Netflix's The Quarterback - Part 1

TC and Kevin Turner play audio and discuss the sports documentary "The Quarterback."

Episode Transcript

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Welcome. It's the dirt bag culturehour TC Fleming Jordan is out in his
place. Kevin Turner, howardy?Kevin kat Turner. Yeah, that was
weird. I love it. Ithink it's funny. I didn't know.

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I mean, it's what all thecoaches and then people called me in like
junior high into high school. Imean, it's about TC. How did
that happen? That was a prcampaign by my mother from birth, okay,
from the beginning. Yeah, yeah, mine was just something some like
what would now be conceived as astranger, some coach that you probably knew

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for a year just called me that. Yeah. You know, my brother's
name is Kyle, and they calledhim Katie. Wow. So I guess
they just didn't want to call peopleby their name, but Katie's fine and
it was easier to remember. Andthen when I worked at the Fan,
they have again named Kevin and hehad already worked there. So I was
like, okay, I guess I'lljust beat Katie from here on out.

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Yeah, so people started calling me. It's weird because it's not like Kevin
demands not being called the It's justyou could just go by Kevin. I
could, especially now that I'm ona station that doesn't have another Kevin.
Yeah, but you have two Kevin's. You know. I knew that Kevin

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before he was a star. Yeah, No, I knew that there was
a connection you him and Cory,right. Yeah, they came from they
they were discovered because they were doinga podcast for their other job or like
you know, at the time,it was just their job newspaper, right,
yeah, the Planos Star Courier.And I was an intern for the

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Plano Star Curier sports section and thesports section was just them, just the
two of them, yea for allvarious star community newspapers in the area are
covering the high school teams there.And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I would go out to like duringcollege, I would go out to,
you know, a football game onFriday, volleyball game on Tuesday,

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up play out East versus Plain OhWest. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah.
Jackson Jeffcoat biggest star at the time. Yes, didn't really turn out for
him. He got drafted there,right, Devin got drafted. I think
it was like the fourth round.But I mean, I'm just telling you
that he Like, I'm sure thatthere's a million guys every year that this
is true of but every single personin the stands assumed that he would be

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the one one. Once it wastime number one pick. He was an
absolute beast and then whenever it's likeyou've got and I mean he was the
recruiting rankings. I don't know wherehe was, but I assumed that he
was very high. And then hegoes to Texas and at that time,
the idea that an edge rusher fromTexas would be a high draft pick that

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was guaranteed, Like who was oka? Unco said his name ouncoh. Yeah,
there was just there was a therewas a string of first round Texas
edge rushers ended with him. Arack Po that's right, that's right,
Washington. Maybe I don't know.I think a rack Post Washington. Yeah,
I get confused. Yeah. See, that's the kind of thing.

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I used to be able to justsay, list off all of Texas starting
defensive ends for the last ten years. You know. Now I just don't
know. Oh. I used tobe able to name almost like the full
first round of like the NFL draft. Oh yeah, as it ripped through
it. And now it is atest And if I ever getting that debate,

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which I'll never see this very oftenor ever, but you're at the
bar and someone says name the twentythirteen NFL draft. Yeah, and now
it would be like, okay,and who was the team? Okay,
and what was the and the firstname starts with it E And it was
Eric Fisher in twenty thirteen. Butafter that trouble number seven nationally wow as

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a recruit Jackson Jeff Code and justdidn't just didn't cut. It didn't work
out. Although it's little unclear,I think that he might be on the
Browns right now. Well, hemight be about to have a breakout tin
sacks season. That's true for theCleveland Fighting Browns. Oh no, nope,
he's with the Blue Bombers currently.Oh that's like Johnny Menzel's on the

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Zappers. Now league, I've heardof the Blue Bombers. Yeah, God
bless him. What league is theBlue Bombers? Is that USFL? No,
it's a CFL, CFL Winnipeg.Yeah. Too many leagues, too
many leagues, too many league.That's my problem with real football. So
why I didn't get into real footballtoo much? There's too many leagues.

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What do you mean? Soccer ChampionsLeague League, Conker calf Gold Cup,
Butt Cup, like I'm it's hard. I know, love thing. Having
more of it is not a badthing unless it's not a good product,
and soccer it's typically a good productfor soccer fans. Yeah, but like

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I don't know anyone who's dying togo see the USFL. It's a great
time for football right now though.This is possibly the best football time of
the year. Yeah, I lovethis time. I mean, this is
very good. And then the actualyou know, yeah, whenever November member
is exceptional. They're just like headlines, this is good. We're back in

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the mix. And Netflix is welcomedin this time by releasing this series The
Quarterback, And I just I couldn'tbe more happy with everything around this,
you know, Like, I justI think the people, the fine people
in Netflix would doing a great jobmaking entertainment for us. I think that
their decision to ye the way thatthey made this series The Quarterback, and

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then their decision release it. Now, this is exactly the time when because
you like a month earlier, I'mlike, it just hurts to think about
how long I'm going to have beforeI have football. I don't want to
think about it. I'm like Jerrynot wanting to talk with the daughter,
you know, like it's it's justtoo painful. You got thirty more one
degree days. Yeah, until wecan get to football. Yeah. Whereas

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now there's men out there practicing football. Oh my gosh, they're trying to
make kicks. Notre Dame football coachMarcus Freeman gave his guys who have Surprised
list yesterday. All right, we'restarting to talk about guys who have surprised.
That's that's why I want to be. By the way, Notre Dame
still is not in a conference,right, that's correct. Meanwhile, are
we really okay? I'm sorry,man, I'm gonna derail everything. No,

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no, no no. Also,I sit around thinking about his conference
realignment. I and me and MikeSiroyo were talking about this the other morning
because Stroy was like, I don'tgive Stroy does not care about college football
at all. That's terrible. AndI'm like he was like asking me because
you know, I guess we're nowworking intimately together now, so it's the
best sport. And I was like, I absolutely care about college football,

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but my teams that I pull forare never really good. And well,
I pull for the University of NorthTexas, so you can soon hear Saturdays
here on ninety seven one the Freak. And then you know, my girlfriend
and a lot of my brothers friendswho went to Texas Tech. Oh so
like and I'm out friends with allmy brothers friends. So I'm a Texas

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Tech fan. Okay by proxy.It's not a great time to do that.
I mean, maybe I love agreat year. I don't know.
I've got no idea what they're workingwith, but boy, that Mike Lee
Tara, we're just never getting backthere. A lot of people think they
might win the Big twelve. Godbless them. Yeah, hopefully they do.
I don't know, whatever are wegonna I hope all the teams do

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good? What's the Pack four?What I was gonna ask you? They're
all just gonna keep the same names. There's gonna be four teams in the
Pack four next year, I meantwelve next year. They're not even I
mean this year us see, Andisn't that the craziest thing. They're like,
it's one hundred percent normal this yearthey're the Big ten. Now,

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no, no, I don't thinkI don't think anything. It's normal this
year and next year it's I think, right, I don't know because I
haven't read much about it. Isee, I'm an NFL guy over college
insanity and and I mean you andme, aren't you know Cowboys fans per
se, although I don't have you, over time, like end up going

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like almost like wanting the Cowboys almostdo good. It's nicer to live in
the city when they're doing well.I actually end up finding myself pulling for
them. Yeah, it's about Imean, like, you know, everyone,
like my wife is a big Cowboysfan. You know, Jake's a
good friend of mine. All ofmy good friends are big Cowboys friends.
So you know, it's fine,so a Packers fan, but I grew

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up my earliest memories. Yeah,no, I mean the Bears things tough
to accept too. I uh,it's just it's so annoying, Like as
someone like it seems like a littlebit of a break that your most hated
rival is from a forgotten city thatabsolutely would not exist in the American memory

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except for the fact they have afootball team. You don't got to worry
about just running into him constantly,except for every single person that doesn't live
in a big city is like,oh, that's my team. You've never
been to Wisconsin, guys, it'snot your to you don't have to just
there's a big team near you closeenough. Yeah, they're pretty obnoxious though.

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Sometimes you have to admit Cowboys fans. Yeah, No, I think
they're just passionate guys that love theirteam. The idea of the Cowboys being
the Lakers in the Yankee is andyou've heard the thing a million times,
but yeah, I don't know,whatever it seems nice, I would say,
Like for me, it's all Ireally ever knew. It's like who
my dad liked them at a timewhen they weren't good. Yeah, like

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in the seventies and eighties, thatwas a pitiful franchise. Yeah, Like
the fact I was born in Chicagohas really got nothing to do with why
I'm a Bearrass fan. It's justyeah, it's as long as your father
isn't just that's a great evidence ofa real dog crap father. Is the
son cheers for different teams than theday. Yeah, right, if you
if you like your dad at all, you're probably just gonna like the teams

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that he likes. They're not gettingmad at him. And I was like
six and being like I'm an Eaglesfan now because that was the name of
my soccer team. Yeah, andif you're stuck with that, that'd be
proof that he had failed. Yeah, but I got admit, like back
to the quarterback, I'll say,like Kirk Cousins being in that that's why
I wanted to do this with youis because we both you know, you

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have our disagreements, but we caneasily agree that a series that is just
giving Kirk Cousins enough rope to hanghimself is the best thing that could possibly
hear. I cannot believe how manypeople's initial takeaway of watching this. A
lot of people like make Kirkusins likea nice guy. I have a better
opinion of him. He seems likea freak. He seems like the exact

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same guy we all think he is. If anything, it's much worse than
I thought. Like it's it's yeah, it's all my worst suspicions confirmed.
He confirmed everything. Yeah, thisguy is a nut. I one of
my good friends we've always joked about. There was some Reddit posts, there
was like it's famous amongst us.I don't know if it penetrated the wider

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world, but it was it wasjust about you know, like you guys
talk about Kirk Cousins like he's notgreat or anything, but like football doesn't
really matter, And the fact ishe is an awesome husband. He's one
of the all time husbands, andthat's what matters to me. That's bigger
than any kind of game. Andso for Netflix to come along and basically

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make a serious length examination of thatReddit post that I've always found so funny
is one of the greatest treats thatI've ever been given. Yes, fantastic
and it's and it was the perfectmix of high end Pat Mahomes yeah,
and then the low end of quarterbackwho quit his team. Yeah, you

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know, they had an appropriate amountof Marcus Mariot. They really didn't emphasize
it much. And that's fine.And I like him, you know,
like I seemed like a nice guyfor sure. I wanted him to do
well. He was cool in collegeand it would be you know, it's
better for the league if there's moregreat dual threat quarterbacks. I hope that,
you know, he goes on tobe great. But yeah, no,

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we didn't need a ton of him. I was, and we didn't
get a ton of him laughing.I mean, Kirk, I was just
waiting on it to get back toKirk because there's so many things. First
of all, I was asking myselflike, is he already taken on a
lot of like CTE. There's nopart where he's out getting the fireplace going

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or the fire pit going. Yeah, And he burns his sweater and then
oh, I burned a hole inmy sweater. He's like, oh my
god, he's a robot. Yeah, no, that's him. Like,
I, you know, I don'tknow. I'm not a therapist. I
can't dive in the wild that's goingon. But yeah, there's just nothing
going on as evidence fired. Thefunniest part of that whole scene to me

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was he was like, oh man, this is my favorite sweater. It
was just a black sweater. Itwas just a solid black sweater. No
one could say this is my favoriteanything. It didn't even have a logo
on it. It was the mostnondescript piece of clothing I've ever seen.
He's like, I guess it's justmy bonfire sweater. Now, what's going

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on, dude? Is four kidsare even kind of looking at him like,
dad, are you okay? Myfavorite drink is water? He also
this is this might be number onefor me. And the whole thing is
he's in his house and he goesso here he's giving litturkos and here's kind
of my trophy room. I forgetwhat he calls. Yeah, I think

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it's trophy. It's just my trophyroom. But you know, the people
designing it wanted me to have itout in front of every one. But
I definitely you know that seems alittle narcissistic to come on in and then
it comes on and shows America.Yeah, like he tells you not like
I don't want this out and thenhe invites the camera in. I was
like, dude, the reach ofpeople who go to your house is way

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less people watching this. Yeah,and the ridiculous that they left a little
spot for the Lombardi Trophy. Iwould find something else to put there,
Kirk, dude. And I thinkhe's like, I guess, you know,
like Trent Dilford has one, youknow, things of this nature.
Yeah, we can play that gamea little bit, but you know,

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but it's a one percent chance.It's so little. The chances of you
winning a Super Bowl as a quarterbackin the chance of Kirk Cousins are essentially
the same there's functionally no difference,very close even in a week NFC.
Yeah yeah. I Also there's afew parts in this thing where he's talking
and you can tell that his coach, Kevin O'Connell is just forced to say

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really nice things about Aim on camera, but man, and the heat of
the moment, Kevin O'Connell is soangry at Kirk Cousins. The entire series,
the all the endgame stuff of Kirkis amazing because there's that, and
then the entire time he's playing thisseason he sounds like the Peter Griffin and
the clip where he's he's fell overand hurt his knee just because apparently he

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hurt his ribs and it's like theBills game, one of the great achievements
in Vikings history, that come backagainst and a truly ferocious Bills team.
There is so much footage of himon the sidelines or him after the throw
going, oh how much she's gettinghit? Is that the offensive line was

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bad? And then you're kind ofnot, I'm right now, crap,
you're fine. You're kind of killinghim right now. You're kind of killing
the offensive line right now, likeon this Netflix series. Yeah, so
I thought that, did you findthat the proper amount of Brittany was in
this? Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure, although you gotta have

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her, she's a part of thestory. Weirdly, I felt like my
opinion that Brittany improved as a resultof the Sea the series. I don't
know how it could have gone down, Yeah, because she seemed uniquely unlikable
and most of the media of herI've consumed, and I would say this

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presented a fuller picture of her,where like it's fine, you know,
interesting, like no Jackson mahomes likethat had to be an editing decision after
the rest, right, gotta beafter the he was, you know,
grew up in the restaurant manager.He has to be fear and not allegedly
there's the video I've seen, Yeah, but like this, he had to

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be thinking this is his big moment. I'm sure that he did as many
interviews as anyone else did. Yeah, and then it's just we can't be
glorifying this guy as he's on trialfor yeah, unless Patrick set up front
before anything like that. But youknow, I think also I never knew
that Brittany was a year older thanPatrick, and when you're in high school,

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you know, the stuff about theirbackground. I didn't know. I
didn't catch on that they were middleschool sweethearts until I saw this. They
were just friends for a while.Patrick's like, I'm in the friend zone.
But she was older than him.Yeah, so he always coveted her.
And whenever you say, they showthe early pictures of them and yeah,

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dude, he looks like a dork. Yeah he like, you know,
now, he's like a attractive dude. That's the best football player on
the planet. But she doesn't knowthat whenever they're in eighth grade or whatever.
And the guy that I'm looking atin the photos, I'm shocked.
She said, yes, dude,I remember just watching Patrick, like,

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uh, I watch Beck with thefan and I did NFL draft stuff like
you know, yeah, well,and I use like the Cowboys tape and
they've got all these cut ups,like he're all those touchdown passes here,
all those interceptions and watch the touchdownpasses because man, those are amazing throws.
And he'd watch the interceptions and go, holy crap, he does not

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see a defense. It turns outlike that was like, I don't know,
I don't know what he's the bestplayer I've ever seen, right,
I mean I think that his commenton that contemporary or now is uh,
like the just he understood he hada high enough football like you that he
knew he needed to make those risks, which like I wouldn't want that,

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like as an evaluation of a quarterback, Like I you're insane if you're going
into the draft and being like,well, I'm sure that these picks,
you know, once, once he'snot playing for TECH, it'll be fine.
Like that's not usually it works ifyou can't see the defense, you
can't see a defense. But sincehe doesn't throw them now, I mean
whatever in the ship in the series, he's got some picks. Yeah,

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but like it's not a big problem, you know, And and it's because
he's in a different situation. Well, all the guys that are good borrow,
Josh Allen whatever, those guys allthrough interceptions. Like everyone's hard on
Dac right now because Zack through fifteenpicks last year and missed five games,
so who knows it could have beentwenty picks. Whatever. It's like,

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no, he needs to throw morethan ten interceptions or whatever, like he
has to. Yeah, and thiswhole idea like talking about having under ten
interceptions. I'm like, why,like you have to And yeah, guy,
he doesn't turn the ball over toomuch. He did last year,
but yeah, his career being ahigh touchdown pass a low interception. Guy,

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I mean kind of an outlier becausea lot of those kids are taking
a lot of chances. So I'dlove to play one clip of Brittany and
then I got some more clips wecan play next. Cool. This is
the playoff game against the Jaguars.They do an amazing job of giving you
a real behind the scenes look athow much pain he was in, how

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determined he was to gut it out. How many people on the sidelines are
like this is crazy, don't doit, and he's like, I gotta
do it. And Brittany the entiretime is sitting up there saying like he's
got to get out of there,like he needs to protect himself, don't
play and like she even tells thatto his dad. At one point she's
like he's got to stop and theDad's like, that's not what we do.
Uh. And so then Brittany,after saying all that, here's her

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summary of her work of sitting ina suite for three hours watching the game
says what we do. We battleand we finished games and we win.
That's all. Yeah, that's congratulationson your achievements, young lady. Here's
some more popcorn. She's given thekids some cotton candy. Yeah, yeah,

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Britnany. Brinnany was tough. Yeah, I do think I agree with
you, though. What is Whenit started, I thought, oh no,
this is gonna be bad, andby the end of it, I
kind of felt the same, LikeI didn't think she didn't bad for herself.
She's not the Julie Cousins crazy.Oh no, no, she's not
picking up terrible T shirts on purposeand terrible suits on person on purpose to

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make her husband look bad. Sowe got a bunch more about that.
We'll do it next. It's ninetyseven one the Freak