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January 24, 2025 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tops makes cards. They have a contract to do cards.
And have you seen like cards being sold for different things, right,
Like you can buy and sell baseball cards. It's because
there's a finite amount of each card and there's a
finite amount of players in each set, and depending on
what the rarity is of a card, it you know

(00:25):
what I mean, are you following along? You know, like
the market, you know, like TOPS controls the market and
these card companies that have the contracts with the leagues.
And I'm talking about baseball here, but I have to, like,
like my brain kind of processes this kind of interestingly

(00:46):
because when there's a one of one, it literally you
just have to get it. And they say it's one
of one, literally because they only made one of them.
And it matters who the player is, and it matters
that it's autographed. It matters that there's a patch that
of a uniform that he wore there, right, and it's

(01:06):
Paul Skans. I mean he plays for the Pirates. He
may not have noticed, but like he had one of
the great rookie seasons of all time and he was
up like he was winning the College World Series with
LSU in the summer of twenty three, and by the
summer of twenty four he was already being considered one
of the best starters in baseball, and he made the
All Star Game. Like you never see a guy get

(01:29):
go from college all the way to the major leagues
that quickly, let alone be a star, so that matters.
Did you know what the pirates offered him? They gave
him quite a bit. I remember you, okay, So so
let me for people who missed it, the offer itself
was crazy. And I have to preface this by saying

(01:54):
again it was an eleven year old kid, okay, which
is perfect, That's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's exactly who should have gotten this, right, Not something
like greasy fifty five year old you know, right, not
No offense to greasy fifty five.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Year olds everywhere and people who just like to collect
baseball cards, whom you also have indirectly insulted. There.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I expect the emails to flood your inbox as we speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there are What did the pirates offer right now? The
pirates offered ay, they wanted the card, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
And.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
The card itself could be worth I mean they set
up to thirteen thousand dollars just like like you hand
it over for thirteen thousand dollars, but it certainly is
worth more when you put it to auction, because somebody's
going to keep that and it's going to get bigger

(02:56):
and bigger and bigger, right Like, over time it becomes
more valuable. Right, So two season tickets behind home played
at P and C Park for like the next thirty years. Okay,
think about that. You get to hang out with Paul
Skin's girlfriend, Livy Dunn, who's a very attractive girl who
is a gymnast for LSU, and in Paul Skin's girlfriend

(03:20):
a host of other unique experiences and items, you're basically
like a lifelong Pirate fan, right, Well, you know where
this eleven year old is from? Los Angeles? Okay, do
you think a eleven year old from Los Angeles is
going to, uh it's going to accept this offer from

(03:41):
the Pittsburgh Pirates. Well, no, he did not. The spoiler alert,
he did not. He did not. Okay, he did not, folks,
because how what an eleven year old from Los Angeles,
California go to any of these Pirates games?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Right yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
And why would he go? Like is he a fan?
Probably not of the Pirates certainly not, and he still
could be high profile. So the Pirates included all that
stuff to signed jerseys from Skins and he would get
to meet Paul Skans as well. Right, And have you
seen Paul Skans anywhere? Have I seen him around lately?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean like just on television and stuff. No, not
not a not a great day personality.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
You know what. That's true. I heard an interview of
his a couple months back. He's just a try guy. Yeah,
he's just he's he's dry and he's got the thin mustache,
which is an interesting What is he doing there?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
How is he getting Livy done? That's I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Not everything makes sense, That's it's Paul Skins is proof.
You want things to make sense, they don't. Sometimes they
just don't.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
You got to keep going. It does make sense though,
when you consider how much money he's gonna make when
he gets that first big contract extension. And if I'm
the Pirates, I'm putting that on the table tomorrow. What's
the likelihood of Paul Skins like wanting to stay with
Pittsburgh if he hits free agency. Give me a break, right,
just go ahead and pay the money. Gone, He's already gone.

(05:14):
Then the baseball media already has this out there. He's
going to be a Yankee or a Dodger because that's
how baseball works. And I love baseball, but it sucks.
It sucks what major League Baseball has become. It sucks
that all the great players go play for just two
or three teams. I hate it. It sucks.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think if he was really committed to being a pirate,
he'd grow out that mustache and he'd curl the edge
of it and maybe he'd get a patch.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't think so. The eleven year old who pulled
this went on social media through another person and shared something,
and he started begging his mom for Christmas for this
two hundred dollars box from tops. Okay, and his mom

(06:03):
and dad bought him the two hundred dollars box of cards.
And you'll never guess what was in there. On the
second pack, I got the Paul Skins redemption card. How
cool is that? This card is a dream come true
for an eleven year old? So you know what they're saying,
get a load of this. Now that he's keeping the card,

(06:26):
he's going to put it through via auction and have
it auctioned off. That's a smart move. It's brand new,
and this kid knows what he's doing. It wasn't like
he like got the card and then like punched a
hole in it to hang it up on above his
bed or anything. Right, It was ten out of ten.
It's brand new, it is in perfect mint condition. It's
one of one. It's the only one of its kind.

(06:48):
Do you sell now or do you wait?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Could it?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
No? No, you sell Nowell now, you sell now. Do
not risk anything. Strike while the iron is hot, Strike
while the iron is hot.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
This is a huge deal, right, and many people certainly
would like to get their hands on this thing. The
record sale for a Scheme's card, which was his twenty
twenty three Bowman Chrome Draft Prospects Autographed Superfractor, which was
another one of one. Guess how much different? One of one?
Guess how much different? One of one? Yep, guess how

(07:22):
much how much was the card? How much was the
card worth? Not the first one? I'm talking about the
first one? Luck in. Okay, again, you've completely usurped the
entire I have no one hundred and twenty three two
hundred twenty dollars. But this is gonna be worth more
for a lot of different reasons, because we know how
good he is now, right, right, you have a season

(07:42):
under his belt. Right. So the card was given to
the family before it went to PSA for authentication. They
gave it back to him and said, this is ten
out of ten. You got the card. Now, this thing
is great. They're going to push this. They think this
is going to be an easy seven figure number. Easy

(08:06):
and Golden Auctions is pleading to have this. And I
don't know if you know who Ken Golden and Golden
Auctions is, but they're really in on the sports memorabilius stuff.
But they are pleading please come over here, and they
would donate the typical percentage fee from the sale to
a charity to aid in the Los Angeles wildfire situation.

(08:27):
How do you say no if you're the kid in
the kid's family. Yeah, that's something else made. I gave
them an off for you couldn't refuse. Yeah, I don't know.
There's all sorts of cool things that kids can do
these days. Let's normalize kids collecting baseball cards again? Can
we do that?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Has that been unnormalized? Has that been a push to
the outskirts of society. I got some baseball cards when
I was growing up. I didn't know what to do
with them. It was just fun. But you know what,
baseball sucks now. We have all these stupid rule changes,
and we have this dumb you know, commissioner who allows
the Dodgers to use all this deferred money to allow
these teams like the Dodgers and Yankees to just stockpile

(09:08):
these talented players, and all these guys want to just
go play for them. The Mets too, a bunch of
free agents going to the Mets. I'm a White Sox fan.
Where's my free agents? Nobody's gonna come play for the
White Sox. This is why I we're fools for caring
about professional sports. Really, we're fools. We're dummies.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Like the fact that we sit here and we're gonna
talk later about the NFC and AFC championship games, and
we like really care, like I really care about what
happens in those games this weekend.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
So you're saying, maybe we should just go watch the Kardashians.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
And no, I'm just saying, maybe we need to go
on a walk and touch some grass. I think, I like, honestly, like,
let's go watch the storm Chasers, you know, like, let's
go with sports. Yeah, but it's it's just, you know,
it's it's innocent. It's small time. Go watch Union Oma
play soccer. But if everyone does that, it's not innocent anymore. No,
I get all this money rolling want I want that.

(09:58):
I want that because then that might actually do some
correction on the big boys up top who continuously spit
in the face of the people who pay their bills. Wow,
you're pricing us out of this stupid crap. They cost
one hundred bucks just to go to a game these days. Yes,
unless you here for the White Sox and you can
get in for free. They pay you to come watch

(10:19):
the games. That's not true. They don't pay anybody. That's
part of the problem. Yeah. Yeah, So if you're a
Dodger fan, or a Yankee fan, or you know, a
fan of any baseball team, that's worth a darn Yeah.
You gotta like sit aside, like a five hundred dollars
you know, price tag for you and your kiddo to
go watch a baseball game. They're pricing everybody out of
this guarde.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We've got this money. What's going on? Nobody's got that money.
I don't know, dude, but but people go. People are there,
and that's why they keep raising the prices. Oh, people
will buy this stupid dumb I hate it. It's three
eighteen more coming up. I promise it'll sound more fun
on news Rady, He'll have it. Take amab emery sunger

(10:58):
do they How did they get such a monopoly on
like merchandising in sports? It's crazy to me, But this
scheme's card apparently may go to auction in their March
premiere auction, and that that means Golden's not gonna get
his hands on it.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
So I don't know. I don't know what this means.
Does this make you all want to get you know,
going by a hobby box?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I used to. I used to have quite the collection,
I mean, not quite that it was decent. I kept
them all a little card carrier and I had football, baseball,
basketball cards.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I did too. But did you ever know if anything
was worth anything? Or do you just like to look
at him?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I just I was like I always liked to
see what was on the back or their stats and
some of this stuff. You know, it was like pretty fascinating, right,
It's just like you know, how do you how do
you find ways to play games with these cards? And
I remember there was this this ninety nine cent Tops

(11:54):
Total I think it was called, and you'd get ten
cards in a pack, and ninety nine cents was nothing.
So my mom when we'd go to the store, my
mom would go and we would my sister and I
would buy like grab new packs of these tops Total
cards and they were probably worth nothing, but they had
like a little baseball game on them where you could
like actually play, you know, pitch the ball and see

(12:16):
what would happen and play a game with the guys
and the guy's stats in like real life would be
you know, kind of the way that you would be
able to play with the card game. Now, I don't
remember it being that good of a game, but you know,
it still was something and it was kind of interesting.
So got Dan on the line, and then Dan wants
to talk about baseball cards here real quick, Dan, welcome in.

(12:38):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I learned a lot about baseball cards back of the
Mimi so used to holl them there's a place in
Kansas City's and Prince Sam on a twenty five thirty.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then they are rapped and so.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
There, yeah, there you are.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
They are wrapped, stacked and held like it's like you're
holding out of Fort Knox. And while I was waiting
for my first load, the guy comes over and give
you a clipboard. I'll bring you a palette, write down
the number off of it, and stay right here. Well,
my add led me off to a dumpster that had
traced twenty five by eight sheets of friends that satoly

(13:26):
weren't dead. And he clearly hauled me lay and told
me never to go there again and stay by my crailer.
So I hauled them out to the Bronx, which is
where they take them from the sheets of paper and
cut them down into the individual cards, put a piece
of gum into them, wrap them up and sell them
to the public. There was lace wrapping, fence, constantine wire

(13:52):
on top. Security guard out there. You're told the park
in this dock, do not leave your trucks. I made
the mistake one time because I had to go to
the bathroom. Asked them if I could use the restroom.
The guard was like, gave me the spinky, walked me
to the bathroom, stood outside the bathroom, waited for me
to come back out, told me to get back in
my truck and never get out of my truck again.

(14:13):
Oh boy, So, like I did not realize that baseball
cards were tracked like you were hauling money from the
Federal Reserve Bank.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Well, you know, it kind of makes sense if there's
the like this much money in just a single card,
right they they top says, there's one card. It's in
impact somewhere. It's kind of like the lottery, you know,
try to find the card and they're saying that they
helped it can fetch a million dollars at auction, like
as soon as he finds it. That that's just insane
to me. So I guess I could believe that. But man,

(14:43):
what they do.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
And my my brother in law was a collector and
he had he has a closet full of boxes of
collector cars. And I told him that I had misprint
sheets in my hand and he goes, you have no
idea what that misprinted sheet was worth. I said, well,
it's a screwed up print of baseball cards. And he goes, no,

(15:04):
he goes that miss France sheet as we're million.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, so so obviously no boy, Yeah, but but obviously
you didn't get a chance to leave with that right.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh no, he yanked that out of my hand, put
it back in the dumpster, like I say, instructed me
to go back to my car and go back to
the doc and do not ever leave there again.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Hey Dan, that's interesting, man, Rob. I appreciate you calling
in with that information. It's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I have a wonderful weekend. Good joke.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah you as well. Is that fascinating? Like the security
that goes into that sort of thing? Gee whiz? And uh?
I just like I wonder you know, if you're the
kid's dad, right or mom, and you paid the three
hundred dollars or whatever it was to get the hobby
box where the card was inside, what's your thoughts on this?

(15:54):
Like how much ownership of this? Like obviously it's your kid,
You're you're able to manage this, But I mean, how
public do you want to be on this? Like like
you know what I mean, Like it's an eleven year old. Yeah,
I would say, you know, there's gonna I mean, the
kid's going to be showing up at the auction, the
kid's going to be on Major League Baseball television.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I mean, the Pirates are going to have him out
for a game for sure. For sure. And I think
you know what, it depends on the kid. If he's
it sounds like he's an avid collector, it does. Yeah,
And so if he's really locked into this, I mean,
here's the thing. It really just depends on the person. Hey,
you know, he could be locked in on this and
he could monetize himself throughout this process of being that person.

(16:35):
You think ESPN would love to interview him. I bet
they would. All kinds of places probably would.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, is this he becomes like a baseball card like
correspondent or something. Does he become a spokesperson for tops? Yep?
I mean, like this is the kind of person you
want to be buying the baseball cards to begin with. Fully,
Manfred and his clowns that are running the show could
actually make baseball fun by allowing all the teams the
same type of resource to have a chance to win

(17:01):
some games.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Maybe baseball is still fun. We're just not as fun anymore. No, No,
the Dodgers aren't fun.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
We should eliminate them and they can play the Yankees
in their own league and everybody else can play for
the real World Series. That's what I say. Okay, stupid
I've never been so apathetic toward baseball as I am
right now because of everything the Dodgers are doing with
their free agency. It's the most ridiculous thing. Can I
ask you a philosophical question? Yeah, so these collectors who

(17:26):
pay more for mistakes, aren't we kind of rewarding failure
with that? Yeah? But that's the thing is the mistakes
are actually even more rare, which you know what I mean.
Like when you find a coin that isn't perfect, it's
the same idea, it's it's rare to find that, and
it becomes a collector's item for people who want that style,
Like like they the mistake makes it more unique, if

(17:48):
that makes sense. Yeah, But I like, I just can't
imagine myself having like a penny you know that spelled
the United States wrong or something. Be like I bought
this for five hundred and twelve thousand dollars and just
showing it to my friends and they look at me
and be like, you're the dumbest part. You know what
we thought you were dumb before, But like what they
would say, it'd be that scene and when Harry and
Lloyd and Dumbadahmer and He's like, I thought you were

(18:10):
so dumb, and then you go and do this, and
then they wouldn't finish it the same way I didn't yourself. No,
I'm I think that Do you buy that for a
five hundred and twelve thousand dollars with the idea that
in a couple of years you might be able to
get seven hundred thousand dollars from it. That's that's the
point of collecting.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
You're gonna find somebody in a couple of years that's
going to pay even more for a penny that that inflates.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Called it inflation, my man.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I know.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
But unless they find more like mistake pennies and like
make like water down the availability of mistake pennies, Yeah,
I mean, that's that's what makes it valuable. Is three
twenty nine. We'll come back up. I want to talk
about movies. I want to talk about what movies got
in Oscar nominations and why it kind of can be
a joke. And we'll tell you that coming up on
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(18:55):
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