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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Matt, I gotta ask from a person who's a lifelong
Husker fan, explain the Colorado thing to me. I know
it was a little different back in the day when
you were in the same conference and all. Can you
tell me how you feel about Colorado before we get
to the don part of this.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, Well, there's two sides to it. There's the rivalry
on the field, and then there's the rivalry of the
fan bases. And I think that what makes a great
rivalry of fan bases can be similarities, but it also
can be differences. I would say, this is just my
humble opinion, but what makes the rivalry of the fan
bases between Iowa and Nebraska how it can be sometimes
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and certainly be vitriolic if you will, is because we
are naturally pretty similar.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Colorado is a different story. I can tell you personally.
I drove in Fort Collins once and had the audacity
to have Nebraska license plates and had multiple people yelling
at me to go back to Nebraska, not even bolder.
So like, it's just it's a state thing, you know,
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Why is that? Why? Why? Though?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Like if you had to guess what their issue is
I mean, do we feel that way here? I mean,
you don't see that many Colorado license plates, I suppose,
but you know, maybe they're they're apprehensive that the Nebraska
panhandles going across the borders, like, hey, get away from
our mountains, go back to your your own landscape. Yeah,
Like like maybe they're just gate keeping the awesome landscapes
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they have or the topography.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Is that what it's about? Or is it deeper than that?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean there's a lot of different ways you could
you could go with that. I mean it's it's geography,
the opposite geography. Think about the Nebraska panhandle there and
that those lands, and then you get into the foothills,
and then you get into the mountains. How different that is?
And then the people who occupy those places think about
how deeply read the panhandle of Nebraska is versus how
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light blue the cities of Colorado are.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Why is that though, because theoretically, and I know there
are mountains. Is it just the government in the way
that they legislate there, because fundamentally you would think that
rule Colorado's would be very similar to Rule Nebraskans. I
don't think. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that.
Is it the legalized marijuana thing?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Like, is that where they're like, hey, our place is
better in your place now, so stay away from us,
even though that wouldn't make sense because when they want
our money. Like, I don't know, I'm confused by all
the hate, but I understand, like you said, the Iowa thing,
Iowa is in Nebraska. I mean, it's far like I
to anyone who doesn't want to hear this, I'm sorry,
but the people are basically the same. I mean, it
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really is the same type of people. People that are
in Omaha are very similar to the people in Des Moines.
The people who are in Wahoo are very similar to
the people that are in De Soto, right, Like, they
are very similar people, and geographically speaking, they are. Maybe
the mountains change things. I don't know. But now you
throwing this Dion thing, and I feel like everybody in
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the country kind of hates Colorado a little bit. Dion
was like that as a player too. We grew up
watching Deon Sanders like he was a polarizing player. You
either loved him because he was on your team, or
you probably hated it. How does that factor into the
way you feel about this team. Now, it's an interesting fit.
Dion is a passionate guy, and his teams play that way.
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I have this weird theory that teams, especially in college,
take on the emotional energy of their coaches. You watch,
you watch the way some of those Nebraska teams played
under Bo Polini. Sometimes they were the most passionate on brand,
just incredibly difficult to beat. Teams had some of the
best defenses I've ever seen with the dominicancezu. But then
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there were other times where it just they seem so
emotionally fragile, you know, And so I wonder if Deon's
teams don't kind of play that way too. They have
this sort of like you know, red hot passion, but
at the same time, like it's it's a little disorganized,
it's a little it's a little egotistical, it's a little
me First, there's a lot of people that say he's
out of there as soon as Shador and Travis Hunter
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and Shiloh, you know, go to the league. I don't
even know if Shiloh's a draftable player at this point,
you know, Like I haven't seen a lot of mock drafts.
I'm sure he'll get taken by somebody. He's pretty good.
But I mean, once the suns are gone, is he
just gonna bolt? Or is he actually invested in this
program like he says he is.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, I again, just my opinion, but Dion Sanders seems
like the type of guy who plans out his plans,
out his story. And I would think that when he
took the Colorado job, he planned it to go well
so that maybe once his sons were done there, he
could pivot naturally to a higher position.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But does he even want to coach?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It took him, you know, a couple of decades almost
of being out of you know, playing football.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
He was a media guy.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He was doing media stuff until he dabbled in coaching
and finally got the college job at Jackson State, probably
mostly because of his name, And then that went so
well and he was able to attract so many good
guys at that level that then he jumped up to
the FBS level, to a power conference in Colorado, and
I think it was a humbling experience in some ways.
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And I think, you know, four and eight last year,
I think we watching them struggle and not really be
that much better than they were before, at least record wise,
be like, well, this guy needs to show that he's
humbled hat in hand. He needs to take a different
approach here, and when he doesn't, he stays true to
who he is. I think that rubs people the wrong way, Like,
hey man, you're acting like you've went to the playoff
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last year. You didn't even make a bowl game, right,
And it's kind of rich coming from a fan base
like ours where we haven't been to a bowl game
longer than any major Power five or Power four now team,
and gosh, it's like seven years now, like seven or
eight years it's been since we've been to a bowl game.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So I don't know, it's something to be said.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I want to explore this though, because it's a different
type of rivalry. It's one that has been not dormant,
but it's been one that's been a little inconsistent since
both Colorado and Nebraska left the Big Twelve. And now, well,
you know, you have this whole thing of the Matt
rule and the Nebraska kind of on the way up
with five star quarterback, and you have the Colorado thing
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with Dion and shador In, Travis Hunter and all of this.
You know, the media that's going to be surrounding that
team all year long. What is the feeling about Colorado?
Why is there a rivalry there beyond just sharing a border,
and what do you think is driving the rivalry in
this current age. You can call in with your thoughts
on it at four oh two five five, eight eleven
(06:28):
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News Radio eleven ten, kfab.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
See.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
We're talking to you about this rivalry between UH Nebraska
and Colorado, not just as football teams or as sporting opponents,
but also why Colorado people seem to hate Nebraskans and
vice versa. And the phone lines are open at four
oh two, five five, eight eleven ten, four eight eleven ten.
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Let's go ahead and jump to Mike. Mike, welcome to
the show today. What's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Hey, thanks for sticking my call. Just a couple quick points.
I would say number one, Nebraska really only has one
rivalry that was organically kind of built on competition, and
that was obviously Oklahoma for many years. The Colorado rivalry
is kind of similar to the Iowa one, only I
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would say people in Iowa are much more civilized. That's
the word I need to look for here than people
in Colorado. So people in Colorado hate Nebraska because of
their glory days. Their last national championship is nineteen ninety
the Nebraska had ninety four, ninety five, ninety seven, came
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close pretty much every other year in between. So Colorado
fans absolutely despised Nebraska fans because their glory days were
over shadow by Nebraska's. And as a quick anecdote, you know,
we attended a game in the nineties, I believe it
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was ninety four, ninety three or ninety four in Boulder
where their student section was throwing bottles in cups of
urine onto Nebraska fans and vandalizing vehicles with you know,
Nebraska play. So there's really it's not really a rivalry.
It's more of a personal dislike between the two populations.
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But you know, I'm not saying Nebraska fans are perfect,
and I really hate that best fans in the country, Moniker,
I can't stand that. But what I can say is
I've been to a lot of college football games. I've
never in my life witnessed the behavior that I saw
in Boulder.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, that certainly would lend itself to why there's such
a vitriol against these two opponents heading into this game. Okay, Mike,
that's good stuff. Thanks for sharing with us today.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Let's get a new on the phone line for two
eight eleven ten. Lou, what do you got on your mind?
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah, this trek actually goes back even before football. Now
this Nebraska were first formed of states that Brattle was
part of the Kansas Nebraska territory. Yeah, and they did
Kansas and then on Nebraska. Those were farm states. As
Spratto not a farm state. It was more mining miners
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would like to go in the party and things like that,
whereas Nebraska were the farmers. They were working people. And yeah,
keep it ron as Mike, I just said. Bill McCartney
came to Colorado as their coach in the late eighties
designated Nebraska as their rival. And out of it was
because in the eighties Nebraska would go out there and
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their fans would fill the stadium. I mean it'd be
eighty ninety percent writ some of those. And the way
the Big Eight was, everybody didn't Nebraska because David with
every year, Well, it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Makes a lot of sense, Lou, I got to be
honest with you. You know, I hadn't really thought necessarily
about the farm aspect versus you know, the mining and
the industries that were in Colorado and how that could
affect it beyond just you know, sharing that border. So
it is pretty interesting how the geography, plus you know,
how the geography was handled by the people that lived there,
made a big difference.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So that's pretty good stuff. I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
There's the show that's on, I think as the History
Channel how the States were formed.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that that topic came up. All right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I got to look back into that because that could
explain some of my questioning here. Okay, I appreciate it. Lou,
thanks for listening to our show. Yeah, no problem. Let's
go to Doug. Doug's on the phone line of four
h two five, five, eight eleven ten. What do you think, Doug.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Hey, As long as it is for football, there never
used to be a rivally till McCarthy got there. When
McCarthy got there, he made the Nebraska game their game
of the year, and he talked oh badly about Nebraska.
That that's when all the crap between the student with
the students started doing all that stuff, and it got
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worse and worse and worse every year. So this should
never happen in any stadium, and people's cars should never
be vandalized. Yeah, so my dad was I'm gonna just
say my dad was a great basketball coach. And I
remember when we went somewhere the fans got into his
mustang and ripped the can't his distributed out as it's
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not called for an a sport, you understand, And that's
if it hadn't been for that coach. Yeah, you can
make that game a great game, but you should treat
me both teams with respect.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Right, Yeah, Doug, I appreciate the call today. That's a
good okay, Yeah, thanks listening to us.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, the institutionalization of a rivalry and just the I
guess leadership of Colorado letting it like evolve into a
legitimate hate filled thing. And it probably didn't help that
Obraska was winning a lot of the time and Nebraska
fans travel very well. Colorado and Colorado State don't have
that kind of rivalry with each other. It's not like
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Iowa and Iowa State, where the two sides look at
each other like hey, you know, we're about the same size,
and we're both in power conferences. We both have the
ability to make it to our conference championship game and
be nationally ranked. Colorado State is a smaller school in
a smaller conference, a smaller institution than Colorado. That's not
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a fair fight. I guess the way that they handled
that back when McCartney got there back in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Was, Hey, those are our guys over there. We're going
to take them down.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And it didn't happen that often, but maybe if it
was a little bit back and forth, that could have
made a difference. Joe's on a phone line four h two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Hey Joe, welcome to the show.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, I would say that Colorado has been trash for
longer than Nebraska has been trash. Back in the teams,
they look at each other and saw win, so they
got this four game series going. Colorado was right, they
have one, Nebraska has not. I don't know about McCartney.
I've only been in Nebraska twenty years, but I just
know that they both saw some easy wins and Colorado
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was right. Nebraska was wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So far, you are one hundred percent correct as far
as that's concerned, since this conference realignment kind of pulled
that rivalry away on an annual basis, At least I
appreciate the thought there, Joe. There's no doubt to me
when we're looking at this from a standpoint of football,
that these are two programs that were once proud. I mean,
Colorado does have you know, they had that national title.
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There's a lot of great moments though. The Hail Mary
the Cordell Stewart threw, I mean that thing was like
seventy five yards in the air.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That's one of my favorite all time highlights.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, you just you're not going to see a
play like that too awful much in the history of
college football. They have the fifth down, which certainly is
something that a lot of people associate with them. They
have a lot of different things, great players. I remember
Rashad Salam who on the Heisman Trophy in ninety four.
I was a whipper snapper then, but I know my history.
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There's a guy who also played running back for my
favorite NFL team, the Chicago Bears. So there's a lot
of different historical moments that their school has had, and
Nebraska has had, but these are dormant powers for the
better part of the last twenty plus years, and Nebraska
has been relevant, you know through the late you know Ots,
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I guess the Dominican su and the you know the
Texas one second and all that bs and all that stuff,
but it really hasn't been since then the Nebraska has
felt like a legitimate team to pay attention to. And
then the great disappointment of the Scott Frost era I
think goes even beyond that is it kind of put
it into even a worse position. However, Deon Sanders, there's
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an excitement in a buzz around that program, even if
they went four and eight last year. There's a buzz
around what Matt rules building at Nebraska near two of
his tenure, trying to figure this whole thing out. And
if you want to call us and be a part
of this conversation, we'd love to chat with you. Call
us now four oh two, five five eight eleven ten
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Speaker 3 (15:11):
Kfab Emery Songa.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
On News Radio eleven ten.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, Fab, there's such a rivalry between Colorado and Nebraska
beyond just sharing up order and we're getting your thoughts
on the phone line at four O two five five,
eight eleven ten, and Frank's there.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
He's on the phone line. Frank, tell me about what
you know.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I played football for Reddy Prouder back in the mid
seventies and the Colorado fans got a bad rap because
of the student section. Back then. The Core has made
something called a three to two beer called Colorado kool Aid,
and you could drink it legally when you're eighteen. So
they didn't call it the Big Eight back then. They
called it Nebraska in the seven doors. But you know what,
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and the course too, eating raw man noodles because he
said that people are as governors on the way back
to the huddle when I got up with him. But
I kee you what the team itself? I mean, it
has pride, you know, But but we don't. Here's a
pretty liberal state. The stadium is named after prison in California,
Folesome Field, and catfeteria is named after a cannibal, Alfred E.
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Packer Memorial Cafeteria. I mean, how liberal can you get?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's it's interesting there, buddy.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I don't know, I don't know, it is definitely an
interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
This is fun. Frank.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I appreciate you for calling us with your story today
and I can't wait to talk.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
To you again soon. Okay, Thanky, let's go to Brad
real quick. Brad, thanks for being on our show today.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I think I agree with the caller that we
just hung up. It's definitely a problem with a few
people give everyone a bad name, and alcohol sales in
the stadium or the kind of the catalyst to the
worst things.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, that's that's possible too, Brad. I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, the new rules with some of the stadiums where
you know, the rowdiness level goes up. Kennick Stadium a
couple of years ago, as I come from Iowa, they
introduced alcohol into Kinnick. That has not happened yet, at
least for the normal fans in Ames, although I know
plenty of people who sneak those bad boys in anyway
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a canon of beer. They'll sneak in to a jacket
or something and then bring it in and enjoy themselves.
Iowa State, I think, is killing themselves by not doing that.
It's all you know, me I'm a capitalist, baby. It's
all about making money. If the money is there to
be made, why are you not trying to make it?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Tom Osborne comes out here and he tells us how
we should.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Be living in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
No disrespect coach, But twenty twenty four, I'm watching Iowa
make all this money on sports gambling. I'm watching Colorado
make all this money on marijuana. You can throw fireworks
in Missouri. There people started to learn their lesson. Maybe
we need to legalize some of this stuff so we
can stimulate our own economy with some of this stuff
that we could bring. And I'm not saying that it's
not degenerative behavior in some way or things that I'm
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even like into doing. I don't gamble that much. I
don't light fireworks ever, I don't. I am not a
member of the Fraternity of the Herb or whatever right
I'm not. But I am a freedom lover. And I
also think that it makes a difference that, you know,
we exist in a way that is one hundred percent capitalist. However,
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when you take that to the extreme, like our friends
to the west apparently have in various points that could
create a little bit of animosity. So I don't say,
don't be like nice and cordial and have that Nebraska
smile on for our friends from Boulder who might be
making the trek this direction for this weekends big game.
But what I will say is those buffs can go
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to heck as far as I'm concerned, because we're living.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
In the Matt Rule. Dylan Ryola Era, Baby go Big Ride.
Am I right?
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Matt, I gotta ask from a person who's a lifelong
Husker fan, explain the Colorado thing to me. I know
it was a little different back in the day when
you were in the same conference and all. Can you
tell me how you feel about Colorado before we get
to the don part of this.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, Well, there's two sides to it. There's the rivalry
on the field, and then there's the rivalry of the
fan bases. And I think that what makes a great
rivalry of fan bases can be similarities, but it also
can be differences. I would say, this is just my
humble opinion, but what makes the rivalry of the fan
bases between Iowa and Nebraska how it can be sometimes
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and certainly be vitriolic if you will, is because we
are naturally pretty similar.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Colorado is a different story. I can tell you personally.
I drove in Fort Collins once and had the audacity
to have Nebraska license plates and had multiple people yelling
at me to go back to Nebraska, not even bolder.
So like, it's just it's a state thing, you know,
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Why is that? Why? Why? Though?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Like if you had to guess what their issue is
I mean, do we feel that way here? I mean,
you don't see that many Colorado license plates, I suppose,
but you know, maybe they're they're apprehensive that the Nebraska
panhandles going across the borders, like, hey, get away from
our mountains, go back to your your own landscape. Yeah,
Like like maybe they're just gate keeping the awesome landscapes
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they have or the topography.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Is that what it's about? Or is it deeper than that?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean there's a lot of different ways you could
you could go with that. I mean it's it's geography,
the opposite geography. Think about the Nebraska panhandle there and
that those lands, and then you get into the foothills,
and then you get into the mountains. How different that is?
And then the people who occupy those places think about
how deeply read the panhandle of Nebraska is versus how
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light blue the cities of Colorado are.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Why is that though, because theoretically, and I know there
are mountains. Is it just the government in the way
that they legislate there, because fundamentally you would think that
rule Colorado's would be very similar to Rule Nebraskans. I
don't think. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that.
Is it the legalized marijuana thing?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Like, is that where they're like, hey, our place is
better in your place now, so stay away from us,
even though that wouldn't make sense because when they want
our money. Like, I don't know, I'm confused by all
the hate, but I understand, like you said, the Iowa thing,
Iowa is in Nebraska. I mean, it's far like I
to anyone who doesn't want to hear this, I'm sorry,
but the people are basically the same. I mean, it
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really is the same type of people. People that are
in Omaha are very similar to the people in Des Moines.
The people who are in Wahoo are very similar to
the people that are in De Soto, right, Like, they
are very similar people, and geographically speaking, they are. Maybe
the mountains change things. I don't know. But now you
throwing this Dion thing, and I feel like everybody in
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the country kind of hates Colorado a little bit. Dion
was like that as a player too. We grew up
watching Deon Sanders like he was a polarizing player. You
either loved him because he was on your team, or
you probably hated it. How does that factor into the
way you feel about this team. Now, it's an interesting fit.
Dion is a passionate guy, and his teams play that way.
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I have this weird theory that teams, especially in college,
take on the emotional energy of their coaches. You watch,
you watch the way some of those Nebraska teams played
under Bo Polini. Sometimes they were the most passionate on brand,
just incredibly difficult to beat. Teams had some of the
best defenses I've ever seen with the dominicancezu. But then
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there were other times where it just they seem so
emotionally fragile, you know, And so I wonder if Deon's
teams don't kind of play that way too. They have
this sort of like you know, red hot passion, but
at the same time, like it's it's a little disorganized,
it's a little it's a little egotistical, it's a little
me First, there's a lot of people that say he's
out of there as soon as Shador and Travis Hunter
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and Shiloh, you know, go to the league. I don't
even know if Shiloh's a draftable player at this point,
you know, Like I haven't seen a lot of mock drafts.
I'm sure he'll get taken by somebody. He's pretty good.
But I mean, once the suns are gone, is he
just gonna bolt? Or is he actually invested in this
program like he says he is.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, I again, just my opinion, but Dion Sanders seems
like the type of guy who plans out his plans,
out his story. And I would think that when he
took the Colorado job, he planned it to go well
so that maybe once his sons were done there, he
could pivot naturally to a higher position.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But does he even want to coach?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It took him, you know, a couple of decades almost
of being out of you know, playing football.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
He was a media guy.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He was doing media stuff until he dabbled in coaching
and finally got the college job at Jackson State, probably
mostly because of his name, And then that went so
well and he was able to attract so many good
guys at that level that then he jumped up to
the FBS level, to a power conference in Colorado, and
I think it was a humbling experience in some ways.
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And I think, you know, four and eight last year,
I think we watching them struggle and not really be
that much better than they were before, at least record wise,
be like, well, this guy needs to show that he's
humbled hat in hand. He needs to take a different
approach here, and when he doesn't, he stays true to
who he is. I think that rubs people the wrong way, Like,
hey man, you're acting like you've went to the playoff
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last year. You didn't even make a bowl game, right,
And it's kind of rich coming from a fan base
like ours where we haven't been to a bowl game
longer than any major Power five or Power four now team,
and gosh, it's like seven years now, like seven or
eight years it's been since we've been to a bowl game.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So I don't know, it's something to be said.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I want to explore this though, because it's a different
type of rivalry. It's one that has been not dormant,
but it's been one that's been a little inconsistent since
both Colorado and Nebraska left the Big Twelve. And now, well,
you know, you have this whole thing of the Matt
rule and the Nebraska kind of on the way up
with five star quarterback, and you have the Colorado thing
(06:07):
with Dion and shador In, Travis Hunter and all of this.
You know, the media that's going to be surrounding that
team all year long. What is the feeling about Colorado?
Why is there a rivalry there beyond just sharing a border,
and what do you think is driving the rivalry in
this current age. You can call in with your thoughts
on it at four oh two five five, eight eleven
(06:28):
ten four roh two five five eight to eleven ten,
News Radio eleven ten, kfab.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
See.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
We're talking to you about this rivalry between UH Nebraska
and Colorado, not just as football teams or as sporting opponents,
but also why Colorado people seem to hate Nebraskans and
vice versa. And the phone lines are open at four
oh two, five five, eight eleven ten, four eight eleven ten.
(07:02):
Let's go ahead and jump to Mike. Mike, welcome to
the show today. What's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Hey, thanks for sticking my call. Just a couple quick points.
I would say number one, Nebraska really only has one
rivalry that was organically kind of built on competition, and
that was obviously Oklahoma for many years. The Colorado rivalry
is kind of similar to the Iowa one, only I
(07:27):
would say people in Iowa are much more civilized. That's
the word I need to look for here than people
in Colorado. So people in Colorado hate Nebraska because of
their glory days. Their last national championship is nineteen ninety
the Nebraska had ninety four, ninety five, ninety seven, came
(07:48):
close pretty much every other year in between. So Colorado
fans absolutely despised Nebraska fans because their glory days were
over shadow by Nebraska's. And as a quick anecdote, you know,
we attended a game in the nineties, I believe it
(08:09):
was ninety four, ninety three or ninety four in Boulder
where their student section was throwing bottles in cups of
urine onto Nebraska fans and vandalizing vehicles with you know,
Nebraska play. So there's really it's not really a rivalry.
It's more of a personal dislike between the two populations.
(08:32):
But you know, I'm not saying Nebraska fans are perfect,
and I really hate that best fans in the country, Moniker,
I can't stand that. But what I can say is
I've been to a lot of college football games. I've
never in my life witnessed the behavior that I saw
in Boulder.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, that certainly would lend itself to why there's such
a vitriol against these two opponents heading into this game. Okay, Mike,
that's good stuff. Thanks for sharing with us today.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Let's get a new on the phone line for two
eight eleven ten. Lou, what do you got on your mind?
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah, this trek actually goes back even before football. Now
this Nebraska were first formed of states that Brattle was
part of the Kansas Nebraska territory. Yeah, and they did
Kansas and then on Nebraska. Those were farm states. As
Spratto not a farm state. It was more mining miners
(09:26):
would like to go in the party and things like that,
whereas Nebraska were the farmers. They were working people. And yeah,
keep it ron as Mike, I just said. Bill McCartney
came to Colorado as their coach in the late eighties
designated Nebraska as their rival. And out of it was
because in the eighties Nebraska would go out there and
(09:49):
their fans would fill the stadium. I mean it'd be
eighty ninety percent writ some of those. And the way
the Big Eight was, everybody didn't Nebraska because David with
every year, Well, it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Makes a lot of sense, Lou, I got to be
honest with you. You know, I hadn't really thought necessarily
about the farm aspect versus you know, the mining and
the industries that were in Colorado and how that could
affect it beyond just you know, sharing that border. So
it is pretty interesting how the geography, plus you know,
how the geography was handled by the people that lived there,
made a big difference.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So that's pretty good stuff. I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
There's the show that's on, I think as the History
Channel how the States were formed.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that that topic came up. All right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I got to look back into that because that could
explain some of my questioning here. Okay, I appreciate it. Lou,
thanks for listening to our show. Yeah, no problem. Let's
go to Doug. Doug's on the phone line of four
h two five, five, eight eleven ten. What do you think, Doug.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Hey, As long as it is for football, there never
used to be a rivally till McCarthy got there. When
McCarthy got there, he made the Nebraska game their game
of the year, and he talked oh badly about Nebraska.
That that's when all the crap between the student with
the students started doing all that stuff, and it got
(11:08):
worse and worse and worse every year. So this should
never happen in any stadium, and people's cars should never
be vandalized. Yeah, so my dad was I'm gonna just
say my dad was a great basketball coach. And I
remember when we went somewhere the fans got into his
mustang and ripped the can't his distributed out as it's
(11:30):
not called for an a sport, you understand, And that's
if it hadn't been for that coach. Yeah, you can
make that game a great game, but you should treat
me both teams with respect.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Right, Yeah, Doug, I appreciate the call today. That's a
good okay, Yeah, thanks listening to us.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, the institutionalization of a rivalry and just the I
guess leadership of Colorado letting it like evolve into a
legitimate hate filled thing. And it probably didn't help that
Obraska was winning a lot of the time and Nebraska
fans travel very well. Colorado and Colorado State don't have
that kind of rivalry with each other. It's not like
(12:08):
Iowa and Iowa State, where the two sides look at
each other like hey, you know, we're about the same size,
and we're both in power conferences. We both have the
ability to make it to our conference championship game and
be nationally ranked. Colorado State is a smaller school in
a smaller conference, a smaller institution than Colorado. That's not
(12:28):
a fair fight. I guess the way that they handled
that back when McCartney got there back in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Was, Hey, those are our guys over there. We're going
to take them down.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And it didn't happen that often, but maybe if it
was a little bit back and forth, that could have
made a difference. Joe's on a phone line four h two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Hey Joe, welcome to the show.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, I would say that Colorado has been trash for
longer than Nebraska has been trash. Back in the teams,
they look at each other and saw win, so they
got this four game series going. Colorado was right, they
have one, Nebraska has not. I don't know about McCartney.
I've only been in Nebraska twenty years, but I just
know that they both saw some easy wins and Colorado
(13:11):
was right. Nebraska was wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So far, you are one hundred percent correct as far
as that's concerned, since this conference realignment kind of pulled
that rivalry away on an annual basis, At least I
appreciate the thought there, Joe. There's no doubt to me
when we're looking at this from a standpoint of football,
that these are two programs that were once proud. I mean,
Colorado does have you know, they had that national title.
(13:35):
There's a lot of great moments though. The Hail Mary
the Cordell Stewart threw, I mean that thing was like
seventy five yards in the air.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That's one of my favorite all time highlights.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, you just you're not going to see a
play like that too awful much in the history of
college football. They have the fifth down, which certainly is
something that a lot of people associate with them. They
have a lot of different things, great players. I remember
Rashad Salam who on the Heisman Trophy in ninety four.
I was a whipper snapper then, but I know my history.
(14:05):
There's a guy who also played running back for my
favorite NFL team, the Chicago Bears. So there's a lot
of different historical moments that their school has had, and
Nebraska has had, but these are dormant powers for the
better part of the last twenty plus years, and Nebraska
has been relevant, you know through the late you know Ots,
(14:28):
I guess the Dominican su and the you know the
Texas one second and all that bs and all that stuff,
but it really hasn't been since then the Nebraska has
felt like a legitimate team to pay attention to. And
then the great disappointment of the Scott Frost era I
think goes even beyond that is it kind of put
it into even a worse position. However, Deon Sanders, there's
(14:50):
an excitement in a buzz around that program, even if
they went four and eight last year. There's a buzz
around what Matt rules building at Nebraska near two of
his tenure, trying to figure this whole thing out. And
if you want to call us and be a part
of this conversation, we'd love to chat with you. Call
us now four oh two, five five eight eleven ten
four oh two, five five eight eleven ten, more of
your calls next on news Radio eleven ten.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Kfab Emery Songa.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
On News Radio eleven ten.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, Fab, there's such a rivalry between Colorado and Nebraska
beyond just sharing up order and we're getting your thoughts
on the phone line at four O two five five,
eight eleven ten, and Frank's there.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
He's on the phone line. Frank, tell me about what
you know.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I played football for Reddy Prouder back in the mid
seventies and the Colorado fans got a bad rap because
of the student section. Back then. The Core has made
something called a three to two beer called Colorado kool Aid,
and you could drink it legally when you're eighteen. So
they didn't call it the Big Eight back then. They
called it Nebraska in the seven doors. But you know what,
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and the course too, eating raw man noodles because he
said that people are as governors on the way back
to the huddle when I got up with him. But
I kee you what the team itself? I mean, it
has pride, you know, But but we don't. Here's a
pretty liberal state. The stadium is named after prison in California,
Folesome Field, and catfeteria is named after a cannibal, Alfred E.
(16:22):
Packer Memorial Cafeteria. I mean, how liberal can you get?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's it's interesting there, buddy.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I don't know, I don't know, it is definitely an
interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
This is fun. Frank.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I appreciate you for calling us with your story today
and I can't wait to talk.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
To you again soon. Okay, Thanky, let's go to Brad
real quick. Brad, thanks for being on our show today.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I think I agree with the caller that we
just hung up. It's definitely a problem with a few
people give everyone a bad name, and alcohol sales in
the stadium or the kind of the catalyst to the
worst things.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, that's that's possible too, Brad. I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, the new rules with some of the stadiums where
you know, the rowdiness level goes up. Kennick Stadium a
couple of years ago, as I come from Iowa, they
introduced alcohol into Kinnick. That has not happened yet, at
least for the normal fans in Ames, although I know
plenty of people who sneak those bad boys in anyway
(17:22):
a canon of beer. They'll sneak in to a jacket
or something and then bring it in and enjoy themselves.
Iowa State, I think, is killing themselves by not doing that.
It's all you know, me I'm a capitalist, baby. It's
all about making money. If the money is there to
be made, why are you not trying to make it?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Tom Osborne comes out here and he tells us how
we should.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Be living in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
No disrespect coach, But twenty twenty four, I'm watching Iowa
make all this money on sports gambling. I'm watching Colorado
make all this money on marijuana. You can throw fireworks
in Missouri. There people started to learn their lesson. Maybe
we need to legalize some of this stuff so we
can stimulate our own economy with some of this stuff
that we could bring. And I'm not saying that it's
not degenerative behavior in some way or things that I'm
(18:04):
even like into doing. I don't gamble that much. I
don't light fireworks ever, I don't. I am not a
member of the Fraternity of the Herb or whatever right
I'm not. But I am a freedom lover. And I
also think that it makes a difference that, you know,
we exist in a way that is one hundred percent capitalist. However,
(18:26):
when you take that to the extreme, like our friends
to the west apparently have in various points that could
create a little bit of animosity. So I don't say,
don't be like nice and cordial and have that Nebraska
smile on for our friends from Boulder who might be
making the trek this direction for this weekends big game.
But what I will say is those buffs can go
(18:48):
to heck as far as I'm concerned, because we're living.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
In the Matt Rule. Dylan Ryola Era, Baby go Big Ride.
Am I right?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I think I'm right If you want to call in
about this rivalry or anything else on your mind. Four
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