Friday, April 4, Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, welcome back to you. I'm about here on Fox
Sports fourteen, Tyche, I'm Steve Rivera. In with me to
day is Jaginsaws now on the phone. Our great guest,
as always, Josh Passner. With a new title, I was
being called the UNLV head basketball coach.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello, gentlemen, everyone's good. You are right about that. I
love that title.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
The UNLV Running Rebels head men's basketball coach.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Let's go. I'm beyond excited.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's been an absolutely awesome opportunity.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Let me just say this.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I love doing television, by the way, and I really
thought I was good at it, and my boss is
like me, yes, I mean, all the different networks like me.
So for me to leave that because I had some
other opportunities throughout the last couple of years, but they
weren't better than the TV opportunity that had. But knowing that,
being at Arizona with Loodolfson all those years, understanding what

(00:55):
the different jobs in the West Coast, I love the
West and to be able to get back with it
that I believe UNLV being a leaping giant and and
it just needs to be rattled and awakened a little bit.
And I believe and hope, and we'll work at it
to believe that we'll have an opportunity to shake the

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trees and try to get it back and wake it up.
And so I'm so excited and honored to be the
coach here. Look, everyone knows that, and and Steve knows
this better than I do, because I wasn't there in
the in the early nineties at Arizona, but there was
a huge rival between coach Tartange and coach Olsen because
both programs, as everyone knows, was the elite programs, was

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the superpowers of the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And so so for my job and.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
My responsibility is to try to get UNLV running basketball back,
and we're working hard at it, and it's been a
joy every which way.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You kind of spoiled my question because what would think.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
He would be happy for me?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I mean, look, it's it's as you guys know, it's
a great opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
He would be really happy for me.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Coach Holsen then, and it just you know, look, I
mean it there's a chance here to do some special things. Obviously,
Las Vegas is right now be kind of the epicenter
of the is the epicenter of the entertainment world. Uh,
it's becoming the epicenter of the sports world.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's it's one of those things where there's so much
going on with greatness here and and people moving in
and so you've got some great opportunities to for connections
with players and and and everything else, and you got
a real you got a real opportunity to do something
special here. And I'm just beyond excited, very grateful for

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this opportunity and just extremely pumped up.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
What's the fan reaction been, Josh, Because this is not
quite like a you of a guy going to a
s U or something like that. But as you said,
it was, it was a huge rivalry and some you know,
those of us who've been around to how remember that
that rivalry? You're an Arizona guy, but you know you're
the un l V coach. What is there been anything

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you know that you've heard have that been mentioned as
people come up and said to you you're an Arizona guy. Man,
I don't know what's it been like so far?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's been great.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
People have been out, absolutely outstanding. I mean, look, they know,
you know, we've a couple of people came.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Up and joked about it.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
About the about the old old time with the rival,
the rival between the two programs. But look, I am
my loyalties to UNLV.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right now, as you though.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I love you of A and had a great you know,
you know how I feel about everyone there at Arizona.
But I'm my loyalties to UNOV and we want to
win every game we play, whether that's against in Arizona
or anybody else.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
And so.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
The people have been outstanding. And look they're they're Jay
and Steed, they're they're hungry, yes, to get un LB
basketball back. It's been you think about it, and I
nineteen ninety they won the national championship. Nineteen ninety one,
they went to the front. They've lost the duke in
the finals. Since then, they've won like two tournament games.
They haven't been to the tournament in twelve, thirteen, fourteen years.

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I mean it's it's I've come at the right time,
if that makes sense, to try to have an opportunity
to try to, as I mentioned, to wake up the
sleeping giant, to rattle the trees a little bit and
get and wake it all up. And I just am
so excited to have that opportunity to try to do that,
and you know, we got a great thing in front
of us to do, and it's not going to be easy.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
You guys know when you're trying to rebuild.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It back, it's it's gonna be a lot of hard
work and a lot of long hours and a lot
of long nights. And that's what I'm doing. You know
what I also in this today. The most amazing stat
probably right now, is I I have been since I've
got named the job, I have literally gone on just
two hours of sleep every night. I mean, I'm not

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sleep thing for me not to crash out and like
hit the floor on as little sleep as I'm going on.
It's like going through hell weekly being a Navy seal,
but they go through there with a little sleep, and
I literally feel like that's what I'm doing it. And
of course I'm not comparing myself to that, but but
but my point is is I've been going on such

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adrenaline and it hasn't stopped. I'm eventually, I think once
we get our roster bill he'll probably stop. But I'm
going on adrenaline and it's been a great thing.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
So we were joking, Jayni, but your good friend, I'm
assuming he's still a great friend. Could have been on
your staff, Mike Bibbi. But now he's got a head
coaching job.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Really happy for Mike.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
He'll do a great job at Sacramento State.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
There.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm happy for him. In fact, he actually reached out
to me.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
We talked.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I mean, of course we talked.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
We talked all the time.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
After he got the head job. He had reached out
to me and we were talking and he had mentioned
he said he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Get a loot Olsen.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I thought this was a great idea. A loot Olsen
h game, like a like a uh uh you know,
kind of like a classic, and and play and play
Sacramento State un L v. Georgia Tech, because that's where
David Stottlemeyer is at and then play and again in Arizona,
had those four teams together and play. I thought it

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was a great idea, I said, Mike, listen, I think
this is This is like literally the day I got
the job, I said, Mike, because all before I got
the job, the entire team was in the portal, so
I had no players. And I walked into I walked
into the into the job, I said, Mike, I have
zero players right now. The last thing I'm thinking about

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is scheduling, I said, I had, I can't. I said,
because if you schedule a game and we showed up tomorrow,
we forced it donating. So I said, follow up with
me in about a month. Let me see if I
can get some players, and then then we can talk
about scheduling.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
That.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I thought that was really cool. That was really cool
about Mike thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's a great idea. They'd be crazy for you one
you played at one you coast a a another uh
you know in Georgia Tech obviously, and then you're playing
maybe who depends how the thing worked out, playing against
a former great friend and Mike Bibbie or you know,
your former school or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I mean, who knows that? It was my idea. Now, look, obviously.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's easier said than done, as you both know in
this a and age to get those things organized just
because of everyone's schedules, got it delined and and and
all that stuff and plus and plus schools you know
now these days and James c you see it now,
people are playing you know, they're they're they're playing games

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with nil benefits. If that may try to generate some money.
So scheduling has changed a little bit, uh more so
than ever before. So that makes it a little bit
different in this climate.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
So let me ask you. You mentioned you have no players,
right so, and that's certainly not the way it used
to be, right him. And yes, some guys would transfer,
but essentially you had a core of players, you know,
pretty much anywhere you went. What's the challenge now? I mean,
how do you do this? Where do you start?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, what I would tell you is you're right. I
mean I start off as zero players.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I was able then to get.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
A couple so but I'm still don't have enough to
even start a game yet. And but here's what I
would tell you, and this is what I've told our staff.
We've got to be paid disciplinations because.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
There's a lot of players.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
In the portal. We've had a lot of people that
want to come to UNLV, but we've got to make
sure they're good enough and they fit with how we
want to play and how I want to play. And
I've got to be the right fit for them, and
they've got to be the right fit for me. And
so as much as money's being thrown around in NIL
and obviously that's critical. Evaluation with your eyes are still

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so important to making sure that you're getting the right
player the right sent and and that's where the evaluation
part of it comes in, which I think, you know,
like a guy like coach Olsen and you both know,
this is probably one of the greatest ever to do
that with with player evaluation. I mean, how many two star,
one star, three star guys that people didn't want he

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took and all of a sudden they're, you know, playing
fourteen years in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, no question, you don't want another thing that you're
talking now. You're a great fit for that place because
you're a visible right, You're you're a visible dude. You're
gonna not You're gonna mingle with the fans. Uh in Vegas?
What better place to do this in Vegas? You you don't.
I think you don't even drink sodas well.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I told somebody, Josh, you know who asked me. I said,
nobody's gonna work harder than you, for sure. And you
you just mentioned that you're sleeping two hours at night.
I said, nobody's gonna work harder.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
He's slept three here.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, what I would tell you is I appreciate that. Guys,
you're right.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm a I believe I'm a good fit because you're right,
they need somebody who's gonna be all in the community,
who's gonna be tons of energy you you know, because
a job like this, guys, it's sort of like you're
in a politician in a way.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
You've got to be out.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And talking to people and you can't be sitting behind
your desk. You've got to have high motor, high energy,
forward thinking, you know. And and I've looked every second of
this journey of being here.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
And the other thing is, as you mentioned, you're right.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't I.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Don't gamble, So I'm not gonna get caught up in
good night life type things. That makes sense. So, because
here's my thing, I'm gonna be working.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like but I'm not leaving that office until things get done.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
True story.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I love my family. I've got my wife and four
little children.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I love them.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
They's nothing more important to me. But when the press
conference was here, I uh, we did the press conference,
and I told that I said, I got to get
them back home because if my family came with me,
because I just had to get them home so I
could start working. And my kids are like, Dad, when
you're coming home me, Misha, And I told this to
my my bosses here. I said, look, I didn't tell
this to my family, and said, I'm not coming home.

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I'm not getting going back home to pick my family
up until I get my roster complete.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know why.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
As much as I love my wife and kids and
there's nothing more important to me, they can't make.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
A jump shot the game. So I gotta get some players.
So it is what it is you guys.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So to answer your question, you are to call up
in your your comment there, Jay, you are darn right
nobody's gonna outwork me.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, no, that's not a surprise. I know you got
to go. Thanks for coming on. Enjoy you all the time.
You know how I feel about you. Maybe we'll see
you in Vegas sometimes. And we gotta get a game.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Hey, get a game? We can you schedule a game
with the chance you get.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I think you should set it up. Listen, start talking
to coach Tommy Lloyd about it.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
See if they want.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
To do a home at home, let's do a home
and home unlv Arizona. We can do something special about it.
Talk to Tommy, get it out there. See if Tommy
is willing to do it, and.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
We'll do a home and home. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Josh, thank you man, Thanks, best of luck.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Thanks guys, you will thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Uh, he's dude, because he's perfect for this job.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
All those things right that that can get you in
trouble in a job like this. But again, more than
the work ethic of this guy from from the time
when he was an assistant. I've told you the story
that you know, he came to speak to a group
that that I was with and he had three phones going,
you know, and and and it was crazy to to

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to see. And he was young at that time, trying
to make his bones and all that kind of stuff.
But uh, you know, he's he's still that guy, energetic,
he's still youthful. He's gonna put every bit of energy
that needs to go into this. Uh. And I think
just U N l V itself is just such a
great fit for him. You know, he's he you know,

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having been at Arizona, he understands this part of the
country and why it's gonna work. So I wish him
a lot of luck, a lot of I think.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think this one might work for him, you know,
building and starting it and working hard to get it done.
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Streamy Live on the iHeart a while. This is Eye
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Jagin Sauace.
I'm almost I'm already tweeting that idea. I just put
on Facebook and just put on Twitter. That's a great idea.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Well, of course, I mean they should play.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Come on, well you mean demon I think the fourteen
for the fourteen Oh okay, and you had it in Vegas.
You don't think that.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Tons of people are people the basketball fans and Tucson
are dying to have a reason to go to Vegas.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
But then you have Damon Bibbie. Josh are you there?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Yeah, oh come on, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's one of those two o'clock dance parties that don't
tell them. We always talked about.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
It, now that that would be something, you know, get
some people working on that. Man.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, let's go. I'm gonna put it into reality year,
put it out there too. That's a fantastic idea. Yeah,
even if it's in Phoenix or somewhere, you know, just
kind of it's got to be in Vegas. No, no,
of course it has to be in Vegas. I'm no
reason to do it anywhere else. Yeah, yeah, it would,
it would sell, would sell.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, you came here, last one out, last one out
of Tucson. Turn out the lights Manu. Yeah, good good.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Joshu is not fantastic.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Again, wish him all the luck. I really hope he's
successful there. I think he's got a chance to be.
I mean, it's been tough over there, right, as he
said that, it's been tough for thirty some years.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
You know, the one thing I wanted to ask him,
I didn't even know how to ask him. We ran
out of time because he had to go to a meeting.
I think that he's going to have to change his
philosophy as a coach. You know, he was, he's he
was in Memphis, did okay there and then eventually was
gonna he jumped ship before they jumped him, but to
Georgia Tech and they let him go. Who's nicer than

(19:52):
Josh Passner?

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Right? That might be a yeah, Well, you know, you
like to think that you know, each time you make
you to a new place, exactly, there's a lot of
lessons behind you. Yes that you know, Okay, this is
what happened at Memphis and what I needed to do better.
Then he goes to Georgia Tech, and this is what
happened to Georgia, And now I've got Georgia technoledge and
Memphis knowledge you put into this job, and that you know,

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a good coach, a smart coach, just a smart person. Well,
we'll take those experiences and make themselves better.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
And for me, you know, I've said this. Nice guys
don't do well in this business, you know, the Steve
Lavins and whatever, because they're good dudes. Yeah, and there's
no better to do than Josh Pastor that he has
to maybe be tougher.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, well, I'm asking, don't you think that, Let's say
a newspaper came along and wanted to hire you, and
you one took a job at the newspaper after all
these years, you'd be a better reporter than you were
at the Tucson Citizen.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I hoped that i'd be a better writer. Yeah, of course,
of course, because you have.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
To be like, Okay, like you know, you and I
we both write for BIZ Tucson. I'm a way better
writer for BIZ Tucson than I ever was for the
Star because because yeah. But but but in terms of
I feel more comfortable doing things that I didn't feel
comfortable doing at the newspapers.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And we're also older and wiser, and.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
If somebody tells us to get the hell out, we'll
just say I'll see you later. But no, but I
feel more confident in my ability to whether bistwos on
or anything any other work that I'm doing. I feel
like I'm a I'm a much better writer because of
the experience that I've had and again been doing it
so long, I feel like I know it pretty well.

(21:31):
And if somebody tells me, hey, you know, maybe you
should have done this with it, you know, I'll do
that because I don't feel like I have to know everything. Sure,
I don't feel like I know everything about writing.

Speaker 14 (21:43):
Well, no, and that's how you get better or poltically.
And that's what I would hope Josh would take it as. Okay,
I did these things at Georgia Tech. Some of it
didn't work. Here's what didn't work, So here's what I
got to do different. Well, here's your here's your catch too. Okay,
So we knew him here forever. Right now, he goes
to Memphis. I think he was like thirty at the most.
Man if that, and then he went to Georgia Tech

(22:04):
Q pretty damn good programs at the time. Right, Well,
he's kind of going reverse where Vegas would have been
his first time.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Right, do well and then go Emphis and then yeah,
but you know, he's got his work.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
He's got to work his way back.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Up, yeah, or or be happy there or look.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I love Josh. But maybe those jobs were a little
over his head. Maybe Memphis was as young as he
was at Memphis. Maybe it was a little too much.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Jay Jakins, as you're going to be the new head
coach at UNLV, I'm never leaving again. Yeah, you know,
because it could be a destination that you just say,
we've seen the possibility right thirty years ago. Right now,
this program getting going bunkers. You know, there's nil money.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, there's a yeah, Yeah, I mean I believe that that.
You know, with all the things that go on in
in in Vegas, UNLV, basketball is still a thing over there.
You know, they want it to be good, and there's
a lot of money, right, and there's a lot of
money there that will, I think will support them to

(23:04):
be good if the right coach comes along and starts
doing all the right things.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, Vegas was n I L before n I L.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
The fixer right, what was his name? Yeah, that the
that the players got caught in the hot tub with.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, but IL before Yeah, I think there's a lot
of perfect spot for him. Uh. It works his butt off.
He's not one of those Vegas dudes anyway, you know. Yeah,
but he'll mingle, he'll he'll be very.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Much to find himself. He'll find himself a nice place
to live away from the away from all the hoop
love Vegas, and he'll do the.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Work pent House it.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
No, he's gonna go live in He'll live in Henderson
or something like that, right, one of those great neighborhoods
over there. Man, you've probably I know you've been on
through there. There's some really places to live over there.
Sure he'll be fine. Yeah, there's one thing you don't have.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
To worry about with Josh. Do worry about Josh?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Right, right, he'll be great. I guess I didn't realize
he had four kids. Yeah, I think three girls and
the boy. I think that's what it is. Yeah, So
we've been going back and forth time. I'm glad he
came on the show. Uh, We've got to get my
baby on too. He was on Rome a couple of
days ago, and we've had him on a number of times.
I had him recently. Did were you on the show
with him? And you know I joke with him, you

(24:20):
never said two words in school? I was kids stopping
from talking yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
But look at the look at the tree of loot, Damon.
Well let's start the top ker Uh Bruce Fraser, Yeah,
well you have Damon, Now you have Josh Miles was
a coach. Uh Barton, not bart but god he was

(24:48):
with the Cleveland Indians or Cleveland Cavaliers. Uh it'll come
to me. Uh, there's another guy there. He was an
assistant coach. Sean's his grandson, mister Brazi. Yeah, yeah, God,
there's a few, a few. Because if you know, another
thing that I thought possible, and maybe you agree with

(25:08):
me or not agree with me. One of the things
that I'm kind of touting his horn. He let them
talk to talk to us the media right right? Randomly?
How they become these people on the radio or TV
coaching growing up?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
No, one hundred percent. I mean, you know, there's a
there's a lot. There's a lot to that because if
you learn, you know, dealing with idiots like us, right
and and dealing with us in a way that it's professionals,
gives you a lot of confidence in yourself to be
able to go and handle a job, interview, handle you know,
go recruit a kid growing up right, go speak in

(25:44):
front of a group of people, go do some fundraising,
whatever it is you're doing. You you get confidence in
doing that by dealing with people like us.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I try not to cuss that.
And that's a great point in today's world. They don't
let they don't let them. Were afraid that they're going
to say something. Guess what. These kids are pretty smart.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah. Well, and again getting to those two kids that
I that I dealt with at the at the at
the regional uh uh Clayton and I can't I can't
remember the old guy's name, but the Texas Tech kid,
they were really good at, you know, at handling you know,
that that whole press conference thing. So you know, because

(26:25):
because they've been doing them, you know, all year long.
But you know there's some kids that, you know, we
would talk to everybody, right, but nowadays there's only about
three or four guys on a team that do any media, right,
So these other kids that are there, they really don't
experience that. And you know that there's some kids that

(26:47):
probably you know, I don't know how to handle it.
These guys do, the guys that you know, the the
Cooper flags and those guys they know how to do
that because they get to do it all the time.
But the guys that don't, they come out of there
and they haven't had that experience.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Missed one. Craig McMillan.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Craig McMillan, Yeah, all kinds of guys, just a lot
of guys out there that that have been you know.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I totally agree with it. These guys come to college
to learn one to grow up. I think that's what
you used it for, you to grow on And why
why coddle them and keep them behind the scenes when
you can freely tell You can tell her stories better
than anybody. And guess what, n I l p people
who know who their story is.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
They give to them and you find out a lot
about the questions, right, You find out about whether or
not this is a ja Morant in the making versus
a perfect the making.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
So let me let me ask you this. So did
you see the press conference at the loss with Duke
with UA's press conference?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
I missed it, well, So it was great.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
It was great because Henry, who didn't say a lot
of things, he stepped up and said, you gotta love
Caleb love and it was It was a great post
post game because it was not about the game. It
was about the love for club and Henry's you got
to get this guy. He's one of the best people
I've ever met. We would have never heard that otherwise.

(28:06):
And thank god he said it, because you wouldn't you know,
he wouldn't say it otherwise.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
No, it makes it. It makes total sense, Steve. And that's
and that's the thing that I've really, you know, been
unhappy with in terms of the way, you know, media
has been shut down from you know, from dealing with
with with athletes, you know, especially in football, where you've
got a hundred guys that that you know that you
maybe want to talk to, and you only ever talked
to four or five.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So so I'm getting more people, so have you. The
guy couldn't remember, right because he was with Cleven that
was with the Orlando Magic. And then we have another
one the right in our backyard, Regie geary Ye, who
was a coach at a SMU I think it was,
and then in Japan, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
So he's still playing. I'm taking no look at it.
That's sorry, mixed up all the time.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
That's about ten of them and all pretty successful. Jason
Terry Jason Terry's with salt Lake. Yeah. Yeah, that's a
bunch of them.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And all during that time, all during that lout time.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
That stretch, yeah, that stretch you guys. No, yeah, you know, look,
and I felt, I always felt that Lute tried to
let these guys experience, right, you know. Well, and it
was during it was during its time that a lot
of stuff got started getting shut down. Yeah, but you know,

(29:41):
just the again, I've talked about the access that we
had with those guys, and and you just felt like
they were growing up right in front of your eyes
while you were talking to them.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
And the thing is for the readers, the readers and
the fans, they got to know who they were. And
especially nowadays, don't you need them the fans to know
who they are because guess what you're asking the fans
buy tickets and give money.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Right right, exactly exactly. But you know, I mean I
think back to the interview that he did with Anthony
Cook his senior year, you know, and here's a kid,
you know, he's probably twenty one, maybe twenty two years
old at the time, and we had a conversation about how,
you know, how his dad had had committed suicide. And
I'm like, here's a kid that probably doesn't want to
talk about that. But he felt confident enough in himself

(30:29):
to be able to have that conversation with a reporter.
And it's like, you know, you felt like he was
growing up right there and having that conversation and therapeuty. Yeah,
and it's very therapeutic for them. You know, we had
to the last time I was on we had Tom
Tolbert on it, you know, the time I went to Tom
Tolbert's dorm and and spent those spent three hours with
him and and you know, heard his stories. And now

(30:52):
at that time, he didn't fess up to the story
about him not being home when Tartanian came looking for him.
But you know, we talked a little bit about the
whole thing, that midnight loot and how all that some
of that happened. He didn't go into as much detail.
But you know, these guys were having conversations, very personal conversations. Well,
and it was good for them to have those conversations
because now they were they were more comfortable in their

(31:15):
own skin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, the mint that lout didn't start till after him
because Matt Autik was the secondary, right, right, and then
it kind of circled back.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
But I mean he took you know, he did talk
about how, you know, Lute stole them from from under
Titanian and so you know, there's a lot of there's
a lot of benefit to that and and you feel
like instead of shielding them from it, they should let
him experience that stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
No question. I've said this for a while now. It's
been us since Greg came on of Greg Burned, it's
twenty tenish. Yeah, it's been fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, you know, you know back then the one year
it was it was my chance to do this. But
the one year that I worked as a media guy
for the Sugar Skulls and we had a session which
which you should right, we had which there was a
session where I talked to them about dealing with the media,
and you know, and I may I ask for a
show of hands, how many guys you know don't like

(32:08):
the media or don't trust the media, And the bunch
of hands went up. It's okay, let me just tell
you this. Don't look at this as something crappy that
you've got to do. It's a one it's a part
of the job. But two, it'll do you some good
to talk about yourself to people. You know, you be
old pr person, right, you know, talk about and let

(32:28):
people know who you are. You know why because when
you got the helmet on, you want those people to
have a sense of who you are, so that the
root for you. And I felt like, you know, I
saw some heads nodding, and I remember that, and I
feel like I was trying to take the edge off
of or the lack of trust that so many of
these guys have have in dealing with the media. And

(32:49):
there were still some struggles throughout the.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Year, you know, because they probably weren't used to because
they weren't used.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
To those you know one guy, you know, one guy
that the media wanted to talk to after a practice
and he took off out of back gate because he
didn't want to do it. You know what I did.
I took I took the camera with me and we
went over to the locker room and made him do
the interview and was and then he was fine, Yeah,
he did the interviews, that's what happens, you know. But
he had this image and and and he was scared

(33:16):
of personal image, right, and he was scared of it
until I got him to feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And you're talking about a twenty three year old kidder
than that.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I'd been a couple of years in the league.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, so by then, yeah, yeah, And it doesn't hurt
because of the people in the community or other places
see you as a professional. Right, and then you were
able to speak, uh, like what I can't do now
speak your own story?

Speaker 15 (33:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
And look, are there some degenerates in the media who
are in it for the wrong reason, who are in
it looking to make somebody look bad? Of course, it
are like any other profession. There's bad people and you
have to be you have to be aware, you have
to you know. But for the most part they're not.
There's a few, but there's but they're not, and you know,
and you find you can find that out pretty early

(34:02):
on when you deal with somebody.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, okay, let's take a break down and take some
calls on the other side.

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Speaker 1 (41:01):
They welcome back to Whying the Ball here Buck Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're jiggens as I think
we started. We're gonna call it to Play in the
Ball Classic. Yeah, I mean yeah, I think it's a
great I think it's Bibby's a smart dude.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Yeah, it's smart.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Some of the people are saying it's got to be
played a mchail.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
No, no, no, no, no. We gotta go to Vegas for this.
We gotta go to Vegas for this. There's a two
day tournament up there, you know. Yeah, just let ended
to have to be winners and just match two teams.
You know, know who you're gonna play when you get
up there. It doesn't matter. Just four teams, all of
them theirs on the connections. I'll play a couple of
games up there. Yeah, you know, two games in two days.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's perfect, perfect, even if it's not the first sue second,
I gotta steal live for two more years. But you're
over unders fifty fifty, who knows, but that's I think
it's a great idea. People are Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Mean, let's go all over it, man, get all over that.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Cool, cool, cool Joseph Blair. We forgot it.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, for good another coach. Joseph Blair's in the he's
in the where is right now?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Vipers? They just real grand Vipers. She just lost in
the playoffs, so they're everywhere everywhere? What else? What is
going on?

Speaker 4 (42:18):
We haven't talked about Idea? Oh yes, the house age.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
It's well, you were on the show last time two
three weeks ago, right, we talked about that and you
were pretty vocal of what texts going on, and you
were pretty strong that things needed to change.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, and I get you know, disgruntle players leave and
they say bad things and stuff like that. We know
ideas a tough, a tough coach, and is she too
tough for some of these players? Maybe? But then we say,
you know what what's tough and what's abusive? Right right?
And we don't you know, I mean, we know the difference,

(42:53):
but you know, when she's coaching, which is it?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, let's take this call real quick. You're on the
aar andine on the ball? Who's this?

Speaker 27 (43:01):
This is Vic?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Steve Jay?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
What's up?

Speaker 22 (43:05):
Hey?

Speaker 27 (43:05):
So I just had a real call real quick. Changed
courses and uh and uh, Steve bragged on my little
cousin last night taking that three point challenge down. But I, uh, listen, dude,
as Prescott and she won. She won the three point
the college three point shooting challenge at the at the

(43:28):
final four.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, because when you test me on.

Speaker 27 (43:31):
Sewing women and I don't know if you remember, Jay,
but I told you and when we were at the casino,
the best three point shooter resides at Grand Canyon University,
And you kind of looked at me like what but
he about uh that.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
That I always see that. That what I get that
look every day when I see But.

Speaker 27 (43:53):
I'm proud that she's a she's a young Chicana. I
don't know if you guys know this, but you actually
did an article a few years back on the family.
Her great randpa started Sunshine Litle League, got a Santa
Riita Park. He was president there for many years and
his name is actually on the skate park there. And

(44:14):
her great grandma played for the Flirts, which is a
famous travel fastitch team back in the fifties, and her
aunt Norma is one of the first Title nine scholarship
players played softball at Arizona well, so just kind of
had to throw that in there. But we're super.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Proud of her.

Speaker 27 (44:35):
Ooh career. She's she set the WHAP record for three
pointers this year, beating Becky Hammond. She has like two
or three three point records at un l V and
she played and obviously one four league title that modern day.
So she's quite a career.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
So she chance on the WNBA.

Speaker 27 (44:57):
No, she's actually at the Women's Final four this weekend.
She flew in this morning and she's gonna try out
for European Scout.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Oh okay, okay, you know the good thing that on
this call, I know you got to leave now from
the call, there was no Dodger talk.

Speaker 27 (45:13):
Where we're losing.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I know I'm watching, I got it on in here.

Speaker 27 (45:17):
Okay, but but it's okay, but I just got my
uh my gold embroidered hat. Jay.

Speaker 13 (45:23):
You love it, man?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw those very cool.
Yeah cool, awesome. Okay, thanks, But there's.

Speaker 27 (45:31):
Gonna be planning during the during the summer, Steve, so
watch out.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Okay. Thanks a bunch of man, Okay, thanks guys, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Thanks a bunch of What were we talking about before?

Speaker 4 (45:40):
We're starting to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I saw something today. I
don't know if it was just coincidence whatever. They said
that the top twelve arrogant coaches in women's basketball. So
I clicked on it. It was it was fairly recent.
Uh you think she was on that list?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah? Where probably eight or ten.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Twelve, twelve one. I was surprised that they had her
on the list and she was twelve. Who would be
number one or two? Kim Malkee she was number two.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Close's don Don Staley three, okay, Gene Arima first of
course the winners. Yeah right, yeah, and you got.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
You kind of have to have that if you're gonna
be very It was all the blue blood women's basketball.
And you're thinking, again to my point with with with Josh,
you have to have some of that in you to
be a good coach.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
It's a confidence, almost an arrogance, you know, to take
all the bullets but still say, you know, I'm doing
this because this is what I think is the best
way for to do this.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
And let me say this. Adia we know is a
tough person, a demanding person, but she's also good at
what she does. She didn't get to the final four
and national championship by accident. I think maybe that's kind
of an excuse now to say this is who I am.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
But but well, she had the players at that time,
and and and you know what what it seems like,
you know, I was having this conversation I think in
San Francisco. We were talking about about a DA and
what's going on with the program, and I said, you know,
you know, when you when you think about that that
team that couple of years, you know, when they won

(47:21):
the women's in I T and they went to the
Found four and all that stuff. The common denominator, it
wasn't about I guess Aaron McDonald was an incredible player,
but to me, it was a it was a Sam Thomas.
You need you need that right, and that she was
somebody that probably had the locker room. And there's been

(47:42):
nobody like that since Sam Thomas.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
They haven't been here long enough to Yeah, but I
mean still, you know, a freshman or a sophomore or whatever,
whether it's a portal person or whatever, comes in and
and they've just not had anybody who can pull the
entire team together present.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Look, and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say a very
sexist thing right now. Okay, I've coached boys and I've
coached girls. Girls are are harder to coach because of
the drama that comes with coaching girls. I mean guys, Yeah,
they have their personality issues and stuff like that. They
get on the field and they want to win. Yeah. Girls,

(48:23):
My experience was that you had to deal with those
issues even during games. Yea and so, and then it's
right and then and then all around it. So it's
a it's a you have to have somebody who can
within the team, not a coach, a player who can
make sure that that stuff doesn't interfere.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yes, well, I don't know if you heard the interview
I had with Todd Holdhouse, right, he very successful in
his position in FEMA. He says he became a better
coach than even now. And you saw what he did.
His daughter was on the team, and she's a teenager
and she I learned a lot from her. How do
we know how to deal with what was going on?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
You know? It was two to you know, actually three
of us, three male coaches coaching the Saint Gregor softball team.
And there were some issues, Sure, there were some issues.
My daughter was in the middle of some of those issues. Yeah,
you know she was, she was the pitcher on the team,
and you just you just not, you know, after having
coach baseball, you know, for four years and then and

(49:26):
I'm dealing with this, I'm like, can we just play? Yeah,
can we just talk? Get along?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Here's the other throw throw that with the women's thing
and adia situation. Uh, and then her her salary, I
mean at a school that needs to save as much
as possible right right to see how that?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, it is a dilemma because now she's out there recruiting.
Is she going to sign a contract here, you know,
sometime soon or is she not? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
And you know how those in a nimbo coaches live,
and it's very difficult to It is really hard to.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Recruit because players want to know even though a player
comes here knowing I might leave after my first year,
they want to know if they want to know, if
you know a coach might be here.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Jason Gardner another one.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
God, dang, Steve, We're not We're not. We're not even close, man.
We're just missing this.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
You know, the aaron I on the ball.

Speaker 27 (50:21):
Who's this.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Treasure?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
How you guys doing Richard? What's going on how about them? Lobos?

Speaker 15 (50:26):
Good here, Jay on the radio with you, Hey, you guys.
I just Oklahoma had an assistant basketball manager position open,
and I guess after quite a lengthy interview process and struggles,
they named Trey Young as our assistant manager now the
basketball team.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yes, the GM.

Speaker 15 (50:44):
Sput and I think his application came with a million
dollar check. So we thought it was rather interesting the
way to pursue that job.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Wait wait, wait, he's paying them or they're paying him.

Speaker 15 (50:57):
No, no, he donated.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I think of me into the progress.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
That's okay, it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
I don't have that anyway.

Speaker 15 (51:08):
Uh, you know, that's what that's what's going on part
of in IL.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Did me ask you, Richard, because of the OU rivalry
with Texas, do you think there's a lot of envy
now from Oklahoma to Texas because Texas has kind of
took a major step up in every sport?

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Well, you do.

Speaker 15 (51:28):
I don't know if you saw the analysis by somebody
I forgot Sports Illustrated or something who reviewed these schedules
that were handed out by the SEC to Oklahoma and Texas,
and their schedule was a lot easier than powers. Plus,
we didn't come in with a real very good team.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Did.

Speaker 15 (51:43):
We were pretty unstable this year. I mean so uh.
And but who didn't think that was going to happen
by going to the SEC? I mean, only an idiot
would think that they were going to hand Oklahoma good schedule.
I mean that was just stupid.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
You know.

Speaker 15 (51:56):
I mean, you went the SEC. We sold out our
power and our tradition. Yeah, you know, and who gives
a damn? I don't care anything about SEC football. You know,
you guys are you're Pack twelve fans. You know you
love the Pac twelve. It's gone. You probably have to
struggle to be interested in the Big twelve. But anyway,
it is what it is, as they say, and the

(52:16):
world's changed.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So yeah, and you're talking and you're talking to football
specific great, yes, right there, I was.

Speaker 15 (52:24):
Yeah, okay, uh, basketball Oklahoma. It appears I think that
thunder Oklahoo City thunder is drained off the Sooner crowd
of attendance.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
That makes interesting because the Norman.

Speaker 15 (52:36):
Is thirty miles down the highway, thirty five miles away,
And why wouldn't you just go downtown and see the thunder?
You know, it's great and if you can get a
very a ticket at a very reasonable price.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Yeah. I asked case you how the how that's gone
for them over the years with the Phoenix Suns and.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, and there's only a certain amount of dollars, right yeah, thanks, Yeah,
thanks bench. Hey did you hear you vote?

Speaker 15 (52:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Interesting? You know, it's gonna be interesting to see how
long Oklahoma kind of stays middling with all this stuff
in the SEC. They're middle of the road football team.
We're middle of the road basketball team. And they're not
used to that, right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
They just got hammerd by LSU and baseball yesterday. Yeah,
and softball, I'm sure it's pretty good still. Yeah, and
they're battling with Texas and that will.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Be interesting too to see if if Oklahoma softball continues
to be what Oklahoma's softwa has been now that they're
in the SEC. We've got he said, you know, you
got LC, you got Alabama, you got all these teams
down there that are really damn good.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
No, sometimes you get what you wish for, and you say,
what the hell do you?

Speaker 10 (53:37):
Well?

Speaker 4 (53:37):
They well, they well they were sort of the a
s U. What a s U was when Arizona went
to the pack to the Pac ten. Is that you know,
Oklahoma went kicking and screaming. Yeah, uh you know, and
and and now they're paying sort of paying that price.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
One less call for abut a minute. You're on the
air nine the ball. Who's this.

Speaker 27 (53:56):
Hey, yeah, don't forget about Chris Rogers.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I think he coaches that soon.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
No, this is my highway guy. So let me saying.
There's there's a there's a Coleman. So Coleman he played.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
For Yes, yes, he's an assistant somewhere.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
He's a Foothills foot Hills. I think your data story
there are Coleman's. That's Foothills. So there's you know, that's
the first one I remember from from Sean Miller's time.
I'm sure there could be another. And he had a
few gas that are coming through the ranks too, so
many for loot because they're now in their forties and
fifties coaching. Are we good with time? Got about a minute?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:36):
I got a minute?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Okay, No, thanks for coming back, Jay, No.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
This is fun, that's all. It's fine. I look forward
to it every Friday. Man.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I had to go find you my road next.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Keep me coming back, Yes, you know, as long as
as long as you need me, Steve.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I'm here for every Friday. Maybe I'm here for you Friday,
I'm here. We'll know more about the final four. So week,
the bet is you got Duke, I got.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Florida, and where do we bet? We're going.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Win or I gotta win right by the way. No, no,
we're good with that.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I'm good. We'll do it before a Friday. A Friday,
I got Florida in my bracket.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, sorry, No, it's we won't know until we know.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
I don't want to agree with the Dodgers fan anyways.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Smart, smart, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I have a total appreciation with that, because I don't
want a giant fan to agree with me.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
What do you What do you have when you have
two grudge people in a room? You have that? Okay,
thanks guys, Hey, great week of shows. Thank you very much.
We'll talk to you guys Monday.