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April 15, 2025 55 mins

*Disclaimer: Please note this episode contains discussions of suicide.

After enduring a terrible accident that left her in a coma, recording artist Chesca says it was music that saved her life. On this episode of Hasta Abajo, the Puerto Rican singer joins hosts Cami and Meli in Miami for an intimate interview covering everything from the fight to make a name for herself in a male-led industry to how a Natti Natasha record (No lo Trates) was taken from her by Daddy Yankee and the time John Travolta ruined her entrance at a performance.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Milli and I are in the same city. We are
in the three or five miam three of five, and
you know what that means.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
A very special guest.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Everybody, This is Asao Baby.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Camilla Ramon and amlis Artis and every week we'll
cover everything, embracing every part of our identity as professional athletes.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Female Latina entrepreneurs and pereo enthusiast Baby two Amias and
achieve made, trying our best and keeping it light, all
while empowering you to know your worth and.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Fight for what's yours.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's right, Cami, and remember no pasada. It's not that deep,
So grab your cafecito and join us. This is asta,
all right. One of the first things Cami and I
love to do before we get into a very serious
conversation over the phone is talk a little bit of
cheez over some caversito.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I love a good cheese man.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
So since you love a good cheese, mate, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Got to catch up first. And today we have a
very special guest. My girl Cesca is in the studio
with us. Esca and I have been trying to connect
for so long. I was like in Puerto Rico for
La Sance and she was.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Like, come to the pool, Come to the pool, and
I was like, I'm with my.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Husband and we got I was like, I can't make
it today. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
And then she was like in las Ange was like impossible. No,
she was warmed there and I was like come.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
She's like Perla and I was like, am I good
to go? She was like yeah, come through and I
was like, okay, you so you are from Puerto Rico
but you live in Miami. For people that have never
been to Puerto Rico before, like, how would you describe
la Isla The vibe?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Oh my god, it is the I mean, it's amazing.
I'm Puerto Rican, so I have to say it's amazing,
but it is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
You automatically feel like you're in this Korebean island and
you just want to go and get up in your go.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
To the beach.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Even for people that live in Puerto Rico, it feels
like a vacation every day. It's funny, like that's why
for me it's hard to live there because I feel
like I don't I can't get to focus because I'm
like with my family or I'm on the beach or
I'm like, I mean, I work a lot because I
feel like people's motivation to win in Puerto Rico so strong. Okay, okay, okay,

(02:34):
so I'll.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Get I just gotta say something. I'm married to a
Puerto Rican. Okay, Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, I've learned a few words.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Here and there. The funniest one was he was teaching
me and dumb at first, I couldn't say it. It took
me like an hour because I was like, he's He's
like no, So I think I got it. I mean,
we've been married for a few years now, we say

(03:07):
it three times.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's like three times is like that.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I haven't got to that level yet. I'm on, just don't.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Pronounce the ours.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Day on my I didn't do.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's maybe maybe like a six out of turn if we're.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Being okay, try all of a sudden we become a
fully American.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I just want to formally apologize my perto Ricans.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Me too, and to my husband from like, okay, but
before we get started, because I really want to learn
more about you, I have to say one thing. So
I'm married to a Puerto Rican. I love him obviously
with all my heart. Fans yes, love Puerto Rico. Puerto
Rico Mocha's basis. I love the culture very similar to
Columbia as well. When everything, but we have gotten in

(04:04):
a few arguments. Yeah, because we were talking about this
before CESCA that you know, there's like there's something different
and like the the maybe aggressiveness, I don't know if
that's the word, but for instance communications communication. So in
Colombia we're very we're very k Amorosos like Miamor and

(04:25):
so we were just recently dating, maybe maybe a year
in and so I go, Christian, I call him from
across the house like Gristia and he goes y, yes, yes,
just like that, and I go, I know if you
have seen my eyes? I was like, okay, it's just

(04:51):
And when he said that, I go, what did you say?
How did you respond to me? And he was like
confused and he came he was like what He was
like what did I do?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And I was like this day like you said, okay,
like that, he goes a normal and I was like
is it? And now that I understand it's like normal, hmas.
He hasn't responded to me. Okay. He does it as
a joke now because you know, I can't stand it.
I can't stand it.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I know, come on fire and water mano intenso.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Super intensa he said, toxic implement and PTO like that

(06:04):
kind of stuff we don't mean we don't mean it and.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Wrong perto and okay, wait shot.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
After talking about you know, communication styles, next time you
have to say, I feel like when you talk to
me that way.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
So that's how you talk to Christian from now.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Believe we're strong, like ten years strong. So now we
now we now, we know, now we.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Know, Yeah, Columbia, Yeah, more more.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
Well no Andlama and so if we're supreme emerging.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And then maging and he goes your Nacio Puerto Rico
Nacio and Majinga.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, Mosica and connect Lamsica Porto Rico, Rasano, Condo in
Perto Rican and.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah Loge Mirage, Lamb Croquetto and.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Urbano on their ground press and and lunder ground rap
super popular Paro.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I say, and you like you've been making music since
you were a little girl. Your family is a family
of musicians, so you've been in the industry for a while.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Papa Como professional com hobby me Mamma cantar.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
From Pero.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
S Sun you through me professional okayntment simper.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
An accident okay, but all the of course from CEO MEFI. Okay,

(09:33):
why this is happening to me? Like bro like accident okay.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Like world relaxed. Okay, we need to rewind, we need
to crazy crazy hear these details before we hear about
I want to know about the accident and all these
challenges in your career right when you grew up, and
music obviously was a huge influence in your life. What
kind of music were you listening to back then?

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Honestly, I only listened to Michael Jackson, like he was
my idol.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Like I would come home.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
And I would just only sit there for hours, like
dancing and singing. You can check my Instagram.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
My first very first post is.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Me at like four years old, three years old, like
singing and dancing to my like he was literally my idol,
like I wanted to be him, Like I wanted to
be like him Jackson, and like I grew up with
like influences of American music, so like Checker, like I
love I love spending hours in a rehearsal studio, eround

(10:33):
show load performance I give it my all, Like I
feel like, Okay, this is like a Beyonce moment right now,
Like I'm.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh your honey, Like if you're gonna do it, you
gotta do it right.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
And I feel like that's one of the few things
can the like m fall performance like and sayano.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I mean, I mean yeah, Like I dance like semi
professionally for a while lemro.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
You know, like the.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Choreography sometimes more than the music, which.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I like, bitch you and I wish everybody was like that.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Super peal just have no merita, come oky, go that
extra mile no.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Vile performance. Look at bro performance coay, just just stand
there and like just engage with the audience. I also
do that Bro.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Not he gave like he didn't care, like he continued
to be himself.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
One of the best performers to people are.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Like really focused on that wait a minute, come again.
But it's part of my essence.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
And I look.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Resilience like resiliency like mental strength, fortitude, and like, let's
you are a woman in a male dominated space. You're
a woman in the space which is so challenging, but
that resilience was built off of your story and your
grind can you take us back a little bit and
talk about how that has shaped you?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
But I started seeing like like I said, when I
was three, I knew I had a passion for music,
like one hundred percent in a flash back old school
likes the no doubt like he The band was called Flashback,
the the the Rolling Stones like stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
So I.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Infermalu and I was like Joe Jackson moment, Okay, was
like okay, come on, like no, I can tell you
I was ten years old and he was singing at
a bar, okay, So like you knowinco and I was like,
you know Lett.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Pertorio and.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Puerto Rico solament But I continue to be the lead
singopay with such a success because I and and mind
you like I didn't have that the accident yet, right,
So like the accident happened.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
At eleven years old, I started singing a tent shows me.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
O.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
But he was like, oh my god, ye come the
next pop star JA.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
They wanted to develop my career. Wow, So they signed
me on Latino. Yeah, come, developed me for a few years.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
But two weeks later, sing Mado comes in. We're celebrating
this deal and my my my dad is a water
ski instructor, and.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Like like this is happening amazing, and the yeah yoke.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I woke up in the hospital like months later because
I went into a coma. But then when I woke up,
I had lost seventy percent of my hairs. I had
a severe fracture that put me in that coma, and
then I had a huge skin graft in my leg
and said, yeah, come okay, my dreams were shattered, like
that's it, no more, like I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Bque. No, you could have he could have.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
They could have put it back, but my dad didn't
have like ice in the boat at that time. You
can save it, like you have to keep it like cold.
So now I was unfortunate that I couldn't. We couldn't
save that skin that you lived.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean, yes, I'm like I'm worried about the hair.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
I mean I have really long hair, like I had
a lot of hair thing, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
And but.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Over I went through seventeen reconstructive surgeries throughout ten years,
my girl, So it wasn't like it wasn't like I
went up.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yo the very difficult time in my life.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
But I was so young that I mean, I didn't
know that I was going to face bullying and face
all those challenges.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
As a girl.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
What are the names of the bullies again, they've been
all in my d M.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Well, they've all said sorry, and I think that's cool
that they've acknowledged that they hurt me so much, but
not I think that's what made me a very strong woman, like.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Like it forced me to become a woman like as
a teenager.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Honestly, and by the way, I mean, it's still hard
for me, like a big break, and I'm like, there
has to be something bigger than myself, Like why is
it so hard for me? Like why is it still
like a struggle? I'm gonna be like, Oh, that's that's why.

(17:09):
So I'm just gonna keep going.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
When when you went through those years of challenges after
the accident, how did you use music as a way
to get you through those moments?

Speaker 5 (17:22):
It saved my life literally because my my treatments were
so noticeable. It weren't treatments that they had to put
tissue expanders in my head. Yes, honestly, it was a
little weird as a as a child, so it was

(17:44):
it was really bad for me. P cat In the
hat that big because the only thing that fit me
because I had a ball and it looked like a tumor.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Character like people. That was like my singing characters.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
So people didn't judge me, they didn't care. I was
just singing and that was the only place I felt safe.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, Okay, they.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Don't know I'm bald. You know, nobody's gonna make run
of me. They're just gonna think I'm like great balls
of Fire songs like so that, and I.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Think that translated to my adulthood, like of becoming a
character even right now, like Chesca is a character, Francesca
is just a different person. Yeah, I dragged it since
I was a kid. So I love like having costumes

(18:44):
and just looking like an anime character.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Like I like started like, you know, looking into you,
like learning about you, and we started to get in
contact and talking to each other on social media. But
I was like, damn, like I love the hair, like
and I love that it's like a part of your image,
Like it's so dope, Like the looks are giving, so
you should feel really great about that.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
And there's a lot of work though.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I have to say, like putting the wigs on and
all that like for shows, it's so much work, Like
I can't wait for the time that I'm like a
free and I'm just showing all my scars.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
But I'm here for that.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Honestly, the wig is my superpower, like I swears like
my cape, Like the wig is my cape, and I
don't know it gives me that like confidence boosts.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
They're both both the superpower.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
The scars, even like showing the scars is a sign
of power, is a sign of resilience, a sign of
great like even when it comes to athletes, right, like
we have some I have a huge scar in the
back of my my foot from tearing my achilles, like
people have scars acl tears left and right. Those are
scars of resilience, the challenges we're gone through and survived them. Yeah, exactly, Man,

(19:50):
if you ever did that, I want to.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Eventually because I feel like I did.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Try did a test on a song that was called right,
and it was a song I did with flow and
and the song talks about that how people just judge
you without knowing who you are, knowing what you've been through,
Like people were like, I don't care what you've been through,

(20:14):
Like I've been through ship too, like I don't care
you have scars, and I.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Feel like I don't want to talk.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
I don't want to like express so much about it
just yet because I don't want people to think I
want you to petty me, like I don't want said
the right time, but because it's gonna actually inspire you
because they've already got inspired by music or by whatever.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Else, right, and your music is fire, so that that's
gonna happen and it's gonna happen soon.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
And also like.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
You are, like you have those those memories, you have
that like that to hold on to when you're feeling like,
you know, as a as a woman in the space,
like how can you think of a like a specific
like maybe a recent interaction or something where like somebody
has doubted the ship out of you and you were
like fuck this, like like this person doesn't know ship,

(21:08):
Like I know what I'm made of, which I'm sure
is something that happens to you every day, especially like
as a.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Woman and knowing that I had been through so much,
I'd be like, who are you to tell me what
I can and cannot do?

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, I go through that every single day, whether it's
somebody tell me, oh, don't be like that or be
like this, or like, don't do that or don't do this.
I'm like, why why people want to change who I am?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Isn't that the whole point of being an artist? Just
be yourself?

Speaker 5 (21:35):
But the character fact aspect aspect of Chesca is part
of the artistry of what I do. Like that that
is part of what makes me happy about doing what
I do. Like it's me and that that's what brings
me joy. Opinion, Like everybody has an opinion on how

(21:57):
the music needs to sound, how I need to sound,
how IM like and and it's fine because you want
to accept criticism and you want to accept what other
people want to listen to.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
But contract so.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
You're like atla, you know, like at the end of
the day, like you're doing this for the people, but
you got to do it for yourself.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Don being Yeah, I heard you talking about like how
you've made you made a shift in your career, so
maybe you were when you started. I think you had
mentioned you may read were making things that were a
little bit more pop and then you were like that
doesn't feel like me. Can you talk to me a
little bit about like that self discovery and the shift I.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Think when I lived in La down maybe America and Issala,
but just to work on my craft, like work on
the dance skills and like how to be an artist.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Right, the dance classes in LA are insane, yes, So
I went through all of that, like have like twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Thousand A counts you have to memorize in thirty minutes.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Oh my god, fifty minutes sometimes it's crazy. So I
moved to a LA for that, like because I wanted
to be a pro at what I did. And you know,
when I got signed, they had a very specific vision
of what they wanted to do with me, and I
had already build a great relationship with people and I
was already writing music with them, and like, let's put

(23:20):
this as your first big single, you know you single, Joe.
I'm my god, like, that's it's a great song. But honestly,
today that's the that's my best performing song. I don't
know is authentic to me and authentic to what I
am as a person.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
So that I need.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Con I'm a team player, so I'm like, I believe,
I trust what you're saying. I don't know time persandol
because they can see through the lines like.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
How did how did that relationship with Pitotball start from
the very beginning, like that's opportunity. I had a girl.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
I had a girlfriend of mine that was a really
close friend of his.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yo, yo.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
On stage, I'm gonna kill it.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, you know, sometimes people are all over protective of
her friendships and relationships.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
So she never never notduced me to him.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
So and it happens to come in like he happened
to just walk in into the room, and that's how
everything is kind of started.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Like I just started talking to him and like like oh, yo,
whatever whatever.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
So I wrote that song, I wrote that record. My
voice is still on that record.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
That record was my record. So they took the record
from me.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
So people felt so bad because it was it was
actually Daddy Yankee's decision. Like Daddy Yankee was like, oh,
you know, Nati Supek, so I get.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
A business whire. I was a business move and I
get I mean it's fine. I mean it's all good.
At the end of the day. That opened a lot
of other doors, right, So that he was like, yo,
I got I gotta make this right.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
So I.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Show and on TV show, TV show. So I did
the the little liked scoring the IT soundtrack, so I
was the theme of that song and then he and
then he really liked what I did. And then I
came back again to do another song that he invited
me on Little John.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Madio. But the reason why he gave me that.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Record is because he was like, yo, come meet with me,
because he wanted to get to know me, like he
didn't know me.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
So he thought that was a sign from God.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Like he was like, he was like.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Something. So he's like, hold that thought, Salemanta hell Speaker,
and I.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Heard that song, but honestly, it is like that does
feel like a sign.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
It does.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Honestly, when you said that was the first thing I
thought about and that and that came out, and that
came out before Teko Baby, that all of this happened
before Tako Baby, and I was already like and then
my very first TV performance was with that song.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
John Grease on the performance, okay, so that was my
very first thing.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
That was the first time I wore a wig, okay,
like on a performance in my makeup is like didn't
know how to put it, so we glued like it
was my first like televised like premier.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Like the make up people are like working so last
minute that they're like finished, and then you have to
go on stage, so you don't have time to like
fix anything.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
And we were so new to that, Like I don't know,
We're just like trying to do our best. But what's
funny is like John Travolta like actually messed up my entrance.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
This was my first like ever televised program. I was
so ready and I came out like super strong, but.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
And you can tell enough performance that I was so pissed,
like you can actually tell, like if you watch the performance,
I'm like like in my face, but I was like
also so excited that that was happening that I was like, Yo,
it's fine, it's fucking John travol Like it's all good.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I was just about to say, perspective, John just messed
up my right, like.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
It's all good. And then I like did a kick
and almost kicked little John's face. And it's also on camera,
like what's with the Johns?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Literally you have to stay away for the jobs.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
But but honestly, I think that was the very first
big break that I had and that's what initiated everything else.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
So like I think after that everything just started the lining.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
But but then, like I said, for for about two
and a half years, I just found myself in a
pandemic and also releasing music that wasn't really representing.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Who I was, right, like.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Right, good, yes, but it's all good. I mean, I
think things happen when they need to happen. People are
gonna be like, oh dang, Like it's super different.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
How would you describe it?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's hip hop.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
I mean it's it's more like rap, but it's more
about it's it's really authentic, like who I am as
a person, like my vibe.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
In your face and someone that's been through a lot
of ship you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
I can't be a girly girl like talking about love
when I almost try to kill myself when I was fourteen, Like,
it's just not gonna happen. Like I'm versatile and my
dad taught me how to sing and all kinds of genres,
but look, I want to express and it's someone that

(29:39):
wants to inspire the females to just continue to follow
their dreams.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm always like, I teach a glass. I'm like so
aggressive too. I'm like and I'm like, so you not say.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
That is amazing. Wow, I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna
put TM Camilla like.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's great though, So.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Get with the program.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Okay, we're gonna go to break, but I'm gonna add
by the way, so we're gonna break, but we're gonna
leave this with I want to know when you went
through those moments almost killing yourself, Like what what? What
got you through those? I want to know, But we're
gonna go to break.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Welcome back to the show, everybody. I'm Ramon and this
is Melis Artis and we have chesca here.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Melia, I have a have a deep question because you
mentioned something that you know, you went through so much
and at fourteen you almost wanted to kill yourself, which
for me, that just hit my heart, especially at such
a young age. What did you do in those moments?
Did you seek therapy? Did you talk to your parents?
Obviously music has been a huge influence, especially at that
time of your life, but how did you get through?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Honestly? I never we never seek for professional help, which
is weird.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Yeah, Like my mom was kind of like super against
like pills and anything that could like put me to sleep,
I guess in her own words, but The story behind
that was that I had finally fallen in love with somebody, right,
Like I was like, this is my first love ever,
and that person broke my heart. But then the way
that it happened, it was so cool because like he

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came with his friend in my house. The friend took
my hat off. He both started laughing at me, and
the guy was like, do you think I could ever
with a bold chick?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Hell no, This guy that I was like already seen
right like and in the most innocent way.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
It was like, I mean I was twelve, like thirteen,
like fourteen actually, but trauma, but I was like a
little like and I was like so in love with
this guy, and that happened and it changed me right,
So that day I was like.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Nobody loves me.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
I'm a freak of nature, Like I'm a monster, Like
I'm disgusting, and like I took a glass of full
like clorox, and like I passed out, like passed out,
like passed out like so they had to take me
to the hospital like extract all that stuff from me.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
So it was like really rough, like it was really
really bad. And that's the moment my parents decided to.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Take me out of school, so I was taking home
school because like that was I mean, honestly, it was
really rough. Yeah, and I never actually told anybody that
it was because of the guy. This is the first time,
but but that was the reason. It wasn't just because
I was getting bullied or anything. But that was like
the hardest and most cruel bullied.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I've ever had.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
So yeah, so not but but then but then after that,
I obviously, like my mom is super religious, so we
like prayed a lot, and we were like trying to
find ways.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
And my dad gave me a lot of more gigs.
So I was just like trying to like perform and
like just continue to live life. I mean, it was real.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
It was just really really hard because the treatments were
like painful and they were very noticeable, and they were
treatments that lasted a year. It's not a treatment that
lasts like three weeks or like two months.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It was a year treatment.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
And then I had to have that ball in there
for a whole year. And that happened five times.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
So I want to take the story and use it
as a tool of inspiration for me. So girls and
women and whoever in general that are going through tough times, right,
like when you look at your fourteen year old self
and you want to say, Lil Francesca, like this is
what I want to tell you?

Speaker 6 (33:32):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
What do you want to tell her?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
It's so hard because as an adult, like you can
make those choices better in life, but as a kid
is so hard. I mean, obviously I would tell that
girl like screw that guy, like you're better than that, right,
But that's something I know now because I'm a woman,
I'm an adult. But for me, I we never know
what a kid is going through. We cannot put them

(33:57):
ourselves in their shoes because like I was there and
people would tell me this like adults like they're in
their late twenties, thirties, like my my my cousins, my uncles,
like they were adults like and they would be like, no,
you're going to be amaze, like mindienda.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
They were very positive, and I didn't. I didn't listen.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
So when someone is going through that type of trauma
like it's and I could, I get it, like I
understand because I lived it. It's so hard to inspire.
So but I did feel inspiration by artists. I did
feel inspiration like continue to watch like artists like I
don't know. Music for me was my way out, but
if it I think you have to look for something

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that inspires you outside of like your circle, because the
last people you want to hear when you're going through it,
it's like your closest people like you just won't listen.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
But if you find that inspiration.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Outside of your circle, like that's what's going to help
you get out of whatever situation you're in, which is
what helped me yea.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And I mean my mom will always tell me.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
She's like she like ask me, like how I'm doing
about such and so you're like going with I'd be like, oh, yeah,
I talked to this person and they told me this,
and then she'll be like, that's literally what I told you.
I'm like, why don't you pay attention to me? Like
same thing, Like even like with your partner, sometimes it's
hard for you to listen to the people that are
closest to you because you have to one figure things
out on your own and you just like block out

(35:18):
like what they're saying to you, but finding other ways
of like escape, Like for you, it was music for me,
it's running for many I assume it's probably something relating
to sport too, which I honestly want to talk to
you about because I think that one of the things
that you mentioned to me when we were chatting is

(35:39):
like you were like.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh, I don't train, Oh I don't. I don't train.
I don't train. I'm like, but you dance number one.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
I used to train twice a day like I used to,
Like I was obsessed with the gym. I would go
in the mornings and I would go out night before
bed like I would. I literally had like an a
pack and like I don't know, like I don't know
why I was so obsessed, but I think it was
because I was under so much pressure in LA that
I felt like everybody else was so much better than me,

(36:05):
because like you have to understand, like in LA, you
have people from all over the world going there, like
with so much talent. And I wanted to sing in
English at first, like I wanted to be in A.
I wanted to be a pop star like A like
a hip hop star R and B. But I literally
sounded like crazy. I sounded so bad and that's real,
Like it wasn't authentic to me, it did. I didn't

(36:27):
sound good but I was like, no, I really want
to do this, so I would just run and I
was like I need to at least have the best body,
like right, So but then I got so over it,
like I was like, I don't want to work out
anymore because I did it for so long. I work
out and stuff, but not as excessive as as I
used to.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
But I love that well because number one, you were
lying to me because she says she doesn't train it,
she just admitted to work.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's double days, double day. Really don't I really know?

Speaker 5 (36:51):
But that was like years ago, but now you now
I don't like water ski that I haven't done it
in years, and I wanted to do it because I'm like,
people just don't really care about like music videos, right,
Like they don't care that I'm like doing all these
videos singing my songs. It's it's real, right, people people

(37:14):
see it so much that they want to see something different.
I'm like, what can I do to like capture people's
attention that they don't know about me.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm gonna go barefooting. I haven't done this in six years.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
I haven't barefoot in six years because I don't like
water skiing anymore and then my dad fights with me
all the time.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
It's like come water skiing.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
I want Dad.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I don't like it, but but I'll go.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
But I want to go for this video because I
know people are going to be like what And he's like,
are you short that I'm dad?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Listen Mallie the way that I like, I was like
scrolling your page and she had this is very recent
that she posted this.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But I saw that video and I was like, this
bitch is a liar. The amount of core strength it
takes for her to do that, And she's.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Like, you would kill it. Actually, I challenge you.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well, honestly, I've wanted when I was a little bit
like when I say I used to it.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Like like you would you're an athlete, like you both
could kill it?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, better than me.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
But the quad work, the quadras I have got.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
I'm still starting from that day. I swear because I don't.
I don't. I don't know. My body is just weird,
like I don't know, I don't gain weight.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
But I also don't eat a lot. Like the people
close to me are always like saying like why don't
you eat? Like why don't you eat me? And I'm
like I don't need me, Like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
I lost a lot of like the things that I
enjoyed before, Like I don't know, I'm living a different path.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I don't I think too when one of the things
about like working on exercise, like my story, it's like
it's pretty evident that when you do things for a
reason that's like negative because you're in a bad headspace
and you're like, I need to change myself to be
accepted by the people in LA.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Like for me, for example, in La.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Well, I lived in LA for like four and a
half years, and I was teaching cycling classes and I
wouldn't play because I sin and I yeah, and I
wouldn't speak like in Spanglish anything because I was like
these people like they don't care, they don't want to
listen to this music. But there's like such a huge
like Latino demographic in LA. And it's funny that it
happened to both of us the same way that we
were both like, oh, you're just trying to fit in,

(39:10):
just like trying to do the thing. And then when
I started like embracing my culture and where I'm from
and where I grew up, which is like Miami and
like bringing that to my classes. That's when things started
like really taking off from me, which is very similar
to like the way that your creativity was able to
like take off and you feel more aligned with with
the work that you're doing.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Definitely, No, definitely, Oh my god, La was tough for me.
It was fun, yeah, but it was tough.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Huge city. It's like New York. I just moved to
Miami from New York. I mean New York's a very
tough city. Kammy lives there.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
I would literally die in one of your classes. Like
I would die.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
You gotta take it.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
It wouldn't last five minutes.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
You would be a would like witch if you can
eat a water ski how you did?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
But that's a six second thing like that.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I went to Commy's live class and I took my mom.
My mom was so pumped, remember.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
How Yeah, I want to challenge myself to you gotta
go clases.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
You have to go. It's so much fun, honestly, Like
sometimes you don't even think about how much you're actually
working your body because you're just so into her performance
and like the way she entertains while like sweating and moving.
I'm like, how like I'm a former pro right, and
I'm like, how is she talking while breathing heavily? Well
on my heart's like this.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
A lot of people ask me, how can you sing
and dance? Yeah, I feel like you have that too.
It's still hard. It's still hard.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Dance is a little different because dances, like, well, first singing,
so you have to have so much vocal control, yes,
and then dancing you're like thrusting your everything.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
And just because like at least you're in a rhythm, right,
But with dance singing you're like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Really hard, and then you like go down to the floor,
stand up, and then you have to hit a no.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Well?

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I I have a backup, like I have my TV
tracks where I have like, uh, like a support voice.
So whenver I have like really hard choreography that's like
literally impossible to like fully do it live.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I have a little track below fact that helps me.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Also, like using a little bit of auto tune in
your microphone, which everybody does it, even are around it
does it and it's okay, like you don't have to
lie about it, like we all do it and it's fine. Yeah,
what it does is like if I'm like doing that,
and I'm like, right, like it helps with picking up
the note, right, So like that, And I had never
used autotune before and then I used it for the
first time in Mexico and I'm like, why I've.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Never been using this? This is magic? Really yeah, because
I was like, I I think that show. I did
the whole show live and I was so shocked. I
was like, how did I do this?

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Wow? I was also training for a whole month in
Mexico and.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
It's more than facing. So I was already like I'm ready, like.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, and people like I guess now people will talk
about it more. But if like people sing, then you
know that even if you if you don't sound good
and you use autotune, like you're still not gonna sound good,
Like oh no, an.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Tone only fixed the notes, it doesn't change your tone.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Right, And I was with I was actually I did
a class with t Pain, who's like the autotne Oh yeah, connoisseur.
I'm obsessed with him. That's a sidebar, like there's so
much to talk about there. But I was.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
I was like on the bike and he was like performing.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
And I was like, I remember when people gave him
so much shit about using autotune and then like I
feel like he had to like flex and like do
the tiny desk for people to finally.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Believe that he could like sing sing.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
But I'm like, the man's voice is immaculate and also
like it sounds good, Like.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
He's actually an amazing vocalist, Like.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, incredible and really dope human and I.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Think like only him and Bad Jail are the only
two artists that utilizes the autotune and like minus like ten,
oh really yeah, which changes?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
That does change your tone? Like right, it does change it.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Yeah, Like but it's it's still an an aesthetic and
I think it's cool.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So you talked a little bit about your team on stage,
but what is your team in general of your day
to day look Like.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Honestly, my team is pretty small, like you know, coming
from a big label like full of like thirty people
under your belt and everybody having their different opinions.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
I'm actually excited that I'm independent now.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
And I can like pick and choose who I want
in my team, like because I like to be aligned
right with my vision and in the label, it was
it was a lot of like mixed feelings and like, oh,
like they didn't like it, and like, I don't know,
it was just a lot of bump heads because their
vision was so different than mine. But to me, being
independent right now is cool because I get to be
myself one hundred percent released to music that I want

(43:34):
to release, and then once I get this hype.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Again like hopefully see there, then I'll have more. Then
you know, then a label will come in and be
like what do you want to do?

Speaker 5 (43:46):
Right, because I've proven myself to them.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I also like I've I've like for more and more
artists that I speak to, Like, a lot of people
do prefer to be independent too nowadays.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Yeah, and you have so many ways of like sharing
your music and your craft that like you don't really
need the millions of dollars behind you.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
You don't really need like the big labels, Like yeah, obviously.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
When you're in a level of maluma, Carol G, you
probably do because the money is ridiculous that you spend
so like you wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Be able to do it on your own.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
But so I think, like so to that if you
could predict the future, where will Chesca be in five
years from now?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (44:26):
I hope I can just be headlining my own shows
like that.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
To me, that's my.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Dream to have their front row.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Please.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
That's that's always been my dream to be able to
have like my own shows and people coming just for me.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Because like right now, which I'm.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Still grateful, like I do a lot of festivals or
shows like I'm opening for like so and so, so
it never feels like, Okay, this is my people, this.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Is my army.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
But I was also never able to build my army
because when we would promote all these records, we would
just like in little different areas, right, so, like we
never kind of captured one strong army. So that's what
I've been trying to do lately, Like, Okay, let me
focus in my people, maybe a little bit of Mexico
and maybe a little bit of Columbia. Right So, I
don't want to spread out too much of this because

(45:12):
it's hard. It's hard, so and I'm working with what
I have. So it's like at the end of the day,
I'm like, Okay, if this is good and people like it,
it's just going to go with the little that I
can do. Right now.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
This is just gonna spread so that the music's pick Yeah,
and like you said, just being your authentic self will
lead to that.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
But yeah, hopefully one day I can have it.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
It will manifest, that shit manifest.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Already, see I already see it.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
It will.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
All right everyone, we're gonna toss the break real quick.
But when we come back, Tessca staying with us for
our favorite part of the show.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
All right, everyone, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
As you know every episode, comey and I like to
leave you with two things that we love the most,
which is obviously la musica football and we call this
part of the show. Okay aka like send me an
assist to a goal, the MVP.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Okay, So coming you.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Start first, okay, so am famos.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I have like the best person to ask about music,
Latina Miti Midi Withes.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
How do you feel about that track? I love it.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
I think it's a vibe. It gives you that reggae
but also like reggaeton vibe, and it talks about I think,
something that everybody goes through, which is like that feeling
of uncertainty, which is why it's called Medi medi I.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I personally love that track. But in addition to Mitimdi
that you should all be listening to, right now, what
other tracks do you think that we should like hear from,
maybe like somebody is just gretting into you, Like what
other tracks do you recommend?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
What are you working on?

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Like is a person and Buddy get oxcur this is
us letter, Oh no, why not you gonna cat almost Semana.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
His lie VP.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Musica American Cancia, bord Theatrical.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Moti and santoge came.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
And rom pieno presi Porto Rico dela rosee Rosetta, Rignaldo
da la Musica and prem and cant.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
And do yes like like.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Vecurse a different Bordo riotod okay cool so super cool,
David geta super cool de Puerto Rico.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Momento that Chesca is like finding a moment where she's
like coming with some heat. So I know that I
don't know if you're allowed to share, like when that's
gonna be available, but I would just say, like be
on the lookout right because.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
You're trying to do something different.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Did check us like now.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
And super d n a algo Colombian and the Colombia
No Colombians so and you can.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Caledonion you see when a pastoral as seven the okay.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
You know you can super like typic okays. The Colombia
is the Latin America, so mahin Columbia compleanos looks.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
The party.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Hungeo Malata. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
At the time of this recording a little bit delayed
because I went to a brand new women's basketball tournament
which is co founded. Do you like basketball, by the way,
do you like basketball? No, not not that much.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I mean, like not that I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
I just never grew up with okay, with sports like that.
My my parents were more like into you know, arts.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Okay, Well, this is perfect because part of our podcast
is also trying to get more Latinas into sports, but
also women's sports because it's empowering.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Just like music is a tool for inspiration and outlet,
so is sports. So that's why we want to fuse
the two and as a bridge point. So I recently
went to this brand new tournament called Unrivaled, co founded
by two female basketball players, Nafisa Collier and Branda Stewart.
They raised a bunch of money and it's a three
v three basketball tournament for the off season. So usually

(51:01):
you're in the in season for the WNBA and in
the off season. All these players have to go to
different countries to play and also as a source of income,
right because women's sports still unfortunately isn't at men's sports yet.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
So anyways, I got to experience it live here in Miami,
and guys, the videos that I saw, I was so mad.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I kind of make it.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, but this this new vibe it is. It's like
it's obviously a three v three tournament. These women are
making good money while playing in it. They also have
equity into this tournament, and then the champion team, you know,
will win a huge bonus. But you know, at the
end of the day, this new league is raising a
bar for women's basketball players and women's sports in general. Yeah,

(51:43):
so I how to share this unrivaled was a heck
of experience.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
It's like a whole production.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
You know you talk about like music and production and
stage and lighting and music. Well, this is literally the
fusion of sports and music because they're playing and then
you have people like with the cell phones like this
with the music in the lights. So it was it
was awesome And I just have to share this with
you because that's a that's like a live event that
anybody can go yeah. Yeah, And I'm in the off season,

(52:08):
so it started in January through mid March, okay, but
it's going to keep on going so like next year,
definitely trying to go.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yeah, like we should go, we should go together. And
I'm reading right now like they have childcare because a
lot of the players are moms, and I just want
to say yes, thank the Lord.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
No seriously, but these are things that I think, you know,
female artists, as female athletes, like we're all growing in
our own spaces.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
And in our distreaming our space. Yeah, fighting for what's ours, Jessica.
We could literally hang all day, which we will do
one day by the pool for sure.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Can I get that invite?

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yes, welcome. What what can we do to keep up
with you? Can you share your social media? Like where
are you? Where can people find you?

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Oh? You can follow me on Instagram just chessca.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
But if you want to see more of of like
my goofy side, TikTok definitely is the place to check
me out, which is also chessca.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
And if you want to see the.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Super overly produced stuff to go to YouTube and find
me on chesca too.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
But the choreo you gotta go on YouTube and watch
the choreo.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
T Actually well, yeah, that's yeah, that's a lot of
the choreography happens on the music videos, but actually also
on my TikTok, so you guys can go check me
out there.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Okay, perfect, well.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Mellie, Well, that that wraps it up. Thank you CHESSCA
so much all the time. Thank you for being here,
for sharing your story with us so openly as well,
and you're sharing your culture the Puerto Rico.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
You are an inspiration to so many women around the world,
So please keep being you, keep doing you, and keep
being I think it's so important for artists in the
Latino space to be expressing art in the way that
they want to express it. And I'm so proud of
you for like taking that step and doing things that
can sometimes be scary, and like standing in your power

(53:59):
and like being firm in the way that you want
to express your art. And I'm so excited for what's
to come from Chessca.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Am Well, guys, that's everything for today. Thank you for
joining Melli and I for We will catch you next week,
but we want to give you a quick notice first
for those struggling with mental crisis or an emotional distress,
know that there are services you can go to.

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Speak with someone today by calling nine eight eight. That
is the Suicide End Crisis Lifeline.

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Mellie, I love you so much.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I gotta come to Miami more often.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
So we can wait. Wait, we gotta end with something.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
With us.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
No, no, you're supposed to sting.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
With Oh I'm like, am I supposed to? A?

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Bye?

Speaker 5 (54:59):
An?

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