November 2, 2024 • 47 mins
Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, November 2nd, 2024
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on
the Big ninety twenty in your iHeartRadio app. We're coming
from the Donovan and Jorgenson Heating and Cooling studios. Any
problems you're going to have to turn your furnace on
now it's getting cold. Any issues you have, go to
Donovan Jorgenson dot com, the largest employee owned HVAC company
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in the state of Wisconsin. So Bingo's taken the day
off and that's all right. He needs the day off
every once in a while. Representing Creative Construction Wisconsin. I've
got Aaron Anderson, Aaron.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Horria pretty good, Mike little cold, but yeah, there.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You'll be all right. How's the family doing great? Saw
a picture of your daughter on the horse and it
was great.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh she's addicted to it already, she really she is.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Man, that's just so awesome. We're also joined. Brian, is
it Hibbard?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You want you can move that microprone Brian? Howriy it's
first time I've met you. How long you've been with
Creative Construction.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Was I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I've been working there six years.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good for you, it's a good place to work. Yeah, yeah,
Aaron treats here. Okay, yeah he doesn't he does, all right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, how about Bengo, Zach, Sam Dev everybody's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
To It's a great Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's it's definitely a family owned company. And when you
talk to people that aren't actually part of their family,
they go, look, we feel like we're part of this
family at this point.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So good for you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So every week, guys, when for this show, I talk
about things I don't know a ton about. Right, I've
done enough with with guys that do you know roofs
and plumbing and electrical and h fact that I can
ask some questions. But this week, Holy now I am
out of my comfort zone. But I'm excited because I've
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had the chance for the next thirty minutes to uh to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Talk to Autumn Ludberg.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
She is Autumn Lundberg Art and she is a a
an artist, a designer, all of that, and Creative Construction
did a great project for her and we asked her
to come in and talk a little bit about some
of the things that she does and this job that
Creative Construction, Wisconsin did. But I have to ask her
first of all, it's so nice to meet you. How
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are you?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Oh, it's great to meet you too. I'm honored to
be here with you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, you will ask you at the end of the
show you're still if you're still honored. And I'm going
to apologize up front for I may ask you some
questions that you just shake your head at because you're
talking to somebody that doesn't when it comes to music
and art, not really in my wheelhouse. And I'm excited though,
to talk to you about some of the things that
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you have and you are doing.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But I have to start with this. You were born
in Marshfield.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Grew up in a Rhinelander, Yes, and at eighteen decided
to call to Los Angeles. And as an eighteen year old,
do you want to talk about going opposite? You are
totally opposite. What was it like the first week when
you were in LA. Were you just like, oh my goodness,
what have I done?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
No? And I do think it was the young ignorance
of being out there.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
I was very excited. I knew that.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Art was really the only thing that I was naturally
good at. I'm a middle child. Both of my siblings
were going into medicine and super athletes and I just
was never an athlete and hated biology. I was not
dissecting any of the animals, and so art was, you know,
what I gravitated towards, and also just what I was
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always interested in, even as a kid.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
I always liked sculptures and stuff.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
And so going out to Los Angeles was, uh, it
wasn't too you know, over par for me.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Shall we say it was?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
When I worked in Los Angeles, I worked at a
CrossFit gym. I was a personal assistant to a musician
of the Black Eyed Peas. I was a personal assistant
to a photographer. I worked valet at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffle.
I mean, I worked at Zoomi's putting skateboards together. I
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had so many jobs that one I learned, I do
not want to work for someone else. That was established
pretty early on, was I, if I'm going to do this,
I need to put all of the energy that I'm
putting into being an assistant for this musician, and I
need to put that into myself.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Can we talk a little bit about the job that
creative construction?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh please, because that's kind of why you're here. I've
got a lot of questions for you on you know
how the whole LA thing and did that help you
as an artist?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Did it hurt you?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And I've got some questions as far as how you
see things kind of guy, And I say it on
the show a lot. When when you have Creative Construction
of Wisconsin come out to do work, I can't see
it before they're done. Right If I if I'm going
to paint a wall and I want to paint it green,
I can't see it by putting up three different greens
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right on the wall and figure it. I can't. I
have do not have that ability. And I think it's
a true gift to be able to see things before
they happen. And in your world you must see things
all the time before they happen. And I man, I
would love to have some of that. But this job
that Creative Construction Wisconsin did for you, I'm looking at
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pictures of it right now and it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
The ceiling was.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Fine, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
The ceiling that was fine.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Before we go right, you're about going opposite and move
the microphone to you a little bit erin if we can't.
But the ceiling was fine, and your client wanted the
ceiling not to be fine.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Well, so when I met with the client, we had
talked about doing something that combined the old with the new.
So her whole condo is supposed to kind of feel
like an abandoned Italian villa, and then she's filling it
with really modern finishes as far as furniture and sculptures
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and artwork, and so she has that balance of you know,
really gritty raw elements mixed with you know, a purple
velvet sofa and so on. And so when she mentioned
that she wanted to do a ceiling installation, I asked
if I could put together some concepts for her. And
as I was doing the ideation for the concepts, I
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somehow came up with this idea of doing a gaping
hole in her ceiling with that like the heavens crashing through.
And she collects a lot of crystals, and I also
have always loved rocks, and so I wanted to do
something with glass and clear quartz and make it so
that it almost looked like a deconstructed chandelier crashing through
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the ceilings, sort of resembling like the heavens crashing through.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
And so then one of the harder parts.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Was sketching out how I wanted the ceiling to look,
and I mean, honestly, I did not know how to
go about that part of the project. And I think
when I show people the project, that's the most impressive part.
The crystals are fun, the glass and the light in
the middle is fun, but the broken ceiling is really
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what makes it incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So Aaron, when you get noticed that you're going to
take a perfectly good ceiling and make it look like
something crashed through it. This is something you guys have
never done before, right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't think anybody's ever done. I mean mine and
Bingos first out the first time we met with him
was I mean, there's no way Brian's not doing this.
He's the only one that can wrap his head around
the concept because I mean, I'm I'm not an artist.
I could draw a pretty good star, right, Yeah, but
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that's it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I can tell you that Spencer had asked me. I said, look,
I'm going to be really uncomfortable with this. He goes, well,
can you paint and draw? And I made that? Yeah,
that the old three D that's it. That's all I've got.
My wife Terry can draw really well, and she teaches
Sunday School at our church, and she has for years.
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And there are things that she'll get that she can
use that she's not she doesn't like, and so she'll
draw the dog or she'll draw and she's very good
at it. I can't and she'll be like, can you help?
I can't help you. No, if it's numbered, I might
be able to help. So I love the fact that
you did. You were like that, Brian, if you could
grab the micro real quick when you got involved in
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this project. Do you have that that artist kind of
thought process?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I mean I took our classes in college, okay, and
I've had a art studio practice ever since, so I
kind of knew what.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh. So you had to be excited to get involved
in this project. Looking at the smile on your face,
very excited.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I hit the jackpot. I hit the jackpot. When I
met Bengo and the guys or you.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Guys came in, I said, why would why did you
think about creative construction Wisconsin? And you had said somebody
saw something.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
On their work.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, that made me think let's give them a Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Angela, the main designer for my client's condo. She uh,
she was I don't know how she found it, but
she was looking for broken ceiling pictures and she found
the one on the Creative Construction website and then reached
out to them and said, hey, can you recreate this
broken ceiling?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was actually a before picture of a closet that
it had fallen down. The ceiling had fallen down, and
then the guy never opened his closet for years, so
he opened it up and like, hey, I don't have
any plaster on my ceiling. And so that before the
before and after parts. Think that might have been the
first time we've gotten a job from a before picture.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So when they when they took out and and Brian,
when you took out part of the ceiling, was the
was the wood that that's what what you see underneath
the actual ceiling? Correct, No, oh, it's not okay. So
what was actually underneath there when you started taking the
plaster out?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, we did it all as new construction, right, So
the ceiling was designed for this whole.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Installation, so it was it's a drop ceiling and it
was actually concrete, so the whole thing was concrete. So
we actually had another team come in first and they
did the oak floor portion of the ceiling, which is
the more center portion, and then the creative construction team
came in and they did the lath and the plaster,
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which arguably is the more dramatic portion of the installation
because it's the most exposed. But so we were a
little lucky to have the oak floor already in place
and kind of giving the creative construction team a guideline.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Was that part of your design as well, the oak party? Yeah,
so you could before you as you started to design this,
did you see this before it happened?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
So when I was drawing it out, I knew that
I just wanted it to look very layered, and so
in my original concept sketch, I had a darker wood
floor in the center where the hole is, and then
I had a second layer of a wood floor on
top of that, which was like the lath, and then
the plaster on top of that. So I wanted like
a three tier broken visual just to give it that
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depth that it really looked like there were layers to
this home. And and it wasn't just you know, a
plaster ceiling that had broken through.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
It was like a really old building.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And and so I had a concept sketch that I
was showing the different construction teams and carpenter teams, and
you know that I think gave us a nice little blueprint.
And I mean that's probably one of the more impressive
parts of this project is when I show people the
concept sketch and then when I show them the final image,
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they're like mind blown because it's so spot on. And
I can't thank you guys enough, because I just know
that if the the if your portion of the ceiling
didn't turn out the way that it did, theole the whole.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Installation would have just it wouldn't have the same integrity
that it does.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There is there a light, Yeah, there is, so that
the picture that I see is during the day and
she's just got I mean, the windows are incredible. It
hurts that the view is incredible. And then at this
flights up exact.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, I have pictures if you want to feel Yeah,
during the.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Break, I definitely want to see that because I think
that that gives it a whole different feel. Right, is
it real bright or is it it is?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
So there's a pendant chandelier in the center, so it's
irregular faceted glass pendents and they're about the size of
a softball almost, But like I said, they're all faceted
and they're all different, and so they blend in with
the different glass and crystal pieces. And then when you
turn that the chandelier on, actually all of the you know,
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clear and opaque elements around it are then illuminated, and
so the whole installation looks like it's lit. So the
whole installation looks like a chandelier, even though the only
light sources is in the center from probably I think
there's maybe twelve to fifteen light sources.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I have a favor to ask, can you post these
pictures on your website?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I would like that because because as we tell people,
and there's a number of ways to find out more
about you, what is the best way for us to
promote I've got your website here, but if you just
if you google her, it's automn Lundberg l u N
d b e RG Autumn Lundberg Art. There's a number
of ways to see some of the work that you've done.
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But I can send people to your website. I think
by googling you you can see all the different platforms
that they can find. So I would google her again.
Autumn Lundberg. Autumn Lundberg Art is the name of this company,
and I'm telling you it's impressive. First of all, your
dog is a big part of Yeah, you love that dog.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
She's been with me. I got her on when she
was three months old. I was out in Los Angeles.
She's from Compton, straight out of Compton, right out of
ken She has been there with me through every art
studio I've ever had, the small little ten by ten rooms,
and when I've worked out in my living room and
my bedroom, and anytime I put a tarp, she's like, Oh,
that's my new spot, Autumn.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
If I would have talked to eighteen years, if I
could go back and talk to eighteen year old Autumn
a couple of weeks after she got into LA and
said to you, Hey, in fifteen years, you're gonna be
in the radio station with me and we're gonna be
talking about this company that you've built in these projects.
And the second Hey, the second segment today, I'm gonna
talk to you about what you did last night and
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we're gonna talk sports. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you off
the air of my Michael Jordan's story by day Okay,
I try not to tell too many people that story
because I don't it doesn't go well for me. But
we'll talk some sports in the second segment and some
things that you've done.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But if I went back and talked to eighteen.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Year old who was leaving Ryan Lander to go to
la and say, listen, fifteen years here's where you're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Living in the Milwaukee area and you're gonna be doing this,
what would you have said to me?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I think I would have been most surprised that I
would be back in Milwaukee. I think everything else I
would have thought, yeah, that checks out. But as far
as you know, being back in Milwaukee, that was something
that kind of just you know, came like after the fact,
because I wanted to be close to family and I
want to be back in nature. If I'm being honest,
you know, the city is just like it's a lot
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of a lot of concrete, and I found myself just
wanting to escape. But no, I mean honestly, like I
could cry, like I am so proud of myself for
just doing the work, for really putting the energy in
and doing the work and being a good person, and
every single part of my journey is from the organic
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connections that I made along the way. And I tell
people when I talk to the class at myad the
Milwaukee and Steuw of Art and Design, and the first
thing I tell them is, you have to be a
good person because the you know, whatever you believe in
the universe, God, just anything, you know, you have to
find yourself in the right place at the right time.
And that is not something that you can do for yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think people are times in the right place at
the right time and they don't recognize it. Yeah, and
then a year, a month, a year, two years, six
years later you go, oh, my goodness, that's why I
was there.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Didn't take advantage of that last question.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Before we get to a break.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
On my high school show, we have the Creative I'm sorry,
the Kernel Electric Superhero the week. So every week we
bring in a high school senior and it doesn't have
to be involved in sports. Somebody acquires somebody in the
art room, with somebody that does great work in the classroom,
very active in the school. It gives back to our
community and ask him this question. I'm going to ask
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you your motivation for having that servant leadership heart that
you have. It's not something we're born with. It's a
learned behavior. And where do you think you got that from?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
From being out in the woods and talking to the animals,
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
That's the first time anybody answered that question that way, really,
So that's you think. And as far as having that
that be a good person heart, it came from your upbringing.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah, it definitely came from me. You know, literally seeing
a little fawn and you know, wanting the best for it.
Seeing you know, we would find we had wild cats
and they would go out and they would bring back
little baby rabbits, and so then we'd care for the
baby rabbit and we bring it to this you know,
wildlife sanctuary and then you know, you just you start
to develop a care for for your environment and the animals.
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And and I remember being a kid and talking to
the bees. And it's so silly when you think about it,
but you know, people who have animals and care for
animals are typically really good people, especially with other people
and children.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Don't watch the movie is it Bambi? Gosh, don't you
don't do it?
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Kidding me? Like every Disney movie from from my childhood
is so traumatic.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Fox in the.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Hounds, they're all traumatic, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing that,
you know, for people that watch that, like like I did,
and we were fine. We're fine. In studio with me
representing Creative Construction Wisconsin, Aaron Anderson, Brian Hibbert and Brian
we're going to get more into the art side of
this in the third segment with you and I want
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to kind of pick your brain with that our special guest.
And again I would google her because that her website
is great.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
But if you google her, there's.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Six or seven or eight different ways to reach out
to see some of the work that she has done.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
She is Autumn Lundberg.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's l u n d b E rg b E
rg Lundberg Autumn Lundberg Art. And you're going to be
really impressed with and I call her very she's really
young to me. With the work that this young woman
has done for a number of clients, She's got a
lot of cool things going on. Right now, we're going
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to talk about her being the next artist in resident
at Ascent. And I didn't know what that was. I
old somebody at a lunch that I was at when
they said, hey, who do you have on the Creative
Construction on the Home Improvement Show and I go, oh boy,
I'm not in my element on this one. And I
told him about you and they said, oh, that building
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is right down the block.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So I throve by it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. We're also going to talk
about this part. She was at a meeting last night,
at an event last night, the Michael Jordan brand. They're
coming out with a new woman's Jordan. She was correct,
yeap what and you were there and we're going to
find out on the other side of break.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
While you were there.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't want to have us start talking about that
until the other side. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin
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Aaron Anderson and Brian Herebert. Hey, Aaron, tell me about
business right now. You guys are still outside a little
bit right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We're pushing outside really hard. I've got a really big
project on North Ave and Tosa, doing an outside of
a coffee shop and trying to push that hopefully finish
it before winter sets in. But I mean not looking likely.
That's a lot of it's a lot of muddle on
the walls.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Hey, I love the fact that you guys are busy
enough that you're hiring. And I know that Sam had
sent me some information we've got we have a commercial
errand right now about you guys are hiring a laborer
and you guys are training and uh, there's information on
there on your website call Creative Construction dot com about this,
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and and I love the fact that that in that
that commercial experience would be great but not necessary.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You guys are willing to train.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm absolutely willing to train. Not a whole lot of
people to do traditional stuff going plast year so right,
experienced people are hard to find.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And as a laborer, I mean, what I want is
for people to understand that this isn't don't think of
this as a job.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
This is a career.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You guys, you guys are you know, Bride's been there
a long time, Zach, you know, everybody's worked at Creative Construction.
When they get there, they realize what a great company
it is and they stay. And I want people to
think about this as a career. What does a typical
laborer do for you guys?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh, they help us get set up. I mean they're
not doing it alone. I can't do that. They'll help
us set up cover. And then typically they're mixing, which
a lot of people don't like, but it's the most
important part of the job. Because they're mixing the mud wrong,
I can't put it on the walls and that delays it.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So Yeah, and talk about the pride that the people
that come work for Creative Construction.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Scoon' said.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Listen, you know, we have Autumn Lumberg in studio and
she's an artist and when you go to when you
google her, you'll see some of the work she does.
And this job that you guys did for her is
not the usual type of work. But man, how fun
to be able to do something. It showcased this this
wide variety of talent that you guys have working at
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Creative Construction Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean it was a great opportunity. And like
I said earlier, as soon as we mean Bingo saw
for the first time saw the concept, the first person
popped in my head was Brian, Like, we send him anytime.
If you've got a goofy texture on your wall or something,
We'll send him because he's I joke that he's the
only one patient enough in the company to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He might microphone over real quick.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So when when as an artist and somebody that works
at Creative Construction Wisconsin, you the patient's part of it
comes is natural for you.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, it comes from I'm doing art my whole life,
I guess send attention to detail and sitting down and
doing the work.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, Autumn, you're you're a very patient person. Yes, in
most aspects of your life. You don't mind going getting
on the freeway left lane guy going first five, or
your flash and go and get out of them for
a while.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
There is nothing well it compared to rhinelanders a lot,
but not compared to La.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The patients part of it you would agree with.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Which absolutely absolutely. I mean, it's it's all about the details.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I think that's what separates good work from from bad work,
no matter what you're creating, and even just the love
and attention and passion that you're putting into it. I mean,
you see it most often. I think in food you
can tell when someone creates, you know, something with love versus.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
When they're just whipping it together.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
And I think that also translates into, you know, the
creative construction.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Side, the art side, and I mean, really.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
With everything, you'll work with them again, won't you?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Oh my gosh, I'm I'm so grateful because now when
I show people the installation that done, because that is
the lane that I would love to stay in.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Now I have the tools to create these things.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
You know, I can reach out to you guys and
consult you and say, hey, you know what do you
think the best way to go about this would be?
I don't need to work with these incredible interior designers.
Shout out to Angela, who you know had she was
the head designer.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
She was great.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
But I'm not always going to have the luxury of
working with interior designers like her, and so to have,
you know, a team of carpenters who I trust is
I mean that changes everything for me.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I did.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I applied to do an installation at the Denver Airport.
It's a long shot, but if I get it, Just
so you guys know, we're hanging stuff back up and
we're all flying to Denver.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Ryan, you're going to have You're going to be in
Denver for about a month. I'm tealting And you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That, do you?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah. I've been there one time. My official had a
wedding in the mountains and there's something about being in
the mountains that is very good for your soul and
more for somebody like you, I think than me.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But there was it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Slowed me down for a minute, and the just the
pure beauty, the natural beauty was. The driving in the
mountains was not all that great, you know. I was
My wife was like, wow, look how highway look down and.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I'm like, no, there's no guard.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's scary.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Where I met?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Can we talk about where you were last night and
how you got involved with with the Michael Jordan thing?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
So okay, So last night they were doing a release
for the new women's air Jordan Eleven's called Bread Velvet,
and I was invited to be one of the eleven
female artists showing at this gallery space and celebration of
the release.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And so that was an.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Honor because they were really pulling in a lot of
local Chicago artists and I was the only artist from Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So yeah, how did I get Did.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You have to apply or how did that happen?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
So going back to just being a good person and
meeting people organically, I I met this gentleman named Kendall Hearns.
He's an art manager in Chicago. He manages some really
cool artists who I think are awesome. And I had
reached out to him and just set up a meeting
between him and I, and we actually have some people
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in common from an art show that I did back
in twenty seventeen out in Miami. And so, you know,
having people in common. And I said this last night,
it's a form of social currency. Because if I reach
out to you and I say, hey, I'm familiar with
your best friend, well you're going to look at me
entirely differently. And so when I'm reaching out to this
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art managers setting up a meeting, and he and I
already have a whole crew of people in common who
I know are some heavy hitters. You know, I was
It was almost just I was so old or he
was sold before we even met. And so he now
invites me to do really cool events and such.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
What did you did you show your work last night?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And how hard was it for you to pick what
pieces to bring with you?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well, it wasn't very hard because I make a lot
of large artwork and I asked, I said, what are
the size requirements?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And they said probably the smaller the better.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
And so one of my smaller pieces was forty inches
wide and forty eight inches tall and it's actually two
pieces put together, which is called a diptick.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And I can move that in my truck.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
And so when it comes to five by sixes, that's
a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I'm strapping the canvas.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
To the to the top of the bet of my truck,
and so to all the cars around me, it just
looks like I have a canvas floating on the bet
of my truck. Little do they know I have it
strapped down. But yeah, the bet of my truck is
is smaller than you know, the average bed, and so
for four feet wide, is as wide as I can go.
And but yeah, so I fit those pieces inside of
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my inside the truck was at.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
A gallery down in downtown Chicago.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
It was in Hyde Park. I'm not too familiar with Chicago,
but it is, you know, south of downtown a little bit.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
It was a it was an awesome space.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
They had a lot of like one of a kind
designer furniture that was paired with the artwork.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
And yeah, it was a it was a cool And you.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Have some air Jordan's in your car?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I do?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I did better say that somebody.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You'll come to the station and look for your car.
Get those bad boys.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
My first pair of air Jordan's eleven ever, I showed
my boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
He goes, are those elevens?
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And I just looked at him like, how do you
know what what number or what type of shoe this is?
But so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep him in
the box and they're just gonna kind of be a
little trophy for me.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Andre Andre you think no. So he's actually in Louisiana,
So he is.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He could be on the Iheartragio.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
He good, he could be.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
He could.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
So he's a professional skateboarder and tattoo artist. He's signed
to Young Money and so he's out at the Louisiana Fest,
which is Lil Wayne's festival in Louisiana.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
So he's out there with them.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You're speaking Spanish to me, Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
To teach you how to shoot a free throw? And
you know, Brian, I take it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I said that in Brian's or Aaron said, yeah, who
would be? She's going to teach me to draw, and
I'm going to teach you how to shoot a free throw.
And Aaron's like, yeah, yeah, you'll be able to teach
her to shoot a free throw. She you can't draw.
I shoot my artwork here on this piece of paper,
and I think you're right by the way the Lake Drive. Yeah,
art piece is beautiful.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Thank you? Yeah, my my Milwaukee inspired piece.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What inspired this?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
So?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Actually a long time ago, I was I was flying
out of Milwaukee and the airplane did a little loopy
loop around the city and I got to see a
point of view that I had never seen before, and
it was of the harbor off of Lake Drive, but
right by that collectible on the lake. And so I
was just taking a ton of pictures and I knew
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one day I want to make a piece inspired by this.
And then I went out one night and I do
not ever go out ever, and the one time I
went out, I ran into someone. I ran into a
friend and he's like, you know, Autumn, I really want
to get a painting, which is Brian knows every anytime
you run into a friend, they're like, oh, I really
want a painting, and you're like, okay, but no, he
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actually venmoed me on the spot for the painting. He
sent me a lot of money on the spot for
the painting and he said, you know, I wanted to
be a Milwaukee inspired piece, and so yeah, that was
I should go out more often, I guess I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I ask people that come into this show, how early
in the process do you talk budgets? And so as
an artist, I think it's probably something you have to
have a conversation with people very quickly in the conversation,
and are people comfortable with giving you the true budget?
So with home improvement, if they have ten thousand dollars,
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they're going to say I have seventy five hundred because
they're afraid if they tell you, you're going to spend the
whole ten And I think that just slows the process down.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Just be honest with people.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
How early in the process do you have to have
that budget talk with people?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Tell them immediately, I say, I charge by the square inch,
and I have an equation, and if you know what
size piece you want, we can do the math right here.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh that's awesome, that's great. Do you think other artists
is that how they work as well?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Not typically. I mean some people do.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
But it is a piece of advice that I give
to emerging artists because I think it's uncomfortable to tell
people prices because it feels almost a little bit emotional.
And when you can just create a equation for it. Oh,
you want abstract piece, that's a dollar per square inch.
You want something more figurative that's two dollars a square inch.
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You want something glass, And then as the years go by,
you can up that last year I was a dollar
per square inch. This isn't real, But like you say,
last year I was this much per square inch, and
this year you go.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Up fifty cents per square Inche have two.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
And what you're really doing, I mean that's actually a
significant amount. You know, one dollar per squareanch, two dollars
per square inch. That's double, that's double what you charge.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Did do you ever think that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Look, sometimes so I get asked to go out and
speak a lot, and I'll ask you have a budget yep,
And I'll say, well what is the budget? Well, how
much do you charge? Or what is theta? And sometimes
I don't ask for I'll throw out a number and
then they go right away, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm thinking, ah, you know, maybe I should have asked
for a little bit more, And I think probably with
you do you feel that way? And two do you
ever do a piece for somebody and you just don't
want it?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
You love it so much you want to keep it.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Oh my gosh. That let's start there. That's my biggest problem.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
But actually when I make a personal piece and then
I lift it for sale, that's harder for me. Most
of the time I decide it's actually not for sale
and I end up keeping it okay. But when I
know I'm making something for someone, it's a little bit
easier to let.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Go of it.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
The piece that I made actually for the client who
also got the ceiling installation. I loved that piece. The
field of Guardians piece in the bedroom. I don't know
if you guys saw it, YEA moved the microphone over it,
so can I.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Before you go on, when you get a chance to
see some of this work. And I've been to your house, right,
and I love your house. It's like one of my
favorite houses I've ever been to. But it's different than
some of the the I'm sure some of the spaces
that Autumn works in. Right, Yours is an old farmhouse
that was built.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And we're thinking eighteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And yeah, it's it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's just a cool place to be that the art
that I think that Autumn does might be for. When
I see her work, I think of high rises and
really big, big homes in Fox Point and people, are
you able to see some of this work and just.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Completely respect the work it is?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I don't know some of the pieces I've seen that
she's done if they'd fit in my condo, And I
don't know if they would fit in the artwork that
you guys have in your house, But boy, I can
certainly appreciate the kind of work that she does.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I'm sure you do too.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh yeah, I mean all of the work I've seen
of hers the condo. Granted, the condo is the only
spot I've been where I've seen it installed in person,
and her artwork fits perfectly and with it, and I
think that means. That's got to mean you're good at
adjustin what you're doing for the particular client.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
YEA.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like, I'm sure if she came to my house or
your house and I told her to like make me something,
I'm sure she would look at look out over the
pasture and the old barn and the general.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible. I have to be honest with you.
We got to get to a break. I want to
talk a little bit, Autumn about what you're going to
start December first, and what that means. I don't know
what an artist in residence is, and so I'm going
to ask you about that. Guys, I look, do yourself
a favor and google her. She is Autumn Lundberg. It's
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l u n D b e r G Autumn Lunberg Art.
Take a look at her website, take a look at
some of the stuff that she does. There's a number
of ways to get in contact with her. And I
just think some of the things she does is incredible.
She's changing lives and I think she does know that.
But the kind of things that she does, I think
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people are going to be, you know, talking about for
years to come. And I think that that's such a
The legacy that she leaves with the work that she
does is really quite incredible. Again, Autumn Lundberg, go to
Autumn Lundberg Art and take a look at some of
her work. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement
show on the Big nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app.
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You shoring the Big nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app.
Coming from the Donovan and Jorgensen Headen and Coolian Studios.
I'm joined in studio from with Aaron Anderson, Brian Hebberd
from a Creative Construction of Wisconsin and our special guest man.
We could I can't believe I'm going to say this.
We could do three hours with her. And Spencer's kind
of laughing because at about seven thirty I said, I
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don't know if I'm going to be able to do
an hour on art.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You are phenomenal, young lady.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I got to tell you, Autumn Lundberg Autumn Lundberg Art.
Google that and I could give you her websites the
first thing that pops up. But there's six, seven, eight
different ways that you can find out more about Autumn.
She's very active. You're active on social definitely.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
I have I have a TikTok, I have Instagram, and
on both of those platforms, I have videos and pictures
of the process of this installation. And you know me
talking in the background explaining and where do.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You do your work? Do you have a studio and
that you go to every day? Do you have are
you able to turn your work mind off when you
leave the studio or are you always looking at things
around you trying to get inspiration.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's it's constant, and I don't even think it's you
have to try at a certain point. You have so
many sketch books full of ideas and so many pictures
in your phone of different color combinations that you see
around town or out in nature that when someone comes
to you and they say, oh, I kind of want
a painting and I want it to be read, I
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can say, okay, do you want to hear all of
my red painting ideas?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Because I have about sixteen of them. So, you know,
you kind of.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Build up this like sketch book portfolio, just rotating, just constant.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Hey, so starting December first, you're going to be the
new artist in resident at a cent Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
So actually this hasn't been announced yet, so this is
no I mean, listen, I put it in the notes.
I said we could talk about it, but I just
want to let everybody know this is brand new information.
I have not announced it on my social media. It
has not been announced through Ascent, but the contract has
been signed. And so A Cent is Timber high rise
in downtown Milwaukee. It was built in the last couple
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of years and for a short period of time it
was the tallest timber building in the world.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Very short period of time. I think they got their past. Yeah,
so they.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Were, but they made it.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
They did what.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
They did, and it's a it's a gorgeous building, very modern,
and so they have an artists and resident program, which
basically means you just use their studio space, and so
I'll be split time between my studio space and River
West and their studio space, which is on their twenty
fifth floor. It has gorgeous views of the lake and
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I mean it's essentially like three hundred and sixty degree views.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I find their website.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Now, and with the work you do there, could you
just get me one of those condos for a couple
of years. Just say, hey, my new friend Mike mcgivertt
needs to have my wife, and I I will try.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I will try to pull all the strings.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I will not hold my breath for that. These apartments
are and condos are beautiful. Yeah, they're absolutely gorgeous. And
then you will be there and is it just for
people from the building or can ever people come?
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Basically, you know, you're kind of like their live entertainment,
like the live music. You sort of feel like you're
in a little fish bowl as people walk past and
they're watching you sketch or watching you, you know, paint,
and that will be something very different than what I
I'm used to because I tell people I am not
a live painter. That's not my forte. I take a
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lot of time to make what I do, and it's
you know, all the processes are always different depending on
the piece, and so sometimes I think it is fun
to watch and other times it's probably super boring. But
the good news or the good part about working up
at a cent is that I can create some of
my hours. So if I want to go up there
from eight am to ten am when there aren't many
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people around, I can do that. And then maybe when
a piece is further along and I want them to
see it, then I'll come up during their you know,
the rush hour of the amenity space.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Did you think you'll have.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
You'll have jobs or will you be doing things that
you will then put out for sale.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
I have some personal pieces that I want to make,
and I last night. I was also invited to be
a part of the Chicago Expo in April, which is
essentially like you know, Art Basle of Chicago, and Art
Basil is like fashion Week of the art world. So
it's like fashion week for the art world in Chicago,
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and that's in April. And I was invited to be
a part of of their their show with the people
I was with last night, and and I told them,
I said, I'm gonna have a bunch of new pieces
ready to show. And so some of the some of
the work that I make will just be hung at
Assent and will be for sale, and other pieces won't
be for sale and they'll be my personal pieces.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
And yeah, I mean some of those, Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
So I love the fact when I said last segment,
you would work with Creative Construction again, and you said.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And I really like that because on this show and
it's sponsored by Creative Construction Wiscotts and it's their show.
And the people that we have come in are normally
you know again, guys that that that that do their
your roof or they redo your kitchen or they do
a number of things where they're always saying to me, look,
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they're the boss. Creative Construction Wisconsin is the best company
that we work with when it comes to what we
need with this. And then to have somebody so far
outside of that element saying the same thing, I think
they they got to feel awfully good about the work
that they didn't and and I know that Brian. If
we can move the microphone over to Brian, Brian, if
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you could do more work with people like Autumn that
would that? Would you'd be okay with that, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah? It was definitely probably the most fun project we
did for the company.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
But when you when you're what kind of art do
you do?
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I do mostly paintings and like collage, mixed media like stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
You have mixed media on your website.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I don't know what that means. Could you explain that?
For me?
Speaker 5 (43:49):
It means anything that makes the color goes.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Brian's laughing at me. I told you I was gonna
answer dickulous questions. He's like, Man, it's mixed media. You
know what, I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I marker, paint, tar, makeup.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Different medias, mixing anything.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
What are you most comfortable with?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I use acrylic pants mostly, okay? And what kind of
you your mind's all.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
I'm most comfortable with just taking risks.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Well, you see what you did with that ceiling. That's
taking a risk. And then hey, the process.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
If somebody were to contact you, say next week, and
say I have this, I want to hire you, and
they agree with what the price is, what's the how
much time?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I mean, of course it depends on the project. It
depends on the scale of the project. But you know
I so I have a degree in industrial design and
that has really informed my uh communication and deliverables that
I that I have with my client. And so I
will meet with the client, we talk about what their
goals are, what they want for their space, and then
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I go back into my studio, I create a handful
of concepts and we just go back and forth then
until we agree on something, and it's really like a
collaboration between me and that client. And then from there
I typically quote four to six weeks, but you know
for a big installation, it could be four to eight weeks.
And also that is where I would then consult the
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creative construction team and ask them, Hey, as far as
you know, creating the structure of this, how long would
that take? As far as creating you know, the lath
and the plaster, what do you guys think about that?
And yeah, so it just becomes like a conversation.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Really, family's proud of you, aren't they They are they
are they have to be so proud of you. And
I hope i'll get you a copy of this show. Oh,
I'll send it over to Bengo and Salmon, they'll send it.
Please have the people and Ryan Landers you still have
family there. Oh yeah, yeah, send it up to them.
They got to be so so proud. She is Autumn Lundberg.
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Go to Autumn Lundeberg Art. It's l u N D
b e Erg. Just google her and you will be
amazed at the work that this this scale does. We
didn't get into sports a whole lot. We're going to
have you back one day and I want to talk
about Sofi Stadium concert design and somebody who's not not
a huge sports fan.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Right, Oh, no, I love sports.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
You do. What's your favorite sport?
Speaker 5 (46:20):
You can't? Yeah, football probably.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
I grew up with football and then yeah, and then
I worked at the NFL doing creative technology.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Yeah, I've sold to some football players. Javon Kinlaw who's
now on the Jets. He's a he's a defensive tackle.
He has a really big gorilla painting of mine. Jarvis Landry,
who's a multi pro bowler. I'm not sure what team
he's on right now. He has a really big painting
as well. And then I've also like consulted for some
NBA guys and.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, people, man, awesome out of Lundberg Man, good for you.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
It's so nice to meet you. This was a quick hour.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
And I Spencer can tell you I always the creative
construction Wisconsin for me because it's you know, it's not
in my wheelhouse. But this has been a great hour.
Thank you so much. Hey, guys, thank you Eron. It's
good to see you. Brian, it's good to meet you.
Keep drawing, man, Keep working in the media, right, yeah,
you keep doing that. I have no idea what any
of that means. Keep doing the work, guys. Thanks for listening.
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This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on
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in the state of Wisconsin. So Bingo's taken the day
off and that's all right. He needs the day off
every once in a while. Representing Creative Construction Wisconsin. I've
got Aaron Anderson, Aaron.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Horria pretty good, Mike little cold, but yeah, there.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You'll be all right. How's the family doing great? Saw
a picture of your daughter on the horse and it
was great.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh she's addicted to it already, she really she is.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Man, that's just so awesome. We're also joined. Brian, is
it Hibbard?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You want you can move that microprone Brian? Howriy it's
first time I've met you. How long you've been with
Creative Construction.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Was I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I've been working there six years.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good for you, it's a good place to work. Yeah, yeah,
Aaron treats here. Okay, yeah he doesn't he does, all right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, how about Bengo, Zach, Sam Dev everybody's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
To It's a great Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's it's definitely a family owned company. And when you
talk to people that aren't actually part of their family,
they go, look, we feel like we're part of this
family at this point.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So good for you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So every week, guys, when for this show, I talk
about things I don't know a ton about. Right, I've
done enough with with guys that do you know roofs
and plumbing and electrical and h fact that I can
ask some questions. But this week, Holy now I am
out of my comfort zone. But I'm excited because I've
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had the chance for the next thirty minutes to uh to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Talk to Autumn Ludberg.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
She is Autumn Lundberg Art and she is a a
an artist, a designer, all of that, and Creative Construction
did a great project for her and we asked her
to come in and talk a little bit about some
of the things that she does and this job that
Creative Construction, Wisconsin did. But I have to ask her
first of all, it's so nice to meet you. How
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are you?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Oh, it's great to meet you too. I'm honored to
be here with you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, you will ask you at the end of the
show you're still if you're still honored. And I'm going
to apologize up front for I may ask you some
questions that you just shake your head at because you're
talking to somebody that doesn't when it comes to music
and art, not really in my wheelhouse. And I'm excited though,
to talk to you about some of the things that
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you have and you are doing.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But I have to start with this. You were born
in Marshfield.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Grew up in a Rhinelander, Yes, and at eighteen decided
to call to Los Angeles. And as an eighteen year old,
do you want to talk about going opposite? You are
totally opposite. What was it like the first week when
you were in LA. Were you just like, oh my goodness,
what have I done?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
No? And I do think it was the young ignorance
of being out there.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
I was very excited. I knew that.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Art was really the only thing that I was naturally
good at. I'm a middle child. Both of my siblings
were going into medicine and super athletes and I just
was never an athlete and hated biology. I was not
dissecting any of the animals, and so art was, you know,
what I gravitated towards, and also just what I was
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always interested in, even as a kid.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
I always liked sculptures and stuff.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
And so going out to Los Angeles was, uh, it
wasn't too you know, over par for me.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Shall we say it was?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
When I worked in Los Angeles, I worked at a
CrossFit gym. I was a personal assistant to a musician
of the Black Eyed Peas. I was a personal assistant
to a photographer. I worked valet at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffle.
I mean, I worked at Zoomi's putting skateboards together. I
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had so many jobs that one I learned, I do
not want to work for someone else. That was established
pretty early on, was I, if I'm going to do this,
I need to put all of the energy that I'm
putting into being an assistant for this musician, and I
need to put that into myself.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Can we talk a little bit about the job that
creative construction?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh please, because that's kind of why you're here. I've
got a lot of questions for you on you know
how the whole LA thing and did that help you
as an artist?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Did it hurt you?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And I've got some questions as far as how you
see things kind of guy, And I say it on
the show a lot. When when you have Creative Construction
of Wisconsin come out to do work, I can't see
it before they're done. Right If I if I'm going
to paint a wall and I want to paint it green,
I can't see it by putting up three different greens
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right on the wall and figure it. I can't. I
have do not have that ability. And I think it's
a true gift to be able to see things before
they happen. And in your world you must see things
all the time before they happen. And I man, I
would love to have some of that. But this job
that Creative Construction Wisconsin did for you, I'm looking at
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pictures of it right now and it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
The ceiling was.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Fine, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
The ceiling that was fine.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Before we go right, you're about going opposite and move
the microphone to you a little bit erin if we can't.
But the ceiling was fine, and your client wanted the
ceiling not to be fine.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Well, so when I met with the client, we had
talked about doing something that combined the old with the new.
So her whole condo is supposed to kind of feel
like an abandoned Italian villa, and then she's filling it
with really modern finishes as far as furniture and sculptures
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and artwork, and so she has that balance of you know,
really gritty raw elements mixed with you know, a purple
velvet sofa and so on. And so when she mentioned
that she wanted to do a ceiling installation, I asked
if I could put together some concepts for her. And
as I was doing the ideation for the concepts, I
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somehow came up with this idea of doing a gaping
hole in her ceiling with that like the heavens crashing through.
And she collects a lot of crystals, and I also
have always loved rocks, and so I wanted to do
something with glass and clear quartz and make it so
that it almost looked like a deconstructed chandelier crashing through
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the ceilings, sort of resembling like the heavens crashing through.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
And so then one of the harder parts.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Was sketching out how I wanted the ceiling to look,
and I mean, honestly, I did not know how to
go about that part of the project. And I think
when I show people the project, that's the most impressive part.
The crystals are fun, the glass and the light in
the middle is fun, but the broken ceiling is really
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what makes it incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So Aaron, when you get noticed that you're going to
take a perfectly good ceiling and make it look like
something crashed through it. This is something you guys have
never done before, right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't think anybody's ever done. I mean mine and
Bingos first out the first time we met with him
was I mean, there's no way Brian's not doing this.
He's the only one that can wrap his head around
the concept because I mean, I'm I'm not an artist.
I could draw a pretty good star, right, Yeah, but
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that's it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I can tell you that Spencer had asked me. I said, look,
I'm going to be really uncomfortable with this. He goes, well,
can you paint and draw? And I made that? Yeah,
that the old three D that's it. That's all I've got.
My wife Terry can draw really well, and she teaches
Sunday School at our church, and she has for years.
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And there are things that she'll get that she can
use that she's not she doesn't like, and so she'll
draw the dog or she'll draw and she's very good
at it. I can't and she'll be like, can you help?
I can't help you. No, if it's numbered, I might
be able to help. So I love the fact that
you did. You were like that, Brian, if you could
grab the micro real quick when you got involved in
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this project. Do you have that that artist kind of
thought process?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I mean I took our classes in college, okay, and
I've had a art studio practice ever since, so I
kind of knew what.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh. So you had to be excited to get involved
in this project. Looking at the smile on your face,
very excited.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I hit the jackpot. I hit the jackpot. When I
met Bengo and the guys or you.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Guys came in, I said, why would why did you
think about creative construction Wisconsin? And you had said somebody
saw something.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
On their work.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, that made me think let's give them a Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Angela, the main designer for my client's condo. She uh,
she was I don't know how she found it, but
she was looking for broken ceiling pictures and she found
the one on the Creative Construction website and then reached
out to them and said, hey, can you recreate this
broken ceiling?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was actually a before picture of a closet that
it had fallen down. The ceiling had fallen down, and
then the guy never opened his closet for years, so
he opened it up and like, hey, I don't have
any plaster on my ceiling. And so that before the
before and after parts. Think that might have been the
first time we've gotten a job from a before picture.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So when they when they took out and and Brian,
when you took out part of the ceiling, was the
was the wood that that's what what you see underneath
the actual ceiling? Correct, No, oh, it's not okay. So
what was actually underneath there when you started taking the
plaster out?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, we did it all as new construction, right, So
the ceiling was designed for this whole.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Installation, so it was it's a drop ceiling and it
was actually concrete, so the whole thing was concrete. So
we actually had another team come in first and they
did the oak floor portion of the ceiling, which is
the more center portion, and then the creative construction team
came in and they did the lath and the plaster,
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which arguably is the more dramatic portion of the installation
because it's the most exposed. But so we were a
little lucky to have the oak floor already in place
and kind of giving the creative construction team a guideline.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Was that part of your design as well, the oak party? Yeah,
so you could before you as you started to design this,
did you see this before it happened?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
So when I was drawing it out, I knew that
I just wanted it to look very layered, and so
in my original concept sketch, I had a darker wood
floor in the center where the hole is, and then
I had a second layer of a wood floor on
top of that, which was like the lath, and then
the plaster on top of that. So I wanted like
a three tier broken visual just to give it that
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depth that it really looked like there were layers to
this home. And and it wasn't just you know, a
plaster ceiling that had broken through.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
It was like a really old building.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And and so I had a concept sketch that I
was showing the different construction teams and carpenter teams, and
you know that I think gave us a nice little blueprint.
And I mean that's probably one of the more impressive
parts of this project is when I show people the
concept sketch and then when I show them the final image,
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they're like mind blown because it's so spot on. And
I can't thank you guys enough, because I just know
that if the the if your portion of the ceiling
didn't turn out the way that it did, theole the whole.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Installation would have just it wouldn't have the same integrity
that it does.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There is there a light, Yeah, there is, so that
the picture that I see is during the day and
she's just got I mean, the windows are incredible. It
hurts that the view is incredible. And then at this
flights up exact.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, I have pictures if you want to feel Yeah,
during the.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Break, I definitely want to see that because I think
that that gives it a whole different feel. Right, is
it real bright or is it it is?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
So there's a pendant chandelier in the center, so it's
irregular faceted glass pendents and they're about the size of
a softball almost, But like I said, they're all faceted
and they're all different, and so they blend in with
the different glass and crystal pieces. And then when you
turn that the chandelier on, actually all of the you know,
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clear and opaque elements around it are then illuminated, and
so the whole installation looks like it's lit. So the
whole installation looks like a chandelier, even though the only
light sources is in the center from probably I think
there's maybe twelve to fifteen light sources.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I have a favor to ask, can you post these
pictures on your website?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I would like that because because as we tell people,
and there's a number of ways to find out more
about you, what is the best way for us to
promote I've got your website here, but if you just
if you google her, it's automn Lundberg l u N
d b e RG Autumn Lundberg Art. There's a number
of ways to see some of the work that you've done.
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But I can send people to your website. I think
by googling you you can see all the different platforms
that they can find. So I would google her again.
Autumn Lundberg. Autumn Lundberg Art is the name of this company,
and I'm telling you it's impressive. First of all, your
dog is a big part of Yeah, you love that dog.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
She's been with me. I got her on when she
was three months old. I was out in Los Angeles.
She's from Compton, straight out of Compton, right out of
ken She has been there with me through every art
studio I've ever had, the small little ten by ten rooms,
and when I've worked out in my living room and
my bedroom, and anytime I put a tarp, she's like, Oh,
that's my new spot, Autumn.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
If I would have talked to eighteen years, if I
could go back and talk to eighteen year old Autumn
a couple of weeks after she got into LA and
said to you, Hey, in fifteen years, you're gonna be
in the radio station with me and we're gonna be
talking about this company that you've built in these projects.
And the second Hey, the second segment today, I'm gonna
talk to you about what you did last night and
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we're gonna talk sports. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you off
the air of my Michael Jordan's story by day Okay,
I try not to tell too many people that story
because I don't it doesn't go well for me. But
we'll talk some sports in the second segment and some
things that you've done.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But if I went back and talked to eighteen.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Year old who was leaving Ryan Lander to go to
la and say, listen, fifteen years here's where you're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Living in the Milwaukee area and you're gonna be doing this,
what would you have said to me?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I think I would have been most surprised that I
would be back in Milwaukee. I think everything else I
would have thought, yeah, that checks out. But as far
as you know, being back in Milwaukee, that was something
that kind of just you know, came like after the fact,
because I wanted to be close to family and I
want to be back in nature. If I'm being honest,
you know, the city is just like it's a lot
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of a lot of concrete, and I found myself just
wanting to escape. But no, I mean honestly, like I
could cry, like I am so proud of myself for
just doing the work, for really putting the energy in
and doing the work and being a good person, and
every single part of my journey is from the organic
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connections that I made along the way. And I tell
people when I talk to the class at myad the
Milwaukee and Steuw of Art and Design, and the first
thing I tell them is, you have to be a
good person because the you know, whatever you believe in
the universe, God, just anything, you know, you have to
find yourself in the right place at the right time.
And that is not something that you can do for yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think people are times in the right place at
the right time and they don't recognize it. Yeah, and
then a year, a month, a year, two years, six
years later you go, oh, my goodness, that's why I
was there.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Didn't take advantage of that last question.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Before we get to a break.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
On my high school show, we have the Creative I'm sorry,
the Kernel Electric Superhero the week. So every week we
bring in a high school senior and it doesn't have
to be involved in sports. Somebody acquires somebody in the
art room, with somebody that does great work in the classroom,
very active in the school. It gives back to our
community and ask him this question. I'm going to ask
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you your motivation for having that servant leadership heart that
you have. It's not something we're born with. It's a
learned behavior. And where do you think you got that from?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
From being out in the woods and talking to the animals,
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
That's the first time anybody answered that question that way, really,
So that's you think. And as far as having that
that be a good person heart, it came from your upbringing.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah, it definitely came from me. You know, literally seeing
a little fawn and you know, wanting the best for it.
Seeing you know, we would find we had wild cats
and they would go out and they would bring back
little baby rabbits, and so then we'd care for the
baby rabbit and we bring it to this you know,
wildlife sanctuary and then you know, you just you start
to develop a care for for your environment and the animals.
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And and I remember being a kid and talking to
the bees. And it's so silly when you think about it,
but you know, people who have animals and care for
animals are typically really good people, especially with other people
and children.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Don't watch the movie is it Bambi? Gosh, don't you
don't do it?
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Kidding me? Like every Disney movie from from my childhood
is so traumatic.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Fox in the.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Hounds, they're all traumatic, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing that,
you know, for people that watch that, like like I did,
and we were fine. We're fine. In studio with me
representing Creative Construction Wisconsin, Aaron Anderson, Brian Hibbert and Brian
we're going to get more into the art side of
this in the third segment with you and I want
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to kind of pick your brain with that our special guest.
And again I would google her because that her website
is great.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
But if you google her, there's.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Six or seven or eight different ways to reach out
to see some of the work that she has done.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
She is Autumn Lundberg.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's l u n d b E rg b E
rg Lundberg Autumn Lundberg Art. And you're going to be
really impressed with and I call her very she's really
young to me. With the work that this young woman
has done for a number of clients, She's got a
lot of cool things going on. Right now, we're going
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to talk about her being the next artist in resident
at Ascent. And I didn't know what that was. I
old somebody at a lunch that I was at when
they said, hey, who do you have on the Creative
Construction on the Home Improvement Show and I go, oh boy,
I'm not in my element on this one. And I
told him about you and they said, oh, that building
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is right down the block.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So I throve by it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. We're also going to talk
about this part. She was at a meeting last night,
at an event last night, the Michael Jordan brand. They're
coming out with a new woman's Jordan. She was correct,
yeap what and you were there and we're going to
find out on the other side of break.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
While you were there.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't want to have us start talking about that
until the other side. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin
Home Improvement Show on the Big nine twenty and your
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Hitting and Cooling studios in studio Creative Construction Wisconsin Boys,
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Aaron Anderson and Brian Herebert. Hey, Aaron, tell me about
business right now. You guys are still outside a little
bit right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We're pushing outside really hard. I've got a really big
project on North Ave and Tosa, doing an outside of
a coffee shop and trying to push that hopefully finish
it before winter sets in. But I mean not looking likely.
That's a lot of it's a lot of muddle on
the walls.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Hey, I love the fact that you guys are busy
enough that you're hiring. And I know that Sam had
sent me some information we've got we have a commercial
errand right now about you guys are hiring a laborer
and you guys are training and uh, there's information on
there on your website call Creative Construction dot com about this,
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and and I love the fact that that in that
that commercial experience would be great but not necessary.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You guys are willing to train.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm absolutely willing to train. Not a whole lot of
people to do traditional stuff going plast year so right,
experienced people are hard to find.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And as a laborer, I mean, what I want is
for people to understand that this isn't don't think of
this as a job.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
This is a career.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You guys, you guys are you know, Bride's been there
a long time, Zach, you know, everybody's worked at Creative Construction.
When they get there, they realize what a great company
it is and they stay. And I want people to
think about this as a career. What does a typical
laborer do for you guys?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh, they help us get set up. I mean they're
not doing it alone. I can't do that. They'll help
us set up cover. And then typically they're mixing, which
a lot of people don't like, but it's the most
important part of the job. Because they're mixing the mud wrong,
I can't put it on the walls and that delays it.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So Yeah, and talk about the pride that the people
that come work for Creative Construction.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Scoon' said.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Listen, you know, we have Autumn Lumberg in studio and
she's an artist and when you go to when you
google her, you'll see some of the work she does.
And this job that you guys did for her is
not the usual type of work. But man, how fun
to be able to do something. It showcased this this
wide variety of talent that you guys have working at
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Creative Construction Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean it was a great opportunity. And like
I said earlier, as soon as we mean Bingo saw
for the first time saw the concept, the first person
popped in my head was Brian, Like, we send him anytime.
If you've got a goofy texture on your wall or something,
We'll send him because he's I joke that he's the
only one patient enough in the company to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He might microphone over real quick.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So when when as an artist and somebody that works
at Creative Construction Wisconsin, you the patient's part of it
comes is natural for you.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, it comes from I'm doing art my whole life,
I guess send attention to detail and sitting down and
doing the work.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, Autumn, you're you're a very patient person. Yes, in
most aspects of your life. You don't mind going getting
on the freeway left lane guy going first five, or
your flash and go and get out of them for
a while.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
There is nothing well it compared to rhinelanders a lot,
but not compared to La.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The patients part of it you would agree with.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Which absolutely absolutely. I mean, it's it's all about the details.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I think that's what separates good work from from bad work,
no matter what you're creating, and even just the love
and attention and passion that you're putting into it. I mean,
you see it most often. I think in food you
can tell when someone creates, you know, something with love versus.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
When they're just whipping it together.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
And I think that also translates into, you know, the
creative construction.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Side, the art side, and I mean, really.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
With everything, you'll work with them again, won't you?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Oh my gosh, I'm I'm so grateful because now when
I show people the installation that done, because that is
the lane that I would love to stay in.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Now I have the tools to create these things.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
You know, I can reach out to you guys and
consult you and say, hey, you know what do you
think the best way to go about this would be?
I don't need to work with these incredible interior designers.
Shout out to Angela, who you know had she was
the head designer.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
She was great.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
But I'm not always going to have the luxury of
working with interior designers like her, and so to have,
you know, a team of carpenters who I trust is
I mean that changes everything for me.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I did.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I applied to do an installation at the Denver Airport.
It's a long shot, but if I get it, Just
so you guys know, we're hanging stuff back up and
we're all flying to Denver.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Ryan, you're going to have You're going to be in
Denver for about a month. I'm tealting And you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That, do you?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah. I've been there one time. My official had a
wedding in the mountains and there's something about being in
the mountains that is very good for your soul and
more for somebody like you, I think than me.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But there was it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Slowed me down for a minute, and the just the
pure beauty, the natural beauty was. The driving in the
mountains was not all that great, you know. I was
My wife was like, wow, look how highway look down and.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I'm like, no, there's no guard.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's scary.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Where I met?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Can we talk about where you were last night and
how you got involved with with the Michael Jordan thing?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
So okay, So last night they were doing a release
for the new women's air Jordan Eleven's called Bread Velvet,
and I was invited to be one of the eleven
female artists showing at this gallery space and celebration of
the release.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And so that was an.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Honor because they were really pulling in a lot of
local Chicago artists and I was the only artist from Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So yeah, how did I get Did.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You have to apply or how did that happen?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
So going back to just being a good person and
meeting people organically, I I met this gentleman named Kendall Hearns.
He's an art manager in Chicago. He manages some really
cool artists who I think are awesome. And I had
reached out to him and just set up a meeting
between him and I, and we actually have some people
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in common from an art show that I did back
in twenty seventeen out in Miami. And so, you know,
having people in common. And I said this last night,
it's a form of social currency. Because if I reach
out to you and I say, hey, I'm familiar with
your best friend, well you're going to look at me
entirely differently. And so when I'm reaching out to this
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art managers setting up a meeting, and he and I
already have a whole crew of people in common who
I know are some heavy hitters. You know, I was
It was almost just I was so old or he
was sold before we even met. And so he now
invites me to do really cool events and such.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
What did you did you show your work last night?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And how hard was it for you to pick what
pieces to bring with you?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well, it wasn't very hard because I make a lot
of large artwork and I asked, I said, what are
the size requirements?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And they said probably the smaller the better.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
And so one of my smaller pieces was forty inches
wide and forty eight inches tall and it's actually two
pieces put together, which is called a diptick.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And I can move that in my truck.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
And so when it comes to five by sixes, that's
a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I'm strapping the canvas.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
To the to the top of the bet of my truck,
and so to all the cars around me, it just
looks like I have a canvas floating on the bet
of my truck. Little do they know I have it
strapped down. But yeah, the bet of my truck is
is smaller than you know, the average bed, and so
for four feet wide, is as wide as I can go.
And but yeah, so I fit those pieces inside of
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my inside the truck was at.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
A gallery down in downtown Chicago.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
It was in Hyde Park. I'm not too familiar with Chicago,
but it is, you know, south of downtown a little bit.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
It was a it was an awesome space.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
They had a lot of like one of a kind
designer furniture that was paired with the artwork.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
And yeah, it was a it was a cool And you.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Have some air Jordan's in your car?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I do?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I did better say that somebody.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You'll come to the station and look for your car.
Get those bad boys.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
My first pair of air Jordan's eleven ever, I showed
my boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
He goes, are those elevens?
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And I just looked at him like, how do you
know what what number or what type of shoe this is?
But so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep him in
the box and they're just gonna kind of be a
little trophy for me.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Andre Andre you think no. So he's actually in Louisiana,
So he is.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He could be on the Iheartragio.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
He good, he could be.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
He could.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
So he's a professional skateboarder and tattoo artist. He's signed
to Young Money and so he's out at the Louisiana Fest,
which is Lil Wayne's festival in Louisiana.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
So he's out there with them.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You're speaking Spanish to me, Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
To teach you how to shoot a free throw? And
you know, Brian, I take it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I said that in Brian's or Aaron said, yeah, who
would be? She's going to teach me to draw, and
I'm going to teach you how to shoot a free throw.
And Aaron's like, yeah, yeah, you'll be able to teach
her to shoot a free throw. She you can't draw.
I shoot my artwork here on this piece of paper,
and I think you're right by the way the Lake Drive. Yeah,
art piece is beautiful.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Thank you? Yeah, my my Milwaukee inspired piece.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What inspired this?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
So?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Actually a long time ago, I was I was flying
out of Milwaukee and the airplane did a little loopy
loop around the city and I got to see a
point of view that I had never seen before, and
it was of the harbor off of Lake Drive, but
right by that collectible on the lake. And so I
was just taking a ton of pictures and I knew
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one day I want to make a piece inspired by this.
And then I went out one night and I do
not ever go out ever, and the one time I
went out, I ran into someone. I ran into a
friend and he's like, you know, Autumn, I really want
to get a painting, which is Brian knows every anytime
you run into a friend, they're like, oh, I really
want a painting, and you're like, okay, but no, he
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actually venmoed me on the spot for the painting. He
sent me a lot of money on the spot for
the painting and he said, you know, I wanted to
be a Milwaukee inspired piece, and so yeah, that was
I should go out more often, I guess I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I ask people that come into this show, how early
in the process do you talk budgets? And so as
an artist, I think it's probably something you have to
have a conversation with people very quickly in the conversation,
and are people comfortable with giving you the true budget?
So with home improvement, if they have ten thousand dollars,
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they're going to say I have seventy five hundred because
they're afraid if they tell you, you're going to spend the
whole ten And I think that just slows the process down.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Just be honest with people.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
How early in the process do you have to have
that budget talk with people?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Tell them immediately, I say, I charge by the square inch,
and I have an equation, and if you know what
size piece you want, we can do the math right here.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh that's awesome, that's great. Do you think other artists
is that how they work as well?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Not typically. I mean some people do.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
But it is a piece of advice that I give
to emerging artists because I think it's uncomfortable to tell
people prices because it feels almost a little bit emotional.
And when you can just create a equation for it. Oh,
you want abstract piece, that's a dollar per square inch.
You want something more figurative that's two dollars a square inch.
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You want something glass, And then as the years go by,
you can up that last year I was a dollar
per square inch. This isn't real, But like you say,
last year I was this much per square inch, and
this year you go.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Up fifty cents per square Inche have two.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
And what you're really doing, I mean that's actually a
significant amount. You know, one dollar per squareanch, two dollars
per square inch. That's double, that's double what you charge.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Did do you ever think that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Look, sometimes so I get asked to go out and
speak a lot, and I'll ask you have a budget yep,
And I'll say, well what is the budget? Well, how
much do you charge? Or what is theta? And sometimes
I don't ask for I'll throw out a number and
then they go right away, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm thinking, ah, you know, maybe I should have asked
for a little bit more, And I think probably with
you do you feel that way? And two do you
ever do a piece for somebody and you just don't
want it?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
You love it so much you want to keep it.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Oh my gosh. That let's start there. That's my biggest problem.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
But actually when I make a personal piece and then
I lift it for sale, that's harder for me. Most
of the time I decide it's actually not for sale
and I end up keeping it okay. But when I
know I'm making something for someone, it's a little bit
easier to let.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Go of it.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
The piece that I made actually for the client who
also got the ceiling installation. I loved that piece. The
field of Guardians piece in the bedroom. I don't know
if you guys saw it, YEA moved the microphone over it,
so can I.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Before you go on, when you get a chance to
see some of this work. And I've been to your house, right,
and I love your house. It's like one of my
favorite houses I've ever been to. But it's different than
some of the the I'm sure some of the spaces
that Autumn works in. Right, Yours is an old farmhouse
that was built.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And we're thinking eighteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And yeah, it's it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's just a cool place to be that the art
that I think that Autumn does might be for. When
I see her work, I think of high rises and
really big, big homes in Fox Point and people, are
you able to see some of this work and just.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Completely respect the work it is?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I don't know some of the pieces I've seen that
she's done if they'd fit in my condo, And I
don't know if they would fit in the artwork that
you guys have in your house, But boy, I can
certainly appreciate the kind of work that she does.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I'm sure you do too.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh yeah, I mean all of the work I've seen
of hers the condo. Granted, the condo is the only
spot I've been where I've seen it installed in person,
and her artwork fits perfectly and with it, and I
think that means. That's got to mean you're good at
adjustin what you're doing for the particular client.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
YEA.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like, I'm sure if she came to my house or
your house and I told her to like make me something,
I'm sure she would look at look out over the
pasture and the old barn and the general.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible. I have to be honest with you.
We got to get to a break. I want to
talk a little bit, Autumn about what you're going to
start December first, and what that means. I don't know
what an artist in residence is, and so I'm going
to ask you about that. Guys, I look, do yourself
a favor and google her. She is Autumn Lundberg. It's
(36:36):
l u n D b e r G Autumn Lunberg Art.
Take a look at her website, take a look at
some of the stuff that she does. There's a number
of ways to get in contact with her. And I
just think some of the things she does is incredible.
She's changing lives and I think she does know that.
But the kind of things that she does, I think
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people are going to be, you know, talking about for
years to come. And I think that that's such a
The legacy that she leaves with the work that she
does is really quite incredible. Again, Autumn Lundberg, go to
Autumn Lundberg Art and take a look at some of
her work. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement
show on the Big nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app.
(37:19):
You shoring the Big nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app.
Coming from the Donovan and Jorgensen Headen and Coolian Studios.
I'm joined in studio from with Aaron Anderson, Brian Hebberd
from a Creative Construction of Wisconsin and our special guest man.
We could I can't believe I'm going to say this.
We could do three hours with her. And Spencer's kind
of laughing because at about seven thirty I said, I
(37:42):
don't know if I'm going to be able to do
an hour on art.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You are phenomenal, young lady.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I got to tell you, Autumn Lundberg Autumn Lundberg Art.
Google that and I could give you her websites the
first thing that pops up. But there's six, seven, eight
different ways that you can find out more about Autumn.
She's very active. You're active on social definitely.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
I have I have a TikTok, I have Instagram, and
on both of those platforms, I have videos and pictures
of the process of this installation. And you know me
talking in the background explaining and where do.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You do your work? Do you have a studio and
that you go to every day? Do you have are
you able to turn your work mind off when you
leave the studio or are you always looking at things
around you trying to get inspiration.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's it's constant, and I don't even think it's you
have to try at a certain point. You have so
many sketch books full of ideas and so many pictures
in your phone of different color combinations that you see
around town or out in nature that when someone comes
to you and they say, oh, I kind of want
a painting and I want it to be read, I
(38:52):
can say, okay, do you want to hear all of
my red painting ideas?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Because I have about sixteen of them. So, you know,
you kind of.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Build up this like sketch book portfolio, just rotating, just constant.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Hey, so starting December first, you're going to be the
new artist in resident at a cent Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
So actually this hasn't been announced yet, so this is
no I mean, listen, I put it in the notes.
I said we could talk about it, but I just
want to let everybody know this is brand new information.
I have not announced it on my social media. It
has not been announced through Ascent, but the contract has
been signed. And so A Cent is Timber high rise
in downtown Milwaukee. It was built in the last couple
(39:36):
of years and for a short period of time it
was the tallest timber building in the world.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Very short period of time. I think they got their past. Yeah,
so they.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Were, but they made it.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
They did what.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
They did, and it's a it's a gorgeous building, very modern,
and so they have an artists and resident program, which
basically means you just use their studio space, and so
I'll be split time between my studio space and River
West and their studio space, which is on their twenty
fifth floor. It has gorgeous views of the lake and
(40:11):
I mean it's essentially like three hundred and sixty degree views.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I find their website.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Now, and with the work you do there, could you
just get me one of those condos for a couple
of years. Just say, hey, my new friend Mike mcgivertt
needs to have my wife, and I I will try.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I will try to pull all the strings.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I will not hold my breath for that. These apartments
are and condos are beautiful. Yeah, they're absolutely gorgeous. And
then you will be there and is it just for
people from the building or can ever people come?
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Basically, you know, you're kind of like their live entertainment,
like the live music. You sort of feel like you're
in a little fish bowl as people walk past and
they're watching you sketch or watching you, you know, paint,
and that will be something very different than what I
I'm used to because I tell people I am not
a live painter. That's not my forte. I take a
(41:06):
lot of time to make what I do, and it's
you know, all the processes are always different depending on
the piece, and so sometimes I think it is fun
to watch and other times it's probably super boring. But
the good news or the good part about working up
at a cent is that I can create some of
my hours. So if I want to go up there
from eight am to ten am when there aren't many
(41:27):
people around, I can do that. And then maybe when
a piece is further along and I want them to
see it, then I'll come up during their you know,
the rush hour of the amenity space.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Did you think you'll have.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
You'll have jobs or will you be doing things that
you will then put out for sale.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
I have some personal pieces that I want to make,
and I last night. I was also invited to be
a part of the Chicago Expo in April, which is
essentially like you know, Art Basle of Chicago, and Art
Basil is like fashion Week of the art world. So
it's like fashion week for the art world in Chicago,
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and that's in April. And I was invited to be
a part of of their their show with the people
I was with last night, and and I told them,
I said, I'm gonna have a bunch of new pieces
ready to show. And so some of the some of
the work that I make will just be hung at
Assent and will be for sale, and other pieces won't
be for sale and they'll be my personal pieces.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
And yeah, I mean some of those, Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
So I love the fact when I said last segment,
you would work with Creative Construction again, and you said.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And I really like that because on this show and
it's sponsored by Creative Construction Wiscotts and it's their show.
And the people that we have come in are normally
you know again, guys that that that that do their
your roof or they redo your kitchen or they do
a number of things where they're always saying to me, look,
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they're the boss. Creative Construction Wisconsin is the best company
that we work with when it comes to what we
need with this. And then to have somebody so far
outside of that element saying the same thing, I think
they they got to feel awfully good about the work
that they didn't and and I know that Brian. If
we can move the microphone over to Brian, Brian, if
(43:20):
you could do more work with people like Autumn that
would that? Would you'd be okay with that, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah? It was definitely probably the most fun project we
did for the company.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
But when you when you're what kind of art do
you do?
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I do mostly paintings and like collage, mixed media like stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
You have mixed media on your website.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I don't know what that means. Could you explain that?
For me?
Speaker 5 (43:49):
It means anything that makes the color goes.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Brian's laughing at me. I told you I was gonna
answer dickulous questions. He's like, Man, it's mixed media. You
know what, I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I marker, paint, tar, makeup.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Different medias, mixing anything.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
What are you most comfortable with?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I use acrylic pants mostly, okay? And what kind of
you your mind's all.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
I'm most comfortable with just taking risks.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Well, you see what you did with that ceiling. That's
taking a risk. And then hey, the process.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
If somebody were to contact you, say next week, and
say I have this, I want to hire you, and
they agree with what the price is, what's the how
much time?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I mean, of course it depends on the project. It
depends on the scale of the project. But you know
I so I have a degree in industrial design and
that has really informed my uh communication and deliverables that
I that I have with my client. And so I
will meet with the client, we talk about what their
goals are, what they want for their space, and then
(44:59):
I go back into my studio, I create a handful
of concepts and we just go back and forth then
until we agree on something, and it's really like a
collaboration between me and that client. And then from there
I typically quote four to six weeks, but you know
for a big installation, it could be four to eight weeks.
And also that is where I would then consult the
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creative construction team and ask them, Hey, as far as
you know, creating the structure of this, how long would
that take? As far as creating you know, the lath
and the plaster, what do you guys think about that?
And yeah, so it just becomes like a conversation.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Really, family's proud of you, aren't they They are they
are they have to be so proud of you. And
I hope i'll get you a copy of this show. Oh,
I'll send it over to Bengo and Salmon, they'll send it.
Please have the people and Ryan Landers you still have
family there. Oh yeah, yeah, send it up to them.
They got to be so so proud. She is Autumn Lundberg.
(45:56):
Go to Autumn Lundeberg Art. It's l u N D
b e Erg. Just google her and you will be
amazed at the work that this this scale does. We
didn't get into sports a whole lot. We're going to
have you back one day and I want to talk
about Sofi Stadium concert design and somebody who's not not
a huge sports fan.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Right, Oh, no, I love sports.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
You do. What's your favorite sport?
Speaker 5 (46:20):
You can't? Yeah, football probably.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
I grew up with football and then yeah, and then
I worked at the NFL doing creative technology.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Yeah, I've sold to some football players. Javon Kinlaw who's
now on the Jets. He's a he's a defensive tackle.
He has a really big gorilla painting of mine. Jarvis Landry,
who's a multi pro bowler. I'm not sure what team
he's on right now. He has a really big painting
as well. And then I've also like consulted for some
NBA guys and.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, people, man, awesome out of Lundberg Man, good for you.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
It's so nice to meet you. This was a quick hour.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
And I Spencer can tell you I always the creative
construction Wisconsin for me because it's you know, it's not
in my wheelhouse. But this has been a great hour.
Thank you so much. Hey, guys, thank you Eron. It's
good to see you. Brian, it's good to meet you.
Keep drawing, man, Keep working in the media, right, yeah,
you keep doing that. I have no idea what any
of that means. Keep doing the work, guys. Thanks for listening.
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