November 30, 2024 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeartRadio app coming
live from the Donovan and Jorganson Heating and Cooling Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Any issues you're having, you had to turn that furnace
down now, any issues you're having, go to Donovan Jorganston
dot com and trust me, they'll take good care of you.
Alongside is Bingo Emmons. He is the owner of Creative
Construction Wisconsin. Happy Thanksgiving, Yeah, be Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That went good. That went good.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I thought maybe you'd bring some leftovers from me and Randy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know, I thought about it, but I for you
guys all have your own left doors, not anymore. I
was like, that speaks some one of that Piet. He's like,
it's Thanksgiving. Everybody's full because she's full. Now we all
gotta be full.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How was their birthday that you had brought up? Good?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, you brought it up. I just want to go back.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, one week getting we did a surprise birthday for
her on Tuesday, So she was upset about that. Not
only that is like like Sam's like calling me and said, hey,
you know, she's changing her clothes, like she's getting ready
for bed. He says, we should tell her, you know, surprised.
I said, you know what, I really want to be surprised.
Oh yeah, she was surprised. She was like getting ready
for bed when they all show it up.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So I'm glad that some one knocking on the door.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
She's all right, and she's like, you know, so you
know the in laws came over and she's like that
there's only tip of the iceberg. She said, what I said,
you might want to change. She was really so then
she's some more worried about her appearance and then didn't
care about it. Stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, I'm glad you had a good time.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Is Donovan Durgons sees her and putting in some overtime
right now, trying to keep up with this.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, and I'll tell you what that that maintenance program
for me and and I and I said this before
I bought it for us, and then I bought it
for my son Matthew. And Matthew then tells his sister,
who goes, hey, what about us, So all of us
have it and they come out twice a year. They
were out by us, I don't know, six weeks ago,
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just making sure the furnace is ready to go.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I think i'd be busy today. Oh today, because I
don't know the spencer I got the dump button because
when I walked out to the truck this one, I
was like.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's cold.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, it was cold.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know, the dump button doesn't work. So let's stay
away from that. Our special guest today and he's just
hanging out, just kind of walked in and I said, boy,
I hope we can talk some insulation today. He said absolutely.
He is Randy Miller. He's the owner of all Right
Home Remodeling and Seny Insallation. How you been I've been great.
How about yourself? It's good to see you.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You know what, we always just have a nice relaxed
time when we end up talking, but good information ends
up coming out.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Of and there. You know, there are there are certain
people that come in that I have to do a
ton of research on, you know, just to make sure
that I asked questions and and try to keep the
conversation flowing.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah that when you Yeah, between the three of us,
there's been so much research that has been done between
all of us working together or the different activities that
we've had. Well, I had the golf that I've beaten
you at. You know all of that a lot of people,
But hold on, I got coming in with a vengeance, Randy.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I am so hooked on this thing. I'm telling you.
When the a couple of weeks ago, I was out
at Songbird three times by myself, hitting three balls on
each shot I've I've been. Of course, you get there ball.
Guess who I'm taking a few lessons from Michael Grossman.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Isn't that awesome? I actually saw him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I just enjoyed this young man. He is such a
passion to teach people. And I just called him by
the blue and said, look, I'm really getting into it.
My goal is to break fifty this year, right, And
he said, okay, that's a good goal. I said, yeah,
I've been to fifty two, fifty three, sure, and I
hit fifty twice. But I and I could tell you
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the putts I missed to get to forty nine, and
they still stick in my crawl. Right. But I've been
working with Michael a little bit and films that I
didn't realize. I come straight down and I got to
figure out the shell. All the all the videos in
the world can't get me to learn how to shallow
the club and all that. However, I'll play next year.
(04:13):
You and me, baby, bring it baby, you and me,
let's go and then we'll really have something to talk
about it. Before we talk installation, I have to say
thank you to you. Speaking of my daughter Katie and
son in law John and these four grandsons. They had
some hail damage and said, what you know, we need
to talk to somebody. Is it okay with you? If
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we give Randy a call, you go one hundred percent.
He would be the guy. He's been at your house,
he's done a lot of work at your house. He
would be the guy. And they tried to figure out
all the information that they needed for insurance and all that.
And you came over and said, okay, let me step
you through it. And then not only the work, but
the knowledge that you gave them just set them at ease, like, okay,
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we He's gonna be able to step us through. It's
so I thank you. You know, these they call me
all the time, Randy, and I just said, say called Bingo,
call Zach, called dev called Sam, Or call Randy right,
called Jesse, called Jason. Call the people that are in
their circle that you have.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
All nary people, phenomenal excellent contractors.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, And I wish that I could go out Howard.
Howard's been you know, Royal Chimney's been out there a
bunch of times to both Katie and Matthew's house. And
it's kind of like, oh, now, you guys can help
me with this. They want to you know, their driveway
right where the basketball hoop and the camper.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
In a basketball hoop. That's surprising, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And I can't teach those boys to go left. They
won't listen to me. They're like, he's old, he's our poppy.
He doesn't know anything about basketball. I do a little.
I coached a little. But they want to take that
driveway and expand it going towards going to words Capital drive.
Who do we Who do I talk to for that? Well?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know that's that you know best at. Yeah, he's
been on the show. He's a you can't meet him,
a nicer player. He's I'm not gonna say, polite concrete guy.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah that's who you know what that that you're right?
He was a great guy.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh yeah, that's why he doesn't he doesn't advertise anything.
And I ran him to him. I ran ran to
him through Narry. That's why I got him, and then U.
We've been using him ever since then for the last
you know, five years. He's just he's just been a
great guy. I usually don't kind of I don't want
to tell too many people about this guy. I don't
feel like, give me the top mat service. He's even
doing zax Holls.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, so that's who. If he's listening, I'm telling you,
I'll be calling you. Because in springtime, we we got
Terry new car over at Mike you knowos Brookfield Buick GMC,
who sponsors all of our shows, and went over and
to Bryan Juno and and now for a while. And
what happened was she took my card, like to go
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to the grocery store. And she's like, you can be home.
I go, yeah, she goes, and I just take your car.
I said, sure. She came home. She goes, I really
like your car. I said, thanks. She goes, can I
have it? I go, what can I have it? I go?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Who asked? Sobody? Can I have your car? And you know,
I thought we're going to jab back and forth a little.
She threw a haymaker. Well, I have the grandkids. I
drive the grand kids a lot more than you do.
And your car. I feel much safer in your car.
And I thought you threw the atomic bomb right.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Away to go Terry.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well then I go see Brian and I go, okay,
you can have mine, but then you know, I'll have
to get a new one. And I this Envision's really nice.
So I took it. I drove it home and I said, hey,
I think this is the one I'll get. You want
you want to go in it? She goes yeah, So
she drove it. She's like, I don't want your car anymore.
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I want this one. And I said this isn't working
out for me, and she goes, well what do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I go, you should have got a big pickup truck
that want to solve that problem?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, and on the showroom floor there's this big giant
hummer and I go, take a picture of me by
this and I'll send it to show never drive this thing.
And so now she's driving it. And we gave the
Sonata to Katie because Keegan's fifteen, right, could it be sure? Well?
(08:23):
I said, look at I'm gonna sell it to you.
I want a dollar and a half for it, but
I want tax to so dollar eighty. Well, they told
Kegan you're gonna have to start paying for that car.
And I go, did they tell you how much I'm
charging him? He said no, I said a dollar eighty
you offered me two bucks. I'll sell it directly to you.
He started laughing. He was in the new car, and
(08:45):
he goes, can I have this one for two bucks?
And I was like, no, wait, what people are asking
a lot?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Man?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I know Christmas right, because Grandpa, I know what your husband.
You know, you were the last one in line.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
The last one in line, and these are my grandsons.
Whatever they want, for sure, How is your grandson doing?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
My grandson's doing pretty good. He's had a few bouts
with health issues.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm sorry, what's going on? Is he all right?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, he's dealing with.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He'll be fine. Okay, let me just put it that way.
He'll be fine good, I hope, so and praying for him.
Talk about SNY Installation. I know that all right, Home
Remodeling is the company, correct, and SNY Insallation is under
that umbrella. But I've got to believe right now that
you guys with insulation really busy.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Insulation is really really strong at this time of the year,
especially with some of the different programs that are going on,
both through focus on energy, the federal funds that are
out there for the Inflation Reduction Act. But realistically, as
soon as this weather ends changing, homeowners start to think
about the insulation situation where during the summer months they're
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really not there to consider it nearly as much as
they are right now.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Wouldn't it be that would be the best time, wouldn't
it like like in the summertime, because then we can
kind of take our time, you can do what you do,
and we don't. But but when somebody calls you, now
it's just look, I'm feeling drafts all the way through.
By the way, do you work, Do you work in
condos at all?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right, because I am ours is a little drafty,
I think, well, and do you have your garage downstairs? Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Okay, so nothing is even worse than the cold that's
coming in from the garage to that upper.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Level right and my office is right above the garage,
so I've got that space heater and that helps a lot.
But the the the condo feels drafting, and we've got
a fireplace, and Terry loves to have the fireplace and
that keeps it nice and warm. But it just feels
a little drafting. I didn't know how much work you
guys didn't cond Terry call me. Yeah, you know what,
(11:02):
we'll do a commercial that. Like Zach said, she's got
Zack God's speed dial because when I try a little,
you know I can do this.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I've watched videos big sheets and gloom to the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I could do this. And she's got Zack godspeed down
and says, hey, Michael's trying to project do on his own.
Get ready because he'll be calling you or I'll be calling.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
We got We've been getting a lot of customers lately.
Is when people will you see spray foam out of
people pickle the holes and you go behind your TV
set and you try to blow it in right, and
then they don't realize that that expanded. It expands and
it blows in and it goes into the living room
and then then they're gonna transclaim. And that's what we
have the problem.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
What is the best the best installation? And is there
a go to for you that you guys used you
use the phone to use.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Well, I mean, we use every component that as much
as we can that's out there and available to us.
I mean we tried. I mean we use different products.
If we're gonna end up comparing cellulose to fiberglass, our
preference for insulating of an attic is more so the cellulose.
We think it's actually a better product. It's also healthier.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I agree with that. Just when you say the word fiberglass,
I start getting itchy.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, he starts right, what's your sut?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And fiberglass actually works with airflow, so if you start
compressing fiberglass, that becomes a problem. It doesn't actually have
the same insulated value. But we do end up doing
quite a bit with close cell spray foam as well.
And there's a difference between close cell and open cell. Now,
the one thing we will not do is blindly put
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in uh spray foam into like walls or cavities that
we can't actually see what we're installing it into or
the areas. And the reason is it could cause voids
and make it even more proper lematic for the homeowner.
It's so that's the reason why. But yeah, we use
all three major components.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And you and you had that conversation with the homeowner
to say, look, this would be our preference. However this
is available price wise. Is there a big difference.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
When you're talking about close L spray pham. Yes, and
substantially more expensive, but you're getting a better our value
per wrench.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good good question, because that's one of my questions. Could
you get any could you explain our value to not
to me, of course, but to the people listening.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yes, because he knows exactly what our value and you
value as right, he knows. He just wants to see.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think it's a capacity of the insulating material to resist.
Oh yeah, can you tell that I happened that?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Otherwise in layman terms, it's the insulated value too.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, let's for let's well, I can tell you by
calling Randy Miller overright already he can. He can explain it,
explain our value, because that seems to be a question
that people no realist.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That's the insulated value to it, and that's the standards
that we end up looking at, like, for instance, in
an attic, the old standards you stand up being in
our thirty which was in the neighborhood of about ten
inches of insulation. Now in Wisconsin. Here we're looking at
more of an R fifty for the insulated attics, so
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big difference in comparison to old school.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But then you see those house with big cathedral ceilings.
In order to gain our value of the fifty or something,
you got to and you just that's what that's what
you do with the spray phams. You guys call it
hot roofs, and just there's a whole lot of world.
That's why you know, people just they always they watch
these TV shows and then you Okay, this is what
I can do. This is great for me because then
you know they always leak or the trap moisture. But air.
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I know Randy for a while. One of the first
things he did is actually came for my dad's house
and they say, we got insulation problem, or no, we
had a roof problem, and so what do you want
to do. He says, no, you got an air ceiling problem,
airbar and then the moist were getting aniatic, so we
thought it was a rough leak, you know, and we
were going to literally buy a new roof from him,
and he sold us a air ceiling which was way
cheaper and actually solve the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, I can tell you know, we're gonna get to
a break. But every time that I have you guys together,
I have to tell the first story. Right, We just
got done paying we were helping pay our kids college tuition.
Terry and I were at the kitchen table with our
spreadsheets and we had just gotten done with Matthew. Katie
had gone through Miranatha Baptist Bible College. Matthew had gone through,
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and like we were done, and we like high fived
and went to bed. And at three in the morning,
four in the morning, I heard something and it was
a storm. It was raining, and I go in the
kitchen and it's just dripping. There's water coming in from
our roof into the kitchen. And I thought, you know, lord,
I appreciate your patience. What's your sense of humor? That's
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not right that we just figured out we you know,
we're done with all these payments. I called you guy.
I called you about six am. By seven o'clock, you know,
you guys were out and putting tarp up there, and said, look,
you're gonna need a new roof. Your your your roof
is bad. I think there were three or four different
whatever it was, but it was bad and I said,
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what are we gonna do with the kitchen and you said, well,
call Bingo. That's he'll take care of that. And then
Bingo came out and I said, hey, Terry wants this
this ceiling fan out and he said, call Kernel Electric.
So look, you know, Kernel Electric has been all your
brod now with me for a while. Creative Construction Wisconsin.
Zach came out, did a great job, and then Currl
Electric came out put the windows, and then you came out,
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fixed the roof, did the siding, and uh yeah, it
was that. It kind of got the ball rolling on
of this whole thing. And you know, we we sat
at the kitchen table and the three of us picked
the colors, which is awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Excuse me anyway, let's get how many of us the colors.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Let's get to a break. There was greed in mind.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I got a green, Kelly green, that was the only
color you picked.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I got some green and didn't get the same green
that Terry wanted.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Though.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, I and I sat at the table.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
We talked about what is going to make the most sense, right,
and you guys were correct, because I'm telling you, even
when we were packing up to move people were still
walking by and going, hey, man, your house looks really good,
and yeah, the curb appeal was great, it was, and
how you did it? And the guy your crew that
came out, I told you this one hundred times. We
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did siding, we did that, We did the roof, and
somebody had started a kitty corner from us. They started
a roof project two weeks before you guys camp, and
two weeks after they still weren't done. And the guy
was mad at me, and I'm like, why are you
mad at me? Well, my guys that they're not even
showing up and they won't return my call and have you. Hey,
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it's all the nails that you really probably messed up
your lawnmower, right, And I'm like, no, I go, no,
he's got some deer with his guys that he comes out.
Randy Miller comes out. If he finds five or less,
ten or less, there you go. I always make it
better ten or less nails. He gives them a little bonus.
And the guy was mad at that, and I go,
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you should have gone, you should have called Randy. Do
you want his card? No, I've already paid these guys.
He paid him in full and it took him six
weeks to do a simple rough. It was a simple job.
They didn't have to tear it tear it out, They
just put it on top.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And those horror stories are out there so much. And
that's the reason why there is such a difference between
the professional companies and the non professional companies. And that's
the reason why I like being part of association like
NARY and the NBA and all of those, because there
is a little bit of a checks and balances. I'm
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not gonna say that we've never made errors, but it's
all about just the professionalism and handling it as best
possible in all scenarios.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Do you remember what a name event that was the
guy next door to me? Oh yeah, the guy down
the block.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
The professional next door want to end up teaching us
everything about what to do.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, he's not with us anymore. But I don't know
what time you'd have to start drinking. But you guys
got there at like eight o'clock, and at eight point
fifteen he came out and he was telling you guys
what to do and how to do it. And you
had two brothers that were working on your crew at
that time, and they were so entertaining to our neighborhood.
They were they were, you know, making fun of each other, laughing,
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throwing things that I mean, people enjoyed. Enjoyed there, the
way they worked together and how hard they worked from
literally sun up to sundown, and they got our house
done really quickly. But the comments that they had to
each other. We also did the roof on the on
the garage, which was I mean, it was just a
constant flow of water in that garage. So we need
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to get to a break. He is Randy Miller, and
we're going to continue to talk about s in the installation.
But all right, Home and Remodeling is the overall Unbrother company.
We'll talk a little bit about that, but I've got
a number of questions regarding home installation. We'll do that
on the other side of the break. This is the
Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine
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twenty and your iHeartRadio app. Welcome back to the Creative
Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine and
your iHeartRadio app. Coming live from the Donovan and Jorgans
and Heating and Cooling Studios. I'm Mike mcgiffern alongside Bingo Emmons.
He's the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin and Randy Miller,
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owner of all Right Homer Remodeling in S and E Installation.
You can check out his information all Right remodeling dot com.
All Right our it t e all right remodeling.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah. Whenever I'll pull something and he said, you spell
it wrong? It yeah, yeah, that's where you go, Okay,
how you spell it? All right?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Part I do. I can't give.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You teach me how to spell make a polist Bengal Edmunds.
I think you might have got my wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Well, you know, we gotta play with it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And Randy Miller, that's nice. That's that one I can
I can spell. Jeff Hey. So a question about installation
that that I got from a buddy of mine, the
answer should be no, because you don't know him like
I do. Can he install the Can he install insulation
by himself?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So the short answer obviously is sure, if somebody wants
to end up doing it as a d I Y,
you can't. But the biggest portion that you're actually missing
with it is it's just as important to verify that
your ventilation system is working well and the air ceiling
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is also important and most people forget about that portion
of it, and that's actually what's causing that airflow coming
into the attic. If you just add insulation, all you're
reducing is is all you're doing is reducing the amount
of space that's actually up in the attic, causing potentially
more problems as far as with condensation getting trapped inside there.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And one of my one of my we make a
lot of money because people do insulate themselves because if
they put insulation real thick, but what happens is the
moisture traps into the first few layers of insulation and
then then the pain starts peeling in the ceiling and
they don't realize that it was the air ceiling. You know,
that needs to be done by a professional that that
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what solve these problems, because they do. Is that's what
I do, is that's all I look at the ceiling
and so like you must have just had insulated in
the last couple of years, because yeah, how do you know,
because they trapped that moisture into the ceiling that used
to just blow through and go out.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So you do it yourself, it's got a chance to go.
If you cost you more, cause more problem at the end,
how does somebody know? Do you guys still do the
home energy audit one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
So that he's worse than he can he still even
when he does my health, I need you have an
energy odor first. I could just want to insulate round
he because no, you have energy ouder first, I just
want to insulate it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What I like about it is they don't have a
dog in the fight. No right, And if they come
out and do the home energy audit and say no,
this home is great, you walk away. It's good. But
but what I like is this is not you you
doing the audit and then selling somebody something correct exactly
you know?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I mean in so many scenarios, the energy auditor is
the insulation company, and the way the focus on Energy
program is actually established, they want a trade ally to
do the initial evaluation or the energy audit. They then
want to end up having a trade ally do the
insulation work, but they also want the auditor to verify
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that the work was done right. So if I end
up being all three components of it, where's the checks
and backlenses? And I've always been against that theory of
making it simple for the homeowner. Instead in my opinion, let's.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Do it the right way.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
That's like, if you have how many people do we
end up cringing about when they said they avoided home
inspections with that cree of the house?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Still cringe right, because you don't.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Know what you're actually missing until you actually do the
proper evaluation.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Do you know that my wife wouldn't even let us
put the house up until we got we we I
mean man Kuso came fixed some stuff. We had current
electricom fix it. So we basically had almost an audit
prior to even putting it up, or not an audit,
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but an inspection prior to putting it up. Because what
she didn't want to do is leave any of the
homeowners any issues that she would feel guilty about. I
was like, let's just put it up.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know, yay, I've been on them, you know, usually
put my inspector hat on whatever. I've been on the
other side of that, when people say, mister, you don't
und to stand. If we wouldn't have skipped in a
home inspection, there seven hundred people would have got the
house and they're stuck with thousands and thousands of dollars.
I mean, okay, was this worth thirty thousand to you
to skip a home inspector?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And that's just from my end of it had nothing
to do with the foundation that was slipping and all
the others, the waters in there, and it's just the
people I in real estate people you know, they're not
really as honest as you think they are.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, not a lot of them, and were careful with that.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You get a lot of business as far as with
the filters.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, and I name the ones that we know, we
know we're waking at y.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a few that aren't. Okay, there's a
few that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You get a little bit nervous with. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Just like anything in anybody's industry. You know there's good
and you know there's bad that's out there, and you
try and end up working with those that are.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And we'll talk about roof A lot of scam roofing companies.
They're in business for three years tops, and they change
your name and to come up with a different T
shirt and come in.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Some come in from out of state. When you know,
when there's storm's here, they come in and.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Look at a bobb We had out on a coon
walk with all those guys roofing companies. They're like, hey,
we're working right down the street someone else with some
names and you all get Illinois plates on.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, not good.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And that's scary when somebody asks you the benefits of
making sure the installation is is is correct and done properly.
When when somebody said, look, I'm not too worried about it.
I I've never checked it. I don't know if it's
correct or not, but I think we're doing fine. The
benefits of having insallation to to somebody.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Is what well.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I mean, obviously it saves on their heating bills and
their energy efficiencies all the way around. Second of all,
it's comfort that they'll end up had. I mean, the
more insulation that you end up having the envelope, which
is the warm portion of the house, the living space
actually then can be more comfortable. And if you've got
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the right type of airflow, it's allowing that to transfer
in and out in a healthier manner too.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And you can also over insulate, you know, is an
not a money maker for me. Yeah, there's people that
over insulate. They put it on soul thick and they
just theirs get so trapped.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Do you get much That's the reason why the airflow
is so vital, just to making sure that that's actually working.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Do you get much business with with new new builds?
Because when I know, a couple of weeks ago, we're
talking about Zach and you were talking about how in
some of these new houses they they don't do anything
in the basement. Sure, right, right, you buy the house
and then you've got to have the basement done. How
do you do much business with new homes?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I mean, like what you're referencing in the basement. Typically
the first spot that should insulated well is the sillboxes
and that's at the top of the block or the
poored basement where the joyste actually or come across. And
then in those areas are where we'll end up putting
close cel spray phone.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
When you start with somebody who says, look, I think
we need insulation. Is it normally the attic? Is it
the basement? What's the first room that you look at?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
So we actually look at both the attic, we're looking
on the first floor to end up seeing what kind
of air ceiling is not properly taken care of, Like,
for instance, do we see a chimney that's actually coming
through the fireplace. Do we see drop soffits in different rooms?
A lot of people are just amazed. As soon as
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we end up insulating properly those drop sofits above the cabinets,
they go, oh, my cabinets are no longer cold in comparison.
And then we also will look at the attic and
the sillboxes in the basement. Those are the key areas
because if you think about it, heat rises, cold falls.
So we'll look at those areas first, more so than
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we will with the side walls, because those had a
certain standard, Those were installed to a certain level, and
the amount of return on your investment isn't necessarily as
great as you'd find with your attic and your basement.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Sillboxes and additional insulation can be added to existing homes, right, Yes,
we do it all the time. Do it all the time.
Is there a shelf life on installation.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
No, but there is some settling that goes on, or
if people end up going into the attic space, or
if it doesn't have baffle shoots, you can get wind
washed that moves the insulation off. If there's any alterations
that have been done, like for instance, when companies end
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up coming and doing let's say soften in facial work
or siding with soft and infacial work, and then they
end up cutting in more soft events. But yet nothing
is touched in the attic since there's no baffle shoots,
which is forcing that air up and out. If those
aren't in every single channel that's opened up, you can
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actually end up getting that insulation being moved. And while
it's being moved, now all of a sudden you see
condensation problems forming inside the house.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, there was. We're dealing with one out right out
now on Brickfield where the people had a new roof
put on and he put it in his roof fence
all the way across the top. That's it, the ridge event.
They put a ridge vent all way across the top
and that's it. That's all they did. They didn't do
anything else. They didn't do anything in the side. There's
nothing they get the air in there. And he said, well,
the reason we do that because we eliminate all those
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roof fins that are all around the ugly roof fence
around event. But now there's no there's no intake for
the air to come in. Just a ridge vent.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
When some when you drive and we'll get to these
here in the next few weeks, when you drive around
different neighborhoods and see ice damps, yep, And we dealt
with that on eighty eighth Street. We had an issue
with that. And you know, as a kid, you just
see all the icicles and you think, oh, that looks
pretty cool. But what do you see when you drive
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past neighborhoods and see just all the ice.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Well, I mean, obviously it's in most cases it's a problem,
you know. I mean, granted, the sun will end up
melting the snow, and another issue that we find during
the winter months some of the gutter guards end up
causing more problems also. And the reason is there are
so many gutter guards that are made of metal. So
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you've got the roof that will warm up enough because
of the sun and the asphalt that's the shingles. Right now,
it comes down and it hits the metal or the
meshing of gutter guards and now all of a sudd
and it'll freeze it back up again right in that area,
forcing it to end up becoming more of an issue
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in comparison to what it could be.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Something makes sense.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Right down, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Sure, when when somebody says, look, you're talking installation, why
would why would an ice dam? Why would you be
talking ice damps when you're talking about insulation. But the
heat heat loss right exactly?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You know again it's the envelope or the living space
of the house that you want to end up containing
so that you're not actually getting that heat loss to
end up forcing it to end up melting and now
coming to the outer edges where it's got the vents
will be now colder, forcing it to freeze back up again.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Well, you don't want to be the guy that when
you go into subdivision you say he's got snow on
or rough except for one guy. You don't want to
be that guy, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Or now, I mean, now's actually a really good time
if you can add see your roof rafters by looking
at the frost that's on your roof right now, if
you can cut a good indication that you've got light
on insulation in areas.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Hey, the process before we get to a break the process,
what's the timing right now? If somebody goes to al
right home remindling right and takes a look and gets
to the s and the insulation tab and starts looking
at at at possibly having you guys come out. Are
we four weeks away? Are we two weeks? Are we?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So as you're aware and you're aware we have a
system in place. The very first thing that we want
to end up doing is getting eyes on it within
my company first. So we'll come out, we'll take a
look at what's going on in the house. Now more
than likely we will recommend that energy audit by a
third party, independent individual that is a trade ally of
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focus on energy. Once he ends up then coming out
doing his ret we want to meet back up with
you and just go over what that audit report.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Actually you get the report, Yes, we get a copy
of it as well. Beautiful, Now we get back together, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
And this way we can end up letting you know, hey,
you know what. Here's higher priorities, here's lower priorities. Here's
what's gonna end up getting you some of the rebates,
here's what will end up getting you all the different
options that are out there. As long as we can
end up hitting the certain numbers.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, I can help from go over that. From from
our experience with you, we needed a new rough but
we but the guy who came and painted our house
for the third time, said you, this is it. You
can't paint this house anymore, right, And so I told
you that, and you said, look look at if you
want to do both, here's it's going to save you
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a little bit of money in the end. And here's why.
So we had it all done. When you say to somebody, look,
this is this is a necessity. You have to have
this this this is the second level. But for somebody,
if they go, look, I just want to get it
all done at one time, that's certainly what would save
them some money instead of having you come out a
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year later and now doing the second level stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
What I have my company established is we want to
actually be an advocate for the homeowner. Okay, we're not
there necessarily. I mean, yes, do we end up selling
our jobs, of course we do. But the truth is
we want to end up making sure that it's going
to be done properly. It's not all about making the
dollars on of it. It's basically making sure that we're
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going to have satisfied customers so that we end up
continuing with our sixty three percent repeat and referral business. Right,
And that's how my business is established, and that's how
my son Jordan understands and will continue this from here on.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
If somebody calls and says, look, I need to see
somebody about installations, does Jordan go on. Those calls are
just for all right?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
No, no, no, all of my say salesmen are there
to end up helping on both sides of the business.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Jordan actually did my house and she gets along with Debbie.
Debbie didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I can tell you I had a guy that I
used to work with at the other radio stations who
lived in o'condom Walk. He wasn't even nice to me
like he and you know, I'm a pretty nice guy
most of the time, but he didn't like anybody. And
he had a couple of people out for a roof
of his home in Econdom Walk, and he came to
me and said, I don't trust any of them. And
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two days later Jordan was out there and he called
me at home at night this this guy and I thought, oh,
this isn't good. And he goes that guy I trust,
I go, yeah, he goes, what a nice young man.
I said, Yeah, I told you he's a really nice
young man. He goes, he took. He answered every question.
He never looked at his watch. He spent like an
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hour with me at my kitchen table saying, look that
other you know. I would say, this other company told
me I needed this. And Jordan never ripped the other company,
but he would say, we do things a little bit differently,
and here's why that might work. It might I've never
heard of that, but this is the reason we do
this stuff we do. And that guy I'm telling you
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for two years in the hallway, he'd be like, you
should be nice like that Jordan kid. I go, I'm
way nicer than Jordan. He was like, no, man, that company,
I've recommended them a lot, you know kind of walk.
And he said, he's the kid that I'll continue to
work with. Not a kid anymore. He's a grown man.
He's a grown man. Guys. Let's get to a break.
I missed Jordan. We you know, one time I did
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that show with Zach and Jordan. We got to bring
that back next time, next except he's got to be
in person.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
The last time I think it was only well and he.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Was Jordan had to go. Jordan's his son got sick. Yeah,
and so let's do that show. Sam, if you're listening,
I'd love to have Jordan show. Yeah yeah, and then
Zach and I can hit some golf balls. Maybe maybe
we'll go before the show, stuff like that when you
get to a break. He is Randy Miller, owner of
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all Right Homer Remodeling, SNY installation. Go to all Right
Remodeling dot com all Right Remodeling dot com. This is
the Creative Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox
Sports nine and your iHeartRadio app. Welcome back to the
Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I was listening to that. That was that was nice.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
That wasn't that nice? Thank you? Yeah yeah, And I
feel like giving you a gift. And I don't know why.
I don't know why. We're coming from the Dinavan and
Jorgans and Heating Cooling studios from now until you know,
right after the first of the year. Bumper music that
Spencer's playing and stuff that that I I give him
(38:50):
these and he's got some recommendations. So maybe in a
week or two we'll play a few of his But
right now, this is the kind of music you're gonna
hear on all of my show for the next month
or five weeks or so, and I appreciate your listening
about that.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So by reindeer, you don't do that, none of that, No, no,
none of that.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah. Yeah, what you hear from me is what you're
going to probably hear in a church some place around
the corner. Sorry, Randy.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Still remember as far as with music and timing and
your show when we actually did it at the Nary
Fall show and my grandson was born that night and
you found out about it, and of course all of
it had to do with father son music.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, man, I do.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
The next day we got cake, just.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We did. Yeah, yeah, we did about that. I thought
we were going to get pie to day. But that's
all right, don't worry, don't worry.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
She makes a really good zucchini bread too. She brought
a couple of those. You want to talk about You
want to talk about zucchini bread? That doesn't last very
long because there are other there are other guys walking
out here and they're kind of looking in like, hey,
can I get something? Yeah, come on, come on in.
It was really good. Hey, we don't have much time.
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Can we talk a little bit about the rebates when
we're talking a lot about insulation right now, s in
the insulation all right, home and remodeling, Randy Miller, I
can't believe that. All right, Homer Modley's been around fifty
five years, you've been the owner for twenty yeah, and
s in the insallation you've been the owner for fifteen? Correct?
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Isn't that? Doesn't that just like you shake your head,
just days go long and years go fast?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Did it go fast?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I mean, I cannot believe how this has been around
and that I've been that active in the owner right,
And I'm beaming because of the fact that we're just
starting that transition into that next ownership of the third
one with my son, and that's just exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Is he excited about it? He's ready? Right? Yeah? He
is right. He was ready five years ago, was ready
five years ago? I know it just and that's why
we had them in because that's that new young blood
kind of And it was funny when we did the
show together a few years ago because they both said, look,
we already know some of the changes we're going to do,
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And I asked them, have you told your parents? Have
you told your dat and they're like, ah, kind of well,
I'm not going to tell them all the changes because
maybe they'll stick around longer, and they laugh and stuff
like that. Focus on energy, I want to make sure
that people understand. Now would be the perfect time to
give you guys.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
A call, absolutely, because the rebates that are out there
are awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's actually like a three prong rebates that are available
to you.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Focus on energy actually has if we end up doing
insulating air ceiling both in the sillboxes in the attic,
twelve hundred dollars off of the top, and what we
end up doing is we actually will take that off
from your total contract so you don't have to wait
for the rebates. We actually are the bankers sitting on
that fund. There's also tax rebates through the Inflation Reduction
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Act that's available as well when you end up doing insulation.
There's also availability even for windows right now from that,
but you really have to end up getting to the
very insulated window, a highly insulated window in order to
actually get those credits. But you can end up working
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that through for ten time.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
It does exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
And then the final one is there's additional credits based
on how are rebates based on how well insulated the
house was. In other words, if they make it that
much more energy efficient. There's over two thousand dollars that
are available from that, and that's not even an income
qualified for those that are income qualified. It's even more
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dollars that are available for homeowners.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That continue into twenty twenty five. Yes, okay, so it's
not like people are need to freak out and say
you got to get the work done before the end
of the year. Do you work, and I know you
guys do a lot of outdoor work. Do you work
your round outdoors if possible. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
The only time we won't end up working is during
a snowstorm. And you know, we take our precautions. You
know what our guarantee is when it comes to roofing.
But when we can't quite see all of the nails
that are on the ground, we actually ask you, as
the homeowner, just call us when the snow is gone,
and we'll actually have our PMA come out and he'll
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do another raking and just double check everything and yeah,
making sure that it's actually in very good, top notch
position the way we want it to be.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And you look good, You look good. I feel good.
Yeah too, skinny. Oh yeah, I got a long way
to go. I'm glad you didn't bring donuts. Thank you.
I noticed that those things talk to me when you
bring him by the way. Well yeah, they were like,
hey Mike, you remember me? Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Well, right after Thanksgiving, I figured this is.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's what you don't usually on a Saturday, after you
say hey, I'm starving in the morning, like right, yeah, yeah.
I had a big family, so we just do the
stuff for days. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
We I took some some leftovers from my sister's home
and ate him yesterday, so I'm good. She knows that
I took a little.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
There was a lot of people to take leftovers, and
my sister Colleen and Maureen hosted out.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
We want to talk about etiquette. Is it proper? Is
it polite to show up with tupperware?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
My sister used to have us bring pie crust so
that we could put the leftovers and make pot pies
like it was really good. And Terry is like, do
you want to bring those? I said no, I won't.
So she she has all the all the tupperware that
you can put your leftovers in and bring home and
it was really good. Brandy, It's so good to see you.
Bing It's great to see you you also, I mean,
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I got to tell you.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Both of you, gentlemen, have been such a strong proponent
for my business and a strong believer in the family
values that I end up holding that my family ends
up holding. I know you both believe in the exact
same thing, and you know, Bingo, with you having a
family run business, I know we talked back and forth
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about different things that end up going on. But being
Thanksgiving time, I just want to thank you both for
all the support that you guys have been giving us all.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Thank you, especially for really my daughter was in a
jam with their roof and he bailed them out at
the warranty and everything. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Look, I I'm telling you, Jordan was up on my
roof at seventeen in the morning putting putting tarp up
to try to save our kitchen. And I tell that
story every time you're in because it had such a
big impact on us. So thank you, guys, and I
appreciate you saying that. I really do. Guys. Have a
good weekend, Bingo. See you next week, Randy. I know
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you're gonna be on another show a week from now,
and it won't nearly be as much fun.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Ass is that show Stone Business?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh? I got nothing. This is the Creative Construction of
Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty and
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Welcome to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Any issues you're having, you had to turn that furnace
down now, any issues you're having, go to Donovan Jorganston
dot com and trust me, they'll take good care of you.
Alongside is Bingo Emmons. He is the owner of Creative
Construction Wisconsin. Happy Thanksgiving, Yeah, be Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That went good. That went good.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I thought maybe you'd bring some leftovers from me and Randy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know, I thought about it, but I for you
guys all have your own left doors, not anymore. I
was like, that speaks some one of that Piet. He's like,
it's Thanksgiving. Everybody's full because she's full. Now we all
gotta be full.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How was their birthday that you had brought up? Good?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, you brought it up. I just want to go back.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, one week getting we did a surprise birthday for
her on Tuesday, So she was upset about that. Not
only that is like like Sam's like calling me and said, hey,
you know, she's changing her clothes, like she's getting ready
for bed. He says, we should tell her, you know, surprised.
I said, you know what, I really want to be surprised.
Oh yeah, she was surprised. She was like getting ready
for bed when they all show it up.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So I'm glad that some one knocking on the door.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
She's all right, and she's like, you know, so you
know the in laws came over and she's like that
there's only tip of the iceberg. She said, what I said,
you might want to change. She was really so then
she's some more worried about her appearance and then didn't
care about it. Stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, I'm glad you had a good time.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Is Donovan Durgons sees her and putting in some overtime
right now, trying to keep up with this.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, and I'll tell you what that that maintenance program
for me and and I and I said this before
I bought it for us, and then I bought it
for my son Matthew. And Matthew then tells his sister,
who goes, hey, what about us, So all of us
have it and they come out twice a year. They
were out by us, I don't know, six weeks ago,
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just making sure the furnace is ready to go.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I think i'd be busy today. Oh today, because I
don't know the spencer I got the dump button because
when I walked out to the truck this one, I
was like.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's cold.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, it was cold.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know, the dump button doesn't work. So let's stay
away from that. Our special guest today and he's just
hanging out, just kind of walked in and I said, boy,
I hope we can talk some insulation today. He said absolutely.
He is Randy Miller. He's the owner of all Right
Home Remodeling and Seny Insallation. How you been I've been great.
How about yourself? It's good to see you.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You know what, we always just have a nice relaxed
time when we end up talking, but good information ends
up coming out.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Of and there. You know, there are there are certain
people that come in that I have to do a
ton of research on, you know, just to make sure
that I asked questions and and try to keep the
conversation flowing.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah that when you Yeah, between the three of us,
there's been so much research that has been done between
all of us working together or the different activities that
we've had. Well, I had the golf that I've beaten
you at. You know all of that a lot of people,
But hold on, I got coming in with a vengeance, Randy.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I am so hooked on this thing. I'm telling you.
When the a couple of weeks ago, I was out
at Songbird three times by myself, hitting three balls on
each shot I've I've been. Of course, you get there ball.
Guess who I'm taking a few lessons from Michael Grossman.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Isn't that awesome? I actually saw him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I just enjoyed this young man. He is such a
passion to teach people. And I just called him by
the blue and said, look, I'm really getting into it.
My goal is to break fifty this year, right, And
he said, okay, that's a good goal. I said, yeah,
I've been to fifty two, fifty three, sure, and I
hit fifty twice. But I and I could tell you
(03:52):
the putts I missed to get to forty nine, and
they still stick in my crawl. Right. But I've been
working with Michael a little bit and films that I
didn't realize. I come straight down and I got to
figure out the shell. All the all the videos in
the world can't get me to learn how to shallow
the club and all that. However, I'll play next year.
(04:13):
You and me, baby, bring it baby, you and me,
let's go and then we'll really have something to talk
about it. Before we talk installation, I have to say
thank you to you. Speaking of my daughter Katie and
son in law John and these four grandsons. They had
some hail damage and said, what you know, we need
to talk to somebody. Is it okay with you? If
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we give Randy a call, you go one hundred percent.
He would be the guy. He's been at your house,
he's done a lot of work at your house. He
would be the guy. And they tried to figure out
all the information that they needed for insurance and all that.
And you came over and said, okay, let me step
you through it. And then not only the work, but
the knowledge that you gave them just set them at ease, like, okay,
(04:57):
we He's gonna be able to step us through. It's
so I thank you. You know, these they call me
all the time, Randy, and I just said, say called Bingo,
call Zach, called dev called Sam, Or call Randy right,
called Jesse, called Jason. Call the people that are in
their circle that you have.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
All nary people, phenomenal excellent contractors.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, And I wish that I could go out Howard.
Howard's been you know, Royal Chimney's been out there a
bunch of times to both Katie and Matthew's house. And
it's kind of like, oh, now, you guys can help
me with this. They want to you know, their driveway
right where the basketball hoop and the camper.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
In a basketball hoop. That's surprising, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And I can't teach those boys to go left. They
won't listen to me. They're like, he's old, he's our poppy.
He doesn't know anything about basketball. I do a little.
I coached a little. But they want to take that
driveway and expand it going towards going to words Capital drive.
Who do we Who do I talk to for that? Well?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know that's that you know best at. Yeah, he's
been on the show. He's a you can't meet him,
a nicer player. He's I'm not gonna say, polite concrete guy.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah that's who you know what that that you're right?
He was a great guy.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh yeah, that's why he doesn't he doesn't advertise anything.
And I ran him to him. I ran ran to
him through Narry. That's why I got him, and then U.
We've been using him ever since then for the last
you know, five years. He's just he's just been a
great guy. I usually don't kind of I don't want
to tell too many people about this guy. I don't
feel like, give me the top mat service. He's even
doing zax Holls.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, so that's who. If he's listening, I'm telling you,
I'll be calling you. Because in springtime, we we got
Terry new car over at Mike you knowos Brookfield Buick GMC,
who sponsors all of our shows, and went over and
to Bryan Juno and and now for a while. And
what happened was she took my card, like to go
(06:59):
to the grocery store. And she's like, you can be home.
I go, yeah, she goes, and I just take your car.
I said, sure. She came home. She goes, I really
like your car. I said, thanks. She goes, can I
have it? I go, what can I have it? I go?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Who asked? Sobody? Can I have your car? And you know,
I thought we're going to jab back and forth a little.
She threw a haymaker. Well, I have the grandkids. I
drive the grand kids a lot more than you do.
And your car. I feel much safer in your car.
And I thought you threw the atomic bomb right.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Away to go Terry.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well then I go see Brian and I go, okay,
you can have mine, but then you know, I'll have
to get a new one. And I this Envision's really nice.
So I took it. I drove it home and I said, hey,
I think this is the one I'll get. You want
you want to go in it? She goes yeah, So
she drove it. She's like, I don't want your car anymore.
(07:54):
I want this one. And I said this isn't working
out for me, and she goes, well what do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I go, you should have got a big pickup truck
that want to solve that problem?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, and on the showroom floor there's this big giant
hummer and I go, take a picture of me by
this and I'll send it to show never drive this thing.
And so now she's driving it. And we gave the
Sonata to Katie because Keegan's fifteen, right, could it be sure? Well?
(08:23):
I said, look at I'm gonna sell it to you.
I want a dollar and a half for it, but
I want tax to so dollar eighty. Well, they told
Kegan you're gonna have to start paying for that car.
And I go, did they tell you how much I'm
charging him? He said no, I said a dollar eighty
you offered me two bucks. I'll sell it directly to you.
He started laughing. He was in the new car, and
(08:45):
he goes, can I have this one for two bucks?
And I was like, no, wait, what people are asking
a lot?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Man?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I know Christmas right, because Grandpa, I know what your husband.
You know, you were the last one in line.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
The last one in line, and these are my grandsons.
Whatever they want, for sure, How is your grandson doing?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
My grandson's doing pretty good. He's had a few bouts
with health issues.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm sorry, what's going on? Is he all right?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, he's dealing with.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He'll be fine. Okay, let me just put it that way.
He'll be fine good, I hope, so and praying for him.
Talk about SNY Installation. I know that all right, Home
Remodeling is the company, correct, and SNY Insallation is under
that umbrella. But I've got to believe right now that
you guys with insulation really busy.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Insulation is really really strong at this time of the year,
especially with some of the different programs that are going on,
both through focus on energy, the federal funds that are
out there for the Inflation Reduction Act. But realistically, as
soon as this weather ends changing, homeowners start to think
about the insulation situation where during the summer months they're
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really not there to consider it nearly as much as
they are right now.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Wouldn't it be that would be the best time, wouldn't
it like like in the summertime, because then we can
kind of take our time, you can do what you do,
and we don't. But but when somebody calls you, now
it's just look, I'm feeling drafts all the way through.
By the way, do you work, Do you work in
condos at all?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right, because I am ours is a little drafty,
I think, well, and do you have your garage downstairs? Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Okay, so nothing is even worse than the cold that's
coming in from the garage to that upper.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Level right and my office is right above the garage,
so I've got that space heater and that helps a lot.
But the the the condo feels drafting, and we've got
a fireplace, and Terry loves to have the fireplace and
that keeps it nice and warm. But it just feels
a little drafting. I didn't know how much work you
guys didn't cond Terry call me. Yeah, you know what,
(11:02):
we'll do a commercial that. Like Zach said, she's got
Zack God's speed dial because when I try a little,
you know I can do this.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I've watched videos big sheets and gloom to the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I could do this. And she's got Zack godspeed down
and says, hey, Michael's trying to project do on his own.
Get ready because he'll be calling you or I'll be calling.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
We got We've been getting a lot of customers lately.
Is when people will you see spray foam out of
people pickle the holes and you go behind your TV
set and you try to blow it in right, and
then they don't realize that that expanded. It expands and
it blows in and it goes into the living room
and then then they're gonna transclaim. And that's what we
have the problem.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
What is the best the best installation? And is there
a go to for you that you guys used you
use the phone to use.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Well, I mean, we use every component that as much
as we can that's out there and available to us.
I mean we tried. I mean we use different products.
If we're gonna end up comparing cellulose to fiberglass, our
preference for insulating of an attic is more so the cellulose.
We think it's actually a better product. It's also healthier.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I agree with that. Just when you say the word fiberglass,
I start getting itchy.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, he starts right, what's your sut?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And fiberglass actually works with airflow, so if you start
compressing fiberglass, that becomes a problem. It doesn't actually have
the same insulated value. But we do end up doing
quite a bit with close cell spray foam as well.
And there's a difference between close cell and open cell. Now,
the one thing we will not do is blindly put
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in uh spray foam into like walls or cavities that
we can't actually see what we're installing it into or
the areas. And the reason is it could cause voids
and make it even more proper lematic for the homeowner.
It's so that's the reason why. But yeah, we use
all three major components.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And you and you had that conversation with the homeowner
to say, look, this would be our preference. However this
is available price wise. Is there a big difference.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
When you're talking about close L spray pham. Yes, and
substantially more expensive, but you're getting a better our value
per wrench.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good good question, because that's one of my questions. Could
you get any could you explain our value to not
to me, of course, but to the people listening.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yes, because he knows exactly what our value and you
value as right, he knows. He just wants to see.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think it's a capacity of the insulating material to resist.
Oh yeah, can you tell that I happened that?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Otherwise in layman terms, it's the insulated value too.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, let's for let's well, I can tell you by
calling Randy Miller overright already he can. He can explain it,
explain our value, because that seems to be a question
that people no realist.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That's the insulated value to it, and that's the standards
that we end up looking at, like, for instance, in
an attic, the old standards you stand up being in
our thirty which was in the neighborhood of about ten
inches of insulation. Now in Wisconsin. Here we're looking at
more of an R fifty for the insulated attics, so
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big difference in comparison to old school.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But then you see those house with big cathedral ceilings.
In order to gain our value of the fifty or something,
you got to and you just that's what that's what
you do with the spray phams. You guys call it
hot roofs, and just there's a whole lot of world.
That's why you know, people just they always they watch
these TV shows and then you Okay, this is what
I can do. This is great for me because then
you know they always leak or the trap moisture. But air.
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I know Randy for a while. One of the first
things he did is actually came for my dad's house
and they say, we got insulation problem, or no, we
had a roof problem, and so what do you want
to do. He says, no, you got an air ceiling problem,
airbar and then the moist were getting aniatic, so we
thought it was a rough leak, you know, and we
were going to literally buy a new roof from him,
and he sold us a air ceiling which was way
cheaper and actually solve the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, I can tell you know, we're gonna get to
a break. But every time that I have you guys together,
I have to tell the first story. Right, We just
got done paying we were helping pay our kids college tuition.
Terry and I were at the kitchen table with our
spreadsheets and we had just gotten done with Matthew. Katie
had gone through Miranatha Baptist Bible College. Matthew had gone through,
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and like we were done, and we like high fived
and went to bed. And at three in the morning,
four in the morning, I heard something and it was
a storm. It was raining, and I go in the
kitchen and it's just dripping. There's water coming in from
our roof into the kitchen. And I thought, you know, lord,
I appreciate your patience. What's your sense of humor? That's
(15:55):
not right that we just figured out we you know,
we're done with all these payments. I called you guy.
I called you about six am. By seven o'clock, you know,
you guys were out and putting tarp up there, and said, look,
you're gonna need a new roof. Your your your roof
is bad. I think there were three or four different
whatever it was, but it was bad and I said,
(16:18):
what are we gonna do with the kitchen and you said, well,
call Bingo. That's he'll take care of that. And then
Bingo came out and I said, hey, Terry wants this
this ceiling fan out and he said, call Kernel Electric.
So look, you know, Kernel Electric has been all your
brod now with me for a while. Creative Construction Wisconsin.
Zach came out, did a great job, and then Currl
Electric came out put the windows, and then you came out,
(16:40):
fixed the roof, did the siding, and uh yeah, it
was that. It kind of got the ball rolling on
of this whole thing. And you know, we we sat
at the kitchen table and the three of us picked
the colors, which is awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Excuse me anyway, let's get how many of us the colors.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Let's get to a break. There was greed in mind.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I got a green, Kelly green, that was the only
color you picked.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I got some green and didn't get the same green
that Terry wanted.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Though.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, I and I sat at the table.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
We talked about what is going to make the most sense, right,
and you guys were correct, because I'm telling you, even
when we were packing up to move people were still
walking by and going, hey, man, your house looks really good,
and yeah, the curb appeal was great, it was, and
how you did it? And the guy your crew that
came out, I told you this one hundred times. We
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did siding, we did that, We did the roof, and
somebody had started a kitty corner from us. They started
a roof project two weeks before you guys camp, and
two weeks after they still weren't done. And the guy
was mad at me, and I'm like, why are you
mad at me? Well, my guys that they're not even
showing up and they won't return my call and have you. Hey,
(17:53):
it's all the nails that you really probably messed up
your lawnmower, right, And I'm like, no, I go, no,
he's got some deer with his guys that he comes out.
Randy Miller comes out. If he finds five or less,
ten or less, there you go. I always make it
better ten or less nails. He gives them a little bonus.
And the guy was mad at that, and I go,
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you should have gone, you should have called Randy. Do
you want his card? No, I've already paid these guys.
He paid him in full and it took him six
weeks to do a simple rough. It was a simple job.
They didn't have to tear it tear it out, They
just put it on top.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And those horror stories are out there so much. And
that's the reason why there is such a difference between
the professional companies and the non professional companies. And that's
the reason why I like being part of association like
NARY and the NBA and all of those, because there
is a little bit of a checks and balances. I'm
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not gonna say that we've never made errors, but it's
all about just the professionalism and handling it as best
possible in all scenarios.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Do you remember what a name event that was the
guy next door to me? Oh yeah, the guy down
the block.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
The professional next door want to end up teaching us
everything about what to do.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, he's not with us anymore. But I don't know
what time you'd have to start drinking. But you guys
got there at like eight o'clock, and at eight point
fifteen he came out and he was telling you guys
what to do and how to do it. And you
had two brothers that were working on your crew at
that time, and they were so entertaining to our neighborhood.
They were they were, you know, making fun of each other, laughing,
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throwing things that I mean, people enjoyed. Enjoyed there, the
way they worked together and how hard they worked from
literally sun up to sundown, and they got our house
done really quickly. But the comments that they had to
each other. We also did the roof on the on
the garage, which was I mean, it was just a
constant flow of water in that garage. So we need
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to get to a break. He is Randy Miller, and
we're going to continue to talk about s in the installation.
But all right, Home and Remodeling is the overall Unbrother company.
We'll talk a little bit about that, but I've got
a number of questions regarding home installation. We'll do that
on the other side of the break. This is the
Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine
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twenty and your iHeartRadio app. Welcome back to the Creative
Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine and
your iHeartRadio app. Coming live from the Donovan and Jorgans
and Heating and Cooling Studios. I'm Mike mcgiffern alongside Bingo Emmons.
He's the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin and Randy Miller,
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owner of all Right Homer Remodeling in S and E Installation.
You can check out his information all Right remodeling dot com.
All Right our it t e all right remodeling.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah. Whenever I'll pull something and he said, you spell
it wrong? It yeah, yeah, that's where you go, Okay,
how you spell it? All right?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Part I do. I can't give.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You teach me how to spell make a polist Bengal Edmunds.
I think you might have got my wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Well, you know, we gotta play with it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And Randy Miller, that's nice. That's that one I can
I can spell. Jeff Hey. So a question about installation
that that I got from a buddy of mine, the
answer should be no, because you don't know him like
I do. Can he install the Can he install insulation
by himself?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So the short answer obviously is sure, if somebody wants
to end up doing it as a d I Y,
you can't. But the biggest portion that you're actually missing
with it is it's just as important to verify that
your ventilation system is working well and the air ceiling
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is also important and most people forget about that portion
of it, and that's actually what's causing that airflow coming
into the attic. If you just add insulation, all you're
reducing is is all you're doing is reducing the amount
of space that's actually up in the attic, causing potentially
more problems as far as with condensation getting trapped inside there.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And one of my one of my we make a
lot of money because people do insulate themselves because if
they put insulation real thick, but what happens is the
moisture traps into the first few layers of insulation and
then then the pain starts peeling in the ceiling and
they don't realize that it was the air ceiling. You know,
that needs to be done by a professional that that
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what solve these problems, because they do. Is that's what
I do, is that's all I look at the ceiling
and so like you must have just had insulated in
the last couple of years, because yeah, how do you know,
because they trapped that moisture into the ceiling that used
to just blow through and go out.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So you do it yourself, it's got a chance to go.
If you cost you more, cause more problem at the end,
how does somebody know? Do you guys still do the
home energy audit one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
So that he's worse than he can he still even
when he does my health, I need you have an
energy odor first. I could just want to insulate round
he because no, you have energy ouder first, I just
want to insulate it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What I like about it is they don't have a
dog in the fight. No right, And if they come
out and do the home energy audit and say no,
this home is great, you walk away. It's good. But
but what I like is this is not you you
doing the audit and then selling somebody something correct exactly
you know?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I mean in so many scenarios, the energy auditor is
the insulation company, and the way the focus on Energy
program is actually established, they want a trade ally to
do the initial evaluation or the energy audit. They then
want to end up having a trade ally do the
insulation work, but they also want the auditor to verify
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that the work was done right. So if I end
up being all three components of it, where's the checks
and backlenses? And I've always been against that theory of
making it simple for the homeowner. Instead in my opinion, let's.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Do it the right way.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
That's like, if you have how many people do we
end up cringing about when they said they avoided home
inspections with that cree of the house?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Still cringe right, because you don't.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Know what you're actually missing until you actually do the
proper evaluation.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Do you know that my wife wouldn't even let us
put the house up until we got we we I
mean man Kuso came fixed some stuff. We had current
electricom fix it. So we basically had almost an audit
prior to even putting it up, or not an audit,
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but an inspection prior to putting it up. Because what
she didn't want to do is leave any of the
homeowners any issues that she would feel guilty about. I
was like, let's just put it up.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know, yay, I've been on them, you know, usually
put my inspector hat on whatever. I've been on the
other side of that, when people say, mister, you don't
und to stand. If we wouldn't have skipped in a
home inspection, there seven hundred people would have got the
house and they're stuck with thousands and thousands of dollars.
I mean, okay, was this worth thirty thousand to you
to skip a home inspector?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And that's just from my end of it had nothing
to do with the foundation that was slipping and all
the others, the waters in there, and it's just the
people I in real estate people you know, they're not
really as honest as you think they are.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, not a lot of them, and were careful with that.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You get a lot of business as far as with
the filters.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, and I name the ones that we know, we
know we're waking at y.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a few that aren't. Okay, there's a
few that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You get a little bit nervous with. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Just like anything in anybody's industry. You know there's good
and you know there's bad that's out there, and you
try and end up working with those that are.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And we'll talk about roof A lot of scam roofing companies.
They're in business for three years tops, and they change
your name and to come up with a different T
shirt and come in.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Some come in from out of state. When you know,
when there's storm's here, they come in and.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Look at a bobb We had out on a coon
walk with all those guys roofing companies. They're like, hey,
we're working right down the street someone else with some
names and you all get Illinois plates on.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, not good.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And that's scary when somebody asks you the benefits of
making sure the installation is is is correct and done properly.
When when somebody said, look, I'm not too worried about it.
I I've never checked it. I don't know if it's
correct or not, but I think we're doing fine. The
benefits of having insallation to to somebody.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Is what well.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I mean, obviously it saves on their heating bills and
their energy efficiencies all the way around. Second of all,
it's comfort that they'll end up had. I mean, the
more insulation that you end up having the envelope, which
is the warm portion of the house, the living space
actually then can be more comfortable. And if you've got
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the right type of airflow, it's allowing that to transfer
in and out in a healthier manner too.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And you can also over insulate, you know, is an
not a money maker for me. Yeah, there's people that
over insulate. They put it on soul thick and they
just theirs get so trapped.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Do you get much That's the reason why the airflow
is so vital, just to making sure that that's actually working.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Do you get much business with with new new builds?
Because when I know, a couple of weeks ago, we're
talking about Zach and you were talking about how in
some of these new houses they they don't do anything
in the basement. Sure, right, right, you buy the house
and then you've got to have the basement done. How
do you do much business with new homes?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I mean, like what you're referencing in the basement. Typically
the first spot that should insulated well is the sillboxes
and that's at the top of the block or the
poored basement where the joyste actually or come across. And
then in those areas are where we'll end up putting
close cel spray phone.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
When you start with somebody who says, look, I think
we need insulation. Is it normally the attic? Is it
the basement? What's the first room that you look at?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
So we actually look at both the attic, we're looking
on the first floor to end up seeing what kind
of air ceiling is not properly taken care of, Like,
for instance, do we see a chimney that's actually coming
through the fireplace. Do we see drop soffits in different rooms?
A lot of people are just amazed. As soon as
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we end up insulating properly those drop sofits above the cabinets,
they go, oh, my cabinets are no longer cold in comparison.
And then we also will look at the attic and
the sillboxes in the basement. Those are the key areas
because if you think about it, heat rises, cold falls.
So we'll look at those areas first, more so than
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we will with the side walls, because those had a
certain standard, Those were installed to a certain level, and
the amount of return on your investment isn't necessarily as
great as you'd find with your attic and your basement.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Sillboxes and additional insulation can be added to existing homes, right, Yes,
we do it all the time. Do it all the time.
Is there a shelf life on installation.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
No, but there is some settling that goes on, or
if people end up going into the attic space, or
if it doesn't have baffle shoots, you can get wind
washed that moves the insulation off. If there's any alterations
that have been done, like for instance, when companies end
(29:59):
up coming and doing let's say soften in facial work
or siding with soft and infacial work, and then they
end up cutting in more soft events. But yet nothing
is touched in the attic since there's no baffle shoots,
which is forcing that air up and out. If those
aren't in every single channel that's opened up, you can
(30:22):
actually end up getting that insulation being moved. And while
it's being moved, now all of a sudden you see
condensation problems forming inside the house.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, there was. We're dealing with one out right out
now on Brickfield where the people had a new roof
put on and he put it in his roof fence
all the way across the top. That's it, the ridge event.
They put a ridge vent all way across the top
and that's it. That's all they did. They didn't do
anything else. They didn't do anything in the side. There's
nothing they get the air in there. And he said, well,
the reason we do that because we eliminate all those
(30:51):
roof fins that are all around the ugly roof fence
around event. But now there's no there's no intake for
the air to come in. Just a ridge vent.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
When some when you drive and we'll get to these
here in the next few weeks, when you drive around
different neighborhoods and see ice damps, yep, And we dealt
with that on eighty eighth Street. We had an issue
with that. And you know, as a kid, you just
see all the icicles and you think, oh, that looks
pretty cool. But what do you see when you drive
(31:20):
past neighborhoods and see just all the ice.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Well, I mean, obviously it's in most cases it's a problem,
you know. I mean, granted, the sun will end up
melting the snow, and another issue that we find during
the winter months some of the gutter guards end up
causing more problems also. And the reason is there are
so many gutter guards that are made of metal. So
(31:44):
you've got the roof that will warm up enough because
of the sun and the asphalt that's the shingles. Right now,
it comes down and it hits the metal or the
meshing of gutter guards and now all of a sudd
and it'll freeze it back up again right in that area,
forcing it to end up becoming more of an issue
(32:06):
in comparison to what it could be.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Something makes sense.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Right down, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Sure, when when somebody says, look, you're talking installation, why
would why would an ice dam? Why would you be
talking ice damps when you're talking about insulation. But the
heat heat loss right exactly?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You know again it's the envelope or the living space
of the house that you want to end up containing
so that you're not actually getting that heat loss to
end up forcing it to end up melting and now
coming to the outer edges where it's got the vents
will be now colder, forcing it to freeze back up again.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Well, you don't want to be the guy that when
you go into subdivision you say he's got snow on
or rough except for one guy. You don't want to
be that guy, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Or now, I mean, now's actually a really good time
if you can add see your roof rafters by looking
at the frost that's on your roof right now, if
you can cut a good indication that you've got light
on insulation in areas.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Hey, the process before we get to a break the process,
what's the timing right now? If somebody goes to al
right home remindling right and takes a look and gets
to the s and the insulation tab and starts looking
at at at possibly having you guys come out. Are
we four weeks away? Are we two weeks? Are we?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So as you're aware and you're aware we have a
system in place. The very first thing that we want
to end up doing is getting eyes on it within
my company first. So we'll come out, we'll take a
look at what's going on in the house. Now more
than likely we will recommend that energy audit by a
third party, independent individual that is a trade ally of
(33:55):
focus on energy. Once he ends up then coming out
doing his ret we want to meet back up with
you and just go over what that audit report.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Actually you get the report, Yes, we get a copy
of it as well. Beautiful, Now we get back together, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
And this way we can end up letting you know, hey,
you know what. Here's higher priorities, here's lower priorities. Here's
what's gonna end up getting you some of the rebates,
here's what will end up getting you all the different
options that are out there. As long as we can
end up hitting the certain numbers.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, I can help from go over that. From from
our experience with you, we needed a new rough but
we but the guy who came and painted our house
for the third time, said you, this is it. You
can't paint this house anymore, right, And so I told
you that, and you said, look look at if you
want to do both, here's it's going to save you
(34:48):
a little bit of money in the end. And here's why.
So we had it all done. When you say to somebody, look,
this is this is a necessity. You have to have
this this this is the second level. But for somebody,
if they go, look, I just want to get it
all done at one time, that's certainly what would save
them some money instead of having you come out a
(35:09):
year later and now doing the second level stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
What I have my company established is we want to
actually be an advocate for the homeowner. Okay, we're not
there necessarily. I mean, yes, do we end up selling
our jobs, of course we do. But the truth is
we want to end up making sure that it's going
to be done properly. It's not all about making the
dollars on of it. It's basically making sure that we're
(35:33):
going to have satisfied customers so that we end up
continuing with our sixty three percent repeat and referral business. Right,
And that's how my business is established, and that's how
my son Jordan understands and will continue this from here on.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
If somebody calls and says, look, I need to see
somebody about installations, does Jordan go on. Those calls are
just for all right?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
No, no, no, all of my say salesmen are there
to end up helping on both sides of the business.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Jordan actually did my house and she gets along with Debbie.
Debbie didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I can tell you I had a guy that I
used to work with at the other radio stations who
lived in o'condom Walk. He wasn't even nice to me
like he and you know, I'm a pretty nice guy
most of the time, but he didn't like anybody. And
he had a couple of people out for a roof
of his home in Econdom Walk, and he came to
me and said, I don't trust any of them. And
(36:29):
two days later Jordan was out there and he called
me at home at night this this guy and I thought, oh,
this isn't good. And he goes that guy I trust,
I go, yeah, he goes, what a nice young man.
I said, Yeah, I told you he's a really nice
young man. He goes, he took. He answered every question.
He never looked at his watch. He spent like an
(36:52):
hour with me at my kitchen table saying, look that
other you know. I would say, this other company told
me I needed this. And Jordan never ripped the other company,
but he would say, we do things a little bit differently,
and here's why that might work. It might I've never
heard of that, but this is the reason we do
this stuff we do. And that guy I'm telling you
(37:13):
for two years in the hallway, he'd be like, you
should be nice like that Jordan kid. I go, I'm
way nicer than Jordan. He was like, no, man, that company,
I've recommended them a lot, you know kind of walk.
And he said, he's the kid that I'll continue to
work with. Not a kid anymore. He's a grown man.
He's a grown man. Guys. Let's get to a break.
I missed Jordan. We you know, one time I did
(37:35):
that show with Zach and Jordan. We got to bring
that back next time, next except he's got to be
in person.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
The last time I think it was only well and he.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Was Jordan had to go. Jordan's his son got sick. Yeah,
and so let's do that show. Sam, if you're listening,
I'd love to have Jordan show. Yeah yeah, and then
Zach and I can hit some golf balls. Maybe maybe
we'll go before the show, stuff like that when you
get to a break. He is Randy Miller, owner of
(38:07):
all Right Homer Remodeling, SNY installation. Go to all Right
Remodeling dot com all Right Remodeling dot com. This is
the Creative Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox
Sports nine and your iHeartRadio app. Welcome back to the
Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I was listening to that. That was that was nice.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
That wasn't that nice? Thank you? Yeah yeah, And I
feel like giving you a gift. And I don't know why.
I don't know why. We're coming from the Dinavan and
Jorgans and Heating Cooling studios from now until you know,
right after the first of the year. Bumper music that
Spencer's playing and stuff that that I I give him
(38:50):
these and he's got some recommendations. So maybe in a
week or two we'll play a few of his But
right now, this is the kind of music you're gonna
hear on all of my show for the next month
or five weeks or so, and I appreciate your listening
about that.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So by reindeer, you don't do that, none of that, No, no,
none of that.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah. Yeah, what you hear from me is what you're
going to probably hear in a church some place around
the corner. Sorry, Randy.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Still remember as far as with music and timing and
your show when we actually did it at the Nary
Fall show and my grandson was born that night and
you found out about it, and of course all of
it had to do with father son music.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, man, I do.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
The next day we got cake, just.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We did. Yeah, yeah, we did about that. I thought
we were going to get pie to day. But that's
all right, don't worry, don't worry.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
She makes a really good zucchini bread too. She brought
a couple of those. You want to talk about You
want to talk about zucchini bread? That doesn't last very
long because there are other there are other guys walking
out here and they're kind of looking in like, hey,
can I get something? Yeah, come on, come on in.
It was really good. Hey, we don't have much time.
(40:08):
Can we talk a little bit about the rebates when
we're talking a lot about insulation right now, s in
the insulation all right, home and remodeling, Randy Miller, I
can't believe that. All right, Homer Modley's been around fifty
five years, you've been the owner for twenty yeah, and
s in the insallation you've been the owner for fifteen? Correct?
(40:29):
Isn't that? Doesn't that just like you shake your head,
just days go long and years go fast?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Did it go fast?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I mean, I cannot believe how this has been around
and that I've been that active in the owner right,
And I'm beaming because of the fact that we're just
starting that transition into that next ownership of the third
one with my son, and that's just exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Is he excited about it? He's ready? Right? Yeah? He
is right. He was ready five years ago, was ready
five years ago? I know it just and that's why
we had them in because that's that new young blood
kind of And it was funny when we did the
show together a few years ago because they both said, look,
we already know some of the changes we're going to do,
(41:16):
And I asked them, have you told your parents? Have
you told your dat and they're like, ah, kind of well,
I'm not going to tell them all the changes because
maybe they'll stick around longer, and they laugh and stuff
like that. Focus on energy, I want to make sure
that people understand. Now would be the perfect time to
give you guys.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
A call, absolutely, because the rebates that are out there
are awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's actually like a three prong rebates that are available
to you.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Focus on energy actually has if we end up doing
insulating air ceiling both in the sillboxes in the attic,
twelve hundred dollars off of the top, and what we
end up doing is we actually will take that off
from your total contract so you don't have to wait
for the rebates. We actually are the bankers sitting on
that fund. There's also tax rebates through the Inflation Reduction
(42:08):
Act that's available as well when you end up doing insulation.
There's also availability even for windows right now from that,
but you really have to end up getting to the
very insulated window, a highly insulated window in order to
actually get those credits. But you can end up working
(42:28):
that through for ten time.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
It does exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
And then the final one is there's additional credits based
on how are rebates based on how well insulated the
house was. In other words, if they make it that
much more energy efficient. There's over two thousand dollars that
are available from that, and that's not even an income
qualified for those that are income qualified. It's even more
(42:57):
dollars that are available for homeowners.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That continue into twenty twenty five. Yes, okay, so it's
not like people are need to freak out and say
you got to get the work done before the end
of the year. Do you work, and I know you
guys do a lot of outdoor work. Do you work
your round outdoors if possible. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
The only time we won't end up working is during
a snowstorm. And you know, we take our precautions. You
know what our guarantee is when it comes to roofing.
But when we can't quite see all of the nails
that are on the ground, we actually ask you, as
the homeowner, just call us when the snow is gone,
and we'll actually have our PMA come out and he'll
(43:39):
do another raking and just double check everything and yeah,
making sure that it's actually in very good, top notch
position the way we want it to be.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And you look good, You look good. I feel good.
Yeah too, skinny. Oh yeah, I got a long way
to go. I'm glad you didn't bring donuts. Thank you.
I noticed that those things talk to me when you
bring him by the way. Well yeah, they were like,
hey Mike, you remember me? Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Well, right after Thanksgiving, I figured this is.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's what you don't usually on a Saturday, after you
say hey, I'm starving in the morning, like right, yeah, yeah.
I had a big family, so we just do the
stuff for days. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
We I took some some leftovers from my sister's home
and ate him yesterday, so I'm good. She knows that
I took a little.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
There was a lot of people to take leftovers, and
my sister Colleen and Maureen hosted out.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
We want to talk about etiquette. Is it proper? Is
it polite to show up with tupperware?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
My sister used to have us bring pie crust so
that we could put the leftovers and make pot pies
like it was really good. And Terry is like, do
you want to bring those? I said no, I won't.
So she she has all the all the tupperware that
you can put your leftovers in and bring home and
it was really good. Brandy, It's so good to see you.
Bing It's great to see you you also, I mean,
(45:01):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Both of you, gentlemen, have been such a strong proponent
for my business and a strong believer in the family
values that I end up holding that my family ends
up holding. I know you both believe in the exact
same thing, and you know, Bingo, with you having a
family run business, I know we talked back and forth
(45:22):
about different things that end up going on. But being
Thanksgiving time, I just want to thank you both for
all the support that you guys have been giving us all.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Thank you, especially for really my daughter was in a
jam with their roof and he bailed them out at
the warranty and everything. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Look, I I'm telling you, Jordan was up on my
roof at seventeen in the morning putting putting tarp up
to try to save our kitchen. And I tell that
story every time you're in because it had such a
big impact on us. So thank you, guys, and I
appreciate you saying that. I really do. Guys. Have a
good weekend, Bingo. See you next week, Randy. I know
(46:02):
you're gonna be on another show a week from now,
and it won't nearly be as much fun.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Ass is that show Stone Business?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh? I got nothing. This is the Creative Construction of
Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty and
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