05/21/2025 - Keith Wallen from Breaking Ben

Talking about the upcoming Stained and Breaking Benjamin concert on Sunday at Riverbend, expressing excitement about the weather and the show itself. Sara got a vampire facial to look good for the show and buying her own tickets as a Christmas gift for her husband. Chris plans to attend but doesn't intend to stand in the grass or stay for the whole show.⁣
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An update was provided on the New Orleans jailbreak, detailing how a jail maintenance worker, Sterling Williams, allegedly helped 10 prisoners escape by turning off the water to a toilet covering a hole. Some escapees have been recaptured, but others remain at large, with three charged with murder.⁣
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A sports segment covered the Cincinnati Reds' loss to the Pirates, college baseball updates, Bengals news including international marketing rights in Canada, the Indy500, and Florence Y'alls baseball with wrestling nights.⁣
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An interview with Keith from Breaking Benjamin covered touring, rehearsing, his solo work, and the financial aspects of the music industry, noting that merchandise is currently the most lucrative source of income compared to music streaming. ⁣
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Discussion included the passing of Norm from Cheers actor at age 76. Chris also shared a story about getting kicked out of the real Cheers bar in Boston for underage drinking years ago.⁣
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A segment on the show "Girls Next Door" discussed Holly Madison's recent comments about her time at the Playboy Mansion with Hugh Hefner, including her dislike of sharing him and group sex. The conversation included commentary on age gaps and relationships perceived as transactional.⁣
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The "Can I Sue" segment with attorney Stuart W. Penrose addressed legal questions from listeners regarding a prison not honoring a visitation order, mistreatment in jail including denial of medical care (a potential 1983 claim), wrongful termination related to a background check, and responsibility for a deceased parent's credit card debt.⁣

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
A big one today. Sarah Lee's talking to our buddy
Keith from Breaking Benjamin.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Later on, Oh yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, simply because concert season is here and it's very exciting.
And as we get closer and closer to the show,
the better and better the weather is looking. I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
It looks like, according to our friends at nine, a
high of sixty nine on Sunday. Yes, please, And Sarah's
got her face all we're getting ready.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, she got her face all tomatoed up. What is
that called? I got a vampire face?

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, got that way.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm nice and glowy for Sunday when I see all
of our wonderful listeners.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Can't wait.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
This is my favorite band. So and I've been looking
forward to this for like seven eight months now, and
everybody announced it.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Bought tickets Yep, that was my husband's Christmas gift.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
So yeah, people there, Oh don't you guys work there,
You get to go to all the football games, all
the Reds games. No, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
So if you see me in really good seats on Sunday,
that's because I saved up and bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Don't do your typical must be nice. Please do not
do that. Because she bought these tickets. Where I'm going
to be standing, which is walking out to my car,
is uh where we get treated. Please take a photo
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Let's do a side by side Chris's view versus Sarah's.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Look, I don't have my tickets yet. I'm gonna ask them.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
And we have to and we have to work there.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, you have to find a way to get in.
All I know is they told me, hey, we want
you guys there to broadcast from the tent thing there.
I'm like, okay, yeah, we'll be there. They'll get me
a ticket in, and I know where that's gonna end
up being. It'll be like a standing room only thing.
It'll be on the grass, yep. And I'm not going
to stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Look, I love her for ben I've been going to
concerts my whole life there, but I ain't standing in
the grass. I'll be honest, I'm a seat snob when
it comes to that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'll stay for whoever the last band is going to be.
I'll stay for maybe two songs of that and I'm leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
So h So you won't see any of Breaking ben
on some day.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Are they the closer? Oh, Christopher, Well, I don't know.
Stayin has been around a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Longer staying then Breaking ben Okay, so uh so, no
you won't see any of them.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, No, I just said I'll stay for maybe two
of the last whoever the last band is maybe two
of the songs? Okay, gotcha? Uh, and then I'll leave.
I'm not going to stand up in the grass watching
Breaking Benjamin.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I don't blame you, but at least the weather knock
on wood is supposed to be good for that, we
won't be sweating.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, even if I was sitting lawn. Yeah, if I
was fifth row, I wouldn't stay for a lot of
that because I want to beat the traffic.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh my god, she cares. We got the next day
off too. You have the next day. It's still going
to be working. I'm still going to do stuff. You
don't mean to wake up early on Monday and work
if you aren't going to get work done, just rust.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I'm still going to do Please take a break.
Somebody's got to keep the nose up and keep this
place afloat.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm glad you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, it's all on you because a day I die
of the format flips.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
I know.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
She don't die anytime soon. I'm not ready to leave this.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
And speaking of death, our guy on norm Sheeers, died
at the age.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Of seventy six. I know. I can tell you he's.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Still in his sleep too. That's the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, it is at that age. I was turning into
the eye doctor appointment for my daughter yesterday when I
heard that on on our news station. I was like, Ah,
everybody's like, what do you think he was gone?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Thought he was already dead.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, But I was kind of like laughing because they go,
oh on the news, They're like, no for his grete
one liners and stuff, and I'm all like, okay, yeah,
he's known for that, but he didn't write those. He's
an actor, I understand. But that's how we know him
as I know. But it's like they kind of give
him credit for being like the funny guy, and it's like, Okay, yeah,
he was a funny guy, but don't forget you know,

(03:48):
the writers behind the scenes are like, dude, what do
you want the news people to say?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Like, oh yeah, and don't forget the writers that made
him sound good.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, exactly. Give the writers some credit, but he just
read lines. That's what they should have said.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
He's so much more than that stuff. Rip to him though.
I remember watching Cheers with my parents growing up.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
So, oh yeah that show. I got kicked out of Cheers,
the real one in Boston because I was nineteen and
I was drinking. Really yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Was a long long time ago up and they caught on.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yes, I was there with a radio show. We were
broadcasting from there, and we went to, uh to Cheers
the night before.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I've never been there.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, and uh, I don't even know if it's still there.
I think they closed down. I think uh, I think
COVID got it.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh really, Oh, COVID got everything, even the Cheers bar.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think it did. I'm going to google this, but yeah,
I got we got booted out of there. It's not
it's not it's looks it's not not even close. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It says it opens at eleven o'clock this morning, right
there on Beacon Street in Boston.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Let's go so sleeve right now. Uh yeah, it was uh,
I got yeah, we got asked to leave because they
found out I was only nineteen.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh, Yeah, maybe they had some troubles during COVID and
then shut down, but it looks like they're back.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
They've got some good cocktails and food.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
That must have pissed them off. The day they announced
that Cheers is going off the air, They're like, what, Yeah,
I mean, it's Sarah right here. Oh, hi, to tell
us some stuff that's happening.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know, I'm obsessed with this jail break.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I am too.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I love it so much. I'm constantly tuned into what
the latest is. Yeah, So, in case you forgot, over
the weekend, ten prisoners broke out of the jail in
New Orleans, making it one of the biggest jail breaks.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, in US history. You can't tell if it's a
jail break or if they're looting a place.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm sorry, look, I know it's bad, but it's really funny.
I think I've watched that video at least a dozen times.
So now we know how the guys. The guys actually
did it. So on Tuesday was announced that they did
have some internal help. Now, Christopher, the other day, you
thought it was going to be some lady that was

(06:06):
working at the.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Jail that helped him out.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Definitely not the case, a jail maintenance worker came forward
and he admitted that he turned off the water to
a toilet that was covering a hole in the cell wall.
He came forward, well, I guess he admitted to it,
and they kind of started to question everybody and it
just kind of like worked out like, yeah, I'm the
one that did it. Like he knew he was eventually

(06:31):
going to get caught. So all ten men were able
to squeeze out of that whole dirty hole.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, it was gross.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
By moving the toilet and then you know, they rode
above the whole like too easy. So the worker, his
name is Sterling Williams. He's thirty three years old, and
he's now been charged and held on a one million
dollar bond. I guess he's now in the jail that
he was working at.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, he's digging a hole currently in a wall. Is
putting it cut in a hole in a wall to
get out. He knows the wave. Yeah, so dude, he's
got to get killed in jail now for being a snitch,
because they throw them back into jail, they're gonna be
like they're gonna stab them. I know, but I think
it's like this.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think that they saw it on the camera footage
and just knew. I mean, there was really no way
around it. But he is saying, this sterling guy is
saying that the guys had threatened them, that they were
gonna shank them. So that's his like whole reasoning behind
why he did it. Do we believe him?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
What do you think how much of this stuff you're
I mean, I want.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
To I want to believe him, Like, yeah, like his
life was on the line for all these ten dudes,
I would be terrified too, maybe. And I guess they
tried to steal a cell phone on the way out.
I don't think they got ahold of that.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Then why don't they just kind of instead of charging,
I'm just just say okay, uh, then then we're not
going to charge you. Then be our mole in the
prison and tell us what's going on, right, Like, let's
switch your job title here. We'll just stay in there
and keep doing what you're doing, but keep your ear
to the ground and keep us in the know what's
going on.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But now this sterling guy seems like he needs his
own security if his life is being threatened.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, and then don't understand that why don't think it
us these criminals sometimes to work for them.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, that'd be a good idea, especially that way this
sort of thing does not happen again with these guys
getting out.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Like when they bussies mafia guys, hm, you know, back
in the day or whatever, they bussies mafia guys. These
mafia guys, you know, you know they're going they rub
out dudes or whatever. But they they were always efficient
with their business always. Yeah. And it's like, well, why
don't you hire island But yeah, okay, Well to choose
these dudes to help find like when we were looking

(08:40):
for Osama bin Laden, that's who you need. Yeah, it's like, well,
to help us find this guy exactly took a little
too long. Yeah, And so we're about halfway.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
We are actually halfway to getting all ten guys back
in jail. So on Tuesday night they captured another one
of the escapees. He's nineteen years old. His name is
Cory Boyd. Five guys are left roaming whatever streets. Three
of those guys have been charged with murder. So some
bad dudes roaming around stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It makes you wonder if they're gonna get all of them.
But one, Yeah, what I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
One will be left for a few months.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, but it's like disguise yourself, like shave your head,
put some makeup on over the face, tattoos, even one
of your outfits, like.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Do you did one of those one of those glasses
with the fake makeup or like the fake mustache on
there and stuff should be stop by a party city
figure it out, like looking like the velastic pickle stork,
Like I'm not the criminal.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, I can see that stork. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Change your eggs in?

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Like take a page out of the book of the
Fugitive movie. Yeah right, let's just do it.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
They've all been cut literally just minutes away from this jail.
One was sleeping on the park bench. This guy, this
Cory guy the other day, just walk in the streets,
and then a few other the one was just under
a car in downtown New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's funny that these guys get caught. And I wouldn't
know who these guys are.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm on the radio, I have no idea, and I.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Am somebody, and nobody knows who the hell I am
when I go out places. That's true.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
If I saw these guys walking around OTR or even
walking around Kenwood Mall.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I wouldn't know. I don't know who anybody is
because I stare at the ground. You try to avoid
everyone that you can exactly. So well, thank you Sarah
for the update on that. Just another reason why we
don't well, I don't go out and go anywhere because
there's killers everywhere. You heard it. Yeah, away from Vienna.
They're hiding on their cars, They're walking around the windows shopping.

(10:37):
Hija kids, Hey, hij every They're wearing glasses but fake mustaches.
Just watch out. This is sports, let's say.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
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Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, morning, all happen Reds last night? I know what happened.
You shot your mouth off. Yeah yeah, for one of
the worst teams in the league. I know. And you
said a couple of years ago when I talked about
Joe Burrow and all this stuff about him getting hurt
and then hear theault hurt, you blame me for it.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
That was your fault. Okay, But what about get his
leg injury during practice.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Every time you shot, shoot your mouth off about the
other teams stink and they lose. You tell them, yeah,
you need to be more positive about stuff. You need
to stop being positive. They're going to take the Pirates.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I know this happening.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
Bailey Bailey Falter with seven strong innings and Pirates edge
and Reds last night one nothing. The five game win
streak comes to a halt against Sarah.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Falter allowed four hits and struck out five against Sarah.
The Red's losing exhausting.

Speaker 9 (11:57):
The Reds lose by a one nothing score for a
fourth time this season. Fourth they're eighth shutout in fifty games,
and the Reds are now oh to twenty when trailing
after six innings.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
They have a chance to win the series.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Today, though, Nick Martinez, if they can get the game out,
deserved a.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
Better fate six innings long a run on four hits.
The series wraps up today. Brady Singer going for Cincinnata
and the action to twelve thirty five.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I have some bad weather there today, though.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
How do you feel about looking good? How do you
feel about today's game?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Salyes, I just said, I know, but how do you
feel you can win the series today?

Speaker 9 (12:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Boy, there we go right there. How do you feel
about the Pirates?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's just facts that.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
They are one of the worst teams. Nice. Why are
you afraid to make in the league. I'm not I
stand by it. Okay.

Speaker 9 (12:48):
College baseball today at one thirty Big twelve first Round
action with Cincinnati Bearcats up against the Texas Tech and
tonight at six thirty in the Big East Tourney Et
Xavier up against Yukon. Congrats UC's Carrington Cross. He's been
named the Big twelve Baseball Player of the Year for
four to fourteen bat four fourteen batting average. There's that

(13:08):
number again with twelve home runs.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Pretty good.

Speaker 9 (13:11):
Yeah, let's see what former Mason standout. Jake the Snake
Hanley of Indiana. He's a he's a freshman. He's the
Big ten Baseball player of the year. Three thirty eight
batting average, fourteen homers, fifty two RBIs, no errors, and
four hundred chances in the field.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Wow, Jake the Snake. Yeah. Oh Man Bengals update.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
Let's see they're in the final week of Phase two
of their off season program.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Joe Joe Burrow.

Speaker 9 (13:40):
Met the media yesterday spoke to the masses about many topics,
including you hope he gets Trey hendricks and gets his
money first round puck As Shamar Stewart remains unsigned, he's
he's in a dispute over language in his contract since.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
He can't read it. Yeah, just did nobody want everybody
just wants to wait a minute, hold.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
On the first rounder that hasn't signed us.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Hold on?

Speaker 9 (14:04):
You know they got the problems with the stadium lease
and all that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
We have all kind of problem.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Wait a minute. Oh, here goes.

Speaker 9 (14:09):
The Bengals have been granted we international marketing rights in
Canada as part of the NFL's Global Markets Program. This
allows the Bengals to build a brand, build a brand,
awareness and fandom north of the border.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Here we go.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Montreal. I say they go to Newfoundland.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, but what are they gonna do about Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I don't know any want happen Tonto if they want
to sign them. And here and you know the Indy
five hundred Sunday. You know that, don't you?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
And don't winter y'alls are back in action tonight and
every Wednesday. They've got this wrestling Wednesday thing going on.
Do they do Do they do wrestling matches before every
game on Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
With local local wrestling? I guess so.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, we're gonna find out tonight every single Wednesday though.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
With the Florence y'alls. I think that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'll bring my belt and put it on the line
against anybody who comes off the stage.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
You could probably wrestle right there on the field.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, even if you bring a pet from home. I'll
take on an iguana. I'll take on a fish seg.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
What do you think about Bill Belichick and his girly
Jordan being engaged?

Speaker 9 (15:18):
Oh yeah, that's going right straight down disaster road.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Do you think he would coach the Toronto bengalsto.

Speaker 9 (15:27):
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
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(15:58):
coming up on Sunday, The Big Show. Stayed and Breaking
Benjamin And this is Keith or breaking Benjamin?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
How are you good? Many Keith? You know, I was
just thinking about this. It's got to be pretty easy
for you guys. I mean, it's all hits. You guys
go out, you know what people want. So at this point,
you guys could probably just stay home for the winner
and then when it's time to go on tour in
the summertime, you guys just meet at the first location
and just know the set lists that go out there
and just jam.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
You don't need to really rehearse. You played these songs
for so long.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Yeah, you know, if we don't know it by now exactly,
we got bigger problems. But yeah, no, you would get together,
you know, maybe a few days before the first show,
and you know, we get a set list go and
then you know, we run what we need to run
if we're adding something new, you know, something we haven't
played in a while, or something that we've never played.

(16:48):
You know, so some some of those kind of things
we've got to work on a little bit, but for
the most part, we pretty much know. You know, the
usual suspects of songs.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Right, And that's why I love seeing you guys so
much in concert. Know, every single song, every single time.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
The new single awaken, well, I guess because you know,
I mean it's new, so you guys like recorded it recently,
so it's in your head from recording it, so you
really don't need to rehearse it, right.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Yeah, No, it'll be fine. Let's just wing it, boys.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's the best kind of attitude to have. Yeah, I mean,
count me in. Yeah, I'll go see a band and uh,
I'll go and I'll look at that set list dot FM.
I see. I don't do that, you know, And then
afterwards I'll be like, oh man, why did I go
look at that?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know what I mean, be surprised.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
How do you feel about that? Yeah, how do you
feel about that? As the guy in the.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Band, I wouldn't do that. Yeah, personally, I kind of
want to be surprised. And oh man, they're playing you
know the you know, in the middle of the concert.
Like we did a show we did Louder than Life
a few years ago and Matalka was playing. We watched
their whole set and I just I've heard that they
were going to be playing this or that or whatever,
and I was like, I didn't care. I'm like, I
just want to experience. It's in the moment, and whatever

(18:02):
happens happens. But uh, you know, if people want to
look that stuff up, I mean, it doesn't bother me.
I mean, it's their own, it's they're live.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
We're talking to Keith ro Breaking Benjamin. Now, you know,
obviously you do other things other than being in Breaking Benjamin.
You've got solo stuff and you all you've also wrote
songs for other bands that become hits and all that stuff.
Now a lot of people don't know this that that's
where all the money is, right, It's not being in
a band, it's being a publisher.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
I mean it depends if the song's a hit.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh no, no, I didn't, no, one hundred percent. But
like there's guys out there, especially in like Nashville and
stuff that you don't even know. You don't know who
they are, nothing, but they're zillionaires because they just wrote hits.
But you don't know them. Yeah, you don't know them
walking down the street. And then there's guys that are
pop stars that you know their face, but they never

(18:50):
wrote a lick, but they're broke.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Yeah, yep, yeah, because see I uh, I get recognized
a little bit for bringing being in break band, and
I also write a few songs, but I'm still broke.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
So now I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say that's not true, you know,
because I started off like doing you know, pop music
on the radio, and then I did a lot of
alternative back in the nineties, and I used to watch
these uh, these chicks just get with these baby alternative
bands thinking that they're millionaires. There was this one band, uh,
I think they were out of Canada. They were called

(19:27):
Coward and they were a great band, but they they
didn't have two nickels and they had two songs on
the radio, and they disappeared. And then later on in
life I saw the singer and he worked for the
record company because they owed so much money to the
record company afterwards.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, and oh yeah, and it's a tale
as old as time.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yes, it really is.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
They owed money and these girls were getting with this
band left and right because they thought they were millionaires.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
As you can tell, Chris is very jealous right now.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
Honestly, these days, the most uh lucrative part of the
music industry in my opinion, and I.

Speaker 10 (20:09):
Hate to say this is March.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh yeah, well it's been told.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Corey Taylor told us that you think that the music
is how you make your money now, and it's not
that it's like the streaming and all that stuff has
changed the game.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yeah, it's a it's a little it is a little depressing.
You know, you're a little kid and you're first learning
how to play guitar and you're like, boy, it sure
would be cool to be able to make a living
playing music, but you know, nobody tells you that, like, well, yeah,
you might make a living, but you're just using the
music to sell the t shirts, right and interesting.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
So it's it's a little depressing.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
But you know, look, we we we love playing it,
we love touring, we love getting out there, and it's
still it's still worth it to all of us. And
you know, we we love putting out music and just
you know, speaking of we're still working on some new music.
We have our new song Awaken, it's out and U
still got some new stuff coming. Know, everybody's always blowing
us up, like where's the new app I've seen so

(21:03):
many memes of like skeletons sitting on like a park
fan waiting music, and I'm just like, all right, I
mean we're waiting too.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
So talking to keithrom Breaking Benjamin here, and they're here,
of course on Sunday with Stained. Has Ben ever heard
one of your solo songs? I went, God, damn it,
I wish you sent that to us.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Honestly, Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah, that's all. I was kind of taken back by
it a little bit because so a few years ago,
right after covid uh we we came out. We we
did this kind of acoustic tour. I think it was
twenty twenty one and so, and I opened for Breaking band.
So I just played like a solo acoustic set, and
then the band played an acoustic set after me. But

(21:48):
you know, I played some of my songs and then
Ben came over and was just like, hey, you know
that one song is got I have a song called
dream Away. He's like that one song, you know, he
like sings.

Speaker 11 (21:57):
A little bit.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
He's just like, you know.

Speaker 10 (21:58):
What the F man?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
What the F?

Speaker 7 (22:03):
Yeah? And I'm just like what what. I took it
as a compliment.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
That is a compliment.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
How do you separate the two. It's not like you're
doing hip hop solo stuff and then rock for Breaking Benjamin,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, well it's easy.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
All of my best ideas I say for myself.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Man, Yeah, that's right. Okay, I'll send that clip the
loud wire.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
I'm I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Start using that.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm gonna start using that quote.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
I think whenever it's in the writing process, I kind
of have in mind, like, all right, this is for
Breaking Bend. Yeah right, this is for my own stuff,
and uh, and just.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Go from there. Sunday at River Bend, Breaking Benjamin Stained
two great bands. You know, every single song Breaking Benjamin
puts on an awesome show to shake that.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is my tenth time
seeing you guys. I'm so excited. This was my gift
to my husband for Christmas concert tickets.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yeah, it were That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
And she bought tickets because I was like, I don't
trust the ones we'll get, they won't be good.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Hey, next time, next time any of you guys need
tickets or whatever, you just hit me, hit me up.
I got you, So don't worry about that.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Don't tell me twice, Keith, because I will.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, she will. Dude, you're in trouble now, I know.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
Oh I don't.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
I don't mind at all.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
All right, Well, we appreciate you so much. We are
so excited for a Memorial Day weekend. We are going
to be broadcasting live out there, making a whole thing
of it.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
So it's gonna be cool.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
I'm so stoked to see you guys. We're so stoked
to play Cincinnati again. I mean, we love it there obviously,
first concert. It's one of my favorite venues. And man,
we can't thank you guys enough for all the support
over the years, and uh, looking forward to it, y'all.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, for sure. And you know I'll text you here
in a second when you get the solo album out,
drop me, drop me a line and I'll get you
on for that so we can pimp that as well.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Okay, Oh man, that would be so amazing. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, dude, for real? All right, man, all right, take care, Keith,
Thanks man.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
I see you guys.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Thank you. It's gonna be a good one this weekend
because of uh, we'll breaking Benjamin. You've got to be
fired up because it seems like, uh, you know, we're
buddies with Keith and then uh you know Shroom is
friends with the drummer dude.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
There our guys Sean, our local friends.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, and I mean it's like, uh, I think.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
He's neighbors with Seg?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Is he really? I think so? Yeah, I Middletown Sean.
Do you think he like the kid next door? The
drummer kid? He'll deal with'll modelaw.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't think Seg has ever moded a lawn before.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, he's a banging the drum. I gotta get up
early to do sports, doesn't he know.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
No, it'll be a great time on Sunday though, we're
the whole W E b N staff is going to
be out there. We're doing a live broadcast. I think
we have to be there by four. Yeah, but man,
I've been missing concert season.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I know it's back and it's going to be a
perfect day to go out there so far.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Now, one reminder, do not ask Angry Rodney for anything.
Don't ask him for a sticker, just don't even you
know what, just don't even talk to Angry Rodney.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's something really nice, do something nice to him, you
know you guys give him a Yeah, give him a cigarette.
He smokes. I think they're Marlboro Reds, So if you
smoke Marlboro Reds, give him a cigarette.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, Because you know what Rodney does so much?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Please, Yes, that's the first thing I do when I
walk in to River Bend. I always go buy him
a beer and I bring it over to him.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
He does so much for everybody.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
And he had to put the status up yesterday on
Facebook like stop, yeah, give him a hard time about
tickets and everything if you don't talk to him in
real life.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's like you could just say, hello, Rodney.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm in a good mood today. But I look up
on the screen and I see, uh, you know, he's
here to bother us again, Country Jeff, the drunk drifter
who bothered me yesterday. I don't want to talk to you, Jeff. Goodbye,
see you later too.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I go back to New Jersey or Philadelphia or wherever
they hell you think you came from.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I think I came from.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, because you know what you're representing, Cincinnati at all.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Got to become Country Jeff.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
WB in show.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Okay, alright, man, you know, and and I feel really
bad for you.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Man.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Once you're gonna have to start getting SSI checked. If
you get one, I doubt you can.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Amen.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
All right, why are you so mad at me?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
For am? No?

Speaker 4 (26:35):
I'm serious? Why why are you so angry towards me?

Speaker 5 (26:39):
I didn't steal your wife.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I didn't steal your life. I'm a comedian, all right, man?
You know what, I think you need some professional mental health.
Maybe you need to go to g C B myther.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I knew it was going to cust me out. I
was ready for it's out. I just got word. Uh breaking.
Benjamin's going to cover this live for us.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
You need to get these lyrics, don't.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah break Yeah, and Stane's going to cover it too.
Imagine dormal shine. Oh yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
So excited for this concert on Sunday. I can't believe
it's almost here. Yeah, and knock on wood, good weather
for to a high of sixty nine. I will take
that for a concert. I won't be sweating the whole night.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Hey, don't forget. Stuart W. Penrose is coming up very
soon too, in about twenty minutes. To take your legal
question if you have one, Okay, he's our attorney from
the Uh what is that place.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Called Manila Long Group where he works.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
That is Sarah Elise. Oh hi, Hi, she's so excited.
I am. There's a lot to look forward to so
far this weekend.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm just excited to get a couple extra days of sleep.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
We didn't really talk about this too much on air,
but last week I watched my parents' dogs while they
were out on a cruise.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And these dogs, as cute as they.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Are, they're devils all the worst.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Did not let me sleep my mom. Brenda Elise is like,
how did the whole sleeping thing go? Well, I didn't
get any Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Sorry to be negative, Sarah and bring the room down,
but you know some of us don't live with their
dogs anymore, so uh yeah, yeah, live it up.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Oh my gosh, why would you say that we'll get
the dog in the.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
No, I know I don't want to take them away
from the kids.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Are you going to get a dog for your new
place now.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Because I am some company?

Speaker 5 (29:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Because I don't want to cheat on my dogs. And
also I don't want to pay the monthly fee. It's
eighty five bucks a month.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I don't blame you for that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
What about a cat?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You don't want to get the little puma running that.
Oh if I have that thing running around your apartment, well.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
If I could get a hookup for that, someone knows
how to get an exotic cat. I'm serious, kid, Chris
dot com hit, Yep, thank you.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
It's your little apartment. I love that wild literally wild.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
But you can go visit your dogs whenever you want to.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Right, I'm there every day, good go good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well remember that Girl's next Door show on E I
was obsessed, you know, with the three playboy bunnies that
they all dated Hugh Hefner and that the Mansion.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes, you love this show.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I know this sounds weird, but I would watch it
with my mom every single week.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I know, we loved it. The women love to
watch other women live the best life.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, that's why I like watching The Bachelor where all
of the bachelorette girlies are there.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, because it's so real life. They that when you
hook up with a guy and fall in love with him,
you know, within a month you your life is flying
to France on a helicopter and heaven exactly Gelato.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's why those relationships never work out, because you don't
have all that glamorous life.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
You're booted right out after the show's over to cameras
turn off, you're right back to Arkansas and you're in
an apartment going to.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Applebee's on a Friday night, which actually we are doing
that this weekend. Yes, they've got those all you can
eat chicken tenders and riblets for like twenty bucks.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm like, I'm in Yeah, no, helicopter there. That's how
it's the little thing.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
So okay, So the next Door, the Girl's next Door show,
you remember Holly Madison.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
She was like the main girl. That's right.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
She was Heff's number one is what they called her.
So she was with them for seven years and says
that she truly did love this man.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, which is always the case whenever you start off
a conversation with that, like what, someone goes, I really
did love them? Yeah, like with someone goes, look I'm
not a racist, but but.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Okay, I'm interested, keep going, Yeah, did.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You love the wallet or was it really.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
He stop if he's flipping burgers. Yeah, I want to
know how you really felt. So she was just on
a podcast the other day talking about her relationship with
Helf and her time at the mansion. She said the
one thing she hated the most and found to be
absolutely disgusting was.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
That he was an old man and that he was disgusting, horrible.
But and he was rich. I really hated that he
was rich because because if he wasn't, I would have
nothing to do with him anyways, end a podcast.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
So what she hated the most is that she had
to share him, and she hated the group sex. Apparently
Heff was a big fan of the group stuff. Yeah,
and she said she made it known to him plenty
of times. She's like, look, you know I love you.
I know you love me, but I don't like having
all the other women in here and I don't want
to share you.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh is that why? Just because she loved him? Because
so I did that for my man.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, right, if you want get to have money, just
do whatever you gotta do at this.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
If he walked into the room and said, hey, ladies,
before we get it on, I just found out for
my accountant, I lost everything. Hey, where are you guys going?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Well, let me just pack up my things.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, where are you going?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Just grab as.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Much as you can on the way out. I think
she probably.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Hated it too.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Because he was ninety when they were all having sex. Yeah,
No way in hell is he putting any effort in that.
So they're probably doing all of the work.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, and felt like she.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Was hooking up with the girls more than him. What
I'm imagining here.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Look, I feel like I'm going to have a heart
attack when I'm doing it so on and I'm fifty one,
right and this guy's ninety.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah right, I'm exhausted thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
No kidd, so, she said, Even with their fifty three
year age difference, She said, when it was just the
two of them, she goes. Believe it or not, the
sex was completely normal and very intimate.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, because she was holding dollar bills over her eyes.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
That's a mask, she said. His number one rule though,
for in the bedroom. What do you think it was
to hold the bag of cash. No, he always wanted
the lights to be off.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
Think of my old sack as a sack of cash.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Smells like money.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, maybe that's a perfumer war. I'm gonna spray on
some thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Girls didn't get enough money having the hook up with
that for seven years.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
No, fan, I love that he's dead. They trash now
they can do the podcast. Yeah, they trashing them now,
well you know.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
They probably had to sign some sort of NDA or
whatever that they can't be talking about their personal life.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, wait till this worm's eating me and then you
can talk about me.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah wait, yeah, wait till you're below.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
So she also said, uh, Holly had talked on this
podcast about the weird things that were around the house.
She said, the weirdest thing is that he had these
trays set up everywhere by the in the bedroom, by
the bedroom, out by the pool, the tennis court, in
the gym, everywhere kind of.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
She said.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
It was a tray and it always included Kleenex, pepto, bismol, vaseline,
baby oil, and sunscreen. She said it was kind of
like a makeshift makeshift lube. She said it was really weird.
The trays were just everywhere, so they just always lubed
and ready, I guess.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah. And plus you probably get some diddy stuff to
walk outside to go to the you go sit out
by the pool or something. You probably didn't want to
have to go walk around looking for uh, you know,
sunscreen and stuff. So he probably was like, just have
it everywhere. Jesus Christ, I'm hef just lube all over
the house. Yeah that too.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
So there you go, some uh inside info on what
was going on the mansion during the Girl's next door.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Still, I would still watch that show again. It was
so good.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I love how the guys majorly successful. He could get
what he wants, and then the guy dies and everybody
trashes him perfectly.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
He was so weird.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I know, and she's looked at as the guy.
We're supposed to pity her. Oh that's terrible. Man. You
should be able to just a gold dig without having
to deal with all that.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Can that girl just be a gold digger without this set?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Geez?

Speaker 10 (35:22):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Whatever happened to the gold good old days? Where you
get his gold dig and I have to deal with this.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I don't have to put efforts the money, I forbid.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I think about that Jordan girl dating Bill Belichick. They've
been together now for a few years. We got the
fifty year age gap.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, and she doing and she's doing more than him.
She's protecting him.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
I know.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I feel like she's kind of like his agents at
this point, looking after his money, his reputation, everything.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
But it's kind of damaging it.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I have no problem with what she's doing, none more
forward to.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
They're both getting out of this what they want, so
you know what, I'm happy for them. And they really
are engaged, and.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
All he cares about is football in her Yeah, And
they do this interview to talk about the book and
all that stuff, and you know, this guy goes on
TV and tries to start pushing him around about his
personal life that she jumped in and said, no, we're
not talking.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
We're here to talk about the book. And he does
come to her defense. He shows up for her Miss
Main pageant. They seem like they're all about each other
and they're not hurting anyone.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
The only people that are screaming about this are these
sports hosts and stuff who are there. There's sexualities questionable
in the first place, because they they get mad about
Taylor swiping around and all that stuff. All they want
to see are guys in the locker room, showered up
in their towels, smacking each other on the assaying good game.
And they get mad with girls around, so they're in question.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Why would you be mad at this beautiful woman that's
hanging out on this sideline, Yeah, supporting her?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Man about that? I care about plays and guys laying
on top of each other. Sure, keep these gross girls
out of the deaf cooties.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Don't even show them on during the broadcast as you're
either No girls.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I can't wait till it's all back, just to see
all the dudes get mad.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, I love it. Well, thank you, Sarah Elise.

Speaker 12 (37:16):
It's time for ken I sue with Stuart W. Penrose
from the Manilo Law Group. Call now with your legal
questions five one three seven four nine one O two seven.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Can I sue? We got a lot of stuff happening today,
Stuart W. Penrose, Do we know? We got Brian, Kayla,
Matt and Rebecca all wanting to talk to you. People
can call into at five one three seven nine one
O two seven if you want in to ask a
legal question. All right, Rebecca, let's hear it.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (37:50):
So I have this friend who was convicted of prime
sitting in prison right now. He's in the appeals process.
The judge said that his children could visit him if
they were supervised by an approved visitor.

Speaker 10 (38:04):
That is in his sentencing.

Speaker 13 (38:06):
There's a court order for it. Everything they applied to
the prison. The prison says no, they deny it, kids
can't come. They appeal the decision, send in the court order.
The prison says no, and they say it's a safety concern.
So what what can we do to get the prison
to uphold this court order?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well?

Speaker 11 (38:28):
I think that needs to go back to the judge
on this. It sounds like you already did that though,
huh yeah, Okay. What did the judge say when they appealed?

Speaker 13 (38:40):
He said that the kids, he said the kids are allowed,
but the prison still said no.

Speaker 11 (38:45):
Okay, I have no idea if the you know what
the prison policy is on these types of things, uh,
and what kind of facility it is. So I can
understand at least the theory.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Of it, But what's the point of getting a judge
making a judge?

Speaker 11 (38:58):
They could potentially be in contempt of an order. It
needs to go back to the judge. Okay, yeah, it
needs to go back to the judge to explain what
happened and they could potentially have a contempt. I don't
know you do a contempt for an entire prison, but right,
because they could.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
What's the point of having a judge if he has
no power?

Speaker 11 (39:15):
Sure? But right, I'm not sure if the prison policy
might supersede if there's some sort of legitimate you know,
legitimate security is concerned. I have no idea, but it
needs to go back to the judge. I can tell
you that.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Who is his friend? Are you the mother of the children? No,
I am not.

Speaker 10 (39:35):
No, I am not, but it's a friend of mine.

Speaker 13 (39:40):
But it's like, I mean, they're at their wits end.

Speaker 10 (39:43):
They don't know what to do.

Speaker 13 (39:44):
Like they've talked to the warden, and the warden doesn't
understand what's going on, and it's.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Just a whole, big old mess. So we don't even
know what to do.

Speaker 13 (39:52):
It's literally the person who approves visitation that said no,
and when they appealed it and they again said no,
and then give this be a story about safety concerns.
There's no safety concerns.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So the judge and then the other person in charge,
the wharton, is like, I don't know what charge? Why
did you disappoint yourself in charge?

Speaker 7 (40:19):
That sounds like a good idea.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I mean, yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 13 (40:25):
So is there anything legally that we can do?

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Because just keep throwing it up the flagpole at the judge,
the judges, I mean, eventually he's going to get pissed
that nobody's listening to him, and then really stir it up.

Speaker 11 (40:38):
There could be someone a contempt order. If the if
they're you know, not a buying by a court order.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
It needs to go to the thank you guys, Thank you, Rebecca,
get you to thank you.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
But I can absolutely understand how there could be a security.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Of course, it's a prison and the smells individuals. Yeah, right, right, well,
I don't know if they go into the cells, watch Jesus.
I mean, I mean, I will It always comes back
to that. Well, I mean, that's what goes on. Sarah
doesn't know the whole story about the the guy that
would use syrup and toss salad.

Speaker 11 (41:15):
I don't want to know, Chris, I just don't want
to know what.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
All right five one three seven four nine one o
two seven is You don't know about the toss salad
man five would three you know what it means?

Speaker 11 (41:27):
Ignorance is bliss?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I know, just I don't even want to think about
jail sex.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Please stop enough, it's jail romance. It's not just about sex,
all right, that's your life, that's your point of.

Speaker 11 (41:39):
Sarah puppets Life.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Seven four nine two seven. If you have a question
for the legitimate lawyers me. And then there's Stuart W. Penrose, Ryan,
what's up?

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Hey, are you guys doing today?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Good?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Good, let's hear it man.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Okay, I'll try it. It's a little bit of a story,
but I'll try to keep it yo short here.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Oh no.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Back in January, car caught on fire. I was sleeping
in our car and uh didn't I got my whole
blanket caught on fire.

Speaker 11 (42:12):
The car caught on fire.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
While yeah, okay, go ahead at my mom's house. And
there just wasn't up for him over there, and our
daughter was in the house and me and my wife's
like health that would just sleep out in the car, okay,
But we had a little candle going out there trying
to save gas, and uh, it caught them. The car
caught on fire. My wife got up and the blanket
caught went to the edge of the just the edge

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of blake caught. The flame caught on fire. I woke
up in golf some flames. Instead of going to the
hospital like most people would, I went to jail. And
I went to jail because I accidentally missed a child
support hearing for a review hearing. Now I pay my
child support. I've reduced what my rearage was immensely over
the last year, and they but they put me in

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jail during this forty three days. I had three strokes
while in the camp jail, and the last stroke I
had they left me laying on the ground for about
forty five minutes before they even did anything with me.
And you can take me to the hospital or nothing.
I now have diminished motor skills, in memory issues, and

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well that's about it in a nutshell.

Speaker 11 (43:19):
How long ago did this happen?

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I got up, you forgot.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
February twenty third. I got out February twenty third.

Speaker 12 (43:28):
I think it was.

Speaker 11 (43:29):
I'm sorry to hear about the strokes. I've seen how
tough that can be. I think I've got an idea
of what you're looking to do. But tell us.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
What do you mean? Well? Who is this? Tell you
what I want?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
What I wanted to do?

Speaker 11 (43:45):
Yes, what are you looking to do here?

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Are you looking to go after and ask you what
I can do?

Speaker 12 (43:50):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (43:50):
Are you looking to go after the jail for a
civil lawsuit over this? Or what is it that you're
looking to do?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Trying to find out what my legal options are here.

Speaker 11 (44:03):
Yep, mistreatment in jails and by police are considered nineteen
eighty three claims. I mean, if you're there and you
are having a stroke and you obviously need medical treatment,
they're denying it to you. You know, that would fall
under a nineteen eighty three claim. You need to find
a lawyer that you know that handles nineteen eighty three claims.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Okay, and that's what you need.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
I've never heard of nineteen eighty three c nineteen eighty
three claim, but okay.

Speaker 11 (44:27):
Yep, that's that's what it would fall under a nineteen
eighty three claim, you know, suits against police, jails, et cetera.
That's what it would fall under. And if they're you know,
denying you medical care, you know, it's it's it's a
form of abuse. So and it's not like you just
had a cut or something. You're having a stroke and
you had three strokes. So that's what you need to
find as a lawyer that does nineteen eighty three claims

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and talk to them about this.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Okay, Well, I mean I have called a couple of
lawyers and they're trying to tell me I had to
have a couple of thousand dollars for all kinds of
crazy stuff.

Speaker 11 (44:58):
Understand, understand, I mean they're not going to work for free.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, nobody works for free, sir, do you Well?

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Well, I mean most lawyers that take take a case
of sizeable pay out at the end of it.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Take some cases.

Speaker 11 (45:15):
Some cases work on a contingency. Like I'm a personal
injury attorney. My types of cases work on a contingency.
A lot of cases don't lend themselves to that. I'm
not sure how lawyers that do nineteen eighty three claims
build their cases.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
But you know, some what you're doing three cases since
you work on contingencies.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I'm sorry, he said you should do the.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Nineteen eighty three claims since you work on contingencies.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah you should.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (45:40):
Well, thanks for telling me how to run my practice.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Hey, and I got you.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, I mean, listen, man, all this stuff is hard,
especially uh, I mean working against the Uh well, I
guess it would would that be a government? Yeah, the man.
I mean, they have certain protections, so a lot of
people won't want to touch those kind of.

Speaker 11 (46:00):
Yeah, but you you want a lawyer free claims that
has a significant experience with it, and yeah, if they
build by the hour, they build by the hour. I
mean there's a cost to you know, there's a cost
to work with attorneys and hire attorneys and do that.
So that's something you've got to decide for yourself whether
that's something you want to do. No one's gonna do
it for free for you.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, it's a bigger risk for them too. It's a
lot of a lot of more, a lot more time,
a lot more work, and it's a bigger risk.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
All right, Well, thanks for your advice. Ye, Yeah, that's
what I got all day.

Speaker 12 (46:36):
You too.

Speaker 11 (46:38):
He didn't like my advice that I wasn't going to
work for free for him. Why won't you a lawyer
work for free for me? Why can't I tell them
to change their their fear agreement to work on contingency?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (46:46):
Why can't I dictate everything in the world?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Right, If I'm gonna get screwed, you should get screwed too.

Speaker 11 (46:52):
Yeah, there's some pieces missing from that story.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
After talking to him, Yeah, yeah, right, Why were you
sleeping in the car because you didn't want to be
at home when they were come looking for you? There's
a lit Why did you have a cancel on in
the car? Yeah, I don't know Matt, You ready to
talk to Stuart W. Penrose. Okay.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
So I worked at Indiana University and they went through
my background twice on me. So I had to, you know,
go through a real high exposed background. I ain't been perfect,
but so I'd worked there like two years. They promoted
me and they were getting ready to make me a
general manager. Well, new people came in and they fired
me from my background. Said I didn't disposed my background,

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and I'd made it there for two years, went through
the whole legal process. They fired me twice for it.
They fired me the first time, brought me back. They
humiliated me and like bamed me from the premises, you know,
for having a drug charge in my past.

Speaker 10 (47:45):
But like I disclosed all that information and they tried
to tell me.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
I didn't, you know, called the police on me and
lied and said all these things. And I was just wondering,
you know, do I have a lawsuit there.

Speaker 11 (47:56):
Well, there's a lot to unpacked there. I have no
idea what the background checking tails or not. And if
something came up later that didn't come up earlier, you
disclosed everything. Yeah, I don't know. You need to talk
to an employment attorney to unpack all that with you.
I could certainly get you linked up with somebody that
can go through all.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Of that with you.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Sounds good. Yeah, but I disclosed everything. There's nothing that like,
I'm not telling you. You know, I'm not leaving anything out.
We went with like they fired me, and we went
through it twice so like and then they just come
on all of a sudden one day when I was
getting ready to get promoted and fired me again.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
At least at least new people. Yes, yes, yeah, that's
probably why.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Yeah, but you know it's the same company, it's just different,
you know, different people took over. You know, it was
just it was a weird.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
It was a tough situation.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Man.

Speaker 7 (48:41):
We can get today.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Well, I mean, but new owners or new people or whatever,
I mean, new management, they have different policies, so that
could be the case too, Okay, I understand.

Speaker 11 (48:52):
Yeah, yeah, we can get your information. I could get
your linked up with an employment order to talk to.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
All right.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
I appreciate you guys, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, I got your number. Uh wait, this is Matt right,
Yes it is. Yeah, I'll send it. I'll give the
info to the steward.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Okay, all right, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hey Dave, what's up man?

Speaker 10 (49:12):
Hey love listening, Neil, thank you. So my parents live
in Ohio and my father passed away like three weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Sorry here and.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (49:25):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (49:26):
Dan had a couple of credit cards in his name.
Would my mother be responsible for those balances?

Speaker 11 (49:34):
I don't know. I don't know if she was a
co signer on it, if she was an authorized user,
I'm not sure. But his estate needs to go through
the probate court, and everything needs to be handled through
the probate court.

Speaker 10 (49:44):
Okay, yeah, yeah, her name name on him and this
one signer or anything.

Speaker 11 (49:48):
Like that, and she's not responsible for somebody else's debt.
I just don't know if she was an authorized user
or what the fine print was at the end of
the day in terms of her name. But if her
name is completely off of it, I don't see how
she to be responsible because you're not responsible for someone
else's debt. But as a state, will need to go
through the probate courts and if they make a if

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they file as a creditor against the estate, they have
the opportunity to do that.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
But what about the house, what's whose names on the house?

Speaker 10 (50:17):
They rented a house.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (50:19):
The only thing that was in their name was their car. Uh,
there's a little bit of life insurance money.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Not much. Okay, are you going to take mom in?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I sure all the best. Look,
I'm I feel like I'm an expert at this because
I had to deal with this with my mom. Uh,
you know, with the when she died and stuff. Everybody listening,
get your stuff in order, because it's it's a mess

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if you don't have a will and all that stuff
and you're not a kid. Yeah, and all you're doing
is paying an attorney to sort all this stuff out
because you have to do it. But when their name
is on it and these people start calling and going, hey,
we need the money, we want the money, they're doing
that just to try to get something out of you,
because some people will get spooked and just send money.

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Your name's not on it, you don't owe them anything.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (51:13):
And I used to work as a bill collector, Okay,
I was one of the nice guys. Yeah, And I
told her, I said, if they call you more than once,
tell them cease and desist.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Okay, I didn't know that word.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
It down on a post it and hung it by
the phone.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, to know. So I know, my sister
started getting my mom's mail sent to her house, which
I don't know why, and uh and then uh and
then she picked up the phone when the cable company
called and said, well, you owe us money for the
spectrum bill whatever. And she called me, she goes, what
do I do pay this bill? I said, no, your
name's not right. Your name's on Wendy. You don't pay

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her bill.

Speaker 11 (51:49):
Yeah, and if it goes through probate, they have a
certain amount of time to make a uh, to file
as a creditor to this state.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
That's right. And we had my mom had some money somehow,
my my attorney found you know, some money that was
shelled away that my mom had and we had to
sit and wait a certain window for all these creditors.
They sent out a letter to all these people that
were owed money on the credit cards or whatever, and
they had to say, yeah, they owed this woman owes

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this to us, this to us, this to us. And
none of them stake claim, not even the people that
were calling the harass and my sister for TheCable company,
they were harassing her, but they never claimed that we
owed them money or my mom owed them money. So
we ended up just splitting it between the three of us.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
There you go.

Speaker 10 (52:36):
Hey, I had to do it with my follower and wall.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (52:38):
And so you send out the postcards then you know,
you get them back then you have your hearing.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
And there was one creditor that they were I'll keep
it clean, were on the air. But anyhow, they called
us the day after the hearing, and I love telling
them you missed about yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yepe you there. Well listen, they have insurance and all
that stuff, so they're fine. But listen, dude, thank you
and good luck with everything. Sorry about the passing there.

Speaker 10 (53:12):
Yep, thank you guy.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
You take care yep, see you bye bye. All right,
but there you go. Stuart W. Penrose, How do people
get a hold of you if they want to talk
to you about well, your specialty, which is a personal injury.

Speaker 11 (53:22):
Yep, they can reach us to the Manilo Lag group
at five one three seven two three sixteen hundred. Thanks
for the echo.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Then, well we're like a rap group.

Speaker 11 (53:33):
What's her name?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Uh, a Glory Whole.

Speaker 11 (53:38):
That's a good name, a different one, but I'm not
going to say it.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
All right, And Stuart Stuart W. Penrose on Twitter x whenever.
He's a big sports guy, so you can hit him
up on there if you want to talk sports. Okay.
Loves the Ohio State University. Next time you see him, Jesus.
And that's scarlet and gray.

Speaker 11 (53:58):
I mean back in Michigan this weekend.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Okay. And also soccer. You like soccer too, so yep,
all right, very good. Stuart will do it again next week. Okay.
Al right, you guys,