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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Ryan Hied myself.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's good professional, tell you what.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Very good to see you. Dave Logan, my friend, how
are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Great fellas? Good to see both of you. Good to
see you too. What are you drinking there? It's a
little uh got a little protein shake? Oh? Really?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Is that a normal thing for you? You a protein shake guy? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah,
I gotta gotta do it, like protein shake? Do you
like him? I do?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I do? I listen this protein uh in here? This
one every day. But it's a it's a like a
clear protein, so I can drink it.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
With clear protein. Yes, Like what does that? What does
that mean? It's not a it's not a shake.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well, yes, it's not like a shake, right, And I'm
usually mix it with like a celsius so that I
can what's that, dude?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You're like ripping and pumped at the same time at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Man, just just getting that metabolism. What is in that?
What is what is in here? Officially vodka?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, it's it's it's like it's like I don't know,
it's a clear prot it's a clrootine power that's just clear.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's like berry flavors.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
See stuff. I'm having a hard time with this. How
can a powder, the essence of a powder be clear, well,
it mixes in clear well.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Obviously when you put like water in, it's dilute a place.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Because as athletes, we drink some of the most terrible
I mean talk about the eighties and nineties protein shakes.
I mean you you were drinking chalk. Yes, so that's one.
Always interested We're like, okay, well what is that?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What kind of I kind of like the chalk, okay
with chalk.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Some of these were so bad. Day will tell you.
Some of these were so bad. You're like, I'm for
sure killing my kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I mean I I'll do both.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I had. We have ones that you would mix with
like milk or.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Something like that, like those kind of protein shakes, and
then this one's one that I mix with with just
water and celsius.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And that's what I do every day. All right, it's
working for you, It's.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Very much working for me. Also some stuff. This weekend
was a very busy one. Obviously, we'll get to some
of the Final four reaction as well as the National Championship,
which is are nuggets Dave.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yes, just in case you were pondering, and I apologize
for the head cold. But if you were pondering asking me, so, Dave,
do you still feel as confident as you were maybe
six weeks ago about the Nuggets, my answer would be no,
I have not liked what I've seen, and yes, I'll
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never be quite as worried as you because it's just
not in my nature.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
However, Panny can I don't do well together. Just waiting
for the other side of this, but there it is.
I would like to see them play. I mean, my god,
what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know? I mean defensively last night?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
That was a maddening game for me to It's like,
could anybody exert any sort of effort defensively? And I
don't know, man, I mean, right now, they've got three
games left, They're they're in significant danger of falling all
the way to the play in right.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Anywhere between three and eight are in play for them.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, I I'm still
if they get in, I'm still riding with the Nuggets,
you know, I know getting Jamal back will help.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
If so, you don't think he's is he not coming back?
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Michael Malone non committal. Yesterday he said the hope. You
know what hope does to everybody, So the hope is
to have him back for the postseason. Well, hope's a discipline.
Now I think this is I believe this is a
little bit of a rope a dope. What has been
the number one critique of Michael Malone. He's not resting
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in Kola, right, He's not resting Jamal. Has Jamal earned rest?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's a whole nother conversation, right, Still don't have a
backup center. I know DeAndre Jordan's in there and gets
a couple of minutes a night, but you don't have
anybody playing ten minutes to spell Nicole Jokis like he
needs to. So I think what he's doing. I think
Michael Malone saw last year they were tired at the end,
and he's trying to give him a little bit of
break here, even though there's some days between games, trying
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to give him a little bit of break before you.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Go in that championship run.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So you think this is kind of a repeat of
twenty twenty three when we meet. I want to seek
for to day I was going like, this team does
not look ready to play, They do not look like
they're a championship content.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Fo. Yeah, you basically dismissed him.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Basically you dismissed their chances of making a significant run
prior to the start.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I absolutely did so, as long as long as you
know you were wrong in that there's a maybe there's
a significant chance that I'm wrong this year. And I
look at you got you got very very wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You got Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Junior not playing
to their potential. Aaron one night looks like if Nicola
sits for three weeks, we're gonna be fine. And last
night's got five points over thirty minutes unacceptable And he
would tell you that, right And that tells me there
may be working on things that they're not as great
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at right now. I mean, Michael Porter Junior clearly has
a lot off the court happening. And is he mature
enough to be able to flip that switch? And right now,
the two questions to me, it's an inconsistency of Aaron
Gordon and the lack of consistency which has been a
constant issue for Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well then we have our when we have Dave's guy,
Russell Westbrook, and I tell.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You what, that's your boy. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Did you see his press conference or whatever version of
a press conference that was for like a minute and
ten in case people missed it. This is the level
of maturity that a veteran like Russell Westbrook is giving
off right now and get right again in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm not sure, be honest.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Your conscious mentioned the urgency of the situation trying to
avoid the play in right now?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Do you feel like in this locker and there's a
sense of urgency?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, man, you know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Pas Michael Morris called this team one the most resilient
league this season.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You obviously are able to draw from so many experiences,
like can you kind of try to draw from to
to help this team where you're going?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh, I don't have to ask them for you, mat
I wish I did, but unforce you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I know you know what's frustrating the most right now?
I mean prices do say yeah, of course the confidenceive
description can figure something out the next three games and
you know, on the right path.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Had the postas.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I hope, as I I can't speak to everybody in
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But yeah, my essays, I am you ready for to say,
I'm just here so I won't get fine.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm a Marshall Lynch. H channel is inner Marshall Lynch.
I don't know, man, I don't know what to saying.
He apparently heard from the NBA, from the league office,
they said you can't keep ducking the media, and so
this was his Marshawn Lynch moment. I'm showing up here,
I'm standing here. You're asking me questions. I'm doing my
best to evade those questions. And how fast can we
get this thing done? Leadership?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Hashtag leadership. So yeah, you're not going to get me
to disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I mean, I I can make a living of disagreeing
with you, but I can't disagree with you on this.
I didn't like that. I don't like what any professional
athlete doesn't listen, man, no matter who it is, you're
you're making really good money.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And if one if one of the members of the.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Media happen to ask you a question that is out
of bounds or you know, just a lousy question, there's
a way to handle it. Maybe you don't have to
take a question from that individual member of the media again,
because there are there are some, but there are some
people out there that are sort of got you people.
(08:25):
They try to they try to set you up with
a question, and we've got some here now, there are
some in every single town, So I get that. But
to me, there's an obligation as a professional athlete two
to do when requested media and to answer questions and
and do the best you can with them because it's
(08:48):
set up so that people outside, like the fans, can
get to know you a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it's I know, it's different.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I mean, got players that have podcasts and they have,
you know, the their own platforms and then they can
control their own message.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I get all that, not mad at them, but I
didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And I've been a Westbrook proponent because I think I think,
even though he's made some really bad plays recently, I
still think he brings energy, he brings rebounding, he brings
a willingness to try to stay in front of the ball,
which other guys right now I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I didn't like I didn't like that last night
at all, and not a good interview.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Not a good look. Also a very different team than
than the Nuggets. You think about whats Nicole Yocha is
gonna give you after a game, you know, probably similar things.
I agree that when it gets to the playoffs, he
may be the only person on the roster who's going
to bark back to another player, and you need that
in the playoffs. I do believe this is indicative.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Of a bigger issue.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Tell me one free agent for the Nuggets that is
found a home here with coach Malone. I mean Kntavious Calwell.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Pope, but that was a trade, I know, but like
he's not here anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, I mean it seems from the outside looking in
that Coach Malone has his guys and anybody that comes
in is just supposed to play this relegated role. There's
not really room to play in. And he just to me,
when you bring in a free agent, especially in the NBA,
oftentimes they stay right. Lakers say hello, right, bringing over,
(10:25):
bringing over Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So I just think that one of the.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Next steps for coach Malone, which he would tell you,
and every single coach and every single player would tell you,
you're always growing if you want to be successful. He
has to grow in the culture where those who are
new get to play in even some of the young
players on the roster have had trouble getting consistent minutes.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, that that's where I was going to go with that,
and honestly, more in recent history, we've been talking about
coach Malone not playing the rookies or not playing the
younger players and sometimes going to some of the vets instead.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean Darnosarus to your point, he barely sees the floor, right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He was supposed to be sort of your backup big
and he can't find a home.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He can't find any minutes at all. This is a
guy who has played basketball in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Now now you're forced because Jamal's out. Now you're really
forced to play a lot of minutes with Russell Westbrook.
And as David we talked about it, and I know
he gave you a little bit of crap there, because
I actually liked the Russell Westbrook signing too. I will
say that, but I said at the time, and I
continue to say, you're going to have to accept the
good with the bad with Russ like it's always going
to be that, Like he plays the game a certain way,
and he usually wears that is welcome a certain way.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
He is such a wild card.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You get to the postseason and if Jamal can't go
or he's super limited, this is going to be the
Achilles Heill for this.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Team in my opinion. Talking about the lack of depth, well,
the lack.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Of depth mixed with the fact that you have to
play what Russell Westbrook the amount of minutes you have
to play him. It'd be great to come off the
bench and have him as a supporting cast role. But
if you have to play him starters minutes because Jamal's
not available, that's significant.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, but what is the option that would be Mike
ris See listen the more I see of Jalen Pickett,
and again I was an advocate to try to get
him some tick a little bit earlier, but I mean
he is he is going to be not a good
matchup defensively. He's not big enough nor athletic enough to
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be I don't think the kind of defender that you
have to have. I mean last night as an example,
when he's in the game late Indiana, whomever.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He's on is going right at him right, So you know,
I look at this bench.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
We've what we've done, I think as a fan base,
and I've been guilty of this too, is we've seen
the greatness of Nikola Jokic, and at times we've seen
Jamal Murray prove that he can be one of the
better players in the league. Prolific sc so when he's
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and then just filling the blank when he's healthy, when
his head's right, when he's whatever, you know, whatever he's
that he can do it and do it at a high,
high level.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right. We've seen Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
We've talked about his lack of defensive rebounding, but we've
seen him at times knockdown three pointers at crucial moments,
and so we we buy into that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We've seen a g you.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Know, be forced into sort of a lesser role when
coming a few years back because he was a prolific
scorer at Orlando, good defensive player, low post, athletic, best defender,
spotty perimeter shooter at times knocks him down at times doesn't.
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We've seen Christian Brown, good defender, willing plays hard but
still inconsistent, although he played great last night, Consistent, inconsistent
from the perimeter. So what we've done is because of
the greatness of Jokic. We've we've just said, hey, you
know what, all these things are going to work out.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Everything's going to work out, and the reality.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Of it is, right now, I feel less confident about
what's sitting on the bench and having to come in
to spel. I mean, you know, Ryan made the good
point about the post play, right, Who's that going to
be in a playoff series? Dispel Jokic when he's off
the court. They have a hard time finding somebody without Jamal,
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somebody that can score. They can't, they can't score points,
and they can't stop anybody.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I you know, I'm still going to ride.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
With him and just hope that Jamal comes back and
he's healthy. But man, I don't I don't feel good
about what I've seen the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now I'm in that same boat, and I'll take a
different lens in that we just saw this with the Chiefs, right.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh, we got the guy. We got the guy.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And I'm saying all of us sitting here saying I
trust the cole jocicch over anybody for twenty games. Yeah,
that's a that's a head you make, that's a dollar
you know, milkshake, bet, whatever you make with your friends.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's not how you win. You have to win as
a team.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And to your point earlier about Russell Westbrook now becoming
a starter, well there's two things. There's becoming the starter
where you haven't been spoken to or coached all season,
and there's becoming the starter when you've been in the
mix all year, when coach has been talking to you.
Coach has said, hey, you know, even though you got
seven minutes last night, Ryan, I really want to talk
about this possession. Doesn't sound like that's happening with coach Malone.
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And one of the things that people overlook with Phil
Jackson and his monumental run and across two different franchises,
he coached every player on that team, and from the
outside looking in, it looks like Malone says, we got
the best player. We know Jamal is going to be
able to put up thirty in the playoffs. We know
Michael Porter Junior might get US fifteen, but it's going
to be key fifteen points. But those are three players.
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You know, what are you getting out of Aaron Gordon?
He is getting older and I saw the small moment.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
There's always a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Small moment when you're a player and you're aging Russell
Westbrook last night, I think it was in the second
quarters driving to the left and falls down.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
He fell down like nobody tripped him.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Like that was one of those moments where you're like, oh,
I got this, I don't got that speed. I've been
there and I did that walk in the studio. I mean,
you feel this happens, and then what happens is it
changes your confidence every time you're going, you know it changed.
So now you've got a coaching issue, a confidence issue,
and an age issue with one of the players that
you're depending on.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'm sorry, by the way, Dave, I was so busy
filming you falling down.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I didn't offer to help pick you up.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That was me.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's just kind of the age we live in, right.
People are so busy taking photos of the people over
day with the camera.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It was a shot. It'll be up in the website.
Can you match?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It would be so crushed. I get like, I get
trusted enough for the stuff I do. But that that
right there, like Dave's lay there, Ryan filming him like
that looks like it hurt. Anyways, Listen, I think that's
all that's all appropriate. I don't think to your point, Dave,
if there's any reason to jump off bandwagons or not
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believe that the team can sort of turn things around,
because a couple of years ago they showed us the
exact same thing. They didn't look quite like they should
right before the playoffs, and then maybe there was a
bit of a rope it upe there and all of
a sudden they went on a historic run sixteen to
four records. So, given the benefit of the doubt, the
problem here the one the one thing I see is
a bit of an impediment to this is you don't
know where you're going to finish now in the standings.
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At that point you knew you were the one, like
you had all of that locked up. It was done here.
You're anywhere from three until eight, and two of those
spots are playing games, which is of course where they
absolutely do not want to be. And the remaining schedule
here is not one that they're gonna be able to
walk in and just show up for Sacramentos. At the
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nine they're playing, they're gonna want that road that's on
the road. You're back home against Memphis. That's a massive
game for Memphis, and for the Nuggets, now the Houston game,
the final game on Sunday afternoon, kuston. Houston might have
nothing to play for at that point, so there's a
possibility that you could be gifted that or Houston might
show up and say, actually, we can stick you in
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the play and we're gonna go ahead and do that. Yeah,
and then they play them on the other side of that.
So there's this all sorts of things at play here.
But it's a wild thing to look at the standings.
As we were just sort of talking about, you have
was it one, two, three, four, five teams all with
thirty two losses?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah? Three through seven, three through seven, Oh no, no, four
to through four through eight, four through eight. Yeah, Lakers
have thirty losses. At three. There's two problems. One.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean last night in general, they were just outplayed.
I mean there's Nicole Yolkic got lost in the passing
lanes on defense that usually doesn't happen. They're they're getting
beat two rebounds, I mean, just little effort things. You
also didn't play at all, like you were protecting the house.
I mean, that's why that under armour commercial was so
popular back in that every half. Hey, this is home field,
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home court, home eyes. We protect this. We we have
to have another level here and those things are just missing.
And at the end of the day, though, it doesn't
matter what seat you are, doesn't matter if you're a
championship team, you are going.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
To play whoever, wherever, whenever. It just doesn't feel to
me like the jujuw is right, Yeah, just the you know,
I'm a watching the game.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm a body language guy, demeanor, facial expressions. I don't know, man,
And I'm not jumping on I'm telling you right now,
I'm riding with these dudes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wherever for however long they're in it.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Because you want to be a Thunder fan tomorrow certainly, No,
not like ever others.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, I love the way they built that roster.
What do you say they had how many? How many
top five choices? Are not you?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You pick a guy that's driving an Uber right now,
nothing against an Uber driver, by the way, Like I'm
twenty five. Then let's say you're going south right now
as you approach Bellevue, hank the horn real quick. Pick
that guy right there that just punked the horn. He
could put a pretty damn good roster together with that
many of draft picks, No freaking yes, yes, they.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Got out from Paul George at the exact right time.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
How many how many top ten draft choices?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right? Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
A lot?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And they're still going into twenty thirty and beyond. You
know what I do.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
What I'd say for a lot of people in colding
Sam Pressy, who's the GM there, and especially for you,
they better hit this year, bro okay, but you better
win an NBA championship this year with a team that's
gonna win when it's all said and done. Probably what
sixty six, Yeah, they're gonna be like sixty six and
sixteen sixty four right now. Don't don't wind up getting
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beat at any point in the postseason, especially with young roster.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I just the way I like the way they put
that singletary expected you did do that, you can't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I just like the way they put that thing together.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That's all I just didn't admire from pure basketball at.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The way the Dodgers put the roster together.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
To Tom how that player didn't develop.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And then if you had the first pick in the
draft this year, okay, would you not take Cooper Flag,
tough choice, uber driver, do it?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
There you go. That's my point. That's my point with him.
I cannot you don't do it. I want winners. I'm
that poplectic. I cannot believe that that's your comp for
this argument.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I mean, I mean, they've had so many top choices,
virtually impossible.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You're gonna pick Cooper Flag. The Nuggets traded the pick
to Utah for Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You gotta taste on that. That was a bad trade.
You gotta hit Cooper Flag first pick.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Say no, yes? Are you say no? We're not doing
the show anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm not sold on that guy. Man, what I am
not sold on it?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Did you see the game? Get the hell out? Did
you see him miss the shot?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He's not a guy.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
He's the only guy who had a basket the last
thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Cast in key situations. I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
All I'm saying is.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Stick the kickstep and playing tax man.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They can say that's what they said to me when
I said the Broncos win eleven games last year, ten
outside of a field go they went eleven. I just
don't see it. I don't see it in Cooper Flag.
I think he'll be a great player.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think he's gonna be just fine.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
The Mursian multip no point, no, no, you need to
stick with your hand in the dirt identifying five texts
or nine texts. You gotta kick step a little bit wider.
Just stay right in your lane because basketball ain't your
favor I.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Really care money, very excited to be here with you,
Ryan Harry and Dave Logan, Ryanos.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
When we come back, Ian A Rappaport.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Is gonna d us.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
We'll get the latest on the NFL draft, what he
thought about so you pro day all that.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Coming up next.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Speaker 6 (23:22):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah? Doing good?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Ian appreciate appreciate the time as we UH have have
wrapped up the owners meetings. Anything come out of those
meetings in your mind that maybe was a bit of
a surprise and a qualifier or a caveat follow up
question the Toush push put on hold until May.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What what do you expect to happen with that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'll start with the surprise. You know, I was a little.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Surprised at the proposal to recede or to not receive,
but to allow a division winner to not host a
home game. I'm surprised that is still live because I
think a.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Lot of times, you know, teams make proposals.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
You'd like people to consider it, but you know, like
it's not really something that's gonna get a ton of looks,
and that kind of did. And I thought that was
really interesting because it was like, you know, like you
want the NFL is a division based league, right, if
you win your division, you get all the things, right,
you get.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Sometimes you know, you get a home game, or you
get multiple home games.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
But this sort of introduced the possibility that if you
win your division, but maybe you have a losing record,
you might not get a home game.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And I was surprised at.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
How many people were like, you know what, that makes
a little bit of sense, let's keep this alive. I
kind of think it makes sense too. I just was,
I just, you know, people hold their home games so close,
but then again, if you don't have a winning record,
you really deserve it, so I thought that was an
interesting thing. Not surprised that Sush push is going to
get another look in May.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
My guess is that.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It gets rewritten a little bit. And you know, me
just personally.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Like I've never understood it, Like it's not really football.
It's pushing and pulling a player rather than letting him
score whatever on his own skill basically, So I could
see a situation where they say, you know, we're not
going to target the Eagles, They're not gonna out of
the play, We're gonna out all pushing in general, and
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trust that the officials can officiate it. And I wouldn't
be surprised if that happens to me.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, it'd be tough for an official to make that call.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And Ian I was on.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The field for the Bush push before it became the
test push.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
To make the official you think it'd be tough for
the officials.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, I don't think. I think that it would have
to be a demonstrative shove. And I can already hear
in the meeting rooms. You know, hands got to be
on both hips or both you know, in the square.
I mean, how are you going to really see that?
And then of course the offensive players are going to
start putting their shoulder and not using their hands into
the back of their quarterback, making a dangerous play even
more dangerous. You know. But I want to go back
to what you're talking about with the you could win
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the division but not host a playoff game. I mean,
isn't this Bill O'Brien's fault in the Falcons fault. Isn't
that why this has come up because teams have Yeah,
I mean, isn't it a process of what has happened
in the past in the NFL?
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Well, you know, so, let's talk about the Seahawks Saints
game where he had the beast quick right, Yeah, I
mean that was a undermanned Seattle team that finished with
a losing record, hosted a playoff game, and then won.
And what obviously is the decision, since it's still alive,
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is that that was not warranted, Like they did not
deserve that home game and they shouldn't have won, but
they got the advantage because they had the home game,
so therefore they won. Like that's clearly the NFL looking
back at being like this wasn't right. I don't you know,
I don't know how to deal. I mean, that was
one of the great moments of an NFL history. But
that was clearly the thought. It's like if a team
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without a winning record host a game and wins, and
it's not right, and that was I mean, that's that's
sort of a clear rebuke I think from the NFL owners.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Ian Rothbort joining us here, I want to talk about
Steve's Pro day coming off of Friday and sort of
the reaction. I thought it was interesting and I heard
some of your comments this morning on pan Acafe. You
were talking a little bit about how well, hey, Travis
Hunter decided not to do any kind of dB drills,
how did the teams react to that, as well as
Shador Sanders and the padding of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Seems to be a lot of conversation on that. What
was your reaction to all that.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Well, first on the Shador, you know, I get why
everyone's on and for patting the ball because anything they do,
anything he does, somebody would find something wrong with. That's
just the reality, and he knows it, and so he
can sort of like fight back against critics.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But that's his reality.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Then his realities into his five years old. Since he
has the same last name as one of the greatest players,
one of the most well known players of all time. Right,
So I mean, I'm I'm fine with it because that's
just the way it works. If your name is Shadoor
Sanders and he has turned aroun on two programs have
not been traditional winners. He is a great player. He
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may not do things like other people. And now, I mean,
I've seen plenty of quarterbacks about the ball. But okay,
you want to criticize it, Okay, cool, Like people aren't perfect.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's really fine. It's more just.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Like this is what it's going to be like. And
he's ready for it. I don't know if we're all
ready for it, but I think he's ready for it.
And you know, as far as as Travis Hunter, I
was interested that he ran routes. I was interested that
he didn't do DBI drills, you know. And my guess
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would have been he'd want to be a lockdown corner
rather than a receiver. But maybe not. And I think
if you're a team that drafts him, like, you know,
do you ask him and see what do you want
to play? Do you say we're drafting you? Is this
like what a team writes down is actually going to
be kind of a big deal When it dressed him.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, and receivers get paid more than corners, so I
like him trying to trying to head the market a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
They sure do.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And you know, I my last question for you, Ashton Genty.
I mean I watched the film. I get it, he
got he has amazing rushing ability. But when you hear
gms and coaches talk about him, the one thing that
always comes up in some way somehow, has you got
to be able to pick up the blitz things like that?
What were what were the what are the things you're
hearing about Ashton Genty? And how the NFL is looking
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at him even though no one argues he was a
prolific college running back.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Prolific player.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
You're right, well, first of all, that's why to stay
on the field as a pro is to pick up
the blazer. If you can't, you will be just a
running back and then you will be everyone will know
you're running when you're in the game like that is
that is obviously a focus. And if it's you know,
if he doesn't do it well enough for NFL people,
then you hope he could learn.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
But you know, I think that you know him being
if he is.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
A three down back, he has more value. He's a
first and second out back. He has not as much value. Right,
what no one will debate is just how freaking good
he is. So so I think he'll go. I think
he'll go early. I could see him in the top fifteen.
But you know where you project. His ability to stay
on the field will definitely go a long way in
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determining what his value is.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Ian always appreciated man. We'll check him in the next week.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Okay, look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Taking Thank you, Ian Rapaport, our NFL Network insider.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You know, are you down on Jack Ashton Jenny?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I think he's going to be a very good player.
You're talking to a man who won a Super Bowl
with two guys at running back who are not who
are not first round picks. And when I think of
first round picks at running back, I think about King Henry, right,
I think about who's the young man I'm forgetting his
name right now who went to Tampa won the Super
Bowl there. So I mean, you just have to have
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a tremendous amount of ability. And at the end of
the day, Ashton, Jen, you want him to block Patrick
Queen on what like? That's a mismatch. And let me
tell you what defensive coordinators are going to do. They're
going to bring that mismatch to the point where as
an offensive coach, your best plan is going to have
him be to bluff the blitzer and get to the flat.
Well that's getting shut down now by his own coverage,
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and you got problems.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You got some real problems. Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I was.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I was surprised when I saw some of the video
with him just in shorts. I was surprised how thick
he is. Yeah, you know you knew he had. I mean,
you just have to look at the film and know
he's got great skill, got unbelievable balance, breaks a lot
of tackles. It'll be tougher in the NFL most obviously,
But when I saw him, I'm like, oh wow, okay,
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he's he's going to be built for this job.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So I do.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I do agree that, you know, blitz pickup is going
to be crucial for him, because defensive coaches are smart
enough that with some of their looks they can force
that back to stay in right. So but I don't
have any doubt again, with his strength and eyes. I
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mean to me, that may just very well be technique
on how to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Even if he has the right technique, though he's so
short to where I think some of the linebackers in
this league are gonna be able to get their hands
up and deflect the ball. And that's none. That's a
situation where hey, you picked up the blitz, you did
the right technique, but they're still getting there and now
you got to Now you've got a real problem, all.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Right, thinking about this. Ye, here's the scenario for both
of you. Right, We're in the back of a police
cruiser and you turn to me, either one of you,
and you say a sentence that has four words in it.
(32:45):
What's the sentence. I'm a little bit ahead because I
thought about this. Get me out of here, Get me
out of here. Okay, I'm to you Ryan, in particular,
I would look at you and say, did you do it?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Did you do it? It was him, officer, It was him. Okay,
that's good. That bad?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It was so man?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh man, you're like you.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Got a cop a pleet like right away, Hey, hey.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Look, the statistics with me in this car with you
guys are not very good.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Okay, you guys, You guys get.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Deals eventually, it's coming on. I've seen all the movie mo.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
If you don't say it, the prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Is gonna get anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
While I was in there, I probably don't even know
you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
If I hyphen eight one armed, I say it's the
one armed man and feel really clever about myself.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Right, yeah, exactly. A little future reference there that's interesting,
is this scenario.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That happened over the weekend or yeah, you know, no comment,
you'll comment, know what your what your sentence would be?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You get four wards? Four words? All right, well you
know what, we've got a couple more hours. Yeah, five, six, six,
nine zero. What will your four words forwards? So you
are you the your person that got arrested.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Both in the back of the police so it's already
out you see how that happened with you guys. We
don't even know what happened. I'm out there.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's why it was It.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Was him officer, Yeah, okay, politely, politely it was him, presient.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's hysterical. I uh yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I guess putting myself in a situation like that one
in the back.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Of a police have not I don't think you're not
fit in the back of one of those times I do.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I've gone along with you know, does that work? Could
you say I don't fit back their officer.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Well, it's been a few years, but I have, I have,
I don't be a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, I don't think then they make it comfortable back
there for a reason.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
No, okay, yeah I don't. The officer is in there. Yeah,
you try it, you try it. You know, it doesn't
have to ask. That's what I was told all my life,
very very quickly with the end. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I thought for you that dog thought about dogs sits here.
The dog being a canine cruiser could be the dog
sits here. The dog sits here.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah. Yeah, you see the shedding and everything.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Right, that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
A couple of things here, I do want to see
you stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But we had a couple of texts on the Kaekmma
spirital text line, this one asking our rookie running backs
normally good at Blitz pickup coming out of college.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No, God, no, no, I'll be and I'll be honest.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's a that's a yeoman's job. That is lunch pale work. Now,
if you can do it, you might get a couple
extra carries. If you're not necessarily good running back. If
you're a great running back and can't pick up the blitz,
there are gonna be limitations on your opportunities.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
This one, I do think Sean loves him some chanty,
but Ryan Harris's credit on that statement. I think that
the guy they like is Trevon Henderson, maybe Quinn Seann Judges.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I love both of those players. And look, Chuckkins is
just as good to me as Henderson. But I thought
you'd have like a little bit of a sour feeling.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, Dan will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
When I watch football, really any sport, and a team's
doing it the right way, Oh, I'm I'm thrilled for
the players on that field. And that's what Ohio State did.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
They played the game correctly, They ran.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
The right plays, made the right calls, The players knew
what was going on. They used three different staff counts
even though they were winning the whole game, right. I
mean that kind of competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I appreciate that some four words people have what did
you do? What did you do? Okay? I like that.
This one is suggestion for me says please call Please
call my mom. Yourself. I mean, it's just just got
money and maybe I need some.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
If you're not asking, if it's too late.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Damn kids, Damn, that was fun. Again. You don't know
what you did or what the other person did. Damn,
that was fun. Mike, be inappropriate. Let's do it again.
Don't call my wife. It's another one that sounds like
experience right there. Who are these guys try that? You
can't try that. I don't even know why I'm here,
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all right, So yeah, keep those rolling. Those are fun.
On the ko Comma Spirit Health text line, we'll come back.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I do want to talk about the CU thing with
Travis Hunter not opting to do anything any dB drills.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm fascinated to get your answer on that. We'll get
to the next
Hi, Ryan Hied myself.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's good professional, tell you what.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Very good to see you. Dave Logan, my friend, how
are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Great fellas? Good to see both of you. Good to
see you too. What are you drinking there? It's a
little uh got a little protein shake? Oh? Really?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Is that a normal thing for you? You a protein shake guy? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah,
I gotta gotta do it, like protein shake? Do you
like him? I do?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I do? I listen this protein uh in here? This
one every day. But it's a it's a like a
clear protein, so I can drink it.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
With clear protein. Yes, Like what does that? What does
that mean? It's not a it's not a shake.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well, yes, it's not like a shake, right, And I'm
usually mix it with like a celsius so that I
can what's that, dude?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You're like ripping and pumped at the same time at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Man, just just getting that metabolism. What is in that?
What is what is in here? Officially vodka?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, it's it's it's like it's like I don't know,
it's a clear prot it's a clrootine power that's just clear.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's like berry flavors.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
See stuff. I'm having a hard time with this. How
can a powder, the essence of a powder be clear, well,
it mixes in clear well.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Obviously when you put like water in, it's dilute a place.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Because as athletes, we drink some of the most terrible
I mean talk about the eighties and nineties protein shakes.
I mean you you were drinking chalk. Yes, so that's one.
Always interested We're like, okay, well what is that?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What kind of I kind of like the chalk, okay
with chalk.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Some of these were so bad. Day will tell you.
Some of these were so bad. You're like, I'm for
sure killing my kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I mean I I'll do both.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I had. We have ones that you would mix with
like milk or.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Something like that, like those kind of protein shakes, and
then this one's one that I mix with with just
water and celsius.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And that's what I do every day. All right, it's
working for you, It's.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Very much working for me. Also some stuff. This weekend
was a very busy one. Obviously, we'll get to some
of the Final four reaction as well as the National Championship,
which is are nuggets Dave.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yes, just in case you were pondering, and I apologize
for the head cold. But if you were pondering asking me, so, Dave,
do you still feel as confident as you were maybe
six weeks ago about the Nuggets, my answer would be no,
I have not liked what I've seen, and yes, I'll
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never be quite as worried as you because it's just
not in my nature.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
However, Panny can I don't do well together. Just waiting
for the other side of this, but there it is.
I would like to see them play. I mean, my god,
what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know? I mean defensively last night?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
That was a maddening game for me to It's like,
could anybody exert any sort of effort defensively? And I
don't know, man, I mean, right now, they've got three
games left, They're they're in significant danger of falling all
the way to the play in right.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Anywhere between three and eight are in play for them.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, I I'm still
if they get in, I'm still riding with the Nuggets,
you know, I know getting Jamal back will help.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
If so, you don't think he's is he not coming back?
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Michael Malone non committal. Yesterday he said the hope. You
know what hope does to everybody, So the hope is
to have him back for the postseason. Well, hope's a discipline.
Now I think this is I believe this is a
little bit of a rope a dope. What has been
the number one critique of Michael Malone. He's not resting
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in Kola, right, He's not resting Jamal. Has Jamal earned rest?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's a whole nother conversation, right, Still don't have a
backup center. I know DeAndre Jordan's in there and gets
a couple of minutes a night, but you don't have
anybody playing ten minutes to spell Nicole Jokis like he
needs to. So I think what he's doing. I think
Michael Malone saw last year they were tired at the end,
and he's trying to give him a little bit of
break here, even though there's some days between games, trying
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to give him a little bit of break before you.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Go in that championship run.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So you think this is kind of a repeat of
twenty twenty three when we meet. I want to seek
for to day I was going like, this team does
not look ready to play, They do not look like
they're a championship content.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Fo. Yeah, you basically dismissed him.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Basically you dismissed their chances of making a significant run
prior to the start.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I absolutely did so, as long as long as you
know you were wrong in that there's a maybe there's
a significant chance that I'm wrong this year. And I
look at you got you got very very wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You got Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Junior not playing
to their potential. Aaron one night looks like if Nicola
sits for three weeks, we're gonna be fine. And last
night's got five points over thirty minutes unacceptable And he
would tell you that, right And that tells me there
may be working on things that they're not as great
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at right now. I mean, Michael Porter Junior clearly has
a lot off the court happening. And is he mature
enough to be able to flip that switch? And right now,
the two questions to me, it's an inconsistency of Aaron
Gordon and the lack of consistency which has been a
constant issue for Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well then we have our when we have Dave's guy,
Russell Westbrook, and I tell.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You what, that's your boy. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Did you see his press conference or whatever version of
a press conference that was for like a minute and
ten in case people missed it. This is the level
of maturity that a veteran like Russell Westbrook is giving
off right now and get right again in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm not sure, be honest.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Your conscious mentioned the urgency of the situation trying to
avoid the play in right now?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Do you feel like in this locker and there's a
sense of urgency?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, man, you know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Pas Michael Morris called this team one the most resilient
league this season.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You obviously are able to draw from so many experiences,
like can you kind of try to draw from to
to help this team where you're going?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh, I don't have to ask them for you, mat
I wish I did, but unforce you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I know you know what's frustrating the most right now?
I mean prices do say yeah, of course the confidenceive
description can figure something out the next three games and
you know, on the right path.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Had the postas.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I hope, as I I can't speak to everybody in
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But yeah, my essays, I am you ready for to say,
I'm just here so I won't get fine.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm a Marshall Lynch. H channel is inner Marshall Lynch.
I don't know, man, I don't know what to saying.
He apparently heard from the NBA, from the league office,
they said you can't keep ducking the media, and so
this was his Marshawn Lynch moment. I'm showing up here,
I'm standing here. You're asking me questions. I'm doing my
best to evade those questions. And how fast can we
get this thing done? Leadership?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Hashtag leadership. So yeah, you're not going to get me
to disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I mean, I I can make a living of disagreeing
with you, but I can't disagree with you on this.
I didn't like that. I don't like what any professional
athlete doesn't listen, man, no matter who it is, you're
you're making really good money.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And if one if one of the members of the.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Media happen to ask you a question that is out
of bounds or you know, just a lousy question, there's
a way to handle it. Maybe you don't have to
take a question from that individual member of the media again,
because there are there are some, but there are some
people out there that are sort of got you people.
(08:25):
They try to they try to set you up with
a question, and we've got some here now, there are
some in every single town, So I get that. But
to me, there's an obligation as a professional athlete two
to do when requested media and to answer questions and
and do the best you can with them because it's
(08:48):
set up so that people outside, like the fans, can
get to know you a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it's I know, it's different.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I mean, got players that have podcasts and they have,
you know, the their own platforms and then they can
control their own message.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I get all that, not mad at them, but I
didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And I've been a Westbrook proponent because I think I think,
even though he's made some really bad plays recently, I
still think he brings energy, he brings rebounding, he brings
a willingness to try to stay in front of the ball,
which other guys right now I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I didn't like I didn't like that last night
at all, and not a good interview.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Not a good look. Also a very different team than
than the Nuggets. You think about whats Nicole Yocha is
gonna give you after a game, you know, probably similar things.
I agree that when it gets to the playoffs, he
may be the only person on the roster who's going
to bark back to another player, and you need that
in the playoffs. I do believe this is indicative.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Of a bigger issue.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Tell me one free agent for the Nuggets that is
found a home here with coach Malone. I mean Kntavious Calwell.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Pope, but that was a trade, I know, but like
he's not here anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, I mean it seems from the outside looking in
that Coach Malone has his guys and anybody that comes
in is just supposed to play this relegated role. There's
not really room to play in. And he just to me,
when you bring in a free agent, especially in the NBA,
oftentimes they stay right. Lakers say hello, right, bringing over,
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bringing over Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So I just think that one of the.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Next steps for coach Malone, which he would tell you,
and every single coach and every single player would tell you,
you're always growing if you want to be successful. He
has to grow in the culture where those who are
new get to play in even some of the young
players on the roster have had trouble getting consistent minutes.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, that that's where I was going to go with that,
and honestly, more in recent history, we've been talking about
coach Malone not playing the rookies or not playing the
younger players and sometimes going to some of the vets instead.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean Darnosarus to your point, he barely sees the floor, right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He was supposed to be sort of your backup big
and he can't find a home.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He can't find any minutes at all. This is a
guy who has played basketball in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Now now you're forced because Jamal's out. Now you're really
forced to play a lot of minutes with Russell Westbrook.
And as David we talked about it, and I know
he gave you a little bit of crap there, because
I actually liked the Russell Westbrook signing too. I will
say that, but I said at the time, and I
continue to say, you're going to have to accept the
good with the bad with Russ like it's always going
to be that, Like he plays the game a certain way,
and he usually wears that is welcome a certain way.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
He is such a wild card.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You get to the postseason and if Jamal can't go
or he's super limited, this is going to be the
Achilles Heill for this.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Team in my opinion. Talking about the lack of depth, well,
the lack.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Of depth mixed with the fact that you have to
play what Russell Westbrook the amount of minutes you have
to play him. It'd be great to come off the
bench and have him as a supporting cast role. But
if you have to play him starters minutes because Jamal's
not available, that's significant.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, but what is the option that would be Mike
ris See listen the more I see of Jalen Pickett,
and again I was an advocate to try to get
him some tick a little bit earlier, but I mean
he is he is going to be not a good
matchup defensively. He's not big enough nor athletic enough to
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be I don't think the kind of defender that you
have to have. I mean last night as an example,
when he's in the game late Indiana, whomever.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He's on is going right at him right, So you know,
I look at this bench.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
We've what we've done, I think as a fan base,
and I've been guilty of this too, is we've seen
the greatness of Nikola Jokic, and at times we've seen
Jamal Murray prove that he can be one of the
better players in the league. Prolific sc so when he's
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and then just filling the blank when he's healthy, when
his head's right, when he's whatever, you know, whatever he's
that he can do it and do it at a high,
high level.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right. We've seen Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
We've talked about his lack of defensive rebounding, but we've
seen him at times knockdown three pointers at crucial moments,
and so we we buy into that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We've seen a g you.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Know, be forced into sort of a lesser role when
coming a few years back because he was a prolific
scorer at Orlando, good defensive player, low post, athletic, best defender,
spotty perimeter shooter at times knocks him down at times doesn't.
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We've seen Christian Brown, good defender, willing plays hard but
still inconsistent, although he played great last night, Consistent, inconsistent
from the perimeter. So what we've done is because of
the greatness of Jokic. We've we've just said, hey, you
know what, all these things are going to work out.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Everything's going to work out, and the reality.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Of it is, right now, I feel less confident about
what's sitting on the bench and having to come in
to spel. I mean, you know, Ryan made the good
point about the post play, right, Who's that going to
be in a playoff series? Dispel Jokic when he's off
the court. They have a hard time finding somebody without Jamal,
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somebody that can score. They can't, they can't score points,
and they can't stop anybody.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I you know, I'm still going to ride.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
With him and just hope that Jamal comes back and
he's healthy. But man, I don't I don't feel good
about what I've seen the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now I'm in that same boat, and I'll take a
different lens in that we just saw this with the Chiefs, right.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh, we got the guy. We got the guy.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And I'm saying all of us sitting here saying I
trust the cole jocicch over anybody for twenty games. Yeah,
that's a that's a head you make, that's a dollar
you know, milkshake, bet, whatever you make with your friends.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's not how you win. You have to win as
a team.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And to your point earlier about Russell Westbrook now becoming
a starter, well there's two things. There's becoming the starter
where you haven't been spoken to or coached all season,
and there's becoming the starter when you've been in the
mix all year, when coach has been talking to you.
Coach has said, hey, you know, even though you got
seven minutes last night, Ryan, I really want to talk
about this possession. Doesn't sound like that's happening with coach Malone.
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And one of the things that people overlook with Phil
Jackson and his monumental run and across two different franchises,
he coached every player on that team, and from the
outside looking in, it looks like Malone says, we got
the best player. We know Jamal is going to be
able to put up thirty in the playoffs. We know
Michael Porter Junior might get US fifteen, but it's going
to be key fifteen points. But those are three players.
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You know, what are you getting out of Aaron Gordon?
He is getting older and I saw the small moment.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
There's always a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Small moment when you're a player and you're aging Russell
Westbrook last night, I think it was in the second
quarters driving to the left and falls down.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
He fell down like nobody tripped him.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Like that was one of those moments where you're like, oh,
I got this, I don't got that speed. I've been
there and I did that walk in the studio. I mean,
you feel this happens, and then what happens is it
changes your confidence every time you're going, you know it changed.
So now you've got a coaching issue, a confidence issue,
and an age issue with one of the players that
you're depending on.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'm sorry, by the way, Dave, I was so busy
filming you falling down.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I didn't offer to help pick you up.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That was me.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's just kind of the age we live in, right.
People are so busy taking photos of the people over
day with the camera.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It was a shot. It'll be up in the website.
Can you match?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It would be so crushed. I get like, I get
trusted enough for the stuff I do. But that that
right there, like Dave's lay there, Ryan filming him like
that looks like it hurt. Anyways, Listen, I think that's
all that's all appropriate. I don't think to your point, Dave,
if there's any reason to jump off bandwagons or not
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believe that the team can sort of turn things around,
because a couple of years ago they showed us the
exact same thing. They didn't look quite like they should
right before the playoffs, and then maybe there was a
bit of a rope it upe there and all of
a sudden they went on a historic run sixteen to
four records. So, given the benefit of the doubt, the
problem here the one the one thing I see is
a bit of an impediment to this is you don't
know where you're going to finish now in the standings.
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At that point you knew you were the one, like
you had all of that locked up. It was done here.
You're anywhere from three until eight, and two of those
spots are playing games, which is of course where they
absolutely do not want to be. And the remaining schedule
here is not one that they're gonna be able to
walk in and just show up for Sacramentos. At the
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nine they're playing, they're gonna want that road that's on
the road. You're back home against Memphis. That's a massive
game for Memphis, and for the Nuggets, now the Houston game,
the final game on Sunday afternoon, kuston. Houston might have
nothing to play for at that point, so there's a
possibility that you could be gifted that or Houston might
show up and say, actually, we can stick you in
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the play and we're gonna go ahead and do that. Yeah,
and then they play them on the other side of that.
So there's this all sorts of things at play here.
But it's a wild thing to look at the standings.
As we were just sort of talking about, you have
was it one, two, three, four, five teams all with
thirty two losses?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah? Three through seven, three through seven, Oh no, no, four
to through four through eight, four through eight. Yeah, Lakers
have thirty losses. At three. There's two problems. One.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean last night in general, they were just outplayed.
I mean there's Nicole Yolkic got lost in the passing
lanes on defense that usually doesn't happen. They're they're getting
beat two rebounds, I mean, just little effort things. You
also didn't play at all, like you were protecting the house.
I mean, that's why that under armour commercial was so
popular back in that every half. Hey, this is home field,
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home court, home eyes. We protect this. We we have
to have another level here and those things are just missing.
And at the end of the day, though, it doesn't
matter what seat you are, doesn't matter if you're a
championship team, you are going.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
To play whoever, wherever, whenever. It just doesn't feel to
me like the jujuw is right, Yeah, just the you know,
I'm a watching the game.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm a body language guy, demeanor, facial expressions. I don't know, man,
And I'm not jumping on I'm telling you right now,
I'm riding with these dudes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wherever for however long they're in it.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Because you want to be a Thunder fan tomorrow certainly, No,
not like ever others.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, I love the way they built that roster.
What do you say they had how many? How many
top five choices? Are not you?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You pick a guy that's driving an Uber right now,
nothing against an Uber driver, by the way, Like I'm
twenty five. Then let's say you're going south right now
as you approach Bellevue, hank the horn real quick. Pick
that guy right there that just punked the horn. He
could put a pretty damn good roster together with that
many of draft picks, No freaking yes, yes, they.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Got out from Paul George at the exact right time.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
How many how many top ten draft choices?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right? Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
A lot?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And they're still going into twenty thirty and beyond. You
know what I do.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
What I'd say for a lot of people in colding
Sam Pressy, who's the GM there, and especially for you,
they better hit this year, bro okay, but you better
win an NBA championship this year with a team that's
gonna win when it's all said and done. Probably what
sixty six, Yeah, they're gonna be like sixty six and
sixteen sixty four right now. Don't don't wind up getting
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beat at any point in the postseason, especially with young roster.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I just the way I like the way they put
that singletary expected you did do that, you can't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I just like the way they put that thing together.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That's all I just didn't admire from pure basketball at.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The way the Dodgers put the roster together.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
To Tom how that player didn't develop.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And then if you had the first pick in the
draft this year, okay, would you not take Cooper Flag,
tough choice, uber driver, do it?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
There you go. That's my point. That's my point with him.
I cannot you don't do it. I want winners. I'm
that poplectic. I cannot believe that that's your comp for
this argument.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I mean, I mean, they've had so many top choices,
virtually impossible.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You're gonna pick Cooper Flag. The Nuggets traded the pick
to Utah for Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You gotta taste on that. That was a bad trade.
You gotta hit Cooper Flag first pick.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Say no, yes? Are you say no? We're not doing
the show anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm not sold on that guy. Man, what I am
not sold on it?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Did you see the game? Get the hell out? Did
you see him miss the shot?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He's not a guy.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
He's the only guy who had a basket the last
thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Cast in key situations. I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
All I'm saying is.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Stick the kickstep and playing tax man.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They can say that's what they said to me when
I said the Broncos win eleven games last year, ten
outside of a field go they went eleven. I just
don't see it. I don't see it in Cooper Flag.
I think he'll be a great player.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think he's gonna be just fine.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
The Mursian multip no point, no, no, you need to
stick with your hand in the dirt identifying five texts
or nine texts. You gotta kick step a little bit wider.
Just stay right in your lane because basketball ain't your
favor I.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Really care money, very excited to be here with you,
Ryan Harry and Dave Logan, Ryanos.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
When we come back, Ian A Rappaport.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Is gonna d us.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
We'll get the latest on the NFL draft, what he
thought about so you pro day all that.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Coming up next.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Speaker 6 (23:22):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah? Doing good?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Ian appreciate appreciate the time as we UH have have
wrapped up the owners meetings. Anything come out of those
meetings in your mind that maybe was a bit of
a surprise and a qualifier or a caveat follow up
question the Toush push put on hold until May.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What what do you expect to happen with that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'll start with the surprise. You know, I was a little.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Surprised at the proposal to recede or to not receive,
but to allow a division winner to not host a
home game. I'm surprised that is still live because I
think a.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Lot of times, you know, teams make proposals.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
You'd like people to consider it, but you know, like
it's not really something that's gonna get a ton of looks,
and that kind of did. And I thought that was
really interesting because it was like, you know, like you
want the NFL is a division based league, right, if
you win your division, you get all the things, right,
you get.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Sometimes you know, you get a home game, or you
get multiple home games.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
But this sort of introduced the possibility that if you
win your division, but maybe you have a losing record,
you might not get a home game.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And I was surprised at.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
How many people were like, you know what, that makes
a little bit of sense, let's keep this alive. I
kind of think it makes sense too. I just was,
I just, you know, people hold their home games so close,
but then again, if you don't have a winning record,
you really deserve it, so I thought that was an
interesting thing. Not surprised that Sush push is going to
get another look in May.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
My guess is that.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It gets rewritten a little bit. And you know, me
just personally.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Like I've never understood it, Like it's not really football.
It's pushing and pulling a player rather than letting him
score whatever on his own skill basically, So I could
see a situation where they say, you know, we're not
going to target the Eagles, They're not gonna out of
the play, We're gonna out all pushing in general, and
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trust that the officials can officiate it. And I wouldn't
be surprised if that happens to me.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, it'd be tough for an official to make that call.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And Ian I was on.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The field for the Bush push before it became the
test push.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
To make the official you think it'd be tough for
the officials.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, I don't think. I think that it would have
to be a demonstrative shove. And I can already hear
in the meeting rooms. You know, hands got to be
on both hips or both you know, in the square.
I mean, how are you going to really see that?
And then of course the offensive players are going to
start putting their shoulder and not using their hands into
the back of their quarterback, making a dangerous play even
more dangerous. You know. But I want to go back
to what you're talking about with the you could win
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the division but not host a playoff game. I mean,
isn't this Bill O'Brien's fault in the Falcons fault. Isn't
that why this has come up because teams have Yeah,
I mean, isn't it a process of what has happened
in the past in the NFL?
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Well, you know, so, let's talk about the Seahawks Saints
game where he had the beast quick right, Yeah, I
mean that was a undermanned Seattle team that finished with
a losing record, hosted a playoff game, and then won.
And what obviously is the decision, since it's still alive,
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is that that was not warranted, Like they did not
deserve that home game and they shouldn't have won, but
they got the advantage because they had the home game,
so therefore they won. Like that's clearly the NFL looking
back at being like this wasn't right. I don't you know,
I don't know how to deal. I mean, that was
one of the great moments of an NFL history. But
that was clearly the thought. It's like if a team
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without a winning record host a game and wins, and
it's not right, and that was I mean, that's that's
sort of a clear rebuke I think from the NFL owners.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Ian Rothbort joining us here, I want to talk about
Steve's Pro day coming off of Friday and sort of
the reaction. I thought it was interesting and I heard
some of your comments this morning on pan Acafe. You
were talking a little bit about how well, hey, Travis
Hunter decided not to do any kind of dB drills,
how did the teams react to that, as well as
Shador Sanders and the padding of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Seems to be a lot of conversation on that. What
was your reaction to all that.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Well, first on the Shador, you know, I get why
everyone's on and for patting the ball because anything they do,
anything he does, somebody would find something wrong with. That's
just the reality, and he knows it, and so he
can sort of like fight back against critics.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But that's his reality.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Then his realities into his five years old. Since he
has the same last name as one of the greatest players,
one of the most well known players of all time. Right,
So I mean, I'm I'm fine with it because that's
just the way it works. If your name is Shadoor
Sanders and he has turned aroun on two programs have
not been traditional winners. He is a great player. He
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may not do things like other people. And now, I mean,
I've seen plenty of quarterbacks about the ball. But okay,
you want to criticize it, Okay, cool, Like people aren't perfect.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's really fine. It's more just.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Like this is what it's going to be like. And
he's ready for it. I don't know if we're all
ready for it, but I think he's ready for it.
And you know, as far as as Travis Hunter, I
was interested that he ran routes. I was interested that
he didn't do DBI drills, you know. And my guess
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would have been he'd want to be a lockdown corner
rather than a receiver. But maybe not. And I think
if you're a team that drafts him, like, you know,
do you ask him and see what do you want
to play? Do you say we're drafting you? Is this
like what a team writes down is actually going to
be kind of a big deal When it dressed him.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, and receivers get paid more than corners, so I
like him trying to trying to head the market a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
They sure do.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And you know, I my last question for you, Ashton Genty.
I mean I watched the film. I get it, he
got he has amazing rushing ability. But when you hear
gms and coaches talk about him, the one thing that
always comes up in some way somehow, has you got
to be able to pick up the blitz things like that?
What were what were the what are the things you're
hearing about Ashton Genty? And how the NFL is looking
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at him even though no one argues he was a
prolific college running back.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Prolific player.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
You're right, well, first of all, that's why to stay
on the field as a pro is to pick up
the blazer. If you can't, you will be just a
running back and then you will be everyone will know
you're running when you're in the game like that is
that is obviously a focus. And if it's you know,
if he doesn't do it well enough for NFL people,
then you hope he could learn.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
But you know, I think that you know him being
if he is.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
A three down back, he has more value. He's a
first and second out back. He has not as much value. Right,
what no one will debate is just how freaking good
he is. So so I think he'll go. I think
he'll go early. I could see him in the top fifteen.
But you know where you project. His ability to stay
on the field will definitely go a long way in
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determining what his value is.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Ian always appreciated man. We'll check him in the next week.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Okay, look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Taking Thank you, Ian Rapaport, our NFL Network insider.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You know, are you down on Jack Ashton Jenny?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I think he's going to be a very good player.
You're talking to a man who won a Super Bowl
with two guys at running back who are not who
are not first round picks. And when I think of
first round picks at running back, I think about King Henry, right,
I think about who's the young man I'm forgetting his
name right now who went to Tampa won the Super
Bowl there. So I mean, you just have to have
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a tremendous amount of ability. And at the end of
the day, Ashton, Jen, you want him to block Patrick
Queen on what like? That's a mismatch. And let me
tell you what defensive coordinators are going to do. They're
going to bring that mismatch to the point where as
an offensive coach, your best plan is going to have
him be to bluff the blitzer and get to the flat.
Well that's getting shut down now by his own coverage,
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and you got problems.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You got some real problems. Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I was.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I was surprised when I saw some of the video
with him just in shorts. I was surprised how thick
he is. Yeah, you know you knew he had. I mean,
you just have to look at the film and know
he's got great skill, got unbelievable balance, breaks a lot
of tackles. It'll be tougher in the NFL most obviously,
But when I saw him, I'm like, oh wow, okay,
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he's he's going to be built for this job.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So I do.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I do agree that, you know, blitz pickup is going
to be crucial for him, because defensive coaches are smart
enough that with some of their looks they can force
that back to stay in right. So but I don't
have any doubt again, with his strength and eyes. I
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mean to me, that may just very well be technique
on how to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Even if he has the right technique, though he's so
short to where I think some of the linebackers in
this league are gonna be able to get their hands
up and deflect the ball. And that's none. That's a
situation where hey, you picked up the blitz, you did
the right technique, but they're still getting there and now
you got to Now you've got a real problem, all.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Right, thinking about this. Ye, here's the scenario for both
of you. Right, We're in the back of a police
cruiser and you turn to me, either one of you,
and you say a sentence that has four words in it.
(32:45):
What's the sentence. I'm a little bit ahead because I
thought about this. Get me out of here, Get me
out of here. Okay, I'm to you Ryan, in particular,
I would look at you and say, did you do it?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Did you do it? It was him, officer, It was him. Okay,
that's good. That bad?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It was so man?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh man, you're like you.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Got a cop a pleet like right away, Hey, hey.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Look, the statistics with me in this car with you
guys are not very good.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Okay, you guys, You guys get.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Deals eventually, it's coming on. I've seen all the movie mo.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
If you don't say it, the prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Is gonna get anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
While I was in there, I probably don't even know
you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
If I hyphen eight one armed, I say it's the
one armed man and feel really clever about myself.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Right, yeah, exactly. A little future reference there that's interesting,
is this scenario.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That happened over the weekend or yeah, you know, no comment,
you'll comment, know what your what your sentence would be?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You get four wards? Four words? All right, well you
know what, we've got a couple more hours. Yeah, five, six, six,
nine zero. What will your four words forwards? So you
are you the your person that got arrested.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Both in the back of the police so it's already
out you see how that happened with you guys. We
don't even know what happened. I'm out there.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's why it was It.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Was him officer, Yeah, okay, politely, politely it was him, presient.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's hysterical. I uh yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I guess putting myself in a situation like that one
in the back.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Of a police have not I don't think you're not
fit in the back of one of those times I do.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I've gone along with you know, does that work? Could
you say I don't fit back their officer.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Well, it's been a few years, but I have, I have,
I don't be a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, I don't think then they make it comfortable back
there for a reason.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
No, okay, yeah I don't. The officer is in there. Yeah,
you try it, you try it. You know, it doesn't
have to ask. That's what I was told all my life,
very very quickly with the end. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I thought for you that dog thought about dogs sits here.
The dog being a canine cruiser could be the dog
sits here. The dog sits here.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah. Yeah, you see the shedding and everything.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Right, that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
A couple of things here, I do want to see
you stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But we had a couple of texts on the Kaekmma
spirital text line, this one asking our rookie running backs
normally good at Blitz pickup coming out of college.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No, God, no, no, I'll be and I'll be honest.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's a that's a yeoman's job. That is lunch pale work. Now,
if you can do it, you might get a couple
extra carries. If you're not necessarily good running back. If
you're a great running back and can't pick up the blitz,
there are gonna be limitations on your opportunities.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
This one, I do think Sean loves him some chanty,
but Ryan Harris's credit on that statement. I think that
the guy they like is Trevon Henderson, maybe Quinn Seann Judges.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I love both of those players. And look, Chuckkins is
just as good to me as Henderson. But I thought
you'd have like a little bit of a sour feeling.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, Dan will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
When I watch football, really any sport, and a team's
doing it the right way, Oh, I'm I'm thrilled for
the players on that field. And that's what Ohio State did.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
They played the game correctly, They ran.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
The right plays, made the right calls, The players knew
what was going on. They used three different staff counts
even though they were winning the whole game, right. I
mean that kind of competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I appreciate that some four words people have what did
you do? What did you do? Okay? I like that.
This one is suggestion for me says please call Please
call my mom. Yourself. I mean, it's just just got
money and maybe I need some.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
If you're not asking, if it's too late.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Damn kids, Damn, that was fun. Again. You don't know
what you did or what the other person did. Damn,
that was fun. Mike, be inappropriate. Let's do it again.
Don't call my wife. It's another one that sounds like
experience right there. Who are these guys try that? You
can't try that. I don't even know why I'm here,
(37:04):
all right, So yeah, keep those rolling. Those are fun.
On the ko Comma Spirit Health text line, we'll come back.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I do want to talk about the CU thing with
Travis Hunter not opting to do anything any dB drills.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm fascinated to get your answer on that. We'll get
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