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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Excited to be back with you after a couple of
days off. Ryan Edwards. Nick Ferguson is shooting it with
me today, Nick, my friend, how are you I'm doing stupidous?
Are you really? That sounds a little.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's condescending a little bit?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Why? Why so?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Because the way you just looked at me and said,
nobody says those kinds of things, and and they don't
say it in that way unless there's some sarcasm or
snark behind it.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So I'm not sure black Eye sot by saying that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Grant, what do I say to that? You just you can't.
That's good, buddy. Yes, we're off rolling, very excited to
be here with you. We got so much to get to.
What a fun sports weekend. Of course, unless you're the
Colorado Rockies. Everybody else, everybody else, I had a lot
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of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Why did you have to address it in that way?
Everyone brought the Colorado Rockies?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, the results are what the results?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know, you know, I know the Rockies know the
Rockies fans.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, I'm not piling on, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Have to make it you know, a big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm not trying to I I what in fact, what
I was going to do is transition into all the
other fun things, the nuggets, for example, Rory for example,
gave land to Scott. There are so much great stuff
from the weekend, but I did have to acknowledge that
it wasn't great for everybody. That's it, and it's It's
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not a pilot on this. This is my acknowledgment of
a fact of going twenty seven innings without scoring a run.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And listen, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I am an abashed Rockies fan. There's nothing they can
do that will break my will.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
But you wanted to point that out and make sure
that everyone understood that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But simultaneously, you know, you live in them the now,
and you live in the understand you know, yes, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So I'll say this in order to build someone else up.
You don't have to tell someone else down. I'm just saying.
I'm just putting out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
There unless their name is Shay Gilders Alexander and they
need to be torn down because NICOLEA. Jokich is your
true MVP. No he's not, yes he yes, No he no,
he's not. Now, I know you must be high. That's
why you started out with a stupendous thing. There's no
way that you can watch what Nicola Yoki did, which
has never been done in the history of the NBA,
and compare that to a team effort of getting the
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one seed in the West. There's no way you could
come away from this season and be a logical NBA fan,
especially living in this beautiful city, and say that Shay
Gilders Alexander is your MVP.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, that's why I'm saying it, though, because I
live here in Denver and I just.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Don't have mountain high eyes. I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I just try to see the whole spectrum.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Blink twice. If stephen A has got some of your
family Mever's hostage or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Something's in my eye right now, something's in my eye
of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Did Steve tell you to say this?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No he did not. Okay, I did not speak to
stephen A this morning.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Sounds like something Steve and A would be like, well,
how dare you question what is actually what everybody believes. Well,
you're right, it is Cha's turn.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm not gonna say it's his turn because because that
would means as though, well, you're only doing it by default.
I'm gonna look at it as though Shay has done
a hell of a job. When you look at the
scoring percentage, right you have and I'm not looking at
the numbers right in front of me, but I think
it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Shay, Yannice, and then Yo Kisch.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
When you look at number of assists, Yokich dominates that
center as a center. That's great. And then you look
at rebounds. Of course he's gonna rebound.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He doesn't always have to, because we have seen guards
like Russell Westbrook, for example, average a triple level.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Right, But that that's kind of an anomaly because that's
not something that's customary in association.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But when you start to lay out certain factors, one
guy still has his head coach, another guy doesn't.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
What does that I have to do any anything?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Your head coach was fired three games with three games remaining.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In this you're gonna put me in a bad mood.
I was in a great mood walking into the studio today.
I was I got very excited about all the great
sports we had this weekend. And you want to harp
on the Rockies and you want to harp on this
bad take about you.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Dugged on the Rockies. So you you turned the tables
and opening up the show.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I acknowledged with an intention to not spend time on it.
But then you were like, no, no, no, we got to
talk about the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's not what I said.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's exactly what you see.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You could have just.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Led off with Man, it was a great weekend in sports.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Let's hit the number one topic.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Started talking about the Masters, and then I can't wait,
segue until the Nuggets. But that's not what you did.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm just feeding off the energy that you were providing.
I was, I was feeling very stupendous. Now now I'm
just feeling stupendous.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, that's what I'm feeling, stupendous. And you say, well,
what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's what everybody in their cars say right now exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But you stole the thunder right, I mean, it was
such shine the rainbows in here.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's interesting you bring up the thunder sees where your
brain's at right now.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So, speaking on the.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Masters, yes, we all spent a lot of time because
I I thought the Masters, and specifically the drama that
happened yesterday was everything you could absolutely possibly love about sports.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You don't have to be a golf fan, No, you don't.
You don't even have to be a golf fan to
appreciate the drama of what happened. We don't have to
go blow by blow, even though I watched all of it.
You were talking, we were talking before the show came on,
and you were talking about pressure and in the moment
and how it seemed like we as a sports viewing audience,
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we're going through it with Rory. Yes, the moments when
he's up and it looks like he's cruising, he's laughing,
he's having a good time. And then he puts it
in the drink on a layup at thirteen and you're like,
oh no, here we go again, because it's him, Here
we go. And then he bounces back, he hits the
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shot on was a fifteen and then I'm seventeen. Oh
my god. But it's so funny. You brought that up
before the show started because I was hanging out with
my girls and we were walking down to gets some
ice cream and I was like, what, girls, I can't
not watch this, So I have it on my phone,
and I'm watching it on my phone as we're walking
to go get ice cream. You know, his dad for
the weekend and the putt on eighteen that he missed.
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I'm like, oh my god, he missed it. I'm gonna
throw up. And my girls are like, whoa, well, who missed?
What where are you going? I'm like, I just said that,
Like I said it out loud without even acknowledging anybody
else in the world around me, because I was so
into it. But he hit it into the sand with
a gap, which he gets it up on the green.
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He's just gotta make I mean, I'm not saying it's
any putt toll foot or so for par and it's his.
It's over exercising all the demons. And he missed it.
And in that moment, I blurted out, oh my god,
he missed it. I think I'm gonna throw up so much.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
For daddy's day out because your girls were enjoying ice
cream meanwhile you were on your phone. I mean, I
don't think that you were doing your daddy duties making
sure that you were just there. Should did what I did.
I just drove somewhere else. It sat in the car
and watched it on my phone. See, so that way
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I wasn't bothering anyone.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, life's out of town. So like, oh see, I
can't ditch the kids.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I didn't know that. See you didn't leave with that.
You didn't leave with that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Is my time with my wife was on a trip,
business trip, okay, so I was responsible, and they know
the drill. They kind of understand it, like there's I
am hanging with them, we were watching.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Movies, we were here, but I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But understand. There are some moments when I gotta have to,
you know, balance it out. That's it. And so this
was this was one of those moments. Is I was
watching The Masters and we had finished dinner and I
told the girls I'd walked them down to get some
ice cream from our house, which really close, really nice,
And I said, but I got I got to keep
an eye on this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I had to.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's in a moment and it's not one of the
and it doesn't feel the same for me. I don't
know about you, but it doesn't feel the same to
go back and watch it after, Like I know there's
gonna be highlights a sports center and all that stuff,
and I could go to Twitter and I can relive them.
It's not the same as being in that moment when
it's happening with the rest of the world. There's something
very unique about that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's funny that you say that, because the people that
I talked to after they were saying how it was
very difficult for them to watch. They even got up
and left the room. Some say that they were sweating
all over their body, and I was like, well, why
are you sweating. You don't have to sing that putt.
You're not in the playoffs. He is not you. But
I get it. It's the pressure of.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Knowing as though you spent so much time.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And we talked about Roy being somewhat of can we say,
like a golf prodigy playing at every young age and
everyone aspires to when the US Open, But there's nothing
like winning the Masters. It's something different about winning the Master.
It's like, well, did you win the Super Bowl? Did
you go to the Pro Bowl? Right, there's a difference
between the two. And to watch it. I said to
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myself when I was like, no, this can't be happening again.
And I wonder what he's thinking to himself if we
are sitting watching it thinking is he about to do
it again?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Because the narrative, the whole dialogue today easily could have
been that direction. Yes, it easily could have been because
he did the double and did fallen over the bogie,
and you thought it was all slipping through through his hands, right,
you know, to.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Remind me of remember when John Elway being the top quarterback,
he was getting to Super Bowls, but he needed Super
Bowl thirty two victory to really cement his legacy because
if not, he was going to be mentioned like a
Dan Fouts, right or Jim Kelly, a guy that almost
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accomplished something spectacular, and he had to be dealing with
that in the back of his mind. Okay, well, the
ghost of Bryson D. Chambeau is coming back to get me.
I'm making a mistake again and mentally mentally collapsing. So
I would love to ask him in those moments, if
I could, how did you calm your mind? Because as
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an athlete myself, your mind is racing all over the
place and you're saying, here we go again. How do
I come back from this? How do I face golfers again?
Knowing as though another epic collapse? But he pulled it
off of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was incredible. And here's the final putt courtesy of
Jim Nance's CBS.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Not ploy.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's his masterpiece. By the way, Jim Nance just another
master class in broadcasting. I couldn't help it afterwards because
he had like a long stretch almost like five minutes,
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where he just like barely talked, if at all, because
there was so much drama.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Drama build up.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You didn't need it, you didn't need somebody jumping in.
And he is. He's so good. His timing is phenomenal.
And I even said it afterward. I tweeted out. I
was like, I can't even imagine, because I know he's
going to retire at some point from broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Who's filling those shoes?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well, I don't even know, but I can't, Like, can
you picture the Masters? Hello, friends? Can you picture the
Masters without Jim Nance's voice? I can't.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I just can't.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And it's not like he's done it forever, but it's
like been so long now that the two equate to
each other. Like when I think about the Masters, I
think about him a tradition unlike any other. And hello, friend,
I mean just and like I said, he absolutely nailed it.
He nailed the end of that thing. He brought it
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to Ah and then the interview afterwards. Now, I will say,
and it cracks me up a little bit. When they're
in the cabin, it does feel like they're trying to
get him to cry, Like it seems like the design
of this thing is to get Rory to cry more.
They kept asking about his parents, and they kept like,
they kept asking questions in a way that I'm like, look,
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I'm crying oval a little bit, but I can only
imagine what he is sitting there like okay, yeah, okay,
you're right. You bring my parents and all the sacrifices
they made, Like he said that grant, But didn't you
think that Jim nance was gonna cry too? Like it
felt like he was on the verge of tears. He
felt like, yeah, his words were kind of getting broken
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yes, I was crying like a baby in my office
and my wife's like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You're watching golf? Yeah, it's not like the X slice.
It's like funny, I care more about the Rocky's not
scoring a run of these games that do anything about golf.
That's what I'm saying that this isn't a golf conversation.
This is like a life This is a sports conversation
that transcends, in my opinion, transcends. Again, We're not gonna
spend the whole show on it. I just thought it was.
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It was tremendous. And again we got a lot of
Nuggets stuff to get to in rapport joys us here
at three thirty, we've got all sorts of football draft
stuff to get to it. Just for me, that was
one of the moments of the weekend and one of
my favorite golf term it's ever watched.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It is because here's what I would equate it to
for Rockies fans, even though you may not look at it,
because you may not be a huge Rory fan or
a golf fan. Think about what Rocktober was for the
city of Colorado. Think about whether Rockies find themselves now.
But also think about what happens if the Rockies, after
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all of.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
This, they get to a point where some.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
It's the final out and all you need is a strikeout,
you get that strikeout, and you win the championship. How
overcome with emotion would you actually be as a fan.
Just think about Cleveland, those fans who had never really
seen any team from Cleveland win anything, and then when
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Lebron went back, they'd be the Golden State Warriors with
Kyrie and they get their first championship. There were like
three generations of individuals just weeping. So I saw the
humanistic side of it, and that was something that I
tweeted out, like, look at the raw emotion that he
is exhibiting right now. It reminded me of when Todd
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when Tiger Woods won his first one, and then when
Tiger won his second one.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Right, It's that raw emotion that I love.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And the the reason why I love all sports is
because you get a chance to climb out of the seller,
to finally have your plays on the man to after
so much hard work you put in, and those teams
and that emotion that is being expressed between teammates or
coaches or players or rory in this particular situation. I
don't care if you don't like golf, but you can
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see a little of yourself in that situation. That's the
way I look at it.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Interesting reaction on the text line. By the way, listen,
people are salty on a Monday. I'm not exactly sure.
Whatever reason you have for reaching out and taking shots
or whatever. I'm not in the mood too good of
a mood to deal with a nonsense. So if you're
that unhappy, you can you can find something else to do.
It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, go kick rocks.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
This one when Nick called Ryan out for advocating his
dad duties by being on his phone for the first time.
Everyone listening to sports talk radio. My wife says about Nick,
I'm okay, if you just listen to that guy, that's funny.
I was listen. I was dad for four straight days,
and I give them so much attention. So I mean,
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I'm gonna take this as a lighter toned thing than
a you're failing as a father text. But I think
part of it is in context of all the other nonsense.
I'm here on the text line with people whining about
us starting out the show just having a little bit
of fun. Again, the whining can stop. You guys can
just just find something better to do it. It's not
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worth your time sending texts into this station to whine
about things that you're getting for free. Anyways, I don't
think I was advocating anything. I was very in tune
with my kids. We had just come off watching a movie.
I'm they understand that I sort of have to write
dual roles here, but this was a moment I just
told them and it was funny, and it was kind
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of a running joke with the kids because I kept
updating them. They both play golf, by the way, they're
both I take them out to the range, we go,
we play golf, so they like it. They're not watching
golf as much as I watch golf, but they like golf.
So I was updating throughout the whole thing. So this
was a little bit of running joke with us that
I kept updating him on Rory, like, Rory just did
a birdie. Your oh my god, this kid's gonna happen.
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Oh my god, he's gonna double, and that, you know,
they would laugh at.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, that's the drama that we don't ordinarily see
in golf that we see in other sports, and it's
one of the reasons more people don't or choose not
to watch golf because it's almost like watching Pink dry.
But this was something exceptional because we all knew going
in there was a grand slam on the line, right
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and that's right, and will what Rory had in the
end enough to overcome his demons. So once again I
go back to the idea, even if you don't watch golf,
you are a human being, and as human beings we
go through ebbs and Flow's life, right, and you have
dreams that you aspire to get to a certain point.
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Some of us live it like I did. Some of
us don't. But just because of that pat that that
that roller coaster ride, to know that this guy's been
on this roller coaster ride for almost eleven years, he's
actually seen where he could get to but never could
really get to because he didn't play well and down
in the clutch and.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He finally does it. I don't care who you are.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
If you can't say, well, that was freaking awesome, then
there's a lot that says about you, Like alex Obeskin
who broke record. Do you know how longly that record stood?
No one's probably gonna do it again, but he did that.
I'm not an avid hockey fan, but I can appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
So if you're out there you're hating whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And my comment about you know, Ryan, that was me
just poking at Ryan. I didn't know Ryan's wife was
on vacation. But sometimes that happened. That was a moment
because you will be able to and your girls will
be able to look back and say, well, hey man,
where were you when Rory did this?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I was with my daddy ice cream. Sure, right, it's
a moment I was.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I was giving them the play by play whether they liked.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It or not.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Play and again culminating with oh my god, he missed it.
I'm gonna throw up. And they were like, oh god, what.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
They're thinking, like, Dad, what just happened? We're trying to
enjoy our ice cream.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But you know, it's really funny. Like on a side note,
and again we have rein rapport John us here in
this matter of moments. What's really funny is there's moments
when you're watching sports, right and maybe somebody's out of
the room, they're not quite as tuned into it as
you are, and you make like sports sound like oh
like like oh you know, it was wondering what's happening,
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what's going on? Like so when he just lips out
of putt, you're like, ah, you know, and they're like,
oh you okay, No, I'm fine. I'm fine. You just
missed the putt. That's it. I'm fine. Or watching the
Nuggets right and Russell Westbrook throws it into the third row,
like oh, come on, and then there's like what what?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
No, west he just you know, checked it into the
third row. We're fine.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
My wife is the same way because she's starting to
know what these reactions are to know that he's just
watching sports. Nothing is happening, No one's dying, there was
no accident. He's just reacting to what he's seeing. So yes,
dontally understand it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We're off and rolling. Thank you for the ones riding
with us, for the ones that are are salty and
are still sticking around. I hope you enjoy the rest
of the show. We'll do the best we can to
entertain you and talk about the things you specifically want
to hear from, because obviously there are specific things that
people just feel like they can call out to the universe. Hey,
talk about this thing, not this thing. It's a weird
world we lived in. Ian Rapmore. Hopefully like football, he
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Thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
What's going on? Man? How are you?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We're doing great? By the way, I saw you on
Pat McAfee earlier that it's a pretty cool setup you
got going.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Well, it was very temporary. I'm actually you'd probably hear.
I'm actually in the airport right now. I'm in Mississippi.
I was in Mississippi visiting my wife's family. Kids are
on vacation, so duty called for a little bit. But
it's a absolutely beautiful setting where I was, it sure.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Looked like it.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, I'm glad you got a chance to, especially with
what's coming up in the draft, very busy time. Glad
you got a chance to maybe get away for a bit.
I did want to start out with Derek Carr and
the News on that. Like, in your opinion, how long
do you think the Saints knew about this and how
much did it impact this entire pre draft process for them?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know, I think they were probably looking for a
quarterback anyway. I think they were probably going through the
you know, pre draft process a quarterback regardles. I mean,
they've done on the homework, and they've been doing the
homework even you know, before this became kind of a thing.
But I do think it creates urgency to the same
and I think, you know, if they were uncertain about
whether or not Derek Carr would be back in twenty
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twenty six, now they are certain, they know it's not
going to happen, and in fact, there's a real possibility
he doesn't play for them at all this year. So
it just kind of ramps up the pursuit of who
is the next guy. And you know, how highly do
they think of any of these quarterbacks and do they
think highly enough to take one right? I mean, that's
sort of the big question. Like I don't know at
nine if they're going to have a chance to take
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Shador Sanders, but they might or Tyler Shook or you know,
Jackson Dart. I mean that's it's just how much do
they like one of these guys and how you know,
long of a ledge that they want to go out on.
But it certainly does ramp up the necessity of it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, when you listen to GM from the Seattle Seahawks,
John Snyder talk about the quarterback position in quarterback draft class,
he looks at this Ian is a little different from
everyone else. He went on to say that he'll be
careful when you hear people say this isn't a great
draft class. When you hear him a guy who's got
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Gino Russell. Now Sam Donald there with the Seattle Seahawks.
Is there some truth to what he's saying about these
young quarterbacks coming into the league.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Now, Well, the short answer is yes, But then the
long answer is I think he liked if you know,
if he's not looking for he's got Sam Donald. They've
got a three year deal. They can get out after one,
but it's a three year deal. So my guests is
they're not looking for a quarterback early, so they would
like quarterbacks to go before them so they get better
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position players. Right, So it's in his best interest to
say that. But I think his point is a good one,
which is that we have no idea. Like we have
no idea, we have seen years. I think the Broncos
are beneficiaries of it. You know, we've seen people pre draft.
You say, oh, well, obviously bo Nix is just X
or you know, obviously you know, Michael Pennix is you know,
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maybe it's the second rounder. We'll see it's like the
earlier than we think. And it's really impossible to know
who's going to be good in the pros and who's not.
Like last year's class was much better than anyone realized
at the time, and so for sure the thing could
be said about this year's class. I think that's his point.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Do you think we'll have any kind of indication from
Aaron Rodgers before the draft and I asking on behalf
of all Steelers fans picking at twenty one?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean, I hope.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I've enjoyed the conversation surrounding Aaron Rodgers for the last
couple of months. I think it's certainly helped us have
things to talk about on TV. It's been great. You know.
You'd like to think that he has enough sort of
respect or whatever you'd even to say for an organization
that maybe lets him know before. But he doesn't have to,
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you know, I mean, I don't think the offer is
going to be rescinded If he doesn't. He just is
like to know, and you know, if you're the Steelers
and you like a quarterback at number twenty one, you
like enough, would you not take grief you had Aaron
Rodgers Like, I don't know about that. You might take
him anyway, you know, because he's forty something years old,
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like you need one regardless. So I don't know that
it really changes things for the Steelers that much, but
would you know? You want to know what team you're
fielding before the draft, and I think just common courtesy
sort of dictates that.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Well, there's a running back that I've been really high on,
sayce like two years ago, and that's Cam Scatibul, and
not so many people are talking about him because the
conversation is often dominated by what quarterback is going to
go where? But also this is a really talented running
back class. Do you look at Cam Scattabul as being
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one of those top runners? The reason I asked because
the Denver Bronco is a team that's not far from
our studio. They are a decinal need of a running back.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Well, I think Cam Scatibul is probably not a top
running back in this draft, just based on the overall evaluation.
I guess is he's a third rounder, maybe a fourth rounder.
That doesn't mean that he can't be successful. I mean, historically,
we've got plenty of running backs who were drafted the second, third,
and fourth round to go on to be absolute superstars.
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It doesn't matter, you know. And that's one really hard
thing about running backs is like you can take one
in the first round and it doesn't amount to much.
You can take one in the sixth round and he
becomes a thousand yard rusher. It's just a matter of
finding the right guy for your system. So I don't
think Cam Scattabo is a top top running back, but
I do think he can be really really successful if
he finds the right system. And I would imagine, based
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on one I know about him as a prospect and
a player and a person, that wherever he goes probably
going to be very happy to have him.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
All righty, In last one, I have four. You always
appreciate the time my friend got the draft coming up
next week. I get the sense that we're starting to
get we're getting close to knowing what the top couple
of picks are going to be, maybe even to the
top three picks. But then it really is a blender.
It feels like, and I think oftentimes we use the
mock drafts and everybody watches all that stuff over the
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course of these months thinking this is this is what
it's going to look like. But what I gain from
a podcast and reading other people out there is there's
a sense that a lot of these guys are great,
pretty similar for a lot of teams. Do you think
we're in for some some pretty wild guys going oh, well,
I had no idea he was going to go that high?
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Or how is this guy slipping? Those kinds of things?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Sorry, yeah, I do think we're in for that. I
mean there's a couple of positions where I'm looking and
I'm like, all right, Like, is a receiver greater in
the top ten? Probably not? Is a corner probably not.
We still could see one go, you know, Like, I
think that's what makes it interesting, is like it's a
little flat. So if you just like a player and
you're convicted about a player, you know, like, I think
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everybody would probably like to trade back. And I think
if that's the case, then nobody's going to trade back.
I mean not nobody, but not a lot of people.
So I think you're gonna have teams go you know what,
I don't view this guy as a number eleven pick
or whatever it is, but I'm just gonna take him
because he's a first rounder and he's a guy I like.
So there'll be some weirdness, like we might see two
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or three running Mexico in the first round in for instance,
just because people say, you know what, I'm gonna take
a really good player. Might see two tight ends, might
see a couple of nickels, might see a bunch of
right tackles. You know, it's like, find the player, you
might see a center, go in the top fifteen. Just
find a good player you'll like and take them and
don't really worry about the value because sort of it
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is what it is, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So Broncos whide receiver called the Sudden is said to
be a free agent come twenty twenty six, and in
October he reaches the ripe age of thirty. As guy
that play in this league, myself, once you reached twenty seven,
they think you.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Just kind of old and over the heel.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Do you see an opportunity where Colon Sudden gets in
the contract extension from the Denver Broncos before the actual
season starts, Well.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You know, he's sort of spoken out and been optimistic
about it. I hope. So he's been through a lot,
He's been through different contract situations. He's been one extension
wanted security hasn't really gotten it. You know, I would
argue he has proved himself plenty, just a big money
hasn't come. So we'll see if it does. I hope
it does for his sake. Definitely a situation where I'm
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to keep my eye on it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
How about Rory Man, I know you were watching that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I was in pain. I was in physical pain. And
I don't loot for a lot of things. I root
for the Mets and that's really it. And a couple
of golfers and I mean, he's up three hits it
in the water. Miss is a four footer, and I'm
like dying because, like, you know, I want him to
win so bad. He deserves it. He's been through a ton,
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not just on the course, but like off the course.
Is kind of a spokesman against the living all these things,
and I'm like, it's right there. He's just giving it back.
And Jessa Rows plays so great and just to see him,
you know, finally hit that part, like like I don't
get emotional very often, but I was on the verge
because I was extremely cool and I was really really
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happy for him one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Man, we're literally talking about that before you came on.
How we were like it was. It sort of transcends golf.
It was just a very human sports moment that everybody
was tuned into. Ian, You're the best, very busy week ahead.
Really appreciate the time, man.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
All right, thanks man, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I appreciate it. In a rappaport, well, I was he
in a rapport. We'll get the interview up at Kiawi
Colorado dot com. We invite you to subscribe to our
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what he said about sort of the middle of the
first round. I got an interesting take I want to
run by you. We'll get to that after five o'clock
because because there is something to what the rest of
the draft, after like the first three, maybe even four picks,
what that looks like. We're starting to know what first
three picks. I think I know what the first three
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picks are going to be, but I think after that
it's a jumbled mess. To his point though about Derek Carr,
that is a massive wild card. As we're two weeks
or less than two weeks out, we got this information
one on Friday, Thursday, Friday, something like that. We're two
weeks out for the draft, and all of a sudden
you find out that a team that probably should be
in the quarterback market is really in the quarterback market.
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So Nick Ferguson, how do you feel this impacts things? Well?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
For from the Saint standpoint, now they have to do
a lot of evaluating that they didn't do before because
they were not thinking about the quarterback at that particular position.
So the first thing I thought was, well, now Shador
Sanders could be in play if he falls where you
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know most people think that he could fall.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I think he's going to be there.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
And this is where I go back to. The mentality
is not you know when you go, is where you go?
And could that be a decent landing spot for him?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Say?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I say yes, because Kellen Moore has been around Jalen Hurts,
he's been around Dak Prescott, and maybe he going into
the situation before becoming head coach. It didn't seem as
though he was married to the whole idea of Derek Carr.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Long term.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's a temporary solution and as some would say, by
the stroke of genius or by fate and self, it's
revealed a situation where.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Now he can go get a quarterback when he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Have to wait for an arch man, right you can
go get your guy right now and start building that chemistry.
So that's the first thing I thought, Because during the
draft there's always something someone's going to do, something that
none of us predicted.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But it just happened before.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
The draft actually took place, when anyone.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Was on the clock. So this move with Derek Carr's injury.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
In my opinion, it has changed a lot about the
first round.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think it has changed a lot of things. Absolutely
couldn't agree more. And I don't know about shad or Man.
I was reading some stuff from alber Brier today and
there's some opinions out there that are being floated, and
you never know this time of year what's real and
what's smoke screen. But for a moment, if you believe it,
which again you should believe everything you'd read in the
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rate on the internet, I'd say that there's a little
bit of truth to the smoke that Shora Sanders is
not going to go in the top of this draft,
and so I do think he's gonna be there at nine,
and I think he might even be there a little
later if the Saint's pass, because then there's a big
swath of teams that don't really need quarterbacks. It kind
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of depends on a little bit of your mindset as
an organization, because what they could do theoretically is they
could say, you know what, we pass on quarterback this year,
because you mentioned Arch Manning is going to be the
prize next year, we start Spencer Rattler, We're already in
cap hell, like we need reset, a full reset year now.
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It's tough to sell to a fan base, especially if
a fan base like the Saints. We're used to a
team that is always trying to compete and do things.
But you say, you know what, we have Spencer Ratler
in the building. Let's see what he can do with
new coaches. Get here, we'll see if we got anything
in him. And if you don't, you don't. It's not
the end of the world, and you punt until next year.
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It really all comes down to nick your long view
of that position. For example, the Broncos, they took Bonis
when they took Bonix, and I loved him, right, But
they could have said, well, maybe next year's class we
like a little bit better, right, just just for argument's sake.
And in that case, they could have just taken the
best player that they wanted there at number twelve and
looked at this year as the year to go after
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a quarterback. But instead they said, no, no, no, glad, we
took Bonix. We take bo Nix now, And then you
have kind of the ocean in front of you on
what you can take a pick twenty and that is
a much better position to be in because you've already
got that position filled. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
With the idea when it comes to quarterback, everyone thinks
that the quarterback solves all your issues, and in my opinion,
it doesn't. It's one part of the puzzle. It's not
the entire puzzle.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We agree on that, right.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So the idea is that go and get the quarterback
you feel fits what you're trying to accomplish. And if
you're a coach and you feel as though the organization
is going to give you that time five six years
or whatever it is, then maybe you take that risk.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
But if you feel as though you're not going to
have that time, you go you better find whoever it
is right.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Now, all right, So we're gonna get back into the
little bit draft conversation after five o'clock. I can't wait
to get into this discussion. I do have a poll
question out there. It's kind of along the lines of
what I want to lean into. It's when selecting a
player in the first round the NFL Draft, do you
prefer your team as drafting for ceiling or floor ideally,
obviously you'd like to find a complete player that has
a high floor and has the potential to be a
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future All Pro. Sometimes that's not the case, and I
think this draft specifically, there's gonna be some teams there
in the middle of that first round that are really
asking themselves that question. I see this guy, Maybe he
doesn't quite have the traits of an all Pro, but
I know we can plug and play him day one.
I want to get to that conversation at five o'clock.
All we have to talk about the Nuggets. How about
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the Nuggets three and zero in the Attleman era and
now they're going to face the Clippers in the first round.
We'll get to a next
Excited to be back with you after a couple of
days off. Ryan Edwards. Nick Ferguson is shooting it with
me today, Nick, my friend, how are you I'm doing stupidous?
Are you really? That sounds a little.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's condescending a little bit?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Why? Why so?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Because the way you just looked at me and said,
nobody says those kinds of things, and and they don't
say it in that way unless there's some sarcasm or
snark behind it.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So I'm not sure black Eye sot by saying that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Grant, what do I say to that? You just you can't.
That's good, buddy. Yes, we're off rolling, very excited to
be here with you. We got so much to get to.
What a fun sports weekend. Of course, unless you're the
Colorado Rockies. Everybody else, everybody else, I had a lot
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of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Why did you have to address it in that way?
Everyone brought the Colorado Rockies?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, the results are what the results?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know, you know, I know the Rockies know the
Rockies fans.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, I'm not piling on, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Have to make it you know, a big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm not trying to I I what in fact, what
I was going to do is transition into all the
other fun things, the nuggets, for example, Rory for example,
gave land to Scott. There are so much great stuff
from the weekend, but I did have to acknowledge that
it wasn't great for everybody. That's it, and it's It's
(01:29):
not a pilot on this. This is my acknowledgment of
a fact of going twenty seven innings without scoring a run.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And listen, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I am an abashed Rockies fan. There's nothing they can
do that will break my will.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
But you wanted to point that out and make sure
that everyone understood that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But simultaneously, you know, you live in them the now,
and you live in the understand you know, yes, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So I'll say this in order to build someone else up.
You don't have to tell someone else down. I'm just saying.
I'm just putting out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
There unless their name is Shay Gilders Alexander and they
need to be torn down because NICOLEA. Jokich is your
true MVP. No he's not, yes he yes, No he no,
he's not. Now, I know you must be high. That's
why you started out with a stupendous thing. There's no
way that you can watch what Nicola Yoki did, which
has never been done in the history of the NBA,
and compare that to a team effort of getting the
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one seed in the West. There's no way you could
come away from this season and be a logical NBA fan,
especially living in this beautiful city, and say that Shay
Gilders Alexander is your MVP.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, that's why I'm saying it, though, because I
live here in Denver and I just.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Don't have mountain high eyes. I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I just try to see the whole spectrum.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Blink twice. If stephen A has got some of your
family Mever's hostage or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Something's in my eye right now, something's in my eye
of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Did Steve tell you to say this?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No he did not. Okay, I did not speak to
stephen A this morning.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Sounds like something Steve and A would be like, well,
how dare you question what is actually what everybody believes. Well,
you're right, it is Cha's turn.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm not gonna say it's his turn because because that
would means as though, well, you're only doing it by default.
I'm gonna look at it as though Shay has done
a hell of a job. When you look at the
scoring percentage, right you have and I'm not looking at
the numbers right in front of me, but I think
it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Shay, Yannice, and then Yo Kisch.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
When you look at number of assists, Yokich dominates that
center as a center. That's great. And then you look
at rebounds. Of course he's gonna rebound.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He doesn't always have to, because we have seen guards
like Russell Westbrook, for example, average a triple level.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Right, But that that's kind of an anomaly because that's
not something that's customary in association.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But when you start to lay out certain factors, one
guy still has his head coach, another guy doesn't.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
What does that I have to do any anything?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Your head coach was fired three games with three games remaining.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In this you're gonna put me in a bad mood.
I was in a great mood walking into the studio today.
I was I got very excited about all the great
sports we had this weekend. And you want to harp
on the Rockies and you want to harp on this
bad take about you.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Dugged on the Rockies. So you you turned the tables
and opening up the show.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I acknowledged with an intention to not spend time on it.
But then you were like, no, no, no, we got to
talk about the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's not what I said.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's exactly what you see.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You could have just.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Led off with Man, it was a great weekend in sports.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Let's hit the number one topic.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Started talking about the Masters, and then I can't wait,
segue until the Nuggets. But that's not what you did.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm just feeding off the energy that you were providing.
I was, I was feeling very stupendous. Now now I'm
just feeling stupendous.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, that's what I'm feeling, stupendous. And you say, well,
what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's what everybody in their cars say right now exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But you stole the thunder right, I mean, it was
such shine the rainbows in here.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's interesting you bring up the thunder sees where your
brain's at right now.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So, speaking on the.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Masters, yes, we all spent a lot of time because
I I thought the Masters, and specifically the drama that
happened yesterday was everything you could absolutely possibly love about sports.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You don't have to be a golf fan, No, you don't.
You don't even have to be a golf fan to
appreciate the drama of what happened. We don't have to
go blow by blow, even though I watched all of it.
You were talking, we were talking before the show came on,
and you were talking about pressure and in the moment
and how it seemed like we as a sports viewing audience,
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we're going through it with Rory. Yes, the moments when
he's up and it looks like he's cruising, he's laughing,
he's having a good time. And then he puts it
in the drink on a layup at thirteen and you're like,
oh no, here we go again, because it's him, Here
we go. And then he bounces back, he hits the
(06:25):
shot on was a fifteen and then I'm seventeen. Oh
my god. But it's so funny. You brought that up
before the show started because I was hanging out with
my girls and we were walking down to gets some
ice cream and I was like, what, girls, I can't
not watch this, So I have it on my phone,
and I'm watching it on my phone as we're walking
to go get ice cream. You know, his dad for
the weekend and the putt on eighteen that he missed.
(06:49):
I'm like, oh my god, he missed it. I'm gonna
throw up. And my girls are like, whoa, well, who missed?
What where are you going? I'm like, I just said that,
Like I said it out loud without even acknowledging anybody
else in the world around me, because I was so
into it. But he hit it into the sand with
a gap, which he gets it up on the green.
(07:12):
He's just gotta make I mean, I'm not saying it's
any putt toll foot or so for par and it's his.
It's over exercising all the demons. And he missed it.
And in that moment, I blurted out, oh my god,
he missed it. I think I'm gonna throw up so much.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
For daddy's day out because your girls were enjoying ice
cream meanwhile you were on your phone. I mean, I
don't think that you were doing your daddy duties making
sure that you were just there. Should did what I did.
I just drove somewhere else. It sat in the car
and watched it on my phone. See, so that way
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I wasn't bothering anyone.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, life's out of town. So like, oh see, I
can't ditch the kids.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I didn't know that. See you didn't leave with that.
You didn't leave with that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Is my time with my wife was on a trip,
business trip, okay, so I was responsible, and they know
the drill. They kind of understand it, like there's I
am hanging with them, we were watching.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Movies, we were here, but I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But understand. There are some moments when I gotta have to,
you know, balance it out. That's it. And so this
was this was one of those moments. Is I was
watching The Masters and we had finished dinner and I
told the girls I'd walked them down to get some
ice cream from our house, which really close, really nice,
And I said, but I got I got to keep
an eye on this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I had to.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's in a moment and it's not one of the
and it doesn't feel the same for me. I don't
know about you, but it doesn't feel the same to
go back and watch it after, Like I know there's
gonna be highlights a sports center and all that stuff,
and I could go to Twitter and I can relive them.
It's not the same as being in that moment when
it's happening with the rest of the world. There's something
very unique about that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's funny that you say that, because the people that
I talked to after they were saying how it was
very difficult for them to watch. They even got up
and left the room. Some say that they were sweating
all over their body, and I was like, well, why
are you sweating. You don't have to sing that putt.
You're not in the playoffs. He is not you. But
I get it. It's the pressure of.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Knowing as though you spent so much time.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And we talked about Roy being somewhat of can we say,
like a golf prodigy playing at every young age and
everyone aspires to when the US Open, But there's nothing
like winning the Masters. It's something different about winning the Master.
It's like, well, did you win the Super Bowl? Did
you go to the Pro Bowl? Right, there's a difference
between the two. And to watch it. I said to
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myself when I was like, no, this can't be happening again.
And I wonder what he's thinking to himself if we
are sitting watching it thinking is he about to do
it again?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Because the narrative, the whole dialogue today easily could have
been that direction. Yes, it easily could have been because
he did the double and did fallen over the bogie,
and you thought it was all slipping through through his hands, right,
you know, to.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Remind me of remember when John Elway being the top quarterback,
he was getting to Super Bowls, but he needed Super
Bowl thirty two victory to really cement his legacy because
if not, he was going to be mentioned like a
Dan Fouts, right or Jim Kelly, a guy that almost
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accomplished something spectacular, and he had to be dealing with
that in the back of his mind. Okay, well, the
ghost of Bryson D. Chambeau is coming back to get me.
I'm making a mistake again and mentally mentally collapsing. So
I would love to ask him in those moments, if
I could, how did you calm your mind? Because as
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an athlete myself, your mind is racing all over the
place and you're saying, here we go again. How do
I come back from this? How do I face golfers again?
Knowing as though another epic collapse? But he pulled it
off of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was incredible. And here's the final putt courtesy of
Jim Nance's CBS.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Not ploy.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's his masterpiece. By the way, Jim Nance just another
master class in broadcasting. I couldn't help it afterwards because
he had like a long stretch almost like five minutes,
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where he just like barely talked, if at all, because
there was so much drama.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Drama build up.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You didn't need it, you didn't need somebody jumping in.
And he is. He's so good. His timing is phenomenal.
And I even said it afterward. I tweeted out. I
was like, I can't even imagine, because I know he's
going to retire at some point from broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Who's filling those shoes?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well, I don't even know, but I can't, Like, can
you picture the Masters? Hello, friends? Can you picture the
Masters without Jim Nance's voice? I can't.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I just can't.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And it's not like he's done it forever, but it's
like been so long now that the two equate to
each other. Like when I think about the Masters, I
think about him a tradition unlike any other. And hello, friend,
I mean just and like I said, he absolutely nailed it.
He nailed the end of that thing. He brought it
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to Ah and then the interview afterwards. Now, I will say,
and it cracks me up a little bit. When they're
in the cabin, it does feel like they're trying to
get him to cry, Like it seems like the design
of this thing is to get Rory to cry more.
They kept asking about his parents, and they kept like,
they kept asking questions in a way that I'm like, look,
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I'm crying oval a little bit, but I can only
imagine what he is sitting there like okay, yeah, okay,
you're right. You bring my parents and all the sacrifices
they made, Like he said that grant, But didn't you
think that Jim nance was gonna cry too? Like it
felt like he was on the verge of tears. He
felt like, yeah, his words were kind of getting broken
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yes, I was crying like a baby in my office
and my wife's like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You're watching golf? Yeah, it's not like the X slice.
It's like funny, I care more about the Rocky's not
scoring a run of these games that do anything about golf.
That's what I'm saying that this isn't a golf conversation.
This is like a life This is a sports conversation
that transcends, in my opinion, transcends. Again, We're not gonna
spend the whole show on it. I just thought it was.
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It was tremendous. And again we got a lot of
Nuggets stuff to get to in rapport joys us here
at three thirty, we've got all sorts of football draft
stuff to get to it. Just for me, that was
one of the moments of the weekend and one of
my favorite golf term it's ever watched.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It is because here's what I would equate it to
for Rockies fans, even though you may not look at it,
because you may not be a huge Rory fan or
a golf fan. Think about what Rocktober was for the
city of Colorado. Think about whether Rockies find themselves now.
But also think about what happens if the Rockies, after
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all of.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
This, they get to a point where some.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
It's the final out and all you need is a strikeout,
you get that strikeout, and you win the championship. How
overcome with emotion would you actually be as a fan.
Just think about Cleveland, those fans who had never really
seen any team from Cleveland win anything, and then when
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Lebron went back, they'd be the Golden State Warriors with
Kyrie and they get their first championship. There were like
three generations of individuals just weeping. So I saw the
humanistic side of it, and that was something that I
tweeted out, like, look at the raw emotion that he
is exhibiting right now. It reminded me of when Todd
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when Tiger Woods won his first one, and then when
Tiger won his second one.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Right, It's that raw emotion that I love.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And the the reason why I love all sports is
because you get a chance to climb out of the seller,
to finally have your plays on the man to after
so much hard work you put in, and those teams
and that emotion that is being expressed between teammates or
coaches or players or rory in this particular situation. I
don't care if you don't like golf, but you can
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see a little of yourself in that situation. That's the
way I look at it.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Interesting reaction on the text line. By the way, listen,
people are salty on a Monday. I'm not exactly sure.
Whatever reason you have for reaching out and taking shots
or whatever. I'm not in the mood too good of
a mood to deal with a nonsense. So if you're
that unhappy, you can you can find something else to do.
It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, go kick rocks.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
This one when Nick called Ryan out for advocating his
dad duties by being on his phone for the first time.
Everyone listening to sports talk radio. My wife says about Nick,
I'm okay, if you just listen to that guy, that's funny.
I was listen. I was dad for four straight days,
and I give them so much attention. So I mean,
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I'm gonna take this as a lighter toned thing than
a you're failing as a father text. But I think
part of it is in context of all the other nonsense.
I'm here on the text line with people whining about
us starting out the show just having a little bit
of fun. Again, the whining can stop. You guys can
just just find something better to do it. It's not
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worth your time sending texts into this station to whine
about things that you're getting for free. Anyways, I don't
think I was advocating anything. I was very in tune
with my kids. We had just come off watching a movie.
I'm they understand that I sort of have to write
dual roles here, but this was a moment I just
told them and it was funny, and it was kind
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of a running joke with the kids because I kept
updating them. They both play golf, by the way, they're
both I take them out to the range, we go,
we play golf, so they like it. They're not watching
golf as much as I watch golf, but they like golf.
So I was updating throughout the whole thing. So this
was a little bit of running joke with us that
I kept updating him on Rory, like, Rory just did
a birdie. Your oh my god, this kid's gonna happen.
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Oh my god, he's gonna double, and that, you know,
they would laugh at.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, that's the drama that we don't ordinarily see
in golf that we see in other sports, and it's
one of the reasons more people don't or choose not
to watch golf because it's almost like watching Pink dry.
But this was something exceptional because we all knew going
in there was a grand slam on the line, right
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and that's right, and will what Rory had in the
end enough to overcome his demons. So once again I
go back to the idea, even if you don't watch golf,
you are a human being, and as human beings we
go through ebbs and Flow's life, right, and you have
dreams that you aspire to get to a certain point.
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Some of us live it like I did. Some of
us don't. But just because of that pat that that
that roller coaster ride, to know that this guy's been
on this roller coaster ride for almost eleven years, he's
actually seen where he could get to but never could
really get to because he didn't play well and down
in the clutch and.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He finally does it. I don't care who you are.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
If you can't say, well, that was freaking awesome, then
there's a lot that says about you, Like alex Obeskin
who broke record. Do you know how longly that record stood?
No one's probably gonna do it again, but he did that.
I'm not an avid hockey fan, but I can appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
So if you're out there you're hating whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And my comment about you know, Ryan, that was me
just poking at Ryan. I didn't know Ryan's wife was
on vacation. But sometimes that happened. That was a moment
because you will be able to and your girls will
be able to look back and say, well, hey man,
where were you when Rory did this?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I was with my daddy ice cream. Sure, right, it's
a moment I was.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I was giving them the play by play whether they liked.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It or not.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Play and again culminating with oh my god, he missed it.
I'm gonna throw up. And they were like, oh god, what.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
They're thinking, like, Dad, what just happened? We're trying to
enjoy our ice cream.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But you know, it's really funny. Like on a side note,
and again we have rein rapport John us here in
this matter of moments. What's really funny is there's moments
when you're watching sports, right and maybe somebody's out of
the room, they're not quite as tuned into it as
you are, and you make like sports sound like oh
like like oh you know, it was wondering what's happening,
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what's going on? Like so when he just lips out
of putt, you're like, ah, you know, and they're like,
oh you okay, No, I'm fine. I'm fine. You just
missed the putt. That's it. I'm fine. Or watching the
Nuggets right and Russell Westbrook throws it into the third row,
like oh, come on, and then there's like what what?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
No, west he just you know, checked it into the
third row. We're fine.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
My wife is the same way because she's starting to
know what these reactions are to know that he's just
watching sports. Nothing is happening, No one's dying, there was
no accident. He's just reacting to what he's seeing. So yes,
dontally understand it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We're off and rolling. Thank you for the ones riding
with us, for the ones that are are salty and
are still sticking around. I hope you enjoy the rest
of the show. We'll do the best we can to
entertain you and talk about the things you specifically want
to hear from, because obviously there are specific things that
people just feel like they can call out to the universe. Hey,
talk about this thing, not this thing. It's a weird
world we lived in. Ian Rapmore. Hopefully like football, he
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Thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
What's going on? Man? How are you?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We're doing great? By the way, I saw you on
Pat McAfee earlier that it's a pretty cool setup you
got going.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Well, it was very temporary. I'm actually you'd probably hear.
I'm actually in the airport right now. I'm in Mississippi.
I was in Mississippi visiting my wife's family. Kids are
on vacation, so duty called for a little bit. But
it's a absolutely beautiful setting where I was, it sure.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Looked like it.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, I'm glad you got a chance to, especially with
what's coming up in the draft, very busy time. Glad
you got a chance to maybe get away for a bit.
I did want to start out with Derek Carr and
the News on that. Like, in your opinion, how long
do you think the Saints knew about this and how
much did it impact this entire pre draft process for them?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know, I think they were probably looking for a
quarterback anyway. I think they were probably going through the
you know, pre draft process a quarterback regardles. I mean,
they've done on the homework, and they've been doing the
homework even you know, before this became kind of a thing.
But I do think it creates urgency to the same
and I think, you know, if they were uncertain about
whether or not Derek Carr would be back in twenty
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twenty six, now they are certain, they know it's not
going to happen, and in fact, there's a real possibility
he doesn't play for them at all this year. So
it just kind of ramps up the pursuit of who
is the next guy. And you know, how highly do
they think of any of these quarterbacks and do they
think highly enough to take one right? I mean, that's
sort of the big question. Like I don't know at
nine if they're going to have a chance to take
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Shador Sanders, but they might or Tyler Shook or you know,
Jackson Dart. I mean that's it's just how much do
they like one of these guys and how you know,
long of a ledge that they want to go out on.
But it certainly does ramp up the necessity of it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, when you listen to GM from the Seattle Seahawks,
John Snyder talk about the quarterback position in quarterback draft class,
he looks at this Ian is a little different from
everyone else. He went on to say that he'll be
careful when you hear people say this isn't a great
draft class. When you hear him a guy who's got
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Gino Russell. Now Sam Donald there with the Seattle Seahawks.
Is there some truth to what he's saying about these
young quarterbacks coming into the league.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Now, Well, the short answer is yes, But then the
long answer is I think he liked if you know,
if he's not looking for he's got Sam Donald. They've
got a three year deal. They can get out after one,
but it's a three year deal. So my guests is
they're not looking for a quarterback early, so they would
like quarterbacks to go before them so they get better
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position players. Right, So it's in his best interest to
say that. But I think his point is a good one,
which is that we have no idea. Like we have
no idea, we have seen years. I think the Broncos
are beneficiaries of it. You know, we've seen people pre draft.
You say, oh, well, obviously bo Nix is just X
or you know, obviously you know, Michael Pennix is you know,
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maybe it's the second rounder. We'll see it's like the
earlier than we think. And it's really impossible to know
who's going to be good in the pros and who's not.
Like last year's class was much better than anyone realized
at the time, and so for sure the thing could
be said about this year's class. I think that's his point.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Do you think we'll have any kind of indication from
Aaron Rodgers before the draft and I asking on behalf
of all Steelers fans picking at twenty one?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean, I hope.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I've enjoyed the conversation surrounding Aaron Rodgers for the last
couple of months. I think it's certainly helped us have
things to talk about on TV. It's been great. You know.
You'd like to think that he has enough sort of
respect or whatever you'd even to say for an organization
that maybe lets him know before. But he doesn't have to,
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you know, I mean, I don't think the offer is
going to be rescinded If he doesn't. He just is
like to know, and you know, if you're the Steelers
and you like a quarterback at number twenty one, you
like enough, would you not take grief you had Aaron
Rodgers Like, I don't know about that. You might take
him anyway, you know, because he's forty something years old,
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like you need one regardless. So I don't know that
it really changes things for the Steelers that much, but
would you know? You want to know what team you're
fielding before the draft, and I think just common courtesy
sort of dictates that.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Well, there's a running back that I've been really high on,
sayce like two years ago, and that's Cam Scatibul, and
not so many people are talking about him because the
conversation is often dominated by what quarterback is going to
go where? But also this is a really talented running
back class. Do you look at Cam Scattabul as being
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one of those top runners? The reason I asked because
the Denver Bronco is a team that's not far from
our studio. They are a decinal need of a running back.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Well, I think Cam Scatibul is probably not a top
running back in this draft, just based on the overall evaluation.
I guess is he's a third rounder, maybe a fourth rounder.
That doesn't mean that he can't be successful. I mean, historically,
we've got plenty of running backs who were drafted the second, third,
and fourth round to go on to be absolute superstars.
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It doesn't matter, you know. And that's one really hard
thing about running backs is like you can take one
in the first round and it doesn't amount to much.
You can take one in the sixth round and he
becomes a thousand yard rusher. It's just a matter of
finding the right guy for your system. So I don't
think Cam Scattabo is a top top running back, but
I do think he can be really really successful if
he finds the right system. And I would imagine, based
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on one I know about him as a prospect and
a player and a person, that wherever he goes probably
going to be very happy to have him.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
All righty, In last one, I have four. You always
appreciate the time my friend got the draft coming up
next week. I get the sense that we're starting to
get we're getting close to knowing what the top couple
of picks are going to be, maybe even to the
top three picks. But then it really is a blender.
It feels like, and I think oftentimes we use the
mock drafts and everybody watches all that stuff over the
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course of these months thinking this is this is what
it's going to look like. But what I gain from
a podcast and reading other people out there is there's
a sense that a lot of these guys are great,
pretty similar for a lot of teams. Do you think
we're in for some some pretty wild guys going oh, well,
I had no idea he was going to go that high?
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Or how is this guy slipping? Those kinds of things?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Sorry, yeah, I do think we're in for that. I
mean there's a couple of positions where I'm looking and
I'm like, all right, Like, is a receiver greater in
the top ten? Probably not? Is a corner probably not.
We still could see one go, you know, Like, I
think that's what makes it interesting, is like it's a
little flat. So if you just like a player and
you're convicted about a player, you know, like, I think
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everybody would probably like to trade back. And I think
if that's the case, then nobody's going to trade back.
I mean not nobody, but not a lot of people.
So I think you're gonna have teams go you know what,
I don't view this guy as a number eleven pick
or whatever it is, but I'm just gonna take him
because he's a first rounder and he's a guy I like.
So there'll be some weirdness, like we might see two
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or three running Mexico in the first round in for instance,
just because people say, you know what, I'm gonna take
a really good player. Might see two tight ends, might
see a couple of nickels, might see a bunch of
right tackles. You know, it's like, find the player, you
might see a center, go in the top fifteen. Just
find a good player you'll like and take them and
don't really worry about the value because sort of it
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is what it is, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So Broncos whide receiver called the Sudden is said to
be a free agent come twenty twenty six, and in
October he reaches the ripe age of thirty. As guy
that play in this league, myself, once you reached twenty seven,
they think you.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Just kind of old and over the heel.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Do you see an opportunity where Colon Sudden gets in
the contract extension from the Denver Broncos before the actual
season starts, Well.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You know, he's sort of spoken out and been optimistic
about it. I hope. So he's been through a lot,
He's been through different contract situations. He's been one extension
wanted security hasn't really gotten it. You know, I would
argue he has proved himself plenty, just a big money
hasn't come. So we'll see if it does. I hope
it does for his sake. Definitely a situation where I'm
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to keep my eye on it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
How about Rory Man, I know you were watching that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I was in pain. I was in physical pain. And
I don't loot for a lot of things. I root
for the Mets and that's really it. And a couple
of golfers and I mean, he's up three hits it
in the water. Miss is a four footer, and I'm
like dying because, like, you know, I want him to
win so bad. He deserves it. He's been through a ton,
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not just on the course, but like off the course.
Is kind of a spokesman against the living all these things,
and I'm like, it's right there. He's just giving it back.
And Jessa Rows plays so great and just to see him,
you know, finally hit that part, like like I don't
get emotional very often, but I was on the verge
because I was extremely cool and I was really really
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happy for him one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Man, we're literally talking about that before you came on.
How we were like it was. It sort of transcends golf.
It was just a very human sports moment that everybody
was tuned into. Ian, You're the best, very busy week ahead.
Really appreciate the time, man.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
All right, thanks man, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I appreciate it. In a rappaport, well, I was he
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what he said about sort of the middle of the
first round. I got an interesting take I want to
run by you. We'll get to that after five o'clock
because because there is something to what the rest of
the draft, after like the first three, maybe even four picks,
what that looks like. We're starting to know what first
three picks. I think I know what the first three
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picks are going to be, but I think after that
it's a jumbled mess. To his point though about Derek Carr,
that is a massive wild card. As we're two weeks
or less than two weeks out, we got this information
one on Friday, Thursday, Friday, something like that. We're two
weeks out for the draft, and all of a sudden
you find out that a team that probably should be
in the quarterback market is really in the quarterback market.
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So Nick Ferguson, how do you feel this impacts things? Well?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
For from the Saint standpoint, now they have to do
a lot of evaluating that they didn't do before because
they were not thinking about the quarterback at that particular position.
So the first thing I thought was, well, now Shador
Sanders could be in play if he falls where you
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know most people think that he could fall.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I think he's going to be there.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
And this is where I go back to. The mentality
is not you know when you go, is where you go?
And could that be a decent landing spot for him?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Say?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I say yes, because Kellen Moore has been around Jalen Hurts,
he's been around Dak Prescott, and maybe he going into
the situation before becoming head coach. It didn't seem as
though he was married to the whole idea of Derek Carr.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Long term.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's a temporary solution and as some would say, by
the stroke of genius or by fate and self, it's
revealed a situation where.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Now he can go get a quarterback when he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Have to wait for an arch man, right you can
go get your guy right now and start building that chemistry.
So that's the first thing I thought, Because during the
draft there's always something someone's going to do, something that
none of us predicted.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But it just happened before.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
The draft actually took place, when anyone.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Was on the clock. So this move with Derek Carr's injury.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
In my opinion, it has changed a lot about the
first round.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think it has changed a lot of things. Absolutely
couldn't agree more. And I don't know about shad or Man.
I was reading some stuff from alber Brier today and
there's some opinions out there that are being floated, and
you never know this time of year what's real and
what's smoke screen. But for a moment, if you believe it,
which again you should believe everything you'd read in the
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rate on the internet, I'd say that there's a little
bit of truth to the smoke that Shora Sanders is
not going to go in the top of this draft,
and so I do think he's gonna be there at nine,
and I think he might even be there a little
later if the Saint's pass, because then there's a big
swath of teams that don't really need quarterbacks. It kind
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of depends on a little bit of your mindset as
an organization, because what they could do theoretically is they
could say, you know what, we pass on quarterback this year,
because you mentioned Arch Manning is going to be the
prize next year, we start Spencer Rattler, We're already in
cap hell, like we need reset, a full reset year now.
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It's tough to sell to a fan base, especially if
a fan base like the Saints. We're used to a
team that is always trying to compete and do things.
But you say, you know what, we have Spencer Ratler
in the building. Let's see what he can do with
new coaches. Get here, we'll see if we got anything
in him. And if you don't, you don't. It's not
the end of the world, and you punt until next year.
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It really all comes down to nick your long view
of that position. For example, the Broncos, they took Bonis
when they took Bonix, and I loved him, right, But
they could have said, well, maybe next year's class we
like a little bit better, right, just just for argument's sake.
And in that case, they could have just taken the
best player that they wanted there at number twelve and
looked at this year as the year to go after
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a quarterback. But instead they said, no, no, no, glad, we
took Bonix. We take bo Nix now, And then you
have kind of the ocean in front of you on
what you can take a pick twenty and that is
a much better position to be in because you've already
got that position filled. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
With the idea when it comes to quarterback, everyone thinks
that the quarterback solves all your issues, and in my opinion,
it doesn't. It's one part of the puzzle. It's not
the entire puzzle.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We agree on that, right.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So the idea is that go and get the quarterback
you feel fits what you're trying to accomplish. And if
you're a coach and you feel as though the organization
is going to give you that time five six years
or whatever it is, then maybe you take that risk.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
But if you feel as though you're not going to
have that time, you go you better find whoever it
is right.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Now, all right, So we're gonna get back into the
little bit draft conversation after five o'clock. I can't wait
to get into this discussion. I do have a poll
question out there. It's kind of along the lines of
what I want to lean into. It's when selecting a
player in the first round the NFL Draft, do you
prefer your team as drafting for ceiling or floor ideally,
obviously you'd like to find a complete player that has
a high floor and has the potential to be a
(36:14):
future All Pro. Sometimes that's not the case, and I
think this draft specifically, there's gonna be some teams there
in the middle of that first round that are really
asking themselves that question. I see this guy, Maybe he
doesn't quite have the traits of an all Pro, but
I know we can plug and play him day one.
I want to get to that conversation at five o'clock.
All we have to talk about the Nuggets. How about
(36:34):
the Nuggets three and zero in the Attleman era and
now they're going to face the Clippers in the first round.
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