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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Orlando Franklin in studio with us
until six o'clock when we had things off to Broncos
Country tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
They got a full show tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Rockies are off looking forward to uh hear not only
their thoughts on some of the things coach Prime said today,
but also George Payton. Sean Payton, we've been playing quite
a bit of that audio as we are one week
out from the NFL Draft. Very excited about that five
six six nine zero. Again our Koe Comma Spirit Health
text line. If you want to interact with us, we'll
get to a little bit of the happenings this weekend.
(00:28):
We now know when the Nuggets are going to play,
when the Abs are going to play, so we'll get
them some expectations of all that. But the last thing
I want to play, at least for now, on the
sound from today, Sean and George addressing the media. First
question out of the gates was are you building this
offense specifically around bone Nicks and his skill set.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think answer your question is you know what's the
vision for players. We might add on offense, or we
might add on defense. When you help your defense, you
help your quarterback as well. There's a lot of runners
in this draft, you know it, certainly it's an opportunity,
but they're different type runners, you know. You know, some
(01:11):
of them are physical down no runners. Some of them
are guys that can take you know, a misdirection scissors
type run.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And go the other direction with it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And and so it just depends on what you're looking for.
But we love Voue, but we're not talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Bo in these meetings a lot. I mean, I just.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Say that, you know, I think it's really more of
how do they add to.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
What we do offensively? You like that, Dave.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They're building around the scale, they're building around what helps
the team not so much as well.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Bo really likes throwing to his left, so you know
we're going to do yeah. I think he answered completely honestly.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think when Sean Payton looks at the kind of
player he wants to draft or add, he looks for
the player that fits into his system. He's already got
the quarterback it fits in. But you're not gonna, I mean,
you're not gonna put your second year to be quarterback
in a box. To the point now where this is
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who he is and this is who he's going to
I mean, he's gonna get better and they're gonna be
things that maybe he wasn't as good at his first year,
he's gonna be a lot better at his second year
and then third year. So he's he's I mean, he's
got a lot of runway here, I think in terms
of development. And I thought he was really good as
a rookie. So yes, I one hundred percent thinking that
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Sean was telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Run game, Run game, Run game. Sean Payton got to
go find his hammer and his scalpel. That's all I
took from that SoundBite what we saw with the Saints
mark ingram Alvin Kamara, the hammer, the scalpel. We got
our change of pace guy. We got our guy to
go in between the time he's describing it to at
and that's what the Broncos need. That's the next step
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for this offense. We are already winning. Got the guys
at the tight end. Now to expose the middle of
the field. Right, we know what we have in that
wide receiver room, and that room is just going to
continue to get better in the chemistry with Bo. But
now it's about the run game. How do you make
it a lot more easier for him where it's third
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and five and you are so confident that you could
check at the line of scrimmage into a run play
instead of taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That was the life that he talked about the defense there, right,
he said, I mean that's and even admitted it as well.
Later he just asked another question, like what kind of
talent what do you need for this offense, Like what
kind of skill positions, the type of things that Listen,
We're going to do everything we can to sort of
take him off the high dive, which includes improving the defense.
And I think that you have to continue to push
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that out there that you're you're looking just for good
football players and they're in a position of that. I mean,
you listen to a lot of the national punnets talking
about the Broncos and what they might be looking at
in the draft running back keeps coming back to that.
But in the reality is most of them have said,
I don't see a lot of holes in this team,
not a lot of obvious holes. Defense win free agency,
(04:07):
defense wins championships. I've been an offensive guy my whole
entire life, and everywhere from the college level the little
league football to high school football defense wins championships.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
And I think that what we just saw with the
Super Bowl. Everybody watched how Vic Fangio in that Philadelphia
defense neutralized Patrick Mahomes, and it was we're going to
rush for and we have the ability to drop seven
and change up our coverage.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Can we win with this defense?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
So I could easily see the Broncos saying, hey, if
we got a guy now that could make it that
much easier, or interior pass rusher or or edge guy
that's a three down player, let's pull the trigger right
there at twenty could he be an every down guy
for us for this football team.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
We spent a lot of time talking about D line
as an option there for the Broncos. I don't know
about edge. Kind of feels like you're in pretty good
shape there. But again, drafting on strength, it wouldn't be
the worst thing. Well, no, it wouldn't be the worst thing.
I think Orlando is right. I think the blueprint is out.
Vic actually had that blueprint when he was the head
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coach here. He just didn't have quite the horses that
he had in Philadelphia. Right, But if you can at
any level of football, if you can line up in
a four man front and generate heavy, heavy pressure, chances
are the offense of your play is not going to
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be very good because.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I mean, even if they keep a back end. Right now,
you're releasing four. We'll do the math. You've got seven
to cover four. Can you complete some passes?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Sure? Right? But the balls.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
The thing the Eagles did in the Super Bowl, and
they did it early and often, is they they made
Patrick Mahomes really uncomfortable early in that game on the
first series, I think it was the first series.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I mean, he feels pressure almost immediately.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Pirouett's out and is running for his life out on
the right side. Now he throws a beautiful pass that
I think could have been caught. It was knocked away
or dropped whatever is incomplete. On third down, they got
a punt. But the thing with Philadelphia is not everybody
has a front four like that. So I think yes,
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I mean, I think the Broncos understand that they're smart
coaches and they look at their front and say, hey,
we're pretty good on the outside, we're getting better on
the inside. That's why I think John Franklin Myers is
such an interesting situation I mean, I think they're going
to sign Zach Allen, right, he signed DJ. But John
Franklin Myers especially coming in John Franklin Myers a pretty
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damn good football player who played pretty well last year.
Can you get him signed too?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
And you know why that Franklin That's why. But he
was very underrated player. But he went out there and
he held his own. He's a big part of this
football team. And that was a very nice pickup for
the Broncos. If you can if if you have guys
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and you look at just everybody talks about the no
fly zone, great, never had to never really worried. I
wasn't worried about that. I was worried about Von Miller,
the Marcus where then you got Malie Jackson, Derek Wolfe
and and the guy that you could pick on he
was the first round pick that he's the nose.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Tackles sevest Williams. All right, So you just look.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
At kind of where the game has went to and
it's about can you create do you have those those
horses on the edge rushing that quarterback, but also now
get your defensive tackles. These guys can they beat up
on these guards? And beat one one on one. And
if they could do that, and you could just condense
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that pocket, I'm gonna win a lot of football games.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
One of the cool things about this show we have
such an eclectic audience. I mean that, I mean from
A to Z so too quick text from seven two
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was common I made. I asked, I didn't know, more
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Speaker 2 (08:34):
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Speaker 4 (08:39):
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What what I feel a little bit naive here? What
what is DMT?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Do you know?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
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articular cyclist, psychedelic dry. That's the trip to lane.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
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psychedelic all right, huh.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
If I would have known that right off the top
of my head you had had questions about me though,
there's no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
If I just would have said it's obvious. Yeah, you
just come up with that answer like way too quick.
I'd have been like, okay, guys, yeah drug test or
Lad looked at me and said, bro, I got no idea,
no idea, I really, I really didn't. Grand didn't hesitate
you notice that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
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did you go to? Oh? You you did your dissertation
at O you on d mt DT.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I got an a.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Back to uh very quickly here on the defensive line
because you broughtup John Franklin Myers. If they take a
first round defensive lineman Dave, is that bad news for
John Franklin Myers.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Probably Yeah. It feels like he wants to stay here
because you got me. Probably. Yeah, we talked about it.
They're going to sign Zach Allen. Go sign Zach Allen.
Got Nick Benito as an edge.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But still I thought it was interesting, although not uncommon
amongst teammates, that Zach Allen, when he was he was
doing a podcasts a while back, specifically mentioned how important
John Franklin Myers was to the season that Zach Allen
had this year, and again, that's not all that uncommon
for teammates, right, but he did. He did go out
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of his way to say that dude made my life
a lot easier because he was.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Asked about double teams yep.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And so he said, oh, well, I'm glad you brought
that up, because now I can tell you about how
great John Franklin Myers is.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
D line right, got to work off of each other. Yes,
we look at the success that von Miller had here,
and you look at a guy like Wolf, Derek Man,
I guarantee that's going to be one of the first
people that Von thinks when Vn gets.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
His gold jacket one day, yep, Deeric Wolf.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And it's crazy how Derek had to be unselfish and
play off of Von Vonn had the free will to
go inside whenever he wanted. If you think that you
can make a play, you do not have to keep
contained a ninety five Wolfie. You got to make sure
that you keep contained. I Von goes inside, right, and
it changed this whole entire game. But they played off
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of each other. So now when do you have a
guy like Franklin Myers and Zach Allen and now you
know you're not getting those double teams.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Your whole process before the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Is snapped, you could think about that first pass rush
move and the second, you know, how do you transition
to your second.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Pass rush movement? And you see the success that Zach
Allen had because of it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Do you really want to break that up? They were
really good last year. But you can't pay everybody. This
is I mean, this is a conundrum every team fuss, right,
I mean, every team has to deal with his exact problem.
Can't pay everybody. You acknowledge that it was a brilliant
trade to acquire him last year during the drafts, So
about a year ago at this time is when they
acquired John Franklin Myers and is an immediate impact and
(12:17):
Malcolm Roach is right, is immediate impact players.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I mean, I I would think, again, easy to play
with somebody else's money, but I would think you find
a way to keep both of those guys, John Franklin
Myers and Malcolm Roach, because if you stop and think
about it, Sean went out of his way early last year,
and he did it several times in his press Carr's
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weekly press conferences, talking about, you know how they were
happy with the free agents they had acquired, and then
he talked specifically about they bring an attitude and an
enthusiasm and a toughness. And when you think about that,
Malcolm Roach and John Franklin Myers, I think those guys
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I think he was talking about them and Brandon Jones,
you know, guys on the defensive side that sort of
bring that mindset, like hey, I mean they get excited
to have practice because when they get excited, everybody else
gets excited because you don't want to be you know,
left out of the party, especially as like an offensive lineman.
If you got here's Malcolm Roach and John Franklin Myers
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just chirp and chirpin r. But it's like, okay, well
let's hey, let's find out. I mean, so you bring
your a game when you got guys that have that
kind of energy and enthusiasm.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And those guys are klawn too, right, They're they're they're
you know, fighting in klawn for every rep, every snap.
And when you have guys like that, that's how your
football team gets better.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Well, you show up on a Wednesday and you just
beat a team and you're saying, coach man, can we
take the pats off?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But you got a guy like Malcolm Roach or John
Franklin Myers and they're saying, hey, I'm gonna rip your
face off today. Yeah, we ain't taking that yet, we're
not taking the pants off. I used to hate mitche
On right for that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Man.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Miss to see that game. Oh I go to missbia Yo.
Just play a full game, bend up, you know. And
this is like demorel right where we're running the ball.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Fifty times a game.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I'm like, Mitch, come on now, let's let's let's ease
back a little bit. Let's brother in law this thing
up a little bit. He's like, yeah, yeah, I got
you first play nine on seven DFL looking at mis
like really dude, and I'm just like, all right, but
now we've just it my game up, like all right,
that's what it is. And now you're grinding it out
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and now your body it's battle tested and you're war
ready because of it now, because on Wednesday, you were
in full pads and your body felt like you were
at forty percent and you had a guy that played
ten snaps and this body is at ninety percent and
he was trying to dog you out. So you had
to elevate your game and that's how you become better
as a football team.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So if I'm Sean.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Payton man roster bonuses, weekly bonus, off season bonus for
these guys, you can find a way to keep these
guys here. You just got to pony up and say, hey,
let's hide the money this way.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yep, makes a lot of sense. Hey, before we hit
the break here at the bottom of the hour, I
want to ask about Lee Corso. They found out today
that he's going to be through his final game with
College Game Day in August. So it's a week one
of the college football season. Thirty eight years, I think,
is what they said.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's been doing this. I don't know, man, I am
that'll be. That'll be a really tough day.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, for Kirk kurb Street, I think to a lesser degree,
but certainly for Reese Davis.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
For who else is uh from Michigan?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, that'll be. That'll be a tough day because he's
he's been such an integral part of that that show,
and you know he's he's been in declining health. He
had a stroke, actually a couple of strokes, and he
was off for a while. Then they brought him back
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and I have just appreciated how they have treated him
on the air, right, I mean they have, especially Herbstreet
has been great, great with Lee Corso and if you look,
which I have no issue with. There are times when
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and he didn't do this obviously when he was younger
and healthier, but there have been times. There are times
where he'll get caught up a little bit. Herbstreet will
try to help him fill in a blank, but Lee
actually will turn and read exactly what he's trying to say.
So it's up on a teleprompter. And some people that
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think have maybe take an issue with that. I've got
no problem. Lee Corso is ninety it turned ninety the show.
I was going to say ninety or ninety one. But
if you do, I mean thirty eight years on that show,
that's you gotta be. You gotta be pretty damn important.
And bringing it to bring it with the with the
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Big head Bruno. Yeah, first one, the first one he
put on. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I can't think was it Bruno. I think it might've
been the Ohio State. I can't remember that. But yeah,
I mean you sit and wait for the last segment, like,
Who's what what head gears? Are you gonna put on it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was Bruno. What year was that? That was nineteen
ninety six. Wow, wow, I was nine years old. Yeah,
I was like fifteen yeah, no, yeah really yeah? What
math is that? Just like yesterday? My man? Yeah, I
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just tremendous. It's a thirty and then we started kind
of going backwards. That's not important.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
How would get there?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just important one number you get to.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You just see sort of like the fabric of college
football in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I mean there's been there have been you said, thirty
six or thirty eight, thirty eight, so there have been
something about this. If a young guy who was ten
years old in nineteen ninety six watching that program you were,
I mean you think back, you remember the programs you
saw when you were ten, right, that dude is now
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forty six years old, So they're there.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Literally has been a.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Generation of ESPN viewers on Saturday morning on Game Day
that have grown up watching that show and Lee.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Corso that dude my grandchildren. I mean, could could be
started in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Wow, nineteen eighty seven, first first year, Now year I
was born. Wow, so he's going So he's gonna do
one game this year?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
One game and you nailed it. From an emotional standpoint,
it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Herb Street will be a mess.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I think they have really developed a friendship and an appreciation.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And he has been so great. He's picking him up,
He's been great. It's been really good. I just have
so appreciated Yeah, me too, Kirk for that. Yeah, it's
gonna be tough. But I just I saw this story
today and you just think about you know, sort of
like icons of their industry, Like do you think about
what what that is and what that represents. I mean
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there's been times where, you know, hey, whatever I've got
going on Saturday morning, I'm always tuning into the end,
no question, to see the head gear, to see how
the presentation of all.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's just so much fun.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I mean there's a general alarms, there's or yeah, right,
I mean there's a generation of people of college football fans. Again,
a ten year old in eighty seven, eighty seven, eighty seven,
so now now, I mean he's in his late forties.
I bet that guy a large percentage of that age
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group they wouldn't know. Lee Corso was a head football
coach at the University of Indiana. The guy has been.
He hadn't always been the guy putting on the head gear, right.
He ran a program, He was a head football coach,
an assistant coach at a number of universities too.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What a career and tremendous And yeah, I can't wait
to watch that.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
All Right, we come back, we're gonna hear from Paul Basinette,
who was, of course does a great job former player
but now an analyst on TNT. Is gonna give us
some thoughts on the Avs as they take on the
Stars in the first round. Who a longtime NHL player
now an analyst. He's really good, Dave. You know, I
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were talking about it during the break. That show on
TNT is fabulous, excellent. It's really really good. Like it's
one of those things like you don't necessarily even have
to be the biggest hockey fan just to appreciate the
analysis and appreciate the sort of the chemistry of those
guys on the sets.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
The same thing with inside the NBA. Doesn't have to
be a big NBA person just to appreciate. But anyways,
I say, just catch up with them. You can find
the full.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
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Its redesigned.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's fantastic in your presets all set up, including us
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Speaker 2 (21:21):
So here's Paul Bsonet.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I asked them about the Ads and Stars matchup specifically.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And here's what he had to say.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I would bet the house on the Colorado Avalanche and
that series. If there's no Miro hate skin and there's
no way they're competing with Colorado, and what they've done
to that lineup, the fact that they overhauled that lineup
the way they did from the start of the year,
they had gold pending issues, they went on got two
new gold spenders. They didn't have depth at the center
right position. The only center from the start of the
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year is Nathan McKinnon. But the goal get Nelson, they
go get coiled, they go get grewy. Just an absolute
masterclass and it's awesome to see and how could you
against the mojo of getting back like that? Might be
the best worry of the season outside of the old
people Chase. So once again, DraftKings Sportsbook, I would hammer
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the Colorado Avalanche because nobody's mastering with him.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
By the way, he was brought to you by DraftKings,
so there's gonna be some references to.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And work for it. I don't know, he seems pretty high.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I did ask you about Landy's Returnal will play out
a second, But Dave, what do you think about that?
I mean, the Stars are really really struggling right now.
They played their last game last night. Robertson their second
highest point getter on the season. He's he got an
end knee injury. We don't even know his status. Yeah,
or and you mentioned Hasken and so yeah, Stars are
kind of in a bad way.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think if you and we did because it was
it was pretty easy to look, maybe even three weeks
ago and say, you know what, it's going to be
the Ads and the Stars in the first round, and
so that matchup, I think most hockey people and even
as here, it was kind of a toss up. Right,
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the Stars are gonna have home ice, But I think
a lot of people said, hey, whomever wins that series
is good enough to go all the way to the Cup.
And I think whomever comes out of the West this
year is going to be a big time favorite over
whoever comes out of the East. The West is loaded,
the East not so much. So No, I like what
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Paul said. Obviously, I think Dallas. Dallas has not played
as well down the stretch as you said. They have
a couple couple of key injuries. I mean, we all
know and and oh Oh was a huge hockey guy,
but we all know.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You get into the playoffs miraculously, guys that were injured,
tape it up, brace it up, whatever, and those dudes
are out there there you go, Yes, let's go ahead
and get that thing.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, first of all, coming out to east as the
Toronto Maple Leafs, and I'm hoping.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
For the Abs, maybe the whole.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
I root for everything Toronto first and then everything Colorado second.
So it would be nice to see the Abs and Leafs.
But man, I'll tell you what, when just looking at
this season and what Chris McFarland was able to do,
it's been unbelievable, and there was some questionable moves. It
definitely scratched my head a thousand times after Miko was traded.
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But you look at this team and they've been able
to get better on that third and fourth line, and
that's what we've been missing the last year or last
two years since we've won the Stanley Cup. So I
like it because we're back to all gas, no breaks,
Colorado Avalanche beating teams with their athletic ability. If they
keep their foot on the gas pedal, we might be
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having another Stanley Cup here in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I asked him about the return of Gabe Landskog, and
we don't really know what his role is going to be.
I know that the other day in practice they had
him on either the fourth or fifth line. So expectations,
I think as far as the amount of minutes he's
going to be playing a relatively low, but the fact
that he's out there is really tremendous.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So here's what Paul Bisonette said about it.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
He's not a one dimensional player. I said that on
the broadcast last night. And this is a guy who's
like incredible on his wallwork. He's very good dount below
the goal line in the offense his own they come
playoff time like that where you can wear teams down
offensively and make them spend time on their own end.
He's got an unreal net front presence where I really
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like what he adds if he's playing twelve minutes tonight
like he you know, he's he's a useful player and
and maybe, you know, maybe you have him second unit
power play as a net front presence just to kind
of get his feat in him a little bit more
active and getting ice time to get more involved. So
the usage of him doesn't scare me at all. And
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they have other guys to fill in those top six roles.
And I was just happy to see him not only
get in the lineup with the Age L team, but
be able to play it back to that game and
in that that's when he had his role on an assist.
So the bar and tear of playoffs, you know, can
get to you. So the fact that he was able
to play him back to back, that was a very
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promising thing.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, it was really cool. It was really cool seem
out there with the Eagles. I don't know where do
you think go? I mean you think that having Landy
out there, the lift of having the captain back with
the team, even if it's in not a prominent role,
will be that big of a lift.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Oh, one hundred percent. I mean just the leader that
he's been his whole entire career, right. I mean, we
remember back in the day when Paul stas he's the
captain of this team. And then then you see what
Landy brings to the table. You see the respect he
has in that locker room ultimately has the ads go
in a different direction. But you know, I can't say
it enough. It's that in front of the net presence,
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you know what we're hearing, His ability to condense a
other team and pay attention and now you know, being
able to lean on defenders as well, and have that
physical body present right where now you're not going to
let a guy move you, right, And it's that constant,
you know, lower body grind where you're digging your edges
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into the ice and stay and put screening the goaltender.
So it's a added dimension and the fact that he's
able now to get out there on the ice play
some hockey, wake up the next day and the knees
not bothering him, And that's been the huge thing for
the last couple of years with Landy. He's a really
good friend of mine, he has been since I got
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here in twenty eleven. But just say it's always been
the day after and he couldn't get over the hump.
So it's nice to see him get over that hump.
And when you have a guy that has so much respect,
it's almost like, man, he's out here grinding, we know
what he's been through. Guys give that extra bit of
juice as well, just because they want it so much
more for a guy like Landing that has had such
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a hard road to get back from that ag it's
been like three years.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yes, yeah, and that's you and I were talking about
this and I think you know, oh again has a
really good sense about hockey stuff. But I mean you're
talking about an elite player. We're talking about professional sports.
How many times, whether in hockey or the NFL, where
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one of your top guys goes down and is grinding
and rehabbing for three years and is able to work
his way and come back.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I mean, it is miraculous. And I think you have
to give him and those that have helped him.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So much credit and the organization credit for hanging in
there with him, because this kind of story in professional sports,
it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It just doesn't take place. They say, hey, listen, we
love you, but we got to let you go, and
we just don't want you to go through three years
of rehabbity.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Even from the player standpoint, right, I mean right, it's
so easy, right, get in the tank, like what is
wrong with me? Why is the why does this keep
on happening? So to stay out there and attack your rehab. Absolutely,
you're talking over a thousand days. I mean, it's unbelievable
and the testament to who he is as a human being.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That was where we approached at it for a couple
of days ago, when we after he had done his
work up there with the Eagles, we said, hey, man,
the mental fortitude to power through that. It's not the
physical part of what it is, like you said the
next day, feeling sore, it's the mental aspect of getting
back out there, getting out of bed in the morning
and saying no, no, I still believe in the process
and still believe in the direction.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
You don't feel any any athlete, professional athlete, maybe even college,
I don't know, maybe high school, but when you've been
hurt to that extent, you don't feel like you're part
of the team.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, you're isolated. It it's a lonely, lonely feeling.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
And to do that with the sea, right, I mean, oh, man,
like when you get hurt, your voice is taped. I've
been in meetings and I know I'm not going and
it's like curled up, like I'm nobody right now because
I'm not going this week, right, So just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Start with you, Orlando, of those two series, who has
the better chance of getting out of their first round matchup?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Of those two series?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I think I think, I thinks, yeah, I think thats
are going to take it to Dallas, and Dallas is
not the team that they they think they are. And
I just appreciate the Avs. They changed hockey in my opinion,
right because what we would see, you know, five years ago,
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was hey, once you get to the postseason, you got
to tighten up before check and you know, we're going
to be less physical, we don't want guys in the box,
and we're going to kind of slow the game down
and play that that two hundred and.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Fifty feet game.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Or they absouly said the heck with this, We're gonna
beat you with our athletic ability, right, just let's see
how fast.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
We could score points and just run up score.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
And I just love the fact that they've been able
to change the NHL and Angel I don't think Dallas
will be able to hang with them at all.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
All Right, Dave, what do you think of those two
series starting on Saturday? Which one do you like best
for our home team to be able to get out
of who.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I would I would probably say the same thing that
O did. I think the Avs.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I think the Nuggets will beat the Clippers, but I
think that's going to be just a brawl. I could
see it going seven games. Clippers are favored in that series,
even though the Nuggets have home court advantage, and the
Clippers have played well and Kawhi is healthy and that's
when he's healthy, and you and I again talked about
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this yesterday. To me, he's one of the five best
two way players that we've seen the last twenty years.
He can lock people up scores, he's a mid range scorer,
he's a power scorer.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
He's he's a nightmare. So I think I think both
home teams will win.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But I would say if I had to pick one
in terms of that I would feel most confident in,
I'd say the Apps.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
How about you? Benjamin ol Bran Broncos Country Tonight coming
to at the top of the hour. Wait, hold on
both of them. That's not the that's not the answers
the question. Anyways, both of them got to get to
the second round.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think I think the Aps are probably the right
answer there, and again on paper probably I think the
Nugget are gonna have an easier time with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I got more faith. I've got more faith in you know,
the day here. Of course I've been wrong before.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Listen, man, don't maybe, you know, seriously, don't maybe come
across that table.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I didn't say I didn't have faith. I said I
thought it was going to be a tough ass series. Well,
he's a Golden State fan, after all, you know, so
gold I got Golden State in the riot. I got
Minnesota on the left. I mean, what are we doing
Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Orlando Franklin in studio with us
until six o'clock when we had things off to Broncos
Country tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
They got a full show tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Rockies are off looking forward to uh hear not only
their thoughts on some of the things coach Prime said today,
but also George Payton. Sean Payton, we've been playing quite
a bit of that audio as we are one week
out from the NFL Draft. Very excited about that five
six six nine zero. Again our Koe Comma Spirit Health
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get to a little bit of the happenings this weekend.
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We now know when the Nuggets are going to play,
when the Abs are going to play, so we'll get
them some expectations of all that. But the last thing
I want to play, at least for now, on the
sound from today, Sean and George addressing the media. First
question out of the gates was are you building this
offense specifically around bone Nicks and his skill set.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think answer your question is you know what's the
vision for players. We might add on offense, or we
might add on defense. When you help your defense, you
help your quarterback as well. There's a lot of runners
in this draft, you know it, certainly it's an opportunity,
but they're different type runners, you know. You know, some
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of them are physical down no runners. Some of them
are guys that can take you know, a misdirection scissors
type run.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And go the other direction with it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And and so it just depends on what you're looking for.
But we love Voue, but we're not talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Bo in these meetings a lot. I mean, I just.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Say that, you know, I think it's really more of
how do they add to.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
What we do offensively? You like that, Dave.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They're building around the scale, they're building around what helps
the team not so much as well.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Bo really likes throwing to his left, so you know
we're going to do yeah. I think he answered completely honestly.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think when Sean Payton looks at the kind of
player he wants to draft or add, he looks for
the player that fits into his system. He's already got
the quarterback it fits in. But you're not gonna, I mean,
you're not gonna put your second year to be quarterback
in a box. To the point now where this is
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who he is and this is who he's going to
I mean, he's gonna get better and they're gonna be
things that maybe he wasn't as good at his first year,
he's gonna be a lot better at his second year
and then third year. So he's he's I mean, he's
got a lot of runway here, I think in terms
of development. And I thought he was really good as
a rookie. So yes, I one hundred percent thinking that
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Sean was telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Run game, Run game, Run game. Sean Payton got to
go find his hammer and his scalpel. That's all I
took from that SoundBite what we saw with the Saints
mark ingram Alvin Kamara, the hammer, the scalpel. We got
our change of pace guy. We got our guy to
go in between the time he's describing it to at
and that's what the Broncos need. That's the next step
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for this offense. We are already winning. Got the guys
at the tight end. Now to expose the middle of
the field. Right, we know what we have in that
wide receiver room, and that room is just going to
continue to get better in the chemistry with Bo. But
now it's about the run game. How do you make
it a lot more easier for him where it's third
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and five and you are so confident that you could
check at the line of scrimmage into a run play
instead of taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That was the life that he talked about the defense there, right,
he said, I mean that's and even admitted it as well.
Later he just asked another question, like what kind of
talent what do you need for this offense, Like what
kind of skill positions, the type of things that Listen,
We're going to do everything we can to sort of
take him off the high dive, which includes improving the defense.
And I think that you have to continue to push
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that out there that you're you're looking just for good
football players and they're in a position of that. I mean,
you listen to a lot of the national punnets talking
about the Broncos and what they might be looking at
in the draft running back keeps coming back to that.
But in the reality is most of them have said,
I don't see a lot of holes in this team,
not a lot of obvious holes. Defense win free agency,
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defense wins championships. I've been an offensive guy my whole
entire life, and everywhere from the college level the little
league football to high school football defense wins championships.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
And I think that what we just saw with the
Super Bowl. Everybody watched how Vic Fangio in that Philadelphia
defense neutralized Patrick Mahomes, and it was we're going to
rush for and we have the ability to drop seven
and change up our coverage.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Can we win with this defense?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
So I could easily see the Broncos saying, hey, if
we got a guy now that could make it that
much easier, or interior pass rusher or or edge guy
that's a three down player, let's pull the trigger right
there at twenty could he be an every down guy
for us for this football team.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
We spent a lot of time talking about D line
as an option there for the Broncos. I don't know
about edge. Kind of feels like you're in pretty good
shape there. But again, drafting on strength, it wouldn't be
the worst thing. Well, no, it wouldn't be the worst thing.
I think Orlando is right. I think the blueprint is out.
Vic actually had that blueprint when he was the head
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coach here. He just didn't have quite the horses that
he had in Philadelphia. Right, But if you can at
any level of football, if you can line up in
a four man front and generate heavy, heavy pressure, chances
are the offense of your play is not going to
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be very good because.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I mean, even if they keep a back end. Right now,
you're releasing four. We'll do the math. You've got seven
to cover four. Can you complete some passes?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Sure? Right? But the balls.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
The thing the Eagles did in the Super Bowl, and
they did it early and often, is they they made
Patrick Mahomes really uncomfortable early in that game on the
first series, I think it was the first series.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I mean, he feels pressure almost immediately.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Pirouett's out and is running for his life out on
the right side. Now he throws a beautiful pass that
I think could have been caught. It was knocked away
or dropped whatever is incomplete. On third down, they got
a punt. But the thing with Philadelphia is not everybody
has a front four like that. So I think yes,
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I mean, I think the Broncos understand that they're smart
coaches and they look at their front and say, hey,
we're pretty good on the outside, we're getting better on
the inside. That's why I think John Franklin Myers is
such an interesting situation I mean, I think they're going
to sign Zach Allen, right, he signed DJ. But John
Franklin Myers especially coming in John Franklin Myers a pretty
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damn good football player who played pretty well last year.
Can you get him signed too?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
And you know why that Franklin That's why. But he
was very underrated player. But he went out there and
he held his own. He's a big part of this
football team. And that was a very nice pickup for
the Broncos. If you can if if you have guys
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and you look at just everybody talks about the no
fly zone, great, never had to never really worried. I
wasn't worried about that. I was worried about Von Miller,
the Marcus where then you got Malie Jackson, Derek Wolfe
and and the guy that you could pick on he
was the first round pick that he's the nose.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Tackles sevest Williams. All right, So you just look.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
At kind of where the game has went to and
it's about can you create do you have those those
horses on the edge rushing that quarterback, but also now
get your defensive tackles. These guys can they beat up
on these guards? And beat one one on one. And
if they could do that, and you could just condense
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that pocket, I'm gonna win a lot of football games.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
One of the cool things about this show we have
such an eclectic audience. I mean that, I mean from
A to Z so too quick text from seven two
oh two three one. It's not like LSD so that
was common I made. I asked, I didn't know, more
like shrooms, but more intense. And then from the seven
(08:32):
one nine four seven, Oh, you drink it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's a form of d MT.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Ayahuashka is the drink form, and then you throw the
hell up after you take it. Meat alien me meet
aliens in Jesus. But you can also smoke d MT.
What what I feel a little bit naive here? What
what is DMT?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Do you know?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I don't, Ryan, I'm gonna gt us d MT die. Jeez,
articular cyclist, psychedelic dry. That's the trip to lane.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
There you go, look, get you you little yeah, strong
psychedelic all right, huh.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
If I would have known that right off the top
of my head you had had questions about me though,
there's no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
If I just would have said it's obvious. Yeah, you
just come up with that answer like way too quick.
I'd have been like, okay, guys, yeah drug test or
Lad looked at me and said, bro, I got no idea,
no idea, I really, I really didn't. Grand didn't hesitate
you notice that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah the bullet tie it is dissertation at what school
did you go to? Oh? You you did your dissertation
at O you on d mt DT.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I got an a.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Back to uh very quickly here on the defensive line
because you broughtup John Franklin Myers. If they take a
first round defensive lineman Dave, is that bad news for
John Franklin Myers.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Probably Yeah. It feels like he wants to stay here
because you got me. Probably. Yeah, we talked about it.
They're going to sign Zach Allen. Go sign Zach Allen.
Got Nick Benito as an edge.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But still I thought it was interesting, although not uncommon
amongst teammates, that Zach Allen, when he was he was
doing a podcasts a while back, specifically mentioned how important
John Franklin Myers was to the season that Zach Allen
had this year, and again, that's not all that uncommon
for teammates, right, but he did. He did go out
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of his way to say that dude made my life
a lot easier because he was.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Asked about double teams yep.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And so he said, oh, well, I'm glad you brought
that up, because now I can tell you about how
great John Franklin Myers is.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
D line right, got to work off of each other. Yes,
we look at the success that von Miller had here,
and you look at a guy like Wolf, Derek Man,
I guarantee that's going to be one of the first
people that Von thinks when Vn gets.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
His gold jacket one day, yep, Deeric Wolf.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And it's crazy how Derek had to be unselfish and
play off of Von Vonn had the free will to
go inside whenever he wanted. If you think that you
can make a play, you do not have to keep
contained a ninety five Wolfie. You got to make sure
that you keep contained. I Von goes inside, right, and
it changed this whole entire game. But they played off
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of each other. So now when do you have a
guy like Franklin Myers and Zach Allen and now you
know you're not getting those double teams.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Your whole process before the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Is snapped, you could think about that first pass rush
move and the second, you know, how do you transition
to your second.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Pass rush movement? And you see the success that Zach
Allen had because of it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Do you really want to break that up? They were
really good last year. But you can't pay everybody. This
is I mean, this is a conundrum every team fuss, right,
I mean, every team has to deal with his exact problem.
Can't pay everybody. You acknowledge that it was a brilliant
trade to acquire him last year during the drafts, So
about a year ago at this time is when they
acquired John Franklin Myers and is an immediate impact and
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Malcolm Roach is right, is immediate impact players.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I mean, I I would think, again, easy to play
with somebody else's money, but I would think you find
a way to keep both of those guys, John Franklin
Myers and Malcolm Roach, because if you stop and think
about it, Sean went out of his way early last year,
and he did it several times in his press Carr's
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weekly press conferences, talking about, you know how they were
happy with the free agents they had acquired, and then
he talked specifically about they bring an attitude and an
enthusiasm and a toughness. And when you think about that,
Malcolm Roach and John Franklin Myers, I think those guys
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I think he was talking about them and Brandon Jones,
you know, guys on the defensive side that sort of
bring that mindset, like hey, I mean they get excited
to have practice because when they get excited, everybody else
gets excited because you don't want to be you know,
left out of the party, especially as like an offensive lineman.
If you got here's Malcolm Roach and John Franklin Myers
(13:24):
just chirp and chirpin r. But it's like, okay, well
let's hey, let's find out. I mean, so you bring
your a game when you got guys that have that
kind of energy and enthusiasm.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And those guys are klawn too, right, They're they're they're
you know, fighting in klawn for every rep, every snap.
And when you have guys like that, that's how your
football team gets better.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Well, you show up on a Wednesday and you just
beat a team and you're saying, coach man, can we
take the pats off?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But you got a guy like Malcolm Roach or John
Franklin Myers and they're saying, hey, I'm gonna rip your
face off today. Yeah, we ain't taking that yet, we're
not taking the pants off. I used to hate mitche
On right for that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Man.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Miss to see that game. Oh I go to missbia Yo.
Just play a full game, bend up, you know. And
this is like demorel right where we're running the ball.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Fifty times a game.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I'm like, Mitch, come on now, let's let's let's ease
back a little bit. Let's brother in law this thing
up a little bit. He's like, yeah, yeah, I got
you first play nine on seven DFL looking at mis
like really dude, and I'm just like, all right, but
now we've just it my game up, like all right,
that's what it is. And now you're grinding it out
(14:34):
and now your body it's battle tested and you're war
ready because of it now, because on Wednesday, you were
in full pads and your body felt like you were
at forty percent and you had a guy that played
ten snaps and this body is at ninety percent and
he was trying to dog you out. So you had
to elevate your game and that's how you become better
as a football team.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So if I'm Sean.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Payton man roster bonuses, weekly bonus, off season bonus for
these guys, you can find a way to keep these
guys here. You just got to pony up and say, hey,
let's hide the money this way.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yep, makes a lot of sense. Hey, before we hit
the break here at the bottom of the hour, I
want to ask about Lee Corso. They found out today
that he's going to be through his final game with
College Game Day in August. So it's a week one
of the college football season. Thirty eight years, I think,
is what they said.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's been doing this. I don't know, man, I am
that'll be. That'll be a really tough day.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, for Kirk kurb Street, I think to a lesser degree,
but certainly for Reese Davis.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
For who else is uh from Michigan?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, that'll be. That'll be a tough day because he's
he's been such an integral part of that that show,
and you know he's he's been in declining health. He
had a stroke, actually a couple of strokes, and he
was off for a while. Then they brought him back
(16:08):
and I have just appreciated how they have treated him
on the air, right, I mean they have, especially Herbstreet
has been great, great with Lee Corso and if you look,
which I have no issue with. There are times when
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and he didn't do this obviously when he was younger
and healthier, but there have been times. There are times
where he'll get caught up a little bit. Herbstreet will
try to help him fill in a blank, but Lee
actually will turn and read exactly what he's trying to say.
So it's up on a teleprompter. And some people that
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think have maybe take an issue with that. I've got
no problem. Lee Corso is ninety it turned ninety the show.
I was going to say ninety or ninety one. But
if you do, I mean thirty eight years on that show,
that's you gotta be. You gotta be pretty damn important.
And bringing it to bring it with the with the
(17:14):
Big head Bruno. Yeah, first one, the first one he
put on. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I can't think was it Bruno. I think it might've
been the Ohio State. I can't remember that. But yeah,
I mean you sit and wait for the last segment, like,
Who's what what head gears? Are you gonna put on it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was Bruno. What year was that? That was nineteen
ninety six. Wow, wow, I was nine years old. Yeah,
I was like fifteen yeah, no, yeah really yeah? What
math is that? Just like yesterday? My man? Yeah, I
(17:54):
just tremendous. It's a thirty and then we started kind
of going backwards. That's not important.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
How would get there?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just important one number you get to.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You just see sort of like the fabric of college
football in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I mean there's been there have been you said, thirty
six or thirty eight, thirty eight, so there have been
something about this. If a young guy who was ten
years old in nineteen ninety six watching that program you were,
I mean you think back, you remember the programs you
saw when you were ten, right, that dude is now
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forty six years old, So they're there.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Literally has been a.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Generation of ESPN viewers on Saturday morning on Game Day
that have grown up watching that show and Lee.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Corso that dude my grandchildren. I mean, could could be
started in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Wow, nineteen eighty seven, first first year, Now year I
was born. Wow, so he's going So he's gonna do
one game this year?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
One game and you nailed it. From an emotional standpoint,
it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Herb Street will be a mess.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I think they have really developed a friendship and an appreciation.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And he has been so great. He's picking him up,
He's been great. It's been really good. I just have
so appreciated Yeah, me too, Kirk for that. Yeah, it's
gonna be tough. But I just I saw this story
today and you just think about you know, sort of
like icons of their industry, Like do you think about
what what that is and what that represents. I mean
(19:31):
there's been times where, you know, hey, whatever I've got
going on Saturday morning, I'm always tuning into the end,
no question, to see the head gear, to see how
the presentation of all.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's just so much fun.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I mean there's a general alarms, there's or yeah, right,
I mean there's a generation of people of college football fans. Again,
a ten year old in eighty seven, eighty seven, eighty seven,
so now now, I mean he's in his late forties.
I bet that guy a large percentage of that age
(20:01):
group they wouldn't know. Lee Corso was a head football
coach at the University of Indiana. The guy has been.
He hadn't always been the guy putting on the head gear, right.
He ran a program, He was a head football coach,
an assistant coach at a number of universities too.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What a career and tremendous And yeah, I can't wait
to watch that.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
All Right, we come back, we're gonna hear from Paul Basinette,
who was, of course does a great job former player
but now an analyst on TNT. Is gonna give us
some thoughts on the Avs as they take on the
Stars in the first round. Who a longtime NHL player
now an analyst. He's really good, Dave. You know, I
(20:45):
were talking about it during the break. That show on
TNT is fabulous, excellent. It's really really good. Like it's
one of those things like you don't necessarily even have
to be the biggest hockey fan just to appreciate the
analysis and appreciate the sort of the chemistry of those
guys on the sets.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
The same thing with inside the NBA. Doesn't have to
be a big NBA person just to appreciate. But anyways,
I say, just catch up with them. You can find
the full.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Interview at Kwaclorado dot com and once again, if you
ever missed any parts of the show, check it out
on the iHeartRadio app, which is now improved, like you
have in your car.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Its redesigned.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's fantastic in your presets all set up, including us
here on KWA.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So here's Paul Bsonet.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I asked them about the Ads and Stars matchup specifically.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And here's what he had to say.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I would bet the house on the Colorado Avalanche and
that series. If there's no Miro hate skin and there's
no way they're competing with Colorado, and what they've done
to that lineup, the fact that they overhauled that lineup
the way they did from the start of the year,
they had gold pending issues, they went on got two
new gold spenders. They didn't have depth at the center
right position. The only center from the start of the
(21:48):
year is Nathan McKinnon. But the goal get Nelson, they
go get coiled, they go get grewy. Just an absolute
masterclass and it's awesome to see and how could you
against the mojo of getting back like that? Might be
the best worry of the season outside of the old
people Chase. So once again, DraftKings Sportsbook, I would hammer
(22:12):
the Colorado Avalanche because nobody's mastering with him.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
By the way, he was brought to you by DraftKings,
so there's gonna be some references to.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And work for it. I don't know, he seems pretty high.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I did ask you about Landy's Returnal will play out
a second, But Dave, what do you think about that?
I mean, the Stars are really really struggling right now.
They played their last game last night. Robertson their second
highest point getter on the season. He's he got an
end knee injury. We don't even know his status. Yeah,
or and you mentioned Hasken and so yeah, Stars are
kind of in a bad way.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think if you and we did because it was
it was pretty easy to look, maybe even three weeks
ago and say, you know what, it's going to be
the Ads and the Stars in the first round, and
so that matchup, I think most hockey people and even
as here, it was kind of a toss up. Right,
(23:03):
the Stars are gonna have home ice, But I think
a lot of people said, hey, whomever wins that series
is good enough to go all the way to the Cup.
And I think whomever comes out of the West this
year is going to be a big time favorite over
whoever comes out of the East. The West is loaded,
the East not so much. So No, I like what
(23:25):
Paul said. Obviously, I think Dallas. Dallas has not played
as well down the stretch as you said. They have
a couple couple of key injuries. I mean, we all
know and and oh Oh was a huge hockey guy,
but we all know.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You get into the playoffs miraculously, guys that were injured,
tape it up, brace it up, whatever, and those dudes
are out there there you go, Yes, let's go ahead
and get that thing.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, first of all, coming out to east as the
Toronto Maple Leafs, and I'm hoping.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
For the Abs, maybe the whole.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
I root for everything Toronto first and then everything Colorado second.
So it would be nice to see the Abs and Leafs.
But man, I'll tell you what, when just looking at
this season and what Chris McFarland was able to do,
it's been unbelievable, and there was some questionable moves. It
definitely scratched my head a thousand times after Miko was traded.
(24:23):
But you look at this team and they've been able
to get better on that third and fourth line, and
that's what we've been missing the last year or last
two years since we've won the Stanley Cup. So I
like it because we're back to all gas, no breaks,
Colorado Avalanche beating teams with their athletic ability. If they
keep their foot on the gas pedal, we might be
(24:43):
having another Stanley Cup here in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I asked him about the return of Gabe Landskog, and
we don't really know what his role is going to be.
I know that the other day in practice they had
him on either the fourth or fifth line. So expectations,
I think as far as the amount of minutes he's
going to be playing a relatively low, but the fact
that he's out there is really tremendous.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So here's what Paul Bisonette said about it.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
He's not a one dimensional player. I said that on
the broadcast last night. And this is a guy who's
like incredible on his wallwork. He's very good dount below
the goal line in the offense his own they come
playoff time like that where you can wear teams down
offensively and make them spend time on their own end.
He's got an unreal net front presence where I really
(25:28):
like what he adds if he's playing twelve minutes tonight
like he you know, he's he's a useful player and
and maybe, you know, maybe you have him second unit
power play as a net front presence just to kind
of get his feat in him a little bit more
active and getting ice time to get more involved. So
the usage of him doesn't scare me at all. And
(25:49):
they have other guys to fill in those top six roles.
And I was just happy to see him not only
get in the lineup with the Age L team, but
be able to play it back to that game and
in that that's when he had his role on an assist.
So the bar and tear of playoffs, you know, can
get to you. So the fact that he was able
to play him back to back, that was a very
(26:09):
promising thing.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, it was really cool. It was really cool seem
out there with the Eagles. I don't know where do
you think go? I mean you think that having Landy
out there, the lift of having the captain back with
the team, even if it's in not a prominent role,
will be that big of a lift.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Oh, one hundred percent. I mean just the leader that
he's been his whole entire career, right. I mean, we
remember back in the day when Paul stas he's the
captain of this team. And then then you see what
Landy brings to the table. You see the respect he
has in that locker room ultimately has the ads go
in a different direction. But you know, I can't say
it enough. It's that in front of the net presence,
(26:47):
you know what we're hearing, His ability to condense a
other team and pay attention and now you know, being
able to lean on defenders as well, and have that
physical body present right where now you're not going to
let a guy move you, right, And it's that constant,
you know, lower body grind where you're digging your edges
(27:08):
into the ice and stay and put screening the goaltender.
So it's a added dimension and the fact that he's
able now to get out there on the ice play
some hockey, wake up the next day and the knees
not bothering him, And that's been the huge thing for
the last couple of years with Landy. He's a really
good friend of mine, he has been since I got
(27:29):
here in twenty eleven. But just say it's always been
the day after and he couldn't get over the hump.
So it's nice to see him get over that hump.
And when you have a guy that has so much respect,
it's almost like, man, he's out here grinding, we know
what he's been through. Guys give that extra bit of
juice as well, just because they want it so much
more for a guy like Landing that has had such
(27:52):
a hard road to get back from that ag it's
been like three years.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yes, yeah, and that's you and I were talking about
this and I think you know, oh again has a
really good sense about hockey stuff. But I mean you're
talking about an elite player. We're talking about professional sports.
How many times, whether in hockey or the NFL, where
(28:15):
one of your top guys goes down and is grinding
and rehabbing for three years and is able to work
his way and come back.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I mean, it is miraculous. And I think you have
to give him and those that have helped him.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So much credit and the organization credit for hanging in
there with him, because this kind of story in professional sports,
it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It just doesn't take place. They say, hey, listen, we
love you, but we got to let you go, and
we just don't want you to go through three years
of rehabbity.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Even from the player standpoint, right, I mean right, it's
so easy, right, get in the tank, like what is
wrong with me? Why is the why does this keep
on happening? So to stay out there and attack your rehab. Absolutely,
you're talking over a thousand days. I mean, it's unbelievable
and the testament to who he is as a human being.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That was where we approached at it for a couple
of days ago, when we after he had done his
work up there with the Eagles, we said, hey, man,
the mental fortitude to power through that. It's not the
physical part of what it is, like you said the
next day, feeling sore, it's the mental aspect of getting
back out there, getting out of bed in the morning
and saying no, no, I still believe in the process
and still believe in the direction.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
You don't feel any any athlete, professional athlete, maybe even college,
I don't know, maybe high school, but when you've been
hurt to that extent, you don't feel like you're part
of the team.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, you're isolated. It it's a lonely, lonely feeling.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
And to do that with the sea, right, I mean, oh, man,
like when you get hurt, your voice is taped. I've
been in meetings and I know I'm not going and
it's like curled up, like I'm nobody right now because
I'm not going this week, right, So just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Start with you, Orlando, of those two series, who has
the better chance of getting out of their first round matchup?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Of those two series?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I think I think, I thinks, yeah, I think thats
are going to take it to Dallas, and Dallas is
not the team that they they think they are. And
I just appreciate the Avs. They changed hockey in my opinion,
right because what we would see, you know, five years ago,
(30:39):
was hey, once you get to the postseason, you got
to tighten up before check and you know, we're going
to be less physical, we don't want guys in the box,
and we're going to kind of slow the game down
and play that that two hundred and.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Fifty feet game.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Or they absouly said the heck with this, We're gonna
beat you with our athletic ability, right, just let's see
how fast.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
We could score points and just run up score.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
And I just love the fact that they've been able
to change the NHL and Angel I don't think Dallas
will be able to hang with them at all.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
All Right, Dave, what do you think of those two
series starting on Saturday? Which one do you like best
for our home team to be able to get out
of who.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I would I would probably say the same thing that
O did. I think the Avs.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I think the Nuggets will beat the Clippers, but I
think that's going to be just a brawl. I could
see it going seven games. Clippers are favored in that series,
even though the Nuggets have home court advantage, and the
Clippers have played well and Kawhi is healthy and that's
when he's healthy, and you and I again talked about
(31:52):
this yesterday. To me, he's one of the five best
two way players that we've seen the last twenty years.
He can lock people up scores, he's a mid range scorer,
he's a power scorer.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
He's he's a nightmare. So I think I think both
home teams will win.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But I would say if I had to pick one
in terms of that I would feel most confident in,
I'd say the Apps.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
How about you? Benjamin ol Bran Broncos Country Tonight coming
to at the top of the hour. Wait, hold on
both of them. That's not the that's not the answers
the question. Anyways, both of them got to get to
the second round.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think I think the Aps are probably the right
answer there, and again on paper probably I think the
Nugget are gonna have an easier time with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I got more faith. I've got more faith in you know,
the day here. Of course I've been wrong before.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Listen, man, don't maybe, you know, seriously, don't maybe come
across that table.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I didn't say I didn't have faith. I said I
thought it was going to be a tough ass series. Well,
he's a Golden State fan, after all, you know, so
gold I got Golden State in the riot. I got
Minnesota on the left. I mean, what are we doing
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