April 23, 2025 • 42 mins
Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk Travis Perry entering the transfer portal and take your calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR Pre Show.
Today is Wednesday, April twenty third, and I'm Billy Rutlids
along with Shannon the Dude. You can give us a
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a great dinner spot if you're in the city. Good morning, Shannon,
It's good to see you, buddy. What's up very Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Got my silk socks on? Ready to go for another
pre show this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Stop it? Why is that my first topic on my
list that I looked up bamboo socks yesterday after the show, Shannon,
come on, Pam read in my mind.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Uh, you know, I bought a bamboo shirt before in
the past, and you know, it looked really cool. It
looked good enough to sell me on it. But then
when I got it and rent it through the laundry
recycle a few times. It got all these little bitty
like little fur balls on them, you know that pop
up when you do the laundry.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, I know, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, So I had to throw the shirt away.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So my thoughts on bamboo. I don't have bamboo socks,
but shirts. It's a no go for me because of
my one experience with that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But bamboo sheets, Oh yeah, we're talking.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Let me ring the bell for you here.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I've got some bamboo sheets. Those are good. I've got them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes. The fiance always hooks us up with the best mattresses,
the best pillows, and she came home one day with
some bamboo sheets. Changed our lives. Shannon, So, I wanted
to start the show with saying what can't bamboo do?
But apparently you can't run it through the dryer too
many times or you'll get the fuzzy things. Yeah a shirt, yeah,
Shannon said, But you know, bamboo is a substitute for
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wood when you're building things. It's something that you can eat.
It's also the fastest growing plant on Earth. It can
grow up to three feet a day, so it's incredible.
All the things that you can do with bamboo. Did
not know that there was a market for socks out there,
but it sounds like I think a lot of people
in Kentucky learned that yesterday when Matt talked about his
trip to Amsterdam.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, three feet a day? Is that right? Like bamboo,
I knew it grew quickly, but.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Feet a day?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Or it's possible to get up to three feet a day.
Kind of varies.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So if I put some bamboo in my backyard, like
within two days, I've got six feet of bamboo.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Neighbors aren't going to be seen if you post it
on the fence.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, don't worry about.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm gonna chop it down and mix socks out of it.
So there's a lot of purposes you can use it for.
But it sounds like we need to get on the
bamboo sock train. Today is Wednesday, April twenty third, and
the transfer portal is closed. It's closed, folks. You can
no longer enter the portal. Now. There's going to be
plenty of movement still in the coming days and weeks,
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but Shannon, finally the portal has closed. It seemed like
a very long two and a half three week period,
and we got some more movement in it yesterday that
we'll talk about in just a bit. But we just
live in crazy times, do we not. It's just this
transfer portal thing is odd, and we finally see it
to a close today, even though we'll still see some
movement in the coming days.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That is college sports the way it is now, and
I think for the foreseeable future, it's just going to
be every off season dealing with literally thousands of players
jumping in the transfer portal. And you know, like I
was one that was always for the transfer portal. I've
always said, if college coaches can come and go as
they please, players should be allowed to do the same thing.
(03:25):
But I'll tell you this nil situation on top of
it just throws in an all new mix. You know,
not only are players leaving because maybe they're unhappy, but
they're also leaving because they can get more money.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And you know, it's the free market. It's the way
of the world.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, if you and I want to leave and
go get a better job somewhere with more money, you're
free to do it. So that's sort of what college
sports has become.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, but I'm not really going to get paid money
to do one hour of work per day, Shannon, I
mean it might be tough for Billy Arschae.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You got it made, You got it made.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We're not going to get into that. But if with
the trans portal closing today, if you were to look
at most websites official rankings, Kentucky has get ready for
this in the number one transfer portal class number one boom.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How about that, man?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, I mean you look at all the experience that
they've brought in. A guy from a national championship team,
has that pedigree to go along with him, and another
transfer from Alabama, very good Alabama team. You get throw
on some of these mid major players as well. I mean,
it worked out pretty well for Mark Pope in one season,
and that was throwing it all together very quickly. He
had an entire recruiting cycle to put this team together,
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and you know, I think we should all be really
excited about what's ahead for next season.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Now, teams will still sign players, so that is not
the final ranking, but as of right now, if you
were to looking on three starts, Kentucky is number one.
There were still some movement in the final day of
the transfer portal yesterday Boogie Fland entered it from Arkansas.
Walker Horn and Grant Darbyshire both have entered the portal
show I know to see them go, but also Travis Perry,
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the eleventh hour addition to the Transfer portal, will Live,
will be leaving Kentucky. Played in thirty one games, averaged
two point seven points per game in nine point seven minutes,
but he was thrusted into a starting role at times,
started three straight games during SEC play. Also started in
the SEC Tournament when Kentucky took on Bama. Obviously a
Kentucky kid in the all time scoring record holder in
(05:26):
the state of Kentucky for high school. But Shannon, what
were your thoughts when you heard the news that Travis
Perry would be leaving the Cats last night?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Slightly surprised, not like, you know, over the top shocked,
but you know, this is a Kentucky kid who knows
what it's who knows what it means to put on
that Kentucky jersey. And I guess he just saw the
writing on the wall, you know, with the guards that
Pope has brought in through the Transfer portal, looked at
it and said, well, my minutes will probably be really limited.
(05:54):
But you know, again it comes down to I just
I see so many times players just entering the transfer portal.
It's the easy way out. I don't know, like whatever
came to, you know, whatever happened to fighting for your
spot on the team, you know, I don't know. Maybe
he just feels like he wants to go somewhere. Obviously
he does. He feels like he wants to go somewhere else.
(06:14):
I just don't know where that somewhere else is going
to be where he's going to get more playing time
unless he takes a big step down to maybe like
a mid major type of school.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean, it's tough being a freshman in college athletics
trying to play at a blue blood nowadays, because you
can so much easier over recruit these guys, right, I mean,
you can bring in a guy with national championship experience,
was the sixth man on the national title winning Florida Gators,
and you're gonna want to play him a little bit
more than a sophomore Travis Perry who was still adjusting
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to the physicality of the game and still learning what
he is good at, even though we do know he
can shoot that damn ball, My funky rooster brethren is
leaving me. Shannon, No, hopefully he doesn't go far. I
think my first thought when he went to the portal
was come on down to the Hilltoppers.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
All the Hilltoppers.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I stared, Kentucky, come on down to Bowling Green. It's
not too far.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That could.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I don't know what Western Kentucky Basketball's roster looks like,
but I could definitely see them making a spot for
Travis pier.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
We got a spot for him. We got a spot,
no matter what. Okay, no, no matter what. I mean,
this is the all time leave scorer. Shannon gets some
respect on TP's name. Now, I've seen a lot of
people say this is a bad move by Mark Pope
to force out Travis Perry. I don't think that was
the case. Some reporting by Jack Pilgrim on Kezar plus
seem to believe that this was a surprise too many
on the Kentucky coaching staff. They wanted to go into
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the season with the role that they had Travis Perry
ready to fill. But like you said, Shannon, I kind
of get it. I mean, despite your love for a university,
if you see the the quote writing on the wall
that you're gonna get maybe two three minutes of playing
time unless you have a ton of injuries to the
guard spot. Why not go play somewhere else and make
that money and do what you wanted to do at
(07:58):
that level. I get what you're saying. You know, the
kids don't stay and they're not going to fight for
a spot anymore. But in today's landscape, I can't blame
a kid for making this kind of decision, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, if you look at last season, though, did
we really expect Travis Perry to play at all?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I know, I know, you know, injuries factored in, No injuries.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Factored in, and you know, I think he took advantage
of those of those minutes that he had. But you know,
let's not act like we're going to go through an
entire season without one injury. I mean, is there ever
a season that goes by where somebody doesn't get banged
up a little bit to the point to where you
have to go next.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Man up on the bench. Never.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I mean, you're gonna have to have depth. Yeah, that's important.
But Kentucky's got like thirteen guys that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Can play now, Shannon, Yeah, So why don't you just
work on your game and improve your game to the
point to where you're not the thirteenth man off the bench.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know, you're a guy that's fighting for playing time.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But now it's like you said, well, it doesn't look
like I'm going to get any minutes. Let me just
go over here instead. It's too easy.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I would think that the nil money, though, would be
better at Kentucky than anywhere else. I mean, you're a
Kentucky guy. You know, you got this in your blood.
And now let's say you go transfer to I don't know,
I have no idea. Let's just throw a name out there, Dayton,
Okay or Xavier. You're not gonna get the Nile money
there that you would get here as a Kentucky guy.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So no, But these guys are competitors, right, and I
mean to a degree. I think you know, if you
ask the man to man when the lights aren't on,
they want to play right. The money's nice, and that's
obviously a sticking point with a lot of people, but
there's also a reason why people are like, how many
starting minutes are you gonna give me? Because these guys
want to go to a place where they can play now.
(09:37):
You know, I think we could see a trend out
of this where freshmen probably start going to mid majors
because they're not going to play at the Saint John's right,
They're not going to just start at Kentucky unless you
are a consensus top five pick in the NBA draft.
So maybe that does help schools like Eastern and Western
and maybe even a Bellerman get some talent that they
wouldn't in the past. Hell, maybe Travis comes back, Shannon,
(10:00):
maybe he goes to Western for a couple of years
and there's a spot at Kentucky when he's a.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Little bit better to never know, it could always happen.
That's why you never burn a bridge.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
If you're a coach or a recruiter, you know, you
see Vince Merrow, Vince you.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Know, go out, go out and get guys.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And you know always stays in contact with him. You're
always constantly recruiting that. You know, the recruiting season never ends.
It's it's round the clock. Now three are sixty five
days a year, So you know, there's always a chance
he could come back. But you know, wherever he goes,
best of luck to him. But I don't know man
for a Kentucky guy playing at the University of Kentucky.
I don't see how it gets any better than that.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So, now, what was your favorite Travis Perry moment of
the season. I'll give you a couple. I think Trent
Noah had a no look past to Perry in the
corner who hit a big three at at one time.
You know, he accidentally shaved off his mustache when he
was trying to touch it up a little bit, and
then he I think he had a pretty good game
the next day. You know, probably not many moments, but
(10:54):
what are you going to remember with TP in the
Blue and White Show.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I don't know that there's like one specific moment. I think,
you know, just to see and in general of him,
like we said earlier, you know, kind of being thrown
into the spotlight and yeah, here you go, kid, let's
see what you got. I think he I can't remember
which games for me, it all runs together, but I
think he had one game where he knocked down to
two or three threes if I'm not mistaken. You know,
I think he did a really good job given the circumstances.
(11:20):
And you know, it's a guy that I hate to
see him go. But you know, I also understand that
he's got to do what he feels like.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is best for him.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't know if it's a favorite moment, but there
was a time where he wasn't getting any calls, and
I believe Mark Sears would go down and throw his
head back and get every single call. And Jack Gibbons
is on the radio saying, man, he's he's not old
enough to get that call. You got to earn some
respect in the SEC to get that guy, Shandon, I
thought you were supposed to call the game the same
way for everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, come on, if
it's a foul, it's a foul. It shouldn't matter what
your age is or how long you've been in the league.
And you see that you see some favorable calls. I
think in the NBA, you know, with a guy like
Lebron who gets some fair calls. But right you know,
it should be if it's a foul, it's a foul.
It doesn't matter who it is or what the name.
When the back of the jersey says or the front
of the jersey, it fouls a foul. But you know,
(12:09):
in reality, some of these guys probably do get favorable
calls just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And I'm not going to act like
the screaming at the referee for the entire game doesn't
have an effect either, Shannon. I mean, after I get
berated for thirty eight minutes, I might make a call
against your team. That may jeopardize my integrity, Shannon, But
I feel like that's just human nature. Yeah, and that's
the beauty of sports. A lot of times, that's the
beauty of baseball. And how beautiful was that baseball last night, Shannon,
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as the Cats beat Louisville seventeen to five and run
ruled them.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, beautiful for Kentucky, ugly for Louisville. Eleven walks, six
hit batsman.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Is that right? Eleven and six for walks and hit batters.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, how do we have six guys get hit
by a pitch and not have some sort of brawl.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You think, just on paper rivalry game that should start it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But I was watching a Major League baseball game the
other night. Guy didn't even hit the person. He had
two pitches that came in really close, but they threw
the guy out.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Didn't even hit the guy, what the pitcher They.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Threw the pitcher out? Yes, I guess it was that
second time. He was like, man, you're not doing that
on purpose. But UK scores four runs in the second,
four runs in the fourth, and seven in the fifth
to win seventeen to five to beat the Louisville Cardinals.
Get a little revenge when Louisville beat them at Jim
Patterson Stadium earlier this year. Patrick Carrera, I mean, he
was a double short of the cycle, and if that
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game would have went on a little bit further, he
might have gotten it. Had a basis clearing triple also
at home run, a big win for the Kentucky Batcats.
You know what, do they say, it's hard not to
be romantic about baseball, And I find myself romanticizing about
baseball twice last night, Shannonck Can I tell you why?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, because I was listening to the radio call a
little bit. Darren was with the old ball coach Keith Madison.
And there's not another sport where you can be in
the middle of the game and you can be talking
about something completely different. And there are some great announcers
throughout MLB history that are really good at this, but
Shannon like the scores what you know, fifteen to four,
and Darren and Keith are talking about like the nineteen
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forties and you know, like how many people use quarters
and like a thing that you would wrap around your
belt that you could have your quarters and dimes and
pennies ready to go whenever you needed to use them.
We're in the middle of a game and these guys
are talking about that. But I absolutely love the storytelling
aspect of a baseball broadcast, and it's just different from
any other sport, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's slower.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You got time to you know, talk in between pitches,
and you see a lot of these guys. I don't know,
does Darren do the call all by himself, because a
lot of these guys that are baseball guys will just
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
A lot of road games you will buy himself. Yeah, yeah,
they'll just have to pontificate by himself in a booth.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But it's also like the only sport well, I guess
golf could be like this a little bit, but you know,
it's one of the few sports where you can have
a lot of downtime on the radio and it'd be okay. Yeah,
I know, it's one two pitch ball outside and you
can just have a you know, ten to fifteen seconds
of dead air and just let the abbance, you know,
sort of fill the air waves. And it's totally fine
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to do that. As a matter of fact, you should
do that if you're a play by play baseball guy.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well behind baseball here. The producers hate that because you
think they may have went to break and called to
go to break and you don't know, but they're actually
just setting the scene a little bit. So you're right,
it's like a two to one count. Let me get
back into my story about the last time I saw
a player hit the cycle, and it's timely because you're
watching a player almost hit for this cycle. So I
love that aspect about baseball. The other aspect that I
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felt myself loving about it yesterday just listening to the game,
was that the baseball game can can end early if
it's a blowout. Shannon, we need this more in sports.
I mean, how about the NBA game where Okay see
recently beat the Memphis Greasly by how many points? Fifty
one fifty one points. I'm gonna argue that game should
have ended at thirty five, j Jen, And you know
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what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You think that there should have been like a towel
that we could just throw out there on the court,
like you know, throwing the we're done, just quit. I
mean talk about making headlines.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't want to subjective quit. I want a hard
number that a team could get to where the game
just ends.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, so what should that be? Then?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You can't say thirty five or even around thirty because
well you're probably not old enough to remember. But Kentucky
was once down at LSU.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, was how many was that?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Thirty one?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think it was at halftime and came back and
won the game. So you know, if you were to
end that game, I mean it looked like the game
was over at halftime.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Then Kentucky comes back and wins.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So the baseball rule is you have to be up
ten by what is it, the sixth or seventh inning,
and I guess if that is completed by then, then
it can be an official game. There's some rules when
it comes to rain out as well. How many innings
have been played before you can count it an official game.
I don't know, Shannon, I kind of just loved it
that we didn't have to have the entire game of
a beatdown. They realize the game's over, we can end
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it a little bit early. It's another thing that I
don't think you see in any other sport. If you
can correct me if I'm wrong, give us call eight
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I want to talk a little bit more about the
Kentucky men's basketball roster because some reports are coming out
about what each kid is making in nil dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Shannon, Yeah, we believe it, though, Well that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We're pulling numbers out of thin air?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Or is there like I need to see a contract
or something that proves that before Well.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm going to give you the numbers that are being reported.
You tell me if you believe it or not. Shannon, No, and.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
There we go. We don't have to do the next segment.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
No, okay, Well we'll talk about that and I've got
some other crazy stories we'll talk about. It is the
show before the show, the ksrprehaw Yeah, all right, welcome back.
It is the case R pre show. Shannon getting calls
during the break Shannon. Yeah, people not know that you
do seven radio shows.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Don't call me between the hours of what seven and seven?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
At nine, seven and seven. Yeah, very very busy on
the text line a couple things. Five h two two
sixty five six six five six Kentucky was down thirty
one points with fifteen forty five remaining at LSU.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Isn't that insane?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Like sometimes I have to go back and watch that
on YouTube just to really convince myself that that happened.
If you watch that back, it is unbelievable. Talk about
an all time choke job.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It almost doesn't seem possible that a team could come
back from thirty points with fifteen minutes to go in
a game like Could that ever happen in today's world?
That the Patino team just pressed and pressed and pressed
and they were relentless. I don't know why more teams
don't play like that.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean a way a col team plays in the
final fifteen minutes. I'm sure somebody could come back from
thirty one points down. I'm sure a baseball team has
come back from more than ten runs down as well,
But they also have to cut off on ten runs
in at least college in high school. Ending the game,
one person also says Billy Kentucky is out of TP
in the locker room. I will add to that, Shannon,
(19:07):
do you think that they need a bidet in the
UK locker room now that they're out of TP?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, you're mister bidet.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I mean you've had what six months I guess to
use it. Yeah, what's your long term review? After six
months of.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Long term review?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
See, at first you're all excited about it, you know,
like sitting on a geyser. You're happy about it, and
now you say that you missed it. But think about
all the money you save though, right, Yeah, it's yeah,
the TP is not cheap.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh no, you're right about that. I'm probably saving some money.
But I really saved the money because I think we
got the cheapest bidet you could get online.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
If you're going to order a bidet, that's something you
want to get, like the Bentley of you don't want.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
To get your bedeta on a temu.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Okay, yeah, I get the Camri bidet here is shit
and like it can run a long time, but the
quality is it really there?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like an eighty eight Camray?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, like I mean till I die, but and the
abuse have taken. I mean, it's just really it's it's
cold water. I mean if I were to move into
like the hot water and get like under the sink
and do all that, I think it'd be real.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You don't want to scald yourself?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Is there no way to like you know, No, there's
get a little little happy medium, like.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
On the tmubidey. I mean, I think they're settings on
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Speaker 2 (21:13):
Slash bball.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
All three home teams winning last night in the NBA,
including the Lakers beating the Timberwolves to make their series
one in one. Indiana leads the Bucks two to oh,
and Thunder lead the Grizzlies two oh. We've got three
more games tonight, including Magic Celtics, Heat Calves, and Warriors Rockets. Shannon,
congrats to Georgia Amore. She threw out the first pitch
at the Washington National Scams yesterday. Why don't you guess
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where she lined up to do her first pitch throw.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm gonna say she threw from the rubber from the mound.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Incorrect in the grass in front of the mound. Okay,
did not see if she made it to the plate.
I only saw still photos. But as we had the
conversation yesterday, Shannon, thanks, professional athletes should always go from
the mound.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Come on, you're a professional athlete and can't throw up
baseball sixty feet athlete. No, I'm not saying she's She's
an amazing athlete, but I am sort of baffled by
you know, a professional athlete can't throw a ball sixty feet.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, you know. I think it's just about more not
wanting to embarrass yourself, right, dude, I mean, we know
you're not gonna go out there embarrass yourself, but no,
you get me out there throw him from the rubber.
I mean, we may have a clip that stands the
test of time instead of me going a few inches further.
But I'll get the pre show out at the level
bat I'd love to do. That's how the free Show started.
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We go way back. We'll take a break and be
right back here on the case our pre show. Welcome back.
It is the case our pre show, Billy and the Dude,
and you should hear the dude during the break telling
me if I ever joined him for a workout now,
I wouldn't be able to keep up. You can't rag
it about his class. Oh my gosh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You forget about it.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, I think if you came to work out
with me, you last about five minutes and then you
go probably spend the rest of the time in the sauna.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You know, you just sit there and sweat. I probably
would do that. It's been an extended period of time there.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But but you know I was telling you hard on it.
I'm now week thirteen. I've been going consistently since the
beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, look, as long as we can stop after every
exercise so I can look at my phone for two
and a half three minutes, I'll be fine. Telling me
to go from exercise to exercise.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Man, I go into the gym.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I've got a buddy of mine that is an OVW
wrestler who works out in the same gym as I do.
He's there when I get there, he's there when I leave.
He stays in the gym like three hours. I don't
have three hours. I'm in it out in forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
The gym rat.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, probably me and Cash Daniel are probably doing
different workouts as well. Oh yeah, as he gets ready
for his OVW journey Friday, Friday night first match, right,
that's right, maybe we can get him on before that.
I just try to reach out to Cash see if
we can make that happen, uh, Shannon. Before we get
to the phones, I wanted to talk a little bit
more about the Kentucky roster because I found it interesting
when Matt asked everybody for a starting lineup yesterday, everybody
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had a little bit of a different starting lineup. Whether
I think we all agree that Jalen Lowe is going
to be the point guard, but who you've got at
shooting guard, who you've got at small forward, who you've
got at the four and the five all seem to
be interchanging right now. Those roles I'm sure will define
themselves as the off season goes along as we get
closer to the regular season. But you know, if Otega
(24:18):
comes back, Shannon, that's a good problem to have that
it can be interchangeable at times, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean I think if Oway comes back, he's
definitely your two. There's no doubt about that, but I
mean if you needed to shift him around a little bit,
you could. I think they're going to be in good situation,
in a good shape, and a good roster with Oway
coming back, and with everything you've got so far. You've
got a lot of talent, a lot of a lot
of experience there as well, So I think they're ready
to go come in November.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I don't know what Aberdeen expects to do when it
comes to minutes played, Like he's coming as the sixth
man of Florida. Is he expecting to start? Is he
going to do that six man role?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Again?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That was by Alston yesterday, like how you're going to
leave the national championship team and be projected as a
starter then go to Kentucky and sit on the bench.
Not saying that's going to happen, but that's what makes
me think there's a very good chance Aberdeen is a
starter next year.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And how does it look when Jaden Quayton's gets healthy.
Mo dia Batte didn't come here to sit on the bench.
That guy has got to be starting at the four
I think. But you know, as good as yellowch like,
you know, it's like that's this is gonna be a
fun puzzle to solve over.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
The next few months. The one thing about it is
that we've saw last year. You know, Pope's not like
Cali Perry where he's going to play a guy thirty eight,
thirty nine forty minutes a game. So there's going to
be a balance where you're going to get guys who
are gonna get they're gonna get minutes. Now how much,
how many minutes, I don't know, but I think Pope
does a better job of balancing the minutes throughout the
roster than Calipari did, where he stuck to, you know,
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six guys and that was it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now, in the few years of NIL, we've seen some
really crazy numbers when it comes to players, you know,
in what they're getting in order to play for a
certain school. And while those numbers are still crazy, I
want to ask you, Shannon, if you believe or not
some of the reported numbers for Kentucky players and their
NIL dollars making.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I have not seen this, so I'm hearing this for
the first time right now.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Aaron Gershon of The Cat's Pause did some reporting and
yesterday he revealed that otega Oway and Jaden Quainton's are
combined at seven million dollars for their nil money.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Split equally or it just says combined, so it's.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Three and a half for each to reach I guess
at or over seven million dollars for the two per year. Yes,
modabate at two. Aberdeen is also at two. Remember we
saw Goodman say UK is looking to be spending the
most nil money in the country, even more than BYU Shannon.
(26:42):
There are rumors that this roster could be upwards of
twenty million dollars for nil No wait.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Now, I thought it was ten million last week. Now
we're saying twenty million.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Now, I think twenty is probably the inflated number that
we're trying to circle here. I think that is a
ton Could it add up to twenty? I think it
could if you got specific reporting about Guys Oway and
JQ being at seven. Do you Boughtay at two and
Aberdeen at two? That's eleven and that's only what four players, right,
So is it that far fetch that this roster could
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be a twenty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I guess not if you're going by those numbers, and
if those numbers are true. But again I have a
hard time believing in until I see it, like you know,
in front of me from somebody that's not just a
quote unquote source.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
But then again, I think about the people who are
writing these articles and go, what motivation do they have
just to make up numbers out of thin air? You know,
like right, They're not just creating numbers in their head
and going oh oh wait makes three and a half
million without knowing that. But how how do they know?
Have they seen contracts? Who's telling them?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, you know beat reporters are around it twenty four
to seven. I mean that is that is their.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Job understanding that are they in there signing the contracts
with the players?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I take it a look a little bit more I
gets truth than I would maybe just the random guy
saying that, you know, I guess you know, this is
a popular time for insiders, right, and people saying I
have information that you don't. This guy's going to transfer
here and not there. But over the years, I feel
like the reporting on the money has probably gotten better,
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not worse, even though it's you know, it is a
time of oddness. But I don't know, Shan twenty million
dollars seems like a lot. But when you hear specifics
like that from somebody like Aaron Gershaan, then maybe you
can get to that number.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Do you think we get to the point to where
there's salary caps like NIO caps on this.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yes, because you know, with the case settlement coming and
then legislation being levied by Congress, hopefully then there will
be a set amount of money that I think the
schools can give players. So yeah, they'll have to budget it.
But now a school could offer much more money in
their budget than another school, right, so there'll always be
a difference there. So I don't know, it's just it's
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just strange to put these things into perspective when these
guys make life changing money for a lot of times
to sit.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
On the bench.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, wouldn't you go to college, get a free degree,
get paid millions of dollars and not even have to play.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That I can go and average seven points a game
and then go sign a two million dollars nil contract
and then be set.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
For life if I save it the right way, right man,
If I were like you know, in middle school, I
would be training my butt off right now to be
really good in high school and go to a really
good college and make some really good money.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
A little Shannon of the dude a blue running around.
One of these days, you're going to force him to
be a lefty and then he's going to be forced
to play basketball and baseball to make that ni Oln money.
I think we have to do that. Let's go to
the phones.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
He's up first. It's going to John.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Good morning John.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Florida kids.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Came on the roster. I got worried that maybe one
of the coaching staff or some of the coaching staff
may have heard something that oh Way may not be
coming back. Would you think that be to worry about.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Or I don't think the addition of Aberdeen would signal
anything to do with Oway. The fact that Oway I
don't think officially entered the transfer portal means that he
will either be in the NBA or would be back
at Kentucky. So I think that's also another reassuring sign
that Oway is isn't really looking elsewhere. Besides getting to
some feedback from the NBA.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That's great, great, thanks.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, I haven't really seen always name on draft board.
Of course I haven't seen the latest draft board, but
the ones i've been looking at recently, I haven't even
seen his name on there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah yeah, And I don't you know when you can
make this kind of money in college, Shannon? Why go right?
Why don't be a day two pick or a second
round question? I mean, and go to the G league.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
For those of you who are tired of like one
and done's. I mean, this helps that, does it not?
I mean unless you are, you know, an absolute lock
for the lottery or.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Maybe first round, why would you go?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You know, if you're one of these players that's on
the cusp, but maybe you know, maybe you go first round,
maybe you go second round. But you're making you know,
millions of dollars in college? Why would you not stick
around for another year just to be sure? Go to college,
play another season, make your two and a half three
million dollars, whatever it may be. If you believe these
numbers and then improve your stock, make yourself a first rounder,
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go back, and then make more millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I guess I'll give you the one exception. You hate school,
you hate going to.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Class, and come on, do we really think these guys
are going to class? Come on, man, you really think
these doors they get? I mean, they made They made some,
but these guys aren't like in there every day like
every other Come on, you.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Don't think they make their eight am after they hit
the shot.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
No, it probably never has been like that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
That's not a an il thing, you know, It's just
the way I think it's always been. You know, like
when I played baseball Bellerman, we we did have to
go to school, we did have to go to class.
We're a big time enough to but we did get
some preferential treatment every now and then.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, well I remember in high school you got released
early to go to a well, I was on the
golf team. Sometimes you had to get released early to
go to a golf event, and you thought you were
the coolest kid around. So I'm sure you thought a
little bit of the same when you were getting preferential
treatment at Bellerman. John brought up the Florida transfer Denzel Aberdeen.
Uh found out on a post on KSR that Denzel's
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father can't watch games live. Sounds like that, John Jones, Yeah,
he will DVR it and watch it back later.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
At times, like when his son had a twenty point
performance in the SEC tournament, people were texting him and
he would find out what was happening. But he I
guess he gets too nervous. Shanning can't watch it live?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Hm, well, I.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Guess you know, he and Matt could go into some
random hotel lobby and watch it on TV, but that
would be live, So.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I guess that wouldn't work.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Worse than that, not only could he not watch it
in person live, he can't watch it on TV live.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I don't know, man, I got you know that.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I would think that would be a proud moment if
you got your son playing college ball and you can't
watch him.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think it's even weirder for Matt to do it
when he doesn't have his son involved compared to when
your son is involved. I mean, I can understand if
you are living with the ups and downs if your
son's out there. But yeah, Matt's just doing a radio
show about the game. I mean, like, why.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Can't he watch Oh, you know it means a lot
to him, But well, that's a completely other that's a
completely different conversation.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I think I was gonna say, I think it's stranger
to drive ten hours and then not watch the game.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, and then and then go to the lobby of
that hotel.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
They have lobbies in Lexington.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, I'm with you. Let's take another call. Then we'll
take a break.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
There, all right, John Short, Hey Joe, Johnny, what's up, American?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You're a great American. How about those Batcats last night?
What a win?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yes, I had a seventeen wins.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I was a seventeen that's right. I think you could
have thrown better than those lobal pictures last night, Johnny.
They couldn't throw it over the plate. They were they
were walking our guys, they were hitting them in the head,
they were all over the place.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I know it's a good win. And we played softball
last night too, just just baseball.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Uh. You know, I'm not sure, John, I know they
didn't have a good weekend series recently, so I'm not
sure if they played last night, you're supposed to give
us those scores though, if.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I don't hear too much on television like the softball
that much.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yes, you get to check your local listings, as they say,
to see when when the games are and when they're playing.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Uh, John, they played on and lost to South Carolina.
So they played tonight against E k U in Richmond
at six pm.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Can we get John maybe one of those magnetic schedules
to put on his refrigerator. That way he'll know exactly
when they play and what station they'll be on.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We need to get John one of those. If anybody's listening,
what do.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
You think, John, that'd be good winning.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You can just you can just go right to your
refrigerator and you know, get your plane plain Hamburger out
that you out of the refrigerator and you can look
and see what they play.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, and it's like you but Perry going to the
transfer port. He'd have to come back.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah. I think we all wanted to come back John,
but he wanted to play a little more. And with
all the talent on Kentucky's roster, I think he was
gonna be hurting for playing time.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
And we still have another Kentucky player. We still have
Sweet Mountain Angel Baby, Mountain Mamba, Trent Noah is still
that's right. Yeah, So whis which name do you like
better of John? For for Trent Noah? Do you like
Mountain Mamba or Sweet Mountain Angel Baby?
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Doesn't matter which one?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Are you gonna call him? Are you gonna call him
Sweet Mountain Angel Baby?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I wouldn't call him man, would I would call him Mount's.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Gonna call it Trent. Noah, Okay, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
It's right, and you just have a good easter, and.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah we did. John Hope about you, John, did you have.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
A good one? I did take a good papers? Say?
Is that was two days ago?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It was because of the two.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Gonna take the University of Battle Lakes in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh, little history, lesson here, I'll of the day of
the Boston Marathon. I think, John, that's right, all.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Right, Johnny, good to here. You're a great American.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Anytime you want to run a marathon, John will do it.
Did you say they had like robots trying to run
the marathon with.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I saw a headline about this. I didn't read it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I don't think it went too well for the robots.
So they're not quite ready to take over the world
just yet. They can't keep up with humans in the
Boston Marathon.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, good good. I have been using AI more, Shannon.
I asked AI the other day what it thought about
ksr's Billy Rutledge.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Look at you're so vain.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
It is not great that I wish I did not
do it. Now what did it say, Well, I'm gonna
have to do it again to pull it up because
it's not on Deep Seek anymore. That's the Chinese version
of the chat GPT. Okay, but they were like, if
you're looking for in depth analysis, maybe look elsewhere. We
don't know if Billy is polarizing with his hot takes
and his loyal defense of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is that what it says? Yeah, that's what that was
level defense of Kentucky. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
It got it a little wrong, you know, but Shannon
did get things many things right, as in being divisive
and probably turn the podcast off. If you're looking for
the in depth analysis of maybe somebody like Jack gibbonskill,
well maybe we should do Shannon the dude during the break?
What is you?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Dude? You can do it if you want to. I'm
not getting on that Chinese AI stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh please. We've already got our facial profile and everything mine.
All right, we'll take a break. We'll be back here
on the Case. I appreciate all right, welcome back. It's
our final segment here on Wednesday edition of The Case,
our pre show. We've got a couple of people online
and I'm gonna go quick so we can get to
some of them, but deep seek the Chinese version of
(37:43):
chat GPT. I don't think they really know who Shannon
the Dude is.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Can I just read verbatim what it thinks Shannon the Dude?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, I'm curious to see what AI I thinks I am.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Shannon the Dude is a well known Louisville radio personality,
most notably associated with hip hop and R and B
stations in the area.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well, they got half of it, right, I guess I
am in a noval. I'm on the radio.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I don't play hip hop, though it's been active for years,
possibly decades in the Louisville radio market, known for supporting
Louisville and Southern rap artists, playing underground tracks, and hosting
mixed shows. So I don't get invited to mixed shows either.
Not just the Christmas party. Oh, let's see, it's cool.
It's a cool nod to Louisville's hip hop history that
(38:25):
Shannon is on Kentucky Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Shannon's role as a long time DJ makes him a
cultural touchstone, similar to how DJ's like Big Boy LA
or Greg Street Atl are revered in their cities we do.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
We need a little work on AI. Like, it's only
about fifty percent, right. I just think that's what's gonna
be taking your job one day that.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let it work out. The kinks.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of kinks in there.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But wow, the neutral icon for hip hop and R
and B in the city of Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Shannon, I think you could take, you know, like the
music genre and flip that to rock roll and all
of that would be completely accurate, you know, a rock and.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Roll icon, legendary voice.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
All right, now we're getting okay, I almost got it right,
except for the hip hop.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Still now, now, now it sounds like they was very,
very wrong. Let's go to the phones though, Shannon. He's
up next.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Laura Hey, Laura, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Hey guys? How are you guys doing great?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And great?
Speaker 5 (39:23):
So? I know that we've been talking a lot about
Nico and the Tennessee situation. But have you seen the
latest where Nico's brother Madden just entered the transfer portal
at Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, we just talked about that yesterday. I was I
saw that and I was questioning whether or not that
was true or not because he left UCLA right went
to Arkansas. Now going back to UCLA to play quarterback.
I guess behind his brother. I don't really understand the
whole thing.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yes, as if we thought that this family could not
get any now they're doing like a two for one deal.
But the latest is is that Arkansas is now apparently
threatening to sue him for breach of contract and for
the Nile money. So I was just hoping to hear
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Okay, thanks for the caller, Yes, thanks for Laurie.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
You're you are exactly right. The Arkansas A d came
out and say that he supports the NIL Collective pursuing
legal action against athletes that break any legally binding NIL contracts.
So I think he is. I guess assuming that the
I I'm Alieva kid at Arkansas did break a contract
Shannon by leaving this is this could get ugly, don't
(40:38):
you think?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah? I think it already has.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
But what what kind of money do you think that
he is getting paid by UCLA to come play back
up quarterback to his brother.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, that's the thing. Nico probably might get a mill
or two, but what is his brother gonna get? Maybe
it was a package deal man.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
But if I'm a little brother and I'm not gonna
bring dad or brother along, if I'm not, if I'm
little and I'm not getting paid the same as what
big brother is, and maybe he is, I don't know.
I haven't seen the numbers. I don't know the contract
situation on it. But what you want to go out
and make a name for yourself somewhere you think, I mean, well,
who's to say he could make more than Nico?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
But the logical reasoning with this family's gone out the
window a long time ago. I mean, this has been
a disaster. They're gonna make a lot less money than
what they could have lacked next year. But I don't know.
I don't think this is going to be much of
a trend. This could be the outlier, and let's at
least hope for that. Shannon tell me about draftings for.
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Matt Ryan and Drew Our next on KSR Live from
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is brought to you by ital X Fine Italian Dining
in Lexington, open for lunch Wednesday through Sunday and also
a great dinner spot if you're in the city. Good morning, Shannon,
It's good to see you, buddy. What's up very Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Got my silk socks on? Ready to go for another
pre show this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Stop it? Why is that my first topic on my
list that I looked up bamboo socks yesterday after the show, Shannon,
come on, Pam read in my mind.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Uh, you know, I bought a bamboo shirt before in
the past, and you know, it looked really cool. It
looked good enough to sell me on it. But then
when I got it and rent it through the laundry
recycle a few times. It got all these little bitty
like little fur balls on them, you know that pop
up when you do the laundry.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, I know, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, So I had to throw the shirt away.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So my thoughts on bamboo. I don't have bamboo socks,
but shirts. It's a no go for me because of
my one experience with that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But bamboo sheets, Oh yeah, we're talking.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Let me ring the bell for you here.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I've got some bamboo sheets. Those are good. I've got them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes. The fiance always hooks us up with the best mattresses,
the best pillows, and she came home one day with
some bamboo sheets. Changed our lives. Shannon, So, I wanted
to start the show with saying what can't bamboo do?
But apparently you can't run it through the dryer too
many times or you'll get the fuzzy things. Yeah a shirt, yeah,
Shannon said, But you know, bamboo is a substitute for
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wood when you're building things. It's something that you can eat.
It's also the fastest growing plant on Earth. It can
grow up to three feet a day, so it's incredible.
All the things that you can do with bamboo. Did
not know that there was a market for socks out there,
but it sounds like I think a lot of people
in Kentucky learned that yesterday when Matt talked about his
trip to Amsterdam.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, three feet a day? Is that right? Like bamboo,
I knew it grew quickly, but.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Feet a day?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Or it's possible to get up to three feet a day.
Kind of varies.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So if I put some bamboo in my backyard, like
within two days, I've got six feet of bamboo.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Neighbors aren't going to be seen if you post it
on the fence.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, don't worry about.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm gonna chop it down and mix socks out of it.
So there's a lot of purposes you can use it for.
But it sounds like we need to get on the
bamboo sock train. Today is Wednesday, April twenty third, and
the transfer portal is closed. It's closed, folks. You can
no longer enter the portal. Now. There's going to be
plenty of movement still in the coming days and weeks,
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but Shannon, finally the portal has closed. It seemed like
a very long two and a half three week period,
and we got some more movement in it yesterday that
we'll talk about in just a bit. But we just
live in crazy times, do we not. It's just this
transfer portal thing is odd, and we finally see it
to a close today, even though we'll still see some
movement in the coming days.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That is college sports the way it is now, and
I think for the foreseeable future, it's just going to
be every off season dealing with literally thousands of players
jumping in the transfer portal. And you know, like I
was one that was always for the transfer portal. I've
always said, if college coaches can come and go as
they please, players should be allowed to do the same thing.
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But I'll tell you this nil situation on top of
it just throws in an all new mix. You know,
not only are players leaving because maybe they're unhappy, but
they're also leaving because they can get more money.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And you know, it's the free market. It's the way
of the world.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, if you and I want to leave and
go get a better job somewhere with more money, you're
free to do it. So that's sort of what college
sports has become.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, but I'm not really going to get paid money
to do one hour of work per day, Shannon, I
mean it might be tough for Billy Arschae.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You got it made, You got it made.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We're not going to get into that. But if with
the trans portal closing today, if you were to look
at most websites official rankings, Kentucky has get ready for
this in the number one transfer portal class number one boom.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How about that, man?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, I mean you look at all the experience that
they've brought in. A guy from a national championship team,
has that pedigree to go along with him, and another
transfer from Alabama, very good Alabama team. You get throw
on some of these mid major players as well. I mean,
it worked out pretty well for Mark Pope in one season,
and that was throwing it all together very quickly. He
had an entire recruiting cycle to put this team together,
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and you know, I think we should all be really
excited about what's ahead for next season.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Now, teams will still sign players, so that is not
the final ranking, but as of right now, if you
were to looking on three starts, Kentucky is number one.
There were still some movement in the final day of
the transfer portal yesterday Boogie Fland entered it from Arkansas.
Walker Horn and Grant Darbyshire both have entered the portal
show I know to see them go, but also Travis Perry,
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the eleventh hour addition to the Transfer portal, will Live,
will be leaving Kentucky. Played in thirty one games, averaged
two point seven points per game in nine point seven minutes,
but he was thrusted into a starting role at times,
started three straight games during SEC play. Also started in
the SEC Tournament when Kentucky took on Bama. Obviously a
Kentucky kid in the all time scoring record holder in
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the state of Kentucky for high school. But Shannon, what
were your thoughts when you heard the news that Travis
Perry would be leaving the Cats last night?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Slightly surprised, not like, you know, over the top shocked,
but you know, this is a Kentucky kid who knows
what it's who knows what it means to put on
that Kentucky jersey. And I guess he just saw the
writing on the wall, you know, with the guards that
Pope has brought in through the Transfer portal, looked at
it and said, well, my minutes will probably be really limited.
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But you know, again it comes down to I just
I see so many times players just entering the transfer portal.
It's the easy way out. I don't know, like whatever
came to, you know, whatever happened to fighting for your
spot on the team, you know, I don't know. Maybe
he just feels like he wants to go somewhere. Obviously
he does. He feels like he wants to go somewhere else.
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I just don't know where that somewhere else is going
to be where he's going to get more playing time
unless he takes a big step down to maybe like
a mid major type of school.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean, it's tough being a freshman in college athletics
trying to play at a blue blood nowadays, because you
can so much easier over recruit these guys, right, I mean,
you can bring in a guy with national championship experience,
was the sixth man on the national title winning Florida Gators,
and you're gonna want to play him a little bit
more than a sophomore Travis Perry who was still adjusting
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to the physicality of the game and still learning what
he is good at, even though we do know he
can shoot that damn ball, My funky rooster brethren is
leaving me. Shannon, No, hopefully he doesn't go far. I
think my first thought when he went to the portal
was come on down to the Hilltoppers.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
All the Hilltoppers.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I stared, Kentucky, come on down to Bowling Green. It's
not too far.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That could.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I don't know what Western Kentucky Basketball's roster looks like,
but I could definitely see them making a spot for
Travis pier.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
We got a spot for him. We got a spot,
no matter what. Okay, no, no matter what. I mean,
this is the all time leave scorer. Shannon gets some
respect on TP's name. Now, I've seen a lot of
people say this is a bad move by Mark Pope
to force out Travis Perry. I don't think that was
the case. Some reporting by Jack Pilgrim on Kezar plus
seem to believe that this was a surprise too many
on the Kentucky coaching staff. They wanted to go into
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the season with the role that they had Travis Perry
ready to fill. But like you said, Shannon, I kind
of get it. I mean, despite your love for a university,
if you see the the quote writing on the wall
that you're gonna get maybe two three minutes of playing
time unless you have a ton of injuries to the
guard spot. Why not go play somewhere else and make
that money and do what you wanted to do at
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that level. I get what you're saying. You know, the
kids don't stay and they're not going to fight for
a spot anymore. But in today's landscape, I can't blame
a kid for making this kind of decision, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, if you look at last season, though, did
we really expect Travis Perry to play at all?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I know, I know, you know, injuries factored in, No injuries.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Factored in, and you know, I think he took advantage
of those of those minutes that he had. But you know,
let's not act like we're going to go through an
entire season without one injury. I mean, is there ever
a season that goes by where somebody doesn't get banged
up a little bit to the point to where you
have to go next.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Man up on the bench. Never.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I mean, you're gonna have to have depth. Yeah, that's important.
But Kentucky's got like thirteen guys that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Can play now, Shannon, Yeah, So why don't you just
work on your game and improve your game to the
point to where you're not the thirteenth man off the bench.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know, you're a guy that's fighting for playing time.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But now it's like you said, well, it doesn't look
like I'm going to get any minutes. Let me just
go over here instead. It's too easy.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I would think that the nil money, though, would be
better at Kentucky than anywhere else. I mean, you're a
Kentucky guy. You know, you got this in your blood.
And now let's say you go transfer to I don't know,
I have no idea. Let's just throw a name out there, Dayton,
Okay or Xavier. You're not gonna get the Nile money
there that you would get here as a Kentucky guy.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So no, But these guys are competitors, right, and I
mean to a degree. I think you know, if you
ask the man to man when the lights aren't on,
they want to play right. The money's nice, and that's
obviously a sticking point with a lot of people, but
there's also a reason why people are like, how many
starting minutes are you gonna give me? Because these guys
want to go to a place where they can play now.
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You know, I think we could see a trend out
of this where freshmen probably start going to mid majors
because they're not going to play at the Saint John's right,
They're not going to just start at Kentucky unless you
are a consensus top five pick in the NBA draft.
So maybe that does help schools like Eastern and Western
and maybe even a Bellerman get some talent that they
wouldn't in the past. Hell, maybe Travis comes back, Shannon,
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maybe he goes to Western for a couple of years
and there's a spot at Kentucky when he's a.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Little bit better to never know, it could always happen.
That's why you never burn a bridge.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
If you're a coach or a recruiter, you know, you
see Vince Merrow, Vince you.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Know, go out, go out and get guys.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And you know always stays in contact with him. You're
always constantly recruiting that. You know, the recruiting season never ends.
It's it's round the clock. Now three are sixty five
days a year, So you know, there's always a chance
he could come back. But you know, wherever he goes,
best of luck to him. But I don't know man
for a Kentucky guy playing at the University of Kentucky.
I don't see how it gets any better than that.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So, now, what was your favorite Travis Perry moment of
the season. I'll give you a couple. I think Trent
Noah had a no look past to Perry in the
corner who hit a big three at at one time.
You know, he accidentally shaved off his mustache when he
was trying to touch it up a little bit, and
then he I think he had a pretty good game
the next day. You know, probably not many moments, but
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what are you going to remember with TP in the
Blue and White Show.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I don't know that there's like one specific moment. I think,
you know, just to see and in general of him,
like we said earlier, you know, kind of being thrown
into the spotlight and yeah, here you go, kid, let's
see what you got. I think he I can't remember
which games for me, it all runs together, but I
think he had one game where he knocked down to
two or three threes if I'm not mistaken. You know,
I think he did a really good job given the circumstances.
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And you know, it's a guy that I hate to
see him go. But you know, I also understand that
he's got to do what he feels like.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is best for him.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't know if it's a favorite moment, but there
was a time where he wasn't getting any calls, and
I believe Mark Sears would go down and throw his
head back and get every single call. And Jack Gibbons
is on the radio saying, man, he's he's not old
enough to get that call. You got to earn some
respect in the SEC to get that guy, Shandon, I
thought you were supposed to call the game the same
way for everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, come on, if
it's a foul, it's a foul. It shouldn't matter what
your age is or how long you've been in the league.
And you see that you see some favorable calls. I
think in the NBA, you know, with a guy like
Lebron who gets some fair calls. But right you know,
it should be if it's a foul, it's a foul.
It doesn't matter who it is or what the name.
When the back of the jersey says or the front
of the jersey, it fouls a foul. But you know,
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in reality, some of these guys probably do get favorable
calls just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And I'm not going to act like
the screaming at the referee for the entire game doesn't
have an effect either, Shannon. I mean, after I get
berated for thirty eight minutes, I might make a call
against your team. That may jeopardize my integrity, Shannon, But
I feel like that's just human nature. Yeah, and that's
the beauty of sports. A lot of times, that's the
beauty of baseball. And how beautiful was that baseball last night, Shannon,
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as the Cats beat Louisville seventeen to five and run
ruled them.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, beautiful for Kentucky, ugly for Louisville. Eleven walks, six
hit batsman.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Is that right? Eleven and six for walks and hit batters.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, how do we have six guys get hit
by a pitch and not have some sort of brawl.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You think, just on paper rivalry game that should start it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But I was watching a Major League baseball game the
other night. Guy didn't even hit the person. He had
two pitches that came in really close, but they threw
the guy out.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Didn't even hit the guy, what the pitcher They.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Threw the pitcher out? Yes, I guess it was that
second time. He was like, man, you're not doing that
on purpose. But UK scores four runs in the second,
four runs in the fourth, and seven in the fifth
to win seventeen to five to beat the Louisville Cardinals.
Get a little revenge when Louisville beat them at Jim
Patterson Stadium earlier this year. Patrick Carrera, I mean, he
was a double short of the cycle, and if that
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game would have went on a little bit further, he
might have gotten it. Had a basis clearing triple also
at home run, a big win for the Kentucky Batcats.
You know what, do they say, it's hard not to
be romantic about baseball, And I find myself romanticizing about
baseball twice last night, Shannonck Can I tell you why?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, because I was listening to the radio call a
little bit. Darren was with the old ball coach Keith Madison.
And there's not another sport where you can be in
the middle of the game and you can be talking
about something completely different. And there are some great announcers
throughout MLB history that are really good at this, but
Shannon like the scores what you know, fifteen to four,
and Darren and Keith are talking about like the nineteen
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forties and you know, like how many people use quarters
and like a thing that you would wrap around your
belt that you could have your quarters and dimes and
pennies ready to go whenever you needed to use them.
We're in the middle of a game and these guys
are talking about that. But I absolutely love the storytelling
aspect of a baseball broadcast, and it's just different from
any other sport, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's slower.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You got time to you know, talk in between pitches,
and you see a lot of these guys. I don't know,
does Darren do the call all by himself, because a
lot of these guys that are baseball guys will just
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
A lot of road games you will buy himself. Yeah, yeah,
they'll just have to pontificate by himself in a booth.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But it's also like the only sport well, I guess
golf could be like this a little bit, but you know,
it's one of the few sports where you can have
a lot of downtime on the radio and it'd be okay. Yeah,
I know, it's one two pitch ball outside and you
can just have a you know, ten to fifteen seconds
of dead air and just let the abbance, you know,
sort of fill the air waves. And it's totally fine
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to do that. As a matter of fact, you should
do that if you're a play by play baseball guy.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well behind baseball here. The producers hate that because you
think they may have went to break and called to
go to break and you don't know, but they're actually
just setting the scene a little bit. So you're right,
it's like a two to one count. Let me get
back into my story about the last time I saw
a player hit the cycle, and it's timely because you're
watching a player almost hit for this cycle. So I
love that aspect about baseball. The other aspect that I
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felt myself loving about it yesterday just listening to the game,
was that the baseball game can can end early if
it's a blowout. Shannon, we need this more in sports.
I mean, how about the NBA game where Okay see
recently beat the Memphis Greasly by how many points? Fifty
one fifty one points. I'm gonna argue that game should
have ended at thirty five, j Jen, And you know
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what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You think that there should have been like a towel
that we could just throw out there on the court,
like you know, throwing the we're done, just quit. I
mean talk about making headlines.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't want to subjective quit. I want a hard
number that a team could get to where the game
just ends.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, so what should that be? Then?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You can't say thirty five or even around thirty because
well you're probably not old enough to remember. But Kentucky
was once down at LSU.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, was how many was that?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Thirty one?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think it was at halftime and came back and
won the game. So you know, if you were to
end that game, I mean it looked like the game
was over at halftime.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Then Kentucky comes back and wins.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So the baseball rule is you have to be up
ten by what is it, the sixth or seventh inning,
and I guess if that is completed by then, then
it can be an official game. There's some rules when
it comes to rain out as well. How many innings
have been played before you can count it an official game.
I don't know, Shannon, I kind of just loved it
that we didn't have to have the entire game of
a beatdown. They realize the game's over, we can end
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it a little bit early. It's another thing that I
don't think you see in any other sport. If you
can correct me if I'm wrong, give us call eight
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at five o two two six five six six five six.
I want to talk a little bit more about the
Kentucky men's basketball roster because some reports are coming out
about what each kid is making in nil dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Shannon, Yeah, we believe it, though, Well that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We're pulling numbers out of thin air?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Or is there like I need to see a contract
or something that proves that before Well.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm going to give you the numbers that are being reported.
You tell me if you believe it or not. Shannon, No, and.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
There we go. We don't have to do the next segment.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
No, okay, Well we'll talk about that and I've got
some other crazy stories we'll talk about. It is the
show before the show, the ksrprehaw Yeah, all right, welcome back.
It is the case R pre show. Shannon getting calls
during the break Shannon. Yeah, people not know that you
do seven radio shows.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Don't call me between the hours of what seven and seven?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
At nine, seven and seven. Yeah, very very busy on
the text line a couple things. Five h two two
sixty five six six five six Kentucky was down thirty
one points with fifteen forty five remaining at LSU.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Isn't that insane?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Like sometimes I have to go back and watch that
on YouTube just to really convince myself that that happened.
If you watch that back, it is unbelievable. Talk about
an all time choke job.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It almost doesn't seem possible that a team could come
back from thirty points with fifteen minutes to go in
a game like Could that ever happen in today's world?
That the Patino team just pressed and pressed and pressed
and they were relentless. I don't know why more teams
don't play like that.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean a way a col team plays in the
final fifteen minutes. I'm sure somebody could come back from
thirty one points down. I'm sure a baseball team has
come back from more than ten runs down as well,
But they also have to cut off on ten runs
in at least college in high school. Ending the game,
one person also says Billy Kentucky is out of TP
in the locker room. I will add to that, Shannon,
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do you think that they need a bidet in the
UK locker room now that they're out of TP?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, you're mister bidet.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I mean you've had what six months I guess to
use it. Yeah, what's your long term review? After six
months of.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Long term review?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
See, at first you're all excited about it, you know,
like sitting on a geyser. You're happy about it, and
now you say that you missed it. But think about
all the money you save though, right, Yeah, it's yeah,
the TP is not cheap.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh no, you're right about that. I'm probably saving some money.
But I really saved the money because I think we
got the cheapest bidet you could get online.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
If you're going to order a bidet, that's something you
want to get, like the Bentley of you don't want.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
To get your bedeta on a temu.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Okay, yeah, I get the Camri bidet here is shit
and like it can run a long time, but the
quality is it really there?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like an eighty eight Camray?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, like I mean till I die, but and the
abuse have taken. I mean, it's just really it's it's
cold water. I mean if I were to move into
like the hot water and get like under the sink
and do all that, I think it'd be real.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You don't want to scald yourself?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Is there no way to like you know, No, there's
get a little little happy medium, like.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
On the tmubidey. I mean, I think they're settings on
the nicer ones, but not this one. Shannon. We've got
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Speaker 1 (21:15):
All three home teams winning last night in the NBA,
including the Lakers beating the Timberwolves to make their series
one in one. Indiana leads the Bucks two to oh,
and Thunder lead the Grizzlies two oh. We've got three
more games tonight, including Magic Celtics, Heat Calves, and Warriors Rockets. Shannon,
congrats to Georgia Amore. She threw out the first pitch
at the Washington National Scams yesterday. Why don't you guess
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where she lined up to do her first pitch throw.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm gonna say she threw from the rubber from the mound.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Incorrect in the grass in front of the mound. Okay,
did not see if she made it to the plate.
I only saw still photos. But as we had the
conversation yesterday, Shannon, thanks, professional athletes should always go from
the mound.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Come on, you're a professional athlete and can't throw up
baseball sixty feet athlete. No, I'm not saying she's She's
an amazing athlete, but I am sort of baffled by
you know, a professional athlete can't throw a ball sixty feet.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, you know. I think it's just about more not
wanting to embarrass yourself, right, dude, I mean, we know
you're not gonna go out there embarrass yourself, but no,
you get me out there throw him from the rubber.
I mean, we may have a clip that stands the
test of time instead of me going a few inches further.
But I'll get the pre show out at the level
bat I'd love to do. That's how the free Show started.
(22:28):
We go way back. We'll take a break and be
right back here on the case our pre show. Welcome back.
It is the case our pre show, Billy and the Dude,
and you should hear the dude during the break telling
me if I ever joined him for a workout now,
I wouldn't be able to keep up. You can't rag
it about his class. Oh my gosh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You forget about it.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, I think if you came to work out
with me, you last about five minutes and then you
go probably spend the rest of the time in the sauna.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You know, you just sit there and sweat. I probably
would do that. It's been an extended period of time there.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But but you know I was telling you hard on it.
I'm now week thirteen. I've been going consistently since the
beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, look, as long as we can stop after every
exercise so I can look at my phone for two
and a half three minutes, I'll be fine. Telling me
to go from exercise to exercise.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Man, I go into the gym.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I've got a buddy of mine that is an OVW
wrestler who works out in the same gym as I do.
He's there when I get there, he's there when I leave.
He stays in the gym like three hours. I don't
have three hours. I'm in it out in forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
The gym rat.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, probably me and Cash Daniel are probably doing
different workouts as well. Oh yeah, as he gets ready
for his OVW journey Friday, Friday night first match, right,
that's right, maybe we can get him on before that.
I just try to reach out to Cash see if
we can make that happen, uh, Shannon. Before we get
to the phones, I wanted to talk a little bit
more about the Kentucky roster because I found it interesting
when Matt asked everybody for a starting lineup yesterday, everybody
(23:56):
had a little bit of a different starting lineup. Whether
I think we all agree that Jalen Lowe is going
to be the point guard, but who you've got at
shooting guard, who you've got at small forward, who you've
got at the four and the five all seem to
be interchanging right now. Those roles I'm sure will define
themselves as the off season goes along as we get
closer to the regular season. But you know, if Otega
(24:18):
comes back, Shannon, that's a good problem to have that
it can be interchangeable at times, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean I think if Oway comes back, he's
definitely your two. There's no doubt about that, but I
mean if you needed to shift him around a little bit,
you could. I think they're going to be in good situation,
in a good shape, and a good roster with Oway
coming back, and with everything you've got so far. You've
got a lot of talent, a lot of a lot
of experience there as well, So I think they're ready
to go come in November.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I don't know what Aberdeen expects to do when it
comes to minutes played, Like he's coming as the sixth
man of Florida. Is he expecting to start? Is he
going to do that six man role?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Again?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That was by Alston yesterday, like how you're going to
leave the national championship team and be projected as a
starter then go to Kentucky and sit on the bench.
Not saying that's going to happen, but that's what makes
me think there's a very good chance Aberdeen is a
starter next year.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And how does it look when Jaden Quayton's gets healthy.
Mo dia Batte didn't come here to sit on the bench.
That guy has got to be starting at the four
I think. But you know, as good as yellowch like,
you know, it's like that's this is gonna be a
fun puzzle to solve over.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
The next few months. The one thing about it is
that we've saw last year. You know, Pope's not like
Cali Perry where he's going to play a guy thirty eight,
thirty nine forty minutes a game. So there's going to
be a balance where you're going to get guys who
are gonna get they're gonna get minutes. Now how much,
how many minutes, I don't know, but I think Pope
does a better job of balancing the minutes throughout the
roster than Calipari did, where he stuck to, you know,
(25:42):
six guys and that was it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now, in the few years of NIL, we've seen some
really crazy numbers when it comes to players, you know,
in what they're getting in order to play for a
certain school. And while those numbers are still crazy, I
want to ask you, Shannon, if you believe or not
some of the reported numbers for Kentucky players and their
NIL dollars making.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I have not seen this, so I'm hearing this for
the first time right now.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Aaron Gershon of The Cat's Pause did some reporting and
yesterday he revealed that otega Oway and Jaden Quainton's are
combined at seven million dollars for their nil money.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Split equally or it just says combined, so it's.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Three and a half for each to reach I guess
at or over seven million dollars for the two per year. Yes,
modabate at two. Aberdeen is also at two. Remember we
saw Goodman say UK is looking to be spending the
most nil money in the country, even more than BYU Shannon.
(26:42):
There are rumors that this roster could be upwards of
twenty million dollars for nil No wait.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Now, I thought it was ten million last week. Now
we're saying twenty million.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Now, I think twenty is probably the inflated number that
we're trying to circle here. I think that is a
ton Could it add up to twenty? I think it
could if you got specific reporting about Guys Oway and
JQ being at seven. Do you Boughtay at two and
Aberdeen at two? That's eleven and that's only what four players, right,
So is it that far fetch that this roster could
(27:14):
be a twenty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I guess not if you're going by those numbers, and
if those numbers are true. But again I have a
hard time believing in until I see it, like you know,
in front of me from somebody that's not just a
quote unquote source.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
But then again, I think about the people who are
writing these articles and go, what motivation do they have
just to make up numbers out of thin air? You know,
like right, They're not just creating numbers in their head
and going oh oh wait makes three and a half
million without knowing that. But how how do they know?
Have they seen contracts? Who's telling them?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, you know beat reporters are around it twenty four
to seven. I mean that is that is their.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Job understanding that are they in there signing the contracts
with the players?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I take it a look a little bit more I
gets truth than I would maybe just the random guy
saying that, you know, I guess you know, this is
a popular time for insiders, right, and people saying I
have information that you don't. This guy's going to transfer
here and not there. But over the years, I feel
like the reporting on the money has probably gotten better,
(28:17):
not worse, even though it's you know, it is a
time of oddness. But I don't know, Shan twenty million
dollars seems like a lot. But when you hear specifics
like that from somebody like Aaron Gershaan, then maybe you
can get to that number.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Do you think we get to the point to where
there's salary caps like NIO caps on this.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yes, because you know, with the case settlement coming and
then legislation being levied by Congress, hopefully then there will
be a set amount of money that I think the
schools can give players. So yeah, they'll have to budget it.
But now a school could offer much more money in
their budget than another school, right, so there'll always be
a difference there. So I don't know, it's just it's
(28:57):
just strange to put these things into perspective when these
guys make life changing money for a lot of times
to sit.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
On the bench.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, wouldn't you go to college, get a free degree,
get paid millions of dollars and not even have to play.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That I can go and average seven points a game
and then go sign a two million dollars nil contract
and then be set.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
For life if I save it the right way, right man,
If I were like you know, in middle school, I
would be training my butt off right now to be
really good in high school and go to a really
good college and make some really good money.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
A little Shannon of the dude a blue running around.
One of these days, you're going to force him to
be a lefty and then he's going to be forced
to play basketball and baseball to make that ni Oln money.
I think we have to do that. Let's go to
the phones.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
He's up first. It's going to John.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Good morning John.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Florida kids.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Came on the roster. I got worried that maybe one
of the coaching staff or some of the coaching staff
may have heard something that oh Way may not be
coming back. Would you think that be to worry about.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Or I don't think the addition of Aberdeen would signal
anything to do with Oway. The fact that Oway I
don't think officially entered the transfer portal means that he
will either be in the NBA or would be back
at Kentucky. So I think that's also another reassuring sign
that Oway is isn't really looking elsewhere. Besides getting to
some feedback from the NBA.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That's great, great, thanks.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, I haven't really seen always name on draft board.
Of course I haven't seen the latest draft board, but
the ones i've been looking at recently, I haven't even
seen his name on there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah yeah, And I don't you know when you can
make this kind of money in college, Shannon? Why go right?
Why don't be a day two pick or a second
round question? I mean, and go to the G league.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
For those of you who are tired of like one
and done's. I mean, this helps that, does it not?
I mean unless you are, you know, an absolute lock
for the lottery or.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Maybe first round, why would you go?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You know, if you're one of these players that's on
the cusp, but maybe you know, maybe you go first round,
maybe you go second round. But you're making you know,
millions of dollars in college? Why would you not stick
around for another year just to be sure? Go to college,
play another season, make your two and a half three
million dollars, whatever it may be. If you believe these
numbers and then improve your stock, make yourself a first rounder,
(31:16):
go back, and then make more millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I guess I'll give you the one exception. You hate school,
you hate going to.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Class, and come on, do we really think these guys
are going to class? Come on, man, you really think
these doors they get? I mean, they made They made some,
but these guys aren't like in there every day like
every other Come on, you.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Don't think they make their eight am after they hit
the shot.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
No, it probably never has been like that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
That's not a an il thing, you know, It's just
the way I think it's always been. You know, like
when I played baseball Bellerman, we we did have to
go to school, we did have to go to class.
We're a big time enough to but we did get
some preferential treatment every now and then.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, well I remember in high school you got released
early to go to a well, I was on the
golf team. Sometimes you had to get released early to
go to a golf event, and you thought you were
the coolest kid around. So I'm sure you thought a
little bit of the same when you were getting preferential
treatment at Bellerman. John brought up the Florida transfer Denzel Aberdeen.
Uh found out on a post on KSR that Denzel's
(32:22):
father can't watch games live. Sounds like that, John Jones, Yeah,
he will DVR it and watch it back later.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
At times, like when his son had a twenty point
performance in the SEC tournament, people were texting him and
he would find out what was happening. But he I
guess he gets too nervous. Shanning can't watch it live?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Hm, well, I.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Guess you know, he and Matt could go into some
random hotel lobby and watch it on TV, but that
would be live, So.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I guess that wouldn't work.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Worse than that, not only could he not watch it
in person live, he can't watch it on TV live.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I don't know, man, I got you know that.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I would think that would be a proud moment if
you got your son playing college ball and you can't
watch him.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think it's even weirder for Matt to do it
when he doesn't have his son involved compared to when
your son is involved. I mean, I can understand if
you are living with the ups and downs if your
son's out there. But yeah, Matt's just doing a radio
show about the game. I mean, like, why.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Can't he watch Oh, you know it means a lot
to him, But well, that's a completely other that's a
completely different conversation.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I think I was gonna say, I think it's stranger
to drive ten hours and then not watch the game.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, and then and then go to the lobby of
that hotel.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
They have lobbies in Lexington.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, I'm with you. Let's take another call. Then we'll
take a break.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
There, all right, John Short, Hey Joe, Johnny, what's up, American?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You're a great American. How about those Batcats last night?
What a win?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yes, I had a seventeen wins.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I was a seventeen that's right. I think you could
have thrown better than those lobal pictures last night, Johnny.
They couldn't throw it over the plate. They were they
were walking our guys, they were hitting them in the head,
they were all over the place.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I know it's a good win. And we played softball
last night too, just just baseball.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Uh. You know, I'm not sure, John, I know they
didn't have a good weekend series recently, so I'm not
sure if they played last night, you're supposed to give
us those scores though, if.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I don't hear too much on television like the softball
that much.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yes, you get to check your local listings, as they say,
to see when when the games are and when they're playing.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Uh, John, they played on and lost to South Carolina.
So they played tonight against E k U in Richmond
at six pm.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Can we get John maybe one of those magnetic schedules
to put on his refrigerator. That way he'll know exactly
when they play and what station they'll be on.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We need to get John one of those. If anybody's listening,
what do.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
You think, John, that'd be good winning.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You can just you can just go right to your
refrigerator and you know, get your plane plain Hamburger out
that you out of the refrigerator and you can look
and see what they play.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, and it's like you but Perry going to the
transfer port. He'd have to come back.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah. I think we all wanted to come back John,
but he wanted to play a little more. And with
all the talent on Kentucky's roster, I think he was
gonna be hurting for playing time.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
And we still have another Kentucky player. We still have
Sweet Mountain Angel Baby, Mountain Mamba, Trent Noah is still
that's right. Yeah, So whis which name do you like
better of John? For for Trent Noah? Do you like
Mountain Mamba or Sweet Mountain Angel Baby?
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Doesn't matter which one?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Are you gonna call him? Are you gonna call him
Sweet Mountain Angel Baby?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I wouldn't call him man, would I would call him Mount's.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Gonna call it Trent. Noah, Okay, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
It's right, and you just have a good easter, and.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah we did. John Hope about you, John, did you have.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
A good one? I did take a good papers? Say?
Is that was two days ago?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It was because of the two.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Gonna take the University of Battle Lakes in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh, little history, lesson here, I'll of the day of
the Boston Marathon. I think, John, that's right, all.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Right, Johnny, good to here. You're a great American.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Anytime you want to run a marathon, John will do it.
Did you say they had like robots trying to run
the marathon with.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I saw a headline about this. I didn't read it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I don't think it went too well for the robots.
So they're not quite ready to take over the world
just yet. They can't keep up with humans in the
Boston Marathon.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, good good. I have been using AI more, Shannon.
I asked AI the other day what it thought about
ksr's Billy Rutledge.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Look at you're so vain.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
It is not great that I wish I did not
do it. Now what did it say, Well, I'm gonna
have to do it again to pull it up because
it's not on Deep Seek anymore. That's the Chinese version
of the chat GPT. Okay, but they were like, if
you're looking for in depth analysis, maybe look elsewhere. We
don't know if Billy is polarizing with his hot takes
and his loyal defense of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is that what it says? Yeah, that's what that was
level defense of Kentucky. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
It got it a little wrong, you know, but Shannon
did get things many things right, as in being divisive
and probably turn the podcast off. If you're looking for
the in depth analysis of maybe somebody like Jack gibbonskill,
well maybe we should do Shannon the dude during the break?
What is you?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Dude? You can do it if you want to. I'm
not getting on that Chinese AI stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh please. We've already got our facial profile and everything mine.
All right, we'll take a break. We'll be back here
on the Case. I appreciate all right, welcome back. It's
our final segment here on Wednesday edition of The Case,
our pre show. We've got a couple of people online
and I'm gonna go quick so we can get to
some of them, but deep seek the Chinese version of
(37:43):
chat GPT. I don't think they really know who Shannon
the Dude is.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Can I just read verbatim what it thinks Shannon the Dude?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, I'm curious to see what AI I thinks I am.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Shannon the Dude is a well known Louisville radio personality,
most notably associated with hip hop and R and B
stations in the area.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well, they got half of it, right, I guess I
am in a noval. I'm on the radio.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I don't play hip hop, though it's been active for years,
possibly decades in the Louisville radio market, known for supporting
Louisville and Southern rap artists, playing underground tracks, and hosting
mixed shows. So I don't get invited to mixed shows either.
Not just the Christmas party. Oh, let's see, it's cool.
It's a cool nod to Louisville's hip hop history that
(38:25):
Shannon is on Kentucky Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Shannon's role as a long time DJ makes him a
cultural touchstone, similar to how DJ's like Big Boy LA
or Greg Street Atl are revered in their cities we do.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
We need a little work on AI. Like, it's only
about fifty percent, right. I just think that's what's gonna
be taking your job one day that.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let it work out. The kinks.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of kinks in there.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But wow, the neutral icon for hip hop and R
and B in the city of Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Shannon, I think you could take, you know, like the
music genre and flip that to rock roll and all
of that would be completely accurate, you know, a rock and.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Roll icon, legendary voice.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
All right, now we're getting okay, I almost got it right,
except for the hip hop.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Still now, now, now it sounds like they was very,
very wrong. Let's go to the phones though, Shannon. He's
up next.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Laura Hey, Laura, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Hey guys? How are you guys doing great?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And great?
Speaker 5 (39:23):
So? I know that we've been talking a lot about
Nico and the Tennessee situation. But have you seen the
latest where Nico's brother Madden just entered the transfer portal
at Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, we just talked about that yesterday. I was I
saw that and I was questioning whether or not that
was true or not because he left UCLA right went
to Arkansas. Now going back to UCLA to play quarterback.
I guess behind his brother. I don't really understand the
whole thing.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yes, as if we thought that this family could not
get any now they're doing like a two for one deal.
But the latest is is that Arkansas is now apparently
threatening to sue him for breach of contract and for
the Nile money. So I was just hoping to hear
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Okay, thanks for the caller, Yes, thanks for Laurie.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
You're you are exactly right. The Arkansas A d came
out and say that he supports the NIL Collective pursuing
legal action against athletes that break any legally binding NIL contracts.
So I think he is. I guess assuming that the
I I'm Alieva kid at Arkansas did break a contract
Shannon by leaving this is this could get ugly, don't
(40:38):
you think?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah? I think it already has.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
But what what kind of money do you think that
he is getting paid by UCLA to come play back
up quarterback to his brother.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, that's the thing. Nico probably might get a mill
or two, but what is his brother gonna get? Maybe
it was a package deal man.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
But if I'm a little brother and I'm not gonna
bring dad or brother along, if I'm not, if I'm
little and I'm not getting paid the same as what
big brother is, and maybe he is, I don't know.
I haven't seen the numbers. I don't know the contract
situation on it. But what you want to go out
and make a name for yourself somewhere you think, I mean, well,
who's to say he could make more than Nico?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
But the logical reasoning with this family's gone out the
window a long time ago. I mean, this has been
a disaster. They're gonna make a lot less money than
what they could have lacked next year. But I don't know.
I don't think this is going to be much of
a trend. This could be the outlier, and let's at
least hope for that. Shannon tell me about draftings for.
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