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Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk NFL Draft, meeting listeners and the telepathic twins.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the KSR Pre Show Thursday, April twenty fourth.
I am Shannon the Dude to be joined by Billy Relige,
and you can give us a call on the Clark's
Pupping Shop phone line at eight five nine two aight
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The KSR Pre Show is being brought to you by

(00:21):
Italics Fine Italian Dining in Lexington. I'm being joined by
the least pleasant person in the KSR world to meet
out in public, Billy our Sports.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's according to Matt Jones.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Those are not my words, those are his words from
the show yesterday. He ranked you dead last, Billy. What
do you have to say? Do you want to give
a rebuttal to that? I think you're a pretty pleasant
person to meet.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's great to be with you, Shanon. It's a beautiful
day outside. Today's a beautiful day. Yeah, I mean Brandon
Garrison's coming into studio. NFL Draft is tonight, we end
closer to the Kentucky Derby. I'm just so thrilled and
halp to be here now to the poll. There's no
way I am last on the list. First of all,
the niceness after the show meeting people.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Give me a break, Shane, back me up here a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
You've already got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You set a pole. There was no poll that I saw.
It was Matt Jones' power rankings in his own head.
So I don't think if we put it up to
a poll.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think that people.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean, I see you all the time when we
go on remotes, we do the pre show, then you
you know, you kind of set off to the side
and watch the show and make sure everything's running smoothly.
And I see you talking all the time to just
you know, people that are there listening to the show.
I always think that you're You're very nice from what
I can tell. You know, Ryan is overly nice. He will,

(01:45):
you know, talk to people when they don't even want
to talk to him. But you know, I've stuck around
after remotes twenty thirty minutes talking to people after the
show while everybody else is long. God, so I don't
want to hear how I am second to last least
pleasant person to meet unless we're talking about in the
world of OVW that's a different conversation. But outside of
that world, I think you and I are very good

(02:08):
with listeners, Shannon, I think we're top three. I don't
know about these rankings, man. I mean, look, I like
to mingle. I like to stick around and clean up
the radio equipment, the diet coke bottles on the table,
those all need to be cleaned up.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Fact.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Some people to run out as soon as the show
show's over. Some people like to talk.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know what, I can't argue that.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I can't tell you how many times I've picked up
a diet coke and a half eaten cookie on the
table because somebody was in a hurry to get out
of there.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So give me a break, please least nice to the people.
I mean, it's unbelievable how many people show up at remotest's.
Let's let's start there, Shait. The Big Blue Nation is
the best, and we can go to any town. What
don't you guys have a street going on where somebody
has shown up at every remote invited where you're remote?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Man, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
We've traveled all over this country and then even outside
of the country. Even when we were in Canada, we
had show up for the shows. I mean this fan base,
Kentucky fans, fans of KSR are the.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I would put our fans. I say this all the time.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean I would put our fan base up against
any other fan base in the world.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, no, I'm with you. I need to be in
the middle of nowhere Utah.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, the last of a zombies are running down the
hill to come after you.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
And then we've got a crowd for the remote. It's
it's it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Uh, you know, even I mean anywhere that you're at there,
there's going to be somebody showing up. And as long
as Shannon the Dude's not stealing hand sanitizer bottles. I
don't know why that came up in my head, but
you know what, there's going to be a crowd.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, so listen, don't listen to all the riff
raff out there. Don't listen to what some people say.
Billy and I the pre show. We love to meet
the listeners when you come out to see us. So
it was absolutely I even did a cameo last night.
Billy and I haven't done cameos in a long time.
I'm back on Cameo again. Oh, just wishing happy birthdays
to people from my garage.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Anybody asking for feet pick or is that just no?
I think that's just you. Are you still on Cameo
because I.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Haven't downloaded it in a while, so, I mean there
may be some requests. I don't know how it works,
but I haven't been on since since the incident.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
You're like your one. That was like your second request,
and I can't believe you actually did it. I told you, man,
just open up only fans if you want to do
that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
I'm a man of the people, but I need five dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I was really a dollar ninety nine after taxes
on Cameo.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cameo getting on there filming videos.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, it's perfect time of the year for it. Shannon,
you said you were wishing some happy birthdays, yeah, yesterday.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, all right, maybe you can do some Derby picks later.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Derby.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Don't ask me.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
About the Derby man, do not ask me. Hold on
a minute, I get a little text here from an
anonymous Texter. Okay, let's see. Ryan has been the best
to meet by far. Billy is the worst dot dot dot,
the worst exclamation.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Mark the worst. Okay, I'm just saying there it is.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm not making that up. You see it right there
in black white, I see it. Yeah, that is the
text a screenshot. I won't say who sent that to me.
I don't know who that originally was from. But Ryan
has been the best to meet by far. Billy is
the worst. Dot dot dot the worst.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, you don't have to cover up MAT's name at
the top of the contact info there. I mean, well,
that was sent to me like that. I didn't I
didn't get the bit.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, okay, worst. Okay, So work on your people skills, Billy.
We drafted, speaking of KSR, yesterday, we drafted our basketball
rosters for the Caliperi era. Yeah, and again Matt declared
that he had the best team he and Drew. I
think if you put it out there on social media,
a lot of people did say that they thought I

(05:48):
had the best roster out of the group. Let's go
through some of them here and see what we got.
You tell me who you think has the best roster.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay, well I can tell you who has the worst.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Me.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, people were saying that I had the best, No
I and I love to back you up when you
when you need a helping Hamdshannon. But I don't know
if you understood the assignment. I think you were half listening.
And look, I relate as a producer. You're answering the phones,
you're doing it twenty other things.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, but I leave them up. I couldn't keep up
with like who had what, so I was kind of
having to you know. Plus, we didn't know we were
going to do this draft until he just sprung us
on it last minute, so I didn't.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Have That's that's another thing, no preparation.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right on top of that, I had the last pick, Like,
who's who's deciding these orders that were going in?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know, you get the last pick.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's tough to have the you know, look at whoever
has the best of the last pick of the draft
tonight in the NFL draft and tell me what kind.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Of well it's different. I mean, it's it's a snake draft.
It's more advantageous than the NFL draft tonight. But you
picked I mean, the prompt was what they did at
Kentucky and you picked Devin Booker and Shay Gilgis.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, all these guys are in the NBA or.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Correct Okay, Devin and Shay like they were, they didn't
achieve their stardom and excellent basketball prowess until they were
in the NBA and we saw their improvement. I mean,
Booker couldn't get off the bench when it really mattered.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Dude, he had people licking his car handle, the door handle. Okay,
if you're not a star, you don't have random fans
coming up and licking the handle on your car door,
all right, licking the car door of darn Fox, Malik Monk,
Deron Lamb, Julius Randall. No, it was Devin Booker. The

(07:28):
guy was a star at Kentucky. I don't care if
he came off the bench, Reed, Sheppard just came off
the bench. Was in the the NBA draft.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Lottery, all right, he was a top five pick. And
he couldn't even wear a Kentucky shirt when Arkansas Kentucky played.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, so I'm just saying my team is Shay Gilgess,
Alexander Tyler, Hero, Devin Booker, Karl Anthony Towns Bam out
of bio Let's roll.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I'll put those guys up against anybody's team, Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I mean I like Carl at the four and even
Bam at the five. I think that's a solid front court.
There's no doubt.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
PJ. Washed mean off the bench. I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I didn't even know who was picked at that point
of the draft. So Matt gave me PJ. Washington.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
That's fine. I don't care. I don't eat. You can
give me PJ.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Washington with the broken pinky or whatever he had in
the NCAA tournament that year.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'll take him. Marcus tick off the bench.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Come on, all right, don't get too defensive. I mean
I like Drew's team a lot. I mean, if we're
just looking at it from a bird's eye view, Emmanuel
quickly will take a deep breath and hit those free throws.
But every by the every other person on the roster,
I feel like I wouldn't want to meet in the
street fight Tyler Julis, Michael ki Gilchris Julius Randall to
Marcus Cousins.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
That's the thing, Like, you know, Drew's team, My team
comes to play basketball.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Drew's team just wants to have a brawl. They just
want to fight.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's Brandon Garrison after the Oklahoma game. He's just just
looking for the smoke.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right. I mean, come on, man, I got Tyler Hero,
He's a bucket. It's a bucket.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Karl Anthony Towns, Yeah, I know he didn't shoot threes
here at Kentucky, but bam out of Baio.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Come on now, I'll give it to mad He's got
a good team.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I mean, you get Foxy picking the draft of course, Anthony.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Vis and Terrence Jones.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It kind of just falls to you, right, and then
Oscar as being as one of his bench players along
with Reed Shepherd. I was a little surprised Ryan. You know,
Ryan went with Willie Coley Scott Stein much earlier than
a guy like Oscar.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
And I was gonna pick Ochsker, but I didn't want
Oscar disrupting my locker room. And you know, having premonitions
of our of our team playing going down in the game,
you know, you got to think about the the psyche,
you know, the how is this team going to function
together in the same locker room. You can't have I mean, yeah,
Oscar may go out and get you thirty rebounds, but
you can't have them coming in and talking about a

(09:34):
pre emit premonition of a plane crash.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Can't have that, That's right, you can't have any locker
room drama, and that's where maybe your roster takes it
over the edge. Shanning, you probably have great team chemistry
on your team.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Speaking of drafts, the NFL draft is tonight, that's right.
Cam Ward is the heavy favorite to go first, which
we've talked about. You said that he leaked it on
a Twitch broadcast. Oh yeah, he was like I think
everybody already knew that anyway, who.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Was the best receiver in the league. And it's like
Treylon Burk's and Calvin Ridley like give me a break.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, but he could you know, I guess he
will end up going to the Titans.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
They had the first pick.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Could though, stir up some some problems with Will Levis.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Do you think that there's a chance that Will Levis
gets traded when they bring in cam Ward or maybe
they you know, sit him behind Levis, make sure he
you know, gets his sea legs in the NFL and
is ready to go before they make a move on Levis.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
No, I think it's a very good chance Will Levis
is traded during the NFL draft, if not shortly after.
When you pick somebody with the number one overall pick. Nowadays,
you're going to be expected to start right away, and
whether that's right or not, that's a whole other show, Shannon,
because we can talk about the you know, the success
of rookie quarterbacks and how much it's dependent on giving
them a little bit more time to figure things out,

(10:50):
because a lot of times they're drafted by terrible organizations
and they're thrown into bad situations that can can kill
their confidence. But I fully expect Will Levis to not
be on the Titan's roster after they select cam Ward. Well,
was it only a couple of years ago we were
watching Will Levis fall in the green room.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
No, he's got a right if that happens tonight.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
He's got a hate draft night. Unless it goes somewhere
that maybe it was beneficial.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
For him too, Levis.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think he just wants to
start somewhere and wants to continue to prove himself, So
I think it a change of scenery would be good
for him. But you know, Will Levis's sisters around him
and his girlfriend who went viral and became famous that night.
I'm hoping the same doesn't happen to a guy like
Maxwell Harriston who was invited to the green room, and
we'll be hoping to hear his name called tonight.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
And then, I mean the other story.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Of the draft is Shader Sanders Shannon. Where is he
going to go? I think many expected him to be
a top five pick. I think it's much more likely
that he's picked around the range of twenty one. So
I mean you could see, yeah, I think I really
think you could see a fall. And I mean there's
even rumors that even like a Jackson Dark could be
selected before shadur So you know, I don't know, this

(11:59):
is a weird because people lie a lot, right, I mean,
there's just some really bad info out there when it
comes to the NFL Draft, and and it's lying season
for a reason. So I'll definitely be tuned in for it,
looking forward to it tonight. In the smallest market in
the NFL, in green Bay, green That's right.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
That's right, man.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's it's going to be quite the environment at Green Bay, Wisconsin.
If you've never been to Green Bay, and more in
particular lambeau Field, just just imagine like a sort of
I don't know, like your average Midwestern neighborhood. Then you
take an NFL stadium and then boom, just drop it
right in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's lambeau Field.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I don't think there's any other stadium quite like it,
especially at the pro level. I mean, we're at that
that house party a couple of years ago. In the
house party, I'm sitting here there in a living room
in this house in a rocking chair, and they got
the you know, the big tall glass slotting doors that
goes into the backyard.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I'm just sitting there, you know, join my hot Toddy
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
We were drinking that night, and I look out the
window and lambeau Fiel is right there in the backyard.
Like this is insanity, you know, It's crazy how it's
just set up there.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's no place quite like Lambeau.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
You're in like a residential area. You take a turn
and there's a huge NFL stadium right there, and one
of the most historic, right.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
I mean, that's the Frozen Tundrent. We're talking Vince Lombardi.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, these are some legends of the sport played there,
and even Shannon the Dude.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Rode bicycles with players practice right.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
The only other like stadium that I can really think
that would would be similar to that is kind of
like Churchill Downs here in Louisville. You know, you're driving
through neighborhoods and then boom, there's Churchill Downs. That's true,
probably not in the best neighborhood. And then you turn
around and there's the mecca that is Churchill Downs. And
and they've had to stop some renovations that they've been doing.
They just announced that the other day. I mean, I

(13:53):
guess maybe because of some tariffs and construction was going
to be a little bit more expensive than they thought.
They've they've had to put a de lay on it, Shannon,
as they get ready for the next Kentucky Derby coming up, Well,
you're gonna be out there interviewing the jockeys this year
for the Derby.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I'm idea. Yeah, I'm gonna need to know how.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Hard inflation has hit the Lily drinks and the mint julips,
because I believe they were already about fifty seven dollars
last year, so I expect them to go up even
more this year. Oh yeah, you can send me a
picture of the menu when you get out there.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I may try to go after some trainers this year.
I went out to Keenland yesterday and met Kenny McPeak
KSR guests and winner of not only the Oaks but
the Kentucky Derby last year. So well, you know, we'll
broaden our horizons a little bit, Shannon, and we're just
trying to learn some more buzzwords so we can ask
the jockeys actual real questions instead of you know, what'd

(14:43):
you think of that race?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Or do you think the horse knows he's in a race?
What are your buzzwords? Furlong?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, the furlong? How does the track feel? Is it firm?
You know? Is it sloppy? How is it affecting your horse?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
You know, any points in the track running little different?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You know, I don't know. We're learning here, Shane. All right,
well i'll look forward to that coming up. What are
we about a week two weeks.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Ago in the Derby? Yeah, a couple of weeks. It
looks sounds it seems like.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
We'll take your phone calls coming up next eight five, nine, two, aight,
oh twenty two eighty seven. The guys who are very
friendly to all of our listeners will be friendly to
you if you call.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
In as well. It is the KSR pre Show.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
It is the KSR Pre Show eight five, nine and
two A twenty two eighty seven. We'll get to your
calls in just a minute. You brought up during the
break the AI that you were trying to figure out
if AI would know who you and I are. Whatever
AI you were using was really bad, But then somebody
followed up with it yesterday, I guess with the is
it the groc on Twitter or the Chan GPT? The

(15:42):
American version of it actually was pretty spot on for
the most part. Did not think I was a hip
hop DJ like your AI did.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yes, the Deep Seek Chinese AI doesn't seem like it's ready, Shannon,
which is probably a good thing, I guess. So next
time we ask AI question, maybe we'll just go to
the Twitter version or chat GBT.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Did you watch any of the games last night in
the NBA. No.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I came home and watched Conclave last night. Shit you okay,
you're getting ready for the new Pope.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I understand. Well.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
My Celtics went up too on the Magic, so I'm
happy about that. But Porzingis got busted open, said, I
did see this.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I saw a still frame of his bloody head shin
and what happened.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, he got an elbow.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
They ended up calling I think a flagrant won on it,
so he had to shoot free throws.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
But he gets busted open.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's got blood running all over his face and it's
into like his you know, he's got that shaved, but
he's got a shaved to have.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
But he's got a little bit of hair up there.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know, it's like a like a one guard if
you're getting a haircut.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Uh, maybe even less than that.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
But he comes back to shoot the free throws and
he's got blood like all in his hair and like
all over his face. And I don't think I've ever
seen that before. Like normally they don't let you stay
in the game, even to shoot free throw. I didn't
think anyway, But they let him come back shoot the
free throws. Then they you know, took him out and
cleaned them up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
But well, yeah, you got to clean that up. I
don't want anybody bleeding on me.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, I mean I was watching it with a buddy
of mine.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
He's like, oh, yeah, it's all drawed up, it'll be okay, Like, yeah,
what happens when he sweats he's gonna have more that
dried up blood all over his face, rubbing all over that.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
You can't have that anyway. Get some tow boys there
to clean up the sweat and blood. Please, this is
the playoffs. But good on your Celtics. And were there
any other games last night, Shannon?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, a couple of others, but you know, Celtics are
the ones that really matter, the only one that matters.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, that's right, and the.

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slash Audio Hey five nine, twenty two eighty seven. Let's
go to the phones and talk to Nicky.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
What's up? Nikki?

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Hey, Nikki.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Billy On the Today Showing, the Coxucky Football got a
really good vote, so they had a life interview with
Maxwell Harriston and they probably lasted thirty second. Showed him
some highlights, having Shilling graduating with his family, interviewing twice.
It's got to help football and good recognition for that
young man.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
No doubt about it. Yeah, I didn't get to see
on the Today Show. But Maxwell Harriston he is Where
is he projected to go? I'd have to play it
like end of the first round, start of the second.
But Shannon, he got invited to the green room. He's
gonna be there, so he could theoretically be like a
Will Levis and not selected and had to show up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I hope that doesn't happen for us.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'll see here, one projection has him going at twenty
fourth to the Vikings.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
That'd be good.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Let's see another one has him at twenty seventh with
the Ravens. So it's from what I'm seeing here. I mean,
you know, you can go off the projections and take
them for what they're worth. But according to you know,
people who do the mock draft for a living, they've
got Maxwell Harriston looks right around somewhere between twenty four
through thirty. Another one's got them at thirtieth with the Bills.

(19:27):
So yeah, hopefully he gets his name called out in
the first round.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
And when you get when you get picked around that area,
you go to a good team, right, So hopefully Maxwell
will be planning on maybe a playoff team soon.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I think one of the bigger surprises is Dion Walker.
You guys touched on it, yestera me day. I mean,
that guy's what going to be a third fourth round pick. Now,
it's it's unbelievable what's happened to his stock. I also
think about some of my favorite NFL draft moments. Do
you remember when Ceedee Lamb was sitting at home and
was getting drafted and his girlfriend tried to take his phone.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah right,
get that back? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
What are you checking that?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Take another person's phone out of their hand, right, I
mean that's that's uh, it's privacy, right, that's private.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Depends on where you're at in your relationship, Shannon. Would
you let Sarah go through your phone? No?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I don't think I would let anybody go through my phone?
Would you?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
You're gonna let moroat? I'm an open book if you
can go through my phone whenever I want. I got
nothing to hide. I can't live if I had something
to hide, Shannon, what's not you.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Got anything to hide? I just don't want anybody like
just going through my phone. I feel like that's I
don't know, I mean it's yeah, I feel like that's
going into the the you know, the shower and pulling
back the curtain.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Thinks of privacy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Looking up your browser history, Shannon, or do you have
something to hide?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
You gonna see all my extensive research that I do
for this show every day in my browser history.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
You don't need to be seeing that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's like, why are you looking up furry conventions and costumes? Like,
what is what is going on?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, there's probably one of those going on this weekend.
I feel like there's always a convention like every other
week going on in Lobsll or Likesington.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, the furres have money too, you know,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
So let's go to Jonathan. What's up Jonathan?

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Hey, guys, thinks for taking my call. Those rankings yesterday
a pretty bogus. I've always loved chatting both of you
at the Shady Race of Louisville. I hope you guys
will be in Volisville for some remotes uh this summer.
I just wanted to say about will Evis that I
think today is just really sad day for for him
and and for all UK fans that have been supporting

(21:29):
them at the Titans. I think, I guess at this point,
best case scenario is that you know, they draft their
new guy and he goes out somewhere new and hopefully
can find a new home that maybe he can find
a path to play. But I just I just still
hate it for him that I feel like he didn't
get the development that he deserved in the right environment.

(21:52):
Everybody has been kind of giving him the Josh Allen comparison,
and that he just needed a couple of years to
kind of work on on limiting the terrible turnovers and
the terrible kind of moments that he's had and just
focus on being consistent and being great. So I overall,
I just think it's a real sad day for Kentucky

(22:12):
fans with with will Levis. But I hope that he
can find some some new home and really shine there.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Thanks for the colleg Jonathan, Will. I appreciate it, you know.
I mean, look, here's the thing. If will Levis, you know,
continues to have the work ethic, I think he can
land on his feet somewhere. I don't know where that
will be, but I think that he can.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
And look at a guy like Baker, it just depends
on where you're at a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
We'll be right back KOSR apreciow, Welcome back, KSR pre
show a little stp right here. You can hear my
band playing this when the Saturday Night Billy we returned
to ten Roof, not ten Roof Nashville. We're gonna be
at ten Roof and Louisville Saturday night at eight o'clock.
So it's one of those shows where we're gonna have
to get up there and play for four straight hours
again getting too.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Old for this man. Four straight hours is who? Like
we did?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know, it's okay to do it once a year,
but you turn around and do it a month later,
it's not gonna be easy.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Well, no, no worry.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
You'll get a fireball shot from the crowd and you'll
get a surge of energy when you do another STP song,
so you'll be fine. You added any songs to the
setless recently?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
We did add the one that we were talking about
on KSR a couple of days ago, mister Brightside from
the Yes, yeah, that's a good one. We added another
Green Day song to the list, So yeah, we're always
We're always evolve. Of course, we're still looking for a
permanent guitar player too, so that's that's still a search
that's ongoing.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
So yeah, send your submissions to me at Shannon the
Dude on social media.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
All right, So, Billy, before we get into like stuff
that has completely nothing to do at all with Kentucky
or sports, Oh come on, we can't do that now
that we will just themnut at the house versus the
NC double A decision. I wanted to just update people
on this has been delayed another two weeks. Remember this
is the the case that would back pay former college athletes.

(23:53):
But the hang up here is on the roster limits.
So the judge is giving the nc DOUABLEA a couple
of weeks to adjust the roster line's and allow current
players to be grandfathered in so that they don't lose
either a scholarship or their place on the team. Probably
a good thing, right, So you have to just have
all these guys that have scholarships and go, well bye,
we have a new law that says that you can't
have any more than x amount of players keeps. You know,

(24:16):
it gives the possibility for these guys to stay on.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
The team and a very confusing thing that's happening in
college sports right now. That makes a lot of sense,
doesn't it. So you know, the NCAA will now have
fourteen days to respond. And now that's why there's a delay.
And while we're on pins and needles, I think you
got to take your time on this. You got to
get it right right. I mean, if you were to
have an oversight and then something like that were to
happen we're current scholarship players were whisked off the team

(24:40):
is then it'd be a real problem and could open
you up to some lawsuits.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
So you know this is this is something that we've
been waiting for, Shannon, but it sounds like we're gonna
have to be waiting for.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
A little bit longer, a couple more weeks.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, all about the money man, What's what it's come
down to?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Speaking of which fair or foul? From Joe Kyle who
writes it on Twitter? Okay, this is about Dick Vitelo
who tweeted out I guess he's complaining on Twitter about
college athletes making millions of dollars. I think he more
specifically was talking about the twenty million dollar nil that
was being reported. Would you heard Matt say yesterday he

(25:16):
doesn't believe it. I don't believe it either.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think that's that number is way more inflated than
what the actual truth is. I wouldn't say it's twenty
but maybe it's a little closer than you think.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
But anyway, he says, for someone who made millions broadcasting
and talking about the games, is upset when the athletes
that are providing the product itself, make money fair or foul?
I'm wait, so Dicky v tweeted that out last night? No, no, no,
I'm I told you what Dick Vittel tweeted. He was
complaining about the number of twenty million dollars that has

(25:49):
going to report it. This listener is asking fair or
foul for someone who made millions of dollars broadcasting and
talking about the games being upset about athletes who are
actually providing the product money fair or foul? For Dick
Vitel to complain about athletes making millions of dollars, Oh well, I.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Mean, I think it's it's probably foul in the grand
scheme of things. Now, we've we've heard a lot of
curmudgeons talk about how it's not as it was back
in my day, and we've seen a lot of them
just even leave the sport, right, I mean, coach k
Roy Williams, these guys just aren't going to deal with it.
The guy at Villanova as well, Jay. So you know,

(26:27):
it's it's not surprising, but I think it is foul
for Dick Vitel to complain about it.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I would hope that he would realize the opportunity that
these players are being finally offered, right, I mean the
same that coaches have been offered for so many years.
I think the landscape has become more fair for everyone.
So it's disappointing to hear that Dicky V has that opinion.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Any thing. Well, I mean I would say foul too.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, think about all the money over the years,
and that's what this whole you know, house versus C
Double A is about all the money that the NC
Double A and schools have profited off the backs of
these players who are going out there and we're playing
for free.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I mean, so you say playing for free.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
They were getting a scholarship, okay, fair enough, but their name,
image and likeness that was being used all over the
place and they weren't getting a penny for it. So yeah,
I say foul. I mean, I'm all for the players
getting paid. If they go out there and get millions
of dollars, more power to them.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
And you know the value of a degree has changed
a lot over the years. You could argue that it
was much more valuable, you know, three four, five decades
ago than it is now.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's that's the other thing, man, how many college graduates
have gone, you know, and spent let's say they didn't
go on scholarship, they had to you know, pay eighty
thousand up to one hundred thousand dollars tuition, you know,
just to go to college.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Then you get out of college, you can't find a job.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Right, So you know, nowadays it's a joke. It really is.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
And I'm not going to act like a degree was
not valuable and maybe is not valuable today because it
can set you up for opportunities in life. But I mean,
and they couldn't put peanut butter on their crackers without
getting suspended, Shannon, I mean it was ridiculous. I mean,
amateurism as a concept is was outdated by you know,
half a century.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
At that point, right, But you know, I mean, like
take me for instance, I remember, you know, graduating and going, Okay,
I'm part time at a radio station. But it can't
find a full time job anywhere. College degree, Like, what
does that even mean anymore? Unless it's very very specific
as to what you're you know, your major was for communications,
Like me, I ended up going and working at a

(28:32):
hospital for four years after getting a degree from Bellerman
in communications.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
And you know, let's say you play four or five
years on a football team, you get a sports management degree,
and you know you thought you were going pro, but
an injury holds you out of it. You know, you're
unless you didn't take advantage of the opportunities, then you
find yourself in a weird void.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Now let's talk about something much more important. Okay, you
heard Matt talk about yesterday on the show. He says,
you know what we do on KSR, first and foremost
is innertainment. It's an entertainment show. In Kentucky's sports is
just the vehicle that drives it, right, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
So we're going to lean into that entertainment aspect of
the show heavily on this this next part of the segment.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Okay, going on, I am fascinated.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I am fascinated with this video of these two twins
that were on a news report in Australia. Okay, set aside,
what this saw, what the topic it is? All right,
you know what I'm talking about? Yes, I was gonna
play this yesterday.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
All right, So there was some.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Crime I don't know, like exactly what the details of
the crime was. Doesn't matter. That's not what I want
to focus on here. I want to focus on these
two twins that were interviewed and seem to speak in unison.
They're the I'm calling them the the in sync Twins
because everything they say is perfectly in sync. I have
no idea how this happens, baffling. I don't know if

(29:49):
it's telepathy or what it is. I want to play
just a little bit of a clip from this Australian
News broadcast of two twins who were interviewed about the
the crime that just took place.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So take a listen to this.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Here we go and one guy, he was up there
with our mom and he went up there and he
was coming back down towards us, and he goes, run,
he's got a gun. And our hearts started a pound
and I said, oh Mom, where's mom? And poor mama

(30:23):
was suck up there by apparently our bravey Mom. She goes,
are you all right? Because he had all blahod over
his face, and he goes, I'll shoot you.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
She goes, hey, I'm.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Needing to help, and Mom just strategy, needing to make
him look the other way. And he looked the other
way and Mama ran into the bush behind the fence
fence and then I goes to I'll find you and
I'll shoot you.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I mean, like, I am blown away by this entire.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Telepathic twin connection that these two have where they can
be interviewed.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I mean, Billy, how does that happen? Like?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Do they have a prepared statement where they know that
they're going to say word for word the same thing.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Then the guy asked a question and you go, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well they couldn't get that right because they don't know
what they're going to say.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right, Well, here we go when we're running.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
I hope he doesn't higher.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Yeah, we were so how close to him do you
think you were?

Speaker 7 (31:27):
Well, see he was out there and we were half
say yeah, yeah. Don't you think of all of that
at the time. No, you just run for your life. Life.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
They kind of got it wrong there at the end.
One said life and one said safety. Is No one
else's baffled by that as I am. Is that not
one of the strangest things you've ever seen or heard?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
It's bizarre. I don't know if I've ever seen anything
like it.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Bridget and paula Australian identical twins who had previously gone viral,
maybe in like twenty eighteen nineteen, when I think they
were on America's Got Talent or Britain's Got Talent, Shannon. Yeah,
but this resurfaces and I don't know how they do it.
It's it's incredible. So I had to look into it, right,
I mean, because people all had the same question. Some

(32:14):
people think it's twin telepathy. Do you think there's anything
to being a twin? And like if somebody were to
get hurt, the other twin would feel it thousands of
miles away, Shanna.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I don't know if I believe that.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
But you know, like remember when we have like the
Sclar brothers on Yeah, a lot of times they would
kind of finish each other's sentences.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
But this right here is on a different level. This
isn't finishing each other's sentence.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
This is saying the exact same thing at the exact
same time together, like in unison.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
And I've never seen anything like that before.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Right, And so that's why I'm leaning it's it's not telepathy.
It's more mirroring. When people closely connected start to unconsciously
reflect each other, then I think you can get a
situation like this. So like if we were to live
with each other for thirty three years, Shannon in the
same house, doing the same activities, working the same job,

(33:03):
you know, we probably start finishing each other's sentences. But
I think there's probably also an added layer to this
of them being twins, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I mean, I guess I don't know. I mean, I
know a lot of twins. Well, I don't know a
lot of twins. I know some twins, but not know
of them talk together like that. You know.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I don't believe like if they get a prick on
their finger, the other twin feels it hundreds of thousands of.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Miles together ow at the same time.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
No, I don't think that, but I do think there
are situations where you can feel your other twin. And
I don't know I have any expertise on it. I
was friends with twins and I still am, and maybe
I can ask them more about this. But Shannon, there
is a weird connection with twins. It's maybe not as
black and white as what we're saying, but I mean,

(33:46):
obviously in that video clip that you see that there's
something a little something going on.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I guess if you asked them the question and they
had different answers, you could know which one's lying.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, the same thing, you know, you know one of
them's lying. You don't know which ones' tell them the truth.
But like, let's do the interview separate now next time, right,
I mean no, I want them together? App No, what
are you talk? That's no. I want them to get police.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
You're gonna take them into different rooms and sequester them
and interview them. They're not gonna get to talk together
to keep their story straight. Shitted, So this carjacking, whatever
is going on, they shouldn't be interviewing together like that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
We don't really do guest interviews on this show, but Billy,
if you can book the telepathic twins for the KSR
pre show, I could do an entire show with them, Like,
just have them feel in for me. I'm gonna have
them feel in for you next time you're on vacation.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Well, our liaison Max stuff. He may need to help
us with that.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Maybe he can get in touch or at least find
the city where these these twins are in and we
can reach out to Maybe we'll just make it a
fade this episode where I've got to call a random
town and maybe I just end up trying to call
someone that knows these twins to give us more information.
But it's funny. I saw that story and I thought
immediately that is a pre show topic. I cannot wait
to play it. And then, you know, you bring it

(34:55):
up today because you and I will.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
See you and I have that you got the thing
you talk about it. We didn't even talk about it
before the show. You know, it would be cool at first, Billy,
but I think like after an hour of listening to
those two talk in Unison, I would be like, you
know what, I need a drink, and luckily I would
have some silk velvet whiskey right there next to me. Oh,
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(35:18):
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be right back for the final segment of the ksrpre
show to Tops and Twins.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Right there, Billy, some eighties music. You probably don't know
anything about eighties music. Oh you do?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
All right?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Ah, that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
You know the lyrics at Shannon of the Dude At
Billy our Sports, Aaron writes in and says, when I
met Billy and Shannon or no, No says at Shannon
of the Dude, When I met Billy, He was very nice.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Both of you are incredibly friendly. Don't listen to the haters.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
We had a bunch of people back us up on
the text line. I appreciate that. Also.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
One person on the text line saying about the identical twins, Shannon,
one person has friends that are twins. They went fishing
with them, picked one up in Williamsburg and the other
in Middlesborough. They both had the exact same outfit on Well.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's what these twins were like. They say they dressed
the same every day. I mean, if you had a twin,
could you dress the same every day? Wouldn't that get old?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Well?

Speaker 4 (37:02):
I want to be my own person.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, I mean I feel like if you're like above
the age of seven, you get a twin and you're
dressing the same, I don't know, Man's it's a little weird.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Listen, I get the unbreakable bond I have with my
identical twin. That does not mean I have to wear
overalls every time that they're feeling overalls, right, I mean
that seems a little bizarre. But when you're that deep
into the sauce, Shin, I guess you just you're doing
everything together at that point.

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(38:15):
ask you this. We were just talking during the break
about that there's a story that came up. The likelihood
of this happening is very low, but we're talking about
you know, lambeau Field earlier, Speaking of stadiums, there's talk of,
I guess next year, the possibility of the Cincinnati Bengals
and the Chicago Bears sharing the same stadium.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
You saw this, right, Yeah, Now this is an odd story.
I mean, there's a couple of stadiums that have two teams,
right La and then one in New Jersey right with
the Giants and the Jets. But I guess the Bears
are having a tough time finding tax payer funding for
a new stadium, and with a team like Cincinnati, who
is only a couple months away from they're lease expiring

(38:58):
that I guess there is a option that Cincinnati could
play home games in Chicago. I guess that would help
the funding that the Bears needed to find a new stadium.
But how does that help Cincinnati?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, it seems like it's gonna let Cincinnati come in
for free.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
That seems like a long shot.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I did see some stuff where it seemed like the
county and the team in Cincinnati were making some progress
on some renovations of a new stadium. But you know,
I don't know Shannon asking tax payers to pay for
these billion dollar stadiums when billion dollars or billionaire owners
aren't willing to do it themselves.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
It just seems a.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Little greedy, don't Yeah. Yeah, And like I said, I
got very doubtful this happens. I mean, the Cincinnati just
the Bengals just gonna up and leave Cincinnati and go
play in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
The Chicago Bengals at that point, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I don't you just call it like the A's the Athletics.
You know, the A's are playing in what Sacramento this year.
They're just talking from the Athletics and they're not even
gonna be in that stadium for like another what three years.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Or something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
They're gonna they go to Vegas, right, Yeah, I don't
know that whole situation. Straighters left A's left. You would
think you would have a stadium already ready to go
for them before you just you know, sold the team.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
But it is what it is. Billy.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Let me ask you this about texting etiquette. Do you
have texting etiquette? Do you oh, do you fill the
obligation to quickly text someone back.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
When you get a text?

Speaker 4 (40:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay, no, I actually like wait a little bit, Well,
you're actually, according to an etiquette and Manners expert. They say,
it's perfectly okay to not text somebody right away.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You have to separate the two realize it's just another
form of communication and whatever you got going on in
your life doesn't mean that text has to be more
important than what you have currently going on. So, like,
right now, I've got several seven texts I have not answered.
A bunch of them looks like from the KSR group.
But you know what, I'm doing a radio show right now,
So it's perfectly fine to not have to answer those

(40:53):
texts right away because I'm trying to do a radio
show and not answer a group text about getting Matt
Jones in the building.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yeah, and you got to digest it a little bit,
right and think about what you want to say. I
think it originally started for me when I was texting
girls and you didn't want to seem too interested, so
you didn't text.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Back right away.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, you gave them like, you know, let's let's wait
a week then text.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
The well double the amount of time that they wait
to text you, and then oh, essentually, you guys aren't
texting each other because you're just waiting on the other
person to text, and so it's a slippery stale.

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