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July 30, 2024 • 27 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, good morning, Welcome to the public Affairs show of
your favorite iHeartRadio station right here in Seattle. I'm your host,
Lee Callahan, and today we're going to talk about wealth building,
wealth building equity with my very special guests. I've got
Mark Monroe, managing partner from the culture that's right here
in Seattle. And i have got Joeln GC, founder CEO

(00:25):
of the Come Up Series. And we'll get to this
in a minute. First, Lady of Leisure okay.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
And it's co founder because it was with Mark. Two okay, yeah,
both of you.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
The come Up Series.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
She's a star. She's a star.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I love the story behind this. I don't know how
you guys met, but I know what you all talk
about on your YouTube series, the come Up Series, and
that is building wealth, investing in the stock market, doing
things that terrify me and have stopped me unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh oh well, hopefully we could possibly fix that.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It'd be great. But what you've got going on this
weekend is a summit at the University of Washington, And
can you tell me who you are reaching out to
in the community.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, So it's called the Tech, Innovation and Wealth Summit.
It's focused towards underrepresented groups that normally don't literally get
to participate in wealth building, as well as in the
space of building tech, like for example, whether it's people
of color, especially black and brown people, and of course women.

(01:37):
So we wanted to create the space in which that
conversations can be had and on top of that, like
and what we mean by conversations that need to be
had not the simple fluff stuff that you normally get
at most conferences where it's like they just say, what
is you know, the right answer? We want to hear
the facts. We want the actual true information. We want

(02:01):
what are the action steps that these individuals need to
take after the event that they can go apply on
Monday morning. So that's literally the focus of the summit.
Information that you gather today that you can literally start
applying tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, give me a four example I get somebody comes
in with like, yeah, somebody, I'll.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Give two different examples. I'll give you two different examples.
Example one, let's take the first the person on the
stock market. Right, so I know very little about the
stock market or what I watch on CNBC, but it
just seems so foreign to me.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, now you're going to be in a room.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
With individuals that represent Wall Street, so folks that give
their their their thesis on Wall Street, and they will
literally break it down for everybody. And you can also
ask these individuals questions. These are the same individuals that
companies pay fifty one hundred thousand dollars just to sit
down and have conversations with that are right there that
you can literally shake their hand and ask them questions

(03:00):
and then they will give you data and knowledge that
you can literally go tomorrow and say, Okay, hey, based
upon the conversation that I had with this individual or
with these individuals at the event, Okay, this is how
I put together my plan for investing and go on
my journey. On the startup side, you're going to be
sitting in the room with former founders and venture capitalists

(03:20):
and also folks that are like literally in the process
you get to hear how what is their thesis of
putting together a strong product and how is that you
build a service. And then from there they're also going
to give you actionable steps of how is it that
every like what makes a successful startup? Wow, So those
are the things in which that we're looking at, Like
I said, information today action tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's great, and that's going on this weekend and today
it wraps up.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Now, also in the community, will you be doing more
of these wonderful summits on tech and wealth building?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's the goal, right, that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, this is our first one.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
We're really excited about it in we hope to get
all of the we're got all the kinks now so
that next year you can do it again and on
a larger scale.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
And you sold this one out.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's sold out.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, nicely done.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Shockingly, we saw that we literally started planning this event.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
What February was that four months ago ago.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Literally four months and then people did anything that we
could put it together, and we literally pulled this together.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
And now it's sold out.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
That's so great. So what are your contacts in the
community or outside of the greater Seattle area. Who are
these giants probably f tech and wealth building that are
coming here, who are giving up themselves.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, so there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
So you got Mark Mahaney from evercore is I, Anthony
Jakumba of lup Capital representing the Wall Street side. You
got Christopher Bush and Christian Matetua that they focus on
hedge fund and also wealth management. And then on the
startup side you got Sam Dor from Madrona Venture Labs
right here.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Homegrown Madrona drawn Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
And then of course we have other individuals like, for example,
Michelle Roberts from Google and Nakisha Griffin from Microsoft and
many other players that are willing to give up their time.
And then of course people traveling in and out that
are just willing to just give up their time and
their knowledge to share with.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
People because they know how important it is to have
everybody on the same footing.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and they many of them who
Mark hasn't shared yet have come from his knowing them
from his time as a VC.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Tell so pretty much I ran as a silent VC.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I got the silent.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Part, so I just didn't I didn't publicize.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I didn't really do a lot of public publicizing, you know,
like most a lot of your deals you'll hear about
in geek Wire and tech Crunch and all those other things.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I didn't do that. You know.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
After my startup journey came to a successful exit, you know,
I literally just said, you know what, I want to
fly onto the radar and help startups build and give
them the necessary equity that they needed to help them
reach roads of success. And after running it silently thanks
to someone over here to my left, it kind of

(06:18):
pulled me out of the shadows, so to speak, to
like literally become more public and more vocal, but you know,
really just building those great relationships within the community, whether
it's startups, whether it's other investors in the space, building
those great relationships with people and ultimately trying to culminate
those to bring it into this space.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, and you must have been pulled in a direction
of like, hey, I've made it. I am an African
American gentleman, and I want to let everybody know that
this is possible available to you too, just because it
doesn't look like it's available. But how did you get
to the point where I was public, no even public,

(07:00):
but even as a silent you're like, I'm gonna do
this thing. How'd you get your education?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
So I got my education from the School of Hard
Knocks and then also a little bit of spend my
time at Tuskegee. I studied marketing and communication there. But
my startup journey really got kicked off really post school,
and honestly, I've always been a person within the entrepreneurial

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space because of my grandfather.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
He was an entrepreneur.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
This man worked at Boeing, then he also had a band,
and then on top of that, he had a stock club,
and then of course he just advised a ton of
other businesses in our community. And I sat back and
learned from him from day one and said, okay.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hey, I like that. I like that.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I like that I would I would do this differently.
And pretty much from there it just kept blossoming, from
helping a civil engineering and helping a civil engineering firm
start right before the like the great Recession of our time,
and then literally going from that to back to the

(08:08):
tech space, which I've always loved, and then going through
that process of literally struggling with my own startup back
in the day of trying to get yes is from
venture capitalists, and I realized the challenge is there, and
I said, you know what, I don't want to see
other founders experience the same type of troubles that I
had to experience. So what is it that I can

(08:30):
do with the tools and the resources that I have
to make it better?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
How is it that I leave it better than the
way that it found me. And that's why I just
kind of like just flew under the radar. You know,
a lot of my network would ultimately bring deals my way.
And ultimately, you know, either if even if I gave
him nos, I gave him the best advice and if
I said yes, I still try to give it the
best advice.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So Joe and GCI is also in the studio and
she with Mark Munroe, my other guest. They are the
founders and CEOs of the Come Up Series and they've
got a wonderful summit going on this weekend up at
you Dub. Are you from the Culture too?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yes, I actually am a silent partner from the Culture
is the parent company of the come Up Series. I
am the gCO of the Come Up Series. GCEO is
the stands for Galactic Catalysts elevating others. I wanted something
different than just CEO because I didn't necessarily fit with

(09:32):
my ideas of a CEO seem really stuffy, and I
was like, you know what if I need to define
this for myself. And so the GC in my name
stands for galactic catalysts. If you ask the government, they'll
tell you something else. But it's gc for a reason,
galactic catalysts, and I'm the galactic catalyst elevating others in

(09:53):
this line of work.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Because you know what it is to have been lifted yourself.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I do know what it's like to be lifted.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Looking on your LinkedIn and it says that you are
the oh, the.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
First Lady of leisure. Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
First?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
It says you are the first Lady of leisure. And
before we started talking formally we were I was getting
caught up at what that meant to you.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Yeah, so you know, I am of the philosophy that
as a black woman, my ancestors labored enough, and so
it now it's time for leisure. And not leisure in
the sense of just relaxing, but leisure in the sense of, well,
I guess it could be relaxing, relaxing into yourself, relaxing
into who you know yourself to be, when all obstacles,

(10:43):
when all fears are just not there anymore, and you
can utilize your gifts and talents and your skills and
think about like, what are you going to contribute?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Who are you?

Speaker 5 (10:53):
And from that position, what will you contribute to this world?
What will be your legacy. And so that's what I
mean when I say, first lady at leisure right on.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So, at what point in your life did you go,
I need to get on a level playing field with
folks who know how to build wealth.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Oh okay, So you know, actually, I think it started
from my days as a criminal prosecuting attorney down at
King County. I left that because what was happening was
that I kept having to prosecute people from my neighborhood,
people I grew up with. And they never tell you
when you're going to be a prosecutor. They never tell

(11:35):
you how hard it is to be in that position.
When you are from the community and now you are
prosecuting the community. It's a huge conflict. Oftentimes I had
to be recused because I knew the individual that I
was supposed to prosecute, or I knew their family or
what have you. And that's just what happens when you
are embedded in the community. Born and raised in Seattle,

(11:55):
so you know that sort of thing happens. But I
left because I thought to myself, there has to be
a different way. There has to be something else I
can do to even prevent some of the things that
I was seeing on the initial side of the school
to prison pipeline. And so I left and started thinking through, like, Okay,

(12:18):
who am I? Because law was just a function of
something I could do. It wasn't my identity. Despite family members,
some family members being really upset that I was no
longer an attorney, they couldn't brag about it anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know. The main person that had my back was
my mom.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
My mom said, as long as you're happy, I don't
care what it is that you do, who you decide
to be, as long as you're happy.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
And especially getting some flat because of the investment.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Oh yeah, it cost a lot of men. My mom
was the one that invested the most.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And then she was the coolest, and she was the coolest.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
The absolute shout out to my mom.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
And I thought to myself, I need to What does
it look like to just do whatever I want to do?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
And I started thinking through if I did use my
gifts and talents, you know, could I monetize this?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
If I use my gifts and talents, I'm not going
to be you know, on the street. How is this
going to work?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
If I don't have the cushion of you know, bat
law checks, and I decided it doesn't matter. I'm going
to lean into my biggest passion at the time, it
was art. So I leaned into art, became an a
work running artist and curator, and I was like, Oh,
that's fun. But I started recognizing the inequities in art.
I started noticing that young black and emerging artists without

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gallery representation, we're not breaking through. We're not getting awards,
we're not having the kind of support they needed to
break through.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And so I started thinking.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
About how I can use technology to or leverage technology
to rem need those inequities. And then I had this
idea that had a lot to do with you know,
augmented reality and all these things. And I called uh,
Mark and I said, Mark, I need you to just
hear me out.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Listen to this idea.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Am I on the right track because I have zero
tech background, I just have ideas. And Mark told me
that I that it was a great idea. So I
hit the pavement. I started talking to all these investors
and I got told no about nine times, and it
was kind of the no's were like, oh, the way
my portfolio was said. You know, I don't know that

(14:35):
much about art. This is a great idea, but I
don't feel comfortable. And I didn't take it personal. I
just realized, Okay, I just got to keep asking, you know,
I got to keep going until I get the yes.
And I circle back and I told Mark an update
about all the nos, and bless Mark's heart because of
the things that he's been through in the journey and

(14:57):
just who he is as a person. Mark essentially told
me he's like, you know what, all those nos stopped today?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And I didn't know what he was talking about.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
You know, it's like, okay, Mark, and he said, I
am going to invest not only in you, but in
your idea and essentially gave me a blank check to develop.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
This idea that I had.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
And when I told him I wanted to work on
my second retirement, that's when he started teaching me how
to invest. And with that, there was a whole bunch
of other things that had to happen.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
First.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
First, I had to get in the mindset of an
investor and what does that look like? And to me,
an investor has an investor's chair, yeah, has a little notepad.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I don't know they are when they're talking about him
on the news. The investors got squeamish today, like who
felt Weirsha?

Speaker 5 (15:53):
So I got an investor's chair. It's a blue velvet chair.
It's very luxurious. I love that chair, and that's who
I would. I would embody this investor who I thought
of as an investor in this chair, and I as
Mark was teaching me how to invest. I kept an
investor's journal for a year, and that was the basis

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for all the lessons that Mark taught me. All those
lessons are embedded in the come Up series. They're broken
down to different videos, but it's all things, real things
that I had to learn.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
You started from scratch.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh, I started from scratch.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
So this summit that's going on this weekend.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Tech, tech, innovation and wealth YEP, that is.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
What people like Joe Linn are coming to and saying,
I have an idea. I don't know about business plans,
I don't know about getting investors. I don't even know
the tech side of making this something I really want
to do. Yeah, and you can help them.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, I mean that's the ultimate objective.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's like, you know, when we think about ideas, right,
like doesn't matter where a person comes from if the
idea is good, then the idea is good. And like
all ideas, I always tell every single one of our founders,
don't worry.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
All ideas start off as.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Ugly, but then the more that you keep working on
the idea, then it starts to become beautiful for everybody
else to see. And then when it's a finished product,
and then that's when everybody sees, oh, well, this is amazing,
this is wonderful. So one of the cool things that
to kind of like put people into that mindset is

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we're actually hosting a hackathon at the event and it's
open to everybody, so you don't have to already have
a startup or anything like that. You just literally just
get to become a part of that, even if it's
just for a small session or a small moment in time.
But we're really where you have an idea and the
goal is to kind of flush out that idea of
how does this solve a problem? And then what's the

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solution that we can present and then let's pitch it.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Wow, solving a problem.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's like, you know, the key ingredient towards all successful
startups is that they're solving a problem. Yeah, like, you know,
there's a problem that's strong enough, that's within a space
that makes people angry that ultimately that they just say, Okay, hey,
does this stop me from getting my day done or
whatever it is that I need to do to be
successful that today. You know, if there's something that like

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literally impedes that progress, then that's a problem. And nine
times out of ten, if it's impeding that person's process,
then it's probably going to be impeding other people's process.
So now it's just a matter of Okay, how do
I put together a solution that doesn't create extra barriers,
but that releases the barriers and stops the blockers for

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people to flourish and move forward successfully.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I've got Joel and GC yes, and I have got
Mark Monroe from the Culture and the Come Up series,
and this weekend they've got a very cool make money
Learn About Technology summit going on? Was your first project
the art? Did that solve a problem for people?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
It did solve a problem for people.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
The problem and the people specifically were emerging artists.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, you're going to help them get onto a level
playing field.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Well, the ability to create your own gallery your own
walls using augmented reality.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
The idea or it could be anywhere.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It could be anywhere.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Come visit my.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Gallery just by literally opening it up in the application,
and then from opening up the application, the gallery just
literally fills the space.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh my god, brilliant you thought of that I did.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
With no tech background? Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
That is lovely. That is really great. Okay. It does
solve a problem. It does solve a problem, and it
also makes art available to people who don't see it
all the time.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Anyway, you've got this summit, you filled it up, you
sold it out. Yes, but can people like come to
you too and say help me personally?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I mean I'm pretty open.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. Our dms stay flooded. I
bet they are always flooded. I do my best to
get back to people.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I do, I really do.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
But the best place to stay in contact really would
be through the Come Up series because on YouTube, because
if there's a question and we're going through all the questions,
that might be the next show.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah that's great, so start watching back. How long we've
been doing this series of.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Four years, four three and a half years worth of
content good for you. So we even created a playlist
for folks that were like literally getting started, called the
starter Pack, because we realize that, Okay, there's gonna be
people that are continue to keep coming to our channel,
but they're gonna probably be starting from scratch and they're
gonna kind of feel like a little bit left out.
So Joelne came out with this great idea to say, Okay, hey,

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we'll put together a starter pack for them. So it's
like our best episodes that literally helped new and incoming
investors or people trying to understand the markets. And then
essentially from there they can literally just get caught up
to speed and then if they want to just watch
the other video content then they can. And then I
think our final year that we kind of like before

(21:17):
we started working on the Summit, we did executive education
where we went from not only just talking about the markets,
but like it was literally like a one year's worth
of an NBA course.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
For free, for free, no kidding.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
The Come Up series is like one free.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
One of our values is generosity.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
It really is. Yeah, that's great, So no subscription.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
You could just subscribe for free, there's but there's no
like you know, paywall just to get exclusive content or
anything like that. Yeah, we just do it for the
love of the sport, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah. So I've heard a great example from you, Jolan,
about your idea and how it came to fruition. Can
you tell me somebody who didn't have a a background
in law, who didn't get that experience, who maybe doesn't
even know about this world, who is either a female

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or black or brown? What is it society? This is
kind of a heavy question, but what is society sort
of inhibited them from getting this?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Will?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I know?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Well, if I'm understanding your question, it's like, what were
the stops? Like why, I mean, throw any word in
ad ism after that?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's the isms, it is saw the isms.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
But the key thing is to this, especially for this weekend,
if you're just coming and starting, suspend those isms and
allow yourself to be whoever it is you see yourself,
to be your future self. Bring your future self to
the summit. It's nice and think big. And as you're

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doing that, you don't have to have the great idea.
Maybe the great idea doesn't come until you know, next week,
next year, But starting to work that muscle and participating
in the hakathon with someone else who doesn't know what
they're doing, they don't have the background. This is all
about the opportunity to just imagine what if, what could be?

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And I think even if you don't have an idea,
I think the seeds will be planted and it'll blossom later.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, because you need to be around people that inspire you. Yes,
you are also thinking to get your juices and everything
bubbling up exactly. That's great. Is there anything you would
like to add to this conversation that I have not hit.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
On, Like, there's so many things that are going through
my mind. I think the thing that I would say
that I'd like to add is that you know, we
put this event on and even though it was like
it started in February of us doing the planning, you know,
we did this like literally as a grassroots event, like

(24:05):
there was you know, we're not heavily corporate sponsored for
this event.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
This year. We did it for that.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
We did it for the love of you know, the
people and also what we envision as the bigger vision,
So for folks that are attending or for folks that
you know, even if you weren't able to attend, but
you've heard about it, but if you're thinking about it
for the future, you know, the biggest thing is is
that we want you to dream big and also aim big,

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like that's the that's the main thing, you know, don't
let anything stop you. And even when you're thinking big,
I always tell people you're sometimes thinking still too small.
So you know, honestly, I'm excited for for what is
going to take place and for what we'll have transpired
at this event. I know that it's going to be magic,

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and I think that the biggest thing is I guess
my only goal is I'd love to see a startup
funded at the event, Like a founder that comes to
the event, meets a venture capitalists and ultimately they get
their term sheets on. I'd love for you know, someone
that literally, you know, got inspired, either a college kid
or even or of somebody's parent or whomever else. They

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got inspired and started their journey from the summit, and
then ultimately that began their wealth journey. You know, wealth
comes in many different forms and fashions. The only difference
is is that you know, wealth is something that is built.
Riches can be taken, but wealth is ultimately something that
sustains and legacy is ultimately after you're gone. So you know,
those are the things in which that we hope that

(25:39):
people pick up from the event, and that as we
continue to keep doing these events in the future, we
hope that that hits the mark every time.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
I just want to say one thing, we are I
need to preface this by saying, there is a sense
of urgency when it comes to wealth building. We've sat
back and not been able to have access for far
too long. We are at the perfect time right now,
especially giving this the fact that we are on the
ground floor of the next technological wave exactly, this is

(26:09):
the perfect time with the implementation of Web three point
zero and this.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Sort of artificial intelligence.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Artificial intelligence and the opening up of the market, so
to speak, a new frontier. Now is the time to
even learn about what's going on. You just get a
hold of one piece of knowledge and chew on that
for a minute, and then add another piece of knowledge.
This is the time because this is where the next
millionaires will be made.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
And why not you? Why not?

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I mean, it's a thirty five trillion dollar wealth transfer.
That's the that's the next frontier. It's a thirty five
trillion dollar wealth transfer like and I know that that's
a big number to really put it into perspective, but
you have to look at like, what does you know,
the next folks that literally create things using AI? What
does the world look like with the next set of
creators that build using AI? What does that look like?

(27:04):
Or what does what does main street services look like?
What does agriculture look like? What does retail look like?
What does healthcare look like? What does all these different
services that we literally take for granted in our everyday life,
you know, what do those things look like? And so
that's why I said it's a thirty five trillion dollar
wealth transfer, not only just on the startup side, but

(27:24):
also on the publicly traded market side, because one day
they will probably either be possibly gobbled up by one
of the big conglomerate companies or essentially they may be
the next company that rings the bell in the Nasdaq
or the NYC.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I want to thank you Mark Monroe and Joeln gc,
co founders of the Come Up Series and from the
culture check out the Come Up Series on YouTube. Definitely
I'm going there. Thank you both so much.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Thank you
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