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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Master's tease Off tomorrow at Augusta, and Matt Shoulders
is here to talk about it with us. Of course,
he hosts Alma Land Hoops Saturday during basketball season and
works for Alan Lima Leadership in the chamber. But of
course he's also a longtime golf maven Right, Matthew.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'd say a golf officionado, I'd okay. I like golf. Yeah, indeed, indeed.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Of course, for twenty plus years you were one of
the main movers and shakers with the City Tournament. And
we'll talk about that a little bit coming up here,
even though you're not officially on the board as per se,
but as far as the Masters goes, of course, even
people that don't like golf like the Masters because of
all the attendant pomp and circumstance and history and that
(00:46):
kind of thing. And I guess some of that has changed.
I was reading stuff that they a hurricane I think
last summer took down some of the trees. So the
veterans of the Masters say it looks a lot different.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I always joke with the former head professional, Steve Maulka
at Shawnee Country Club, and he's not at the University
of finlay about resources and if there's a place in
America that has resources, it's the Master. So I was
listening to Phil Mickelson, you know, just a little clip.
I think this was last week, and he just said
(01:19):
that a tree fell on number ten fairway when he
was playing and he was past that and then by
the time he look back, they had like a hundred people.
The tree was gone. The tree, you know, the tree
was basically gone from you know, within like twenty minutes.
All the branches were sawed off. And so they have resources,
(01:39):
and you know, they have an incredible, uh infrastructure of
golf there. I mean, there's sub heating systems there, there's
you know, drainage systems that we would not have no
idea what those are. But it's to be able to
get the water out quickly. And you know, just a
few days ago there was quite a bit of water
on that golf course. So and it teas up tomorrow morning.
(02:02):
It'll be interesting to see. They'll have it in perfect shape.
And it looks like it looks like a really good week.
It looks like mid sixties, mid seventies, that type of
weather that will be very and sunny, so it'll be
very very nice for Masters Week.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So the other thing about golf the last couple of years,
it's been rankled by this.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Live golf deal.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, but there's been somewhat of a detante there with
the live golf. Players can play in the PGA event
and vice versa without being outcast.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right, Well, they can play in the major championships. They
can't play in the PGA Tour events at this point,
but they can play in They could play at the Masters.
They can play in the PGA Championship, the US Open
and the Open, and so they can do that. And
the good news is is they will be there for
(02:56):
the Masters. And you know, you have names like Bryce
and d Chambeau who is always entertaining to watch, Brooks Kopka,
who's a four time major champion, Cam Smith, Joqe Neeman,
Sergio Garcia, former Masters champ. So you'll see some of
that infused within this week, and I think that's a
(03:17):
good thing. You're right, there is some deton there the
Saudi's and the PGA Tour. I think the PGA Tour
right now, which didn't maybe a year ago, maybe a
year and a half ago, the PGA Tour now has
the leverage because they're thriving, their ratings are way up,
their game is in really good shape, and you know,
the fact of the matter is live. Here's the bottom line.
(03:38):
Fifty four holes shotguns start, you're not playing seventy two holes.
It'll be interesting to see how that plays itself out
with the results. And although Bryce and d Chambeau won
the US Open at Pinehurst last year, they've not had
a ton of folks in the top five in the
top ten competing. And if you just look at that,
(03:59):
Can Parrison the PGA Tour has had that I think
I think Tim Finchham thinks he has or uh, the
current commissioner has the has the leverage right now to
be able to form some type of partnership and we'll
see how that works out.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, it's interesting you say that on a hand, by
the way, Yeah, that's who you were trying to think of,
not the former commissioner. But it's sort of akin, I
think to what the A B A BA did to
the NBA, what the AFL did to the NFL. It
sort of seems like it's heading down that road. But
I guess that that's for a future discussion. But when
(04:35):
it comes to Augusta, you know, and when it comes
to any tournament, you got to start with Scottie Scheffler,
you do, I mean, is he has he reached Probably
not the level of dominance of like Tiger if he
just does it for nine more years, But I mean
in a short run, has he been Tiger esque? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, for sure. I mean an amazing, an amazing year.
Last year he cut his hand this Christmas, uh, you know,
like cutting up some food at Christmas time, and he
sliced his He sliced one of his fingers and so
he had a little bit of a setback there. He's
an amazing golfer. He's an incredible what golfers call ball strikers,
(05:14):
meaning you know, he's a guy who he's never going
to be out of it because he hits the ball
so well. He's a guy that could probably hit seventeen
of eighteen greens and if he shoots just a couple
under par, that's a bad day because he's a really
good chipper and putter. But all that being said, he's
a plus four hundred Scotti Scheffler. He's the favorite. If
(05:37):
he wins this Masters, he would win three or four
and the only other candidate to do that, and the
only other participants Jack Nicholas. So he's in high high regard.
And you know, Masters is like Augusta. Todd is like
any is like nothing else, which is the past meets
the present more than any other sport like that because
(06:00):
Jack Nicholas. I read this recently that Jack Nicholas who
won in eighty six at age forty six, and Tiger
won in twenty nineteen at a very high age. That
when Tiger won in nineteen ninety seven his first win
and he blew the field away. The next year, Jack
Nicholas finished above Tiger Woods eleven years later, twelve years
(06:23):
later than when he won it in nineteen eighty six.
So past meets the present. Scheffler's the favorite. McElroy would
be at plus six point fifty. That would complete the
Grand Slam for him. And if you think about Rory
McElroy since twenty fourteen when he won the PGA Championship,
he's had thirty eight major starts, He's had four runners
(06:44):
up and no wins. Yeah, so this is I think
there's a lot of pressure there for him, but he's
playing outstanding. He won at Pebble this year he won
the Players Championship. I like both of them. If you're
kind of just picking, you know, players, I would say
those two, that's who you start with.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah. I guess with Rory the thing is he's been
right there and found a way to lose, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He lost last year at Pinehurst to Bryson d Chambeau
when it looked really good for him coming down the stretch.
And then the one that really got away was the
Open Championship with Cam Smith at Saint Andrews and it
got away from him. I mean he I think he
shot two or three under, maybe four under that day
and Cam Smith just had a remarkable day and he
(07:27):
ended up just kind of taking the trophy out of
Rory's hands. So he's had a couple of bumps there,
but I think playing really well at the signature event
at Pebble, winning that and then winning at a huge field,
which is kind of the fifth major, the Players Championship,
winning that, he's in the best form that he's been
in for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Matt Childers is with us as we preview the Masters,
which te's off tomorrow. How about a couple of second
tier picks and then a dark horse or two.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, so I like just at Augusta because some of
the old names just resurface. Jordan Speith would be plus
three point thirty or three thousand, three hundred, So when
you compare that to Scotti Scheffler, he's almost three thousand
dollars ahead of that, so that would be a great bet,
a great value bet. Jordan Speith won there in twenty
(08:14):
fifteen and he's back, so I would think about him.
I think about maybe Tommy Fleetwood, who finished in the
top ten last year and had a really good run
at Augusta. I like his game at Augusta. And maybe
Corey Connors. He's a former Kent State Hall of Famer
and he's a Canadian that is plus seventy five hundred,
(08:35):
and I like him just from the standpoint that he's
always always in the mix, in the top ten on
the tour. And then the other name is Ludwig Oberg,
who's plus sixteen hundred. He would be a little less
than a dark horse, but he finished second last year,
so think about him as well. And then when you
think about live, you got Bryson at plus two thousand,
(08:57):
Brooks minus I'm sorry, plus three thousand, Cam Smith, that
could be a good value. Sixty five hundred. Those three
right there come to mind.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, Matt, let's look ahead a little bit to the
summer times. We want to plug the City Golf Championship
and that's coming up late June now, right, Yes, they've
moved it several years ago, and the interest level, the
participation levels have been inching up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right, Yeah, I mean I would tell you this. I
volunteered on the committee the board for twenty two years
and have not been involved for about three years now.
But Scott Geyer, Matt Metzger, Tyler Bridenball, Asa Donaldson, the
head golf professional at Shawnee, Andy mcgreeby, those guys do
an outstanding job. And it'll be this year. It'll be
(09:42):
starting on Wednesday, June twenty fifth, and then go all
the way. The completion will be Sunday, June twenty ninth
at Shawnee Country Club. And if you'd like to get
into it, if you go that early bird special, it's
seventy dollars for the rounds of golf that you get
in eighty otherwise, if the round of golf, or if
you pay after June sixth, and that includes your carts,
(10:03):
and that includes lunch Wednesday through Friday. So not a
whole lot of golf tournaments running around Northwest Ohio where
you get lunch, you get the carts, and you get
a play golf for a few days for seventy dollars.
It's an outstanding job that Scott and Matt and the
crew have done throughout the years, and they've really put
it back in a really good position. You know, way
(10:24):
back when when Dick Sugar and Jimmy Carter and I
were involved in it, we would come on the radio
here at at eleven fifty WIMA and we talk about
the previews and so forth, and there'd be about two
hundred participants in it. And now there's probably one hundred
and forty, one hundred and sixty, and so that's really good,
especially in a day and age when the society's changed
(10:45):
and not everybody can get off work for that many days,
and not everybody can do that with family responsibilities and
so forth. So they've done an outstanding job. And it's
always a staple. It's our major, you know. It's like
the guys like that I run around with. Everybody loves it.
Talks about it, and it's just a great week for
Lima Land Golf.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, if there are golfers out there who want to
inquire about how to get in, just go to the
website limacitygolf dot com and that will get you started.
And like Matt said, it's a great value. If nothing else,
not to mention the competition, yes, and the fun you'll have. Matt,
great to talk with you. We always look forward to
the Masters. It's an event unlike any other.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is right. Thank you Todd, appreciate it.
The Master's tease Off tomorrow at Augusta, and Matt Shoulders
is here to talk about it with us. Of course,
he hosts Alma Land Hoops Saturday during basketball season and
works for Alan Lima Leadership in the chamber. But of
course he's also a longtime golf maven Right, Matthew.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'd say a golf officionado, I'd okay. I like golf. Yeah, indeed, indeed.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Of course, for twenty plus years you were one of
the main movers and shakers with the City Tournament. And
we'll talk about that a little bit coming up here,
even though you're not officially on the board as per se,
but as far as the Masters goes, of course, even
people that don't like golf like the Masters because of
all the attendant pomp and circumstance and history and that
(00:46):
kind of thing. And I guess some of that has changed.
I was reading stuff that they a hurricane I think
last summer took down some of the trees. So the
veterans of the Masters say it looks a lot different.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I always joke with the former head professional, Steve Maulka
at Shawnee Country Club, and he's not at the University
of finlay about resources and if there's a place in
America that has resources, it's the Master. So I was
listening to Phil Mickelson, you know, just a little clip.
I think this was last week, and he just said
(01:19):
that a tree fell on number ten fairway when he
was playing and he was past that and then by
the time he look back, they had like a hundred people.
The tree was gone. The tree, you know, the tree
was basically gone from you know, within like twenty minutes.
All the branches were sawed off. And so they have resources,
(01:39):
and you know, they have an incredible, uh infrastructure of
golf there. I mean, there's sub heating systems there, there's
you know, drainage systems that we would not have no
idea what those are. But it's to be able to
get the water out quickly. And you know, just a
few days ago there was quite a bit of water
on that golf course. So and it teas up tomorrow morning.
(02:02):
It'll be interesting to see. They'll have it in perfect shape.
And it looks like it looks like a really good week.
It looks like mid sixties, mid seventies, that type of
weather that will be very and sunny, so it'll be
very very nice for Masters Week.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So the other thing about golf the last couple of years,
it's been rankled by this.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Live golf deal.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, but there's been somewhat of a detante there with
the live golf. Players can play in the PGA event
and vice versa without being outcast.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right, Well, they can play in the major championships. They
can't play in the PGA Tour events at this point,
but they can play in They could play at the Masters.
They can play in the PGA Championship, the US Open
and the Open, and so they can do that. And
the good news is is they will be there for
(02:56):
the Masters. And you know, you have names like Bryce
and d Chambeau who is always entertaining to watch, Brooks Kopka,
who's a four time major champion, Cam Smith, Joqe Neeman,
Sergio Garcia, former Masters champ. So you'll see some of
that infused within this week, and I think that's a
(03:17):
good thing. You're right, there is some deton there the
Saudi's and the PGA Tour. I think the PGA Tour
right now, which didn't maybe a year ago, maybe a
year and a half ago, the PGA Tour now has
the leverage because they're thriving, their ratings are way up,
their game is in really good shape, and you know,
the fact of the matter is live. Here's the bottom line.
(03:38):
Fifty four holes shotguns start, you're not playing seventy two holes.
It'll be interesting to see how that plays itself out
with the results. And although Bryce and d Chambeau won
the US Open at Pinehurst last year, they've not had
a ton of folks in the top five in the
top ten competing. And if you just look at that,
(03:59):
Can Parrison the PGA Tour has had that I think
I think Tim Finchham thinks he has or uh, the
current commissioner has the has the leverage right now to
be able to form some type of partnership and we'll
see how that works out.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, it's interesting you say that on a hand, by
the way, Yeah, that's who you were trying to think of,
not the former commissioner. But it's sort of akin, I
think to what the A B A BA did to
the NBA, what the AFL did to the NFL. It
sort of seems like it's heading down that road. But
I guess that that's for a future discussion. But when
(04:35):
it comes to Augusta, you know, and when it comes
to any tournament, you got to start with Scottie Scheffler,
you do, I mean, is he has he reached Probably
not the level of dominance of like Tiger if he
just does it for nine more years, But I mean
in a short run, has he been Tiger esque? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, for sure. I mean an amazing, an amazing year.
Last year he cut his hand this Christmas, uh, you know,
like cutting up some food at Christmas time, and he
sliced his He sliced one of his fingers and so
he had a little bit of a setback there. He's
an amazing golfer. He's an incredible what golfers call ball strikers,
(05:14):
meaning you know, he's a guy who he's never going
to be out of it because he hits the ball
so well. He's a guy that could probably hit seventeen
of eighteen greens and if he shoots just a couple
under par, that's a bad day because he's a really
good chipper and putter. But all that being said, he's
a plus four hundred Scotti Scheffler. He's the favorite. If
(05:37):
he wins this Masters, he would win three or four
and the only other candidate to do that, and the
only other participants Jack Nicholas. So he's in high high regard.
And you know, Masters is like Augusta. Todd is like
any is like nothing else, which is the past meets
the present more than any other sport like that because
(06:00):
Jack Nicholas. I read this recently that Jack Nicholas who
won in eighty six at age forty six, and Tiger
won in twenty nineteen at a very high age. That
when Tiger won in nineteen ninety seven his first win
and he blew the field away. The next year, Jack
Nicholas finished above Tiger Woods eleven years later, twelve years
(06:23):
later than when he won it in nineteen eighty six.
So past meets the present. Scheffler's the favorite. McElroy would
be at plus six point fifty. That would complete the
Grand Slam for him. And if you think about Rory
McElroy since twenty fourteen when he won the PGA Championship,
he's had thirty eight major starts, He's had four runners
(06:44):
up and no wins. Yeah, so this is I think
there's a lot of pressure there for him, but he's
playing outstanding. He won at Pebble this year he won
the Players Championship. I like both of them. If you're
kind of just picking, you know, players, I would say
those two, that's who you start with.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah. I guess with Rory the thing is he's been
right there and found a way to lose, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He lost last year at Pinehurst to Bryson d Chambeau
when it looked really good for him coming down the stretch.
And then the one that really got away was the
Open Championship with Cam Smith at Saint Andrews and it
got away from him. I mean he I think he
shot two or three under, maybe four under that day
and Cam Smith just had a remarkable day and he
(07:27):
ended up just kind of taking the trophy out of
Rory's hands. So he's had a couple of bumps there,
but I think playing really well at the signature event
at Pebble, winning that and then winning at a huge field,
which is kind of the fifth major, the Players Championship,
winning that, he's in the best form that he's been
in for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Matt Childers is with us as we preview the Masters,
which te's off tomorrow. How about a couple of second
tier picks and then a dark horse or two.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, so I like just at Augusta because some of
the old names just resurface. Jordan Speith would be plus
three point thirty or three thousand, three hundred, So when
you compare that to Scotti Scheffler, he's almost three thousand
dollars ahead of that, so that would be a great bet,
a great value bet. Jordan Speith won there in twenty
(08:14):
fifteen and he's back, so I would think about him.
I think about maybe Tommy Fleetwood, who finished in the
top ten last year and had a really good run
at Augusta. I like his game at Augusta. And maybe
Corey Connors. He's a former Kent State Hall of Famer
and he's a Canadian that is plus seventy five hundred,
(08:35):
and I like him just from the standpoint that he's
always always in the mix, in the top ten on
the tour. And then the other name is Ludwig Oberg,
who's plus sixteen hundred. He would be a little less
than a dark horse, but he finished second last year,
so think about him as well. And then when you
think about live, you got Bryson at plus two thousand,
(08:57):
Brooks minus I'm sorry, plus three thousand, Cam Smith, that
could be a good value. Sixty five hundred. Those three
right there come to mind.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, Matt, let's look ahead a little bit to the
summer times. We want to plug the City Golf Championship
and that's coming up late June now, right, Yes, they've
moved it several years ago, and the interest level, the
participation levels have been inching up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right, Yeah, I mean I would tell you this. I
volunteered on the committee the board for twenty two years
and have not been involved for about three years now.
But Scott Geyer, Matt Metzger, Tyler Bridenball, Asa Donaldson, the
head golf professional at Shawnee, Andy mcgreeby, those guys do
an outstanding job. And it'll be this year. It'll be
(09:42):
starting on Wednesday, June twenty fifth, and then go all
the way. The completion will be Sunday, June twenty ninth
at Shawnee Country Club. And if you'd like to get
into it, if you go that early bird special, it's
seventy dollars for the rounds of golf that you get
in eighty otherwise, if the round of golf, or if
you pay after June sixth, and that includes your carts,
(10:03):
and that includes lunch Wednesday through Friday. So not a
whole lot of golf tournaments running around Northwest Ohio where
you get lunch, you get the carts, and you get
a play golf for a few days for seventy dollars.
It's an outstanding job that Scott and Matt and the
crew have done throughout the years, and they've really put
it back in a really good position. You know, way
(10:24):
back when when Dick Sugar and Jimmy Carter and I
were involved in it, we would come on the radio
here at at eleven fifty WIMA and we talk about
the previews and so forth, and there'd be about two
hundred participants in it. And now there's probably one hundred
and forty, one hundred and sixty, and so that's really good,
especially in a day and age when the society's changed
(10:45):
and not everybody can get off work for that many days,
and not everybody can do that with family responsibilities and
so forth. So they've done an outstanding job. And it's
always a staple. It's our major, you know. It's like
the guys like that I run around with. Everybody loves it.
Talks about it, and it's just a great week for
Lima Land Golf.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, if there are golfers out there who want to
inquire about how to get in, just go to the
website limacitygolf dot com and that will get you started.
And like Matt said, it's a great value. If nothing else,
not to mention the competition, yes, and the fun you'll have. Matt,
great to talk with you. We always look forward to
the Masters. It's an event unlike any other.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is right. Thank you Todd, appreciate it.
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