Hour 3: Harvard pushes back

Harvard pushes back.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I hope you're having a wonderful Friday. I hope you
have a great holiday weekend. It starts off with a
just an awful story though in the Big Three today
it has happened once again as school shooting, this time
on the campus of Florida State University.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
And he turned back into his car and grabbed a pistol,
and that's when I watched him shoot the lady in
front of him and realized that he was really trying
to shoot people, and I started running.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Two people died, they were not students. Six others were wounded.
All of them are in pretty good condition, including the
shooter who was shot by police. He's identified as twenty
year old FSU student Phoenix Eichner, who is the son
of a sheriff deputy and spent years training with law enforcement.

(00:55):
And apparently he used His mother is the sheriff deputy,
and he used one of her guns. Will get more
on the FSU shooting through the show. A federal grand
jury returned a four count indictment against accused healthcare assassed
in Luigi Mangioni, and Attorney General Pam Bondi says yes

(01:15):
they are seeking the death penalty.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
If there was ever a death case, this is one.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
This guy is charged with hunting down a CEO, a
father of two, a married man, hunting him down and
executing him.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
The Trump administration now says it has eighteen countries who
have called willing to make a deal amid threats of
a tariff war, and that includes China.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Boy, you think there won't be of course, there'll be
a trade deal very much.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
They want to make one, very very much, And we're
going to make a trade deal.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I fully expected, but it'll be a fair deal. New
Jersey is suing the popular gaming social media site called
Discord for not protecting children.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Discord has been at the center of numerous criminal cases
involving predators that were found to have used the app
to engage in sexual grooming, extortion, and exploitation.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well have more on this lawsuit and Discord and explain
what it does coming up at nine o'clock. But in
the meantime, let's get to Rick Klin, ABC News Washington
Bureau Chief. There is so much to talk about this week,
including Harvard University. You know told the Trump administration it

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wasn't going to comply with its demands, and I know
Rick Klin is going to be talking about that. I
think Rick that this is surprised a lot of people
because it seemed like university after university, especially Columbia University
to start it off, gave in to the demands because
they needed the money. I guess Harvard doesn't need two

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point two billion dollars.

Speaker 8 (02:57):
Well, they've got an adownment of fifty billion dollars, so
that that helps. They also have a lot of people
who want to Harvard Law School might be willing to
defend them in court, but but no, I think I
think lots of institutions of higher learning and institutions generally
have been very careful about this moment. We've seen all
these big law firms literally employ lots of lawyers it

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cave to Trump and say hey, you know, well, we'll
work for free for your administration in exchange for less
scrutiny of or you know, more security clearances. I think
everyone's feeling it out differently. I think though Harvard's position
does change the conversation a bit because you have the
oldest institution, maybe the most famous, and the wealthiest institution
of the country saying no, we're not going to do this.

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And it gives licensed smaller ones to try to do
the same. Harvard may be better equipped to handle it,
and we'll see how it shakes out in terms of
what it means for their for their services, and for
their admissions and for their retention. But I do think
it's a big moment when when anyone the size of
the haft of Harvard says, you know, thanks, but no
thanks for telling us how to run our places.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, well, ffty billion dollars will give you a steel spine.
So I think that they're impregnable. Smaller colleges may not
be able to be able to do this. It'll be
interesting to see if you're right, though, and how this
plays out. Let's talk a little bit about the tariffs.
The Prime Minister of Italy was in She seems she
wants to make a deal. The administration says that over
fifteen countries have called looking to make deals now, although

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those countries weren't named. He also said yesterday that China
wants to make a deal. Do you think that this
is all going to work out as he said in
three to four weeks, Well, there's been.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
No evidence of any deals actually coming close yet. And
you know, when that winter. If that happens, I think
it might be a different conversation. Right, it's so far
as to just talk. And Italy is an interesting case
study because George malonei is the Trump friendliest leader in
Western Europe, is an AU member. There have been this
twenty percent tariff. She said she doesn't like it. But
we don't have a deal for Italy or for the

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EUET either, so I think it's it's going to be
difficult to get them. I have no doubt that they'll
be able to show some progress. President said yesterday he
doesn't feel like he's particularly in a rush around these
but so far has been a lot of talk initially
saying that they were interested in deals at all, they'd
say they are interested in deals, and then actually bringing
them across the finish line inside this ninety day window

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already in the eighties for what's left. Look, maybe they'll
pull it off, but the idea that the markets will
just you know, react in a nice fashion to it,
especially when the President is suggesting that he might fire
the chairman in the Federal Reserve, it doesn't seem like
a prescription firstability. But we'll see.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
We seem like.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
We have no resolution right now in the Kill mar
Abrego Garcia case, and I think that much of that
is because of the Supreme Court. They're ruling with the
word facilitate. Is this is a CNN analyst that use
this word now I'm going to steal It is mushy

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in that it didn't tell them exactly what they needed
to do. And so when they say they just are
going to provide a plane, they're actually going they did
it very carefully. They said very carefully what they were
going to do. Then they're saying they have to release them,
but will facilitate him coming back by giving him the flight?

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Is that going to be enough?

Speaker 8 (06:19):
It's a great point. I think that you know, if
you call it muchiness, it's intentional muchinis. I think the
three in court is looking to have this diffuse without
a confrontation between the branches. They're basically asking that it
be interpreted liberally enough to just make this all happen
and make it all come to a good resolution. The
issue with the administration doesn't show hasn't given anything in
that other direction, and they're going to be pretty clearly

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going to have to be forced every step of the way.
I think the first pictures we saw of at Brego
Garcia overnight from Senator Van Holland are telling the fact
that the Salvadorans could produce him and set that up.
We're also told that they staged the photo to make
it look like they were having margarita's when there were
salt rimmed water glasses. You know, it seems that they're
they're trying to suggest they control the pr battle and

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a brio Garcia is still there in somewhere in El Salvador,
we don't know where. The President of Al Salvador said,
now that everyone knows that he's healthy, he gets the
pleasure of returning to salvadoran custody. Obviously, they could produce
him if they wanted to. President and the President of
Valvador were just together in the Oval Office just the
other day, and clearly Trump wasn't going to be pushing
him to do what the Supreme Court has said has

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to be done.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I love that you said that, because it was the
first thing I thought when I saw the picture. I said,
wait a second, All of the prisoners are in orange.
They have to have their heads down as they walk,
and their heads are shaved. This guy looks like he's
a club med So I don't know what they were
trying to do with that picture, but I think it
was just it ended up adding to the confusion of

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the whole thing.

Speaker 8 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean they put you don't see that shaved head.
They had a crisp New Kansas City. She's had guys
from Maryland's. I think he's a Ravens fan anyway. But
you know, but they were they were trying to make
this look a lot different. This was not at the prison.
It looked like they were, you know, with like the
breakfast lounge of a Holiday and Express or something. It
seemed like they were trying to make this look, you know,

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a lot, a lot nicer than his real condition suggests
Van Holland returns home today. Actually, we're gonna we're gonna
be interviewing him on Sunday morning on this week, and
you know, we'll see what his what his full account
is of of what what he said. But this is
the first we've seen him since the since the the deportation.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, he's playing a little bit of a dangerous game.
I know why he's going, but this could there could
be a lot of backlash if this doesn't go his way.

Speaker 9 (08:34):
Oh, no question.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
Look, there's you know, he's a he's a he's a constituent,
but you know he's you know, he's a he's a
suspected gang member at the last We've seen a lot
of on savory details come out about his path. But
the point Van Holland has made is like, look, whether
you think the guy is a saint or not is
beside the point. The fact is it is a fact
that he has not been found guilty of anything. He
had a judge's order that said he could not be
afforded that the US Supreme Court has found unanimously that

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it was a mistake, and the idea that that nothing
can be done is kind of kind of an offensive
notion to a lot of people who are interested in
due process and interested in how the law works.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, the Van Holland interview is a much as a
must see on this week. What else do you have
coming up?

Speaker 8 (09:17):
Yeah, we're also talking to Tom Holman. The borders are
about the about these policies going forward, and you know,
we saw the presidents say earlier this week he might
be might be thinking of a homegrown bad guys, criminals
being deported as well, so what he says about that.
And George Stephanopolis just got back from Harrisburg where he
had an exclusive interview with Joshapiro, Governor of Pensylvania, after

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that horrific firebombing or malofof cocktail attack that happened if
the Governor's mansion over passover last weekend and his reaction
to that, and where we stand as a as a society. Frankly,
after after seeing another episode of political violence, I'll.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Tell you what I saw the pictures of the governor's
mansion in Harrisburg, And when you see those pictures there
are you didn't realize how close this guy came to
an assassination and the extent of the damage.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
I mean, his whole family was there the celebrating holiday
in the middle of the night. Its fire or ruts
that quite literally could have killed he killed everyone in
that family. It's a stunning breach of security. And again,
you know, political violence in a real stark way.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And it's Josh Shapiro, who knows who knows where he's going.
So it's going to be a great show. Thanks so much.
Rick Klin, ABC News Washington Bureau Chief, have a good weekend.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
Hey, thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Are you addicted to fast food? Maybe it's just one
fast food you can't resist. We're going to talk about
the seven most addictive fast food items and tickets for
the Doobie Brothers next. Thanks so much for your talkbacks today.
I've been late in getting to them, but I'm going
to play a bunch of them right now. We had
so many different topics today, but I really did enjoy

(10:55):
talking about a story of the turkey, and I'm so
proud to say that his Storia called in morning.

Speaker 10 (11:01):
Natalie, this is a storial.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Astoria. I leave your number.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I don't speak Turkey. I don't know what he said.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
He said she she said, I want to get to
Natalie's house and meet her turkeys.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
That's what she said.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's right, you have a lot of wild turkeys at
your house.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Menandez retrial such a waste of taxpayer money.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
They knew murder was wrong.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
The reason they commit murder should have nothing to do
with the fact they committed two murders.

Speaker 11 (11:38):
They deserve to be in jail, and.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
We should have a retrial based on a TV show.
It is the silliest thing, one of the silliest things
I've ever heard edden from New Jersey.

Speaker 12 (11:50):
Yes, he's a gang member, but worse than that, he
entered his country illegally. He broke the law, not once,
not twice. I can't even count number of times he
has broken them all. And yet you can stand there
and defend this or justify that what happens to our laws?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, and he entered the country illegally. I mean, they're
going after criminals right now. But the big thing is
that he has been seen as police by ice, by
the FBI, and by two courts as being a member
of MS thirteen, and the Trump administration, whether you liked

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it or not, made them a terrorist organization, labeled them
as a terrorist organization officially, so he can be deported
just for that.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
CNN, NBC and any other news organization that censors price
conferences coming out of the White House should be barred
from access to the White House.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
These are my final thoughts today. Stick around at the
end of the show at about nine p fifty to
talk about exactly that. What he's talking about is that
the mother of the woman who was raped and killed
was at the press conference yesterday, and CNN and MSNBC
and none of the networks covered it. They cut away

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from it rather than have her on the air, which
just shows their bias. And that's what I'm going to
be talking about in my final thoughts.

Speaker 13 (13:22):
Good morning, Larry, Natalie. How is everybody? I hope you
had a great week I was just wondering if you guys,
what is your go to food for Easter? What mine
myself is spiral ham and then we make a soup
with it after. I'm just wondering what your go to is.
You guys, have a great weekend, have an amazing Easter,

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and you know, and as always, stay.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Safe, doesn't everybody do?

Speaker 9 (13:49):
Him?

Speaker 4 (13:50):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
No him right.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Well, my husband's side of the family, it's Italian, so
they usually have a ham and we do lasagna bollionnaise.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
That sounds good, it's amazing.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
And my mother in law has a fantastic recipe because
my father in law went to medical school in Bologna,
so she got it from there. And then of course
my Greek family and this year Easters are the same day,
which is unusual. We do lamb okay and spinna go
up with down pastito.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I want to go to your house.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
I know that's why the turkey wants to go to
your house?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You know he's Oh, that'd be great. He could mate
and then have a big meal afterwards. Do you have
cigarettes for him?

Speaker 11 (14:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
My lord, so real. Quickly, let's go since we said
we were going to talk about it. The most addictive
fast foods. This is according to the World Population Review.
They figured out by the way people around the world
eat fast food one to three times a week, and
that's thirty seven percent of the population eats fast food
at least once a week. All right, what's the most

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addictive fast food anybody?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
French fries?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's easy, yeah, absolutely, followed by fried chicken, followed by soda,
chocolate shakes, pizza which I thought was low on the list, cheeseburgers,
and then finally cookies. Oh I love a cookie, especially
a fast food cookie.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Now have this weekend.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Let's go to Jacqueline Carl with the nine to thirty news.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Good morning.

Speaker 14 (15:28):
Sheriff's deputy son is in custody after allegedly shooting and
killing two people and wounding five more at Florida State University.
The FSU police chief says the gunman is a current
student at the school, and people in the New York
City area are observing Good Friday today, the day Christians
believe Jesus died on the cross, leading to his resurrection
on Easter Sunday. W r's own Scott Pringle has more

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with Cardinal Timothy Dolan's Easter message.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Cardinal Timothy Dolan says, despite all of what he calls
uncertainty and confusion in the world today, Jesus always has
the last word with his resurrection on Easter Sunday.

Speaker 15 (16:04):
Gosh, you got tariffs, she got Ukraine, you got China,
and we're einger to find something that will not let
us down. Actually we need somebody, and yet God comes
through an Easter Sunday.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Dolan's message to those who only go to church for
a Holy Week in Christmas.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I hope you enjoyed as much being here as I
do haveing you here. By the way, did you like it? Well,
we do it every Sunday and come on back.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm Scoppringle wrdw's.

Speaker 14 (16:30):
All right, So it's eight thirty on Friday time for
real or fake news headlines?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Larry, are you ready?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Go ahead? I'm so glad you said eight thirty, because
I mistakenly said nine to thirty, and I want to
make sure that people didn't go. The few people that
are going into work don't go, Oh my god, I'm
late for work. So I I'm so glad you clarified
that you got it and we got it.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Now.

Speaker 14 (16:47):
Number one, there's a Colorado event for nude skiers.

Speaker 9 (16:51):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (16:52):
According to the Denver Post, boot Tanfest is an annual
event held at Sunlight Mountain Resort in Colorado, celebrating bud
positivity and inclusivity in the skiing community. It's run for
women by women.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Now.

Speaker 14 (17:07):
Number two, Therapists report increase in clients who use animal
videos as their main stress coping strategy.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yes, that's fake.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh it's fake. That seems like it would be true.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Uh it's not. Scientists say cavemen use sunscreen.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Wait a second, I use animal videos to relieve.

Speaker 14 (17:26):
But they say there's an increase in clients who use
a So obviously is that if it's their main stress
coping strategy.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Question.

Speaker 14 (17:34):
Yeah, I like to be tricky thereat. Scientists say cavemen
use sunscreen. Screen, it's true. According to the Daily Star,
a recent study published in Science Advances reveals that around
forty one years ago, Homo sapiens employed innovative survival strategies
to protect themselves from increased solar radiation. Okra, a natural

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clay pigment with sun protected propes, was used as a
form of prehistoric sunscreen. This is why survival of the fittest.
This is why we're alive right now? Okay, the way
they could know that. Yeah, and they even use their
own like there's a there's more to it, like they
use special tanning things for their cloth, for their clothes
to they protect themselves from the sun. Number four live

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scream live stream of migrating moose draws millions of views.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
True.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (18:26):
According to The New York Post, Sweden's The Great Moose
Migration has become an unexpected global sensation, captivating millions of
viewers with its tranquil, unscripted portrayal of nature and traveling moose.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
And this is a twenty four hour live stream.

Speaker 14 (18:41):
Five study finds people are more honest when typing in
lower case with no punctuation.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
False.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
It is false. I was gonna say, what do you
like when you do all caps? Because I do that
a lot.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Unfortunately, I know I'm yelling at you, and I apologize.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
How did you do, Larry? Not bad?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, but the sunscreen one? Was it?

Speaker 4 (19:03):
It was? But that's the point of this. You can't
make it easy. Did you say it was?

Speaker 14 (19:07):
Okra I, you know, maybe I didn't say it right.
Let me just look at the thing it says O
c h r H.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
There was a problem. Let's throw the question out. Thanks
the lot. Congratulations to Norma Wong from Forest Hill Queens
who just want a pair of tickets to see the
Doobie Brothers, who are touring again this year. This is
going to be a great show with Michael McDonald. I'll
go to see him by himself August seventh at the

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Purchase tickets at ticketmaster dot com and make sure you're
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Ario Speedwagon lead singer Kevin Cronin and former Eagle Don

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Felder all next week. Well, the New York City Council
is suing the mayor for helping ice pick up dangerous
criminals at Rikers Island. We'll talk with Craig McCarthy, the
City Hall bureau chief for the New York Post. About
that next, Now, let's bring in Craig McCarthy, city Hall
bureau chief at the New York Post. Craig, thanks a

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lot for joining us today. There is so much coming
out of City Hall right now, and I've noticed a
lot of it is the City Council going after Mayor Adams.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Adrian Adams,
the head of the City Council, was running against Mayor Adams.
Does she recuse herself from these actions?

Speaker 15 (20:45):
No?

Speaker 9 (20:45):
I mean so this week the City Council had fired
filed a lawsuit to challenge the executive order that Mayor
Eric Adams to note no relation between the two. Mayor
Eric Adams executive order to put ice offices back on rikers. So,
I mean, this is the this is the back and
forth from like the progressive way of the council and

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the you know, the the administration who's trying to, I guess,
walk a line and work with the Trump administration as
much as they can while staying within bounds of the
sanctuary city laws.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I understand that. I get that, and I understand why
they're doing it, I should put I should back up
for a second. I don't understand why anybody wouldn't want
to just hand over criminals to ICE at Rikers Island
so they didn't go out into the community whereas people
could get hurt. I don't get that, but I understand
that that happened. I guess what I was getting at

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is there is a mayoral election and you have the
president of the city council now using taxpayers money and
her position to go after a political opponent, and so
I would just think that there would be some that
would frown upon that, and maybe she'd be she should
be recusing herself from those actions.

Speaker 9 (22:06):
Yeah, I guess that's a good point. I think, you know,
we're all in election season right now, and I mean
we have Brad Lander, who's the city city wide controller
at this point, going after Adams on a number of things.
I mean, that role in particular is always a foil
to the mayor's office, and the same thing with the
council speaker. You know, I think it's a good question

(22:27):
to ask with these things. But I do think too
that it would if it was something out of the
bounds of something the council would do. I think that
would raise more eyebrows, right, so this isn't something that
was unexpected. I think this would probably this would most
likely ninety nine percent, most would be happening if it
was if she was not running as well. I think
the way you have to take a step back as

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reporters as look as is are they using the office
and properly to campaign? To your point? And I think
though too. I mean it's the question has been asked
of the mayor because he really isn't campaigning except for
using his office, you know, his police poulter, which is
what a lot of those sitting elected to do in
the election season.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Speaking of which, and you would know the answer to this,
what are the rules on politicking at a news conference
at city Hall? I understand that he backs off from
that a lot, and he talks about it a lot,
and then sometimes he just goes full on campaign in
the questioning is he not supposed to do that?

Speaker 9 (23:28):
It's a fine line that they have to walk here.
I mean, there's been guidance and it's hard because this
is a mayor that's not out on the campaign trail.
So the questions that come from us were pressing for
him to answer because there's nowhere else to ask of this.
I know he's been a bused certain what certain things
what he can say in I mean, yesterday, his transportation

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chief was fined seventeen fifty for promoting Kamal Harris during
the presidential campaign while at a you know, government funded rally.
So it's a little bit, you know, it's a little
bit of a gray area here. And like as reporters,
we're trying to get the answers at the same time
because this is the only place that we can get them.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
So let's talk about the campaign a little bit. How
about State Senator Jessica Ramo's making the stunning claim about
sixty seven year old Cuomo that he is suffering mental
decline and we can't afford another Joe Biden. Where did
that come from? Do you see any mental decline at all?

Speaker 9 (24:27):
And Andrew Cuomo, Well, I think the question has to
be raised. I mean, the listen, they're running a rose
garden campaign because he's the front runner, limiting appearances, limiting questions.
I the question is why, right, is it just a
tactic because of.

Speaker 14 (24:46):
It?

Speaker 9 (24:46):
Is it just a tactic because to the front runners,
they don't want to see a misstep or is there
something else also going on. I mean, after the story published,
I heard from a few different people who, you know,
kind of raise those alarms as well. They they did
say they noted back that it wasn't as far as
as Joe Biden was in the end, but you know,
and when we said on the edit board, we knew

(25:07):
we edit board meeting with the York Posts, he wrote
about it and noted that he could mix up a
few things, and and you know, he confused it free
different things. I his campaign is obviously adamantly pushing back
again such things. But it's a it's a question that
has you know, beings being asked.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well. I think if he were to get out and
do a few long TV interviews that might help a
little bit. But I had never heard that before. And
I'm surprised that you had already thought about it and
raised it because he came in to meet with you.
So you just see it because he mixes some things up.

(25:46):
I mix things up all the time. And I don't
think I'm suffering from mental decline or is there more
to it?

Speaker 9 (25:52):
So I mean, what what you know what? The state
senator also noted when she brought it up yesterday, was
that he was confusing things and couldn't answer questions or
could not recall things when he testified before the House
Oversight Committee. I mean, she's connecting some docs here and
going out on a limb with this. I think there's
also a lot of you know, campaign campaigns that are

(26:13):
struggling to try to make some headlines here. But you know,
again we have to ask the question of why is it,
why are we not getting questions? As you said, long
form TV interviews. I know we did New York one recently,
and he did an interview with a Daily Beast, but
you know he hasn't really faced on the full force
of the press cort yet.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, you're right, it's something we'll watch. Craig McCarthy, City
Hall Bureau chief at the New York Post. Thanks a lot, Craig.
Do you think New York cyclists will obey the new
bike lane red lights? WRS? Natalie Mgliori finds out and
the Beat on the Street next.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Now it's seventen w o RS.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Beat on the Street with Natalie Migliori in a city
that recently has had a slow of stupid Eyedea as
this may be the dumbest one. Street lights a little
bit lower at eye level, specifically for bikers, as if
that's going to stop them from running into us. What

(27:15):
a New Yorkers think about this? I told you what
I think. Let's get the latest from Natalie Migliori in
her Beat on the Street.

Speaker 11 (27:23):
Yeah, good morning, Larry. We should call it beat on
the Bike this morning. Now, I didn't get on the bike.
I was on the street. Pretty soon bike lists won't
be able to say they didn't see the traffic light
because the Department of Transportation is starting to install miniature
traffic lights for bike leans across the city. I say
miniature because they're smaller than a traffic light, and like

(27:47):
you said, Larry said, just about five feet above the ground,
about eye level with bicycle riders. So what do people think.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
That don't work? You got you got one for a
bike stop one the seventh and eighth. They don't stop
for that, They keep going, So, I mean I can't
stand them.

Speaker 16 (28:04):
So they don't even follow the lights for the BIC
school now, so I doubt they're gonna follow the rules.

Speaker 17 (28:10):
I mean they have the same lights already up there.
I mean they do a bide by that. I haven't
seen anybody cross those lights. I mean, well sometimes they do,
I don't think. So this is New York. Nothing will
work for the bikes.

Speaker 18 (28:21):
They will be a scourge on this city for the
next twenty five years. And there's nothing the city's gonna
do about it.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
Not even the lights. But the first one isn't ready
up and running on sixty ninth Street and Third Avenue
and Officialcy. The plan is to put more up across
the city, but a lot of people say that's not enough,
especially for drivers.

Speaker 18 (28:43):
There's gotta be some new laws enacted, some new ordinances enacted,
something to curb what's going on with these bikes right now,
because they're flying. You know, you step off a curb,
you're taking your life into your hands.

Speaker 16 (28:55):
The bicycools don't follow the rules. They're constantly jump in
front of the truck, should be hitting on our brakes
and becoming very dangerous.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
They don't stay in their lane.

Speaker 17 (29:05):
They have a lane, they don't stay in it, pretty
much like we made a whole lane for you, and
you don't even stay in it.

Speaker 19 (29:10):
It's dangerous for them too, though, you know, because some
drivers are reckless and they don't care if they hit somebody,
you know, So it's for their safety too, right.

Speaker 11 (29:19):
I mean a lot of bicycles weaving in and out
of traffic on New York City streets. I've seen it myself,
and forget even weaving in and out of traffic and
not staying in bike lanes, getting up on sidewalks sometimes
and going really fast past pedestrians. There are rules for
cyclists in New York City, both eat bikes and regular bikes,

(29:40):
but there is no ticketing system. Drivers say there needs
to be some form of monetary enforcement that will keep
these cyclists in check.

Speaker 19 (29:49):
They should have a scale down version of what someone
driving a car would get for a traffic violation.

Speaker 17 (29:54):
They shouldn't have the same violations we have, but a
scaled down version.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
This shit.

Speaker 19 (29:58):
It's not fair for us. I mean, we got tickets
all the time, and they never have to face any
like ticketing or anything like that.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
So like how they go out hard on cars with traffic,
you move, you know, police, you get tickets, and you
do the same thing for bicycles. They don't do that.
So and then you tell them about the city lose money.
Y'all lose money because y'all don't do the right thing.
Y'all bother the dumb stuff instead of getting.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
The real stuff.

Speaker 11 (30:21):
Yeah, so he said, pay attention to the bicycles instead
of I don't know anything else that you might things
a little fluff around the city here now, pedestrians and
drivers are all too familiar with what can go wrong
while sharing the road with bikes.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
Them speeding bikes, them them things with them little engine
loom things they got, the little electric they move fast.
That's like we're getting hit by a card thirty miles
now with twenty miles an hour at they speed. They're
not stop, they don't care, and there's too many out here.

Speaker 18 (30:48):
I've had a bike run up the wrong way, hit
me head on, right in the middle of my hood,
go up over my hood and down the back and
apologize me because he knew what he was doing. But
he knew he was going down the street the wrong way.
You knew he was flying, and you just got up
apologizing left. But this is crazy.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
I can't believe you apologize.

Speaker 11 (31:11):
Him to that, yeah, instead of just getting up and going.
I wonder what the damage was on that guy's car.
He didn't say, like, oh my whole hood was smashing.
But when a bike comes over and rolls over the
head of your car. But you know, Larry, there's no
insurance for these bikers, so it just kind of there's
no way or system of keeping them in check or

(31:34):
you know, understanding their history. I wouldn't want to say
they're driving history, but they're biking history. So people not
so convinced that these lights will work. And if people
will actually blow past them or stay there and wait
for the bike to change, the.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Lights flash, they're not going to work. They don't work.
They've already tested them. They're not working at all, they say,
Now people will get used to them. No, they're not.
They're ignoring the lights. They see the lights, they see them,
they just ignore them until they crack down on bikers.
This isn't gonna change. But they're not going to because
this entire city is anti car. That's the problem. Thanks

(32:12):
so much. Natalie Migliori is gonna be back Monday morning
because she's gonna have a great weekend. At eight point fifty, parents,
do you know what your kids are doing? Online? The
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(32:35):
about that after the nine o'clock News