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March 19, 2025 7 mins
Sean Spicer joins Mendte in the Morning to talk about Donald Trump’s willingness to negotiate with world leaders who are generally difficult to work with.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot to talk about with Sean Spicer today. I
want to get his insights into the peace talks between
Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. But before we get to that,
I just want to marvel for a second at Trump's
first two months, because it seems like two years of
things getting done, and I just wonder how his how

(00:22):
the people around him keep up with him. Sean, you
were his press secretary. By the way, Shawn Spicer not
only was Trump's first press secretary, but he is the
host of the Sean Spicer Show, which you can find
on the High Art Radio app and you can also
find it on YouTube. Let me do that again the
iHeartRadio app and on YouTube. Sean, thanks so much for

(00:45):
being here this morning. How do you keep up with
this guy?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Listen?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was gonna I was just about to text my
team and say we got to get on this new
platform Larry just mentioned, so thank god. It was like, listen,
I'm so far out of the that, you know. I
was like, I guess I probably missed it. I'm on
MySpace and that's about it. So I thought, oh God,

(01:09):
Larry's give me another one. I learned about Blue Sky
the other day, which I'm not on.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
But I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Look, I was joking with Natalie before the show because
she said, hey, Larry's going to touch.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
On these things.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
And she said, you know, you got how does a
seventy eight year old keep going like that? And I said,
how do to go at fifty three year old keep up
with him?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Just watching that? I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I literally when I and I'm not kidding, when I
leave the house during the day after between shows, I
will look at his schedule and DVR stuff because I'm like,
I can't miss something, like if you do, it's like
missing an episode of White Lotus, Like you feel like,
I gotta watch real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Everyone's talking about it. I gotta go find out when
I missed.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And so I honest to god, I know you know
cring John Peer used to talk about keeping up with
Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We all knew that was a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
But when you think about how early he's up, I
mean the truths that he sends out, they're him, right,
we all know that that's not a and so he's
up early, he stays up late, he's going And then
to your point, it's not just the hours, right, I
think sometimes people confuse hours with output, and I look
at what he's getting done, and again, same thing. When

(02:16):
I wrap up a show on a Friday, I will
open up a doc to start thinking about what do
I want to talk about on Monday, And honest to God,
by the time I go back and look at it
Sunday night, the Friday stuff is completely obsolete because he
does It's not The weekends are just packed full of
phone calls and actions and announcements, and so I honestly

(02:37):
think it's just hysterical how much is happening. And whether
or not you love him or hate him, you got
to admit that this is not a guy who's sitting
around letting, letting the grass grow under his feet.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, he's not phoning it in, that's for sure. He's
there every single day doing this. What do you make
you were there when he had his relations with Vladimir Putin?
What what kind of relationship is that between the two
of them?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
So I think it's a great question you're asking, Larry,
because I think that most of the folks in the
media fundamentally misunderstand something.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Trump loves a challenge.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, So I remember back in the day, you know,
somebody said, oh you can, Like they were talking to
me and they said, you can never run a marathon.
Now it was not pretty, I will tell you that.
Thank god there were not video cameras at the debt
at the time. But I was like, you tell me
I can't.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Do it, I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And Trump's got that ethos on like deals. Tell him
that like X deal fill in the blanket?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Is that losive?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
So everyone said when he first got in office, you
can't deal with Putin, you can't deal with she, you
can't deal with Kim Jong U, And he was like, really,
I'll do it. Like he he almost relishes the challenge.
And so for him, when everybody says you can't do it,
he goes.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh, yeah, I can.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And so that's where I think that that people miss
the the uh the analysis of Trump is that he
relishes the challenge of getting what noe, what has been
elusive to everyone else. And so what he seeks with
Putin is is you know, and I know this sounds
kind of like lame and like woozy, but he actually

(04:09):
loves peace.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
And I know that's like everyone.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Will go who doesn't, But but Donald Trumpe prides himself
on the fact that for four years there were no
foreign wars, no incursions, no annexing of land on his watch.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And he wants that.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
He wants, you know, whether or not it's it's for
ego or a talking point, who cares if he's bringing.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
The world safety? Do you really care? Why? Right?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
And and so I think that what he is striving
is to say, all right, for four years, you know,
peace got away from us. People were killed, destruction was had.
I want to be the guy that puts an end
to it. That's what he seeks ultimately, full stop.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I can't. I can't get over the people that say,
you know, Putin owns him, He's Putin's puppet. What is
the alternative to talking to Vladimir Putin?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, that's it.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Don't know, that's exactly right, Larry, tell me because in
my mind and maybe some you can, you know, someone
could disagree with this.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
There are two options, two realistic options.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
One is you just keep going, we keep throwing money
at Ukraine, they fight, the Europeans, sit there and watch
people get killed and destruction continues.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Or you can go down a path apiece.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Now I know, I watched I read a lot of
the stuff and watched a lot of the analysis this
morning of like what happened yesterday, and well, he didn't
get a full cease fire.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, So if I ask you.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
For one hundred dollars and you give me twenty, do
you go, yeah, you came up eighty short, or do
you go, hey, you're twenty ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'm a guy that says, hey, I didn't get everything.
I got twenty yesterday.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm gonna go back today for another twenty or another
forty in pursuit of that full hundred. I get he
didn't get everything, but guess what, for forty years.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
We got nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
And I just I feel like too many people are
rooting against the right outcome because they don't like him.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
All the time. That's that's not odd. That's on every
single issue, and it's bizarre, and it's the reason the
Democratic Party has such low approval ratings right now exactly
because of this. The relationship between the two of them.
It seems like that it's still adversarial, but there's mutual respect.
Is that fair?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Correct? That's absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I think that that Putin felt that Biden was feckless.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, if you go and read the analysis.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Part of the reason that he invaded Ukraine in the
first place is that he had watched the box withdrawal
from Afghanistan and thought, you know, what are they going.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
To do to me? He fears Trump.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Even Zelensky has said that, like on the record that
you know that. He said, the only person that Putin
fears is Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
So there's a and and.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Putin knows I think you know again whether or not
it's he feels the uncertainty or unpredictability of Trump, it
really doesn't matter. You know that he fears him, and
I would rather, if you think about it from a
military strategic perspective, I'd rather be feared than liked.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Absolutely, Thanks so much. Sewn Spicer, Trump's first press secretary,
host of Here we Go, I'm gonna slow down on
this host of This Sean Spicer Show. You can find
him on iHeartRadio, on the iHeartRadio app, and on YouTube.
How was that?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Thanks Larry
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