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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Weedned podcast, starring husband and wife Mojo
from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
On this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Coming up on this episode of the Weedon Podcast, we're
back and guess what this is? A historic number fifty
is his episode number fifty Big, which, by the way,
somebody I know is the Big five to Zo. We
won't get into that because I think we talked about
that enough in the last episode and we haven't been
around for a while, and we'll explain why coming up
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
All Right, so, episode fifty of the We Don't Podcast,
which by the way, is also year number three of
the We Don't Podcast, And it's kind of interesting that
we start this podcast off by saying that we're going
to explain where the heck we have been and why
(01:31):
we kind of stop doing the we Don't podcast for
a couple of months, especially after we did an episode
where we talked about your health. We're going to talk
about why we are doing a year number three of this,
and we're going to talk about the one thing that
seems like so many people that are our age are
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doing that we think is going to be helpful for
them but hurtful for their marriage. So those are all
three things we want to talk about. By the way,
you look fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We rolled up both rolled out of bed and said,
let's do a podcast today, and we haven't done it
for a while, and what do you think the reasoning is?
And I'll explain what I think my reasoning is of
why we haven't done this.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, I think for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I mean, it was the last one we did was
in October, and so then started the holidays and having
the boys home in and out of the house, and
it was just a busy time for us. And so
we try to record them on a Sunday and then
they go out on Monday. But then it was the
end of the weekend, and I think we just got sidetracked.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I also think I think exactly the same way that
you feel is how I feel. But then it would
come to a point where we would I wish we
could tape us not doing the podcast, because I think
it would actually probably be even more compelling than the podcast.
Sometimes because it becomes are we gonna do a g
Are we gonna do a podcast? Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, you would irritate me about it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And I would say, yeah, let's do a podcast. And
by the way, that was my invitation of you, We're
going to do the podcast. And then you would go,
you just don't even want to do the podcast anymore,
and then you would.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Want no ball and run.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
No one cares, it doesn't matter. People don't mind that
we're not doing it. It's okay, and by the way,
it doesn't hurt my feelings if no one cares. But yeah,
but then yeah, we would just end up getting in
fights over it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But it's funny because we went into this truly to
do therapy for ourselves. Almost we never did this podcast,
I believe for anybody like it was really not no.
And then we started seeing that there were some people
that really were affected in a positive way by honestly,
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especially your advice that you've given. Because I've had a
goofy platform for a while, this was an opportunity for
you to actually get your ways out.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, and it's been nice having the couple people reach
out and say that it's made a difference and it's helped.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's been great.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
By the way, when you say a couple, you make
it sound like there's two. There's a lot of people
that have averaged out.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, it's been nice. It's been nice.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, and please do us a favor if you can.
You know, I don't want to sit there and be like,
here we are, we're doing this for ourselves, but we're
promoting You should tell other people about this thing. If
you are somebody that feels like you've gotten into a
routten either your relationship or you've gotten into a period
of your life where you're just trying to figure out things,
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and you found that some of the things that have
happened on any of these podcasts have helped you help
a friend and tell them about it. There's so many
times we share are the I share more audibles books
with people and get have friends that share with me,
and I feel like sometimes we need to start sharing
things that are helpful instead of hurtful.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Right, And I think that this podcast is just you know,
reality of us, and we probably share sometimes a little
bit too much, but or and there is a lot
that I still there is a line in the sand
that I will not go, which you better be. I
think you're going to be very careful trying not to
cross it today. But I think, you know, I think
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that we're real. We just share some stuff that a
lot of people can relate to. Yeah, well, cause everyone
has the same problems at the end of the day,
it's just what you're willing to share.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We talked some of the last podcasts that we have,
we talked a lot about your health. We talked a
lot about your birthday that came up. And I think
when we stopped doing it, it costs for a number
of people to wonder a how is your health because
people started worrying that the reason we weren't doing it
(05:52):
was because you weren't feeling good. Interestingly, lately enough we're
taping this podcast and this is the week that you
finally are getting in with the doctor that you've been
trying to give into.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It took me three months to get in with her,
so I'm really excited. But yeah, so I don't have
any full full answers I have, you know originally, and
I can say that at one point they thought it
might be MS and that was like the scary scary
part not MS. Thank God did several MRIs to rule
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that out. So now I'm going to go see a
functional medical doctor. It just it seems like my immune
system is completely depleted down to zero and I have
to build it back up. So hopefully this doctor is
going to help me with that. I don't know if
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you can tell, but my voice ince October has been
really hoarse and off. I got sick in October and
I still my voice is not fully back, which is
kind of a really weird thing. But honestly, I think
since COVID there has been a lot of crazy and
weird illnesses going around.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And you know, we.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Talked about you went through uh, your breast implants illness
and that kind of changed your immune system, and then
COVID kind of changed things a little bit. Some doctors
have talked about long COVID.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Long COVID.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, so there are a couple of doctors that I
spoke with that think that that's probably what this is.
And you know, not to bore people with stuff, but
I've been doing you know, other like supplementing, supplementing with
NAD and trying to get my immune system up.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
With respectim.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
NAD is something that we So it's I don't know
the full explanation of everything, but so we are all
born with a certain level of NAD in our bodies
and as we get older it depletes and then that's
part of the aging process. So there you can get
it through ivy or do it intramuscular, which is how
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I do what I do a shot every couple of
weeks or every twice a week, and it became really
popular because some of the celebrities were doing it for
anti aging. I had nerve pain throughout my whole body,
like my body literally felt like it was on fire,
and I had it. If anyone has ever had shingles,
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that's how I can explain it. Literally felt like my
body was on fire twenty four hours a day for
almost nine weeks so and literally collarbone down. So I
started doing the NAD and it and NAD overdosed on
vitamin C ivermectin and I don't know what it was,
(08:48):
if it was a combo of all three or what,
but it finally, thank god, went away.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I'm trying to you know, I'm doing anything and everything
I can to keep it away again.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You and I are both focusing a little bit more
on our health too. We went into actually it was
it wasn't even just last year, it was the year
before where I feel like it was kind of the
start for me and I think for you also, where
we were both kind of trying to figure out how
to get ourselves healthier. And it caused for you to
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go to a doctor that and then I started going
to this doctor. And this is where the part is.
There's something that a lot of people are doing right
now that is causing for them to get healthier, but
it's also causing for their relationships to probably go through
a little bit of struggles. And we want to talk
about this. And it's one word. It's called testosterone, and
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we're going to talk about that now because it has
become something that both of us are doing. I remember
in twenty twenty two, I'm trying to get my years
right right now, because what was last year twenty No,
twenty twenty three. It was twenty twenty three that I
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ended up going to a doctor to get my blood test.
And when they went through my blood test, they went
through everything. They're like, oh, man, your cholesterol's great, you
don't have diabetes. Like they started going through all this crap,
and then they got to my testosterone. They said, well,
your testosterone is a little low. And I said a
little low? And what does that mean? Like, because you know, obviously,
as a guy, you want to have high testosterone because
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it makes you feel like you're a man. I guess right.
I mean I've kind of felt like I've always not
been a man. But my testosterone was one hundred. It
was like one hundred and twenty. And I said, well,
where's it supposed to be And they're like, well, you're
supposed to be between like eight hundred and fifteen hundred
or something like that. Like that doesn't sound like it's good.
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And so I went to a doctor that specializes in
testosterone and I started taking testosterone. But you also did too,
which is interesting because I didn't even know that women
take testosterone. So we have both started doing testosterone. I
have also been doing, and I talk about this on
our radio show pretty openly. I think some people either
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think I'm joking or not joking, but I've been doing
a form of oh ozambic. I play that all the
time on our show. But I've been doing manjourno or munjoro.
I don't even know how to how to pronounce. And
I'm pretty open about that fact that I've done that.
I've lost nearly fifty pounds since like a year ago February.
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I think it was was when I really started being
more focused on that. But we both have been kind
of watching ourselves. You look phenomenal, like I see. I
see such a difference in you, and listeners have seen
pictures of Chell's over time. It always have been very
complimentary about how beautiful you are. I feel like this
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year though, I mean, I get people constantly they're telling me,
does your wife like Benjamin button herself, like she's aging
in reverse?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Well, I think also, I'm doing hormone HRT hormone replacement therapy.
I also am micro dosing with a GLP one.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Explain you talk these languages.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
So GLP one is what ozempic and mon journal and
so it's a stema glue tiger's appetite. Okay, So which
I have done so much research, and I'm so fortunate
one of my very best friends owns Beauty Culture Medspa
and Cultured Wellness, and so we kind of I feed
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off of her and listen to her, and I do
so much research. And she just started her wellness clinic
about a year ago, and so I've been doing a
lot of stuff with her. So inflammation, Like we talked
about having the breast implants and how that really just
wrecked me a lot. Immediately when I put them in.
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My body got so inflamed. Within six months, I had
arthritis symptoms and so much stuff going on well and
kind of like mimicked autoimmune stuff. So fast forward, you
do a microdose, a little tiny dose of this, and
it has calmed the inflammation in my body. I thought
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that I had arthritis and all over my body, and
I mean, I'm sure I do, cause I'm fifty. I
do have some arthritis somewhere, but my body doesn't hurt anymore.
And then with hormone replacement therapy progesterone and estrogen and
my thyroid, thyroid is way off it's been a journey,
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but it's you know, you do it slow, you do
it the right way, and you do with the people
that are very knowledgeable about it, and then you just
feel amazing. Now testosterone I've been doing and you and
I do not have the same response from it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Explain or should I explain?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, we have to be very careful because I promised
Luca would never.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Okay, so I take my testosterone levels went from one
hundred and twenty to like now, I'm up near seven
hundred over the course of gosh, it's been since twenty
twenty three, so it took over a year for it
to get to that level and where I started seeing
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the most results of my weight loss and my energy level.
Because I feel like and you I don't. You can
attest to this because you know I'm the type of person.
What do I do? The first thing I do come home,
I want to sit on the couch and and I
lay on it. Since I started getting my testosterone up,
I feel like I have more energy. I'm able to
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jump out of bed in the morning. I have been
lately really focused on trying to get out a treadmill
and exercise and then also work out a couple days
a week with a trainer, and it also has caused
for me to have a hell of a lot more
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of a sexual drive because in I don't know if
Luke would rather hear his parents talk about how they're
not having sex than having sex, because honestly, I'm like
different than this. I wish my dad and mom were
fucking all the time. Like I just wish if that
was their thing. And they had six kids, so maybe
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they were. You know, she didn't live a long life,
but I have. It hasn't been since you and I
got together that I feel as like not so much
sexually driven, but I feel like I actually am more
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like focused on my relationship in my you know, the
sexual part of my relationship. And I think that testosterone
has definitely helped. But I also think you and I
losing weight helps too, because where I think the mindset
is that, yeah, this magic shot is going to get
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get our bodies back to where we are. You go
through your day, you feel like shit. You know, I
wake up at three thirty every single morning and I
go in and I work, and I don't eat consistently
while I'm working, or like focus on my nutrition while
I'm working, and then I get off work, I eat
a bunch of crap, and you feel like crap. You go,
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I'm home. All you want to do is sleep. Where
Now I think I'm more focused on the whole big picture,
and I think it gives me an opportunity to go, God,
I look better, I feel better. I look at you.
I'm more sexually attracted to you now than I have
been in years, because you do look amazing. But I
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don't know. And then you think that it's a problem,
which I think is kind of funny.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, it's a problem because there is no in between,
like it is. Either you want to go full four
like again, fine line because I made a promise. But
here's the thing. If you we're laying in bed and
you go to touch me, and then that's it because
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if I don't respond the way you want me to respond,
then you get angry and upset and it turns into
a big fight. And if I do respond the way
you want to respond, then okay, great, but then it's
that it turns into if we don't do it all
of the time, you're upset and you feel like you're
being rejected, and you feel like a full transparency. We
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have never really had a very big, huge sex life
that wasn't and we've had a lot of times where
we weren't connected on many levels other than the fact
that we shared three children and lived in the same house,
so there was nothing going on. And so I think
the way that testosterone makes men feel right now, because
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I know I'm not alone. I have friends whose husbands
are on it, and we all share the same thing.
It's like, yes, it does make you feel younger, it
makes you like you didn't your doctor say every morning
you should be waking up.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Having I wait, I wake up And this is not
just Luke will probably be embarrassed by this, but you
might be embarrassed listening to this. I wake up with
morning wood. And but that's part of it, right, not
every day, but some days. But they say that you should,
you should.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's a sign that it's working. It's a sign.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And by the way, there are so many good things
with up being your testosterone. So it's good for I
think it's.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's very good for heart. It's great. It's great for
heart health because it get you know, but you obviously
got to make sure that you are doing it right
and that's why I'm having all my.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Door have had just on here with us talking about this,
so you could talk about the medical benefits of it,
but it's there are so many good, good things about it.
So and I wanted you to go on this health
journey had I known that it would in turn cause
because it has caused many many fights between us.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh yeah, I went back to therapy. I went back
to my therapist because of it.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, And I told you tell them.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You But here's what he said. His thing that he
said in your roy.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Who her husband is on testosterone, But his.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Thing was and this is truth on what he's saying.
But I also, Chelsea is right, I do jump right
to let's just, you know, have sex. His singing is
it's it's not sex, it's intimacy, it's the it's the
idea that you're together and it's even And this is
something that we have never really had much in our relationship,
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Like there has never been much of It's usually me
rolling over in the at night or in the morning
to come to you. It's never you coming to me.
And the problem in that relationship is that nobody wants
to always be the person seeking out. They want sometimes
they have the person someone, but it's not sex. It's
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just intimacy. It's the whole reach over and hold a hand.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Intimacy though, is not just physical. This is my problem
that you and I fight about a lot. Intimacy is
not physical for you. Intimacy is physical. There is a
lot that is emotional. And I'm telling you, in marriage,
I'm going to guess ninety eight percent of it is
women don't feel fulfilled because their husband isn't giving to
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them emotional fulfillment. Men don't feel fulfilled because their wives
aren't giving them physical fulfillment. So it's a constant, non
stop battle.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
That is clear.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
We all have it well so you so for me,
in order for me to feel like I want to
have any kind of physical contact with you, you have
got to give something to me which is not rubbing
my leg for two seconds and then talking to me
for those two seconds and then expecting me to jump
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all over you. That's not going to happen. And by
the way, I've never been that person. That's the other
part of this equation that is so frustrating. I can
tell you probably one time where I wanted to have
sex all of the time with you, and it was
when I was trying to get pregnant with Jacob. That's
probably the only time I ever initiated with you, and
there was a goal.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That I had.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And I know that sounds horrible and it's not nice,
but I'm just I have never been the aggressor in
the relationship ever. So I think too, you throw that
in there at me and like, well, you don't ever
pursue me. I'm always the one I never have. This
isn't something that I've switched on you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But it's not just sex though, And this is and
I agree one thousand percent because yesterday we did some
cleaning around the house and we spent time together and
we actually were high fiving each other at the end
of the deal because we were able to get through the project.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Because typically I would be doing it by myself. Yeah,
and it took half the time.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It was very nice, and honestly, it felt intimate, like
that felt like an intimate moment with the two of us,
and that was obviously a good moment. And I didn't obviously,
you know, pull my pants down and want to have sex.
I don't necessarily think that. I don't know if you
heard what I said in the morning. It's not that
I want you to. I don't want to be the
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guy always rubbing your leg. I would love to be
the guy because sometimes gets a handheld, and I think
that there are sometimes and when I mean a handheld,
it's like even just a you're laying there, you're kind
of getting up, and sometimes we both are on the
same cycle of we both are up in about a
lot at night and sometimes just to reach over in
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just a hey, I'm right here, and it doesn't have
to turn into sex. See you haven't tried it though.
See I'm the one that's always the one coming over
towards you. And this is where Dennis, my therapist, has
had this conversation with me. Is he said to me,
He goes, hey, you know, there does have to be
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more consistent, consistent intimacy in relationships to keep your relationships.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So physical intimacy because you need to define that, because
there's emotional intimacy and there's physical intimacy. And I think
we have definitely over the years had more emotional intimacy
versus physical, Like this is.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
An emotional intimacy right here with us being intimate talking
about here.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Absolutely but you it's either all or nothing. Sometimes with you,
you're either in or you're out, black or white, there
is no gray. So when you this, and this is
where I get angry and resentful because you use the
word intimacy and you blanket it, because there have been
times where we have been strictly emotional intimate or more
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emotionally intimate, and then you make me feel like I'm
failing because I'm not fulfilling the physical part, or you
pout and you get upset because you're not getting that
when for me, I do need the more emotional and
there's a background to that. We've been together for thirty
two years, married for thirty, so I have felt very
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unfulfilled in the emotional department for years. So just because
you're testosterone has come up to six hundred or whatever
it is, and congratulations, that's amazing. It doesn't mean that
I'm going to start having sex with sex excuse me,
sex with you all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So then how do we how do we meet in
the meet in the middle, so to speak? Or are
we ever? Will we ever meet in the middle.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
As far as this is why testosterone is like also
harming relationships because all of a sudden, men are like
back to their early twenties sexual drive.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm fifty.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
If you know, if we got divorced, I would never
be with a twenty year old because I could not
would not ever want to keep up with that. So
I think it's a little unfair advantage. By the way
I'm on testosterone. I do not have the reaction that
you have at all at all.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Are other women having that reaction or the same reaction
as yours? What's your reaction to testosterone?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I mean, I don't feel.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Do you think it has helped you in them?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I'm sure it's helped some things, for sure, But I
don't have this overcharged sex drive.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Or how about energy level? You have better energy? Well?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I again, I'm doing a lot of things. Can I
pinpoint on one? No, And I don't you know, my
testosterone is now in normal range. I just had blood
work done, but I don't mean it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
What is a normal range for women? You know?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I'd have to look at my numbers. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Okay, I don't know it off hen there's a lot
of numbers that I have going on.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So when we talk about. So obviously the point of
bringing this up is testosterones were in marriage, is that
you know you had told me that you have heard
so many women that complain about this.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
And the funny thing is when you run around preaching
get on testosterone, get it on testosterone, and I'm telling
the wives, don't let him get on test off.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But here's but honestly, here's the thing. What would you
rather for me? Would you rather that I get healthier?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And obviously I'd rather you get healthier and live longer.
That's why I turned you on to this doctor. So obviously,
I'm just saying that there has to be some kind
of awareness that just because you're like, again, you're fifty four,
take away the testosterone. You wouldn't have this drive like
you have now.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Two years three years ago, there was no drive.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And by the way, then our intimacy level for you
probably would have been a lot more fulfilled. Because so
I'm just saying, there's this added thing that has come
in and it has changed in you. It doesn't mean
it's changed in me. And I just feel that there's
no give in it, because do.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You think to testosterone with more awareness of this? Because
I'm seeing a lot more guys that are my age
that are a lot of the guys. There's a lot
of people that I'm in kind of like a golf
community with where because I golf a lot, and I
never be honest with you. The reason why I golf
more now is I have more energy because of what
I'm doing. Before I would golf three times a year
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and I fucking hated it. I didn't even like going
through eighteen holes. Now I'm obsessed with it, and that's
probably where my energy levels going towards, because well, we
won't go. But I do think that a lot of
the guys that I do know that are getting to
that age, because there's even guys that are that are
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buddies of mine that are like young forties or late
thirties are telling me, man, I got no energy or.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Well they say that even men in their twenties have
low testosterone.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Now yeah, yeah. Do you think that this is going
to lead to relationships cheating in relationships? Or do you
think that this is going to lead to divorces because
people are going to feel like, Okay, now I feel
this great and my spouse is all they want to
do is sit at home.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I mean, listen, cheating was there before testosterone therapy, but.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Sorry, I just.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Kicked the chair. I think my testostermit that was I.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Think that if you don't open the communication and then
understand that, okay, just I'm getting jitterate here, just because
you are experiencing all of this, you have to and
it's a choice for you to inject that testosterone or
(29:10):
rub it on yourself, because you can also rub it
on you And I wonder also, by the way, I
will say this, you do it in our I am,
so you inject yourself in your muscle. There's also a
way that they're coming out now showing with research that
it's better for men, which I think would be labor intensive,
but you might enjoy it, where instead they just rub
(29:33):
it on their testicles twice a day because then it
keeps the level at a certain level when you inject,
you you know, peak and then go down, and then
peak and then go down. And so they're theoretically thinking
that it's better just to rub the cream on. And
I told Jess, okay, we'll switch them over to the
(29:53):
cream and then I'm gonna throw the cream away and
I'll well, put hope, what a lotion in it? He'll
think it's testosterone.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
But see, you and I are so different. I and
I have guy friends of mine who don't want their
wives to do all the beauty care to themselves because
they don't want their wife looking great. Like I know
guys two specifically who have made comments about, oh my god,
(30:23):
do you ever worry about Chelsea? You know, because how
great she looks, that guys are checking her out and
stuff like that. I actually like that, but I also
it does drive me a little bit crazy when our
intimacy level is not great, because it does make me. Yeah,
it makes my makes me get jealous.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
But that's only now because again of the testosterone.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, I do want to bring something else up, and
I want to talk about this because I think that
this is something big right now. We both openly talked
about taking in different types of medications and stuff, and
I listen. I have always been somebody that's talked about
my weight my entire career on radio. I think I've
done every product known to man, which honestly all have
(31:13):
worked for me somehow, But deep down inside, I think
that many of them were just quick fixes and a
lot of it was mindset, you know, that needed to
be there. I find it so interesting how there are
these different products that are out and people that are
doing them and losing weight don't want to talk about them.
(31:35):
Do you feel uncomfortable talking about it?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Because no, No, because I but I think because people
there there might be a little shame in it, which
is really sad. But people think that they're going to
be judged because they're taking the quote unquote easy way
out when it's not easy. I mean, the thing about
these glp ones, so the tuers appetite, some of glue,
Tideman Journal all that stuff, z on pick.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
It is meant for you to be used as a tool,
not just the only thing. So and there, it helps
cut back on cravings. Funny enough, like with alcohol, with sugars,
with like there's so many benefits to its cardio protective,
(32:20):
it's there are so many benefits to them. But unfortunately
it got the uh the label as the easy way out.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Well because a lot of celebrities were doing Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
But the thing is is that you also have to
work out with it. You also have to you know,
I've been on it for a very long time. Small
dose for a very long time. And it's wasn't the
weight that came off very easily.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I work out.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I there are a lot of things that I do
for my health that you know that is just a
little that's one of my tools in my tool box.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah. So well, and I will tell you know, tell
you this that you had kind of preached to me
because I wanted to start taking this and thought it
was just going to be something I can just take
and I won't eat and I'll lose weight. And you
had basically said to me, Hey, you got to get up,
you got to exercise, you got to do.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
This and if you go off of it, when you
go off of it, you will gain weight all of
the weight back. Plus more studies have shown if you don't,
it's a key to help you re look at everything
that you do. Make sure you're active, make sure you're
making better food choices and smaller food choices.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well that is and that's one of the things that
you and I have done a better job of is
making sure that we are eating better and h and
also making sure that with what we're not eating anymore,
like keeping things out of the house, right, all right,
So we talked about a bunch of fiftieth episode. This
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is unbelievable, the fiftieth episode. Isn't that crazy to think?
So you read me yesterday in a DM from somebody
that's and it's one of like you say, yeah, I
get a couple of people like you get. I mean,
I don't know how many people follow the We Don't Podcast.
I know it's not a ton which, by the way,
(34:18):
please share that with people the We Don't Podcast Instagram page.
And we're going to do a better job this year
of making sure that we're on all the social platforms
and getting that out there. But the one thing that
I took from what that it sounded to me like
a woman who's raised kids our same age and have
been together for a while, was the relatability that you
(34:41):
share that they appreciated. And I want you to know
I do love doing this podcast. I actually love that
you and I for the last you know, thirty plus minutes,
have had an opportunity just to have a conversation that
I can now play for Dennis, my therapist, and have
him listen to and hear your voice on it. But
(35:03):
it also gives me an opportunity to be intimate with you.
And I know that you know, you think that everything
that I want is to have sex with you. But
I do enjoy just spending time with you. And even
though I don't show it and don't you know, show
it without you know, humping your leg, I do. And
(35:25):
I think that's pretty damn good for being together for
thirty two years. Because I'll be honest with you, I
think that there's probably a lot of people that have
been married for ten years that don't fucking want to
be around their.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Spouse through that. Definitely a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, so, and I hope that those people, if they
are listening to this, I hope that you don't just
start rubbing testosterone on your balls. Will you please tell
me about this lotion? I want to hear about that
Welcome to the Weedned podcast, starring husband and wife Mojo
from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
On this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Coming up on this episode of the Weedon Podcast, we're
back and guess what this is? A historic number fifty
is his episode number fifty Big, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
All Right, so, episode fifty of the We Don't Podcast,
which by the way, is also year number three of
the We Don't Podcast, And it's kind of interesting that
we start this podcast off by saying that we're going
to explain where the heck we have been and why
(01:31):
we kind of stop doing the we Don't podcast for
a couple of months, especially after we did an episode
where we talked about your health. We're going to talk
about why we are doing a year number three of this,
and we're going to talk about the one thing that
seems like so many people that are our age are
(01:51):
doing that we think is going to be helpful for
them but hurtful for their marriage. So those are all
three things we want to talk about. By the way,
you look fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We rolled up both rolled out of bed and said,
let's do a podcast today, and we haven't done it
for a while, and what do you think the reasoning is?
And I'll explain what I think my reasoning is of
why we haven't done this.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, I think for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I mean, it was the last one we did was
in October, and so then started the holidays and having
the boys home in and out of the house, and
it was just a busy time for us. And so
we try to record them on a Sunday and then
they go out on Monday. But then it was the
end of the weekend, and I think we just got sidetracked.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I also think I think exactly the same way that
you feel is how I feel. But then it would
come to a point where we would I wish we
could tape us not doing the podcast, because I think
it would actually probably be even more compelling than the podcast.
Sometimes because it becomes are we gonna do a g
Are we gonna do a podcast? Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, you would irritate me about it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And I would say, yeah, let's do a podcast. And
by the way, that was my invitation of you, We're
going to do the podcast. And then you would go,
you just don't even want to do the podcast anymore,
and then you would.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Want no ball and run.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
No one cares, it doesn't matter. People don't mind that
we're not doing it. It's okay, and by the way,
it doesn't hurt my feelings if no one cares. But yeah,
but then yeah, we would just end up getting in
fights over it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But it's funny because we went into this truly to
do therapy for ourselves. Almost we never did this podcast,
I believe for anybody like it was really not no.
And then we started seeing that there were some people
that really were affected in a positive way by honestly,
(03:52):
especially your advice that you've given. Because I've had a
goofy platform for a while, this was an opportunity for
you to actually get your ways out.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, and it's been nice having the couple people reach
out and say that it's made a difference and it's helped.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's been great.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
By the way, when you say a couple, you make
it sound like there's two. There's a lot of people
that have averaged out.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, it's been nice. It's been nice.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, and please do us a favor if you can.
You know, I don't want to sit there and be like,
here we are, we're doing this for ourselves, but we're
promoting You should tell other people about this thing. If
you are somebody that feels like you've gotten into a
routten either your relationship or you've gotten into a period
of your life where you're just trying to figure out things,
(04:36):
and you found that some of the things that have
happened on any of these podcasts have helped you help
a friend and tell them about it. There's so many
times we share are the I share more audibles books
with people and get have friends that share with me,
and I feel like sometimes we need to start sharing
things that are helpful instead of hurtful.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Right, And I think that this podcast is just you know,
reality of us, and we probably share sometimes a little
bit too much, but or and there is a lot
that I still there is a line in the sand
that I will not go, which you better be. I
think you're going to be very careful trying not to
cross it today. But I think, you know, I think
(05:21):
that we're real. We just share some stuff that a
lot of people can relate to. Yeah, well, cause everyone
has the same problems at the end of the day,
it's just what you're willing to share.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We talked some of the last podcasts that we have,
we talked a lot about your health. We talked a
lot about your birthday that came up. And I think
when we stopped doing it, it costs for a number
of people to wonder a how is your health because
people started worrying that the reason we weren't doing it
(05:52):
was because you weren't feeling good. Interestingly, lately enough we're
taping this podcast and this is the week that you
finally are getting in with the doctor that you've been
trying to give into.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It took me three months to get in with her,
so I'm really excited. But yeah, so I don't have
any full full answers I have, you know originally, and
I can say that at one point they thought it
might be MS and that was like the scary scary
part not MS. Thank God did several MRIs to rule
(06:26):
that out. So now I'm going to go see a
functional medical doctor. It just it seems like my immune
system is completely depleted down to zero and I have
to build it back up. So hopefully this doctor is
going to help me with that. I don't know if
(06:49):
you can tell, but my voice ince October has been
really hoarse and off. I got sick in October and
I still my voice is not fully back, which is
kind of a really weird thing. But honestly, I think
since COVID there has been a lot of crazy and
weird illnesses going around.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And you know, we.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Talked about you went through uh, your breast implants illness
and that kind of changed your immune system, and then
COVID kind of changed things a little bit. Some doctors
have talked about long COVID.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Long COVID.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, so there are a couple of doctors that I
spoke with that think that that's probably what this is.
And you know, not to bore people with stuff, but
I've been doing you know, other like supplementing, supplementing with
NAD and trying to get my immune system up.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
With respectim.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
NAD is something that we So it's I don't know
the full explanation of everything, but so we are all
born with a certain level of NAD in our bodies
and as we get older it depletes and then that's
part of the aging process. So there you can get
it through ivy or do it intramuscular, which is how
(08:04):
I do what I do a shot every couple of
weeks or every twice a week, and it became really
popular because some of the celebrities were doing it for
anti aging. I had nerve pain throughout my whole body,
like my body literally felt like it was on fire,
and I had it. If anyone has ever had shingles,
(08:26):
that's how I can explain it. Literally felt like my
body was on fire twenty four hours a day for
almost nine weeks so and literally collarbone down. So I
started doing the NAD and it and NAD overdosed on
vitamin C ivermectin and I don't know what it was,
(08:48):
if it was a combo of all three or what,
but it finally, thank god, went away.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I'm trying to you know, I'm doing anything and everything
I can to keep it away again.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You and I are both focusing a little bit more
on our health too. We went into actually it was
it wasn't even just last year, it was the year
before where I feel like it was kind of the
start for me and I think for you also, where
we were both kind of trying to figure out how
to get ourselves healthier. And it caused for you to
(09:32):
go to a doctor that and then I started going
to this doctor. And this is where the part is.
There's something that a lot of people are doing right
now that is causing for them to get healthier, but
it's also causing for their relationships to probably go through
a little bit of struggles. And we want to talk
about this. And it's one word. It's called testosterone, and
(09:54):
we're going to talk about that now because it has
become something that both of us are doing. I remember
in twenty twenty two, I'm trying to get my years
right right now, because what was last year twenty No,
twenty twenty three. It was twenty twenty three that I
(10:15):
ended up going to a doctor to get my blood test.
And when they went through my blood test, they went
through everything. They're like, oh, man, your cholesterol's great, you
don't have diabetes. Like they started going through all this crap,
and then they got to my testosterone. They said, well,
your testosterone is a little low. And I said a
little low? And what does that mean? Like, because you know, obviously,
as a guy, you want to have high testosterone because
(10:37):
it makes you feel like you're a man. I guess right.
I mean I've kind of felt like I've always not
been a man. But my testosterone was one hundred. It
was like one hundred and twenty. And I said, well,
where's it supposed to be And they're like, well, you're
supposed to be between like eight hundred and fifteen hundred
or something like that. Like that doesn't sound like it's good.
(11:00):
And so I went to a doctor that specializes in
testosterone and I started taking testosterone. But you also did too,
which is interesting because I didn't even know that women
take testosterone. So we have both started doing testosterone. I
have also been doing, and I talk about this on
our radio show pretty openly. I think some people either
(11:21):
think I'm joking or not joking, but I've been doing
a form of oh ozambic. I play that all the
time on our show. But I've been doing manjourno or munjoro.
I don't even know how to how to pronounce. And
I'm pretty open about that fact that I've done that.
I've lost nearly fifty pounds since like a year ago February.
(11:46):
I think it was was when I really started being
more focused on that. But we both have been kind
of watching ourselves. You look phenomenal, like I see. I
see such a difference in you, and listeners have seen
pictures of Chell's over time. It always have been very
complimentary about how beautiful you are. I feel like this
(12:08):
year though, I mean, I get people constantly they're telling me,
does your wife like Benjamin button herself, like she's aging
in reverse?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Well, I think also, I'm doing hormone HRT hormone replacement therapy.
I also am micro dosing with a GLP one.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Explain you talk these languages.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
So GLP one is what ozempic and mon journal and
so it's a stema glue tiger's appetite. Okay, So which
I have done so much research, and I'm so fortunate
one of my very best friends owns Beauty Culture Medspa
and Cultured Wellness, and so we kind of I feed
(12:51):
off of her and listen to her, and I do
so much research. And she just started her wellness clinic
about a year ago, and so I've been doing a
lot of stuff with her. So inflammation, Like we talked
about having the breast implants and how that really just
wrecked me a lot. Immediately when I put them in.
(13:14):
My body got so inflamed. Within six months, I had
arthritis symptoms and so much stuff going on well and
kind of like mimicked autoimmune stuff. So fast forward, you
do a microdose, a little tiny dose of this, and
it has calmed the inflammation in my body. I thought
(13:35):
that I had arthritis and all over my body, and
I mean, I'm sure I do, cause I'm fifty. I
do have some arthritis somewhere, but my body doesn't hurt anymore.
And then with hormone replacement therapy progesterone and estrogen and
my thyroid, thyroid is way off it's been a journey,
(13:56):
but it's you know, you do it slow, you do
it the right way, and you do with the people
that are very knowledgeable about it, and then you just
feel amazing. Now testosterone I've been doing and you and
I do not have the same response from it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Explain or should I explain?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, we have to be very careful because I promised
Luca would never.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Okay, so I take my testosterone levels went from one
hundred and twenty to like now, I'm up near seven
hundred over the course of gosh, it's been since twenty
twenty three, so it took over a year for it
to get to that level and where I started seeing
(14:42):
the most results of my weight loss and my energy level.
Because I feel like and you I don't. You can
attest to this because you know I'm the type of person.
What do I do? The first thing I do come home,
I want to sit on the couch and and I
lay on it. Since I started getting my testosterone up,
I feel like I have more energy. I'm able to
(15:04):
jump out of bed in the morning. I have been
lately really focused on trying to get out a treadmill
and exercise and then also work out a couple days
a week with a trainer, and it also has caused
for me to have a hell of a lot more
(15:24):
of a sexual drive because in I don't know if
Luke would rather hear his parents talk about how they're
not having sex than having sex, because honestly, I'm like
different than this. I wish my dad and mom were
fucking all the time. Like I just wish if that
was their thing. And they had six kids, so maybe
(15:45):
they were. You know, she didn't live a long life,
but I have. It hasn't been since you and I
got together that I feel as like not so much
sexually driven, but I feel like I actually am more
(16:07):
like focused on my relationship in my you know, the
sexual part of my relationship. And I think that testosterone
has definitely helped. But I also think you and I
losing weight helps too, because where I think the mindset
is that, yeah, this magic shot is going to get
(16:28):
get our bodies back to where we are. You go
through your day, you feel like shit. You know, I
wake up at three thirty every single morning and I
go in and I work, and I don't eat consistently
while I'm working, or like focus on my nutrition while
I'm working, and then I get off work, I eat
a bunch of crap, and you feel like crap. You go,
(16:48):
I'm home. All you want to do is sleep. Where
Now I think I'm more focused on the whole big picture,
and I think it gives me an opportunity to go, God,
I look better, I feel better. I look at you.
I'm more sexually attracted to you now than I have
been in years, because you do look amazing. But I
(17:10):
don't know. And then you think that it's a problem,
which I think is kind of funny.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, it's a problem because there is no in between,
like it is. Either you want to go full four
like again, fine line because I made a promise. But
here's the thing. If you we're laying in bed and
you go to touch me, and then that's it because
(17:38):
if I don't respond the way you want me to respond,
then you get angry and upset and it turns into
a big fight. And if I do respond the way
you want to respond, then okay, great, but then it's
that it turns into if we don't do it all
of the time, you're upset and you feel like you're
being rejected, and you feel like a full transparency. We
(18:02):
have never really had a very big, huge sex life
that wasn't and we've had a lot of times where
we weren't connected on many levels other than the fact
that we shared three children and lived in the same house,
so there was nothing going on. And so I think
the way that testosterone makes men feel right now, because
(18:24):
I know I'm not alone. I have friends whose husbands
are on it, and we all share the same thing.
It's like, yes, it does make you feel younger, it
makes you like you didn't your doctor say every morning
you should be waking up.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Having I wait, I wake up And this is not
just Luke will probably be embarrassed by this, but you
might be embarrassed listening to this. I wake up with
morning wood. And but that's part of it, right, not
every day, but some days. But they say that you should,
you should.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's a sign that it's working. It's a sign.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And by the way, there are so many good things
with up being your testosterone. So it's good for I
think it's.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's very good for heart. It's great. It's great for
heart health because it get you know, but you obviously
got to make sure that you are doing it right
and that's why I'm having all my.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Door have had just on here with us talking about this,
so you could talk about the medical benefits of it,
but it's there are so many good, good things about it.
So and I wanted you to go on this health
journey had I known that it would in turn cause
because it has caused many many fights between us.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh yeah, I went back to therapy. I went back
to my therapist because of it.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, And I told you tell them.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You But here's what he said. His thing that he
said in your roy.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Who her husband is on testosterone, But his.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Thing was and this is truth on what he's saying.
But I also, Chelsea is right, I do jump right
to let's just, you know, have sex. His singing is
it's it's not sex, it's intimacy, it's the it's the
idea that you're together and it's even And this is
something that we have never really had much in our relationship,
(20:10):
Like there has never been much of It's usually me
rolling over in the at night or in the morning
to come to you. It's never you coming to me.
And the problem in that relationship is that nobody wants
to always be the person seeking out. They want sometimes
they have the person someone, but it's not sex. It's
(20:33):
just intimacy. It's the whole reach over and hold a hand.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Intimacy though, is not just physical. This is my problem
that you and I fight about a lot. Intimacy is
not physical for you. Intimacy is physical. There is a
lot that is emotional. And I'm telling you, in marriage,
I'm going to guess ninety eight percent of it is
women don't feel fulfilled because their husband isn't giving to
(20:58):
them emotional fulfillment. Men don't feel fulfilled because their wives
aren't giving them physical fulfillment. So it's a constant, non
stop battle.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
That is clear.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
We all have it well so you so for me,
in order for me to feel like I want to
have any kind of physical contact with you, you have
got to give something to me which is not rubbing
my leg for two seconds and then talking to me
for those two seconds and then expecting me to jump
(21:30):
all over you. That's not going to happen. And by
the way, I've never been that person. That's the other
part of this equation that is so frustrating. I can
tell you probably one time where I wanted to have
sex all of the time with you, and it was
when I was trying to get pregnant with Jacob. That's
probably the only time I ever initiated with you, and
there was a goal.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That I had.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And I know that sounds horrible and it's not nice,
but I'm just I have never been the aggressor in
the relationship ever. So I think too, you throw that
in there at me and like, well, you don't ever
pursue me. I'm always the one I never have. This
isn't something that I've switched on you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But it's not just sex though, And this is and
I agree one thousand percent because yesterday we did some
cleaning around the house and we spent time together and
we actually were high fiving each other at the end
of the deal because we were able to get through the project.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Because typically I would be doing it by myself. Yeah,
and it took half the time.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It was very nice, and honestly, it felt intimate, like
that felt like an intimate moment with the two of us,
and that was obviously a good moment. And I didn't obviously,
you know, pull my pants down and want to have sex.
I don't necessarily think that. I don't know if you
heard what I said in the morning. It's not that
I want you to. I don't want to be the
(22:55):
guy always rubbing your leg. I would love to be
the guy because sometimes gets a handheld, and I think
that there are sometimes and when I mean a handheld,
it's like even just a you're laying there, you're kind
of getting up, and sometimes we both are on the
same cycle of we both are up in about a
lot at night and sometimes just to reach over in
(23:17):
just a hey, I'm right here, and it doesn't have
to turn into sex. See you haven't tried it though.
See I'm the one that's always the one coming over
towards you. And this is where Dennis, my therapist, has
had this conversation with me. Is he said to me,
He goes, hey, you know, there does have to be
(23:38):
more consistent, consistent intimacy in relationships to keep your relationships.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So physical intimacy because you need to define that, because
there's emotional intimacy and there's physical intimacy. And I think
we have definitely over the years had more emotional intimacy
versus physical, Like this is.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
An emotional intimacy right here with us being intimate talking
about here.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Absolutely but you it's either all or nothing. Sometimes with you,
you're either in or you're out, black or white, there
is no gray. So when you this, and this is
where I get angry and resentful because you use the
word intimacy and you blanket it, because there have been
times where we have been strictly emotional intimate or more
(24:20):
emotionally intimate, and then you make me feel like I'm
failing because I'm not fulfilling the physical part, or you
pout and you get upset because you're not getting that
when for me, I do need the more emotional and
there's a background to that. We've been together for thirty
two years, married for thirty, so I have felt very
(24:44):
unfulfilled in the emotional department for years. So just because
you're testosterone has come up to six hundred or whatever
it is, and congratulations, that's amazing. It doesn't mean that
I'm going to start having sex with sex excuse me,
sex with you all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So then how do we how do we meet in
the meet in the middle, so to speak? Or are
we ever? Will we ever meet in the middle.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
As far as this is why testosterone is like also
harming relationships because all of a sudden, men are like
back to their early twenties sexual drive.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm fifty.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
If you know, if we got divorced, I would never
be with a twenty year old because I could not
would not ever want to keep up with that. So
I think it's a little unfair advantage. By the way
I'm on testosterone. I do not have the reaction that
you have at all at all.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Are other women having that reaction or the same reaction
as yours? What's your reaction to testosterone?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I mean, I don't feel.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Do you think it has helped you in them?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I'm sure it's helped some things, for sure, But I
don't have this overcharged sex drive.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Or how about energy level? You have better energy? Well?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I again, I'm doing a lot of things. Can I
pinpoint on one? No, And I don't you know, my
testosterone is now in normal range. I just had blood
work done, but I don't mean it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
What is a normal range for women? You know?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I'd have to look at my numbers. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Okay, I don't know it off hen there's a lot
of numbers that I have going on.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So when we talk about. So obviously the point of
bringing this up is testosterones were in marriage, is that
you know you had told me that you have heard
so many women that complain about this.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
And the funny thing is when you run around preaching
get on testosterone, get it on testosterone, and I'm telling
the wives, don't let him get on test off.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But here's but honestly, here's the thing. What would you
rather for me? Would you rather that I get healthier?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And obviously I'd rather you get healthier and live longer.
That's why I turned you on to this doctor. So obviously,
I'm just saying that there has to be some kind
of awareness that just because you're like, again, you're fifty four,
take away the testosterone. You wouldn't have this drive like
you have now.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Two years three years ago, there was no drive.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And by the way, then our intimacy level for you
probably would have been a lot more fulfilled. Because so
I'm just saying, there's this added thing that has come
in and it has changed in you. It doesn't mean
it's changed in me. And I just feel that there's
no give in it, because do.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You think to testosterone with more awareness of this? Because
I'm seeing a lot more guys that are my age
that are a lot of the guys. There's a lot
of people that I'm in kind of like a golf
community with where because I golf a lot, and I
never be honest with you. The reason why I golf
more now is I have more energy because of what
I'm doing. Before I would golf three times a year
(27:53):
and I fucking hated it. I didn't even like going
through eighteen holes. Now I'm obsessed with it, and that's
probably where my energy levels going towards, because well, we
won't go. But I do think that a lot of
the guys that I do know that are getting to
that age, because there's even guys that are that are
(28:14):
buddies of mine that are like young forties or late
thirties are telling me, man, I got no energy or.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Well they say that even men in their twenties have
low testosterone.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Now yeah, yeah. Do you think that this is going
to lead to relationships cheating in relationships? Or do you
think that this is going to lead to divorces because
people are going to feel like, Okay, now I feel
this great and my spouse is all they want to
do is sit at home.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I mean, listen, cheating was there before testosterone therapy, but.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Sorry, I just.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Kicked the chair. I think my testostermit that was I.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Think that if you don't open the communication and then
understand that, okay, just I'm getting jitterate here, just because
you are experiencing all of this, you have to and
it's a choice for you to inject that testosterone or
(29:10):
rub it on yourself, because you can also rub it
on you And I wonder also, by the way, I
will say this, you do it in our I am,
so you inject yourself in your muscle. There's also a
way that they're coming out now showing with research that
it's better for men, which I think would be labor intensive,
but you might enjoy it, where instead they just rub
(29:33):
it on their testicles twice a day because then it
keeps the level at a certain level when you inject,
you you know, peak and then go down, and then
peak and then go down. And so they're theoretically thinking
that it's better just to rub the cream on. And
I told Jess, okay, we'll switch them over to the
(29:53):
cream and then I'm gonna throw the cream away and
I'll well, put hope, what a lotion in it? He'll
think it's testosterone.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
But see, you and I are so different. I and
I have guy friends of mine who don't want their
wives to do all the beauty care to themselves because
they don't want their wife looking great. Like I know
guys two specifically who have made comments about, oh my god,
(30:23):
do you ever worry about Chelsea? You know, because how
great she looks, that guys are checking her out and
stuff like that. I actually like that, but I also
it does drive me a little bit crazy when our
intimacy level is not great, because it does make me. Yeah,
it makes my makes me get jealous.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
But that's only now because again of the testosterone.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, I do want to bring something else up, and
I want to talk about this because I think that
this is something big right now. We both openly talked
about taking in different types of medications and stuff, and
I listen. I have always been somebody that's talked about
my weight my entire career on radio. I think I've
done every product known to man, which honestly all have
(31:13):
worked for me somehow, But deep down inside, I think
that many of them were just quick fixes and a
lot of it was mindset, you know, that needed to
be there. I find it so interesting how there are
these different products that are out and people that are
doing them and losing weight don't want to talk about them.
(31:35):
Do you feel uncomfortable talking about it?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Because no, No, because I but I think because people
there there might be a little shame in it, which
is really sad. But people think that they're going to
be judged because they're taking the quote unquote easy way
out when it's not easy. I mean, the thing about
these glp ones, so the tuers appetite, some of glue,
Tideman Journal all that stuff, z on pick.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
It is meant for you to be used as a tool,
not just the only thing. So and there, it helps
cut back on cravings. Funny enough, like with alcohol, with sugars,
with like there's so many benefits to its cardio protective,
(32:20):
it's there are so many benefits to them. But unfortunately
it got the uh the label as the easy way out.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Well because a lot of celebrities were doing Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
But the thing is is that you also have to
work out with it. You also have to you know,
I've been on it for a very long time. Small
dose for a very long time. And it's wasn't the
weight that came off very easily.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I work out.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I there are a lot of things that I do
for my health that you know that is just a
little that's one of my tools in my tool box.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah. So well, and I will tell you know, tell
you this that you had kind of preached to me
because I wanted to start taking this and thought it
was just going to be something I can just take
and I won't eat and I'll lose weight. And you
had basically said to me, Hey, you got to get up,
you got to exercise, you got to do.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
This and if you go off of it, when you
go off of it, you will gain weight all of
the weight back. Plus more studies have shown if you don't,
it's a key to help you re look at everything
that you do. Make sure you're active, make sure you're
making better food choices and smaller food choices.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well that is and that's one of the things that
you and I have done a better job of is
making sure that we are eating better and h and
also making sure that with what we're not eating anymore,
like keeping things out of the house, right, all right,
So we talked about a bunch of fiftieth episode. This
(33:58):
is unbelievable, the fiftieth episode. Isn't that crazy to think?
So you read me yesterday in a DM from somebody
that's and it's one of like you say, yeah, I
get a couple of people like you get. I mean,
I don't know how many people follow the We Don't Podcast.
I know it's not a ton which, by the way,
(34:18):
please share that with people the We Don't Podcast Instagram page.
And we're going to do a better job this year
of making sure that we're on all the social platforms
and getting that out there. But the one thing that
I took from what that it sounded to me like
a woman who's raised kids our same age and have
been together for a while, was the relatability that you
(34:41):
share that they appreciated. And I want you to know
I do love doing this podcast. I actually love that
you and I for the last you know, thirty plus minutes,
have had an opportunity just to have a conversation that
I can now play for Dennis, my therapist, and have
him listen to and hear your voice on it. But
(35:03):
it also gives me an opportunity to be intimate with you.
And I know that you know, you think that everything
that I want is to have sex with you. But
I do enjoy just spending time with you. And even
though I don't show it and don't you know, show
it without you know, humping your leg, I do. And
(35:25):
I think that's pretty damn good for being together for
thirty two years. Because I'll be honest with you, I
think that there's probably a lot of people that have
been married for ten years that don't fucking want to
be around their.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Spouse through that. Definitely a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, so, and I hope that those people, if they
are listening to this, I hope that you don't just
start rubbing testosterone on your balls. Will you please tell
me about this lotion? I want to hear about that
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