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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's beginning to sound a lot like the holidays. The
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(00:21):
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Happy streaming.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Have you heard about the twenty eighteen study that showed
half of prenatal vitamins tested had unacceptable levels of heavy metals? No,
well now you have. I'm Kat, mother of three and
founder of Ritual, the company making traceability the new standard
in the supplement industry. I remember staring at my prenatal
vitamins and finding all these things. I was trying to
(00:55):
avoid high amounts of heavy metals, synthetic colorance, and unnecessary ingredients.
So at four months pregnant, I quit my job and
started Ritual because I believe that all women deserve to
know what they're putting in their bodies and why I'm
so proud of our pre Neeal vitamin. The ingredients are
one hundred percent traceable. It's third party tested for microbes
(01:16):
and heavy metals, and recently received the Purity Award from
the Clean Label Project. You see, we trace like a mother,
because let's be honest, no one cares quite like a mother.
But don't just take my word for it. Trace for
yourself with twenty five percent off at ritual dot com.
Slash podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So well, so a nine KBPI. Okay, fired up? Man.
This morning we've been talking, well, we talked about how
we're going to speak with Eric and dude. Eric, I
gotta tell you Eric from Shydown, Eric Bass, You've been
the basis for Shydown for years and years and years,
but something was burning, something deep down is as far
as you, you know, kind of an unwritten portion of
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of you know your story right, and this is probably
what drove you to do this exciting new venture. So
welcome to the show. Thanks for taking a minute to talk
to us and tell everybody what's going on.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Man, Thank you guys for having me. First of all,
it's good to talk to you. Has been a minute,
yeah yeah, man, So this is a this is a
concept album that I came up with quite quite a
bit ago. It is actually the first European tour in
the Attention Attention record. I was sitting in a in
a hotel room in Milan, Italy, of all.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Places, and I just got done with the work I
actually went to sitting. I just got done with the workout.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And in my room and you know, I had this
And some people think this is odd if you've never
had this experience, but a lot of people have. Or
you have a voice that kind of speaks to you
in your head, but it doesn't seem like you're a voice,
and I had that happen and it said, you might
want to write this down. Journal pulled out my journal,
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started writing down story ideas and actually for what is
going to become the graphic novel that goes with this
with this album, that.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The graphic novel will come out later next year.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
But started writing that story down.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So it's been the story has been brewing for a while.
And then as we got to the end of the
Attention Attention touring cycle, I was, you know, sort of
torn around with some of these musical ideas and I
talked to Brent. I was like, hey, man, are you
ready to write a record yet? You know, you're ready
to start working on the next Shine Down record? He
said absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So I had these.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Pieces of music and then you know, then COVID hit
and yeah, so I worked on this record through COVID basically,
and the story as well, but really, you know, solidified
the record. I actually finished writing and or sorry, I
finished recording the record. The last mix was done two
days before Brent and I started writing what would become
the Planet Zero record. I read that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I read that, and I was like, wow, man, it's
been sitting for a minute, because you know, you guys
stopped putting the Zero a while back, so it's been
done for a long time. Uh what made you? What
made you want to jump on board and release it
and do this little side project because that that didn't
his own right now, he's a big venture, right for
for a lot of artists that are secure in, you know,
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being a component, a large component is such a big
band and Shine Down to bitch out do your own thing.
You know, it's a little side project that that takes
some nerve and it's it's a little bit of a
you know, man, I hope people like it, or I
hope people get it or understand it is definitely a
roll the dice.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well, yeah, I mean it's not really about that, right.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
So I've got this.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Wonderful family and wonderful creative outlet and shine down. And again,
a lot of a lot of people think, you know,
you're doing a side project. Is they're troubled in Paradise?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Absolutely not, man, I couldn't be further from the truth.
In fact, the.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Guys in the band were the ones that really pushed
me to put the record out. I wasn't really sure
I was going to release it. It's just something I
made for myself, to be honest with you. At the
end of the day, I was kind of happy it existed.
I send it to some people to listen to. Uh,
you know, Clint Lowry from seven Dust got it pretty early.
He listened to it. My buddy Phil Demo formerly a
machine Head now in Category seven he listened to it,
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you know, And I sent it around, But I wasn't
really sure.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I was just kind of happy that I'd been able
to do this thing where I played all the interests,
wrote every lyrics, sang everything, produced it, mixed it, it
was kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
An extreme what a test to you and your skills, man,
to be able to say I did everything on this
that is that's some phenomenal and just an as scend
in his own right.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, I appreciate it, man, thank you. Yeah, and so
you know, but but my band's actually the ones that
that that pushed me to put this thing out and
to push it forward, and and uh, you know, man,
it's it's it's interesting going from uh, I joke about this,
I joke about being now to focused guy in the
band raise the bass player, like you know, you know
who paying attention to the bass player most of the time.
But going from that to to front man and all
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this other stuff with this album, you know, it's actually
it's pretty liberating, man. And and honestly, you know, these
are just characters and stories and and a lot of
my life is in this record. I mean, I realized
that I wrote probably the most autobiographical record I have
ever written, you know, speaking through these characters in this record,
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and you know, these stories basically at the end of
the day, you know, are about things I've experienced in
life and and and things I've been through. So you know,
it's just honestly, man, it's just it's just sort of
a need to to not to skirt around the band.
But you know, you want I get, I get to
bear a lot of my soul and shine down, I mean,
(06:22):
Brent and I write a lot of the lyrics. Yeah,
so a lot of it. You know, songs like Symptoms
Being Human and Monsters and and Planet Zero and cut
the Chord and all these songs. You know, these are
these are things that I've gotten to say via Shinedown.
But you know, there's there's always going to be this
little piece that's like, man, I wish I could just
say more and more more from my perspective about things.
(06:44):
So that's really what you know, what what what a
project like this is about.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So when you when you get it all done, it's produced.
You did every part of it, every piece of When
you hear it all put together and all finished and
polished up, what's the first reaction for you as a
guy that was the architect of all of it when
you hear everything, you know, it's one thing to do
one part, to layer it, to do the vocals, come back,
to do all these It's one thing to do all
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that piece by piece, but when you hear it, did
it come out like you were expecting? Is the story
told like you wanted it?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
You know, records are an interesting thing, and I have
a tendency to be a little woo woo about it,
you know, a little bit of spiritual about making records.
But but it's what I honestly believe is when you're
being guided through, you know, you're just kind of creating
something that wanted to do exist anyway, sure, and it's
going to become what it wants to be. And in
a minute that you start fighting back against that and
like trying to wrench it into this thing you think
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it's supposed to sound like. You know, you can you
can guide it again.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
You know, you have to push the.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Button, you have to play the instruments, you have to
turn the knobs. But at the end of the day,
it's becoming what it's going to be. So when I
listen back to it, you know the thing that I
I never really had anything in my mind's ear that
like I wanted it to be other than what it
was going to become. I mean, probably the biggest hurdle
to jump over that is the vocal stuff, because and Traditionally,
(08:03):
I'm not a lead singer, right I sing and Shine
Down probably eighty five percent of the show with Brent
every night, but as a background singer. And so when
you're writing melodies, sometimes you hear a voice in your
head it's going to sing this thing, but when you
open your mouth, that's not the voice that comes.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Out, you know, singing these things.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So that that would probably I would say, I have to
be The biggest hurdle is that. But honestly, man, at
the end of the day, when I listen back to
that record, it's the same way that I listen to
any other records I've made, any to Shine Down records
I've made, any records I've made for other arts, you know,
with other artists. Rather it's you know, there's this you
hear the scars in it, but that's what makes you
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hear the things. You maybe don't like a lot, but
that's what makes it unique. And there's a lot of
love for it. Man. At the end of the days,
it becomes this breathing thing, and you know, to the
point of releasing it or not releasing it. Another thing
that pushed me to do this was I saw an
interview with Rick Rubin, and he said, art is not
complete until you give it to some buddy. And so
(09:01):
I had this thing that I've made and I spent
all this time on and and he's right, you know,
for better or worse, you know, part of being scared
of releasing something to the world as part of the process, man.
And yeah, you got to be willing to go through that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So yeah, no that man. We're speaking with Eric Eric
Bass basis of Shindown. But what he's done lately and
and kind of while on tour and just you know,
assimbling this project on his own is called Eric Bass
Presents his debut album. I had a name out of
all the songs on the album, Eric, which one tells
(09:35):
the best story? In your opinion, your eyes, your viewpoint?
What story are we going to find out about you?
That's that's close. It's one that that maybe it was
a tough tell, maybe it wasn't, But which one is
most revealing them as far as your stories on the record?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, look, so there you know, the character in the
first single, mind Control is our bill in character, right,
who's the bar and and and that's a pretty easy
thing to g behold of when you when you listen
to the first song or you see the first video,
you know, you've got this this this dictator who's he's
sort of taken over this world and he's just maniacal dude.
But there's another character named Isalia, and her song on
(10:11):
the record, the song called Azalea, is really near and
dear to my heart, because you know, there's a it's
basically about perseverance, you know, and and and being at
a point where you want to give up and and
not doing that because they're there and there are reasons
why you don't give up. And so that was near
and dear to me. There's a song called good Night,
good Night, which is the fifth track on the record.
(10:34):
That's that's probably the most personal song to me. You know,
it's uh uh, you know, singing about uh and a
lot of this record, you know, if you want to
get to the nitty gritty of it, you know, surrounds
what goes on in my brain, my depression and you know,
the struggles with faith and things that a lot of
people go through. But the good Night good Night is
(10:55):
looking at like you know that child that you used
to be that everyone I think it's some point if
you had a good childhood and that has the caveat
but you kind of want to get back to that
in some way, but you never can. And so it's
saying good night to that piece of yourself, you know.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
So cool. Yeah, those if I think about those, those
two is Elia and.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Good night good Night are probably like two of the
closest ones to me for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Ellnyone's keeping an ear out for and looking forward to
the release. Eric Man. Congratulations, what another feather in the
cap for you as you continue on with Shine Down
and some of your solo stuff. Man, always cool to
keep you in our eyes and ears. Thanks for sharing
a little bit of that with us, and look forward
to hearing some of it man, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, absolutely, Man, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
And on top of the Eric Bass Presents, I had
a Name record that comes out February twenty eight. We're
working on a new Shining record that'll be out sometime
next year as well, so I have that to look
forward to.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It can't wait, man, can't wait?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Brother, you take care Jang, we said, hey, and it
always get catching out with Eric. All right.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
We appreciate you all. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I buddy, see man.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
It's beginning to sound a lot like the holidays. The
Roku Channel your home for free and premium TV is
giving you access to holiday music and genre based stations
from iHeart All for free. Find the soundtrack of the
season with channels like iHeart Christmas and North Pole Radio.
The Roku Channel is available on all Roku devices, Web, Amazon, fireTV,
(12:22):
Google TV, Samsung TVs, and the Roku Mobile app on
iOS and Android devices. So stream what you love and
turn up that cheer with iHeartRadio on the Roku Channel.
Happy streaming.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Have you heard about the twenty eighteen study that showed
half of pre netal vitamins tested had unacceptable levels of
heavy metals? No, well now you have. I'm Kat, mother
of three and founder of Ritual, the company making traceability
the new standard in the supplement industry. I remember staring
at my pre netal vitamins and finding all these things.
(12:55):
I was trying to avoid high amounts of heavy metals,
synthetic colorants, and unnecessary ingredients. So, at four months pregnant,
I quit my job and started Ritual because I believe
that all women deserve to know what they're putting in
their bodies and why I'm so proud of our pre
needal vitamin. The ingredients are one hundred percent traceable. It's
third party tested for microbes and heavy metals, and recently
(13:18):
received the Purity Award from the Clean Label Project. You see,
we trace like a mother, because let's be honest, no
one cares quite like a mother. But don't just take
my word for it. Trace for yourself with twenty five
percent off at ritual dot com. Slash Podcast