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February 12, 2025 35 mins
Rep. Jeff Crank (R, CO-5) joins Ryan to update on House votes in Washington, D.C. as well as confirmation votes on tap for Trump cabinet nominees in the Senate and Trump's whirlwind of accomplishments over his first three weeks in office.

Kelsey Currence makes a cameo appearance on the program, and her first as Ryan's intended (the French call it a 'fiancée') following their New Year's Eve engagement. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's not exactly sweeping the nation this song that
I trotted out for the listeners, and just I want
to honestly see, hear or read how it grabbed you.
And well, the reaction has been pretty uniformly negative. David texts,
why must you make our ears bleed? And I heard that,

(00:22):
like in Michael Scott's voice from the office, Why are
you the way that you are? I hate so much
the things you choose to be Ryan, stop this song.
I will pay you richly. I appreciate the sentiment. I mean,
I've even got a text here from World County Sheriff

(00:44):
Steve Reems and he says you might be putting your
SCC license in peril with that crap. Well, in case
you're just tuning in, no, I hear you yelling at
your radios. Look, I've been playing this in mere morsels
digestible in did you I guess, uh like cat food?
Morsels that are probably taste a lot like cat food,

(01:04):
or maybe even worse. But just to give you an
idea what we're dealing with here, these are the democrats
outside protesting. They don't have anything better to do at
the time on their hands.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We all know that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Case, protesting Doge and Elon Musk and the cuts he's
looking to make, the audits he's looking to perform, the
wasteful spending he's looking to expose.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
They don't like that. They don't like that one bit. Oh,
we're shot? Are you on mine?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Which side are you on?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Me?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
We're shot?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Are you on?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Where side are you on?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
They say? In the Capital City, the Nontrals found you're leader.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
With the union, are a scavvy musk plood hound?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
What uh?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
The voting roles? Donald Trump did better with unionized labor.
I think since maybe any Republican ever, and certainly since
Ronald Reagan and the Reagan Democrats in nineteen eighty four,
and again prior to that in nineteen eighty it was
so bad for union figureheads that they had a hard

(02:23):
time making endorsements. I remember UAW back in my home
state of Michigan, tried to endorse Kamala Harris and the workers.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
They weren't having it.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
By and large, the rank and file unionized auto workers
in Michigan and elsewhere in the country supported Donald Trump.
Why would that be if he's so anti union looking
to bust up unions? No, that was not the case. Okay,
I'll spare you anymore of that, at least for now,
but if you misbehave, I've got a trigger button right

(02:55):
here ready to fire that song once again.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Let's get to more.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Airtecht at five seven seven three nine Stephen Littleton, retired
law enforcement officer Like you, I can just imagine what
Rush would be saying about the lefty lunatics. He would
be having a field day. Indeed, he would Steve and
I miss him dearly, especially around the time of the year.
The holidays were always special to Rush, and I remember

(03:20):
the last Christmas episode that he did before he died,
I believe was early February the following year, and I
go back and I listened to that from time to
time because his words always will ring true forever and
throughout the annals of his history. But at the holidays especially,
he tended to make more evergreen comments about who we
are as a country, and why we are as a country,

(03:42):
and why we're your special, why it matters, And I
invite you to.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Do the same.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
You probably find it online on YouTube or something like that.
This one's about the Penny Ryan. The Penny takes two
point seven cents to make. The nickel takes fourteen point
eight cents to make, dimes and quarters call less than
face value to make. Why is it just pennies are
not made anymore when it's now going to cost more
to make more nickels to cover penny loss adjustments should

(04:10):
have stopped making both. It'll be one after the other.
I think you might be right on that. And Donald
Trump said this, he was, I think, posting about it
on True Social during the Super Bowl. It's something that
Governor Jared Poulas says voice support for as well, getting
rid of the penny. We are less and less living

(04:31):
in a cash based society too. I rarely carry cash
because I am afraid of losing and getting it stolen,
losing my walle you know all. That's that sort of
thing whereas he lose a car, he just cancel it. Plus, oh,
I got to get this in from a local perspective.
This hit a little close to home, and I'm talking
directly near my home. I live in Greenwood Village just

(04:52):
south of Denver. And this from nine News earlier today.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
We've learned the person shot at an rt D station
in Greenwood Village yesterday died the coroner confirmed that to us,
but the police will not give any additional details, and
as of now, no one has been arrested. Police say
not only was one person shot, a second victim was
also assaulted at the Dayton RTD station off of I
two twenty five just after three yesterday afternoon. We do

(05:17):
not know how the second person is doing. Greenwood Village
police say they saw on surveillance cameras which direction the
suspects ran, but again, no one has been arrested.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And it's been arrested. But can you give us a
description of the suspects. Apparently they were caught running on
video and if not, why not? I wonder Now the
Dayton station, that's I mean, there's you got Dayton, you
got Bellevue, you go down to Orchard from there. It's
that crux of where the I guess the R line goes.
And I've used it many times coming back from the

(05:48):
airport or even going to the airport.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I've used light reel.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'll go downtown to a concert or something. But this
is happening at a station like that, I don't know.
Seems to be a disincentive from using public transportation. If
this can just erupt out of nowhere. The seventeen year
old was shot fatally. We don't know a lot more
details other than that. The only question I was posed
to listeners out there is whether or not you use

(06:14):
RTD if you find it to be a preferable alternative
to driving in traffic on I twenty five, especially at
peak hours or during major events, or if something like
this might cause you to shy away from using that
and just endure the traffic five seven seven three nine.
Let's go back to the Democrats and see how they're
handling things. This is a representative Maxine Dexker, Democrat, oregon O.

(06:39):
This should be good, and I think she got this wrong,
but maybe not.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I just I've been told I have thirty seconds, so
I am going to tell you that we do have
to I don't swear in public very well, but we.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Have to Trump.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Please, please don't tell my children.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
That I just did that.

Speaker 8 (07:12):
Well.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm sure he appreciates the offer. I have to believe
the response would be something like he gave Egene Carroll.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You look at her, you can just do the math.
She's not my type.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, you have to do what to Trump? I mean, no, no,
I don't think that's where she was going with that,
or trying to at least well the media narrative and
representative Jeff Craigil join us in just a couple of moments,
was revolving around this is something a common thread that
I've tried to instruct you all about and how you
consume your news from a critical eye standpoint, a critical

(07:44):
ear standpoint. Remember the nine news package and we heard
the four quotes from the women in gender studies professor
at CU Boulder is like the authority on the issue
as to whether gender neutral restrooms were a good idea,
and they didn't get a single sol from the other
side to counter that. Well, I did Jennifer say, and
you heard what she had to say, pun intended. Listen

(08:06):
to Kitlyn Collins here CNN. She's a real trip.

Speaker 9 (08:08):
We are three weeks into the second Trump presidency, three
weeks and tonight there are warnings that the US is
dangerously close to a constitutional crisis.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Now.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
The first shoe on this dropped when a federal judge
today said the White House is defying his order to
unfreeze billions of dollars in federal aid, marking the first
time that We've had a judge expressly accused the Trump
administration of ignoring a court ruling.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
And in a.

Speaker 9 (08:33):
Separate case today, federal employees here in Washington told a
judge that the administration was defying another order by not
reinstating workers who have been put on leave. Now, this
all has prominent democrats and many of the nation's top
constitutional scholars declaring that the US is on the brink
of a reckoning. The Trump Justice Department says the president
should have the authority to decide how to run the government,

(08:55):
and that these judges are overreaching. And so the president's
allies say the judges should not be judging any of
the moves to shrink the federal government.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Did you catch what she did there? This is not
a journalistic device. This is a propaganda device. This part
right here.

Speaker 9 (09:10):
Now, this all has prominent democrats and many of the
nation's top constitutional scholars declaring that the US is on
the brink of a reckoning.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Who are these.

Speaker 9 (09:20):
Of the nation's top constitutional scholars.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Who are the nation's top constitutional scholars?

Speaker 8 (09:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do you mean like Lawrence tribe An in the tank? Lib?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Or would she bother to do her homework and maybe
contact somebody like Jonathan Turley or Alan Dershowitz.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I'm pretty sure they are not the.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
Democrats and many of the nation's top constitutional scholars.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
That she's looking for, because they don't confirm her narrative
and where she wants to take the story. So that
is what I call the table setting. Caitlin Collins comes
through with the premise in this one minute intro that
we are dangerously close to a constitutional crisis. These constitutional
experts seem to think so, and then they platform a
total in the tank lib leftist kami like Senator Chris

(10:06):
Murphy to reinforce that narrative.

Speaker 10 (10:08):
I think this is the most serious cons crisis the
country has faced, certainly since Watergates. The president attempting to
seize control of power and for corrupt purposes. The president
wants to be able to decide how and where money
is spent so that he can reward his political friends,
he can punish his political enemies. That is the evisceration

(10:30):
of democracy.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh, is it I thought Russia collusion was the biggest
constitutional crisis since Watergate? Or was it the phone call
to Ukraine that President Trump was absolutely correct about in
his assumptions that the Biden crime family was setting up
shop of Barisma in Ukraine, and he wanted Zelensky to
keep an eye out for that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now they feel like we must have been in a.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Coma for the four years of the president's first term. Luckily,
we have somebody like Caroline Levitt to set the record
straight and call the fake news out.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
She did that today.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Before I take questions, I would like to address an
extremely dishonest narrative that we've seen emerging over the past
few days. Many outlets in this room have been fear
mongering the American people and so believing there is a
constitutional crisis taking place here at the White House. I've
been hearing those words a lot lately. But in fact,
the real constitutional crisis is taking place within our judicial branch,

(11:30):
where district court judges and liberal districts across the country
are abusing their power to unilaterally block President Trump's basic
executive authority. We believe these judges are acting as judicial
activists rather than honest arbiters of the law.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Exactly this constitutional crisis narrative talking point construed concocted by
the left the mainstream media hand in hand Senator Murphy
and then you see it catch fire and like you said,
no ball rolling down hill at gains momentum.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Where did it come from? We don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
We consulted with these constitutional experts and they say it's
a crisis. Let's go to a guy that I trust
far more than anybody I just mentioned. That's Representative Jeff
Craig from the fifth Congressional District. He joins us on
Ryan Schuling Live, Congressman.

Speaker 11 (12:16):
Welcome back, Hey, Ryan, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
We're just over three weeks in here we see a
gentleman and Mark Fogel who was freed by the Russians
after President Trump employed diplomacy with the Russian government, and
Vladimir Putiney was on the phone with him today as
well as Vladimir Zelenski. How would you sum up these
three plus weeks of Trump's second term winning.

Speaker 11 (12:40):
I mean, look, I mean that's what the President's been doing,
and we see it time and time again. I mean,
you know, I'm not a big fan of tariffs, Ryan,
but I mean, let's face it, the threat of tariffs,
you know, brought other leaders, you know, to negotiate with
us on sending home, sending back illegal immigrants and all

(13:02):
kinds of stuff. So, you know, I think they're great
for a negotiating tool. But that's what Trump does, right,
is he uses things. And I don't know, you know,
I mean, obviously he's done some tariffs, but he I
think to employ those was brilliant to try and get
them to the point where they wanted to negotiate with us.

(13:23):
And this is another thing. I mean, he's not going
to take no for an answer. He's going to try
and negotiate and get hostages released.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
He likes to win.

Speaker 11 (13:31):
You know. That's a lot different than the previous president
that we had that just kind of slept through the day.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, we've heard it from the left over these last
several days as they've been kicking and streaming and protesting
and demonstrating and singing horrible songs that we don't want
to listen to. That I've tortured my listeners. Without Elon Musk,
an unelected bureaucrat going after unelected bureaucrats, with Doge looking
under the rocks of us AID and other agencies. The

(14:00):
Democrats are losing their minds. I noticed Republicans not so much.
Why is this a purely partisan reaction?

Speaker 11 (14:07):
Well, and I just by the way, I just came
out of a committee and we had to vote down
twenty amendments from the Democrats. All of them were, oh,
we hate Elon Musk. We need to investigate Elon Musk.
And so it's like they now have transferred their Trump
derangement syndrome to Elon derangement syndrome.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I guess.

Speaker 11 (14:27):
But look what, they don't seem to be upset about
all the money that was being wasted at USAID, right,
I mean, that's the point of all of this. Obviously,
we need to make sure that people's privacy is protected,
that citizens data isn't just handed over to the government
or to a private company. But that's not what's happened here.

(14:51):
These folks are just using this because this is the
lightning rod. They want to make this about the evil,
you know, the evil billionaire Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Give me a break.

Speaker 11 (15:00):
Let's talk about the billions that are being ripped off
from the American taxpayer that he's uncovering.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, I trust Elon Musk a lot more with evaluating
that than I do those inside the Beltway like Elizabeth
Warren or Jasmine Crockett. Representative Jeff Crank our guest. He
represents the fifth Congressional district in Colorado Springs and the
surrounding area there. I just want to get your comments
real briefly here, Jeff, because it is a factor in
Colorado Springs and a lot of the outlying areas in

(15:27):
the state of Colorado, and that is energy production. We've
got a couple of statements from your neighboring Congresswoman, Representative
Lauren Bobert, one on the nomination of Kathleen Scamma, who
I know somewhat person lamb intervieweder before, is the director
of the Bureau of Land Management. She can't join us yet,
but I like that it's going in a Colorado direction there.
And then Representative Bobert also writing a letter to the

(15:50):
new Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, about acres of private land
across Prowers, Kiowa, Baca Counties three hundred and twenty five thousand
acres and a whole lot more throughout the state that
appears to be landlocked by the Biden administration and acting
some form of eminent domain so that energy exploration cannot
happen on those lands as broadly or as narrowly as
you'd like. To address it energy in Colorado. Where does

(16:13):
it go from here?

Speaker 11 (16:15):
Well, on the two points that you mentioned. First, first
of all, Kathleen Scam I know Kathleen well, I've known
her for many years. It's great to have a Colorado
at BLM. But more important than that, it's great to
have someone like Kathleen who is very strong on property rights.
She's going to be a real advocate for us, and

(16:36):
she's the perfect choice for BLM. So I'm thrilled about that.
On this other deal, look, Lauren Boberton, I just talked
with her on the floor, and I'm fully supportive of
what she's doing. This project is a green energy project
where they want to go in and declare imminent domain,
and you know, I'm opposed to that, especially for a

(16:58):
green energy project like this. It's already been rejected in
other states. It's already been run out of town in
a couple of other states, as I understand it. And look,
Lauren's fighting for the citizens.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Of her district and of Colorado.

Speaker 11 (17:15):
They don't want it there. They certainly don't want it
if it includes imminent domain to come in and just
take people's properties. So she's doing the right thing there.
And I will help however I can. I will help
worn in that battle.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
One other point I'd like you to make, and you
can really address this, Jeff, from your current post as
a congressman and also in this post that I occupy
as a former radio host, And that is the direction
of the Republican Party here in Colorado. You and I
talked about this the last time around, and now I'm
seeing noise online Facebook, people going after Jeff Hurd is
he's some kind of rhino and he's not a true

(17:51):
Republican and he doesn't pass the litmus test whatever they employ.
And I would again reiterate that Donald Trump, in a
lot of ways would not pass this litmus test that
some are trying to apply on members of your party.
And of the four members of Congress that were lucky
enough to have here in Colorado, a blue state, but
we split our congressmen and women evenly four to four

(18:12):
with Jeff heard yourself, Gabe Evans, and Representative Lauren Bobert.
What would you say to people out there that are
wanting a purity party of the Republican Party here in Colorado?
And where do we go from here to build a
bigger party? I know you and I are both interested
in doing just that.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, well, you know, Ryan.

Speaker 11 (18:31):
I mean, first of all, you know, I'm guessing if
you looked at my voting record so far in Congress,
I bet I have one hundred percent voting record with
the president. Right, It's not going to surprise me if
Jeff Heard doesn't have one hundred percent voting record with
the president. I suspect I maybe not voted the same
as Jeff on maybe one vote to vote something like that.

(18:52):
The same thing is true of Lauren Bobert.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
You know, these.

Speaker 11 (18:56):
People that just want to divide the party for their
own personal gain. Really, they're despicable, and I don't know
any other way to say it. They're only doing it
to advantage themselves. They don't care if Republicans win or lose.
They're trying to make it better for themselves within the party.
And the great example of that is Lauren Bobert. You know,

(19:17):
she was the one that they all looked to, and
then all of a sudden, she came out and opposed
Dave Williams in a letter that we sent, the four
of us sent, and they viciously attacked her in a
way that really was unsavory. And what that shows you
is this isn't about principle. To them, it's not about

(19:40):
being for limited government or being pro live for being
any of that. All it's about is their own personal ambition.
And it's really sad and it's sickening. And look, if
we're going to win as Republicans one, we need to
stick together. We can't be attacking one another. We should
hold people accountable if they truly are often not being conservative.

(20:03):
But I got to tell you we're all fairly conservative.
I mean, you know, they haven't criticized me on any votes.
They'll criticize me on other things. They'll say things because
it's easy to do that, but they don't have any
proof of it. And you know the fact that they
were big fans of Lauren Bobert and then all of

(20:24):
a sudden you got a couple of people on that
side attacking Lauren Bobert tells you everything you need to
know about their intentions.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Follow him on x at Jeff Crank that's cr A
n K and he is, of course a freshman congressman
along with Gabe Evans and Jeff Hurd, joining Representative Lauren
Bobert fighting the good fight for the America First movement.
And like you said, Jeff, we are pulling in the
same direction. We want the same things for this country.
It's been a tremendous a couple of few weeks here

(20:53):
of Donald Trump accomplishments just with the executive orders and
the national and the international stage. So we look forward
to more conversations with you about this and again for
all of us to call us form that winning coalition,
pull in the same direction and get wins post w's
on the board.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Like you said, it's all about winning.

Speaker 11 (21:12):
Yeah, it is all about winning. And look, I mean
President Trump talked about that the other day down in
Miami when I was there. He talked about this being
a Republican team, and we've got a two vote margin
to get things through the House. If the President's going
to have victories, we're going to have to stick together.
It's awfully hard sometimes to stick together when you got

(21:33):
your own constituents and your own people who are supposed
to be on your team, and the Republican Party shooting
at you for their own personal gain. So let's stick together,
Let's be conservative, Let's fight for America and fight for
America First, and fight to help President Trump.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
All right, Jeff, I'll let you get back to work.
Thank you so much for taking a few minutes with us,
and I'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Thanks.

Speaker 11 (21:56):
Ryan.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Congressman Jeff Crank right there.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
If you live in Colorado Springs and are represented by
him in that fifth Congressional district, let me just say,
you're lucky I get Jason Crowe. So I'm going to
just adopt whether it's Jeff Kerk, Gabe Evans, or Lauren
Bobert or Jeff Hurd, and they're going to represent my
interest a whole heck of a lot better than Jason
crow is. We'll take this time out, come back with
your text, your reaction. Five seven, seven thirty nine. I'm

(22:19):
Ryan Schuling live and now everybody's favorite Democratic Congress with
another edition of based Fetterman.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
And then like, for example, you know, the new leadership
of the DNC, the vice chair, you know, abolish ice
and now the other things saying, you know, defund the
police and those things. You know, I'm concerned that we
really haven't paid attention on what happened, and we have.
We looked up at the scoreboard and been like, oh,

(22:57):
by the way, we've lost.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, they haven't done that.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
And please Democrats continue not listening to John Fetterman back
here on Ryan's Shulding Live. I hope they continue listening
to Jasmine Crockett and Ayana Presley. I gotta go back
to this one because I think this one's getting lost
in the shuffle. Listen carefully to what she says. Was
this this slip of the tongue? Was this a faux pas?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Was this a mistake or was it intentional? You'd be
the judge.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Look, let me tell you something. I'll take a bit
of umbridge here. I'll speak on behalf of my colleagues.
I'm I can say we are all willing to work
with anyone who's serious about doing the work of censoring
the American people and advancing progress.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
But they are not serious to silence in response, and
that's from wacko lefties out there to protest Doze and
Elon Musk, and.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
They go, I don't think I can get behind that.
Censoring Americans.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's apparently what she wants to do and apparently what
she's comfortable doing, and these leftists like her. And now
she represents a district that is basically Boston. And you
remember Corey Bush who was voted out in a primary.
She represented Saint Louis. Jamal Bawman, mister fire alarm guy.
He was a precinct in New York City, and so

(24:12):
is AOC. And Rashida Talib, well, she's kind of in
a dearborn Ye kind of Detroit thing.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And then you got to Ilhan Omar, she's Minneapolis.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
So these are deep blue urban districts where they have
any chance of losing unless somebody runs against them. That
is sane as a Democrat in a primary, so they've
got nothing to lose. But Huayana Presley is talking to
are these liberal coastal elite Bostonians, many of whom have

(24:43):
college degrees, and they just think that they're smarter than you,
and they're well, they're better than you, and they live
their lives and they have more interesting experiences than you.
So yeah, you know, what you say doesn't really matter
and we don't need to hear from you, so we're
just gonna censor you. We're gonna label everything you try
to do is misinformation, disinformation, mail information. I've heard that too,

(25:06):
m al information, malicious information. And of course this only
comes from one side of the political spectrum, ours the right,
the red side, and never comes from the left. They
don't engage in misinformation disinformation, they don't cloud the waters
at all with their opinions. And oh wait, they do
do that, but they're not used to not having the

(25:28):
levers of power. Be it Twitter now X Facebook. I mean,
I gotta tell you Mark Zuckerberg red pilled maybe a little,
maybe not a lot like Joe Rogan, but he is
not in the tank for the left anymore, and I
give him credit. I want to welcome him in. This
is kind of the theme for the day. We want
to build our coalition, we want to broaden our tent.

(25:50):
We want to welcome people in. We don't want to
ostracize people or try to guilt them. You're white and
male and straight. You should feel three for three guilty
about who you are.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
If I did something wrong, I would fess up to
it and take ownership and responsibility. She continues here too,
She's just she's not a heater. Ayana Presley, I present
once again, there.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Is a movement it's coming from and Jackson spoke to
that continues to gain momentum throughout the country.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
So it's not just black folks that are that are
self interested in this. This is people of conscience that
recognize the power and the necessity of the work of
truth and reconciliation and healing. And there is precedent. We
have done this for Native American, for indigenous people, we
have done this for Japanese Americans. So when people say, well,

(26:44):
my family didn't own slaves, why should I care about this, Well,
you know, we were able to do truth, reconciliation and
the work of the reparative work for Japanese Americans, you know,
and not everybody played a role in that either.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
You know who did play a role in that.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
One of your heroes, Leanna Presley, Democrat President of the
United States, Franklin Delano Roosevelt set up Japanese internment camps.
There's a stain on our legacy and on our history.
And a Democrat president did that. Japanese Americans who were
here legally, but we feared they might be loyal to
the Emperor of Japan, so we put them in camps.

(27:22):
Democrats did that, and yeah, there was some kind of
retribution for them because we could identify exactly who they
were within their own lifetimes. How many generations removed is
any one African American person from slavery in the United States?
And if we are going to go down this road,

(27:43):
and I really don't like to, but it needs to
be done from just a standpoint of how do we
sort this out? You know the lofts all about eugenics
and Margaret Sanger and selective abortions and all that which
happened to target black kids. I might add, but let's
not veer from the point.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Not all Black.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Americans are African Americans. Not all of them descended from slaves.
Many come from points elsewhere. Sonny Houston did one of
those genealogy studies, and in fact, some of her ancestors
were slaveholders. Sonny Hoston Kamala Harris, I believe the same
with her father, who told her to pipe down on
that issue because guess what, your ancestors, Kamala Harris, have

(28:24):
ties to the slave trade.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
So how do we do this. Let's break through the math.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'm not talking Elizabeth Warren one Oney twenty fourth Native
American style, but do we appropriate the reparations based on
the percentage of a human that has slavery ancestry.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Is that how we're going to do this? And if not,
why not?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And if you're just gonna have this blanket claim that well,
and I think this is where she's going with it.
Aana Presley, all Black Americans, regardless of ancestry, background, et cetera, history,
personal family tree, get reparations.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, hold on, why would that be.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
There's no fair way to do this where too many
generations removed. If there were actual slaves or I would
even say, like sons are daughters of slaves that had
that direct lineage that you could trace and it was
in that moment reconstruction what have you, then yeah, they
would be entitled to that.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
But this is apples and oranges.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
This argument comparing it first to Japanese Americans, totally incongruous
comparison and argument from World War Two. That's just two
generations removed from me personally, by the way, my grandfather
fought for the United States in World War Two. And
for Native Americans, you know, they do go by. I

(29:43):
think you have to be I want to get this
right because I used to live and work in Mount Pleasant, Michigan,
which is neighboring up against the Saginaw Chippewa Indian tribe,
and even that name is a misnomer. Chippewa was the
French miss pronunciation of Ojibwa, which is the language that

(30:04):
the Chippewa Indians speak. The Central Michigan University College team
is still called the Chippewas, and they work hand in
hand with the Native Americans and the reservation there, but
they have rights on monthly payment basis. For those that
are members of the tribe that I think have ancestry
at least fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I think it has been north of fifty percent.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
It could be wrong on that detail, but nevertheless, Native
Americans chart their own they have their own records on
this matter. This is wide open left to interpretation. Wokeism
run amok, and then you run in the inconvenient and
uncomfortable examples of Sunny Host and Kamala Harrison many others.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well half of my lineage were descended from.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Slaves, but on the other hand, the other half descended
from slaveholders. So there's that zero out. Does half of
you pay the other half? Do you write a check
and then go cash it yourself at your own bank
and say, hey, I made reparations to myself, because I'm
half one thing and I'm half the other. For my part,
that's the only person I speak for, because I've done
the research. She makes this point too. I have zero

(31:11):
percent ancestry of any slaveholder ever on either side of
my family tree, mother or father.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
None.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I don't feel I should have to pay reparations. Not
only did I not do anything wrong, but even people
I had no control over my ancestors trace them back.
I'll show you my family tree. None of them own slaves.
I mean, maybe you go back to Roman times when
I'm talking about the last ten generations, going back to
the Netherlands in Great Britain circus sixteen hundred or so.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's a stupid game that they play. She's just out.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
There, and this is exactly what Representative Crank was talking about.
This is a racket to make money, to gin up
animosity and to feed and feast off of that animosity.
It's never designed to get to a literal and this
is never going to happen. But to the people in
her district who she's speaking to, it's red meat or

(32:05):
blue meat, and it's not red because we're red. We'll
take this time out. Kelsey Currency is in the house.
She's my Hi, Kelse Hi, she is not my fiance. Hey,
and I don't know if I've announced that on the
radio because I wanted to have you here.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I don't know how I roped her into.

Speaker 12 (32:21):
It, but you asked congratulations to me, congratulations to us all, thanks.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
For being here, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, before we go to break, just to explain, Kelsey
was on the radio with me. This is the second
time we had ever encountered one another, at least in conversation.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
When I was filling in for Michael Brown on the
situation and she came in, she was all dialed up.
She got it was right now, gussied up and then
not knowing that in the world of radio while we
dressed like this.

Speaker 12 (32:51):
Yes, yeah, I showed it. So I talked to my
mom about it. I told her I had this great
date with this great guy. I really liked him, got
all the butterflies and stuff, and he invited me to
be on the radio and oh my god, what do
I wear? And she's like, well, you have to at
least wear a blazer. She wanted me to wear a
full suit, which you've gotten to. We got to spend

(33:13):
some time with my mom this weekend. It was fun,
super fun. She's a great lady and I was like, well,
I'm not gonna wear a full suit, all her jeans
and a suit coat. And I show up and you're
in pajamas.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
So they're lucky that got me in there at all
at that hour.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
As you now well know, yes, not a morning person
she is, so we kind of balance each other out.
But I want to thank her on the air because
she is filling in for Kelly Cacera, and I'll get
into more reasons why along those lines.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
She's fine, but she's tending to a family matter.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
She's lost her father and I know that has affected
her deeply, and I know a lot of you out
there and our world of listeners care very deeply about Kelly.
So I want to give a tribute to her day.
And when we come back after this on Ryan Schuling Live.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
It's a nasty wid wedding. It's an.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
We're in Arizona this weekend visiting Kelsey's mom and stepdad
and they're both wonderful people, and Kelsey happened to pick
out her dress. That's the song, and I'm not allowed
to see it. I have no idea what it looks like,
literally none. It's beautiful, but it's going to stay that
way right like it has too. It's like a superstitious thing.

Speaker 12 (34:31):
Yeah, a thing.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
But you're pleased, you are, or so I have read.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
So my mom is keeping it.

Speaker 12 (34:40):
Under their couch.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
So that's a great place for.

Speaker 12 (34:44):
It because it so there's some of the fabric is
kind of it's it's one of a kind. So yeah,
so the lace that they used is hand me. Yeah,
there's late you're given away. Yeah, there's I know, I
got a picture in my mind. Your picture in your
head is not what it is. But the lace is

(35:05):
all hands sewn, and so if you leave it hanging,
it could the weight of the dress could damage the lace.
So you have to lay it flat. Okay, Well, she's
hiding it under the couch.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
We'll pick it up from there.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
My best to Kelly Couchera who is in California celebrating
the life of her father who passed earlier this week.
Kelsey the reason you hear her. She is filling in
for Kelly today. Our best wishes to the entire route
and could scare a families. Dan Caplis is next. This
has been Ryan schuling live
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