In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Ryan spends a little time talking about the pagentry of Super Bowl week and then discusses the stark difference between Donald Trump's second term and the Joe Biden presidency.
Then, Dr. Brian Erkkila, Director of Regulatory Science for Swedish Match North America joins Ryan to discuss the FDA announcing authorization for the marketing of 20 ZYN nicotine pouch products following a scientific review. Also, Philip Morris is proposing a $600 million investment in Aurora, Colorado for a manufacturing facility to produce smoke-free nicotine products - creating 500 jobs in the city.
Also, how does Robert F. Kennedy's pending confirmation to head Health and Human Services affect the industry after the Denver city council voted to ban flavored smoke-free nicotine products?
Philip Morris International U.S. Affiliate to Create 500 Jobs Investing $600 Million in Aurora, Colo., Manufacturing Facility | Business Wire
FDA Authorizes Marketing of 20 ZYN Nicotine Pouch Products after Extensive Scientific Review | FDA
Dr. Erkkila was formerly the lead Toxicologist at the FDA’s Center for Tobacco Products, where he was responsible for determining which products made their way to market.
Then, Dr. Brian Erkkila, Director of Regulatory Science for Swedish Match North America joins Ryan to discuss the FDA announcing authorization for the marketing of 20 ZYN nicotine pouch products following a scientific review. Also, Philip Morris is proposing a $600 million investment in Aurora, Colorado for a manufacturing facility to produce smoke-free nicotine products - creating 500 jobs in the city.
Also, how does Robert F. Kennedy's pending confirmation to head Health and Human Services affect the industry after the Denver city council voted to ban flavored smoke-free nicotine products?
Philip Morris International U.S. Affiliate to Create 500 Jobs Investing $600 Million in Aurora, Colo., Manufacturing Facility | Business Wire
FDA Authorizes Marketing of 20 ZYN Nicotine Pouch Products after Extensive Scientific Review | FDA
Dr. Erkkila was formerly the lead Toxicologist at the FDA’s Center for Tobacco Products, where he was responsible for determining which products made their way to market.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tariffs.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You don't have to be smart in economics to know
this pushes the E, This pushes the EU, This pushes Canada,
This has pushes Mexico into the.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Arms of China.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
The unintended consequences of it we don't know yet, and
they will likely be far larger than any of us
can calculate.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Tay, goodbye to your avocado toast and you're tequila. We
are going to see real pain.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And again it's not actually going to address the pensional crisis.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
These aur are friends, and we are treating them like trash.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We are bullying them.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Now He's going to tax on tequila and avocados.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
Yeah, not even twenty four hours and they're already exposed
for the fools that they are. Ryan Schuling lyve with
you your texts at five, seven, seven, three nine, start those, Ryan,
if you would please. Jesse Thomas alongside not long before
he sets sail for Arizona in spring Train and the
Colorado Rockies and all that. So we're gonna savor the
(01:02):
flavor of Jesse Thomas while he's here, and a Rod
will be joining us in our number two reporting live
from the super Bowl side of the Super Bowl in
New Orleans, Louisiana. He was with us yesterday and now
he's been able to compile some sound from media Access,
which happens on the Tuesday before the Super Bowl that
(01:23):
is customary. Now, before we get in all the political stuff, Jesse,
you kind of dropped a bombshell on me that I
was both surprised and impressed by how.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Many Super Bowls have you been to? Well? To cover three? Three? Yep,
And I was back in the day.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
We're the original nine to fifty to fan for those
that remember that, sure on the old building in Jefferson
Pilot Communications on Monaco and Mississippi there.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Wow, yep.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
So yeah, I've been to a three as a working
guy and two as a fan.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
One of them one as a fan. I don't really
remember that well.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
I was nineteen eighty seven the Broncos Super Bowl at
the Rose Bowl against the Giants that they lost.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I remember the living Huntington Beach at the time.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
And big Bronco fans obviously, and I was a little
too young to really enjoy it. But yeah, I've been
to two as a fan and three is a working Now.
You know, when you're working them, you don't really get
to go to the Super Bowl. I mean you pretty
much work all week and then you fly home and
watch it on TV like everybody else. Oh, that's pretty
much what happens. Nobody gets tickets to it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
You were telling me though, the first one is the
best one, and nothing compares after that one.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
First one is awesome because you know, this the spectacle,
and you know, Radio Row is awesome, and everybody and
their mom's trying to sell a book or some sort
of you know what I mean. Yeah, they do it
a little different nowadays than back in the day. But
and then you know Friday at five and everybody hits
the bricks and flies home.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Nobody has tickets. Yeah, and they're godly.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I spend.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Certainly we're in the wrong business to afford a value.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
And they both Barry Sanders, I remember he was hawking
goods and services and products.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so forth. And he's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
He's just the one that comes to mind because he's
the all time greatest detroit lyon And of course the
trit Lions will never make the Super Bowl, if not
this year. I just I just don't see it ever happening.
I know, I sound like a negative Nancy, But hey,
I'm a Lions fan.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I get to do that, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Anything that stands out as a highlight from any of
the Super Bowls that you either covered or attended as
a fan.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Well, the parties, yeah, I mean Radio Rose one thing,
because the guests pretty much they come, their agents, their
handlers pretty much walk them up to you if they
have something to sell. It's really easy to book. Guess,
or it used to be. I don't know how they
do it anymore. It's been decade plus since I've been
to one. But yeah, the parties in Miami in particular.
(03:37):
I forget which super Bowl it was, but it was incredible.
I mean you want to talk about just over the
top extravagance. Yeah, that's that's probably my best memories.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I just love living vicariously through Jesse Thomas, and I'll
do more of the same with a Rod coming up
at the bottom of that. I got some questions for
him too, Okay, since this is his first time. Yeah,
h please join me in that conversation. Then that'll be
about three thirty three pm here in the Mountain time zone.
Looking forward to a Super Bowl with the Kansas City
Chiefs and how exciting. And I'm very sarcastic there fly
(04:11):
Eagles Fly. Not a big Eagles fan, kind of neutral
on them as it stands. But if I'm given the
choice Philadelphia or the blankety blank Chiefs, Cali, I'm rooting
for the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And I know you are too right. You got right? Yeah, okay,
that makes three of us. I think it makes all
a Denver right. You might be the majority of the country.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Ye, yes, absolutely, I would love to see next Sirianni
win one.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Jalen Hurts, have no problem with the guy.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
I was hoping for a Philadelphia Detroit NFC title game
at Ford Field. That's what it should have been, one
seat against the two. But Lions did not hold up
their end of the bargain. Philadelphia one, fair and square.
They beat the very team that beat defeated Detroit, the
Washington formerly known as Redskins, and they're in the Super Bowl.
So go Eagles.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
This Sunday, let's go to the texts.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Out of the gate because this just follows up on
what we were talking about yesterday. With all the winning.
There's so much winning. You know, it's hither and Yon,
it's over there, it's over here. It's everywhere. It's Roy Kent,
it's Ted Lasso.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You know, I just.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Feel the winning. I'm surrounded by the winning. I'm immersed
in the winning. Kelly, I got to check with you,
almost like on a daily basis. Are you sick of
winning yet? Are you getting tired of winning? Are you
stressed out, worn out by the winning?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't think so. I'm kind of happy with it
right now. You want more winning?
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yeah, there's more winning. Yeah, okay, I'll report on the
more winning today. I don't know if I can get
in all the winning in the two hours that we have,
and even you know, if I had used every single
second of every single minute. But let's go to the
text five seven seven three nine, Ryan, I love playing poker.
If Trump walks to the table, I'd say, tables yours, Damn.
(05:51):
I love having a president like that. Well, Dan Bongino
put it in terms today. And I always invite you
to listen to these other podcasts and build a mosaic
of who you get your information from. For me, it's Bongino,
it's Ben Shapiro, it's Mark Levin, it's Megan Kelly, it's Dana.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Lash on occasion.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Now I don't have time necessary to listen to all
of those every day, but generally I don't miss in
the mornings, you know, I'll go for a walk, try.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And get four miles in.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Both Shapiro and Bongino start at nine pm Mountain time.
That's perfect for me in terms of show prep. What
are the topics of the day nationally and otherwise? Is
there anything that's happening locally here that ties in on
a national level.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So that's kind of my process.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
But what Dan Bongino pointed out and I couldn't agree more,
is if we had come from like a baseline of average,
like we felt okay, or was a president that wasn't great,
but he wasn't terrible, and then we get into Trump,
we'd feel pretty good, like, oh wow, that was a
step up. But the fact that we're coming in from
four abysmal years of Joe Biden across the board on
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virtually every level, it is a stark difference between all
four years of that and the two weeks in one
day of Trump. So far, Biden did not accumulate this
many ws in four years as Trump has.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Already in two weeks.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
By any measure standard or equation, and you know this
because of the freak out that you're seeing by members
of the media and members of the left. And the
more they freak out, the more fun we're having because
this is exactly what we voted for. This is exactly
why President Trump has a mandate. He won the popular vote.
(07:33):
He won up by one point five percentage points, which
is not easy to do for any Republican. In fact,
I might have made a bet that a Republican would
not have won the popular vote for many many election
cycles in the presidential election. That's why the Democrats were
pushing so hard for a National Popular Vote Compact. And
I don't think this point has made enough. Again, remind
all your liberal friends who have their heads in the
(07:55):
clouds or maybe elsewhere, that had the National Popular Vote
Compact been employed, had the requisite number of states signed
on to it and had been enacted, Donald Trump would
have been awarded the electoral votes of Colorado in California,
and the state of Washington and several other blue states.
(08:17):
Saw Blue states who was signed on to this ridiculous, stupid,
myopic National Popular Vote Compact because what it states is simply,
we're going to hand over our electoral votes to whoever
wins the popular vote, because that was a Democrat calculation,
a miscalculation that they would in perpetuity win the popular
(08:37):
vote in the presidential election. They wanted to scuttle the
electoral college and say, hey, we're going to just win
the popular vote. We control all the major urban centers
in cities, so we're going to drive and a roump
the score.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
They would have lost.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
That would have backfired in their faces had that been
in place this time around. Donald Trump won an elect
tororal college landslide anyway, but had that NPV compact been implemented,
they would have lost even more bigly.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So is that a good idea? Maybe they want to
back out of it.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Maybe they're having second thoughts as far as the poker
analogy from this Texter, I mean, that's exactly right. And
these absolute neophytes, and I don't know that they even
qualify as that.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Simple Minds I like to call.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Them after one of my favorite eighties new wave bands
that Kelly absolutely loves and supports.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
She's a big fan of simple minds.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I believe they don't have the cognitive capacity or the
brain convolution is very flat brained to see more than
two steps in front of their own faces on the
avocado toast. I mean, think about the argument that these
elitist leftist.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Women are making.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I can't have my avocado toast or the blueberries in
my smoothies, Kelly, how do you live with women like
that that reside where you live and reside where you're from?
And these are the arguments they're making about their avocado
toast and their blueberry smoothies.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Who's going to pick the berries for my smoothies? If
not the illegals? How do you survive? It's honest question.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
My theory about that those are the kind of women
that make men go celibate. So I mean, wow, I
mean that's that's all there is to it, and I
just I cannot relate to them. No, I don't think
I've ever had avocado toast.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
In my life. Lord.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I mean, I think it's going to be okay, people, Okay.
Trump kind of got Canada and Mexico to come together.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
They healed and they had to.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And that's what makes his tactics effective because it's not
just bluster.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's not a bluff.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
To extend the poker analogy, he has the winning hand
and he knows it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
He's got the nuts, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
This Texter says, winning, winning, winning. I love all this winning.
I'll never get tired of all this winning. Please, sir,
keep on winning. I think we are, and I think
we're going to Steven Littleton, retired law enforcement officers, asks
how closely do you think Polis is watching all the winning?
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Very closely, extremely closely, and keep your eyes and ears
on this gun grab bill, the proposed magazine ban for
semi automatic weapons. It is anathema to Jared Polis's political
future and career. He can't afford that to come to
(11:44):
his desk either way. If he signs it, he signs
his own political Very careful with the metaphor. It's a metaphor.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Here, he signs his own political death warrant. It's over.
He will pigeonhole himself to the left.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
He will staple himself adhere himself to the far left
flank of the gun grabbing crazies. And the most extreme
gun legislation ever to have been passed outside of Washington,
d C. Which isn't even a state, more radical than California,
more radical than New York State, more radical than Chicago.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Illinois, and he's gonna sign his name to that.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
No, no, he won't do that, but he can't veto
it either if he vetos it. Now he declares, I'm
a libertarian, I believe in two A rights. This goes
too far. He loses his entire left flank that he
would have been stapled to had he signed the bill.
He loses either way. I'm going to keep hammering this
because I'm on the money here, mark my words. Jared
(12:48):
Polus is gonna do everything he can to prevent that
gun bill from getting to his desk so that he
doesn't ever have to sign it. He's going to torpedo it.
He's gonna submarine it, he's gonna undermine it. He's going
to come up with the way somehow to end around it.
Don't doubt me, as Rush Limbau might say, but the
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winning for Donald Trump has been so fast and so
frequent that the Democrats they don't even know what hit
them or how to respond to it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
They try to.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Stake out some ground, like you heard Joe Scarborough and
Molly jong Fast and Sarah Jacobs and Anna Navarro, and
they all look like idiots. Lessen twenty four hours later
because the tactic of tariffs worked, and they're going to
work with China already. Jijon Payn wants to sit down
with President Trump. There's also an element of fa and
(13:42):
fo at play here.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
There's so much winning. I'm just going to start here.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I didn't get to this yesterday, but listen to this
snippet about Governor Phil Murphy, Democrat New Jersey, who apparently
is harboring an illegal alien in his own home, in
the room above his garage, and he's not hiding it.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
The governor of New Jersey practically a daring the agency
to come to his own home. Democratic Governor Phil Murphy
declared on Saturday that he and the First Lady are
allowing someone pursuing legal status to stay.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
At their home.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
The governor a little vague on this, but the bold
admission came at an event during a broader discussion about
the policies of the new Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here is the governor.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Listen before we get to that to hear what she
said there. She went full Comrade Kyle, someone pursuing legal status.
You know what, as a Lions fan, We're gonna go
back there. I'm pursuing a super Bowl title. I think
I'll ever get there. Gonna bet money on that I won't. Oh, Okay,
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someone pursuing legal status, are they the how hard are
they really pursuing it? They're not there yet? Are they
getting there? Are they taking the necessary steps? Are they
going through the proper channels?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm going to guests.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
No, Tammy and I were talking about I don't want
to get into too much detail, but there's someone in
our broader universe whose immigration status is not yet at
the point that they are trying to get it to
and we said, you know what, let's have her live
at our house above our garage.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh and good luck to.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
The Feds coming in to try to get her.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
You're wishing them luck. I don't think Tom Holman needs luck.
You just gave him information. Phil Murphy FA Tom Holman.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
FO that's ridiculous. Let we're looking into it. Bottom line,
you put it out there, we'll look into it. But
if he's knowingly, knowingly harbor and concealing an illego alien
from Ice, that is a felony and we will seek prosecution.
Memory or they've said for the last four years, no
one's above the law. We'll either see so maybe he's buffing,
(15:53):
maybe he's testing us, but I wouldn't test this administration.
We're taking this seriously, and anybody that knowingly impedes, anybody
annoyingly harbors and monsieus on alien is a violation of Tidaway,
and I says Code thirteen twenty four, we will seek prosecution.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Caroline Lovett has done a wonderful job getting to the
podium in place of Koreine John Pierre talking about upgrades
across the board. Here she sums up the deportation efforts
of Donald Trump and the leveraging efforts that have already
yielded rewards with Venezuela among other countries.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
President Trump is not messing around and he's no longer
going to allow America to be a dumping ground for
illegal criminals from nations all over this world. And so
al Salvador has not just agreed to the repatriation of
their own citizens, but also illegal criminals from other nations
who will then be sent to their prisons.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Venezuela as well.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Has agreed to repatriation flights, and Colombia also agreed to
cooperate with the repatriation of illegal Colombian nationals that we
have found in the inner of our country.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Wait till you hear from Rick Rennell, who was on
with Megan Kelly, describe his effort to go down and
free six hostages being held by Venezuela. Now, I'll admit,
and probably you are on the same page, I didn't
even know that there were Americans in Venezuela being held
against their will. Rick Rennell went to Venezuela, met with
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President Maduro and was able to negotiate release of those
hostages in exchange for nothing. And you'll hear exactly why
coming up later in the program. But Caroline Levitt continues
breaking this news late yesterday, and I.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Can also confirm that today the first flights from the
United States to Guantanamo Bay with illegal migrants are underway,
and so President Terump, Pete Hegseth, and Christy Nome are
already delivering on this promise to utilize that capacity at
GITMO for illegal criminals who have breaked broken our nation's
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immigration laws and then have further committed heinous crimes against
lawful American citizens.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Here at home.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
This is just the tip of the iceberg on the
winning just announced moments ago. Senator Susan Collins on Tulsy Gabbard.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
After extensive consideration, conversations with her in my office, attending
the hearing, questioning her there, and listening to her in
the closed session, I decided to vote that I will
vote for her. I believe she's committed to strengthening our
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national security.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
That makes two Tulsi Gabbard advancing out of committee, RFK
Junior doing the same, Health and Human Services very strong
likelihood at this point, based on those who have come
forward in support them.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Might have been on the fence.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
These are maybe the two most controversial nominees because they're
both former Democrats. There might be concerns from the conservative side.
There's certainly complete opposition from the Democrat side that these
two abandoned. But Telsey Gabber will now head to the
floor vote in the Senate to be the next Director
of National Intelligence, and I wouldn't bet against her at
this point. RFK Junior same thing in Cash Bettel. He
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might get the highest vote total out of all of
them to head up the FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
The winning continues. Stay tuned when we come back.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Quite a plot to us when it comes to the
nicotine replacements that are smoke free in Denver after this
and Ryan Julie.
Speaker 11 (19:30):
Waite saying vote no on RFK Junior two Republican senators,
is your argument getting traction?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well, I think that right now.
Speaker 12 (19:43):
I think most Americans understand that he's not qualified to
be a nominee for helping human services. I think concern
for a lot of Republican senators is worry that Donald
Trump will form a primary against them if they vote
against him. But Casey, I mean, here's a guy. You
look at Donald Trump's homewards just a few months ago.
He's a person who is even when he ran last year,
advocated an abortion on demand through.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
All nine months of pregnancy.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
He somebody that I'm not going to take sides on
nine to eleven. He's somebody who said the NRA is
a terrorist organization. He is somebody who now American and
Samoa parents of eighty three children who have died because
he advised them not to get vaccinated for measles.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
That's Mark Short, former Mike Pence advisor with Casey Hunt
on CNN. I have a lot of questions in the
wake of that. First of all, I've got a question
for the leftists who are criticizing Trump. Is he assembling
a cabinet of like minded robots who will serve at
his whim uniformly and with undying fealty and loyalty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's option one. Can only be one of these, Is
it that?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Or is Donald Trump assembling a team of rivals approach
like Abraham Lincoln did famously in the form of RFK Junior.
It's a Democrat now an independent, lifelong Democrat, lifelong advocating
for many causes that would be in conflict with our
rock rib Conservatives like Mark short who you just heard.
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Telsea Gabbard another one we just talked about, lifelong Democrat
now an independent. I believe she's a registered Republican now
but wasn't for the longest time. So which is it?
You got to pick one? You gotta pick one. Can't
be both. He can't be a fascist with only loyalist
in his cabinet and yet also happened to select people
who maybe fiercely disagree with him on some things. But
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RFK Junior and Telsea Gabbard are committed to the Trump agenda,
which was elected by the American people. Our FK Junior
is likely to be confirmed now as the next head
of HHS and this could be a game changer in
many different ways. And the reason I open this segment
with it is to start off our conversation with doctor
Brian Ercula. He has joined us here in Ryan Schuling
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Live late last year, the director of Regulatory Sciences at
Swedish Match North America, and he joins us now with
an update. Doctor Erkla, thank you so much for your time,
first of all, and then secondly, just from a broad perspective,
what would a Robert F. Kennedy junior confirmation as head
of HHS do for your industry? For the health industry?
(22:19):
Writ large?
Speaker 13 (22:21):
Yeah, hey, Ryan, I'm great for you to have me
back on again. You know, it looks like that is
pointing that way with him getting the helm at AHHS.
You know, I'm not sure what he would do if
he hasn't commented too much on tobacco nicotine, but you
know he advocate for consumers to have access to information,
right and I think this area of smoke free products
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and nicotine is a place that you know, is rice
with misinformation. So you know, hopefully if he did were
to take the helm, he could work on, you know,
some education for consumers and smokers who think things like
nicotine causes cancer, which it doesn't. You know, that would
be a great benefit for public health.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Doctor Kolo was formerly the toxicologists at the FDA Center
for Tobacco Products, where he was responsible for determining which
products made their way to market. And there was a
significant breakthrough here. There's so much to talk about, doctor Erkulob.
But FDA authorizing the marketing of twenty zen zyn nicotine
pouch products after extensive scientific review, what doors does this open?
Speaker 14 (23:25):
A lot?
Speaker 11 (23:26):
You know?
Speaker 14 (23:26):
So we're we're very proud of our you know, zen
nixtein vouches. We know they're a better alternative for people
to smoke or use other products, you know, and we've
been saying this for a while. But what this authorization
from the FDA means is that a third part, right,
the Food and Drug Administration, has looked at our hundreds
of thousands of pages of evidence and determined that, you know,
these twenty kinds of zen nicketine pouches are appropriate for
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the protection of public health.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
When I compare what the Denver City Council has done
historically to maybe policies that might have been in place
in the past, for instance, not counting prohibition, but there
were things called dry counties, especially in the South, and
there are ABC stores.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I lived in Florida and Virginia, they both had them
there where.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
You had to have specialized licenses to sell liquor, et cetera.
And in some of those areas where there might have
been more of a religious Christian influence, you couldn't even
buy any alcohol on Sunday. So you fast forward to
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, and the Denver
City Council now, in the face of this FDA announcement
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for authorization of the marketing of these types of products,
they have banned flavored smoke free nicotine products within the
city limits of Denver. How do we square that circle
between what Denver is doing and what the FDA has
recommended and authorized.
Speaker 13 (24:50):
You know, Ryan, it's really hard, right if you think
about it. This is you know, the FDA, it's the
first nicotine pouch to ever be authorized. They said that
having it in flavors was really in pl to moving
smokers away from their cigarettes, that it has really low
levels of toxins that you know, people who start using
ZIN switch over away from cigarettes and that youth aren't
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really using it. It sounds like, you know, a great
product for public health, but in Denver it's banned. They
have no access to it. People who smoke in Denver
cannot buy this product because of that flavor band. And
what's more interesting, you know, we're so proud of this
product and really the public health benefit we think it
could have. We've invested hundreds of millions of dollars to
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build a new plant just outside Denver in Aurora, Colorado,
bring it in hundreds of jobs and making these FDA
authorized products to help the twenty eight million Americans who smoke.
And right next door in Denver, the smokers who really
want a better alternative will not be able to buy them.
Speaker 14 (25:49):
Because of this band.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He is the director of Regulatory Science for Swedish Match
North America. Doctor Brian Erkola our guest, and I wanted
to follow up where you just went there and this
press release saying Philip Morris International US affiliate to create
five hundred jobs, as you just stated, investing six hundred
million dollars in Aurora, Colorado for a manufacturing facility. Now
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there are other existing smoke free product manufacturing sites in Owensboro, Kentucky,
and Wilson, North Carolina. This one just so happens doctor
Erkle at a setup shop in Aurora, the largest city
outside of Denver in the state of Colorado, neighboring right
next door.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I can't believe that was an accident.
Speaker 13 (26:32):
Well, you know, truthfully, Colorado has sort of been a
really important state for zinn. You know, while it's got
into the news lately, thisn's been on the market for
over a decade, right and it started right in Colorado.
So it seems to be just a little bit of
a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Actually, But I mean that.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Being said, with my very very novice level marketing skills,
it would makes sense that not only people that want
to work in this industry, it's going to create five
hundred jobs in Aurora. I'm sure this is very welcome
for Mayor Mike coffin the Ero City Council, the city
Aurora entire, but that people who live in Denver within
the city limits, all they have to do now, you
(27:11):
would think, is travel next door. There's this great source
of this new product that's been authorized by the FDA.
Zen is a product that again when you get that
FDA seal of approval that's not that is well earned.
So what is message does this send in your mind
for consumers and people that might look to legitimately be
(27:31):
wanting to quit smoking and have a transition product which
Zen is and offers to them. How much business do
you think is simply going to travel across this city
limits from Denver to Aurora.
Speaker 13 (27:42):
Yeah, and that's not just with Zin, right. If you
think about all the other smoke free products, You're thinking
about your napes and your heated spacco, all of that
business is going to leave the city, right, It's not
just a Zen And so you know there's a bunch
of other things that can happen there. You know, if
I used to be a smoker and I've switched to
a smoke free product and it's too hard for me
to go get the product I want, I.
Speaker 14 (28:01):
Might go back to smoking.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Right.
Speaker 13 (28:03):
And also if I think I can see an opportunity
if I'm a little unseemly and I could sell flavored
products in Denver, maybe not through regular channels and other
lificit market. Yeah, guess what's not regulated the illicit market.
So there's a lot of unintended consequences that this band
can cause.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Well, they're unintended, but I think they're readily visible, especially
with everything we've just discussed, doctor Erkola, and I've just
you know, final question. I know somebody in your position
that's looking to advance this product and make it more
available for those and to benefit people, and the FDA
is likely on the same page as you are with
all of it. You have to look at arguments from
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the other side, and what I'm seeing is the City
of Denver is doing two things. Like you said, They're
either driving people who seek these products elsewhere right next
door to Aurora where there's going to be a manufacturing
plant set up shop there, or they're driving them to
the black market to pursue them via other means. This
hurts businesses within Denver that might otherwise sell Zen and
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similar type products.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What is the upside?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
What is the benefit from Denver City Council's perspective.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm trying to figure that out.
Speaker 13 (29:12):
You know, this was done in an effort to curb
any sort of youth use, right, but if you look
at the actual numbers, the use of things like Zen
nicotine pouches is incredibly low. The fd eight pointed out
that it's very low. Maybing is down seventy percent in
the last five years among youths, So really what this
is doing, you know, we can keep it out of
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the product of the hands of youth while still allowing
access to adults who need these flavored products.
Speaker 14 (29:38):
It's possible.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
It's possible, and it is probable if you just you know,
follow the guidelines, the laws that were already in place
in which miners were not allowed to purchase these products,
effective use of IDs and karting people for those purchases.
It just seems to be a vast overreaction and we're
seeing what happens and a capitalist economy when you do that,
it's driving business elsewhere and again and that the headlines
(30:01):
to take away from this the FDA authorizing the marketing
of twenty zen nicotine pouch products after extensive scientific review,
and Philip Morris International US affiliate setting up five hundred jobs,
investing six hundred million dollars in an Aurora, Colorado manufacturing facility.
It's a fascinating story as the developments come in and
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we'll be keep in touch with you, doctor Brian Erkla
for anything that comes down the pike and anything that
might change going here and forward.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 13 (30:33):
Of course, can't wait to join you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Have a good one, all right, Doctor Brian erkele your
thoughts there.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
If you are a nicotine user, if you've tried to
use smoking cessation products, if zen is one of those
things that may have benefited you, or you think it
might benefit you, give me a text five seven seven
three nine. Or if you see Denver City Council's point,
you disagree with doctor Urcula and myself and I don't
really have a dog in this fight. I am not
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a nicotine user or smoker, never have been. But the
part of me that really leans hard libertarian is coming
to the fore here because I don't see the genuine,
tangible upside of what the Denver City Council has done
with this flavored smoke free nicotine product ban in Denver,
and it's only going to benefit next door Aurora. I'm
(31:19):
not really calculating this or figuring it out. Maybe you
can help me five seven seven three nine. Well, round out,
we have another edition of Trump's Hot Takes. When we
come back. Our number one concludes after this on Ryan
Schruling Live, I to bother.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
You that Elon Musk precise the deal that he made publicly,
that he said prety.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Tree of that.
Speaker 15 (31:41):
No, he hates one of the people in the deal. No, No,
I've well, I spoken, but I spoke at all of them. Actually, No,
people in the deal are very very se people. But
Dila one of the people.
Speaker 14 (31:54):
They have to say.
Speaker 15 (31:55):
But I have certain hatreds of people too.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
One of the people he happens to.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Hey, but I have certain hatreds of people too, So
he can relate. And it's okay if Elon doesn't like
everything he does, and it's okay in reverse if Trump
doesn't agree with everything Elon Musk recommends with Doge. But
the Democrats, the left, the media either don't want to
believe this or are having a hard time wrapping the
heads their heads around believing it. Jim Acosta, I don't
(32:25):
have enough time here, but we're gonna get into his
first remark since leaving CNN, And of course, what rabbit
hole does he go down? He guessed did Project twenty
twenty five? Just a total shill, just an absolute partisan hack.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He always has been.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
He wasn't a newsman, he wasn't applying the same journalistic
standard to the left of the Biden administration that he
did to Trump. They all become these brave journalists when
it's Trump in Ovie, and then they all disappear and
scatter when Joe Biden was present of four years ruining everything.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So pardon me if I don't take Jim acost to that.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Seriously, Let's go to your texts five seven, seven, three nine.
By my count, if the National Popular Vote Compact had
been in place, the electoral college would have been five
twenty to eighteen for Trump.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That from FJP five twenty to eighteen.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
You say, well, I during the break, I pulled up
the map and the result, of course, was three twelve
to two twenty six, a substantial landslide electoral college.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Win for Trump three twelve to two twenty six.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
But then I checked out the Wikipedia page for the
National Popular Vote Compact.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now, this would only take.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Effect if the combined total of the states agreeing to
it was two hundred seventy votes are greater, which would
give the compact legal force.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But guess what, As I stated, they're all blue states.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
So of the two hundred twenty six electoral votes that
Kamala Harris's let's peel them all away and see what
would have happened had the national popular vote Interstate Compact
been an effect. Washington, Oregon, California all gone turn it
red for Trump. I'm not saying this is right. I'm
not saying I agree with it. This is what the
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left wanted. This is what we idiots in Colorado voted
to join on to. And by the way, Colorado's ten
electoral votes Trump New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, all of Maine.
Of course they have that apportioned by congressional district that
Nebraska does.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But nope, they've signed onto the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Hold kitt and caboodle all of Maine's electoral votes, the
four of them to Trump. Vermont a communist state. Basically,
they elect Bernie Sanders every election cycle to Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Massachusetts, maybe the blue est.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
State in the Union, Trump, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland,
the District of Columbia all Trump. Now, for some reason,
it shows Nevada, Texas, US in Florida, and Virginia as pending.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Not this is an idiotic idea, But the Texter is right.
If you flipped all the Compact states read which they
would have had to on the National Popular Vote Compact.
Only New Hampshire, Virginia and one electoral vote in Nebraska
would have gone to Kamala Harris. This map looks a
lot like Reagan nineteen eighty four. And that's what we
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would have had. Is that what you intended Democrats, leftists
who thought, ti, we're going to own the national popular
vote through demographic destiny for several election cycles and generations. Oh,
it always boomerangs back, and it's delicious and glorious.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
When it does. It's stupid. Colorado's ten electoral votes should
have gone to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
They did, But Democrats are their own worst enemies, and
they just proved it again.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
We'll take this freak.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
We'll come back our number two straight ahead, Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Keep it locked and loaded right here,
Tariffs.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You don't have to be smart in economics to know
this pushes the E, This pushes the EU, This pushes Canada,
This has pushes Mexico into the.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Arms of China.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
The unintended consequences of it we don't know yet, and
they will likely be far larger than any of us
can calculate.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Tay, goodbye to your avocado toast and you're tequila. We
are going to see real pain.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And again it's not actually going to address the pensional crisis.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
These aur are friends, and we are treating them like trash.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We are bullying them.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Now He's going to tax on tequila and avocados.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
Yeah, not even twenty four hours and they're already exposed
for the fools that they are. Ryan Schuling lyve with
you your texts at five, seven, seven, three nine, start those, Ryan,
if you would please. Jesse Thomas alongside not long before
he sets sail for Arizona in spring Train and the
Colorado Rockies and all that. So we're gonna savor the
(01:02):
flavor of Jesse Thomas while he's here, and a Rod
will be joining us in our number two reporting live
from the super Bowl side of the Super Bowl in
New Orleans, Louisiana. He was with us yesterday and now
he's been able to compile some sound from media Access,
which happens on the Tuesday before the Super Bowl that
(01:23):
is customary. Now, before we get in all the political stuff, Jesse,
you kind of dropped a bombshell on me that I
was both surprised and impressed by how.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Many Super Bowls have you been to? Well? To cover three? Three? Yep,
And I was back in the day.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
We're the original nine to fifty to fan for those
that remember that, sure on the old building in Jefferson
Pilot Communications on Monaco and Mississippi there.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Wow, yep.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
So yeah, I've been to a three as a working
guy and two as a fan.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
One of them one as a fan. I don't really
remember that well.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
I was nineteen eighty seven the Broncos Super Bowl at
the Rose Bowl against the Giants that they lost.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I remember the living Huntington Beach at the time.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
And big Bronco fans obviously, and I was a little
too young to really enjoy it. But yeah, I've been
to two as a fan and three is a working Now.
You know, when you're working them, you don't really get
to go to the Super Bowl. I mean you pretty
much work all week and then you fly home and
watch it on TV like everybody else. Oh, that's pretty
much what happens. Nobody gets tickets to it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
You were telling me though, the first one is the
best one, and nothing compares after that one.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
First one is awesome because you know, this the spectacle,
and you know, Radio Row is awesome, and everybody and
their mom's trying to sell a book or some sort
of you know what I mean. Yeah, they do it
a little different nowadays than back in the day. But
and then you know Friday at five and everybody hits
the bricks and flies home.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Nobody has tickets. Yeah, and they're godly.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I spend.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Certainly we're in the wrong business to afford a value.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
And they both Barry Sanders, I remember he was hawking
goods and services and products.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so forth. And he's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
He's just the one that comes to mind because he's
the all time greatest detroit lyon And of course the
trit Lions will never make the Super Bowl, if not
this year. I just I just don't see it ever happening.
I know, I sound like a negative Nancy, But hey,
I'm a Lions fan.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I get to do that, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Anything that stands out as a highlight from any of
the Super Bowls that you either covered or attended as
a fan.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Well, the parties, yeah, I mean Radio Rose one thing,
because the guests pretty much they come, their agents, their
handlers pretty much walk them up to you if they
have something to sell. It's really easy to book. Guess,
or it used to be. I don't know how they
do it anymore. It's been decade plus since I've been
to one. But yeah, the parties in Miami in particular.
(03:37):
I forget which super Bowl it was, but it was incredible.
I mean you want to talk about just over the
top extravagance. Yeah, that's that's probably my best memories.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I just love living vicariously through Jesse Thomas, and I'll
do more of the same with a Rod coming up
at the bottom of that. I got some questions for
him too, Okay, since this is his first time. Yeah,
h please join me in that conversation. Then that'll be
about three thirty three pm here in the Mountain time zone.
Looking forward to a Super Bowl with the Kansas City
Chiefs and how exciting. And I'm very sarcastic there fly
(04:11):
Eagles Fly. Not a big Eagles fan, kind of neutral
on them as it stands. But if I'm given the
choice Philadelphia or the blankety blank Chiefs, Cali, I'm rooting
for the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And I know you are too right. You got right? Yeah, okay,
that makes three of us. I think it makes all
a Denver right. You might be the majority of the country.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Ye, yes, absolutely, I would love to see next Sirianni
win one.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Jalen Hurts, have no problem with the guy.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
I was hoping for a Philadelphia Detroit NFC title game
at Ford Field. That's what it should have been, one
seat against the two. But Lions did not hold up
their end of the bargain. Philadelphia one, fair and square.
They beat the very team that beat defeated Detroit, the
Washington formerly known as Redskins, and they're in the Super Bowl.
So go Eagles.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
This Sunday, let's go to the texts.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Out of the gate because this just follows up on
what we were talking about yesterday. With all the winning.
There's so much winning. You know, it's hither and Yon,
it's over there, it's over here. It's everywhere. It's Roy Kent,
it's Ted Lasso.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You know, I just.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Feel the winning. I'm surrounded by the winning. I'm immersed
in the winning. Kelly, I got to check with you,
almost like on a daily basis. Are you sick of
winning yet? Are you getting tired of winning? Are you
stressed out, worn out by the winning?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't think so. I'm kind of happy with it
right now. You want more winning?
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yeah, there's more winning. Yeah, okay, I'll report on the
more winning today. I don't know if I can get
in all the winning in the two hours that we have,
and even you know, if I had used every single
second of every single minute. But let's go to the
text five seven seven three nine, Ryan, I love playing poker.
If Trump walks to the table, I'd say, tables yours, Damn.
(05:51):
I love having a president like that. Well, Dan Bongino
put it in terms today. And I always invite you
to listen to these other podcasts and build a mosaic
of who you get your information from. For me, it's Bongino,
it's Ben Shapiro, it's Mark Levin, it's Megan Kelly, it's Dana.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Lash on occasion.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Now I don't have time necessary to listen to all
of those every day, but generally I don't miss in
the mornings, you know, I'll go for a walk, try.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And get four miles in.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Both Shapiro and Bongino start at nine pm Mountain time.
That's perfect for me in terms of show prep. What
are the topics of the day nationally and otherwise? Is
there anything that's happening locally here that ties in on
a national level.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So that's kind of my process.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
But what Dan Bongino pointed out and I couldn't agree more,
is if we had come from like a baseline of average,
like we felt okay, or was a president that wasn't great,
but he wasn't terrible, and then we get into Trump,
we'd feel pretty good, like, oh wow, that was a
step up. But the fact that we're coming in from
four abysmal years of Joe Biden across the board on
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virtually every level, it is a stark difference between all
four years of that and the two weeks in one
day of Trump. So far, Biden did not accumulate this
many ws in four years as Trump has.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Already in two weeks.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
By any measure standard or equation, and you know this
because of the freak out that you're seeing by members
of the media and members of the left. And the
more they freak out, the more fun we're having because
this is exactly what we voted for. This is exactly
why President Trump has a mandate. He won the popular vote.
(07:33):
He won up by one point five percentage points, which
is not easy to do for any Republican. In fact,
I might have made a bet that a Republican would
not have won the popular vote for many many election
cycles in the presidential election. That's why the Democrats were
pushing so hard for a National Popular Vote Compact. And
I don't think this point has made enough. Again, remind
all your liberal friends who have their heads in the
(07:55):
clouds or maybe elsewhere, that had the National Popular Vote
Compact been employed, had the requisite number of states signed
on to it and had been enacted, Donald Trump would
have been awarded the electoral votes of Colorado in California,
and the state of Washington and several other blue states.
(08:17):
Saw Blue states who was signed on to this ridiculous, stupid,
myopic National Popular Vote Compact because what it states is simply,
we're going to hand over our electoral votes to whoever
wins the popular vote, because that was a Democrat calculation,
a miscalculation that they would in perpetuity win the popular
(08:37):
vote in the presidential election. They wanted to scuttle the
electoral college and say, hey, we're going to just win
the popular vote. We control all the major urban centers
in cities, so we're going to drive and a roump
the score.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
They would have lost.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
That would have backfired in their faces had that been
in place this time around. Donald Trump won an elect
tororal college landslide anyway, but had that NPV compact been implemented,
they would have lost even more bigly.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So is that a good idea? Maybe they want to
back out of it.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Maybe they're having second thoughts as far as the poker
analogy from this Texter, I mean, that's exactly right. And
these absolute neophytes, and I don't know that they even
qualify as that.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Simple Minds I like to call.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Them after one of my favorite eighties new wave bands
that Kelly absolutely loves and supports.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
She's a big fan of simple minds.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I believe they don't have the cognitive capacity or the
brain convolution is very flat brained to see more than
two steps in front of their own faces on the
avocado toast. I mean, think about the argument that these
elitist leftist.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Women are making.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I can't have my avocado toast or the blueberries in
my smoothies, Kelly, how do you live with women like
that that reside where you live and reside where you're from?
And these are the arguments they're making about their avocado
toast and their blueberry smoothies.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Who's going to pick the berries for my smoothies? If
not the illegals? How do you survive? It's honest question.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
My theory about that those are the kind of women
that make men go celibate. So I mean, wow, I
mean that's that's all there is to it, and I
just I cannot relate to them. No, I don't think
I've ever had avocado toast.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
In my life. Lord.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I mean, I think it's going to be okay, people, Okay.
Trump kind of got Canada and Mexico to come together.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
They healed and they had to.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And that's what makes his tactics effective because it's not
just bluster.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's not a bluff.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
To extend the poker analogy, he has the winning hand
and he knows it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
He's got the nuts, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
This Texter says, winning, winning, winning. I love all this winning.
I'll never get tired of all this winning. Please, sir,
keep on winning. I think we are, and I think
we're going to Steven Littleton, retired law enforcement officers, asks
how closely do you think Polis is watching all the winning?
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Very closely, extremely closely, and keep your eyes and ears
on this gun grab bill, the proposed magazine ban for
semi automatic weapons. It is anathema to Jared Polis's political
future and career. He can't afford that to come to
(11:44):
his desk either way. If he signs it, he signs
his own political Very careful with the metaphor. It's a metaphor.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Here, he signs his own political death warrant. It's over.
He will pigeonhole himself to the left.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
He will staple himself adhere himself to the far left
flank of the gun grabbing crazies. And the most extreme
gun legislation ever to have been passed outside of Washington,
d C. Which isn't even a state, more radical than California,
more radical than New York State, more radical than Chicago.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Illinois, and he's gonna sign his name to that.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
No, no, he won't do that, but he can't veto
it either if he vetos it. Now he declares, I'm
a libertarian, I believe in two A rights. This goes
too far. He loses his entire left flank that he
would have been stapled to had he signed the bill.
He loses either way. I'm going to keep hammering this
because I'm on the money here, mark my words. Jared
(12:48):
Polus is gonna do everything he can to prevent that
gun bill from getting to his desk so that he
doesn't ever have to sign it. He's going to torpedo it.
He's gonna submarine it, he's gonna undermine it. He's going
to come up with the way somehow to end around it.
Don't doubt me, as Rush Limbau might say, but the
(13:08):
winning for Donald Trump has been so fast and so
frequent that the Democrats they don't even know what hit
them or how to respond to it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
They try to.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Stake out some ground, like you heard Joe Scarborough and
Molly jong Fast and Sarah Jacobs and Anna Navarro, and
they all look like idiots. Lessen twenty four hours later
because the tactic of tariffs worked, and they're going to
work with China already. Jijon Payn wants to sit down
with President Trump. There's also an element of fa and
(13:42):
fo at play here.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
There's so much winning. I'm just going to start here.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I didn't get to this yesterday, but listen to this
snippet about Governor Phil Murphy, Democrat New Jersey, who apparently
is harboring an illegal alien in his own home, in
the room above his garage, and he's not hiding it.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
The governor of New Jersey practically a daring the agency
to come to his own home. Democratic Governor Phil Murphy
declared on Saturday that he and the First Lady are
allowing someone pursuing legal status to stay.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
At their home.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
The governor a little vague on this, but the bold
admission came at an event during a broader discussion about
the policies of the new Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here is the governor.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Listen before we get to that to hear what she
said there. She went full Comrade Kyle, someone pursuing legal status.
You know what, as a Lions fan, We're gonna go
back there. I'm pursuing a super Bowl title. I think
I'll ever get there. Gonna bet money on that I won't. Oh, Okay,
(14:45):
someone pursuing legal status, are they the how hard are
they really pursuing it? They're not there yet? Are they
getting there? Are they taking the necessary steps? Are they
going through the proper channels?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm going to guests.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
No, Tammy and I were talking about I don't want
to get into too much detail, but there's someone in
our broader universe whose immigration status is not yet at
the point that they are trying to get it to
and we said, you know what, let's have her live
at our house above our garage.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh and good luck to.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
The Feds coming in to try to get her.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
You're wishing them luck. I don't think Tom Holman needs luck.
You just gave him information. Phil Murphy FA Tom Holman.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
FO that's ridiculous. Let we're looking into it. Bottom line,
you put it out there, we'll look into it. But
if he's knowingly, knowingly harbor and concealing an illego alien
from Ice, that is a felony and we will seek prosecution.
Memory or they've said for the last four years, no
one's above the law. We'll either see so maybe he's buffing,
(15:53):
maybe he's testing us, but I wouldn't test this administration.
We're taking this seriously, and anybody that knowingly impedes, anybody
annoyingly harbors and monsieus on alien is a violation of Tidaway,
and I says Code thirteen twenty four, we will seek prosecution.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Caroline Lovett has done a wonderful job getting to the
podium in place of Koreine John Pierre talking about upgrades
across the board. Here she sums up the deportation efforts
of Donald Trump and the leveraging efforts that have already
yielded rewards with Venezuela among other countries.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
President Trump is not messing around and he's no longer
going to allow America to be a dumping ground for
illegal criminals from nations all over this world. And so
al Salvador has not just agreed to the repatriation of
their own citizens, but also illegal criminals from other nations
who will then be sent to their prisons.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Venezuela as well.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Has agreed to repatriation flights, and Colombia also agreed to
cooperate with the repatriation of illegal Colombian nationals that we
have found in the inner of our country.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Wait till you hear from Rick Rennell, who was on
with Megan Kelly, describe his effort to go down and
free six hostages being held by Venezuela. Now, I'll admit,
and probably you are on the same page, I didn't
even know that there were Americans in Venezuela being held
against their will. Rick Rennell went to Venezuela, met with
(17:24):
President Maduro and was able to negotiate release of those
hostages in exchange for nothing. And you'll hear exactly why
coming up later in the program. But Caroline Levitt continues
breaking this news late yesterday, and I.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Can also confirm that today the first flights from the
United States to Guantanamo Bay with illegal migrants are underway,
and so President Terump, Pete Hegseth, and Christy Nome are
already delivering on this promise to utilize that capacity at
GITMO for illegal criminals who have breaked broken our nation's
(18:00):
immigration laws and then have further committed heinous crimes against
lawful American citizens.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Here at home.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
This is just the tip of the iceberg on the
winning just announced moments ago. Senator Susan Collins on Tulsy Gabbard.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
After extensive consideration, conversations with her in my office, attending
the hearing, questioning her there, and listening to her in
the closed session, I decided to vote that I will
vote for her. I believe she's committed to strengthening our
(18:39):
national security.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
That makes two Tulsi Gabbard advancing out of committee, RFK
Junior doing the same, Health and Human Services very strong
likelihood at this point, based on those who have come
forward in support them.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Might have been on the fence.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
These are maybe the two most controversial nominees because they're
both former Democrats. There might be concerns from the conservative side.
There's certainly complete opposition from the Democrat side that these
two abandoned. But Telsey Gabber will now head to the
floor vote in the Senate to be the next Director
of National Intelligence, and I wouldn't bet against her at
this point. RFK Junior same thing in Cash Bettel. He
(19:15):
might get the highest vote total out of all of
them to head up the FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
The winning continues. Stay tuned when we come back.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Quite a plot to us when it comes to the
nicotine replacements that are smoke free in Denver after this
and Ryan Julie.
Speaker 11 (19:30):
Waite saying vote no on RFK Junior two Republican senators,
is your argument getting traction?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well, I think that right now.
Speaker 12 (19:43):
I think most Americans understand that he's not qualified to
be a nominee for helping human services. I think concern
for a lot of Republican senators is worry that Donald
Trump will form a primary against them if they vote
against him. But Casey, I mean, here's a guy. You
look at Donald Trump's homewards just a few months ago.
He's a person who is even when he ran last year,
advocated an abortion on demand through.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
All nine months of pregnancy.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
He somebody that I'm not going to take sides on
nine to eleven. He's somebody who said the NRA is
a terrorist organization. He is somebody who now American and
Samoa parents of eighty three children who have died because
he advised them not to get vaccinated for measles.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
That's Mark Short, former Mike Pence advisor with Casey Hunt
on CNN. I have a lot of questions in the
wake of that. First of all, I've got a question
for the leftists who are criticizing Trump. Is he assembling
a cabinet of like minded robots who will serve at
his whim uniformly and with undying fealty and loyalty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's option one. Can only be one of these, Is
it that?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Or is Donald Trump assembling a team of rivals approach
like Abraham Lincoln did famously in the form of RFK Junior.
It's a Democrat now an independent, lifelong Democrat, lifelong advocating
for many causes that would be in conflict with our
rock rib Conservatives like Mark short who you just heard.
(21:10):
Telsea Gabbard another one we just talked about, lifelong Democrat
now an independent. I believe she's a registered Republican now
but wasn't for the longest time. So which is it?
You got to pick one? You gotta pick one. Can't
be both. He can't be a fascist with only loyalist
in his cabinet and yet also happened to select people
who maybe fiercely disagree with him on some things. But
(21:32):
RFK Junior and Telsea Gabbard are committed to the Trump agenda,
which was elected by the American people. Our FK Junior
is likely to be confirmed now as the next head
of HHS and this could be a game changer in
many different ways. And the reason I open this segment
with it is to start off our conversation with doctor
Brian Ercula. He has joined us here in Ryan Schuling
(21:55):
Live late last year, the director of Regulatory Sciences at
Swedish Match North America, and he joins us now with
an update. Doctor Erkla, thank you so much for your time,
first of all, and then secondly, just from a broad perspective,
what would a Robert F. Kennedy junior confirmation as head
of HHS do for your industry? For the health industry?
(22:19):
Writ large?
Speaker 13 (22:21):
Yeah, hey, Ryan, I'm great for you to have me
back on again. You know, it looks like that is
pointing that way with him getting the helm at AHHS.
You know, I'm not sure what he would do if
he hasn't commented too much on tobacco nicotine, but you
know he advocate for consumers to have access to information,
right and I think this area of smoke free products
(22:41):
and nicotine is a place that you know, is rice
with misinformation. So you know, hopefully if he did were
to take the helm, he could work on, you know,
some education for consumers and smokers who think things like
nicotine causes cancer, which it doesn't. You know, that would
be a great benefit for public health.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Doctor Kolo was formerly the toxicologists at the FDA Center
for Tobacco Products, where he was responsible for determining which
products made their way to market. And there was a
significant breakthrough here. There's so much to talk about, doctor Erkulob.
But FDA authorizing the marketing of twenty zen zyn nicotine
pouch products after extensive scientific review, what doors does this open?
Speaker 14 (23:25):
A lot?
Speaker 11 (23:26):
You know?
Speaker 14 (23:26):
So we're we're very proud of our you know, zen
nixtein vouches. We know they're a better alternative for people
to smoke or use other products, you know, and we've
been saying this for a while. But what this authorization
from the FDA means is that a third part, right,
the Food and Drug Administration, has looked at our hundreds
of thousands of pages of evidence and determined that, you know,
these twenty kinds of zen nicketine pouches are appropriate for
(23:50):
the protection of public health.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
When I compare what the Denver City Council has done
historically to maybe policies that might have been in place
in the past, for instance, not counting prohibition, but there
were things called dry counties, especially in the South, and
there are ABC stores.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I lived in Florida and Virginia, they both had them
there where.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
You had to have specialized licenses to sell liquor, et cetera.
And in some of those areas where there might have
been more of a religious Christian influence, you couldn't even
buy any alcohol on Sunday. So you fast forward to
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, and the Denver
City Council now, in the face of this FDA announcement
(24:31):
for authorization of the marketing of these types of products,
they have banned flavored smoke free nicotine products within the
city limits of Denver. How do we square that circle
between what Denver is doing and what the FDA has
recommended and authorized.
Speaker 13 (24:50):
You know, Ryan, it's really hard, right if you think
about it. This is you know, the FDA, it's the
first nicotine pouch to ever be authorized. They said that
having it in flavors was really in pl to moving
smokers away from their cigarettes, that it has really low
levels of toxins that you know, people who start using
ZIN switch over away from cigarettes and that youth aren't
(25:11):
really using it. It sounds like, you know, a great
product for public health, but in Denver it's banned. They
have no access to it. People who smoke in Denver
cannot buy this product because of that flavor band. And
what's more interesting, you know, we're so proud of this
product and really the public health benefit we think it
could have. We've invested hundreds of millions of dollars to
(25:33):
build a new plant just outside Denver in Aurora, Colorado,
bring it in hundreds of jobs and making these FDA
authorized products to help the twenty eight million Americans who smoke.
And right next door in Denver, the smokers who really
want a better alternative will not be able to buy them.
Speaker 14 (25:49):
Because of this band.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He is the director of Regulatory Science for Swedish Match
North America. Doctor Brian Erkola our guest, and I wanted
to follow up where you just went there and this
press release saying Philip Morris International US affiliate to create
five hundred jobs, as you just stated, investing six hundred
million dollars in Aurora, Colorado for a manufacturing facility. Now
(26:13):
there are other existing smoke free product manufacturing sites in Owensboro, Kentucky,
and Wilson, North Carolina. This one just so happens doctor
Erkle at a setup shop in Aurora, the largest city
outside of Denver in the state of Colorado, neighboring right
next door.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I can't believe that was an accident.
Speaker 13 (26:32):
Well, you know, truthfully, Colorado has sort of been a
really important state for zinn. You know, while it's got
into the news lately, thisn's been on the market for
over a decade, right and it started right in Colorado.
So it seems to be just a little bit of
a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Actually, But I mean that.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Being said, with my very very novice level marketing skills,
it would makes sense that not only people that want
to work in this industry, it's going to create five
hundred jobs in Aurora. I'm sure this is very welcome
for Mayor Mike coffin the Ero City Council, the city
Aurora entire, but that people who live in Denver within
the city limits, all they have to do now, you
(27:11):
would think, is travel next door. There's this great source
of this new product that's been authorized by the FDA.
Zen is a product that again when you get that
FDA seal of approval that's not that is well earned.
So what is message does this send in your mind
for consumers and people that might look to legitimately be
(27:31):
wanting to quit smoking and have a transition product which
Zen is and offers to them. How much business do
you think is simply going to travel across this city
limits from Denver to Aurora.
Speaker 13 (27:42):
Yeah, and that's not just with Zin, right. If you
think about all the other smoke free products, You're thinking
about your napes and your heated spacco, all of that
business is going to leave the city, right, It's not
just a Zen And so you know there's a bunch
of other things that can happen there. You know, if
I used to be a smoker and I've switched to
a smoke free product and it's too hard for me
to go get the product I want, I.
Speaker 14 (28:01):
Might go back to smoking.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Right.
Speaker 13 (28:03):
And also if I think I can see an opportunity
if I'm a little unseemly and I could sell flavored
products in Denver, maybe not through regular channels and other
lificit market. Yeah, guess what's not regulated the illicit market.
So there's a lot of unintended consequences that this band
can cause.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Well, they're unintended, but I think they're readily visible, especially
with everything we've just discussed, doctor Erkola, and I've just
you know, final question. I know somebody in your position
that's looking to advance this product and make it more
available for those and to benefit people, and the FDA
is likely on the same page as you are with
all of it. You have to look at arguments from
(28:42):
the other side, and what I'm seeing is the City
of Denver is doing two things. Like you said, They're
either driving people who seek these products elsewhere right next
door to Aurora where there's going to be a manufacturing
plant set up shop there, or they're driving them to
the black market to pursue them via other means. This
hurts businesses within Denver that might otherwise sell Zen and
(29:03):
similar type products.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What is the upside?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
What is the benefit from Denver City Council's perspective.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm trying to figure that out.
Speaker 13 (29:12):
You know, this was done in an effort to curb
any sort of youth use, right, but if you look
at the actual numbers, the use of things like Zen
nicotine pouches is incredibly low. The fd eight pointed out
that it's very low. Maybing is down seventy percent in
the last five years among youths, So really what this
is doing, you know, we can keep it out of
(29:33):
the product of the hands of youth while still allowing
access to adults who need these flavored products.
Speaker 14 (29:38):
It's possible.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
It's possible, and it is probable if you just you know,
follow the guidelines, the laws that were already in place
in which miners were not allowed to purchase these products,
effective use of IDs and karting people for those purchases.
It just seems to be a vast overreaction and we're
seeing what happens and a capitalist economy when you do that,
it's driving business elsewhere and again and that the headlines
(30:01):
to take away from this the FDA authorizing the marketing
of twenty zen nicotine pouch products after extensive scientific review,
and Philip Morris International US affiliate setting up five hundred jobs,
investing six hundred million dollars in an Aurora, Colorado manufacturing facility.
It's a fascinating story as the developments come in and
(30:23):
we'll be keep in touch with you, doctor Brian Erkla
for anything that comes down the pike and anything that
might change going here and forward.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 13 (30:33):
Of course, can't wait to join you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Have a good one, all right, Doctor Brian erkele your
thoughts there.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
If you are a nicotine user, if you've tried to
use smoking cessation products, if zen is one of those
things that may have benefited you, or you think it
might benefit you, give me a text five seven seven
three nine. Or if you see Denver City Council's point,
you disagree with doctor Urcula and myself and I don't
really have a dog in this fight. I am not
(30:57):
a nicotine user or smoker, never have been. But the
part of me that really leans hard libertarian is coming
to the fore here because I don't see the genuine,
tangible upside of what the Denver City Council has done
with this flavored smoke free nicotine product ban in Denver,
and it's only going to benefit next door Aurora. I'm
(31:19):
not really calculating this or figuring it out. Maybe you
can help me five seven seven three nine. Well, round out,
we have another edition of Trump's Hot Takes. When we
come back. Our number one concludes after this on Ryan
Schruling Live, I to bother.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
You that Elon Musk precise the deal that he made publicly,
that he said prety.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Tree of that.
Speaker 15 (31:41):
No, he hates one of the people in the deal. No, No,
I've well, I spoken, but I spoke at all of them. Actually, No,
people in the deal are very very se people. But
Dila one of the people.
Speaker 14 (31:54):
They have to say.
Speaker 15 (31:55):
But I have certain hatreds of people too.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
One of the people he happens to.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Hey, but I have certain hatreds of people too, So
he can relate. And it's okay if Elon doesn't like
everything he does, and it's okay in reverse if Trump
doesn't agree with everything Elon Musk recommends with Doge. But
the Democrats, the left, the media either don't want to
believe this or are having a hard time wrapping the
heads their heads around believing it. Jim Acosta, I don't
(32:25):
have enough time here, but we're gonna get into his
first remark since leaving CNN, And of course, what rabbit
hole does he go down? He guessed did Project twenty
twenty five? Just a total shill, just an absolute partisan hack.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He always has been.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
He wasn't a newsman, he wasn't applying the same journalistic
standard to the left of the Biden administration that he
did to Trump. They all become these brave journalists when
it's Trump in Ovie, and then they all disappear and
scatter when Joe Biden was present of four years ruining everything.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So pardon me if I don't take Jim acost to that.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Seriously, Let's go to your texts five seven, seven, three nine.
By my count, if the National Popular Vote Compact had
been in place, the electoral college would have been five
twenty to eighteen for Trump.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That from FJP five twenty to eighteen.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
You say, well, I during the break, I pulled up
the map and the result, of course, was three twelve
to two twenty six, a substantial landslide electoral college.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Win for Trump three twelve to two twenty six.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
But then I checked out the Wikipedia page for the
National Popular Vote Compact.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now, this would only take.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Effect if the combined total of the states agreeing to
it was two hundred seventy votes are greater, which would
give the compact legal force.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But guess what, As I stated, they're all blue states.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
So of the two hundred twenty six electoral votes that
Kamala Harris's let's peel them all away and see what
would have happened had the national popular vote Interstate Compact
been an effect. Washington, Oregon, California all gone turn it
red for Trump. I'm not saying this is right. I'm
not saying I agree with it. This is what the
(34:15):
left wanted. This is what we idiots in Colorado voted
to join on to. And by the way, Colorado's ten
electoral votes Trump New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, all of Maine.
Of course they have that apportioned by congressional district that
Nebraska does.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But nope, they've signed onto the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Hold kitt and caboodle all of Maine's electoral votes, the
four of them to Trump. Vermont a communist state. Basically,
they elect Bernie Sanders every election cycle to Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Massachusetts, maybe the blue est.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
State in the Union, Trump, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland,
the District of Columbia all Trump. Now, for some reason,
it shows Nevada, Texas, US in Florida, and Virginia as pending.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Not this is an idiotic idea, But the Texter is right.
If you flipped all the Compact states read which they
would have had to on the National Popular Vote Compact.
Only New Hampshire, Virginia and one electoral vote in Nebraska
would have gone to Kamala Harris. This map looks a
lot like Reagan nineteen eighty four. And that's what we
(35:25):
would have had. Is that what you intended Democrats, leftists
who thought, ti, we're going to own the national popular
vote through demographic destiny for several election cycles and generations. Oh,
it always boomerangs back, and it's delicious and glorious.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
When it does. It's stupid. Colorado's ten electoral votes should
have gone to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
They did, But Democrats are their own worst enemies, and
they just proved it again.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
We'll take this freak.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
We'll come back our number two straight ahead, Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Keep it locked and loaded right here,
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