April 9, 2025 • 38 mins
Jimmy Sengenberger, columnist and investigative reporter for The Denver Gazette, joins Ryan to discuss his latest article, entitled 'Griswold would make a mockery of AG’s office.'
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Moving markets.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Right now is a brand new truth social out from
President Trump. The now is surging now at fifteen hundred
points on this President Trump has just put out a
true social saying. Based on the lack of respect that
China has shown to the world's markets, I am hereby
raising the tariff charge to China by the US to
one hundred and twenty five percent, effective immediately. At some point,
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hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the
days of ripping off the USA and other countries is
no longer sustainable or acceptable. Conversely, and based on the
fact that more than seventy five countries have called reps
of the United States, including the Department's Commerce, Treasury, and
the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subjects being
discussed relative to trade, trade barriers, tariffs, currency manipulation, and
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non monetary teriffs, and that these countries have not, at
my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape or form
against the US. And here's the big news grabbing the headlines.
I've authorized a ninety day pause capital letters and a
substantially lowered reciprocal tariff during this period of ten percent,
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also effective immediately. He finishes with thank you for your
attention on this matter. That's a new true social john
out from the president moments ago. The markets obviously reacting
to that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's Sandra Smith from Fox News breaking just a little
bit earlier today that President Trump has announced he has
suspended the tariffs as they were scheduled to go out
against many of our allied nations and many of those
that have become trade partners with US who wouldn't necessarily
be considered military allies, but with the notable exception of
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China from this list, now we're in an escalating tariff
percentage battle with China. Might want to call it short
of a war, I suppose, but a lot of people
and the criticism is going to be that President Trump
is kind of making this up as we go along.
The Dow Jones has responded very favorably to this, In fact,
across all markets, the Dow recovering about eight percent of
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its value north of forty thousand once again here today,
the S and P five hundred up by nine and
a half percent, the Nasdaq up by eight and a
half percent, the nasdak come Posit up by twelve all
in response to this ninety day pause announcement by President
Trump on Truth Social Now he's speaking from the Old
Office now after signing some executive orders, we're going to
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pull the rush limbo here and drip it. Join it
in progress, if you would, Zach, go ahead and pull
that up, and we'll listen to what he says.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I don't know what to do with it. You see
those areas all the time with the flooding. So we're
doing that, and we're going to get all of the
things that you've seen.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think we said a record will almost two.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hundred and five hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Amendments.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Nobody's ever done that. We're going to get them approved
by Congress so their memorialized, and we look.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Forward to doing that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's very important that Congress is going to start working
on it as soon as we get the big beautiful deal.
The Big beautiful deal is important, the biggest.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Tax cuts in the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's important.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
So he's signing executive orders here, just kind of fill
in the blanks on Ryan Schruling Live. This is sound
of Fox News, and there are assembled media there. You
have to believe they're gonna be asking him about the
ninety day pause and Terraffs, good shower.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
We rate the signition. That was a ten. That's question.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
This is another executive order relating to the regulations there.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
There are a lot of regulations on the books. Okay,
So while he's doing that, we'll fade out of that,
Zach and see if he comes back starts bantering with
the press again. I believe that he will. But one
of the stabilizing voices through all of this, and I
think he has shined during the tariff implementation announcement. It
was at midnight last night that the tariff against China
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four percent, and now that number has gone up, will
backfill on the other side after China executed some retaliatory tariffs.
But here's Scott Besson talking to Maria Bartaromo earlier this morning.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
We have opened this process of negotiations country by country.
It's going to be a bespoke, tailored process for each country.
And as we strike these trade deals, I think that
we will see greater and greater certainty.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And he talks about certainty from specific countries that have
already reached out to President Trump, and this no doubt
prompted President Trump to take the action that he did today.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
We have a delegation from Vietnam, and I was at
the ambassador's residence, the Japanese Ambassador's residence here in DC
for the Cherry Blossom Festival last night, which was fantastic,
And a Japanese delegation will be coming soon, South Korea, India,
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the UK. So I think we are going to see
a rapid success of these deals that will give CEOs
greater certainty. But I think nothing gives greater certainty than
getting this tax bill done.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And President Trump just mentioned that a moment ago as well.
China countered with eighty four percent tariffs on American goods,
but we already know the trade barriers that are there
with China. And Scott Bessen again he's the Treasury Secretary,
commented on China as Trump upped the tariff on China
in the wake of this announcement of the ninety d
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pause except for China, China from one hundred four percent
to one hundred and twenty five percent.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
I think it's unfortunate that the Chinese actually don't want
to come and negotiate because they are the worst defenders
in the international trading system. They have the most imbalanced
economy in the history of the modern world. And you know,
I can tell you that this escalation is a.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Loser for them, a loser for them, and going further
down this China path, Kevin O'Leary has been a real
flamethrower in all of this, and he gives very substantive
reasons behind why he feels the way that he does.
And he wouldn't just go to one hundred and four
percent one hundred and twenty five percent. He's going to
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turn it up even further.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
One hundred and four percent. Tariffs in China are not enough.
I'm advocating four hundred percent. I do business in China.
They don't play by the rules. They've been in the
WHO for decades. They have never abided by any of
the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades.
They cheat, they steal, they steal ip I can't litigate
in their courts. They take product, technology, they steal it,
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they manufacture and sell it back here. Never has an administration.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Four hundred percent which I.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Want Chi on an airplane to Washington to level the
playing field.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's about time Kevin O'Leary is making that underlying point
that we have taken this abuse from China for many years.
There's a couple of reasons for that. They have enjoyed
Most Favored Nation status, which has trade implications for several
decades now, as a means of spurring the trade arrangement
between the US and China, but it has come at
an enormous cost for the American manufacturing industry and American
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consumers have only benefited because of China's manipulation of currency
because of their cheating when it comes to the production
of intellectual property that they regularly feeve on an everyday basis.
That could be ip that could be patent information, that
could be production, and those sorts of systems. China has
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exploited their own labor. You know, we heard here about it.
Weiger slave labor making Nike shoes and other electronics and
objects like that. If you're okay with that, and your
iPhone is completely assembled in China by slave labor, then
we can go on and consumers do benefit to us
certain extent with that. But on the back end, this
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is cyclical. It affects American workers and jobs. It affects
the power of the dollar and the spending power of
that dollar for individual Americans it's what dictates that our
money doesn't go as far as it used to. Not
just the inflationary pressures from our own economy, our own spending.
That's bad enough, but that China is undercutting the world markets.
And Kevin O'Leary, once again here on CNN, says that
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he's had enough.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
It says not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on
China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades. As
someone who actually does business there, I've had enough. I
speak for millions of Americans who have ip that have
been stolen by the Chinese. I have nothing against the
Chinese people. They've brought great literacy, art, and tech to
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the world. The government cheats and steals. And finally an administration.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You may not like Trump, you may not like your
style or his rhetorics.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Finally an administration that puts up and says enough.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And these are policies that up until just two minutes ago,
Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, several Democratic leaders were
very much in favor of because, ostensibly, at one point,
at least in the nineteen nineties, these Democrats claimed to
represent the American working class, the blue collar russ Belt,
Upper Midwest, flyover country, overlooked and forgotten men and women
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in America's production sector when it comes to manufacturing. Now,
President Obama had a very cynical worldview of this, saying, oh,
can't just wait a mile magic wand bring those jobs back.
They're gone, They're never coming back. And then Trump became
president and brought a lot of those jobs back. They're
not going to be the same. You know, We're not
going to have the same kind of assembly lines that
my grandmother worked on for Detroit Diesel were time after time.
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It's the same part. I mean, we have robotics to
replace that, but there are other jobs in the tech
industry and in manufacturing of automobiles that can use American
human labor. And this is why Sean Fain, president of
the UAW was so adamant and his support for Donald
Trump and his tariff regime. Here at least the ends
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justifying the means. Now again, the criticism is going to
be is Trump just kind of making it up as
he goes along. That may be partly true. He might
be kind of a madman that has a method to
the madness. But you know where is this leading and
what is the exact precise logic behind it. I think
Trump has a broad view and he knows where he
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wants to get, and he kind of knows how to
get there, and he's willing to kind of break a
few things in order to get there, and he wants
to bring people to the table to what make a
deal the art of the deal. Now how he got there,
you could say, again, I talked about this this week
so far Ben Shapiro has criticized, and why you don't
just say, you know, this is what we want and
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to our ally we want to get to a zero
tear off policy. That's something Elon Musk has backed. That's
something I support. Let's have true free trade. But it
hasn't been. The deck has been stacked against us in
the United States basically for the entire post World War
two period. At first, we kind of gave people a
pass and extended them some grace because Europe was destroyed,
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the UK had been bombarded, Japan had been leveled by
two nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and we took
it upon ourselves as the loan remaining standing superpower post
World War two, to help rebuild the world through the
Marshall Plan, but that extended through the fifties and the
sixties and into the seventies, which were a down depressive
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economic decade on the whole for the United States until
Reaganomics came in in the nineteen eighties, and that continued
through Bill Clinton's success in the nineteen nineties. And never
did it ever occur to a president to incur this
kind of political heat, to spend that political capital, to
take that kind of pressure in those slings and arrows
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that would no doubt be coming in because it would
be the right thing to do to stand up for
America to make sure that we got back on level
footing at some point rather than being the world's piggy
bank ATM machine source for military cover. And by the way,
while we provide all those services dollars, etc. Manpower, military
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service members putting their lives on the line to defend
a lot of these countries, we were getting clocked when
it came to NATO's supposed allied countries, or the European Union,
or in the United Nations, where they would constantly criticize
the United States, try to undermine our authority and place
in the world. And then we got it from within
from Marxist democrats who criticized our founding, who said that
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we were a sixteen nineteen country, not a seventeen seventy
six country that was founded by white supremacists in the
backs of slaves alone, distorting our American history and founding
as a means of completely decimating what the American dream was.
It is the American dream for every individual who wants
to come here legally and be the type of success
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story that we've seen time and time again. Now Kevin
O'Leary again, he's talking tough. I love this and he
just spits straight facts right here.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Four hundred percent tariffs Tomorrow morning, he'll tell you why
she can only stay the Supreme leader if people are employed,
if we wipe out any business there, Because we are
still thirty nine percent of all consumables on Earth and
twenty five percent of the world's GDP. America is the
number one economy on Earth with all the cars.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We will not have that forever.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That is quite a metaphor. Squeeze Chinese heads into the
wall now, says Kevin O'Leary. Now this is the type
of trade policy and tough talk. Should it have been
specifically targeted towards China. I believe that I'm not extremely
knowledgeable when it comes to these finer points, the micro
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of it, but the macro of it. If you listen
to this program I've been supporting going back to when
Governor Ron Desantos was running for president and he ran
on perhaps the toughest China trade policy stances that we've
seen from any presidential candidate in either party. And I
think a lot of what is happening is following along
those lines in all out trade war with China. That
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sounds pretty bad, But when you have the rest of
the world lining up to trade with the United States instead,
and you isolate China, you corner them, and now they're
put on defense for the first time ever. I talked
about the most favored nation status. That's a lark, that's
a joke. Why we continue with that? Also that they
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continue to classify themselves China, this communist juggernaut, this economic
machine that makes billions of dollars for its leaders yearly.
They are considered still get this, a developing nation, so
they enjoy all of those benefits for the United Nations
on the world stage, the game is rigged to favor
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the Chinese on every platform, whether that's political, economical, on trade,
you name it. Labor, they don't have to give their
workers' rights, they don't have to pay them a living wage.
It's a communist dictatorship, and you'll get what you get,
and you won't get pretty much anything that you need
above and beyond meager mere survival, borderline slave labor, child labor,
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weager slave labor in camps. That's completely permissible. And for
years I pointed out the hypocrisy of American consumers, including myself,
that you'd be willing to go to Walmart or wherever
else and buy goods that were produced made in China
distributed here because they were far cheaper to buy. And
that does benefit consumers, But to what end? What is
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the cost of that long term for the American economy,
for the American worker. And I've said, and I admitted
that there was going to be some pain to this,
and that I was willing to endure that me as
a very middle of the road, medium income, middle class
guy at best. At best, that yeah, if it meant
getting to an end that Donald Trump has envisioned for
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us here, or you lie far more on American ingenuity, production, labor,
and far less on China. Being addicted to China is
just that it's like a drug and it has no
positive outcome long term. It does not benefit us long term.
Short term sugar high, yes, but this is not sustainable.
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It has not been sustainable. And to Kevin O'Leary's point,
donald Trump was finally the present to stand up and
do something about it. I think in part because yeah,
in some ways he is definitely a lame duck. He
doesn't have to worry about getting re elected again. I
also think there are things that he didn't have a
chance to address or didn't address in full the way
that he wanted to in his first term as president
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that he regrets. And now with a second bite at
the apple, he is going to make sure that he
gets the job done. So keep a careful eye on
what is Donald Trump prioritizing in this presidency? Two point oh,
what are the things that have come to the front
of the queue of this being one of them? And
why break that down? And I asked Dan Kappls this question.
He and I are very much on the same page here.
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He had that debate with Ross Kaminski a couple of
days ago, and I get the points that Ross is
making much the same way that I get the points
Ben Shapiro is making. But you have to take the
long view into account that Donald Trump, you can look
back forty years. Donald Trump is considering the here and now,
and Donald Trump is looking forward forty years and what
does the world landscape look like from an economic trade standpoint?
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Where does he want it to go and how does
he get there? This has been a calculated effort by
Donald Trump with a very specific intent. I don't think
he's just firing wildly. I do believe that he's Malley
Bull and that he does listen to advisors, and he's
willing to change course, as he just did today with
his ninety day pause on tariffs against more friendly nations
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not China, not China. But I think where we've gotten
to on this square, where we are right now with
the markets reacting so favorably, is perhaps, as you look
at it from a perspective standpoint, Oh, we don't want
all out trade war against everybody in the entire world,
and then we're having to pick off one deal after another,
which is kind of where where we at now. We
can work on those deals for ninety days. Our trade
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partners know that we're serious about tariffs. Trump has put
thrown that gauntlet down, but now reeled that back in
and left the tariffs on China, which tells me the following.
This is just my interpretation of everything that's going on
today that the world, that our markets here in the
United States, that Europe would much rather trade and do
business with the United States on the level and negotiate
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to that end, rather than continue to be kind of
behold China and their whims and their way of doing business,
which is completely crooked and corrupt. So the markets seem
to be sending a message today that they're okay with
a borderline trade war against China and only China. So
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if that's where we're at, this could have a very
positive outcome if we can rally the world to our
side and away from China oriented on the business landscape,
We'll take this time out come back. Jimmy Sangeberger joins
me next on Ryan Schuling Live. Why do errors happen?
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Kyle?
Speaker 10 (19:44):
So again I am going to push back on your
gotcha premise, Absolutely not, Kyle.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The exasperated sighing of Jenna Griswold and Montage form there
Kyle such hard questions, And that was from twenty twenty four.
Kyle Clark nine News interviewing her after the very embarrassing,
to put it, mildly and highly problematic if you think
about it functionally with regard to her job as Secretary
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of State running secure elections, that the passwords were leaked
due to an egregious error, and that this had not
been brought to the attention of county clerk statewide, including
the Democrat ones. That Jenna Griswold was just trying to
sweep this very large, glaring mistake under the rug, and
then she got caught, and then she got called out.
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It was by Republicans, and then Kyle Clark had to
follow up had her on nine next asked her some
very inquisitive questions about you know what happened, Why, why
did you know the cover ups worse than the crime,
Why did you cover it up? Why didn't you come clean?
Did you only do so because Republicans caught you? I'm
going to push back on your gotcha premise. Well, Jimmy Sangberger.
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He wrote a column about it for the Denver Gazette,
and he joins us. Now you can find him on
x at Saang Center, Seng Center CeON ter here on
Ryan Schuling Live, Jimmy welcome.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Hey Ryan. I'm going to hang up if you have
any gotcha premises because I don't think I can handle that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Maybe you can just sigh and then follow up with
how disappointed in me you are?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm always disappointed in you. Nothing's new he that goes
by where I'm not disappointed for some reason you except
when you have me on, I'm not disappointed.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I feel pretty good at some kind of like Trump.
They're a very disappointed in your show, except when you
have me on, then it's a great show. Uh. Their
title of your article, Jimmy is Griswold would make a
mockery of AG's office. Well, she's already done that to
the Secretary of State's office. Why stop there?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, I think she wants to hit all of the
different offices. Maybe she'll go to treasurer next and finally
get permission to run for governor, because that's what she
was originally going to do. In fact, remember she was
caught with a website, Jenna Forgovernor dot com that was
put up by for brother and perennial campaign operative, and
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she got caught actually by nine News. And now, oh wait, no,
I'm actually going to run for Attorney general, particularly because
it looks like US Senator Michael Bennett, believe it or not,
will actually run for governor. And so now we have
somebody who records seemed to show had never tried a
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case in the court of law before being Secretary of State,
let alone filed any legal briefs to be the next
Attorney general. Is people thought pil Wiser wasn't qualified for
being a g when he was elected the first go around.
We got another thing coming for them with Jenna Griswall
because she's not even remotely qualified for the office alone.
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How terrible Ryan that she's been as Secretary of State.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, just when you think things have gotten bad, and
they did with Phil none the Wiser as Attorney General,
and how he beat the highly more qualified George Brockler,
who we spoke with yesterday. Still don't know it was
the D next to his name that was it. Just
when you think things are bad, they can always get worse.
And this would certainly be worse. I want to test
a theory with you after we hear this next clip again.
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This is from a twenty twenty four interview, and I'll
do credit to Comrade Kyle. We have fun with him.
We know he's left of center. He rarely admits it,
but he is. And that's fine. But he really pressed
Jenna Griswold and held her feet to the fire on
this and asked her in this clip. I believe if
she would resign after this absolutely inexplicable and in my mind,
unforgivable error.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
A final question, This is not the first time that
your office has made mistakes that have damaged voter's confidence
in our elections. In twenty twenty two, your office sent
out mailers to thirty thousand non citizens inviting them to
register to vote. They, of course, are not eligible to
register to vote. That same year, your office used Colorado's
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ballot tracking system to send messages to specific Coloraden's encouraging
them to vote, when in fact they had already voted,
causing confusion that had to be cleaned up by the
county clerks. And now this leak of the voting system
passwords given your office's repeated errors that have damaged confidence
in our elections, which you say is paramount.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Will you resign?
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Absolutely not, Kyle, And I just want to your unfairly
characterizing and leaving out some crucial information.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, he included all the crucial information. Those are the
bullet point headlines, takeaways, and he just a viscerated or
with that question. My question for you, Jimmy, is to
test this Dan Kaplis theory, which I think might be
pretty sound, and that is, is Kyle Clark a media
arm extension of the Democratic Party. And secondary to that
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point is he's sort of like an attack dog which
they leash on somebody like Jenna talking about the Democratic
Party now because they don't want her running for governor
and maybe attorney general was some kind of fair compromise
to wrought me through that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, And in fact, I do think it's sort of
a consolation prize. In twenty nineteen, Ryan, she was named
rising Star for the Colorado Democrat Party. Now that year
she was about to announce a campaign for US Senate
and didn't defer to John Hickenlooper. I think that was
the consolation prize. Then now we're consolation prizes. We'll let
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you run for attorney general. By the way, if there's
anything that Kyle left out there, it was that that
letter that went out to non citizens also happened in
twenty twenty, not just twenty twenty two, so it happened
on to different occasions while she was a Secretary of State.
But here's something else about her tenure as secretary that
most people aren't really aware of here paying attention to,
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and that is her literally historic un presidented staff turnover
from nineteen ninety nine through to twenty nineteen or so.
When she took office, there were just two deputy secretaries
of State under six different Secretaries of State, six different people,
including one Democrat, and there was just two Bill Hobbs
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and then Suzanne to Harriet where the two. Then Jenniic
Griswold takes office, and we are now on deputy number
two or number four, excuse me, number four, and we're
not even done with her second term. She's still about
halfway into that. She's also on her sixth chief of staff,
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her fourth legislative liaison, her fourth communications director, and oh
i mentioned deputy secretaries. The first deputy that she brought
into was from a left wing group called Common Cause.
She left it about thirteen months. She signed a confidential
settlement agreement with that first deputy and later on with
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the career employee, would pay him off with one hundred
and twenty thousand dollars in a settlement and he ended
up leaving afterwards. I mean, this is somebody with a
record turnover because of failed leadership and allegations of discrimination
and more. Somebody without a doubt, from qualifications to partisanship
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to failures of leadership, has no business as Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
His articles entitled Griswold would make a mockery of AG's office.
He is Jimmy Sangenberger and he wrote that column for
the Denver Gazette, and that's where you can find it
now at ballot Pedia. I'm looking up the candidates in
this age race for twenty twenty six. There's only been
one declared Republican candidate. That's Connor Pennington and trying to
outpace her on the Democrat side in a primer, there's
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already two other candidates, one of them being Corssanta Duran,
And that name might be familiar because she is a
member of the Colorado House of Representatives. Representing District five,
and then Michael Doherty, who is a Democrat and he
is the prosecutor up in Boulder. I'm not sure if
those two options might be more palatable than Jenna Griswold.
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And for the reasons why we know the following though
about Jenna Griswold. She has a lot of degree from
penn Ivy League. Okay, she's got tremendous fundraising skills. That's
point two. And the other one, Jimmy, and this one
will make your head spin. But I talked about this
with George Brockler yesterday. I think he had a point.
She backed this absolutely outlandish effort to keep Donald Trump
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off the primary ballot here in Colorado, to rob voters
of our agency in a Republican party of which she
is not a member. And she backed that lawsuit that
got through the Colorado circuit courts and the District Court
of Appeals and then got knocked down nine to nothing
by the Supreme Court of the United States, including by
liberal justices Kintanji Brown, Jackson, Elena Kagan, and Sonya Soda Mayor.
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But George's point was, that's a badge of honor that
she would even go so far in the wake of
a nine nothing decision against that the Trump haters in
Colorado will love her even more for that, and it
might actually be an advantage for her in the Democratic primary.
How would you break that down her chances against Iran
and Doherty.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, first of all, I would say I absolutely agree
with that analysis, which is why for a long time
now I have called her a folk hero, a folk
hero for voting rights against Mega. She is running as
the resistance candidate on MSNBC fame, not on qualification. She
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flouts fairness and the rule of law. But instead of
all of that fairness, rule of law, all the kinds
of things you'd want in an attorney general, she's all about,
let's fight back against Trump and MAGA. And the last
thing that Colorado needs is an attorney general who turns
law enforcement into a partisan crusade. If that's what we
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know Jenna Griswold will bring. I think in a three
race it's probably worse or more challenging for her than
a four way or a two way race. However, I
have to say odds are in her favor because she's
the one candidate who can go on to MSNBC as
well as the CNN and rally the base to raise
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money so that she can get her for influence and
her message out there much more than her opponents can do.
She's also demonstrated a national network because she happens to
be the head of the Democratic Association of Secretaries in
State and in that position have basically been the folkrum
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in a dark money network that actually does include money
from George Soros, by the way, the back candidates, including herself,
and so those networks are things that she can uniquely
leverage in a way that a former Speaker of the
House or a district attorney aren't going to be able
to do. On top of that message of I'm going
to be the Attorney General and I will fight and
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resist Donald.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Trump, Griswold will make a mockery of AG's office. The
Denver g isete Jimmy Sangenberger the author. But before I
let you go, Jimmy, now you might have had some
problems with me in this show, but I noticed you
followed in my footsteps on one particular front. You have
also decided you are going to ask the woman you
love to marry you, and you are now engaged to congratulations.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Thank you, my friend. I was wondering if you might
mention this, and I appreciate it. Was a great weekend, sure,
and Victoria and I are very happy today.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
All right, well, we need to go on like a
double date at some point. I think you and Victoria
and me and Kelsey.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I think we need to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
All right, let's make it soon. Jimmy Sangenberger joining us here,
Ryan Shuling live your thoughts five seven seven three nine.
When we come back. Donald Trump speaking to the media. Now,
I want to give you all of that to start
our number two. And Zach's doing a great job of
ligning that up so we can fire it as soon
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Speaker 12 (38:00):
Bob.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Donald Trump's interaction with the media as well, when we
come back after he ended the tariffs
Moving markets.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Right now is a brand new truth social out from
President Trump. The now is surging now at fifteen hundred
points on this President Trump has just put out a
true social saying. Based on the lack of respect that
China has shown to the world's markets, I am hereby
raising the tariff charge to China by the US to
one hundred and twenty five percent, effective immediately. At some point,
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hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the
days of ripping off the USA and other countries is
no longer sustainable or acceptable. Conversely, and based on the
fact that more than seventy five countries have called reps
of the United States, including the Department's Commerce, Treasury, and
the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subjects being
discussed relative to trade, trade barriers, tariffs, currency manipulation, and
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non monetary teriffs, and that these countries have not, at
my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape or form
against the US. And here's the big news grabbing the headlines.
I've authorized a ninety day pause capital letters and a
substantially lowered reciprocal tariff during this period of ten percent,
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also effective immediately. He finishes with thank you for your
attention on this matter. That's a new true social john
out from the president moments ago. The markets obviously reacting
to that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's Sandra Smith from Fox News breaking just a little
bit earlier today that President Trump has announced he has
suspended the tariffs as they were scheduled to go out
against many of our allied nations and many of those
that have become trade partners with US who wouldn't necessarily
be considered military allies, but with the notable exception of
(01:44):
China from this list, now we're in an escalating tariff
percentage battle with China. Might want to call it short
of a war, I suppose, but a lot of people
and the criticism is going to be that President Trump
is kind of making this up as we go along.
The Dow Jones has responded very favorably to this, In fact,
across all markets, the Dow recovering about eight percent of
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its value north of forty thousand once again here today,
the S and P five hundred up by nine and
a half percent, the Nasdaq up by eight and a
half percent, the nasdak come Posit up by twelve all
in response to this ninety day pause announcement by President
Trump on Truth Social Now he's speaking from the Old
Office now after signing some executive orders, we're going to
(02:29):
pull the rush limbo here and drip it. Join it
in progress, if you would, Zach, go ahead and pull
that up, and we'll listen to what he says.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I don't know what to do with it. You see
those areas all the time with the flooding. So we're
doing that, and we're going to get all of the
things that you've seen.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think we said a record will almost two.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hundred and five hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Amendments.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Nobody's ever done that. We're going to get them approved
by Congress so their memorialized, and we look.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Forward to doing that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's very important that Congress is going to start working
on it as soon as we get the big beautiful deal.
The Big beautiful deal is important, the biggest.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Tax cuts in the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's important.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
So he's signing executive orders here, just kind of fill
in the blanks on Ryan Schruling Live. This is sound
of Fox News, and there are assembled media there. You
have to believe they're gonna be asking him about the
ninety day pause and Terraffs, good shower.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
We rate the signition. That was a ten. That's question.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
This is another executive order relating to the regulations there.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
There are a lot of regulations on the books. Okay,
So while he's doing that, we'll fade out of that,
Zach and see if he comes back starts bantering with
the press again. I believe that he will. But one
of the stabilizing voices through all of this, and I
think he has shined during the tariff implementation announcement. It
was at midnight last night that the tariff against China
(03:58):
four percent, and now that number has gone up, will
backfill on the other side after China executed some retaliatory tariffs.
But here's Scott Besson talking to Maria Bartaromo earlier this morning.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
We have opened this process of negotiations country by country.
It's going to be a bespoke, tailored process for each country.
And as we strike these trade deals, I think that
we will see greater and greater certainty.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And he talks about certainty from specific countries that have
already reached out to President Trump, and this no doubt
prompted President Trump to take the action that he did today.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
We have a delegation from Vietnam, and I was at
the ambassador's residence, the Japanese Ambassador's residence here in DC
for the Cherry Blossom Festival last night, which was fantastic,
And a Japanese delegation will be coming soon, South Korea, India,
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the UK. So I think we are going to see
a rapid success of these deals that will give CEOs
greater certainty. But I think nothing gives greater certainty than
getting this tax bill done.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And President Trump just mentioned that a moment ago as well.
China countered with eighty four percent tariffs on American goods,
but we already know the trade barriers that are there
with China. And Scott Bessen again he's the Treasury Secretary,
commented on China as Trump upped the tariff on China
in the wake of this announcement of the ninety d
(05:30):
pause except for China, China from one hundred four percent
to one hundred and twenty five percent.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
I think it's unfortunate that the Chinese actually don't want
to come and negotiate because they are the worst defenders
in the international trading system. They have the most imbalanced
economy in the history of the modern world. And you know,
I can tell you that this escalation is a.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Loser for them, a loser for them, and going further
down this China path, Kevin O'Leary has been a real
flamethrower in all of this, and he gives very substantive
reasons behind why he feels the way that he does.
And he wouldn't just go to one hundred and four
percent one hundred and twenty five percent. He's going to
(06:16):
turn it up even further.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
One hundred and four percent. Tariffs in China are not enough.
I'm advocating four hundred percent. I do business in China.
They don't play by the rules. They've been in the
WHO for decades. They have never abided by any of
the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades.
They cheat, they steal, they steal ip I can't litigate
in their courts. They take product, technology, they steal it,
(06:40):
they manufacture and sell it back here. Never has an administration.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Four hundred percent which I.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Want Chi on an airplane to Washington to level the
playing field.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's about time Kevin O'Leary is making that underlying point
that we have taken this abuse from China for many years.
There's a couple of reasons for that. They have enjoyed
Most Favored Nation status, which has trade implications for several
decades now, as a means of spurring the trade arrangement
between the US and China, but it has come at
an enormous cost for the American manufacturing industry and American
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consumers have only benefited because of China's manipulation of currency
because of their cheating when it comes to the production
of intellectual property that they regularly feeve on an everyday basis.
That could be ip that could be patent information, that
could be production, and those sorts of systems. China has
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exploited their own labor. You know, we heard here about it.
Weiger slave labor making Nike shoes and other electronics and
objects like that. If you're okay with that, and your
iPhone is completely assembled in China by slave labor, then
we can go on and consumers do benefit to us
certain extent with that. But on the back end, this
(08:02):
is cyclical. It affects American workers and jobs. It affects
the power of the dollar and the spending power of
that dollar for individual Americans it's what dictates that our
money doesn't go as far as it used to. Not
just the inflationary pressures from our own economy, our own spending.
That's bad enough, but that China is undercutting the world markets.
And Kevin O'Leary, once again here on CNN, says that
(08:25):
he's had enough.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
It says not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on
China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades. As
someone who actually does business there, I've had enough. I
speak for millions of Americans who have ip that have
been stolen by the Chinese. I have nothing against the
Chinese people. They've brought great literacy, art, and tech to
(08:50):
the world. The government cheats and steals. And finally an administration.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You may not like Trump, you may not like your
style or his rhetorics.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Finally an administration that puts up and says enough.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And these are policies that up until just two minutes ago,
Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, several Democratic leaders were
very much in favor of because, ostensibly, at one point,
at least in the nineteen nineties, these Democrats claimed to
represent the American working class, the blue collar russ Belt,
Upper Midwest, flyover country, overlooked and forgotten men and women
(09:31):
in America's production sector when it comes to manufacturing. Now,
President Obama had a very cynical worldview of this, saying, oh,
can't just wait a mile magic wand bring those jobs back.
They're gone, They're never coming back. And then Trump became
president and brought a lot of those jobs back. They're
not going to be the same. You know, We're not
going to have the same kind of assembly lines that
my grandmother worked on for Detroit Diesel were time after time.
(09:54):
It's the same part. I mean, we have robotics to
replace that, but there are other jobs in the tech
industry and in manufacturing of automobiles that can use American
human labor. And this is why Sean Fain, president of
the UAW was so adamant and his support for Donald
Trump and his tariff regime. Here at least the ends
(10:14):
justifying the means. Now again, the criticism is going to
be is Trump just kind of making it up as
he goes along. That may be partly true. He might
be kind of a madman that has a method to
the madness. But you know where is this leading and
what is the exact precise logic behind it. I think
Trump has a broad view and he knows where he
(10:36):
wants to get, and he kind of knows how to
get there, and he's willing to kind of break a
few things in order to get there, and he wants
to bring people to the table to what make a
deal the art of the deal. Now how he got there,
you could say, again, I talked about this this week
so far Ben Shapiro has criticized, and why you don't
just say, you know, this is what we want and
(10:59):
to our ally we want to get to a zero
tear off policy. That's something Elon Musk has backed. That's
something I support. Let's have true free trade. But it
hasn't been. The deck has been stacked against us in
the United States basically for the entire post World War
two period. At first, we kind of gave people a
pass and extended them some grace because Europe was destroyed,
(11:20):
the UK had been bombarded, Japan had been leveled by
two nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and we took
it upon ourselves as the loan remaining standing superpower post
World War two, to help rebuild the world through the
Marshall Plan, but that extended through the fifties and the
sixties and into the seventies, which were a down depressive
(11:42):
economic decade on the whole for the United States until
Reaganomics came in in the nineteen eighties, and that continued
through Bill Clinton's success in the nineteen nineties. And never
did it ever occur to a president to incur this
kind of political heat, to spend that political capital, to
take that kind of pressure in those slings and arrows
(12:02):
that would no doubt be coming in because it would
be the right thing to do to stand up for
America to make sure that we got back on level
footing at some point rather than being the world's piggy
bank ATM machine source for military cover. And by the way,
while we provide all those services dollars, etc. Manpower, military
(12:23):
service members putting their lives on the line to defend
a lot of these countries, we were getting clocked when
it came to NATO's supposed allied countries, or the European Union,
or in the United Nations, where they would constantly criticize
the United States, try to undermine our authority and place
in the world. And then we got it from within
from Marxist democrats who criticized our founding, who said that
(12:45):
we were a sixteen nineteen country, not a seventeen seventy
six country that was founded by white supremacists in the
backs of slaves alone, distorting our American history and founding
as a means of completely decimating what the American dream was.
It is the American dream for every individual who wants
to come here legally and be the type of success
(13:08):
story that we've seen time and time again. Now Kevin
O'Leary again, he's talking tough. I love this and he
just spits straight facts right here.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Four hundred percent tariffs Tomorrow morning, he'll tell you why
she can only stay the Supreme leader if people are employed,
if we wipe out any business there, Because we are
still thirty nine percent of all consumables on Earth and
twenty five percent of the world's GDP. America is the
number one economy on Earth with all the cars.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We will not have that forever.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That is quite a metaphor. Squeeze Chinese heads into the
wall now, says Kevin O'Leary. Now this is the type
of trade policy and tough talk. Should it have been
specifically targeted towards China. I believe that I'm not extremely
knowledgeable when it comes to these finer points, the micro
(14:05):
of it, but the macro of it. If you listen
to this program I've been supporting going back to when
Governor Ron Desantos was running for president and he ran
on perhaps the toughest China trade policy stances that we've
seen from any presidential candidate in either party. And I
think a lot of what is happening is following along
those lines in all out trade war with China. That
(14:28):
sounds pretty bad, But when you have the rest of
the world lining up to trade with the United States instead,
and you isolate China, you corner them, and now they're
put on defense for the first time ever. I talked
about the most favored nation status. That's a lark, that's
a joke. Why we continue with that? Also that they
(14:49):
continue to classify themselves China, this communist juggernaut, this economic
machine that makes billions of dollars for its leaders yearly.
They are considered still get this, a developing nation, so
they enjoy all of those benefits for the United Nations
on the world stage, the game is rigged to favor
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the Chinese on every platform, whether that's political, economical, on trade,
you name it. Labor, they don't have to give their
workers' rights, they don't have to pay them a living wage.
It's a communist dictatorship, and you'll get what you get,
and you won't get pretty much anything that you need
above and beyond meager mere survival, borderline slave labor, child labor,
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weager slave labor in camps. That's completely permissible. And for
years I pointed out the hypocrisy of American consumers, including myself,
that you'd be willing to go to Walmart or wherever
else and buy goods that were produced made in China
distributed here because they were far cheaper to buy. And
that does benefit consumers, But to what end? What is
(15:59):
the cost of that long term for the American economy,
for the American worker. And I've said, and I admitted
that there was going to be some pain to this,
and that I was willing to endure that me as
a very middle of the road, medium income, middle class
guy at best. At best, that yeah, if it meant
getting to an end that Donald Trump has envisioned for
(16:21):
us here, or you lie far more on American ingenuity, production, labor,
and far less on China. Being addicted to China is
just that it's like a drug and it has no
positive outcome long term. It does not benefit us long term.
Short term sugar high, yes, but this is not sustainable.
(16:42):
It has not been sustainable. And to Kevin O'Leary's point,
donald Trump was finally the present to stand up and
do something about it. I think in part because yeah,
in some ways he is definitely a lame duck. He
doesn't have to worry about getting re elected again. I
also think there are things that he didn't have a
chance to address or didn't address in full the way
that he wanted to in his first term as president
(17:05):
that he regrets. And now with a second bite at
the apple, he is going to make sure that he
gets the job done. So keep a careful eye on
what is Donald Trump prioritizing in this presidency? Two point oh,
what are the things that have come to the front
of the queue of this being one of them? And
why break that down? And I asked Dan Kappls this question.
He and I are very much on the same page here.
(17:25):
He had that debate with Ross Kaminski a couple of
days ago, and I get the points that Ross is
making much the same way that I get the points
Ben Shapiro is making. But you have to take the
long view into account that Donald Trump, you can look
back forty years. Donald Trump is considering the here and now,
and Donald Trump is looking forward forty years and what
does the world landscape look like from an economic trade standpoint?
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Where does he want it to go and how does
he get there? This has been a calculated effort by
Donald Trump with a very specific intent. I don't think
he's just firing wildly. I do believe that he's Malley
Bull and that he does listen to advisors, and he's
willing to change course, as he just did today with
his ninety day pause on tariffs against more friendly nations
(18:09):
not China, not China. But I think where we've gotten
to on this square, where we are right now with
the markets reacting so favorably, is perhaps, as you look
at it from a perspective standpoint, Oh, we don't want
all out trade war against everybody in the entire world,
and then we're having to pick off one deal after another,
which is kind of where where we at now. We
can work on those deals for ninety days. Our trade
(18:31):
partners know that we're serious about tariffs. Trump has put
thrown that gauntlet down, but now reeled that back in
and left the tariffs on China, which tells me the following.
This is just my interpretation of everything that's going on
today that the world, that our markets here in the
United States, that Europe would much rather trade and do
business with the United States on the level and negotiate
(18:55):
to that end, rather than continue to be kind of
behold China and their whims and their way of doing business,
which is completely crooked and corrupt. So the markets seem
to be sending a message today that they're okay with
a borderline trade war against China and only China. So
(19:16):
if that's where we're at, this could have a very
positive outcome if we can rally the world to our
side and away from China oriented on the business landscape,
We'll take this time out come back. Jimmy Sangeberger joins
me next on Ryan Schuling Live. Why do errors happen?
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Kyle?
Speaker 10 (19:44):
So again I am going to push back on your
gotcha premise, Absolutely not, Kyle.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The exasperated sighing of Jenna Griswold and Montage form there
Kyle such hard questions, And that was from twenty twenty four.
Kyle Clark nine News interviewing her after the very embarrassing,
to put it, mildly and highly problematic if you think
about it functionally with regard to her job as Secretary
(20:16):
of State running secure elections, that the passwords were leaked
due to an egregious error, and that this had not
been brought to the attention of county clerk statewide, including
the Democrat ones. That Jenna Griswold was just trying to
sweep this very large, glaring mistake under the rug, and
then she got caught, and then she got called out.
(20:38):
It was by Republicans, and then Kyle Clark had to
follow up had her on nine next asked her some
very inquisitive questions about you know what happened, Why, why
did you know the cover ups worse than the crime,
Why did you cover it up? Why didn't you come clean?
Did you only do so because Republicans caught you? I'm
going to push back on your gotcha premise. Well, Jimmy Sangberger.
(21:02):
He wrote a column about it for the Denver Gazette,
and he joins us. Now you can find him on
x at Saang Center, Seng Center CeON ter here on
Ryan Schuling Live, Jimmy welcome.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Hey Ryan. I'm going to hang up if you have
any gotcha premises because I don't think I can handle that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Maybe you can just sigh and then follow up with
how disappointed in me you are?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm always disappointed in you. Nothing's new he that goes
by where I'm not disappointed for some reason you except
when you have me on, I'm not disappointed.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I feel pretty good at some kind of like Trump.
They're a very disappointed in your show, except when you
have me on, then it's a great show. Uh. Their
title of your article, Jimmy is Griswold would make a
mockery of AG's office. Well, she's already done that to
the Secretary of State's office. Why stop there?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, I think she wants to hit all of the
different offices. Maybe she'll go to treasurer next and finally
get permission to run for governor, because that's what she
was originally going to do. In fact, remember she was
caught with a website, Jenna Forgovernor dot com that was
put up by for brother and perennial campaign operative, and
(22:15):
she got caught actually by nine News. And now, oh wait, no,
I'm actually going to run for Attorney general, particularly because
it looks like US Senator Michael Bennett, believe it or not,
will actually run for governor. And so now we have
somebody who records seemed to show had never tried a
(22:37):
case in the court of law before being Secretary of State,
let alone filed any legal briefs to be the next
Attorney general. Is people thought pil Wiser wasn't qualified for
being a g when he was elected the first go around.
We got another thing coming for them with Jenna Griswall
because she's not even remotely qualified for the office alone.
(23:00):
How terrible Ryan that she's been as Secretary of State.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, just when you think things have gotten bad, and
they did with Phil none the Wiser as Attorney General,
and how he beat the highly more qualified George Brockler,
who we spoke with yesterday. Still don't know it was
the D next to his name that was it. Just
when you think things are bad, they can always get worse.
And this would certainly be worse. I want to test
a theory with you after we hear this next clip again.
(23:24):
This is from a twenty twenty four interview, and I'll
do credit to Comrade Kyle. We have fun with him.
We know he's left of center. He rarely admits it,
but he is. And that's fine. But he really pressed
Jenna Griswold and held her feet to the fire on
this and asked her in this clip. I believe if
she would resign after this absolutely inexplicable and in my mind,
unforgivable error.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
A final question, This is not the first time that
your office has made mistakes that have damaged voter's confidence
in our elections. In twenty twenty two, your office sent
out mailers to thirty thousand non citizens inviting them to
register to vote. They, of course, are not eligible to
register to vote. That same year, your office used Colorado's
(24:02):
ballot tracking system to send messages to specific Coloraden's encouraging
them to vote, when in fact they had already voted,
causing confusion that had to be cleaned up by the
county clerks. And now this leak of the voting system
passwords given your office's repeated errors that have damaged confidence
in our elections, which you say is paramount.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Will you resign?
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Absolutely not, Kyle, And I just want to your unfairly
characterizing and leaving out some crucial information.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, he included all the crucial information. Those are the
bullet point headlines, takeaways, and he just a viscerated or
with that question. My question for you, Jimmy, is to
test this Dan Kaplis theory, which I think might be
pretty sound, and that is, is Kyle Clark a media
arm extension of the Democratic Party. And secondary to that
(24:57):
point is he's sort of like an attack dog which
they leash on somebody like Jenna talking about the Democratic
Party now because they don't want her running for governor
and maybe attorney general was some kind of fair compromise
to wrought me through that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, And in fact, I do think it's sort of
a consolation prize. In twenty nineteen, Ryan, she was named
rising Star for the Colorado Democrat Party. Now that year
she was about to announce a campaign for US Senate
and didn't defer to John Hickenlooper. I think that was
the consolation prize. Then now we're consolation prizes. We'll let
(25:34):
you run for attorney general. By the way, if there's
anything that Kyle left out there, it was that that
letter that went out to non citizens also happened in
twenty twenty, not just twenty twenty two, so it happened
on to different occasions while she was a Secretary of State.
But here's something else about her tenure as secretary that
most people aren't really aware of here paying attention to,
(25:57):
and that is her literally historic un presidented staff turnover
from nineteen ninety nine through to twenty nineteen or so.
When she took office, there were just two deputy secretaries
of State under six different Secretaries of State, six different people,
including one Democrat, and there was just two Bill Hobbs
(26:20):
and then Suzanne to Harriet where the two. Then Jenniic
Griswold takes office, and we are now on deputy number
two or number four, excuse me, number four, and we're
not even done with her second term. She's still about
halfway into that. She's also on her sixth chief of staff,
(26:40):
her fourth legislative liaison, her fourth communications director, and oh
i mentioned deputy secretaries. The first deputy that she brought
into was from a left wing group called Common Cause.
She left it about thirteen months. She signed a confidential
settlement agreement with that first deputy and later on with
(27:00):
the career employee, would pay him off with one hundred
and twenty thousand dollars in a settlement and he ended
up leaving afterwards. I mean, this is somebody with a
record turnover because of failed leadership and allegations of discrimination
and more. Somebody without a doubt, from qualifications to partisanship
(27:23):
to failures of leadership, has no business as Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
His articles entitled Griswold would make a mockery of AG's office.
He is Jimmy Sangenberger and he wrote that column for
the Denver Gazette, and that's where you can find it
now at ballot Pedia. I'm looking up the candidates in
this age race for twenty twenty six. There's only been
one declared Republican candidate. That's Connor Pennington and trying to
outpace her on the Democrat side in a primer, there's
(27:48):
already two other candidates, one of them being Corssanta Duran,
And that name might be familiar because she is a
member of the Colorado House of Representatives. Representing District five,
and then Michael Doherty, who is a Democrat and he
is the prosecutor up in Boulder. I'm not sure if
those two options might be more palatable than Jenna Griswold.
(28:09):
And for the reasons why we know the following though
about Jenna Griswold. She has a lot of degree from
penn Ivy League. Okay, she's got tremendous fundraising skills. That's
point two. And the other one, Jimmy, and this one
will make your head spin. But I talked about this
with George Brockler yesterday. I think he had a point.
She backed this absolutely outlandish effort to keep Donald Trump
(28:29):
off the primary ballot here in Colorado, to rob voters
of our agency in a Republican party of which she
is not a member. And she backed that lawsuit that
got through the Colorado circuit courts and the District Court
of Appeals and then got knocked down nine to nothing
by the Supreme Court of the United States, including by
liberal justices Kintanji Brown, Jackson, Elena Kagan, and Sonya Soda Mayor.
(28:53):
But George's point was, that's a badge of honor that
she would even go so far in the wake of
a nine nothing decision against that the Trump haters in
Colorado will love her even more for that, and it
might actually be an advantage for her in the Democratic primary.
How would you break that down her chances against Iran
and Doherty.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, first of all, I would say I absolutely agree
with that analysis, which is why for a long time
now I have called her a folk hero, a folk
hero for voting rights against Mega. She is running as
the resistance candidate on MSNBC fame, not on qualification. She
(29:34):
flouts fairness and the rule of law. But instead of
all of that fairness, rule of law, all the kinds
of things you'd want in an attorney general, she's all about,
let's fight back against Trump and MAGA. And the last
thing that Colorado needs is an attorney general who turns
law enforcement into a partisan crusade. If that's what we
(29:55):
know Jenna Griswold will bring. I think in a three
race it's probably worse or more challenging for her than
a four way or a two way race. However, I
have to say odds are in her favor because she's
the one candidate who can go on to MSNBC as
well as the CNN and rally the base to raise
(30:17):
money so that she can get her for influence and
her message out there much more than her opponents can do.
She's also demonstrated a national network because she happens to
be the head of the Democratic Association of Secretaries in
State and in that position have basically been the folkrum
(30:38):
in a dark money network that actually does include money
from George Soros, by the way, the back candidates, including herself,
and so those networks are things that she can uniquely
leverage in a way that a former Speaker of the
House or a district attorney aren't going to be able
to do. On top of that message of I'm going
to be the Attorney General and I will fight and
(31:01):
resist Donald.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Trump, Griswold will make a mockery of AG's office. The
Denver g isete Jimmy Sangenberger the author. But before I
let you go, Jimmy, now you might have had some
problems with me in this show, but I noticed you
followed in my footsteps on one particular front. You have
also decided you are going to ask the woman you
love to marry you, and you are now engaged to congratulations.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Thank you, my friend. I was wondering if you might
mention this, and I appreciate it. Was a great weekend, sure,
and Victoria and I are very happy today.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
All right, well, we need to go on like a
double date at some point. I think you and Victoria
and me and Kelsey.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I think we need to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
All right, let's make it soon. Jimmy Sangenberger joining us here,
Ryan Shuling live your thoughts five seven seven three nine.
When we come back. Donald Trump speaking to the media. Now,
I want to give you all of that to start
our number two. And Zach's doing a great job of
ligning that up so we can fire it as soon
as we get into it. But when we come back,
I got bad news and I got good news. The
bad news first. Couldn't make it work for an interview
(32:02):
with Nick Swardson. Now he's coming to Comedy Works. He's
downtown tomorrow night and he's at Comedy Works South Friday,
Saturday Sunday. Stay tuned your chance to win when we
come back. A free pair of passes for the late
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Speaker 11 (34:32):
I look like a roadie from Limp Biscuit.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 11 (34:39):
So its a fun feeling for having you a little
Rando texts find your phone buzzes You're like, okay, now
programmed registered number. So I got a text one like that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
It was like, hey, what's up.
Speaker 11 (34:53):
I'm like that, uh nothing, what's up with you? It's
fake into whoever it is. So they replied, not much.
What's your plan tonight? So I'm like, they have my
phone number? Donnas know who I am? So I go,
I'm actually drinking about La vodka right now, debating shoving
(35:14):
it up my house.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
What's your plan?
Speaker 11 (35:19):
There was a pause and they replied, oh.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
I'm just hanging out with uncle Pat. Yep, it was
my eleven year old.
Speaker 12 (35:36):
Niece's time to read jokes. Yes, we read jokes on
this show. Nick, Hey, listen, if you knows my enormous
weight game forty five pounds, I'm telling you my manager,
not my landlord. Rather, he managed to get rid of
(35:56):
two and thirty pounds of ugly fat.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
He evicted me.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Sure we all know about no i'ms astonishing weight game,
but I think it's become a bit weariosome. So let's
agree to stop having fun at his expanse.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Oh with the late great Norm MacDonald, who was one
of my all time favorites. Nick Swardson very talented comedian
and the early shows I'm looking right now. They have
been sold out for Friday and Saturday. You can still
get ticketscomedyworks dot com for the late shows on Friday
and Saturday, and there is a seven pm Sunday show.
Still tickets available there now. They run between thirty five
(36:31):
and forty five dollars. Not bad, But how would you
like to go for free? Zach just turned me down,
but we're gonna He had to go houseset or dog
set for his parents. Come on, Zach, but Nick Swartson,
you can see Friday night's late show. That's a nine
to forty five pm start. I'll be attending as well.
Christian Toto will be there, a cast of a couple
of others tbd. But all you got to do to
(36:54):
win your passes is text five seven seven three nine
with your name first and last a phone number where
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if you can answer the following He starred as the
(37:17):
roller skating Terry Bernardino on this hit comedy series What
was the name of that series? Nick Swardson starred as
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(37:39):
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He's more famous than I am.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
Bob.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Donald Trump's interaction with the media as well, when we
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