April 11, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, it's time for the weekly segment featuring Deborah Flora and Christian Toto in-studio with a conservative eye on the entertainment industry, focusing on a culture shift away from woke ideology in music, film, and television.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
William Shatner.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's hard to believe he's ninety four years old, but
he's still going strong. You know, I just interviewed Pat Boone. Wow,
he's ninety sharp as attack memory for details. I'm like,
if I can be like Pat Boone when I'm ninety,
but if I can be like Bill Shatner when I'm
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You know, two things come to mind when I hear that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Highlight, and that is Stuie Griffin doing a mockup of
that on Family Guy, which is pitch perfect, it's right
on the money. Seth MacFarlane, very funny guy. And then
two Christian pop quiz where is that?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
From that cover of Rocket Man by Elton John. To
the best of my knowledge, William Shattner recorded an album.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Maybe with Ben Folds. Is that it? I think he
had a project with him.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't well that recording. I think Ben Folds a
little bit about ten years old.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Maybe, oh that's old, okay, So in recent years, maybe
last twenty or so.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Maybe even more, he did it again.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He did a project and a music project.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I thought it was with Ben Folds.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well this actually he was introduced by Bernie Tappin, who
is the songwriter for Elton, John Elton to write the lyrics,
Bernie writes the music, or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Y Bernie writes the lyrics, Elton writes the music. My
mistake there.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But Bernie introduced William Shatner at the nineteen seventy eight
Science Film Awards, and that's what that performance was from.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
My gosh, that's great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Debor and I were talking off air, and one of
the things that's so magical about Shatner is that I
think at some point in his life and career he
started to laugh at himself.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He didn't take himself seriously, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Think that was maybe transformative for him because he's been
still he's still in the pop culture landscape and he's
still revered, and I don't think his star has dimmed.
But I think it's just that ability to kind of
acknowledge that he can have a kitchy.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Side without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
But I'd say I've rewatched some of the old Star
Trek episodes. He's just flat out great in them, Like
he found the perfect balance between the swagger in the
intellect and the bravery and a little bit of sexual
chemistry with the various aliens he was noodling with. I mean,
it's a really good performance, and I think we dismiss it.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
And I think what's interesting about that absolutely is that
his ability to look at himself and realize what pop
culture phenomenon really was. I mean, whether there is the
Galaxy Quest where they absolutely you know, make the jokes
about you know, had to get your shirt off, you know,
I mean, it was all the jokes about the early
Star Trek days. And then in addition, you know, there
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is that homage that one moment in the New Star
Trek series where it was rebooted, where at a certain
point in time, Chris Pine walks in, he walks on
to the deck and he does that head turn all
of a sudden, and it's an homage. And that ability
to laugh at yourself, to not take yourself too seriously
something that's so lost in our culture today. I think
it's phenomenal. By the way, I have to make one
(02:56):
comment about you mentioned Pat Boone and his memory. Yeah,
we know Pat Boom because it was part of the
underground conservative organization Friends of Abe and his memory was
so good. Once a year he would go on national
news and talk about FOA and name names that were
like that's by club.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You don't talk about. It's a great memory.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He knows everybody that was there.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Settled down, he's up, you know Gary Sonise is it
a but he's kind of quiet too. Great guy devera
floor is the voice you hear in Christian Toto as well.
On the right side of Hollywood and where we're talking
about William Shatner very much alive. I don't want to
learn or anybody he's coming to Comic Con here, right?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Did we talk about that Christian in Denver? I thought
I had read that.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't want to be fake news.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
But if somebody out there is really nerdy, like nerdier
than we are, and we're pretty nerdy, please.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Correct me on that. Actually we're very nerdy.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But we bring it up because of an article that
Christian Toto wrote, an observation that he made about William Shatner.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And he's ninety four. Keep this in mind, my dad
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Has no idea how to use ax slash t He's
seventeen years younger than Bill Shatner.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But William Shanner runs his own account.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
As Christian points out in his article, you can tell
it's in his voice, kind of his manner, isn't how
he expresses himself and what he is coming? Oh, Zach, Okay,
all right, Zach, it is confirmed. Yeah, Zach is this
July five.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Wow, Zach's nerdier than we are.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
He came out confessed he is outed himself as the
nerd of all nerds in this quadrant. But one of
the things that you've talked about in this article, and
I want to play for the people out there, just
for no other reason than nostalgia. The opening to Star Trek,
the original series intro and what you notice about it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Space the final front You. These are the voyages of
the starship.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Enterprise, It's five year mission to explore strange new worlds,
to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly
go where no man has gone before?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Debora, Are you insulted that he used the phrase to
boldally go where no man has gone before?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
You know, it's so interesting to me. There's an entire
subculture that their twenty four to seven job is to
be offended for other people. I am so not offended.
I consider myself to be a part of mankind, humankind,
and so the fact that he said no man has
gone before. They changed it later to no one has
gone before, but absolutely not offended in any way, shape
(05:44):
or form.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The title of Christian's article, William Shatner shreds woke mob
erasing history. Now we know looking back that George Takai
obviously is a lefty, far left. Not so sure about
Leonard Nimoy. I believe he was probably of the left.
And I don't know about William Shatner other than maybe
he's not that not far left, he's I don't think
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he's a conservative by any means.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But what you make.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of him kind of going public and he's ninety four,
His legacy's intact and cemented, so he can kind of
give zero ops and say whatever he wants. What did
he say?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, he said he talked about he called the presentism,
which is not a term that's in the I mean,
it's not a commonly used term, but I'm sure it's
out there. I'm not super familiar with it, but basically
saying he was disparaging those who are trying to erase history,
about tearing down statues, about you know, taking Laura Laura
Wilding Ingle.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, yeah, little house.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I think her name was removed from a library because
some of the passages from some of her works were
deemed problematic. I mean, it's just that kind of stuff.
And I think he listened with age can come wisdom,
and I think he realizes he could look at the
landscape and see what's going on and say those things
are wrong and that Listen, we don't celebrate slavery. It
was a horrible thing, but we also don't erase history
(07:00):
and don't pretend that we have perfected everything in our
world now so we're much smarter, much brighter, more and
more wise than people were in the past. That's a
really dangerous attitude. And you know, post George Floyd, that's
the world we lived in for quite some time. It's fading.
But you know, very few people of his caliber would
call it out.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
But he's doing just.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That, Yeah, he is, and he's doing it well. And
whether it's you know, he's talking about presentism or presentism
being judging the past by the guidelines of the present,
and that's hubris. I mean, it's this entire attack on
our founding fathers that haven't forbid many of them had
slaves at the time. They dared to say something so
revolutionary as all men are created equal. When you take
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that out of its time period and judge it by
the hupers of today, everyone on the entire planet, including
those living in Africa, had slaves in that day. So
I appreciate him calling that out. You know, he talks
about Laura Ingles Wilder. They took away an award that
was given in to children's authors and renamed it the
(08:03):
Children's Author Awards, something so generic it means nothing anymore.
Because she in her book written by the way, at
a time period where you did talk about you know,
Indians versus the white man who came across and you differentiated.
But what they missed was that she talked about them
in a very noble way. They were presented well in
(08:24):
the book. Same thing as To Kill a Mockingbirder or
Mark Twain's books, because they dare to use a word
that was in that time period to call people of
another race, you know, a certain word, go Jim, yeah, exactly, you.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Know, there you go.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Like to Kill a Mockingbird is one of the most
anti racist books, but is being banned because it dared
to use a word that was used in.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That Jay who was it being banned by Deborah.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They're saying Republicans, we're the ones that are banning all
the books here, Yeah, the homo erotic pornographic books for kindergarteners.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
In elementary school exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Gavin Newsome famously there was a shot of this on
X on his own feed where he was reading I
think it was To Kill the Mockingbirds the stack of books.
That was one of them, and I think Huckleberry Finn
might have been another. Hello, yes, you you are canceling
those two books for the reasons you.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just stated, And how do we learn from history? Wouldn't
it be much better to let young adults read these
books and see, oh gosh, that was a terrible thing
that was happening in the period of To Kill a
Mockingbird and someone dare to stand up against it. And oh,
by the way, this one word that they use, we
don't use this anymore. And here's why that's learning, right.
(09:33):
You know, when you cancel a history, you can't learn
from it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now you used a word hubris, which in the past
would have definitely applied to William Shatton.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Talk about learning.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I want this to be a very instructive experience for
my man Zach Seegers on the other side of the
glass here, and I just want you to put yourself
Zach in the young man's shoes.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Who you hear?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Who is trying to record a promo for William Shatner.
You may be familiar with this audio. Howard Stern Highlight
did it some years ago. This is classic William Shatner.
I just got to get the audience a flavor of this,
or we could have absolute silence.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's golden.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh it's on YouTube and I don't know that the
sound card is connected anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's so sad. That's so sad to me.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Your impersonation all I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Go ahead and carry on for a moment. I think
I have a workaround for this.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
But yeah, and I do think presentism is an interesting
way to look at it. And honestly, why do we
get to that point of judgment because young people to
day are not being taught history.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I'm just watching now. I know it's been a popular
for a little while. Hacks, the Max HBO series, and
there's an older actress played by Oh gosh, I'm having anyway,
It's about a young about a younger person.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Who's writing jokes for an older comedian, and.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The younger person is such a perfect embodiment of gen
Z and she's offended by everything, and she finds flaws
at this. And they mentioned master bedroom in one episode.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
She's like, Oh, you can't use that word anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I mean the same character is can be mean, can
be hurt, can be vicious, can be condescending, is constantly condescending,
is not doesn't have the sense of self that you'd
like to have in a younger person. And she's so
deeply flawed, but she projects this I'm caring, I'm wonderful,
(11:25):
I'm evolved, I'm bright. It's a really fascinating portrait that generation,
for better and for worse.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Well. And what I find interesting is there words you're
not allowed to say, and then there's words that they push,
like like Latin X. You know they were doing that
because they were like, oh, I'm offended for the Hispanic
community or the Latin community that you're either you have
a feminine or a masculine pronoun or ending to a word.
(11:52):
And you know who wasn't offended by that? The Hispanic
in the Latin community, they were offended by forcing on
them a woke term. And then I I just went
to the World War Two Museum yesterday. I was in
New Orleans, and I think about words that get overuse
and lose their meaning. It ends with this very moving
reason for that war, which was the Holocaust. And you know,
(12:12):
I think about how we've talked about this with Elon
mess People overuse the word Nazi.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
When you use that word too much, it is a discredit.
It absolutely trivializes the reality of true evil. So we
got to reclaim our language overall.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Completely agree.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
There's a Babylon Bee's little fake story and it says
real life Nazis upset that he can't be heard over
the din of other Nazis.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Set of your kids to that with your boy.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Beautiful satire because it's funny and it has as a
really important point to me.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yes it does.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, Zach's got my safety net here on his side.
We'll get this audio that was talking about the production
studio with William Shatner right now.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listen
very closely. You'll be amazed at what you hear. Okay,
can there be a little more excitement in the beginning?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I love it?
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Okay, all right, it sounded like really laid you'll really well, uh,
I'm I'm uh I'm saying uh, okay, I'll try and
do that.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
Too.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So take the next few.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Minutes and listened very closely.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Well, uh, speak up, and maybe you better do it.
Do it the way you hear it television. Do it
for me, No, I mean, just go ahead.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listen
very closely. You'll be amazed.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Is that the way you'd like me to do it?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'll do it that way.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Ready, This is William Shafner, and I would like to
invite you take a journey with me into the twenty
first century.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So take the.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Next few minutes and listen very closely. You'll be amazed
at what you hear. Okay, I think that came pretty close. No,
I'm doing no, No I was. I believe that you
asked that was about the way you did it. I
wasn't jesting.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
No, No, I insist. Now what I want you to
do is on pay.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
Is that a satisfactory to you? No, because if your
mouth were open, you go to pop some pills in them.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
So do the next paragraph form so I can get
on idea of how you want it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
This is page two.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, I really don't want to. I think I'm a
bad punch. Better, No, I don't think I do.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
If you read.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The second paragraph so I can have where.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
That reminds me. There's this famous story. Whether it is
true or not, I don't know, but it's worth telling.
So there's a famous scene in uh the Greatest Story
ever told. Ceeesy'll be Demils directing it. I believe this
is that's the director of that one. But uh, John
Wayne was cast as Longinitis, who is the centurion up
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on the top and he looks up at Dan and
gives a line surely this must have been the son
of God. And the director said to him, can you
put more? Awe into it, and legend says, because when
you listen to he goes, ah, can't you see? This
must have been the son of God?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Kind of like that moment.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Don't tell John Wayne or will you shouting her how
to do their jobs?
Speaker 10 (15:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And that was the trap and the producer had stepped up. No, No,
I want you to tell me how you want me
to read this? You're the expert.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean, Bill was just he was not letting him
off the hook.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Christian.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Here's alexas she texts, and you can do so as well.
Five seven seven, three nine Love Boston Legal with William
Shatner and James Spader.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
What a pairing then, was?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Denny Crane right, Denny, Yes, Denny Crane absolutely as Jeane.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Smart I forgot her name at a brain Chris, Oh yes, yeah, who's.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Quite who's so good in the show?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Got you so?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean kind of putting a fine point on this,
Christian where William Shatner has spoken up, but you know
he's ninety four. People are gonna kind of look at
him maybe the same way that they did Richard dryfists.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Who's you know, Boomer.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's aging out like, oh you know, what do you know, Boomer,
But I don't know. There's something about William Shatner that's
that kind of it resonates. It's timeless. People look at him,
I think, with respect and reverence, but will just smooth
the needle at all? Are people moving away from the
kind of the woke same old, same old.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yea in a minor way.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Listen, what he did alone doesn't move the need The
fact that he said it is important. The fact that
he was okay with saying it, I think that does matter.
I think there was a mild blowback for him on
Twitter x and he didn't seem to care. No.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
But you know, time is passing.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You know, people have it's not my turn. But people
said that we went through a moral panic. I think
it's a really accurate way to describe what happened in
twenty twenty. In the last few years, it was a
genuine moral panic, and I think we're just kind of
shaking our heads and coming out of that. That moment
in time, it was a terrible moment. I mean, they
were banning episodes, they were canceling comedians. I remember it
(17:39):
quite well. I mean I talked to comedians, said yeah,
I put out a joke on social media, and they
got banned, It got censored, it got taken down. I
got this. It wasn't gross, it wasn't dirty, It wasn't this,
it wasn't that. It just was deemed inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah, and I think it's just one more voice. The
more people speak the truth, the more you get to
a tipping point and.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Speaking of truth. Thank you for the said way there,
Deborah Flora.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
We're so welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
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Speaker 11 (18:21):
Socialist Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortes responded flying first class to
a Bernie Sanders rally last month, sparking criticism over what
summer calling political hypocrisy. A passenger snapped a photo of
the New York congresswoman seated in Jet Blue's first class
cabin on flight five to eleven from JFK to Las
Vegas on March nineteenth, the day before she took the
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stage at a fighting Oligarchy event with Senator Bernie Sanders.
The flyer who took the photo claimed AOC ignored comments
from voters and quipped that she's fighting the system, one
first class mimosa at a time. According to Jet Blue's website,
a first class seat on that route costs upward of
eleven dollars. The critics slams of the congresswoman's luxury travel choice,
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noting her vocal so appoint for climate change action and
income equality. AOC's office declined to comment, of course. At
the rallies in North Las Vegas and Arizona State University,
Ocasio Cortez urged Democrats to fight for the working class
and criticized her own party for failing to stand up
to Republicans.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, when it's other people's money, you fly for his class.
That's the message from AOC there, and she wasn't done
leading off our Friday fool. The weak nominees listen to
this closely and try to decipher if it makes any sense.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
Trump seems to be doing, you know, from tweeting people
to buystock and then later announcing his development on taxes.
If people are pissed about insider trading here at the House.
Look at what's happening at the White House right now
and with the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do you think he knew what he was doing when
he sent out that message of bell stocks before he
made the announcement.
Speaker 12 (19:57):
It sure seemed like he did. I don't think that
it was a coincidence. I don't think that Trump just
coincidentally said buy stocks and then shortly later made an
announcement that dramatically inflated and dramatically raised a lot of
these asset prices.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
My brain hurts.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
So this is the woman who leads apparently Chuck Schumer
by like twenty points in a recent poll from a
potential primary challenge, and she's telling us, Deborah, that it's
insider trading when the President puts out on true social
for the world to see out in the public sphere,
it's a good time to buy stocks. But yet that's
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insider trading. When hours later he announces that he's putting
a pause on the tariffs.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Oh, it is so crazy. I mean, what I think
is interesting what we're watching. Why is there such a
vitriolic attack on Elon Musk right now because he is
starting to expose the worst insider trading that has been
going on, and want Hinton DC with your and my
tax dollars. Now I acknowledge up front that's not just
(21:05):
one side of the aisle, but one of one of
the worst perpetrators of this. Nancy Pelosi, at the height
of her congressional career, probably made you know, somewhere in
the two hundred thousand dollars ranges, Speaker of the House,
her husband is worth over two hundred million dollars right now.
And by the way, members of Congress only have to
(21:26):
report their own income and holdings, not their spouses. So
maybe you know AOC is a little upset because I
don't think she's married, so she can't hide all of
her insider trading. You know, find someone else. But it
is crazy. First of all, you're right, it's not inside
trading when it is out for the entire world to see.
And number two, if you're really against it, then you
would be all over what DOJE is doing right now
(21:48):
to expose it?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Pretty strong leadoff hitter right there, Christian up to be
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'd like to have one journalist say with you just said, Debra,
just one is it insider trading when he tells the world, I.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Mean, that's out our trade.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Journalistic question. And you know if you lined up a
thousand journalists, not one would ask her.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, nowminy number two, we've got Chris Matthews husk the hardball,
MSNB safe and canceled back.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Where are we going to get the wood? If not
for Canada?
Speaker 13 (22:19):
I watched them in the evening news last night, one
of the other networks, and I watched the issue of lumber. Now,
you see, we get so much of our lumber are
two by fours from from Canada?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What's where we get it from Canada?
Speaker 13 (22:31):
We got our newsprint from up different newspapers. The fact
is we get it.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What are we going to do have more lumber made
in the United States?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Now?
Speaker 13 (22:37):
What is our plan?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Now?
Speaker 13 (22:39):
Oh, we're not going to import wood, so we're going
to make more wood.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
We're going to create more wood.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't think we are.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
In a position to simply replicate the imports coming into
this country with our own products.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They can't always be done.
Speaker 13 (22:52):
And I think if a woods example of that wood,
are we going to make more wood in this country
because of our trade deal.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Christian would grow on trees away.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yes, has he ever been where wood is made?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Or created? As he terms it?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Right there, Chris Matthews our second nominee.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
For our Fool of the Week.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Now, Deborah, I did a little research, didn't take much,
just Google search. Do you know who the number one
source of wood imports for Canada is?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's the United States?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Of course it is, you know it. First of all,
this is the ultimate hubris that's that we're using today
for someone like Chris Matthews thinks that human beings even
create wood. That's God. It's called a tree, and we
have plenty of them here. And by the way, it
has been the side that he is representing that has
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kept us from utilizing our resources. Now, I love nature.
I do not want to get rid of forest, but
when we actually steward our resources, America is the richest
country on the entire planet. Let us steward our resources
ar trees. That know, Chris Matthews, you did not make
We do not need to make more. We just need
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to manage them well. And by the way, you know
how we manage them well. We take better care of
our forests. There you go, they're burning down, because would
they no longer allow us to manage them?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You got to clear them out, Christen, he told that
to gather, you got to clear.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Out of the brush. Oh boys, anyone in the set
of MSNBC like doing the cut sign or whispering in
his ear or saying wait a minute, waving behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He's the guy that blows right through those kind of
stop sides. Anyway, I would say what I want to say.
Here's Anderson Cooper. Now he is kind of the fool
by proxy here and you know right where I'm going, Christian,
because it doesn't just stand up to this obvious idiocy.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
After a large Cantown hall or vapper. Senator Bernie Sanders,
I want to introduce Grace Thomas.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He's a local civil rights attorney. She's a Democrat.
Speaker 14 (24:57):
Right, actually, thank you, pevene, Senator Sanders. Pulling and turnout
data indicate that men of all racial demographics are turning
away from the Democratic Party. But of course, white men
in particular do not feel that the DNC's messaging targets
them and the issues that they care about. Should progressive
campaigns craft policies and messaging to better encapsulate these voters.
(25:20):
And if the answer is yes, how do they do
so without abandoning marginalized voters of color and gender.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Speaking as a white man, because I am one, here's
the problem. They them when you are obviously, if you
saw the video for this, this is a white woman.
There is nothing about her that's they them, that's he him,
that's masculine male.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
This is a woman. She's a white woman.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
If you want to get white men back, guess what
white men aren't really crazy about when somebody like you,
corrects Anderson Cooper, who honestly came by and he sees
a woman. Oh no, it's they them outa here with
that nonsense, You're never gonna win white men back over
to the Democratic Party for that reason alone.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Christian Adam Carolla famously says the reason why they use
them is because they want to correct you during the
process and kind of lord over you and make sure
that you're you're not stepping over them. They're kind of
they kind of it's.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
A power swipe.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's a power move, exactly. It's absurd, and you want
to I mean, she really just answered her own question
with bad day them.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I mean she could just stopped.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Excuse me, it's stay them and oh I'll retreat.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Have you ever been Anderson Cooper the poor guy here?
And if so, how would you respond to that?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I would say, can you get to the question as
quickly through? Because that the person who got up there
obviously just went on and on and on it. And
by the way, I would have liked to have gotten
to Bernie Sanders, because, by the way, he's the socialist that,
when asked to define socialism at one point in time,
said he couldn't really do that.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Berwin Bill Maher asked him, I mean you don't. He
was asking the difference, So what was it? Inequality?
Speaker 14 (26:55):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And you described the two equality like, oh, so you're
not for And if you would have seen Bernie's face
and this woman they them Anderson Cooper's like what it
was totally confusing.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Let's take a step back. So in her daily life,
if she wants to correct the people, she will be
correcting people all day long at the deli counter, out
of the bank, at the cocktail party.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You want that person at your cocktail party. Well, if
even if you're a lefty, you want that person in
your cock. Actually it's they them. No, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But also there are times where people make a mistake
and you kind of go with the foe. You don't
stop things cold to say no, wait it's X. You
kind of just go with it. You know that he meant.
He meant to address her in a professional, responsible way. Yeah,
you don't jump in and jump well.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
And I think you guys hit the nail on the head.
It is everybody who is in this this particular subset
of our culture wanting to be able to correct others.
I have been with people who are transgender, and I
just speak directly to them. I don't there's no reason
for me to use a pronoun when I'm talking directly
to somebody. I don't say Ryan, I'm asking the question,
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and they will then scold me for not actively using
their pronouns. I'm like, I'm talking to you. This is
obviously not what your issue is in some way, try
to cast dispersion on another human being period, to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Take control and power of a conversation by force. And
that's what happened right there, Tory Anderson Cooper. But he's
a nominee. I'm sorry he needed a step. I don't
think so he would have been awesome and we all
have good for you. But anyway, we move on, sunny hauston.
She's at it again. She was fool of the Year
last year and then that title was not easily won.
But she's on her way with another comment like this one.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Don't have cars, don't have driver's licenses, so it's it's
sort of a vestige of I think, post slavery laws
where they where black people had to prove their right
to vote, and oftentimes they couldn't vote because they couldn't
pass some crazy to or they didn't have the appropriate ID.
It also affects women, women that are married. Maybe one
(29:06):
your passport reflects something that's different on your on your
ver certificate or on your driver's license. So really the
bottom line is voter suppression. And I agree with him
one hundred percent. It's a brilliant notion that less voter
ID laws allows more people to vote, and most democracies
do it that way. We're the only ones that really don't.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, First of all, less less voter ID laws mean
more people vote. Yeah, more people who shouldn't be voting
are voting now. Deborah yes, you are a married woman.
I am, and I go Jonathan's last name.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yes, I did name. Oh it was so hard to say.
It was German and as Spellos. So when I when
I got to marry Flora, I'm like, I am Senora Debora,
Flora from Aurora, and I am running with ads.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
From now on.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
But to her point, is it difficult for you to
vote because you took your husband's last name.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
No? No, because either way, I'm happy to I prove
that I'm a citizen of the United States, of which
I'm very proud of, and therefore I have a right
to elect the leaders of the country of which I
am as citizen. Well, this is such an absurd gas
lighting argument, and I find it as a woman to
be quite insulting. I remember, you know, one time being
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told because I'm a conservative woman, I don't think for myself,
my husband thinks for me at miss tail. Oh my gosh,
just ask my husband, and I'm going to let you
know that is absolutely not the case. We are equal
and amazing partners and all that we do. I just
think it's absurd when you cannot make a point, you
get into circular nonsensical reasoning. Anyone who wants their vote
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to count wants voter ID, which most were republic Let's
just make that clearer, but most voting democracies throughout the
world do that. Why the citizens should select their own
leaders period.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
A US citizen should get one and only one vote,
and every US citizen should be able to vote. No
one who's not a US citizen should be able to vote.
That was the founders and why they set it up
the way that they did. Christian this issue was just
a ballot measure. In Wisconsin, they elected on the same
ballot a liberal justice to their states Supreme Court. All
counties but two Madison, where a bunch of commedies are
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University of Wisconsin in Dane County. There and Milwaukee barely
fifty one to forty nine voted against it. Every other
county in Wisconsin, a purple state, voted for voter ID
in order to participate in elections.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
This is another one of those eighty twenty issues.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It seems like that the Democrats are dedicated to die
on the hill of the twenty side.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's just thinking at what a hill to die on?
What a fight you need to kind of declare, I
just can't imagine it. And again she's on a nationwide
talk show. She has so much power and so much
cloud and touch a microphone before her, and this is
what she does.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
It is absurd.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And again no one around her just gives her a
little tali and says, you know, Sonny, what are you
doing here? And it's so connestant. And it used to
be just about black peace. People can't figure this out,
which is so humiliating, condescending. Now she's expanded to women. Yes,
like it's nineteen twenty five or something.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Gosh, you just hit. The last thing I wanted to
say about this is it is so insulting. It is
such reverse racism, reverse sexism to say, oh, if you
are a minority, or you are a female and have
certain chromosomes, you can't figure out how to get an ID,
you can't figure out how to register to vote. That's
insulting and it's time to call it out.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Those are our nominees for a Friday Fool of the Week,
once again, aoc A double dip. Chris Matthews doesn't know
where what comes from. Anderson Cooper gets stood up by
a they them Sonny Houston, claiming voter ID laws are
a vestage of post slavery laws, and they discriminate against
married women like Deborah Flora.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh my, Borah Flora.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
I'm so grateful she's speaking for me.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
A break and we're back. I'll have a portion of
the trailer from the King of Kings that's opening. I
think it's this weekend, the head of Easter Animated feature
and Christian will have the.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Latest after this.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And that is from the King of King's official trailer
in theaters today April eleventh. Angels Studio some very big
names in this. Pierce Brosnan is Ponscious Pilot, Oscar Isaac
is Jesus Kindeth Branna is, Charles Dickens the lead kind
of modern human in the film. Uma Thurmond is in this,
and shockingly not just Ben Kingsley. Mark Hamill is in this.
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Christian how well.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You know, he's a very good voice actor for one,
and he wants a gig.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
That's two.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
But you know what's interesting here this is Angel Studios.
They were essentially an upstart movie studio. They started with
The Chosen. They don't have The Chosen anymore officially, but
they're new, they're young, and they're not faith based. They
say that they want to amplify light is the way
they can have phrase it. So it's upbeat, it's positive,
it's as inspirational. But this kind of a project I
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think ten years ago, maybe even five years ago, wouldn't
attract these I don't think.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I think maybe scared of it.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
This is a new studio.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
We're wait.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You know, Debora, we were talking about this. When you
see someone like Mark Hamill who's not drawn to it
necessarily because of a belief system, where some of the others.
But you have a list actors across the board. It's
also like House of David. Amazon has actually produced this
which is very faith based. It's accurate. I think they
understand the market is huge and the need is great, and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
This is out just in time for Easter.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It opens today and theaters everywhere, including right here in
the Metro Denver area. Deborah, Flora, Christian Total, thank you
as always, have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Great to be here, Total, I'll see you tonight for
Nick Swardson. Yes, time out. We're back with more after
this on Ryan Schruling Live.
William Shatner.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's hard to believe he's ninety four years old, but
he's still going strong. You know, I just interviewed Pat Boone. Wow,
he's ninety sharp as attack memory for details. I'm like,
if I can be like Pat Boone when I'm ninety,
but if I can be like Bill Shatner when I'm
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You know, two things come to mind when I hear that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Highlight, and that is Stuie Griffin doing a mockup of
that on Family Guy, which is pitch perfect, it's right
on the money. Seth MacFarlane, very funny guy. And then
two Christian pop quiz where is that?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
From that cover of Rocket Man by Elton John. To
the best of my knowledge, William Shattner recorded an album.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Maybe with Ben Folds. Is that it? I think he
had a project with him.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't well that recording. I think Ben Folds a
little bit about ten years old.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Maybe, oh that's old, okay, So in recent years, maybe
last twenty or so.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Maybe even more, he did it again.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He did a project and a music project.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I thought it was with Ben Folds.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well this actually he was introduced by Bernie Tappin, who
is the songwriter for Elton, John Elton to write the lyrics,
Bernie writes the music, or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Y Bernie writes the lyrics, Elton writes the music. My
mistake there.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But Bernie introduced William Shatner at the nineteen seventy eight
Science Film Awards, and that's what that performance was from.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
My gosh, that's great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Debor and I were talking off air, and one of
the things that's so magical about Shatner is that I
think at some point in his life and career he
started to laugh at himself.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He didn't take himself seriously, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Think that was maybe transformative for him because he's been
still he's still in the pop culture landscape and he's
still revered, and I don't think his star has dimmed.
But I think it's just that ability to kind of
acknowledge that he can have a kitchy.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Side without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
But I'd say I've rewatched some of the old Star
Trek episodes. He's just flat out great in them, Like
he found the perfect balance between the swagger in the
intellect and the bravery and a little bit of sexual
chemistry with the various aliens he was noodling with. I mean,
it's a really good performance, and I think we dismiss it.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
And I think what's interesting about that absolutely is that
his ability to look at himself and realize what pop
culture phenomenon really was. I mean, whether there is the
Galaxy Quest where they absolutely you know, make the jokes
about you know, had to get your shirt off, you know,
I mean, it was all the jokes about the early
Star Trek days. And then in addition, you know, there
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is that homage that one moment in the New Star
Trek series where it was rebooted, where at a certain
point in time, Chris Pine walks in, he walks on
to the deck and he does that head turn all
of a sudden, and it's an homage. And that ability
to laugh at yourself, to not take yourself too seriously
something that's so lost in our culture today. I think
it's phenomenal. By the way, I have to make one
(02:56):
comment about you mentioned Pat Boone and his memory. Yeah,
we know Pat Boom because it was part of the
underground conservative organization Friends of Abe and his memory was
so good. Once a year he would go on national
news and talk about FOA and name names that were
like that's by club.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You don't talk about. It's a great memory.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He knows everybody that was there.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Settled down, he's up, you know Gary Sonise is it
a but he's kind of quiet too. Great guy devera
floor is the voice you hear in Christian Toto as well.
On the right side of Hollywood and where we're talking
about William Shatner very much alive. I don't want to
learn or anybody he's coming to Comic Con here, right?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Did we talk about that Christian in Denver? I thought
I had read that.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't want to be fake news.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
But if somebody out there is really nerdy, like nerdier
than we are, and we're pretty nerdy, please.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Correct me on that. Actually we're very nerdy.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But we bring it up because of an article that
Christian Toto wrote, an observation that he made about William Shatner.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And he's ninety four. Keep this in mind, my dad
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Has no idea how to use ax slash t He's
seventeen years younger than Bill Shatner.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But William Shanner runs his own account.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
As Christian points out in his article, you can tell
it's in his voice, kind of his manner, isn't how
he expresses himself and what he is coming? Oh, Zach, Okay,
all right, Zach, it is confirmed. Yeah, Zach is this
July five.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Wow, Zach's nerdier than we are.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
He came out confessed he is outed himself as the
nerd of all nerds in this quadrant. But one of
the things that you've talked about in this article, and
I want to play for the people out there, just
for no other reason than nostalgia. The opening to Star Trek,
the original series intro and what you notice about it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Space the final front You. These are the voyages of
the starship.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Enterprise, It's five year mission to explore strange new worlds,
to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly
go where no man has gone before?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Debora, Are you insulted that he used the phrase to
boldally go where no man has gone before?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
You know, it's so interesting to me. There's an entire
subculture that their twenty four to seven job is to
be offended for other people. I am so not offended.
I consider myself to be a part of mankind, humankind,
and so the fact that he said no man has
gone before. They changed it later to no one has
gone before, but absolutely not offended in any way, shape
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or form.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The title of Christian's article, William Shatner shreds woke mob
erasing history. Now we know looking back that George Takai
obviously is a lefty, far left. Not so sure about
Leonard Nimoy. I believe he was probably of the left.
And I don't know about William Shatner other than maybe
he's not that not far left, he's I don't think
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he's a conservative by any means.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But what you make.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of him kind of going public and he's ninety four,
His legacy's intact and cemented, so he can kind of
give zero ops and say whatever he wants. What did
he say?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, he said he talked about he called the presentism,
which is not a term that's in the I mean,
it's not a commonly used term, but I'm sure it's
out there. I'm not super familiar with it, but basically
saying he was disparaging those who are trying to erase history,
about tearing down statues, about you know, taking Laura Laura
Wilding Ingle.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, yeah, little house.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I think her name was removed from a library because
some of the passages from some of her works were
deemed problematic. I mean, it's just that kind of stuff.
And I think he listened with age can come wisdom,
and I think he realizes he could look at the
landscape and see what's going on and say those things
are wrong and that Listen, we don't celebrate slavery. It
was a horrible thing, but we also don't erase history
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and don't pretend that we have perfected everything in our
world now so we're much smarter, much brighter, more and
more wise than people were in the past. That's a
really dangerous attitude. And you know, post George Floyd, that's
the world we lived in for quite some time. It's fading.
But you know, very few people of his caliber would
call it out.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
But he's doing just.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That, Yeah, he is, and he's doing it well. And
whether it's you know, he's talking about presentism or presentism
being judging the past by the guidelines of the present,
and that's hubris. I mean, it's this entire attack on
our founding fathers that haven't forbid many of them had
slaves at the time. They dared to say something so
revolutionary as all men are created equal. When you take
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that out of its time period and judge it by
the hupers of today, everyone on the entire planet, including
those living in Africa, had slaves in that day. So
I appreciate him calling that out. You know, he talks
about Laura Ingles Wilder. They took away an award that
was given in to children's authors and renamed it the
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Children's Author Awards, something so generic it means nothing anymore.
Because she in her book written by the way, at
a time period where you did talk about you know,
Indians versus the white man who came across and you differentiated.
But what they missed was that she talked about them
in a very noble way. They were presented well in
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the book. Same thing as To Kill a Mockingbirder or
Mark Twain's books, because they dare to use a word
that was in that time period to call people of
another race, you know, a certain word, go Jim, yeah, exactly, you.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Know, there you go.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Like to Kill a Mockingbird is one of the most
anti racist books, but is being banned because it dared
to use a word that was used in.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That Jay who was it being banned by Deborah.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They're saying Republicans, we're the ones that are banning all
the books here, Yeah, the homo erotic pornographic books for kindergarteners.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
In elementary school exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Gavin Newsome famously there was a shot of this on
X on his own feed where he was reading I
think it was To Kill the Mockingbirds the stack of books.
That was one of them, and I think Huckleberry Finn
might have been another. Hello, yes, you you are canceling
those two books for the reasons you.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just stated, And how do we learn from history? Wouldn't
it be much better to let young adults read these
books and see, oh gosh, that was a terrible thing
that was happening in the period of To Kill a
Mockingbird and someone dare to stand up against it. And oh,
by the way, this one word that they use, we
don't use this anymore. And here's why that's learning, right.
(09:33):
You know, when you cancel a history, you can't learn
from it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now you used a word hubris, which in the past
would have definitely applied to William Shatton.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Talk about learning.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I want this to be a very instructive experience for
my man Zach Seegers on the other side of the
glass here, and I just want you to put yourself
Zach in the young man's shoes.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Who you hear?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Who is trying to record a promo for William Shatner.
You may be familiar with this audio. Howard Stern Highlight
did it some years ago. This is classic William Shatner.
I just got to get the audience a flavor of this,
or we could have absolute silence.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's golden.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh it's on YouTube and I don't know that the
sound card is connected anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's so sad. That's so sad to me.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Your impersonation all I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Go ahead and carry on for a moment. I think
I have a workaround for this.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
But yeah, and I do think presentism is an interesting
way to look at it. And honestly, why do we
get to that point of judgment because young people to
day are not being taught history.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I'm just watching now. I know it's been a popular
for a little while. Hacks, the Max HBO series, and
there's an older actress played by Oh gosh, I'm having anyway,
It's about a young about a younger person.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Who's writing jokes for an older comedian, and.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The younger person is such a perfect embodiment of gen
Z and she's offended by everything, and she finds flaws
at this. And they mentioned master bedroom in one episode.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
She's like, Oh, you can't use that word anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I mean the same character is can be mean, can
be hurt, can be vicious, can be condescending, is constantly condescending,
is not doesn't have the sense of self that you'd
like to have in a younger person. And she's so
deeply flawed, but she projects this I'm caring, I'm wonderful,
(11:25):
I'm evolved, I'm bright. It's a really fascinating portrait that generation,
for better and for worse.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Well. And what I find interesting is there words you're
not allowed to say, and then there's words that they push,
like like Latin X. You know they were doing that
because they were like, oh, I'm offended for the Hispanic
community or the Latin community that you're either you have
a feminine or a masculine pronoun or ending to a word.
(11:52):
And you know who wasn't offended by that? The Hispanic
in the Latin community, they were offended by forcing on
them a woke term. And then I I just went
to the World War Two Museum yesterday. I was in
New Orleans, and I think about words that get overuse
and lose their meaning. It ends with this very moving
reason for that war, which was the Holocaust. And you know,
(12:12):
I think about how we've talked about this with Elon
mess People overuse the word Nazi.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
When you use that word too much, it is a discredit.
It absolutely trivializes the reality of true evil. So we
got to reclaim our language overall.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Completely agree.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
There's a Babylon Bee's little fake story and it says
real life Nazis upset that he can't be heard over
the din of other Nazis.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Set of your kids to that with your boy.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Beautiful satire because it's funny and it has as a
really important point to me.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yes it does.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, Zach's got my safety net here on his side.
We'll get this audio that was talking about the production
studio with William Shatner right now.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listen
very closely. You'll be amazed at what you hear. Okay,
can there be a little more excitement in the beginning?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I love it?
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Okay, all right, it sounded like really laid you'll really well, uh,
I'm I'm uh I'm saying uh, okay, I'll try and
do that.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
Too.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So take the next few.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Minutes and listened very closely.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Well, uh, speak up, and maybe you better do it.
Do it the way you hear it television. Do it
for me, No, I mean, just go ahead.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite
you to take a journey with me into the twenty
first century. So take the next few minutes and listen
very closely. You'll be amazed.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Is that the way you'd like me to do it?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'll do it that way.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Ready, This is William Shafner, and I would like to
invite you take a journey with me into the twenty
first century.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So take the.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Next few minutes and listen very closely. You'll be amazed
at what you hear. Okay, I think that came pretty close. No,
I'm doing no, No I was. I believe that you
asked that was about the way you did it. I
wasn't jesting.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
No, No, I insist. Now what I want you to
do is on pay.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
Is that a satisfactory to you? No, because if your
mouth were open, you go to pop some pills in them.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
So do the next paragraph form so I can get
on idea of how you want it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
This is page two.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, I really don't want to. I think I'm a
bad punch. Better, No, I don't think I do.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
If you read.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The second paragraph so I can have where.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
That reminds me. There's this famous story. Whether it is
true or not, I don't know, but it's worth telling.
So there's a famous scene in uh the Greatest Story
ever told. Ceeesy'll be Demils directing it. I believe this
is that's the director of that one. But uh, John
Wayne was cast as Longinitis, who is the centurion up
(15:35):
on the top and he looks up at Dan and
gives a line surely this must have been the son
of God. And the director said to him, can you
put more? Awe into it, and legend says, because when
you listen to he goes, ah, can't you see? This
must have been the son of God?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Kind of like that moment.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Don't tell John Wayne or will you shouting her how
to do their jobs?
Speaker 10 (15:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And that was the trap and the producer had stepped up. No, No,
I want you to tell me how you want me
to read this? You're the expert.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean, Bill was just he was not letting him
off the hook.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Christian.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Here's alexas she texts, and you can do so as well.
Five seven seven, three nine Love Boston Legal with William
Shatner and James Spader.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
What a pairing then, was?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Denny Crane right, Denny, Yes, Denny Crane absolutely as Jeane.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Smart I forgot her name at a brain Chris, Oh yes, yeah, who's.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Quite who's so good in the show?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Got you so?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean kind of putting a fine point on this,
Christian where William Shatner has spoken up, but you know
he's ninety four. People are gonna kind of look at
him maybe the same way that they did Richard dryfists.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Who's you know, Boomer.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's aging out like, oh you know, what do you know, Boomer,
But I don't know. There's something about William Shatner that's
that kind of it resonates. It's timeless. People look at him,
I think, with respect and reverence, but will just smooth
the needle at all? Are people moving away from the
kind of the woke same old, same old.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yea in a minor way.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Listen, what he did alone doesn't move the need The
fact that he said it is important. The fact that
he was okay with saying it, I think that does matter.
I think there was a mild blowback for him on
Twitter x and he didn't seem to care. No.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
But you know, time is passing.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You know, people have it's not my turn. But people
said that we went through a moral panic. I think
it's a really accurate way to describe what happened in
twenty twenty. In the last few years, it was a
genuine moral panic, and I think we're just kind of
shaking our heads and coming out of that. That moment
in time, it was a terrible moment. I mean, they
were banning episodes, they were canceling comedians. I remember it
(17:39):
quite well. I mean I talked to comedians, said yeah,
I put out a joke on social media, and they
got banned, It got censored, it got taken down. I
got this. It wasn't gross, it wasn't dirty, It wasn't this,
it wasn't that. It just was deemed inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah, and I think it's just one more voice. The
more people speak the truth, the more you get to
a tipping point and.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Speaking of truth. Thank you for the said way there,
Deborah Flora.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
We're so welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
This also featured at Hollywood intoto dot com. The Key
of Kings being released just in time for Easter and
Good Friday and being released to rave responses from both
critics and potential audiences alike. We'll talk about that and
then a little bit our Friday Fool the Week nominees
are next.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
Socialist Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortes responded flying first class to
a Bernie Sanders rally last month, sparking criticism over what
summer calling political hypocrisy. A passenger snapped a photo of
the New York congresswoman seated in Jet Blue's first class
cabin on flight five to eleven from JFK to Las
Vegas on March nineteenth, the day before she took the
(18:43):
stage at a fighting Oligarchy event with Senator Bernie Sanders.
The flyer who took the photo claimed AOC ignored comments
from voters and quipped that she's fighting the system, one
first class mimosa at a time. According to Jet Blue's website,
a first class seat on that route costs upward of
eleven dollars. The critics slams of the congresswoman's luxury travel choice,
(19:04):
noting her vocal so appoint for climate change action and
income equality. AOC's office declined to comment, of course. At
the rallies in North Las Vegas and Arizona State University,
Ocasio Cortez urged Democrats to fight for the working class
and criticized her own party for failing to stand up
to Republicans.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, when it's other people's money, you fly for his class.
That's the message from AOC there, and she wasn't done
leading off our Friday fool. The weak nominees listen to
this closely and try to decipher if it makes any sense.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
Trump seems to be doing, you know, from tweeting people
to buystock and then later announcing his development on taxes.
If people are pissed about insider trading here at the House.
Look at what's happening at the White House right now
and with the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do you think he knew what he was doing when
he sent out that message of bell stocks before he
made the announcement.
Speaker 12 (19:57):
It sure seemed like he did. I don't think that
it was a coincidence. I don't think that Trump just
coincidentally said buy stocks and then shortly later made an
announcement that dramatically inflated and dramatically raised a lot of
these asset prices.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
My brain hurts.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
So this is the woman who leads apparently Chuck Schumer
by like twenty points in a recent poll from a
potential primary challenge, and she's telling us, Deborah, that it's
insider trading when the President puts out on true social
for the world to see out in the public sphere,
it's a good time to buy stocks. But yet that's
(20:40):
insider trading. When hours later he announces that he's putting
a pause on the tariffs.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Oh, it is so crazy. I mean, what I think
is interesting what we're watching. Why is there such a
vitriolic attack on Elon Musk right now because he is
starting to expose the worst insider trading that has been
going on, and want Hinton DC with your and my
tax dollars. Now I acknowledge up front that's not just
(21:05):
one side of the aisle, but one of one of
the worst perpetrators of this. Nancy Pelosi, at the height
of her congressional career, probably made you know, somewhere in
the two hundred thousand dollars ranges, Speaker of the House,
her husband is worth over two hundred million dollars right now.
And by the way, members of Congress only have to
(21:26):
report their own income and holdings, not their spouses. So
maybe you know AOC is a little upset because I
don't think she's married, so she can't hide all of
her insider trading. You know, find someone else. But it
is crazy. First of all, you're right, it's not inside
trading when it is out for the entire world to see.
And number two, if you're really against it, then you
would be all over what DOJE is doing right now
(21:48):
to expose it?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Pretty strong leadoff hitter right there, Christian up to be
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'd like to have one journalist say with you just said, Debra,
just one is it insider trading when he tells the world, I.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Mean, that's out our trade.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Journalistic question. And you know if you lined up a
thousand journalists, not one would ask her.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, nowminy number two, we've got Chris Matthews husk the hardball,
MSNB safe and canceled back.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Where are we going to get the wood? If not
for Canada?
Speaker 13 (22:19):
I watched them in the evening news last night, one
of the other networks, and I watched the issue of lumber. Now,
you see, we get so much of our lumber are
two by fours from from Canada?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What's where we get it from Canada?
Speaker 13 (22:31):
We got our newsprint from up different newspapers. The fact
is we get it.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What are we going to do have more lumber made
in the United States?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Now?
Speaker 13 (22:37):
What is our plan?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Now?
Speaker 13 (22:39):
Oh, we're not going to import wood, so we're going
to make more wood.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
We're going to create more wood.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't think we are.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
In a position to simply replicate the imports coming into
this country with our own products.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They can't always be done.
Speaker 13 (22:52):
And I think if a woods example of that wood,
are we going to make more wood in this country
because of our trade deal.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Christian would grow on trees away.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yes, has he ever been where wood is made?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Or created? As he terms it?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Right there, Chris Matthews our second nominee.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
For our Fool of the Week.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Now, Deborah, I did a little research, didn't take much,
just Google search. Do you know who the number one
source of wood imports for Canada is?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's the United States?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Of course it is, you know it. First of all,
this is the ultimate hubris that's that we're using today
for someone like Chris Matthews thinks that human beings even
create wood. That's God. It's called a tree, and we
have plenty of them here. And by the way, it
has been the side that he is representing that has
(23:47):
kept us from utilizing our resources. Now, I love nature.
I do not want to get rid of forest, but
when we actually steward our resources, America is the richest
country on the entire planet. Let us steward our resources
ar trees. That know, Chris Matthews, you did not make
We do not need to make more. We just need
(24:08):
to manage them well. And by the way, you know
how we manage them well. We take better care of
our forests. There you go, they're burning down, because would
they no longer allow us to manage them?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You got to clear them out, Christen, he told that
to gather, you got to clear.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Out of the brush. Oh boys, anyone in the set
of MSNBC like doing the cut sign or whispering in
his ear or saying wait a minute, waving behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He's the guy that blows right through those kind of
stop sides. Anyway, I would say what I want to say.
Here's Anderson Cooper. Now he is kind of the fool
by proxy here and you know right where I'm going, Christian,
because it doesn't just stand up to this obvious idiocy.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
After a large Cantown hall or vapper. Senator Bernie Sanders,
I want to introduce Grace Thomas.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He's a local civil rights attorney. She's a Democrat.
Speaker 14 (24:57):
Right, actually, thank you, pevene, Senator Sanders. Pulling and turnout
data indicate that men of all racial demographics are turning
away from the Democratic Party. But of course, white men
in particular do not feel that the DNC's messaging targets
them and the issues that they care about. Should progressive
campaigns craft policies and messaging to better encapsulate these voters.
(25:20):
And if the answer is yes, how do they do
so without abandoning marginalized voters of color and gender.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Speaking as a white man, because I am one, here's
the problem. They them when you are obviously, if you
saw the video for this, this is a white woman.
There is nothing about her that's they them, that's he him,
that's masculine male.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
This is a woman. She's a white woman.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
If you want to get white men back, guess what
white men aren't really crazy about when somebody like you,
corrects Anderson Cooper, who honestly came by and he sees
a woman. Oh no, it's they them outa here with
that nonsense, You're never gonna win white men back over
to the Democratic Party for that reason alone.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Christian Adam Carolla famously says the reason why they use
them is because they want to correct you during the
process and kind of lord over you and make sure
that you're you're not stepping over them. They're kind of
they kind of it's.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
A power swipe.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's a power move, exactly. It's absurd, and you want
to I mean, she really just answered her own question
with bad day them.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I mean she could just stopped.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Excuse me, it's stay them and oh I'll retreat.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Have you ever been Anderson Cooper the poor guy here?
And if so, how would you respond to that?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I would say, can you get to the question as
quickly through? Because that the person who got up there
obviously just went on and on and on it. And
by the way, I would have liked to have gotten
to Bernie Sanders, because, by the way, he's the socialist that,
when asked to define socialism at one point in time,
said he couldn't really do that.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Berwin Bill Maher asked him, I mean you don't. He
was asking the difference, So what was it? Inequality?
Speaker 14 (26:55):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And you described the two equality like, oh, so you're
not for And if you would have seen Bernie's face
and this woman they them Anderson Cooper's like what it
was totally confusing.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Let's take a step back. So in her daily life,
if she wants to correct the people, she will be
correcting people all day long at the deli counter, out
of the bank, at the cocktail party.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You want that person at your cocktail party. Well, if
even if you're a lefty, you want that person in
your cock. Actually it's they them. No, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But also there are times where people make a mistake
and you kind of go with the foe. You don't
stop things cold to say no, wait it's X. You
kind of just go with it. You know that he meant.
He meant to address her in a professional, responsible way. Yeah,
you don't jump in and jump well.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
And I think you guys hit the nail on the head.
It is everybody who is in this this particular subset
of our culture wanting to be able to correct others.
I have been with people who are transgender, and I
just speak directly to them. I don't there's no reason
for me to use a pronoun when I'm talking directly
to somebody. I don't say Ryan, I'm asking the question,
(28:06):
and they will then scold me for not actively using
their pronouns. I'm like, I'm talking to you. This is
obviously not what your issue is in some way, try
to cast dispersion on another human being period, to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Take control and power of a conversation by force. And
that's what happened right there, Tory Anderson Cooper. But he's
a nominee. I'm sorry he needed a step. I don't
think so he would have been awesome and we all
have good for you. But anyway, we move on, sunny hauston.
She's at it again. She was fool of the Year
last year and then that title was not easily won.
But she's on her way with another comment like this one.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Don't have cars, don't have driver's licenses, so it's it's
sort of a vestige of I think, post slavery laws
where they where black people had to prove their right
to vote, and oftentimes they couldn't vote because they couldn't
pass some crazy to or they didn't have the appropriate ID.
It also affects women, women that are married. Maybe one
(29:06):
your passport reflects something that's different on your on your
ver certificate or on your driver's license. So really the
bottom line is voter suppression. And I agree with him
one hundred percent. It's a brilliant notion that less voter
ID laws allows more people to vote, and most democracies
do it that way. We're the only ones that really don't.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, First of all, less less voter ID laws mean
more people vote. Yeah, more people who shouldn't be voting
are voting now. Deborah yes, you are a married woman.
I am, and I go Jonathan's last name.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yes, I did name. Oh it was so hard to say.
It was German and as Spellos. So when I when
I got to marry Flora, I'm like, I am Senora Debora,
Flora from Aurora, and I am running with ads.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
From now on.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
But to her point, is it difficult for you to
vote because you took your husband's last name.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
No? No, because either way, I'm happy to I prove
that I'm a citizen of the United States, of which
I'm very proud of, and therefore I have a right
to elect the leaders of the country of which I
am as citizen. Well, this is such an absurd gas
lighting argument, and I find it as a woman to
be quite insulting. I remember, you know, one time being
(30:18):
told because I'm a conservative woman, I don't think for myself,
my husband thinks for me at miss tail. Oh my gosh,
just ask my husband, and I'm going to let you
know that is absolutely not the case. We are equal
and amazing partners and all that we do. I just
think it's absurd when you cannot make a point, you
get into circular nonsensical reasoning. Anyone who wants their vote
(30:40):
to count wants voter ID, which most were republic Let's
just make that clearer, but most voting democracies throughout the
world do that. Why the citizens should select their own
leaders period.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
A US citizen should get one and only one vote,
and every US citizen should be able to vote. No
one who's not a US citizen should be able to vote.
That was the founders and why they set it up
the way that they did. Christian this issue was just
a ballot measure. In Wisconsin, they elected on the same
ballot a liberal justice to their states Supreme Court. All
counties but two Madison, where a bunch of commedies are
(31:16):
University of Wisconsin in Dane County. There and Milwaukee barely
fifty one to forty nine voted against it. Every other
county in Wisconsin, a purple state, voted for voter ID
in order to participate in elections.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
This is another one of those eighty twenty issues.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It seems like that the Democrats are dedicated to die
on the hill of the twenty side.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's just thinking at what a hill to die on?
What a fight you need to kind of declare, I
just can't imagine it. And again she's on a nationwide
talk show. She has so much power and so much
cloud and touch a microphone before her, and this is
what she does.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
It is absurd.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And again no one around her just gives her a
little tali and says, you know, Sonny, what are you
doing here? And it's so connestant. And it used to
be just about black peace. People can't figure this out,
which is so humiliating, condescending. Now she's expanded to women. Yes,
like it's nineteen twenty five or something.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Gosh, you just hit. The last thing I wanted to
say about this is it is so insulting. It is
such reverse racism, reverse sexism to say, oh, if you
are a minority, or you are a female and have
certain chromosomes, you can't figure out how to get an ID,
you can't figure out how to register to vote. That's
insulting and it's time to call it out.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Those are our nominees for a Friday Fool of the Week,
once again, aoc A double dip. Chris Matthews doesn't know
where what comes from. Anderson Cooper gets stood up by
a they them Sonny Houston, claiming voter ID laws are
a vestage of post slavery laws, and they discriminate against
married women like Deborah Flora.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh my, Borah Flora.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
I'm so grateful she's speaking for me.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
A break and we're back. I'll have a portion of
the trailer from the King of Kings that's opening. I
think it's this weekend, the head of Easter Animated feature
and Christian will have the.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Latest after this.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And that is from the King of King's official trailer
in theaters today April eleventh. Angels Studio some very big
names in this. Pierce Brosnan is Ponscious Pilot, Oscar Isaac
is Jesus Kindeth Branna is, Charles Dickens the lead kind
of modern human in the film. Uma Thurmond is in this,
and shockingly not just Ben Kingsley. Mark Hamill is in this.
(33:26):
Christian how well.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You know, he's a very good voice actor for one,
and he wants a gig.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
That's two.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
But you know what's interesting here this is Angel Studios.
They were essentially an upstart movie studio. They started with
The Chosen. They don't have The Chosen anymore officially, but
they're new, they're young, and they're not faith based. They
say that they want to amplify light is the way
they can have phrase it. So it's upbeat, it's positive,
it's as inspirational. But this kind of a project I
(33:55):
think ten years ago, maybe even five years ago, wouldn't
attract these I don't think.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I think maybe scared of it.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
This is a new studio.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
We're wait.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You know, Debora, we were talking about this. When you
see someone like Mark Hamill who's not drawn to it
necessarily because of a belief system, where some of the others.
But you have a list actors across the board. It's
also like House of David. Amazon has actually produced this
which is very faith based. It's accurate. I think they
understand the market is huge and the need is great, and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
This is out just in time for Easter.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It opens today and theaters everywhere, including right here in
the Metro Denver area. Deborah, Flora, Christian Total, thank you
as always, have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Great to be here, Total, I'll see you tonight for
Nick Swardson. Yes, time out. We're back with more after
this on Ryan Schruling Live.
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