November 4, 2024 • 21 mins
Bishop Briggs chats with host Lisa Worden about her new record Tell My Therapist I'm Fine, her 2025 tour, bringing her family on tour, collabing with Travis Barker and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're listening to she is the voice the semial
(00:02):
alternative artists that you need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here's your hosts A Warden All ninety eight seven, LA's
new alternative you're listening to?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
She is the voice.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I'm here with somebody I've been wanting to have
in with me for definitely a couple of years now,
and I'm so excited to have you.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Bishop Briggs is here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I am sappy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, I am so happy to have you in here.
You and I have known each other for several, many,
many years, and just I do the show to honor
women in music, and your name has come up so
many times when we're talking about having artists in and
I'm just really glad that this day has come.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh gosh, I'm so glad. And I'm such a fan
of your show and I think the concept is so
important and I love that we're here today.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thank you, Thank you so much, Bishop, for anyone listening
who might not be completely familiar with her, she in
my opinion and has one of the most powerful, incredible
voices in music. And not only do I consider you
a friend, but such a big fan. And we have
done a lot of really amazing things together. You were
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one of the first women to play Alter Ego, and
I look back on that so fondly. That was I
want to say, four years ago maybe yeah, yeah, And
I bring it up because we just announced our new
lineup for twenty twenty five. But Bishop was such such
an important part of that year of Alter Ego.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah. I mean, this entire interview is going to be
just me tearing up every time you talk. Well, you
have that effect.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
On me, I have to admit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So I was making notes for our talk today and
I was tearing up making the notes because we're going
to talk about some things, and you know, I don't
know it just I was personally tearing up at a
few of these things.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But yeah, a lot of life has been living.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of life.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And I want to say, the biggest reason we are
here today, though, is celebrating your new album, and it's
called Tell My Therapist.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm Fine.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It came out a couple weeks ago, and I have
chills just talking about it because it is such an amazing, beautiful,
powerful emotional album.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
First of all, the title I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I love that you can be kind of you know,
tongue in cheek and it's a really it's a really
great title for an album. But yeah, let's let's get
into it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean, I just appreciate so much that you came
to the release show. I don't think people realize how
rare it is to have someone that's in your position
that shows up to a little hole in the wall show.
I mean that means so much.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That's kind of you to say, but I was happy
to be there and kind of, like we said, we've
known each other for so long.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I wanted to be there.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
First of all, I wanted to hear these songs because
you played the entire album for us, and what was
so cool is you talked about each in between the music,
and I thought for your fans that was really special
for them to hear from you in your words the
meanings behind these songs.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Thanks you, And I know I feel like we discussed this,
but or maybe I talked about it on stage, but
I it took me a few songs to realize that
people have not heard the album yet, and so I
was like, Wow, no one's singing along, not a single person,
And they were so sweet. So it was so confusing
(03:30):
because I was like, Wow, this is very interesting. And
then within a few songs I actually know how many
songs and it was the fifth song in it all
clicked correct. They have not heard the album yet, which
is why they cannot sing along, but that night felt
so special and I don't know, getting the opportunity to
(03:52):
talk about what the songs mean, I think it's a
tough one because you want people to have their own
interpretation of But I know, for me, when I hear
an artist talk about the meaning, I feel like it
adds more depth to the song. Yeah, and adds a
backstory that I was sort of longing for.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
As a listener, I completely agree, And as a fan
of so many bands and artists, I love when they
share tidbits or just you know, meanings behind songs or
what was going on when they recorded those songs. So
I think that was a really special evening. And speaking
of songs, we are here with Bishop Briggs and we're
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talking about her brand new album Tell my Therapist. I'm fine,
let's talk about my serotonin.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I was in New York and I had a whole
twenty four hours without my baby, which any mom knows.
It's just very difficult. And I started writing that verse
when I was walking in New York, which, by the way,
is just such a cliche, like having the voice mema
open and like singing into my phone, like I just
(04:59):
cringe it myself, but it just it is what it is.
I have to have self acceptance. And then I met
up with this writer. It was my first time writing
with her. Her name is Skuylaur stone Street, and first
time writing with her, and she just came into the
room and told me about all of her motherhood journey
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and I was like, okay, wait, this is perfect. I
have been I have this whole verse that I've been writing,
and it was about this hopeless feeling of wanting my
baby to be the most independent baby in the world,
and also like longing for my baby all the time
and having so much love for my baby. And so
she was the perfect person I feel to write with
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for this. And the title of the album is actually
in those lyrics, so it's tell my therapist I'm fine.
I'm done lying all the time because I'm not fucking fine.
And yeah, so that's the little story behind it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You've been through a lot in the last four years
or so, and I knew your sister Kate. I probably
I don't have the right words, but do you feel
like when you were making this album that she was
channeling through you and with you as you were making
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these songs.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. I mean, first of all, I love that you
got to meet Kate. That automatically, you know, just brings
me so much joy, just instantly. Yeah, And I tried
to have it bring me joy rather than sorrow. Yeah.
The music that my sister introduced me to growing up
was very It was a lot of warped tour. There's
this festival in Japan called Summer Sonic and that was
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her thing. And the first song that was written on
the album was right before Lockdown, which was right around
the time of Kate's diagnosis, and that was this song
called Isolated Love with Travis Barker. And I remember leaving
that session. You know, it's a little bit there's the
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vocal delivery is more of a scream, and it's a
lot more raw than I normally sing in a vocal booth.
And I remember leaving that session being like, Wow, that
was so much fun, that was so librating. This is
gonna be great for another artist. And then I played
my sister the song, and we're both, you know, huge
Travis Barker fans. I play her this song and she
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was like, this is one of my favorite songs you've
ever done. And since it was so early in the diagnosis,
you know, she got to really react to it, you know,
by singing along and playing it and and I think,
either consciously or subconsciously, I just found myself chasing that
ever since. You know, I I'll never really be able
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to know her reaction to some of the songs, but
it was this lingering feeling of like, wow, I really
knew her reaction to that particular song that had a
very specific energy that was completely our childhood, which is
very my chemical romance. And yeah, Paramore, yeah, all those
Yeah bands kind.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Of the warped to her EMO when we were young.
Is the new festival now?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, Yeah, I could see you on when we were young.
By the way, I could totally see you on that festival.
I could so see Bishop on there and thrive like
I could really, especially with this new album, like the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Sound of it, I know, I want to be there
so badly, whether as a fan or a performer. I
am I know that that is on my bucket list
for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, we've known each other for several years, and honestly,
I'm such a fan of your work, but also I
just love you as a person and just really glad
to have you here. Tonight we are celebrating Bishop's new
album Tell My Therapist, I'm Fine. It is out now,
stream it anywhere. Let's talk about Mona Lisa on a Mattress.
We've been playing that song ever since you put it out,
(08:57):
which it's I think that was the first track you released.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
On this album. I absolutely love this song. I love it.
It's one of my favorites on the album.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh yes, yes, yes, So tell us about this song.
I read that it was about you were in a
situationship with somebody and you know, and I know what
you mean when you say they like all the like
literally pretty things, but when it gets real, it's like, oh,
like it's too scary for me.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, I was in a situationship and I realized I'd
never written about it, and so much of the album
and it's so freeing and fun to be able to
say this on your platform form. But so much of
the album is really the experience of girlhood and the
lessons that my sister taught me along the way. And
I feel like girlhood is not complete without the bizarre
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situationship that appears. And I feel like you learn so
much about yourself and self worth. And I will say
I I came home with this song to show my husband,
and who was not the situationship, And thank goodness. Yes,
And as you know, this song is very it's lust
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and it's supposed to, you know, feel very euphoric. And
there's this excitement surrounding this person. And he was like,
this is so kind of you, Like I'm so flattered.
I was like, yes, it's about that guy from years ago.
Do you remember him?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He was horrible?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Do you remember him? So I will say, I don't
know that it's my husband's favorite.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Song, but I would guess probably not.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, but I understand, yes, yeah, yes, but he's an artist,
so he understands. But I was telling him like it's
a chapter I realized I have never written about. And
so he said, I'm so happy for you and our
child we have together. I could not be happier that
you get to be creative with your spirit.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, absolutely, And music is art and you know again.
I love that song, and I don't necessarily love the
meaning behind it with this person, but you created a
really amazing song out of it, and your voice sounds incredible.
I want to go back to the beginning a little bit.
First of all, I didn't know this until I read it,
but you got your name from your parents' hometown in Scotland.
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I didn't realize that Bishopriggs was the name of the town.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yes, and I feel like I have to tell you
this because my Auntie Amrie would kill me if I
it's one word. That is one word. Yes, but I
created it. I created a last name. But yeah, so
my whole family currently still lives there, and that's where
my mom and dad were born.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So your mom and dad's still there?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes? Well, no, no, no, okay. I was like, wait, sorry
that he's saying. I don't know why I took that
as you being like are they still together?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No? Did I jump to that. I was like, yes
they are. No, they're in Hong Kong.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Actually, yeah, in Hong Kong, because yes, I read you
moved there. That was your early childhood. You came to
LA after high school? Yes, yes, and you know again
we I talk about your voice a lot, because it
is so powerful, but you're rooted gospel and soul and
you've just got this, You've got depth to your voice.
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That soul is the best way to describe it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's the biggest compliment ever.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Oh no, no, I mean your voice is truly a
big instrument. And and then like you said, as you
as you aged, you kind of found new styles of music.
So my chemical Romance and bands like that kind of
open your world. And it was funny, whether it was
true or not, I read you were like, all right,
a little bit having an anxiety attack, and I need
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to find new, you know, new styles of music that
I'm into or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But always yes, yes, And I mean I think also transition,
why is it made a lot of sense because you know,
whether you're listening to a classic motown record, you know,
whether it's Eda, James, Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin, and then
going into let's say Janis Joplin, they're all truth tellers,
you know, And I think I've always been really drawn
(12:58):
to that style of songwriting. And yeah, and then then
you go into the emo land and that's the main focus,
and there's also a bit of humor and cheekiness that
I love about that time frame of music.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, and that soulfulness is still very
present in your vocal presentation with your current music.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
But the current music has.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
A very modern sound obviously, but.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's always there. Let's talk about the first time I
actually got exposed to your music is the song River,
which is freaking massive. I mean, when you see how
many times that song has been streamed, it's truly astounding.
It's in the billions, that song is, so I mean
that kind of jump started you in a way, right.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It was crazy. That was the second song I released.
The first one was this song called Wild Horses.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yes, I remember that one too.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Oh yeah, I love that. Yeah, It's the most real
thing ever, and it's I'm so grateful that it's a
song I just love, you know. And it's a song
that represents a lot for me too, you know, really
positive memories and yeah, I'm just hearing it for the
first time.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So you just announced your tour for twenty twenty five.
Tell my therapist, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Tour.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You're gonna be here at the Terogram Ballroom March thirteenth.
Are you excited to go on tour.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, I can't wait. So the last time I was
on tour was with Mister Wives. Yes, and I brought
my husband and baby, and my baby learned how to.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Walk on tour.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And I love touring, So I am excited to bring
the family again. And I'm excited also about the venues
that we chose. Yeah, this particular run, I feel like
there's going to be that intimacy that I want. But yeah,
but I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I noticed that, Yeah, it's like small theaters.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Teargram is such an iconic room here in LA, so
that's going to be really special. But I did, I
looked at all the venues for your tour, and it is.
It's going to be very special, very intimate. I bet
you can't wait to get these new songs heard.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh, I can't wait, in.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
A live in a live fashion, you know, one one
more thing and then we're gonna let you go. But
being a woman in this industry is not easy sometimes.
And I can say that from my side. I'm on
a very different side of this business than you are.
But you know, it took a lot of work and
you know, uh, passion and kind of climbing the ladder
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to get where I am today. Let's speak about that
from your side. This is something I talk to a
lot of our guests about your journey.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. I mean, that's why you're such an inspiration to me,
because I, you know, I owe so much to the
world of radio. And with that being said, you know,
I've been in these rooms and you will be the
only woman. You know, it's all men. Yeah, and thankfully
some lovely men, you know, and hopefully the horrible men
(16:09):
have been fired by now. But I do think the
question of what is it like being a woman in music,
I do find it really important to discuss personally because
I I wish I had heard more of these conversations
when I was coming into the industry. I will say
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something that I really bonded with really early on was
with one of my best friends, this artist named Kay Flea,
and she's been on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
She has I love Christine, Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And she has such a good radio voice side note yeah, yeah, filter.
I don't know what she does. And that was something
that we really connected over because at the time, it
would either be her or me at these radio festivals.
And then we finally met and we had a really
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shared experience in a lot of ways and in a
lot of ways different as well. I think the biggest
thing I would say about being a woman in the
music industry is really about looking around and seeing how
it makes the people that are working around you. How
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does it make them feel when you take up space?
You know, are they supporting that, are they encouraging that?
Are they lifting you up to take even more space?
Because I think for a long time I didn't realize
how not okay my situation was, and then the Me
Too movement happened and I realized that so much of
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what I was experiencing others were experiencing. And I think
a big thing with feminism is it just feels very equal.
It feels very but at the same time, I think
a big part of feminism is understanding that the female
experience is different. So like the men that I work with,
something that I really appreciate one of the men in
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one of the men is here, you guys. Something I
really's and something I really appreciate about him in particular
is that, well, now I'm nervous. I know, I can't
look at it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'm nervous.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is that he understands that fundamentally, my experience in the
world is different than his, and so I think the
definition of feminism is really that we are completely treated equal.
But I think when you are working in this industry
or any sort of field, it's important that your male
counterparts understand that your experience has been different to theirs,
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that they're a common dating to that, and understanding and
and also open if they don't understand something, you know,
whether something happens at a shoot, or you know, a
man says something to you in passing that makes you uncomfortable,
or you know. I've of course had the experiences in
meet and greet where people have like filmed up my skirt.
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I guess can't. So many of those experiences can't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And it's been how someone thinks that's okay and that
they can do that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It's beyond me.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And you wouldn't believe. I mean, well, you know this
from even doing this. And also you're such an ally,
so I feel like women feel safe sharing this with you.
But every artist has experienced that, I know at a
meet and greet, which is just so crazy now, but yeah,
but having having the people around you empower you.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yep, yeah, I think that was well said.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And you know, for any artists listening, because I do
have a lot of young artists that like to listen
to the show. Surround yourself with the right people. I
mean that really is so important. And if something doesn't
feel right, get rid of it. Yes, you know, you
don't have to stand for that. You don't have to
just feel like you can't make a decision to, you know,
get rid of somebody on your team if you feel
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creeped out by Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And if you don't enjoy you don't enjoy the success. Yeah,
you know it really it doesn't feel the same. It's
kind of it's like a bitter taste in your mouth. Yeah,
because no matter what you're you're promoting them. Yeah, unfortunately
by keeping them on your team when you're experiencing success.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You're right, Yeah, you're right, Bishop Briggs. It's been a
joy to have you in studio with us. Her new
album Tell My Therapist I'm Fine is out now. Please
go listen. It is ten songs. Every single one of
these songs is worth a listener. It is such a
good album. March thirteenth, Teagram Ballroom will see her play
it live. Thank you for coming in.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Thank you you're an angel. She is the voice the
female musicians that are creating tomorrow sound. She is the
voice on seven LA's new alternative
If you're listening to she is the voice the semial
(00:02):
alternative artists that you need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here's your hosts A Warden All ninety eight seven, LA's
new alternative you're listening to?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
She is the voice.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I'm here with somebody I've been wanting to have
in with me for definitely a couple of years now,
and I'm so excited to have you.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Bishop Briggs is here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I am sappy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, I am so happy to have you in here.
You and I have known each other for several, many,
many years, and just I do the show to honor
women in music, and your name has come up so
many times when we're talking about having artists in and
I'm just really glad that this day has come.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh gosh, I'm so glad. And I'm such a fan
of your show and I think the concept is so
important and I love that we're here today.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thank you, Thank you so much, Bishop, for anyone listening
who might not be completely familiar with her, she in
my opinion and has one of the most powerful, incredible
voices in music. And not only do I consider you
a friend, but such a big fan. And we have
done a lot of really amazing things together. You were
(01:13):
one of the first women to play Alter Ego, and
I look back on that so fondly. That was I
want to say, four years ago maybe yeah, yeah, And
I bring it up because we just announced our new
lineup for twenty twenty five. But Bishop was such such
an important part of that year of Alter Ego.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah. I mean, this entire interview is going to be
just me tearing up every time you talk. Well, you
have that effect.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
On me, I have to admit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So I was making notes for our talk today and
I was tearing up making the notes because we're going
to talk about some things, and you know, I don't
know it just I was personally tearing up at a
few of these things.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But yeah, a lot of life has been living.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of life.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And I want to say, the biggest reason we are
here today, though, is celebrating your new album, and it's
called Tell My Therapist.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm Fine.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It came out a couple weeks ago, and I have
chills just talking about it because it is such an amazing, beautiful,
powerful emotional album.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
First of all, the title I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I love that you can be kind of you know,
tongue in cheek and it's a really it's a really
great title for an album. But yeah, let's let's get
into it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean, I just appreciate so much that you came
to the release show. I don't think people realize how
rare it is to have someone that's in your position
that shows up to a little hole in the wall show.
I mean that means so much.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That's kind of you to say, but I was happy
to be there and kind of, like we said, we've
known each other for so long.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I wanted to be there.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
First of all, I wanted to hear these songs because
you played the entire album for us, and what was
so cool is you talked about each in between the music,
and I thought for your fans that was really special
for them to hear from you in your words the
meanings behind these songs.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Thanks you, And I know I feel like we discussed this,
but or maybe I talked about it on stage, but
I it took me a few songs to realize that
people have not heard the album yet, and so I
was like, Wow, no one's singing along, not a single person,
And they were so sweet. So it was so confusing
(03:30):
because I was like, Wow, this is very interesting. And
then within a few songs I actually know how many
songs and it was the fifth song in it all
clicked correct. They have not heard the album yet, which
is why they cannot sing along, but that night felt
so special and I don't know, getting the opportunity to
(03:52):
talk about what the songs mean, I think it's a
tough one because you want people to have their own
interpretation of But I know, for me, when I hear
an artist talk about the meaning, I feel like it
adds more depth to the song. Yeah, and adds a
backstory that I was sort of longing for.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
As a listener, I completely agree, And as a fan
of so many bands and artists, I love when they
share tidbits or just you know, meanings behind songs or
what was going on when they recorded those songs. So
I think that was a really special evening. And speaking
of songs, we are here with Bishop Briggs and we're
(04:32):
talking about her brand new album Tell my Therapist. I'm fine,
let's talk about my serotonin.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I was in New York and I had a whole
twenty four hours without my baby, which any mom knows.
It's just very difficult. And I started writing that verse
when I was walking in New York, which, by the way,
is just such a cliche, like having the voice mema
open and like singing into my phone, like I just
(04:59):
cringe it myself, but it just it is what it is.
I have to have self acceptance. And then I met
up with this writer. It was my first time writing
with her. Her name is Skuylaur stone Street, and first
time writing with her, and she just came into the
room and told me about all of her motherhood journey
(05:21):
and I was like, okay, wait, this is perfect. I
have been I have this whole verse that I've been writing,
and it was about this hopeless feeling of wanting my
baby to be the most independent baby in the world,
and also like longing for my baby all the time
and having so much love for my baby. And so
she was the perfect person I feel to write with
(05:44):
for this. And the title of the album is actually
in those lyrics, so it's tell my therapist I'm fine.
I'm done lying all the time because I'm not fucking fine.
And yeah, so that's the little story behind it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You've been through a lot in the last four years
or so, and I knew your sister Kate. I probably
I don't have the right words, but do you feel
like when you were making this album that she was
channeling through you and with you as you were making
(06:20):
these songs.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. I mean, first of all, I love that you
got to meet Kate. That automatically, you know, just brings
me so much joy, just instantly. Yeah, And I tried
to have it bring me joy rather than sorrow. Yeah.
The music that my sister introduced me to growing up
was very It was a lot of warped tour. There's
this festival in Japan called Summer Sonic and that was
(06:43):
her thing. And the first song that was written on
the album was right before Lockdown, which was right around
the time of Kate's diagnosis, and that was this song
called Isolated Love with Travis Barker. And I remember leaving
that session. You know, it's a little bit there's the
(07:03):
vocal delivery is more of a scream, and it's a
lot more raw than I normally sing in a vocal booth.
And I remember leaving that session being like, Wow, that
was so much fun, that was so librating. This is
gonna be great for another artist. And then I played
my sister the song, and we're both, you know, huge
Travis Barker fans. I play her this song and she
(07:25):
was like, this is one of my favorite songs you've
ever done. And since it was so early in the diagnosis,
you know, she got to really react to it, you know,
by singing along and playing it and and I think,
either consciously or subconsciously, I just found myself chasing that
ever since. You know, I I'll never really be able
(07:46):
to know her reaction to some of the songs, but
it was this lingering feeling of like, wow, I really
knew her reaction to that particular song that had a
very specific energy that was completely our childhood, which is
very my chemical romance. And yeah, Paramore, yeah, all those
Yeah bands kind.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Of the warped to her EMO when we were young.
Is the new festival now?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, Yeah, I could see you on when we were young.
By the way, I could totally see you on that festival.
I could so see Bishop on there and thrive like
I could really, especially with this new album, like the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Sound of it, I know, I want to be there
so badly, whether as a fan or a performer. I
am I know that that is on my bucket list
for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, we've known each other for several years, and honestly,
I'm such a fan of your work, but also I
just love you as a person and just really glad
to have you here. Tonight we are celebrating Bishop's new
album Tell My Therapist, I'm Fine. It is out now,
stream it anywhere. Let's talk about Mona Lisa on a Mattress.
We've been playing that song ever since you put it out,
(08:57):
which it's I think that was the first track you released.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
On this album. I absolutely love this song. I love it.
It's one of my favorites on the album.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh yes, yes, yes, So tell us about this song.
I read that it was about you were in a
situationship with somebody and you know, and I know what
you mean when you say they like all the like
literally pretty things, but when it gets real, it's like, oh,
like it's too scary for me.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, I was in a situationship and I realized I'd
never written about it, and so much of the album
and it's so freeing and fun to be able to
say this on your platform form. But so much of
the album is really the experience of girlhood and the
lessons that my sister taught me along the way. And
I feel like girlhood is not complete without the bizarre
(09:46):
situationship that appears. And I feel like you learn so
much about yourself and self worth. And I will say
I I came home with this song to show my husband,
and who was not the situationship, And thank goodness. Yes,
And as you know, this song is very it's lust
(10:08):
and it's supposed to, you know, feel very euphoric. And
there's this excitement surrounding this person. And he was like,
this is so kind of you, Like I'm so flattered.
I was like, yes, it's about that guy from years ago.
Do you remember him?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He was horrible?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Do you remember him? So I will say, I don't
know that it's my husband's favorite.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Song, but I would guess probably not.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, but I understand, yes, yeah, yes, but he's an artist,
so he understands. But I was telling him like it's
a chapter I realized I have never written about. And
so he said, I'm so happy for you and our
child we have together. I could not be happier that
you get to be creative with your spirit.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, absolutely, And music is art and you know again.
I love that song, and I don't necessarily love the
meaning behind it with this person, but you created a
really amazing song out of it, and your voice sounds incredible.
I want to go back to the beginning a little bit.
First of all, I didn't know this until I read it,
but you got your name from your parents' hometown in Scotland.
(11:12):
I didn't realize that Bishopriggs was the name of the town.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yes, and I feel like I have to tell you
this because my Auntie Amrie would kill me if I
it's one word. That is one word. Yes, but I
created it. I created a last name. But yeah, so
my whole family currently still lives there, and that's where
my mom and dad were born.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So your mom and dad's still there?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes? Well, no, no, no, okay. I was like, wait, sorry
that he's saying. I don't know why I took that
as you being like are they still together?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No? Did I jump to that. I was like, yes
they are. No, they're in Hong Kong.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Actually, yeah, in Hong Kong, because yes, I read you
moved there. That was your early childhood. You came to
LA after high school? Yes, yes, and you know again
we I talk about your voice a lot, because it
is so powerful, but you're rooted gospel and soul and
you've just got this, You've got depth to your voice.
(12:05):
That soul is the best way to describe it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's the biggest compliment ever.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Oh no, no, I mean your voice is truly a
big instrument. And and then like you said, as you
as you aged, you kind of found new styles of music.
So my chemical Romance and bands like that kind of
open your world. And it was funny, whether it was
true or not, I read you were like, all right,
a little bit having an anxiety attack, and I need
(12:31):
to find new, you know, new styles of music that
I'm into or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But always yes, yes, And I mean I think also transition,
why is it made a lot of sense because you know,
whether you're listening to a classic motown record, you know,
whether it's Eda, James, Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin, and then
going into let's say Janis Joplin, they're all truth tellers,
you know, And I think I've always been really drawn
(12:58):
to that style of songwriting. And yeah, and then then
you go into the emo land and that's the main focus,
and there's also a bit of humor and cheekiness that
I love about that time frame of music.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, and that soulfulness is still very
present in your vocal presentation with your current music.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
But the current music has.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
A very modern sound obviously, but.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's always there. Let's talk about the first time I
actually got exposed to your music is the song River,
which is freaking massive. I mean, when you see how
many times that song has been streamed, it's truly astounding.
It's in the billions, that song is, so I mean
that kind of jump started you in a way, right.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It was crazy. That was the second song I released.
The first one was this song called Wild Horses.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yes, I remember that one too.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Oh yeah, I love that. Yeah, It's the most real
thing ever, and it's I'm so grateful that it's a
song I just love, you know. And it's a song
that represents a lot for me too, you know, really
positive memories and yeah, I'm just hearing it for the
first time.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So you just announced your tour for twenty twenty five.
Tell my therapist, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Tour.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You're gonna be here at the Terogram Ballroom March thirteenth.
Are you excited to go on tour.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, I can't wait. So the last time I was
on tour was with Mister Wives. Yes, and I brought
my husband and baby, and my baby learned how to.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Walk on tour.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And I love touring, So I am excited to bring
the family again. And I'm excited also about the venues
that we chose. Yeah, this particular run, I feel like
there's going to be that intimacy that I want. But yeah,
but I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I noticed that, Yeah, it's like small theaters.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Teargram is such an iconic room here in LA, so
that's going to be really special. But I did, I
looked at all the venues for your tour, and it is.
It's going to be very special, very intimate. I bet
you can't wait to get these new songs heard.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh, I can't wait, in.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
A live in a live fashion, you know, one one
more thing and then we're gonna let you go. But
being a woman in this industry is not easy sometimes.
And I can say that from my side. I'm on
a very different side of this business than you are.
But you know, it took a lot of work and
you know, uh, passion and kind of climbing the ladder
(15:39):
to get where I am today. Let's speak about that
from your side. This is something I talk to a
lot of our guests about your journey.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. I mean, that's why you're such an inspiration to me,
because I, you know, I owe so much to the
world of radio. And with that being said, you know,
I've been in these rooms and you will be the
only woman. You know, it's all men. Yeah, and thankfully
some lovely men, you know, and hopefully the horrible men
(16:09):
have been fired by now. But I do think the
question of what is it like being a woman in music,
I do find it really important to discuss personally because
I I wish I had heard more of these conversations
when I was coming into the industry. I will say
(16:33):
something that I really bonded with really early on was
with one of my best friends, this artist named Kay Flea,
and she's been on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
She has I love Christine, Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And she has such a good radio voice side note yeah, yeah, filter.
I don't know what she does. And that was something
that we really connected over because at the time, it
would either be her or me at these radio festivals.
And then we finally met and we had a really
(17:11):
shared experience in a lot of ways and in a
lot of ways different as well. I think the biggest
thing I would say about being a woman in the
music industry is really about looking around and seeing how
it makes the people that are working around you. How
(17:32):
does it make them feel when you take up space?
You know, are they supporting that, are they encouraging that?
Are they lifting you up to take even more space?
Because I think for a long time I didn't realize
how not okay my situation was, and then the Me
Too movement happened and I realized that so much of
(17:57):
what I was experiencing others were experiencing. And I think
a big thing with feminism is it just feels very equal.
It feels very but at the same time, I think
a big part of feminism is understanding that the female
experience is different. So like the men that I work with,
something that I really appreciate one of the men in
(18:19):
one of the men is here, you guys. Something I
really's and something I really appreciate about him in particular
is that, well, now I'm nervous. I know, I can't
look at it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'm nervous.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is that he understands that fundamentally, my experience in the
world is different than his, and so I think the
definition of feminism is really that we are completely treated equal.
But I think when you are working in this industry
or any sort of field, it's important that your male
counterparts understand that your experience has been different to theirs,
(18:58):
that they're a common dating to that, and understanding and
and also open if they don't understand something, you know,
whether something happens at a shoot, or you know, a
man says something to you in passing that makes you uncomfortable,
or you know. I've of course had the experiences in
meet and greet where people have like filmed up my skirt.
(19:20):
I guess can't. So many of those experiences can't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And it's been how someone thinks that's okay and that
they can do that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It's beyond me.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And you wouldn't believe. I mean, well, you know this
from even doing this. And also you're such an ally,
so I feel like women feel safe sharing this with you.
But every artist has experienced that, I know at a
meet and greet, which is just so crazy now, but yeah,
but having having the people around you empower you.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yep, yeah, I think that was well said.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And you know, for any artists listening, because I do
have a lot of young artists that like to listen
to the show. Surround yourself with the right people. I
mean that really is so important. And if something doesn't
feel right, get rid of it. Yes, you know, you
don't have to stand for that. You don't have to
just feel like you can't make a decision to, you know,
get rid of somebody on your team if you feel
(20:09):
creeped out by Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And if you don't enjoy you don't enjoy the success. Yeah,
you know it really it doesn't feel the same. It's
kind of it's like a bitter taste in your mouth. Yeah,
because no matter what you're you're promoting them. Yeah, unfortunately
by keeping them on your team when you're experiencing success.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You're right, Yeah, you're right, Bishop Briggs. It's been a
joy to have you in studio with us. Her new
album Tell My Therapist I'm Fine is out now. Please
go listen. It is ten songs. Every single one of
these songs is worth a listener. It is such a
good album. March thirteenth, Teagram Ballroom will see her play
it live. Thank you for coming in.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Thank you you're an angel. She is the voice the
female musicians that are creating tomorrow sound. She is the
voice on seven LA's new alternative
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