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March 28, 2024 • 17 mins
WWE Superstar and WRESTLEMANIA main eventer Becky Lynch stopped by our studios to talk with Josh Martinez. Topics discussed: The insecurities that plagued her early on - Dealing with heartbreak - The one album she listened to while wrestling in Japan - Journaling since a young age - Stay at home mom's having a far more difficult job than she does - How does she want society to remember her? - Self sabotaging relationships - Being part of a fashion evolution in WWE - How important storytelling is to her matches & more!

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(00:00):
Heyo, what my name is?Josh Martinez Z one hundred, New York's
number one hit music station, oneof three five Kiss FM in Chicago and
the Superstar crossover on iHeartRadio with myguests. Who needs zero introduction? But
if I don't introduce her, shitwould be awkward. Becky Lynch, Lady,
Hello, I'm Deill. Great,thank you for that introduction. Of
course, of course you're on Cloudnine. The book is officially out.

(00:22):
It is out. It is peopleare reading this, dude, let me
tell you son. And I'm notsaying this to be cool, because I
don't think this is cool. Thisis not cool. I think I've read.
I think I've read like two booksmy whole life. Oh okay,
okay, yeah, I am onRustlemania thirty two for your book, which
is like, I don't know,two thirty something since the weekend. Oh
oh great, yeah, I amlike just going through the book. It

(00:45):
is tremendous. That is the biggestcompliment. Yeah, what made you want
to write the book to begin with? Well, I always wanted to write
a book, but it wanted towrite a book that people aren't like.
Oh gosh, I gotta finish thisbook. Something that people want to read
and want to turn the page andwant to find out what happens, like
I mean, you find out whathappens next, Like I'm here. I
gotta say you, it was veryfrustrating to read the book in the sense

(01:08):
of your insecurities kill me, onlyto realize that I'm actually projecting onto you.
Ooh ooh interesting a lot of likeI see myself in a lot of
your story. Have you gotten peoplesaying similar things to you? Uh?
Not really, I think I thinkmore than more than anything, I think
people do find it fascinating. Ihope I at least call it out that

(01:30):
like I'm aware that this is ridiculous, but here is what I was feeling,
you know, and uh and andand but that's the thing is that
it's sometimes we're going through these thingswhen we should be feeling the most confident,
and we're like, oh my goodnow I'm a good note for they're
gonna hear me, and like wedo that constantly or no, I've done

(01:52):
that constant, And it's constantly abattle to fight it and to shut it
the hell up and shut it thehell down, and eventually you learn to
just get on with it You're like, Okay, this voice is always going
to be here. Feck off,you know, like, just go away,
just go away. I don't wantto deal with you anymore. You
talk about journaling in your book alot that you wish you did it earlier

(02:13):
in life, and then you kindof do it. You've done it more
or less, like about the lasttwenty ish years or sothing. Oh no,
I've actually done it my entire life. Yeah. Yeah, my dad
was I mean not my entire life, but my dad was on me from
an early age to right right,right right. I think the biggest thing
was I would just write about howI was feeling at all times. So
I think that's been very helpful inthat I was able to give you a

(02:38):
detailed account of how I was feelingduring all the biggest moments in my life,
as opposed to the nitty gritty ofstories which I go into too.
But I think how you feel aboutsomething is more important than the standard facts
behind things, because it ain't aboutit ain't about like what people say or

(02:59):
do. It is about how theymake you feel. A human being.
Yeah, I mean I am ahuman being and I write about being a
human being. You have any plansto pass those journal entries down to your
daughter. No, God, no, no, no, no. Burn
burn burn burn after reading burn,after reading yeah, like it's it's one
of those things where I'm like,why have I not burned this? But

(03:21):
maybe maybe you know when I'm gone, who cares? When you're a New
York Times bestseller because of this?It works exactly exactly, But we don't
need to broadcast them until I'm longgone. There's a lot of second guessing
in the book, a lot ofsecond guessing yourself in the book. What
advice would you have to to peoplethat are still second guessing themselves to this
day? Do it anyway? Andthat's the thing is that is that you

(03:44):
don't get better, You don't improve, You don't gain more confidence by thinking
about being better or gaining more confidence. You get it by doing. You
get it by by understanding that you'regoing to feel like this. But the
only way to kick it is todo it. And I think that's what
we're always battling against. And peoplewill use that as an excuse. Well,
I don't feel confident enough, Idon't feel ready. It's not the

(04:06):
right time. I wait until I'mmore prepared but if you're waiting, then
you're always going to be waiting.But the thing is is that when you
go out and you try a lotof the times you realize that you had
nothing to be scared about, Youhad no reason to second guess anything.
Or maybe that second guessing really justhelps you because it means that you are

(04:30):
more prepared, or you are moreaware, or you try harder when you
need to try harder. Sometimes youtry too hard and you learn and you
try and you succeed, and youfail, and you try again and you
fail again and you succeed. Andit's just this dance that you're constantly going
through that we're all going through.That's just life. And it's about not

(04:53):
sitting on the sidelines. It's notletting that voice in your head get to
you or the external voices that aretelling you can't be done. It's never
been done. You're not good enough, you're not this enough, you're not
whatever. It's saying. Well,I'm alive, so let me try.
I think that one of the morefascinating stories that you have in the book
is early on when you decide totake the plane trips to Vancouver. You

(05:13):
talk about your brother's note that youkind of told you don't open this till
you're on the plane, But youdid make a little mention of having a
CD player. We don't have totalk about the note because the notes in
the book. Yeah, what CDwere you listening to? Oh? Can
you West? Really? Yeah?Yeah? Call it shop yeah yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. And so the thingwas was that fergel burned that that

(05:38):
CD for me classic by the way, And so when I like, when
I listen to those songs, ittakes me back and I remember like driving
through the countryside of Japan listening tothese songs like through the Wire and all
that, and so it yeah,it always, it always brings me back
and has a special place in myheart. Isn't that amazing with music that

(06:00):
the moment you hear a song,it transports you back to like a certain
part of your life, for betteror worse, exactly. Grace, you
mentioned the script in your book orBreak your Heart's Breaking, even the big
song that they had, which anytimeI hear that song, I get transported
back to de Mouaine, Iowa.I did radio on Deuine Iowa. Oh
wow, yeah, so this isweird Iowa connection. What are your thoughts,
your thoughts on Iowa as someone whois who lives there. It has

(06:27):
corn, it's cute. Yeah,yeah, there's some great coffee there three
ninety two, big shout out,great wrestling school, a great grandma for
my baby, and and and we'vegot my husband's whole family there and so
that's lovely. And then the cornin the summer is so fresh, and

(06:49):
that's lovely. And there's not abunch of hills, so if you go
out for a run, you don'thave to run off for a long drive.
It feels even longer because nothing's happeningin your perif because it's all open
field. I've done the drives.Girl, it sucks. And there's lots
of There's lots of corn fields though, so you never know, like a

(07:11):
little creepy toddler could come out ofthem at any point, and that's exciting.
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, something that caught my eye in
the book. And you mentioned Furbolebefore, who just Finn Balor to those
that they may not know, AndI'm gonna read this verbatim. I had
simultaneously become demanding, clingy and tooscared of losing him. Whether that was
a result of ego or insecurity.How long did it take for you to
come to grips with that emotion,because at the time you don't feel it,

(07:32):
like you don't realize that that's what'shappening. Yeah, but how long
did it take for you to realize, like, oh shit, I was
kind of self sabotaged. Oh ah, gosh. Probably probably a few years,
you know what I mean, Probablya few years, and maybe I
would have been aware enough to lookback and realize what I've done. But

(07:53):
maybe I was just pointing the fingerat everybody. But then as you grow
up, you go, oh mygod, I can't believe that was his
experience. Oh my god, itwas the worst, the poor lot,
you know. But this is thethings that you go through as a teenager
and growing up. But I thinkwe all do that. We all,
we are all we all have thosemoments where we're like, oh my god,

(08:15):
I can't believe I acted like that. I can't believe I thought this
was gonna be the end of theworld. And isn't that Isn't that like
wild in regards to like, you'reso young In one sense, based on
your book, you're very free justdo what you want party girl, if
you will a little bit. Andthen on this other hand, you're just
completely like crestfallen because this guy isbreaking your heart. Yes to you?

(08:39):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean Iremember, like, like the first guy
I was into, we we wereboyfriend and girlfriend. I say that in
quotations for thirteen days, and Ijust remember like waking up and being like,
no, my heart is never goingto repair. I'm never going to
find anybody better than him, youknow, thirteen days. You know,

(09:01):
like you just but how great wasit to feel those emotions like that when
you were a teenager? So,I mean, obviously looking back, whether
it's the Fergile breakup or another partthat caught my eye on your book,
wanting to make it to the bigtime, which was TNA at the time,
you said, I wanted to validatemyself as being worthy and make him
want me back. Yeah. Whatadvice would you have for that heartbroken nineteen

(09:22):
year old girl? Oh my gosh, Never try to fix yourself to fit
to have somebody else fit into yourlife. God, never try to fix
yourself to make somebody else fit intoyour life, Like if it's for your
betterment, like if you were awareof things that you do that are self
sabotaging. But you know, ifif the shoe doesn't fit, must we
change the foot? No, youknow, we can't change the foot.

(09:46):
We just buy new shoes and inyour case, dope shoes. Dope shoes.
I've spoke about this with Charlotte Flair, I've spoke about this with Sorea
King. Troy's impact on the wrestlinggame as a whole, I mean,
what's love talk. Take us alittle bit behind the scenes, if you
will, for you know a littlebit of how that all came about.

(10:07):
Gosh. I think did he really? I think he reached He reached out
to me in like twenty nineteen andsaid that he wanted to work with me.
And I had seen him work withCarmela and with Sasha and he was
dressing them fantastically, and and sohe reached out, and well, instantly
I just loved him because he's solovely and he loves wrestling, but he's

(10:30):
so passionate about what he does.He's so into it, and he works
so hard. And having somebody likethat on your team is always amazing.
And you know that he's always goingto have your back, He's always going
to come through for you. Andhe's going to come through in a big
way. And he really has changedthe fashion game of ww W. You're

(10:52):
no longer going out there in yourmerch for seventeen consecutive weeks because that's all
that they have for him, Iknow. But it was also you know
that, well two things. Thenyou're selling a T shirts and that's great,
But the other thing is that Ihad no clue how to dress.
You know, I had no cluehow to dress. And I was uncomfortable
with my body, you know,and so I didn't know how to shop

(11:15):
for my body. And I wasalso you know, I grew up poor.
I did not know where to goother than thrift stores, and I
would go to Ross Dress for less. I talk about that a lot in
the book, but you know Iwouldn't. I'd be like, wait,
this shirt is fifty dollars. Whatmakes it fifty dollars? I can find

(11:35):
it for three somewhere else, youknow what I mean? Like I was
scared to spend money, but alsojust didn't like I had no clue.
I had no clue what I wasdoing Shifting gears a little bit. This
is called the Superstar Crossover because mylast guest had a question for you,
and my last guest pops up inyour book. Sammy's aye. Oh,
he wanted to know. The TVcameras are not there, the production is

(11:56):
not there. It's naked. It'sjust the crack. It's just the art.
And I guess, you know,I don't know. I'm curious about
how important that art is. Thecraft is. Where does the actual craft
of wrestling rank in your list ofperformance? Because obviously, as a performer,
your your looks, your fashion,hard camera, making sure you're entertaining

(12:18):
the crowd. But the actual craftof wrestling, where does a rank in
your list of importance? Number two? Okay, number one is storytelling.
Number one is storytelling because that's ain'tnobody gonna care what you do in the
ring if you have not told agood story, nobody's gonna And we tell

(12:41):
like there's a line that's that saysa promo is a match in the match
is a promo, right, Soyou tell a story during during the match,
But to know what the story you'retelling in the match, that's so
that comes before the craft, beforethen gritty, before you get down to
that. That's number one. Andthen and then the craft of the actual

(13:07):
wrestling, of understanding it, ofunderstanding what's going to to elicit a response,
what's going to be easy for thefor the audience to follow too,
because you don't want to be doingall this technical stuff and everybody's going,
wait, what, what's happening?What's happened? We do this for an
audience. We don't do it forus. We do it for them.

(13:30):
And if they're not following it andwe're we're doing it because we think it's
interesting and it's so cool, andthen ain't nobody's gonna care? And then
why are you doing it in thefirst place? You know what I mean?
Of course, our next guest couldbe anyone from your locker room,
aw anyone from around the world.Do you have a question for them?
What do you want the audience toknow about you? What do you want

(13:52):
the audience to know about you goinginto WrestleMania That I'm gonna give them my
all because I always give them.And this is the most Rocky Balboa story
of all time. And I've alwaysidentified as Becky Balboa. And you look
at somebody like Raya Ripley and she'sshe's a maid superstar man, she was
made for this, born for this. I wasn't born for this. I

(14:16):
fought for this. And when Igo out there, I have a chip
on my shoulder that I have toprove myself every single time. I have
never taken a night off. I'venever taken it easy. I treat every
match like it's the most important matchthat I've ever had. But this is
the most important match that I've everhad, and it's one of the biggest

(14:37):
matches that I've ever had. Andgoing into Philadelphia with that spirit, with
that heart, with that determination,knowing a lot of people are doubting me,
that a lot of people don't wantme to win this, that just
makes me all the more hungry.Now, the people that love you are
your fans, And we got acouple of minutes left, so I'll quickly

(15:00):
go through fan questions that I gotUm Mayra Cherry, I believe her name
is. I'm sorry if I gotyour name wrong. How do you want
the world to remember you when it'sall said and done. There's a game
changing hmm. I love that changethe game goddamn right, brol Yeah,
continue to I have a friend namedJamie DeFalco on Staten Island, who is

(15:20):
a mother of two stay at homemother too, And I'm gonna verbatim this
is what it does. How thefuck do you juggle being a WWE superstar
and being a mom Because I couldbarely get out of bed right now to
do the mom part. Well,I'll tell you what I think. What
she does is a lot harder thanwhat I do. I do, hands
down, hands down, being astay at home mother is much harder than
what I do because you don't haveany time off, when you don't have

(15:45):
any space for yourself. When Igo into the building and I start talking
about wrestling, that's my me time. That is the thing that I'm passionate
about. That is and of courseyou're passionate about looking after your kids.
You love your kids, but everythingis to serve them. That is way
harder than what I do, becauseI have the piece of me that was

(16:07):
me before I was a mother,And when you're a mother, your whole
identity changes because you're no longer themost important thing in your world. You're
not. Your child is and italways will be. And that's wonderful and
that's brilliant, but you almost haveto grieve the person and the life that
you lived before that, and Iget to still live it, and I
still get to have that part ofme. So I think what she does

(16:30):
is so much harder than what Ido. You mentioned grieving, which is
a fascinating word to use, becauseto an extent, I mean, I
think you're right. I recently becamea father. Oh congratulations, thank you.
Also, by the way, it'sthe best, Like it's also the
best five and a half months old, we're both raised. You and I
will have badass daughters in a fewyears. Yea beyond, have you thought

(16:52):
about what sports you want to putyour daughter in? We have her in
gymnastics. Okay, we have herin gymnastics. I think that's just a
great overall fundamental understanding your body.I always wanted to do gymnastics, but
my mom wouldn't let me. Shewas too scared. Too much fucking money,
does it? I mean, we'rewe're in Iowa's kind of it's it's

(17:15):
it's fair, it's very it's verychanging. Yeah, it's great, it's
great. And so I shan't gointo competitions or anything right now, but
but I always wanted to do gymnasticswhen I was a kid, but my
mom was too scared of me beinghurt, getting hurt. Oh the irony,
I was gonna say. You talkabout that a lot in your book,

(17:37):
which is available right now. Notyour average average girl, Becky Lynch,
thank you so much for stopping byher. Thank you for having me.
Appreciate you, girl,
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