TTMT w Eric Stone

I had the opportunity to sit down with abolitionist Eric Stone.  We cover his history and how he inadvertantly became an activist on racisim.  It's such a great conversation. For more information on his work see link below.


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Episode Transcript

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Get Your Girl Toy aka Chocolate Divinity, and welcome to Talk to Me Toy
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the Interviews. All right, guys, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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welcome to an edition of the TalkTo Me Toy podcast. And today
my guest that joins us is EricStone. So, Eric Stone, you
do not know this man, Iwill. Eric. Do you consider yourself
as a civil rights activist? Whatyou say? I mean, you could
say that I'm more like, uhuh an abolitionist against my own people for

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the bullshit, But yeah, youcould say, you can say civil rights
activist. Well come on now,all right, So I've been watching you
for a little while on social mediaand it took me a little bit to
really like cause, you know,with all the stuff going on, especially
when it comes to this race thing, you don't really know who you can
trust all of the time, andyou got to wait and see if you

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know, if they can, ifthey stand on what they're saying. Are
you doing this just to be ayou know, part of the culture or
the community. But the way youhandle these clapbacks, Eric, I've never
seen anything like it, like whatyou are fighting, and you handle it
with such grace. There's no angerbehind it. It's literally just putting up

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a a mirror to oneself and you'relike, look at yourself, now,
explain that run back back, Eric, I want to get into who are
you, Where did you even comefrom? And why did you take this
up as your mission? So thisis not what I've planned on doing with
my life at all. This isthis is this is was literally not even

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on my mind. I strongly believethis is what God put me on this
earth to do. When I whenI I was a nomad my whole life,
right, so like we moved aroundevery six months to two years and
Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, China, the Philippines, throughout Europe, just

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everywhere, right, And so whenI got older, I built a media
company and it became I lived inmy car for like three years, I
was homeless and everything like that,and then it became very successful to where
I had my dream apartment in Manhattan. I had a studio in New York,
a studio in La I had tenemployees. I was like doing my

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thing right, and I went frombeing homeless and having no money to having
so much money. I didn't knowwhat to do and I was burnt out.
I was like this like twenty twentyhappened, and I was just like,
I don't even give a fuck aboutwhat I'm doing. Nothing to me,

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and and all my friends were like, man, you you really good
at speaking on this this other stuff, because when we go out, or
when I would go on dates withblack women, or when I would be
out with my friends or whatever thecase may be, I'd be calling people
out for the bullshit and they're like, you're really good at this. You
should be doing this. And Iwas like, you know, that's that's

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some you know, those those aresome waters you don't really want to touch
because you don't want to look aslike a white savior or you know anything
in that kind of context. Right, So I was like fuck it.
So long story short, I usedup all my savings and I went all

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in and I lost all my myapartment, I lost my car, my
credit, went the ship, everything, and I didn't care. I was
more happy doing this than when Iwas doing the other ship. And then
it got to a point where peopleare like, yo, you got to
eat. And that's that's when whenand I know I'm long winded, but

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when people ask me why do Ido this? I reevaluate my life throughout
it. And I was like,Oh, God was using me as a
pond to let me go through allthese life experiences, whether dealing with the
cops or racism or being privileged inwhite and not only this country, but

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all around the fucking world. Andthen he put me in a place where
he was like, this is whatyou need to be doing. Stop resisting
it and just go with it.And I guarantee you you will be very
happy with the results of what's aboutto happen. Oh that is beautiful.

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Talk about walking in your purpose.And I feel like so many of us
afraid to when God is telling youthe entire time, and we look at
it like it's flukes, Like oh, it's just something I like to do,
it's a hobby. No, baby, that's what you're supposed to be
doing. And I thought again somany years, so shit, listen and
it's like, I'm a firm believer, and you got to be thankful for
the delays because a lot of timesthe delays are God's protection and then everything

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happens in divine alignment, like itin divine timing. If you had done
this ten years ago, it mightnot have had the same you know,
impact as it does today. Absolutely, or I want to be prepared for
mentally or physically at all, Comeone talk about it. So I wanted
to get into now you said,which, I think that's a commonality that

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we have, which which is probablywhy we can see things a bit different.
You moved around a lot as akid, so I grew up as
a military brad, so which meanswe live like I've lived amongst the one
percent and you know the hood wheremy cousins we go back to the hoods
in southwest Philadelphia and we're throwing youknow, rocks at people. So do
do you think that that has helpedyou to see the world in a different

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way? Yeah, Because I mean, I'm originally from I'm originally from Oklahoma,
right, and even though I grewup inside my my friend came up
in this place, but I originallyam from Oklahoma and everything like that.
And when you grew up there,even though it was like on and off,

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you saw the world as one way, like I used to be like,
oh, yeah, the Confederate flag, Like that's the cool thing.
It's on the car, it's onthe dukes of passer. That's a cool
fucking flag. And then I traveledand I was like, wait, I
don't even know why I like thisflag. I was just totally like the
flag. And then and then yourealize everything that you've been taught was indoctrinate

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into you, whether or not justfrom family and everything, but like from
like friends and co workers and everything. And then you're like, wait,
I don't even know why I believein this stuff I believe in I'm just
being told to believe in this stuffwithout even questioning it. And so when
I traveled, I was like,wait, I like different culture, I
like different food, I like differentpeople. I don't know what the fuck

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these people are complaining about. It'sall white people there. You ain't got
no Mexicans coming over, and they'retaking your jobs. Why you complain about
them. People get comfortable in theirsocieties and they are programmed to see their
reality but not the world's reality.And when you only see the world from

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your point of view, you haveno idea how to look on the other
side of the fence and see itfrom a completely different viewpoint, because you're
stuck in your ways. And that'swhy they call me like a trader,
like a irs trated, because they'relike, why would you, why would
you betray your own people? Andit's not about betraying your own people.

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It's going, hey, what you'redoing is not okay. And if you
just open your damn eyes and seethe from a completely different viewpoint, you
will realize it's a way happier place. And I'm telling you, the food
is better. Shut the fuck up, like over there. Yeah, like

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like the amount of unseasoned steaks andpotato I had to eat. I was.
I was. I went to myfirst season Thanksgiving and I was just
like, I've been missing out mywhole fucking life. I was missing out.
I was so mad and and andand and and that's all it is

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that I do. It's it's andI know among with it with my answers.
I apologize mister long meet missus longwinded, because tis I you've met
your tribe here? Okay, okay, good good. But the question yeah
absolutely helped me out because otherwise,if I didn't, if I didn't,
I would be the same person inthat community. Even though I traveled throughout

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my life, Oklahoma was like theborn place of me, and I would
have ended up stuck back there,married with kids and all this other stuff,
and I would have been just likeeverybody else there. It's so crazy
for you to say that mind setlike Oklahoma, but we all know that's
where Tulsa happened. And to knowthat even in the time of you were

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growing up, It's like, didthey learn anything from Tulsa, Oklahoma?
But that's just no. It's storyafter story after story, and you will
see that. You would think peoplewould learn from the past. That's a
beautiful thing about history because it hadthe tendency to repeat itself and maybe not
in the same way, but youcan learn from it. And I feel
like it's something when it comes tothis racism thing. I don't know if

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people want to turn a blind eyeinto it, but if you really want
to attack it and make change,you have to get involved. I mean,
why would change it not because youoff, why would they want to
change it if they benefit from thesystem. Well that is true. So
with that, that's so funny becauseyou answered like you brought up one of
the questions that I have so withthat, as they benefit to the system

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and they hold the status quo,do you ever see it changing for the
better? Yes and no. Uh, you see it changing, but there's
extreme resistance, like in Dallas,Like there was a country club in Dallas.
The first black man that was tryingto get in and he's a billionaire,
was trying to get it since thenineties and he didn't get finally admitted

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until twenty fourteen. It's changing,but there's a lot of resistance to it
because they fear that black people andbrown people will do under them what they
didoined to them, And it's notthe truth. It's not it's Black people
are the most love, caring andforgiving people on this fucking planet. And

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it's a weakness at the same time, because you can be too forgiven into
accepting, which is why you knowyou can invite the wrong people. But
at the same time, if whitepeople realize they ain't the scary person that
the media portrays them to be,and they're not gainst the thug that is

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going to rob you and rape yourwife. If you get past that and
realize that just a human being,and they want to eat and dance and
laugh and have a good time,take care of their family. You would
get rid of this boogeyman that youfear so much. And that's what I
say all of the time. LikeI'm not saying you got to have them
over, whether it's black or white, have people into your home over for

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dinner. But to me in twentytwenty four, to not be surrounded by
anybody else that looks other than yourself, you're not. You're doing a dessert
to the world and to yourself,to your family. Like I just feel
like that is an excuse in twentytwenty four, when we have the power
of the internet, you can goand look some stuff up if you want

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to, so I don't. Butthe thing is is is I've done stories
on white people that do have blackfriends and all their friends are black,
or they have a wife, wellthey have a excuse me when they have
a black husband or whatever the kidsmay be, and they still be in
these racist Facebook groups or seeing shitbehind their back because they'll and then I

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pull it out like there's a kidnamed Jacob and he's a college student,
and you worked for JP Morgan andI blew his story up so fast.
JP Morgan reached out to me andhis university. Come on, he every
photo was with him with black friends. You would not think he would be

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racist, and the he said themost horrendous racist shit that you could possibly
think of. So what's not evenabout hanging around black people? It's it's
it's changed in a complete mindset ofwhat these people actually think of you.
Mm hmm. No, you areabsolutely correct when it comes to that.

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Now I want to get into otherwhite people today. Does it shock you
that you get so much pushback fromother whites? Like I've been watching your
stuff for a while, and theway they just get on and attack you
for no reason. I love whenyou even come up when it comes to
exclusively dating black women, like you'llsay, I never said anything horrible about

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black women about white women at all? How could I? Because I come
from a white woman. But youwill get that pushback. You've never said
anything disrespectful. So how does thattruly like affect you? Because these are
I mean, we're all God's people, We're all God's children, but unfortunately
we subscribe to this thing called separatay, separatism and race, and that's just

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the way of the world. Sohow does it make you feel or how
do you deal with it inside?Oh, if you look back my first
videos, I was I was angrya lot because when I dated white women,
no problem. When I dated Asianwomen, no problem. When I
did in US, no problem.All of a sudden, I dated a

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black woman. Now, my firstgirlfriend, let me clarify, in seventh
grade was a black girl. HIt was the first girl I ever asked
out. And everybody gave me resentmentfor that too, because they were trying
to set me up with like thewhite girl, lead cheerleader, Boom Britney,
and yeah, she was cute,she was hot, you know for
seventh graders and everything like that.But I wanted the black girl, and

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I said every single day, andpeople were like, but why. And
then I got older and then moreserious stuff would happen, and I was
just like, okay, so I'mgonna take this from me, and this
is this is where I understand blackpeople a little bit more, because I'm

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never gonna fully understand because I'm stilla white man, so I'm never gonna
have the full experience. But datingblack women, I went from being dislike
always angry at my people for theirbullshit. To now I'm like, you
know what, I went to adark place dealing with it to now I
turn it into humor. Hm.That's why black people can make everything funny.

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That's why they're the most entertaining comedic. They sing the best, they
have soul in their music. Theydance and you feel it the ground shakes
because they have this I don't knowthe right word for it, but they
have this emotion that you can't buy, that you can't create, that you

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can't and you can't do anything withit. You have to fully understand.
I wasn't this funny in my videostwo three years ago. This is completely
revolutionary for me. Like I wasa classic lown in high school and stuff,
but like I wasn't. I wasn'tfucking being this petty go ahead,

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go ahead, No, It's like, oh, I own it? Would
that not this petty? Keep goingfrom now? I'm mad petty because I'd
be going through all their profile Likethere's this white woman that I called out
and she was her husband said Ilove in words and bum on his T
shirt. And then I found outthat she was fucking black man. Oh
yeah, girl, what happened,I'd be finding all their dirt because I'm

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just like, okay. Instead ofme just yelling at you and trying to
preciate to you when it's like mescreaming at a brick wall, I'm just
going to expose you and make itas funny as hell as hell and embarrass
you to the foot extent to where, oh, you're the laughing stock of
society. Yes, because you findmost of these people you go up against,
the intelligence factor is just not there. And the way that you hold

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them to be accountable, it's liketalking in circles, and the way you
just stand on it, like nah, what did you say? Remember?
Like talk about it. Let's breakit down, Let's bring it down the
root of it. And if peoplecould only see the the behind the scenes
of these long phone calls, theirjobs will drop because these phone calls they

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see clippers of, like you know, two three minutes of it go on
for two three, four five hours, and a lot of them. There's
a lot of white people that hateme, but there's also a lot of
white people that reach out to meand they apologize or they want to think
me because I changed their perspective andall this. These are the conversations people
don't seem converted Nazis and white supremacistsand everything. I wish people can see

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that because they only see the negative. And people are like, why do
you approach it the way you approachit? Why is it always negative?
Why is it always like you know, why do you got to like compare
white women to fucking animals and puta giraffe next to this, Well,
well, she looks like a fuckinggiraffe. And two, don't be a
racist ass bitched hello? But three? Right? But three. I do

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it because it injects fear into themand it makes them go, oh,
I don't want to be embarrassed likethis person. I don't want to be
ostracized like this person has because theyhave gone viral on social media and now
they're struggling to get work or nouniversity wants to accept them as a student,

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or whatever the case may be.I want to change my ways because
if you fear the ability to makemoney and take care of your family,
that's when you change and adapta society'sways to attack their pockets. And you're
doing it the right way. Andit's sad that you have to be shamed

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into not being racist. But hey, if that's what it takes, hopefully
you learn something from this and we'llchange your behavior later on down the line.
That's it. Yeah, that's okay. So I definitely wanted to get
into So you talked about all rightwhen it comes to your dating life,
I know you want to go thetimeline and you said you dated different races.

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Now you are exclusively dating black women. Is that because of the backlash
that you got from people so much? Like basically, you know what they
say, you always want what youcan't have, or it's like, oh,
tell me no, and I'm gonnago after it harder. No.
I could see how people see Icould see how people can see them.

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I've always been attracted to black women. First girlfriend was black, and I
got resistance for it. I datedwhite women because society was telling me to
day white women. Why I gotnothing against them, right, Yeah,
Mom's and white. I love mymama, love my sisters, I love
my cousins. Beautiful white women.Okay, However, I prefer black women.

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I like me some masks, Ilike, I like a little soul.
I like I like and it's notjust the body. It's not just
physical. It's the mind. Andblack women have this ability to lead.
And I like I like people beingthe best of themselves. And when you

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have to constantly look at me foranswers, even though I'm going to have
them, it's unattracted to me.M And I like somebody who can take
charge of the situation or uh canhandle their own in a situation. And
I can be with, you know, with my day at a bar,

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and if the guy hits on her, I'm not worried about it, no
one. I know she ain't gonnado anything with you because I'm fine as
fuck. He's like, you seethese apps. You see these dumples don't
pay. But two, if youtry anything, she will kick your ass.

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And if you take your too far, then I'm gonna kick your ass.
So that's the type of relationship Ilike. I don't like submissive.
I like women being submissive when theywant to be submissive, and when they
find the right man, they aresubmissive for that man. But these men

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try to make them submissive when theycan't even pay their rent. And it's
like, why am I going toit to you when you can't even pay
your own fucking bills? Why baby, give me something to submit to.
Mm hmmm. So why would anywoman put herself in that position? And
so when it comes to black women, I just like their ability to take

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over. And look at statistics.If you look at small businesses, black
women run that shit. They arenumber one in their fields. They are
number one, in education, theyare number one, and voting there number
one. Everything. Black women lifteverybody up, and then everybody disrespects them.

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Always work force to pay, atleast pay the most disrespected shall and
we keep it running. But mostcopies hello mm hmmm, white women about
black women get they're the first onesto swipe their credit cards to look just
like them. Hm. White womenbe scrolling through there, I've seen it.
White women be scrown through their Instagramlooking at black women's profiles and copying

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their looks, their styles, theway they do everything, everything, and
then they talk about them as ifthey ain't doing it. Come on,
how how it's a it's an inferiorcomplex. They fear the blueprints because they
can't be as good as the blueprints. So if I can't be as good
as you, I got to bringyou down to make myself look better.

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Oh horrible mm hmm so people,uh uh question? Oh uh, you
only gave black women. I lovewomen in juneral updated a woman, updated,
White women, updated, Latino women, updated black women. I just
prefer black women. But if Isee a fine white woman walking down the

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street ahead, respect, I goteyes, I got Oh you don't like
black women, Well, then inmy perspective, you don't like women in
general, and you you you reallyout the class. You need to come
out the close about that. I'mon, Now, that's what you really
want, what you really want talkingabout? Because it's a woman's body.

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What the fuck you're talking about?It's as to these it's a woman's perfection
and and and I know I've beenpersonal. I don't know. I know.
Good. Look it's not on air, it's podcasting. So I love
authenticity and keeping it real. Soreyou good, Frank. I'm just like,
as a woman's body, like,why are you secluding certain groups of

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women, like because the wrong skincomplexion? Stupid? Stupid stupid. Now,
Eric, I do want to askyou, because you are a white
man and you come from a whitefamily, how do you do you have
any conflict when you do bring aother than around or just a black woman,
Like, give us that time thefirst time you brought a black woman

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to dinner, Like, how didit go? No, my dad dated
black woman. My dad went toan all black high school. Uh he
he lived during integration. His dadwas a cop. They lived in an
all black neighborhood. He didn't everpull his trigger one time. I know,

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I can scrutinize cous for the bullshitbecause they lived in one of the
most dangerous neighborhoods and they didn't havea problem one time his entire career,
So I know all that's bullshit.But two, No, I've got interracial
marriages of my family. There's oneuncle that I've I've been told about.

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My family's really big, like mymy grandfather, he's passed away RP.
His mother had like fourteen kids.So there's the majority of my family.
I don't know. There's one storyI know where apparently my uncle who I've
never met, had a son whomarried a black woman and need disown them.

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But that's the only one I know. I've never had any issue with
the type of woman I dated.That's never It was more like former friends
who are no longer friends, orjust going out to places and dealing with
it. But like within my family, yes, they never had a problem.
And see that's beautiful and that's goodthat we have that context, which

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is why because you weren't raised thatway, like you come from a father
who was raised around black people.Because again, that's one of the biggest
things I needed to find out moreabout you. I'm like, what is
going on, what is the behindthe scenes, where does this man come
from? What is the you know, the correlation or the real experience.
So that's a beautiful thing that yourfather already had experience with this. And

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like we said, racism is learned. No kids are born racist. It's
at home. So for your homelife to that not had been a thing
beautiful to both of your parents forraising an upstanding human. Absolutely, yes,
it's beautiful. Okay, we're notgoing to stay on too much longer,
but I'm loving this conversation. Icould go all day, but I
wanted to get into your accountability becauseyou were not. Again, it's nice

(27:18):
that you are an ally and yougo speak up for black people and you
do it in such a beautiful smartway, but there are some times you
do have hiccups. So because you'renot really of the like, you're of
the culture, but you're not fromfrom the culture. You didn't grow up
in our households. So you hada little hiccup with the the word boy,

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and it seemed like somebody had to, you know, kind of put
you put that in context and whatit means. So how do you deal
with that? When that did Idid, that was a while, That
was like a that was almost ayear ago. If I'm not yep,
so so you're doing to me andwhat I do to other people, come
down? You got use you onyou? You auld okay? All right?

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So that she does her research Ericover what so where people? So
for me and I put I putup a public apology and everything that for
the context of the story was therewas a young black man who was like
eighteen, right, who had aracist uber driver, and I said,

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we need to help this uh blackboy out. Let's go the poor them.
In my mind, boy, isuh anybody under any man that's under
twenty five h Mentally, in mymind, you're whether you're white, Black,

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Latina, Asian, whatever, inmy mind, you're still not a
man. No matter how much evenwhen I was twenty one, I felt
like I was a man, andI still wasn't a man, yes,
right, at a boy mindset.So I use the word term boy as
not as a like a like tryingto dehumanize or like, you know,

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downgrade him as a human being.But I was using as he's eighteen years
old. I can't call a fifteenyear old a man. Now, now
that I've learned, you know thehistory of the word boy and how white
people use the word boy to dehumanizethem and everything. Now I don't do
it because even though my intent isn'ttoo like, you know, use that

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word boy as way to do it. And now I see other white people
how they do a boy you better, and I see it now, so
I don't care if they're ten yearsold. I'm going to call the young
man over boy. Yeah, that'sfunny because that's a the history, or
at least in the States, there'llbe a lot of black men named sir,

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and a lot of times they hadto name their kids sir to basically
say, you are going to respectme as a person, So no matter
what, you have to call mesir because that is my name. So
but I love that you took thataccountability and it didn't seem like you answered,
because I feel like when it comesto stuff like that, people get
so caught up. But that's notwhat I meant. Okay, that is

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understood. We know that's not whatyou meant. But this is the fact,
and you have to be accepting ofthis is what it means. Absolutely,
And how am I gonna make peopleaccountable for their bullshit if I can't
be accountable for my own some one? Yes, yes, okay, I'm
gonna wrap this. I could againbe talking forever, but I know you
gotta go. You got things.What did you say? You're in where

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you are, where you want locationright now? So I'm inve know how
I got called out. I can'twell I don't know if I can't,
but I don't want to put herout like that, but I can.
It's a very famous mother whose sonwas killed by the cops. It's a
very known story. But I don'twant to say who. I get it,

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but I know what you're alluding to. We get it. Yeah,
And she reached out to me tohelp out with their situation. She's building
a nonprofit organization on a foundation forher son, and she wanted me helping
out with the social media side andproducing content and everything like that, and

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so I said, yeah, sure, So I flew out and that's what
I'm working on. That's beautiful.Please keep doing the good work being an
ally. I'll tell you the thing, the one post that you did that
kicked off this interview, Like,I'm like, I have to reach out
to Eric, and you say,if black children are old enough to experience
racism, white children are old enoughto learn about it. And to me,

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that is just the key to somewhatfix this thing. Like people are
out here living it. If atleast you're be thankful that you don't have
to live it, but how aboutyou try to, you know, at
least empathize. You will never gothrough with these people go through, but
you can be an ally. Andthe way you be an ally is you
learn about it. Check people.When you hear the bs happening around you,

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especially within your friend group, saysomething. Don't let it slide.
That's it. Mm hmm. SoEric, I just want to thank you
so much. I feel like Ican, you know, can watch your
content with a bit more ease nowbeing that I have you know, some
foundation now of who you are asa person. Eric, I'm going to
say this, please, you arepart of my three white people list to

(32:37):
where if I find some racist ishhappening, I'm going to be heartbroken.
So it's Eric Stone, it's TomHanks, and it's Kevin Costner. Those
are my treat like a lot ofsomething. Come out with Tom Hanks.
Take me out of here. Idon't want to live no more dumb stories

(32:58):
on them. I'm like, damnnot you too, like so I just
want to I do want to addthis. I do want to add this
thing. And and I don't everwant people to think because white people be
like, oh, who made youthe voice for black people? All boom?
I don't speak for black people.I'm not exposed for a person for

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black people. I'm not the leaderof black people. They got enough of
that they got. They got gottheir own black men and women who leads
speak and uplift and organize and andand put everything together to bring their people
together and and and uh move themup in this society. Right. Uh.

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I am just here to call outmy own people for their bullshit and
and hold them accountable and educate them. That's it. I do not speak
for black people. I do noteducate black people. I do not lead
black people. I let them dotheir thing. I'm on the white side

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because it's white people's job to cleanup the fucking mess they started. I'm
one, Eric, that's it.Yep, you are correct. I say
this all the time, like,we did not create this system. We
cannot fix it the ones who createdit. You have to be the one
to fix it and to constantly cometo us because I've had, you know,
twenty twenty kicked off so much stuff. People are like, oh,

(34:29):
well, what what can I do? What can I do? And I'm
like, what, why are youputting me up right now? I don't
know? You created this? Fixit? You see the stuff, you
know what's right and wrong, dosomething about it. Yep. And I
don't care. You'd be like,oh, you didn't own slaves, you
didn't, Okay, Yeah, butyou voted for politicians to keep systems in
place to benefit you in a pressofficer, and let's be clear, that's

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laid money. It's still matriculating tillthis day, so stop it. Yep
mm hmm. Well, ladies andgentlemen, Eric Stone, you know you
are family at this point. Thankyou so so much for being available and
joining in on the Talk to MeToy podcast. It has truly been a
pleasure, and I hope this won'tbe our last time conversing Eric. I

(35:10):
absolutely no. I like you alot, I like your energy, I
like how you reached out and everythinglike that. So you've got my contact
information, so anytime you want tohave a conversation, hit me up.
Perfect, we'll do the follow up. Eric, have an amazing day and
thank you so so much. Well, no, thank you anytime, friend,

(35:30):
have a good one.