April 25, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The Andy Average Show, punch out, get in your cars,
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Dylan Emery.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I am the host of the Fanatics here on Ticket
seven sixty every Sunday morning from ten am to twelve pm,
bringing you your sports church before you possibly go to
church or wherever you.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Go on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So you can follow me on Twitter at BC Sports Dat.
You can also follow the Fanatics as well at the
Fanatics on Twitter. Free plug, free shout out. I get
to do that since I'm filling in along with Mike today.
Mike is still here. He's dealing with me. He's a longhorn.
I'm a sooner. Well, we still get along somehow, Jiln
Shane Carter, who's a techie tech.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Fan, somehow we get along.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I like Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I actually get you know, one of those days I
think I went on a rant complimenting Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That's for forgiveness. At the end of the show, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
About to say, were you were you inemeriated?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No? You on some o'clock in the morning. Unless I'm
playing golf.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's five o'clock somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So NFL Draft obviously, Team mine is one hour away.
What's gonna be fun at the six o'clock hour, lady
and gentlemen, boys and girls, We're actually gonna get to
bring that to you live a lot of interesting things
the second round, of course, being the way the NFL
is scripted and everything it is. I'm kidding, it's not
Shudorge Sanders still available. Best fit for the Cleveland Browns. Now,
(01:41):
the best available for him is Johnson out of Michigan
right now.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Well, the biggest thing for I believe it's Will Johnson.
But you got to pick at thirty six too.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
The biggest thing for Will Johnson, I believe is he's
coming off the significant knee injury.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If I'm not mistaken, and.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
That's why fine, Well, that's at least what Schefter was
reported yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's why he is. His draft stock.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Was Sanders is coming off of a tush injury because
he's but hurt about not being in the first round.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, yeah, you know what it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I go back to what you said in the last hour.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
This is this is good for him, though it's humble
if he if he uses this the right way.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, If he uses this the wrong way, we're done.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He has to use this in the way of like
when Randy Moss basically told the Cowboys, Hey, this is
what you get in the rest of the league for
not picking me.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I go back to what was it, two thousand five?
What five six?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Remember Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers slipping all the way to
caw from cal slipping all the way to twenty whatever
it was.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Again, I still think Aaron Rodgers is mediocre. You're not
going to change my mind about that. You're not won
Super Bowl you okay, okay, whoa. This just gave me
a good idea here, hold on down, because we've had
this discussion before. Aaron Rodgers first ballot Hall of Famer
yes or no?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Quick yes, Shane yes, Eli Manning No.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Interesting that you would say that, guys, Interesting that you
would say that. I mean Aaron Rodgs Eli Manning played
one team two Super Bowls. Aaron Rodgers is now being
a drifter around the league. But he got one Super Bowl?
Is that because of Green Bay?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
And if I'm not mistaken, Eli Manning fourteen out of
his sixteen years didn't win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But you're gonna tell me that the Giants weren't put
on the map because of one individual player.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
No, they weren't.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
We can get into this Hall Fame had a fantastic
defense those But Aaron Rodgers is a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He is. He's a four time MVP.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
That's why everybody's dying to sign him ever since he
got released from the Jets.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
He also has a winning record, Oh he does, he does.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I wonder why because of coaching or because Aaron Rodgers
ever curious everything? And then Eli won when they were
what nine and seven that one year? Yes, they defeated
an undefeated Patriots team. Yes, yeah, yeah, not a good
quarterback at all. That was all defense. That's what you
all are going to tell me, all right. Pick number
thirty three is the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So we were talking about Johnson and how he is
probably the best available quarterback right now for the Cleveland Browns. Now,
we do know that the Cleveland Browns want to build
their defense. Obviously, you know, you get Garrett in the
off season to stay, you know, because he wants to
win championships.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Everybody has a price.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But here's the problem, and it's not really a problem
because I think Browns fans are sitting here going, well,
it doesn't matter who they pick at this point, because
if the picks stay the same right now, it's Cleveland,
Texans Titans Cleveland. Yeah, so why don't you go ahead
and pick up Johnson first, let Sanders fall just a
(04:57):
little bit more, and then pick them up. Now, if
he doesn't get picked up, my question is this, the
Ratus sit right underneath them. Do you think Pete Carroll,
now that he's there, and now that you've got the
best running back out of everything, do you think you
can go younger with the Raiders? No, and have Sanders
as a possibility back there.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, because remember they traded for Geno Smith and they
also gave Geno Smith an extention.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Cool they let's think about it, because who was the
last quarterback that was supposed to go in the first
round and went in the second round? Somebody anyway, Gino
freaking Smith? Yeah, out of West Virginia. Really cocky, right,
thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He actually showed up to New York.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I think he's probably the only player to walk out
of the second round, right, So, I don't know, you
could see that scenario going out.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I want to play this out because I want to
say that Sanders doesn't get picked by Cleveland. Cleveland says,
you know what, We're not doing it. We're going on
pick it. That's what we want. Where Cleveland we're just dumb. Sorry, Ty,
You've got the Taxans who not Tennessee. They're good. Warren
Moon is even given the blessing. Okay, the Raiders probably
not going to do it. The Patriots not gonna do it. Nope,
(06:16):
the Bears nope. New Orleans Saints pick number forty possibility. Right,
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I could see him there because you could look at
the of the mindset of why they didn't take him
at nine originally was hey, we've got to get you protection.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
We have to, you know, get you weapons. We still
believe in you, but.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
We're gonna get you help first without hindering the team
and giving up a bunch of stuff to try to
do that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So let me ask you this, right, because if New
Orleans was very interested in doing that, don't you think
they would have traded for a last pick with like
either the Chiefs or the Eagles last night knowing that
Cleveland sits at thirty three, because you know New Orlean
is not on the phone right now with Cleveland saying hey,
you want to trade. Here's what I'm thinking. That's going
(07:05):
to be the move of the night. It would be
a chess move and it would be done by the Saints.
Let's say that they stay quiet, right because you know
the war room, you see everybody out there. They're all
monitoring all the other general managers. Hey are you doing anything?
Are you on the phone with New Orleans right now?
You know they're on the phone with Houston, right and
Houston's like, nah, we're good man, Like we're right behind it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But you saw, aren't you scared because Houston did that
pick like that with the Giants?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I was, well, yes and no.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So what's the probability that you go with Sanders first
and let Johnson go away? Even though if you're the
dog Pound and you're Cleveland, you're known for what defense?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, I just think with Cleveland, though obviously they have
the Deshaun wat I don't even say they have Deshaun Watson.
They have Deshaun Watson's contract. That's always going to be
the issue. Now. I know you restructured it this offseason
to help out a little bit, but they're still going
to be paying a lot of money to him. They
(08:08):
traded with U Philadelphia to get they got Kinny Pickett
if I remember correctly, Shane, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, the Brown's got picked.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, the Browns got Picket, and then the Browns send
Dorian Robinson something whatever, right, Philly. I just I don't
see Cleveland taking Chador on at that point because even
if even if he does play, you still have the
(08:37):
one hundred million dollars cap hit that is Deshaun Watson.
They're still screwed. They at this point they have they
still have to go. They still have to go get
more pieces. They need offense, They need a running back.
Maybe they go with running back with one of these
two picks.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
This guy.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Sorry, oh don't yeah, don't even get me started on
mel Kiper.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Mil Kuiper's if Cleveland doesn't draft even though I don't
think they should. Here's where I feel Shadoor is going
to land. With the fortieth pick in the NFL Draft,
the New Orleans Saints select Shadoor Sanders. Now, he's a
fit there because his personality, his personality there, he's humbled today,
(09:22):
he's very humbled today, hope, and in a city that
gives everything to their team, that is a perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Match for Sanders.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I would agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now, do I say that he starts this year right away?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Nope?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well here here, let me ask you this, because obviously
that we got the news a couple of weeks ago,
and I haven't haven't haven't gotten your take on this.
What do you make of the whole Derek Carr situation
just randomly out of nowhere, Hey, Derek carrs shoulder injury.
He may not even be ready or even play this season?
What what is that? Is that a contract thing? Or
(09:56):
is that him saying, hey, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Want to hold out? Yeah? Is it a holdout?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Derek Carr is not happy. Derek Carr is hated in
New Orleans. And it takes a lot for a city
to flip on your quarterback, but for two straight years,
and I get it, they're Drew Brees deprives. Okay, we
got used to the winning with Drew. We got used
to winning with a guy that wasn't ours. Derek Carr
(10:20):
thought he could come in and be breeze, and that
wasn't gonna be breezy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know that's my dad jokes in there.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But the thing is is for Sanders and as much
as I talk about it, and a lot of people
are gonna be like, dude, you're slamming them on social media,
I get it. But for a program, the dude got humbled.
Last night New Orleans said, you know what, We're going
to pick up an offensive lineman. And by the way,
great pickup for New Orleans. Shane makes me think about things.
Kelvin Banks, there was a couple of words in our
(10:49):
little group chat that I cannot mention here that I
said right after the pick because I was expecting Sanders
to go yeah, but maybe all the NFL teams said
hold on and time out again. Not a quarterback draft
this year. This is not a quarterback draft. The other person,
I'll say, maybe we can talk about it on the
other break.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
On the other side, Quinn yours, I don't does that?
Does that guy? Fit in the second round or third round.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I have a feeling he's probably gonna go like fourth,
fourth round.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I have a feeling he's gonna go to I see.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't get the hate. I really don't, or.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know, you brought it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean I hated him for a while.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, you brought it up.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And I just say.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Before the show, obviously the biggest thing is injuries. He's
been injured the past two seasons. Yes, so I guess
that would be the biggest knock. I would say selfishly,
Quinn is a little small, you know, for your typical,
but I usually like his efforts. I use the word
typical in air quotes because everybody NFL scouts is like, oh,
(11:55):
your typical NFL quarterback is supposed to be six', four six'.
FIVE whatever, I Mean drew brees was what six foot?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Pocket, passer yeah he had. To Be isn't sanders known
as a? Pocket? Passer?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah sure door is like six' one six two. To.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Twelve Yeah kellen moore is, offensive guru?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Isn't? HE yeah i mean, for me the biggest Thing
with quinn, is, obviously yes there's the injury prone and
then he worked on it, this year but the. Deep
ball his accuracy on the deep ball was. Not great
he worked on it, this year but it's not where it.
Should BE but i think if he goes in the fourth, round,
somewhere hey at that point you get to learn behind a. Starting,
(12:38):
quarterback absolutely you know who's, To say and this would
absolutely just annoy the heck out.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Of me but who's.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
To Say Maybe andy reid in the fourth round doesn't
go and, get him or.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Nobody's at this man's watch PARTY and i feel sad.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
For.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Him, Tyler, tyler well that's because, you know that's because
everybody's probably out to the early bird dinner Specials.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
At loubie's It's, In.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Scottsdale arizona oh.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Beautiful place you ever? Been?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
THERE no i haven't you hang out with your boy?
Out There? Cliff, kingsbury, YEAH yeah. I.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Wish yeah, all right coming up on the other side of,
the break it's been. A while i want to talk
A little SPURS and i want to talk a little lottery.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And A certain Spurs former.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Spurs birthday that's all next On The Andy every show
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The Andy Average Show, punch out, get in your cars,
let's go home, and let's have a good time as
we get there. Andy is off today. I am in today,
filling you in. Get you on that drive home. Please
be safe driving home. Don't argue with me on the road.
Sometimes you may look a little crazy to other people
when you're driving.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Dylan Emery.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I am the host of the Fanatics here on Ticket
seven sixty every Sunday morning from ten am to twelve pm,
bringing you your sports church before you possibly go to
church or wherever you.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Go on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So you can follow me on Twitter at BC Sports Dat.
You can also follow the Fanatics as well at the
Fanatics on Twitter. Free plug, free shout out. I get
to do that since I'm filling in along with Mike today.
Mike is still here. He's dealing with me. He's a longhorn.
I'm a sooner. Well, we still get along somehow, Jiln
Shane Carter, who's a techie tech.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Fan, somehow we get along.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I like Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I actually get you know, one of those days I
think I went on a rant complimenting Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That's for forgiveness. At the end of the show, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
About to say, were you were you inemeriated?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No? You on some o'clock in the morning. Unless I'm
playing golf.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's five o'clock somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So NFL Draft obviously, Team mine is one hour away.
What's gonna be fun at the six o'clock hour, lady
and gentlemen, boys and girls, We're actually gonna get to
bring that to you live a lot of interesting things
the second round, of course, being the way the NFL
is scripted and everything it is. I'm kidding, it's not
Shudorge Sanders still available. Best fit for the Cleveland Browns. Now,
(01:41):
the best available for him is Johnson out of Michigan
right now.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Well, the biggest thing for I believe it's Will Johnson.
But you got to pick at thirty six too.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
The biggest thing for Will Johnson, I believe is he's
coming off the significant knee injury.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If I'm not mistaken, and.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
That's why fine, Well, that's at least what Schefter was
reported yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's why he is. His draft stock.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Was Sanders is coming off of a tush injury because
he's but hurt about not being in the first round.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, yeah, you know what it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I go back to what you said in the last hour.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
This is this is good for him, though it's humble
if he if he uses this the right way.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, If he uses this the wrong way, we're done.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He has to use this in the way of like
when Randy Moss basically told the Cowboys, Hey, this is
what you get in the rest of the league for
not picking me.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I go back to what was it, two thousand five?
What five six?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Remember Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers slipping all the way to
caw from cal slipping all the way to twenty whatever
it was.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Again, I still think Aaron Rodgers is mediocre. You're not
going to change my mind about that. You're not won
Super Bowl you okay, okay, whoa. This just gave me
a good idea here, hold on down, because we've had
this discussion before. Aaron Rodgers first ballot Hall of Famer
yes or no?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Quick yes, Shane yes, Eli Manning No.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Interesting that you would say that, guys, Interesting that you
would say that. I mean Aaron Rodgs Eli Manning played
one team two Super Bowls. Aaron Rodgers is now being
a drifter around the league. But he got one Super Bowl?
Is that because of Green Bay?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
And if I'm not mistaken, Eli Manning fourteen out of
his sixteen years didn't win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But you're gonna tell me that the Giants weren't put
on the map because of one individual player.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
No, they weren't.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
We can get into this Hall Fame had a fantastic
defense those But Aaron Rodgers is a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He is. He's a four time MVP.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
That's why everybody's dying to sign him ever since he
got released from the Jets.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
He also has a winning record, Oh he does, he does.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I wonder why because of coaching or because Aaron Rodgers
ever curious everything? And then Eli won when they were
what nine and seven that one year? Yes, they defeated
an undefeated Patriots team. Yes, yeah, yeah, not a good
quarterback at all. That was all defense. That's what you
all are going to tell me, all right. Pick number
thirty three is the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So we were talking about Johnson and how he is
probably the best available quarterback right now for the Cleveland Browns. Now,
we do know that the Cleveland Browns want to build
their defense. Obviously, you know, you get Garrett in the
off season to stay, you know, because he wants to
win championships.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Everybody has a price.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But here's the problem, and it's not really a problem
because I think Browns fans are sitting here going, well,
it doesn't matter who they pick at this point, because
if the picks stay the same right now, it's Cleveland,
Texans Titans Cleveland. Yeah, so why don't you go ahead
and pick up Johnson first, let Sanders fall just a
(04:57):
little bit more, and then pick them up. Now, if
he doesn't get picked up, my question is this, the
Ratus sit right underneath them. Do you think Pete Carroll,
now that he's there, and now that you've got the
best running back out of everything, do you think you
can go younger with the Raiders? No, and have Sanders
as a possibility back there.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, because remember they traded for Geno Smith and they
also gave Geno Smith an extention.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Cool they let's think about it, because who was the
last quarterback that was supposed to go in the first
round and went in the second round? Somebody anyway, Gino
freaking Smith? Yeah, out of West Virginia. Really cocky, right,
thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He actually showed up to New York.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I think he's probably the only player to walk out
of the second round, right, So, I don't know, you
could see that scenario going out.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I want to play this out because I want to
say that Sanders doesn't get picked by Cleveland. Cleveland says,
you know what, We're not doing it. We're going on
pick it. That's what we want. Where Cleveland we're just dumb. Sorry, Ty,
You've got the Taxans who not Tennessee. They're good. Warren
Moon is even given the blessing. Okay, the Raiders probably
not going to do it. The Patriots not gonna do it. Nope,
(06:16):
the Bears nope. New Orleans Saints pick number forty possibility. Right,
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I could see him there because you could look at
the of the mindset of why they didn't take him
at nine originally was hey, we've got to get you protection.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
We have to, you know, get you weapons. We still
believe in you, but.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
We're gonna get you help first without hindering the team
and giving up a bunch of stuff to try to
do that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So let me ask you this, right, because if New
Orleans was very interested in doing that, don't you think
they would have traded for a last pick with like
either the Chiefs or the Eagles last night knowing that
Cleveland sits at thirty three, because you know New Orlean
is not on the phone right now with Cleveland saying hey,
you want to trade. Here's what I'm thinking. That's going
(07:05):
to be the move of the night. It would be
a chess move and it would be done by the Saints.
Let's say that they stay quiet, right because you know
the war room, you see everybody out there. They're all
monitoring all the other general managers. Hey are you doing anything?
Are you on the phone with New Orleans right now?
You know they're on the phone with Houston, right and
Houston's like, nah, we're good man, Like we're right behind it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But you saw, aren't you scared because Houston did that
pick like that with the Giants?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I was, well, yes and no.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So what's the probability that you go with Sanders first
and let Johnson go away? Even though if you're the
dog Pound and you're Cleveland, you're known for what defense?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, I just think with Cleveland, though obviously they have
the Deshaun wat I don't even say they have Deshaun Watson.
They have Deshaun Watson's contract. That's always going to be
the issue. Now. I know you restructured it this offseason
to help out a little bit, but they're still going
to be paying a lot of money to him. They
(08:08):
traded with U Philadelphia to get they got Kinny Pickett
if I remember correctly, Shane, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, the Brown's got picked.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, the Browns got Picket, and then the Browns send
Dorian Robinson something whatever, right, Philly. I just I don't
see Cleveland taking Chador on at that point because even
if even if he does play, you still have the
(08:37):
one hundred million dollars cap hit that is Deshaun Watson.
They're still screwed. They at this point they have they
still have to go. They still have to go get
more pieces. They need offense, They need a running back.
Maybe they go with running back with one of these
two picks.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
This guy.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Sorry, oh don't yeah, don't even get me started on
mel Kiper.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Mil Kuiper's if Cleveland doesn't draft even though I don't
think they should. Here's where I feel Shadoor is going
to land. With the fortieth pick in the NFL Draft,
the New Orleans Saints select Shadoor Sanders. Now, he's a
fit there because his personality, his personality there, he's humbled today,
(09:22):
he's very humbled today, hope, and in a city that
gives everything to their team, that is a perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Match for Sanders.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I would agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now, do I say that he starts this year right away?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Nope?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well here here, let me ask you this, because obviously
that we got the news a couple of weeks ago,
and I haven't haven't haven't gotten your take on this.
What do you make of the whole Derek Carr situation
just randomly out of nowhere, Hey, Derek carrs shoulder injury.
He may not even be ready or even play this season?
What what is that? Is that a contract thing? Or
(09:56):
is that him saying, hey, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Want to hold out? Yeah? Is it a holdout?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Derek Carr is not happy. Derek Carr is hated in
New Orleans. And it takes a lot for a city
to flip on your quarterback, but for two straight years,
and I get it, they're Drew Brees deprives. Okay, we
got used to the winning with Drew. We got used
to winning with a guy that wasn't ours. Derek Carr
(10:20):
thought he could come in and be breeze, and that
wasn't gonna be breezy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know that's my dad jokes in there.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But the thing is is for Sanders and as much
as I talk about it, and a lot of people
are gonna be like, dude, you're slamming them on social media,
I get it. But for a program, the dude got humbled.
Last night New Orleans said, you know what, We're going
to pick up an offensive lineman. And by the way,
great pickup for New Orleans. Shane makes me think about things.
Kelvin Banks, there was a couple of words in our
(10:49):
little group chat that I cannot mention here that I
said right after the pick because I was expecting Sanders
to go yeah, but maybe all the NFL teams said
hold on and time out again. Not a quarterback draft
this year. This is not a quarterback draft. The other person,
I'll say, maybe we can talk about it on the
other break.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
On the other side, Quinn yours, I don't does that?
Does that guy? Fit in the second round or third round.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I have a feeling he's probably gonna go like fourth,
fourth round.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I have a feeling he's gonna go to I see.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't get the hate. I really don't, or.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know, you brought it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean I hated him for a while.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, you brought it up.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And I just say.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Before the show, obviously the biggest thing is injuries. He's
been injured the past two seasons. Yes, so I guess
that would be the biggest knock. I would say selfishly,
Quinn is a little small, you know, for your typical,
but I usually like his efforts. I use the word
typical in air quotes because everybody NFL scouts is like, oh,
(11:55):
your typical NFL quarterback is supposed to be six', four six'.
FIVE whatever, I Mean drew brees was what six foot?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Pocket, passer yeah he had. To Be isn't sanders known
as a? Pocket? Passer?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah sure door is like six' one six two. To.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Twelve Yeah kellen moore is, offensive guru?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Isn't? HE yeah i mean, for me the biggest Thing
with quinn, is, obviously yes there's the injury prone and
then he worked on it, this year but the. Deep
ball his accuracy on the deep ball was. Not great
he worked on it, this year but it's not where it.
Should BE but i think if he goes in the fourth, round,
somewhere hey at that point you get to learn behind a. Starting,
(12:38):
quarterback absolutely you know who's, To say and this would
absolutely just annoy the heck out.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Of me but who's.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
To Say Maybe andy reid in the fourth round doesn't
go and, get him or.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Nobody's at this man's watch PARTY and i feel sad.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
For.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Him, Tyler, tyler well that's because, you know that's because
everybody's probably out to the early bird dinner Specials.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
At loubie's It's, In.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Scottsdale arizona oh.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Beautiful place you ever? Been?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
THERE no i haven't you hang out with your boy?
Out There? Cliff, kingsbury, YEAH yeah. I.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Wish yeah, all right coming up on the other side of,
the break it's been. A while i want to talk
A little SPURS and i want to talk a little lottery.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And A certain Spurs former.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Spurs birthday that's all next On The Andy every show
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