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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Sour number three of the program. Thank you for spending
your day with us wherever you may be.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I maan, do you ever at Our.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Audio disseminators are Shane Carter running everything and playing fantastic
music today and Michael Barlett.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
He is the producer of this show. All right.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I was listening to some golf coverage this weekend chalking.
I know that's a surprise, and it was one of
the shows that PGA to our radio runs on Saturday morning.
So I was heading in here for the golf show
and they were talking about the Grand Slam that Roy
just won a week or so ago.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We could go at the Masters almost choked away, but
he didn't. He choked a little, but he didn't do
it all the way.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So we forgive you for all your indiscretions, even though
you gave half the world a mini heart attack. But
they were talking about when Gene sarah'sn won it, he
basically won it retroactively because he had basically quit playing.
When we decided that the Master was the fourth lege
of the Grand Slam. PGA, US Open and Open championships
(01:05):
were already considered, and I think some sportswriter in the
fifties said this is the I think he the unequivoalable
quadrilateral or something like that, and now they trained it
into Grand Slam and then ben Hogan had to go
to Carnoustie, a place that he didn't like. He did
not like going to Scotland, and he finally decided he
(01:25):
had to go to win it, and he was able
to win and get his and then Jack and Gary
one hit. There's in the sixties and there wasn't a
lot of media coverage for that. Most of the media
coverage was print. What little we saw on TV was
a few holes on greenny BBC TV, or the last
three or four holes of the Masters.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Back in the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Tiger was in the media age and he brought the
media to the games, and then Rory did it when
the media is the most I guess, the most media
presence that we've ever seen, and that's only going to
continue to grow. And as I was listening to this,
it's hard to do this because the media is going
(02:06):
to ask you tough questions or the media is always
the one to blame. And the one thing I think
that athletes often forget is that the media has our
job to do, and its main job is to entertain
and inform people about an event to the fans of
that particular support or individual.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And there are some.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That aren't very good at it, and there's some that
are exceptional at it, and there are some that are
beginning at it and think that they're media because they
have an influencer account on Instagram or there's some kind
of a social media.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Star or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And back in the fifties and sixties seventies, there were
a lot of media people that would not pay attention
to the indiscretions of an athlete as long as that
athlete kept giving them good stories to tell that they
could tell to their fans. And Mickey Mantle basically drink
himself in into oblivion, but none of the beat writers
(03:02):
for the New York Yankees whatever exacerbate Mickey's drinking issues
in terms of baseball because the fans didn't want.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
To hear it. He's the one that dated Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That was Joe demasha one of the other yeah so,
and Joe Demaggio, Uh yeah, that was mister Coffee. Back
in the seventies and eighties. You ever see those commercials oh,
the one Mister Coffee, the automatic coffee maker came out.
Joe Demagio was the spokesman for mister Coffee. Yeah, okay,
now we just now we just go cure egg. And
(03:33):
I don't know who the spokesman for that is. But anyway,
media people were what you would call media friendly towards
a lot of the athletes because they knew that if
they were not media happy, they would they would get shunned,
and nobody wanted that. But as we moved into the
nineties and the Tiger era, or into the Michael Jordan
(03:55):
era for that matter, media became more I guess looking
for dirt. There's a lot of media people that just
want to tell a bad story to get publicity for themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Tm TMZ is.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Responsible for a lot of tragedy in this world, There's
no doubt. And they just and the paparazzi became because
why people want to see that. People like to get
close to their star, their fans. Most people are starstruck
when they meet somebody of fame for the first time
or the last time I can remember doing a I
(04:34):
think it was probably ninety three, ninety four, ninety two,
ninety four, somewhere run in there. The Bulls were here,
and Michael Jordan never would do an interview until he
was fully dressed. He got back in the back of
the Alamodome locker room area. He would get fully dressed,
and then he would say, okay, guys, come back here,
and we'd all go back there. And so I was
(04:55):
in the shot of one of the TV stations in town,
holding the Wi Mike flag and getting Michael Jordan sound,
and he was really making me upset because I had
to get to the Spurs locker room and he was
dilly dialing around in the bullslocker room. I was covering
them both and I needed sound from both.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And so I.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Got three minutes with mj and I was out of there.
But somebody said, oh, man, I saw you on TV.
You're standing right next to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Like, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
We weren't going to dinner, We're not playing golf. He
didn't sign an autograph, he didn't give me any he
didn't give me any cash out of his pocket, and
the only only autograph I want from him is one
with a personal check. But nonetheless, a lot of people
are starstruck and they.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Don't kind of get you know what.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They don't know what to say when they're around fame,
and that's why you have paparazzi. Somebody's going to buy
the picture, somebody's gonna buy the magazine, and so so
that happened. But I think with the advent of social media,
one of the things that athletes seem to take responsibility
for is that not only is the mainstream media trying
to tell their story to the people that watch their
(06:02):
publications or their blogs or their podcasts or whatever they're
in and those that are still in print that as well,
but they're doing their own media through their own social channels,
whether it's their YouTube channel or it's their their Facebook
account or Twitter, whatever. They're trying to tell their story
from their view. And when Tiger was first on tour,
(06:26):
he would call the PGA Tour and they would announce
that he was going to play in the next tournament.
And since Twitter came out, Tiger doesn't tell the media anything.
He just puts it on Twitter, and so to a
lot of other athletes, and that way they control the
narrative and they control the messaging. But it's not always
the media's fault. Sometimes it is. Sometimes there's derelict media
(06:46):
out there that are looking for a story, trying to
get there five minutes of fame, trying to make their
their website or their blog or their podcast relative by
doing something that's going to obviously not be opper journalism
or proper reporting credible and credible.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They just want to go out there and do it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Cameras were only a big deal back in the day,
so that the newspaper guy that was shooting the camera
could put it on the front page of a paper
and that was your reach out to that celebrity. And
now everybody wants to take a picture. That's why cell phones.
Nobody watches the golf tournament anymore except to the masters.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
They got a video it.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Now, how many times do you really go back and
watch the video or do you just want the video?
As I've said this with college football fans to a
certain extent, you take a video of Rory making a putt,
you post on Instagram and go, I just saw Rory
make a putt, which is code word for basically, I'm
here at this tournament where Rory's playing, so my life
is way better than yours.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Please click like and.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Then you get the endorphin rush when somebody that you
don't know likes you, and that's what so many are doing.
So when the guy and I don't know who it
was said, sometimes it's really difficult. It's a lot more
difficult to win in this media frenzy world than it
used to be, there's no question about that. But the
athletes is just as guilty because if they're going to
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post things on social media, and outlets are trying to
be the first to report those stories on social media
and or get a version of that story for themselves
on their media account. It's not always the media's fault.
And you out there that work in a bank or
a lawyer or a police officer or whatever your job is.
(08:31):
You can't go to the Master's or to the BLAO
Texas Open and ask a player a question. But I
can and the media can, and that way we get
the information disseminated to you. If you're a play by
a play broadcaster radio or TV, it's your job to
be the conduit between you and the and the team
because you may not be able to go to the game.
(08:53):
So we're the ones that are are the intermediary between
the game and the and the fan, And I sometimes
think players lose sight of that. Are there deranged fans
that have ulterior motives and want to stalk and torment players. Yes,
and they're weird, and we need to make sure we
keep those people away from the players as much as possible.
(09:13):
But it makes someone's day when they're able to meet
their heroes, that meet their stars, they may be inspired
to do something. And whether you're a what, no matter
whether you're I want to be basketball player as a
ten year old or a golfer or whatever, or maybe
want to be a movie star and you get to
meet an idol, that's a big deal. But I don't
(09:37):
necessarily like the idea that it's always the media's fault,
because most of the time the media is just trying
to tell the story and present something to the audience
that is really interested in that person's life.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, I think that's.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The unfortunate case because when you're using the term media,
it's being loosely used just because of aforementioned all of
the social media, where anything that's put out there is considered, oh,
well that's the media, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I'll go I'll go with this with this weekend. I
don't know if you saw it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But when you're talking about fans or meeting their heroes
or whatever sports figures. Former Spur current Sacramento king Jamar
de Rosen got into an altercation at some restaurant or
establishment either Saturday or Sunday, and allegedly the fan or
man in question. The story is something along the lines
(10:31):
of he wanted to take a picture with Damar and
had his camera up in his face, and of course
had the light on and it's in Damar's face and
he's basically saying, dude, get it out of my face.
Get into an altercation shoving that. That's where fans go
over the top.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
If you approach an athlete and say, would it be
okay if I take a picture? I would You're one
of my biggest fans. I'm one of your biggest fans.
About ninety five percent of the time. Most athletes are
going to say yes. But if you walk up with
your camera already on in the flash on, can I
have your picture? And you're clicking the deal before he consents, Okay,
well you're kind of crossing the line a little bit.
(11:08):
So it's but fans are going to do that. There's
always going to be the rogue fan that thinks that nope,
that an athlete doesn't have a personal life and they
can do whatever they want. But I it's but rarely
does a media person do that unless it's one of
those paparazzi type guys that's just trying to get as
much pictures as possible so they can sell it to TMZ. Yeah,
(11:31):
and now TMZ does a great job of getting stories first,
and unfortunately that's the way that a lot of media
people are judged. I don't think you should ever get
a story first unless it's right. If you if you
get it wrong and you were first, that's that's an
automatic fu because you're The retraction is never going to
be as impactful as as the as the breaking news.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, the retraction at this point just doesn't even matter
anymore because it's just like, oh, well, screwed up, or
hey we got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh well, there's on to the next story. Are that
which we're gonna do the same thing the next time.
There's no consequence for that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, hey we've already ruined your reputation or whatever. Sorry
we're wrong. Oh well, next next thing. Move on to
the next story. So the fun The laughable part about
the Damar situation is the guy sitting there makes another
video of like two minutes of him either walking with
the EMTs and getting put on the into the.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Ambulance or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Looks perfectly fine, and I'm assuming he's probably gonna sue
tomorrow a legend assault or something.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
If an athlete is at a restaurant on a Tuesday
night or a Sunday night with his family or with
a girlfriend or with a wife or whatever, their hands off,
you don't need to I told this story before, and
it's one of the best stories. I don't know who
this mom or dad this dad was, but there was that.
The restaurant's changed hands about fifteen times in the last
(12:59):
twenty years. It's the one whatever it is now at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh four and Stone Oak.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's like and it was an Italian restaurant back in
the day, and I was in there for like somebody's
birthday was one of our We had five or six
seven people at a table, and two or three tables
over from us was Tim Duncan and at the time
his wife Amy, and they were enjoying their date or
their dinner or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And as as.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
He got up to leave, there were some people that
there was no applause or anything. People were leaving them alone.
But you know, it looked like they were about to
finish their bill. And some kid that was probably I
don't know, ten or eleven years old, said, dad, can
I go over and ask for him for his autograph?
And the dad said, no, you can't. This is not
where we sign autographs. He's on a date with his girlfriend,
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fiance wife, whatever she was at the time. This is
a time where you respect their privacy and leave them alone.
And not that Tim would have said yes or no
to the autograph or a pick sure. I mean at
that time we didn't have cameras. It was ninety eight
or ninety nine, so the cell phone camera was still
a few years away. But the point of the fact
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was is that this particular dad told his kid, this
is an opportunity for him to be by himself amongst
other people. He's not Tim Duckan the basketball player right now.
He's Tim Duckan, the citizen of San Antonio. Leave him alone.
And I mean when I was in an earshot of
that conversation and when I heard it, it was very
(14:32):
impactful because I think that's the way that everybody should be. Unfortunately,
there's people that are going to interrupt him. That's one
of the things I think is a selling point for
a free agent or a draft pick to San Antonio
is that for the most part, we leave you alone.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
If you're approachable, or if you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Wave at us, or you say hi and you say
I back, then that's one thing. But for the most part,
we leave this at least the athletes alone when they're
out of a public setting like that.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, I mean, if nothing else, you say, hey, no,
you don't do that, but you can at least go
up to him and say, hey, Tim, can I shake
your hand or something like that, and maybe hey ninety
nine or at one hundred, they might say, hey, you know,
nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Hey, do you have a camera. Yeah, I'll give your
name as walking.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Out as he's walking out the door, Hey Tim, great
game last night, or hey Tim, keep up the good work,
and they'll usually acknowledge you. But don't assume that because
they're out to dinner, that that's an autograph session. Yeah,
because there's seventy five people in the restaurant and if
he signs one he's gonna be there for thirty minutes
signing everybody else.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I remember a situation where when I was back.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
At the old old studio or old.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Company that I used to work for, got to meet
San Antonio's own priest Holmes, you know, Kansas City Chief
Baltimore Raven got to meet him there, had the opportunity took.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
A pice of this lock him because he's a longhorn well.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That too, but you know, I got to take a
picture with him while I was there. And then a
couple of weeks later, randomly saw him at some restaurant
here in San Antonio. We locked eyes. You know, I
nodded my head. He looked at me and he waved
me over, and he's like, hey, how you doing. You know,
good to see you again. And I was like, hey,
you know, good to see you again. And he actually said, hey,
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you want to take a picture real quick or something
like that. I was like, no, man, it's cool. You
know you got me last time. I appreciate it. Enjoying
your dinner with his wife or fiance or girlfriend, I
don't know whatever, but it's that respect of San Antonio
here to where ninety nine percent of us. We just
treat him as regular athletes when they're not on the
clock on the court at the Frost Bank Center, we
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basically just leave.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Them alone or give them the nod. Hey, But it's
not always the media.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
The media is trying to do something to promote you,
and I wish that more athletes would sometimes see that
not well you media guys, you're the ones that are
one that's out of proportion.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
No, you posted it on Twitter. We're just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, all right, Nica Harrison does not get it, or
kind of he does.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We'll talk about that next on the Ticket
Sour number three of the program. Thank you for spending
your day with us wherever you may be.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I maan, do you ever at Our.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Audio disseminators are Shane Carter running everything and playing fantastic
music today and Michael Barlett.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
He is the producer of this show. All right.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I was listening to some golf coverage this weekend chalking.
I know that's a surprise, and it was one of
the shows that PGA to our radio runs on Saturday morning.
So I was heading in here for the golf show
and they were talking about the Grand Slam that Roy
just won a week or so ago.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We could go at the Masters almost choked away, but
he didn't. He choked a little, but he didn't do
it all the way.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So we forgive you for all your indiscretions, even though
you gave half the world a mini heart attack. But
they were talking about when Gene sarah'sn won it, he
basically won it retroactively because he had basically quit playing.
When we decided that the Master was the fourth lege
of the Grand Slam. PGA, US Open and Open championships
(01:05):
were already considered, and I think some sportswriter in the
fifties said this is the I think he the unequivoalable
quadrilateral or something like that, and now they trained it
into Grand Slam and then ben Hogan had to go
to Carnoustie, a place that he didn't like. He did
not like going to Scotland, and he finally decided he
(01:25):
had to go to win it, and he was able
to win and get his and then Jack and Gary
one hit. There's in the sixties and there wasn't a
lot of media coverage for that. Most of the media
coverage was print. What little we saw on TV was
a few holes on greenny BBC TV, or the last
three or four holes of the Masters.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Back in the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Tiger was in the media age and he brought the
media to the games, and then Rory did it when
the media is the most I guess, the most media
presence that we've ever seen, and that's only going to
continue to grow. And as I was listening to this,
it's hard to do this because the media is going
(02:06):
to ask you tough questions or the media is always
the one to blame. And the one thing I think
that athletes often forget is that the media has our
job to do, and its main job is to entertain
and inform people about an event to the fans of
that particular support or individual.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And there are some.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That aren't very good at it, and there's some that
are exceptional at it, and there are some that are
beginning at it and think that they're media because they
have an influencer account on Instagram or there's some kind
of a social media.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Star or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And back in the fifties and sixties seventies, there were
a lot of media people that would not pay attention
to the indiscretions of an athlete as long as that
athlete kept giving them good stories to tell that they
could tell to their fans. And Mickey Mantle basically drink
himself in into oblivion, but none of the beat writers
(03:02):
for the New York Yankees whatever exacerbate Mickey's drinking issues
in terms of baseball because the fans didn't want.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
To hear it. He's the one that dated Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That was Joe demasha one of the other yeah so,
and Joe Demaggio, Uh yeah, that was mister Coffee. Back
in the seventies and eighties. You ever see those commercials oh,
the one Mister Coffee, the automatic coffee maker came out.
Joe Demagio was the spokesman for mister Coffee. Yeah, okay,
now we just now we just go cure egg. And
(03:33):
I don't know who the spokesman for that is. But anyway,
media people were what you would call media friendly towards
a lot of the athletes because they knew that if
they were not media happy, they would they would get shunned,
and nobody wanted that. But as we moved into the
nineties and the Tiger era, or into the Michael Jordan
(03:55):
era for that matter, media became more I guess looking
for dirt. There's a lot of media people that just
want to tell a bad story to get publicity for themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Tm TMZ is.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Responsible for a lot of tragedy in this world, There's
no doubt. And they just and the paparazzi became because
why people want to see that. People like to get
close to their star, their fans. Most people are starstruck
when they meet somebody of fame for the first time
or the last time I can remember doing a I
(04:34):
think it was probably ninety three, ninety four, ninety two,
ninety four, somewhere run in there. The Bulls were here,
and Michael Jordan never would do an interview until he
was fully dressed. He got back in the back of
the Alamodome locker room area. He would get fully dressed,
and then he would say, okay, guys, come back here,
and we'd all go back there. And so I was
(04:55):
in the shot of one of the TV stations in town,
holding the Wi Mike flag and getting Michael Jordan sound,
and he was really making me upset because I had
to get to the Spurs locker room and he was
dilly dialing around in the bullslocker room. I was covering
them both and I needed sound from both.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And so I.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Got three minutes with mj and I was out of there.
But somebody said, oh, man, I saw you on TV.
You're standing right next to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Like, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
We weren't going to dinner, We're not playing golf. He
didn't sign an autograph, he didn't give me any he
didn't give me any cash out of his pocket, and
the only only autograph I want from him is one
with a personal check. But nonetheless, a lot of people
are starstruck and they.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Don't kind of get you know what.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They don't know what to say when they're around fame,
and that's why you have paparazzi. Somebody's going to buy
the picture, somebody's gonna buy the magazine, and so so
that happened. But I think with the advent of social media,
one of the things that athletes seem to take responsibility
for is that not only is the mainstream media trying
to tell their story to the people that watch their
(06:02):
publications or their blogs or their podcasts or whatever they're
in and those that are still in print that as well,
but they're doing their own media through their own social channels,
whether it's their YouTube channel or it's their their Facebook
account or Twitter, whatever. They're trying to tell their story
from their view. And when Tiger was first on tour,
(06:26):
he would call the PGA Tour and they would announce
that he was going to play in the next tournament.
And since Twitter came out, Tiger doesn't tell the media anything.
He just puts it on Twitter, and so to a
lot of other athletes, and that way they control the
narrative and they control the messaging. But it's not always
the media's fault. Sometimes it is. Sometimes there's derelict media
(06:46):
out there that are looking for a story, trying to
get there five minutes of fame, trying to make their
their website or their blog or their podcast relative by
doing something that's going to obviously not be opper journalism
or proper reporting credible and credible.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They just want to go out there and do it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Cameras were only a big deal back in the day,
so that the newspaper guy that was shooting the camera
could put it on the front page of a paper
and that was your reach out to that celebrity. And
now everybody wants to take a picture. That's why cell phones.
Nobody watches the golf tournament anymore except to the masters.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
They got a video it.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Now, how many times do you really go back and
watch the video or do you just want the video?
As I've said this with college football fans to a
certain extent, you take a video of Rory making a putt,
you post on Instagram and go, I just saw Rory
make a putt, which is code word for basically, I'm
here at this tournament where Rory's playing, so my life
is way better than yours.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Please click like and.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Then you get the endorphin rush when somebody that you
don't know likes you, and that's what so many are doing.
So when the guy and I don't know who it
was said, sometimes it's really difficult. It's a lot more
difficult to win in this media frenzy world than it
used to be, there's no question about that. But the
athletes is just as guilty because if they're going to
(08:11):
post things on social media, and outlets are trying to
be the first to report those stories on social media
and or get a version of that story for themselves
on their media account. It's not always the media's fault.
And you out there that work in a bank or
a lawyer or a police officer or whatever your job is.
(08:31):
You can't go to the Master's or to the BLAO
Texas Open and ask a player a question. But I
can and the media can, and that way we get
the information disseminated to you. If you're a play by
a play broadcaster radio or TV, it's your job to
be the conduit between you and the and the team
because you may not be able to go to the game.
(08:53):
So we're the ones that are are the intermediary between
the game and the and the fan, And I sometimes
think players lose sight of that. Are there deranged fans
that have ulterior motives and want to stalk and torment players. Yes,
and they're weird, and we need to make sure we
keep those people away from the players as much as possible.
(09:13):
But it makes someone's day when they're able to meet
their heroes, that meet their stars, they may be inspired
to do something. And whether you're a what, no matter
whether you're I want to be basketball player as a
ten year old or a golfer or whatever, or maybe
want to be a movie star and you get to
meet an idol, that's a big deal. But I don't
(09:37):
necessarily like the idea that it's always the media's fault,
because most of the time the media is just trying
to tell the story and present something to the audience
that is really interested in that person's life.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, I think that's.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The unfortunate case because when you're using the term media,
it's being loosely used just because of aforementioned all of
the social media, where anything that's put out there is considered, oh,
well that's the media, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I'll go I'll go with this with this weekend. I
don't know if you saw it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But when you're talking about fans or meeting their heroes
or whatever sports figures. Former Spur current Sacramento king Jamar
de Rosen got into an altercation at some restaurant or
establishment either Saturday or Sunday, and allegedly the fan or
man in question. The story is something along the lines
(10:31):
of he wanted to take a picture with Damar and
had his camera up in his face, and of course
had the light on and it's in Damar's face and
he's basically saying, dude, get it out of my face.
Get into an altercation shoving that. That's where fans go
over the top.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
If you approach an athlete and say, would it be
okay if I take a picture? I would You're one
of my biggest fans. I'm one of your biggest fans.
About ninety five percent of the time. Most athletes are
going to say yes. But if you walk up with
your camera already on in the flash on, can I
have your picture? And you're clicking the deal before he consents, Okay,
well you're kind of crossing the line a little bit.
(11:08):
So it's but fans are going to do that. There's
always going to be the rogue fan that thinks that nope,
that an athlete doesn't have a personal life and they
can do whatever they want. But I it's but rarely
does a media person do that unless it's one of
those paparazzi type guys that's just trying to get as
much pictures as possible so they can sell it to TMZ. Yeah,
(11:31):
and now TMZ does a great job of getting stories first,
and unfortunately that's the way that a lot of media
people are judged. I don't think you should ever get
a story first unless it's right. If you if you
get it wrong and you were first, that's that's an
automatic fu because you're The retraction is never going to
be as impactful as as the as the breaking news.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, the retraction at this point just doesn't even matter
anymore because it's just like, oh, well, screwed up, or
hey we got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh well, there's on to the next story. Are that
which we're gonna do the same thing the next time.
There's no consequence for that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, hey we've already ruined your reputation or whatever. Sorry
we're wrong. Oh well, next next thing. Move on to
the next story. So the fun The laughable part about
the Damar situation is the guy sitting there makes another
video of like two minutes of him either walking with
the EMTs and getting put on the into the.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Ambulance or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Looks perfectly fine, and I'm assuming he's probably gonna sue
tomorrow a legend assault or something.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
If an athlete is at a restaurant on a Tuesday
night or a Sunday night with his family or with
a girlfriend or with a wife or whatever, their hands off,
you don't need to I told this story before, and
it's one of the best stories. I don't know who
this mom or dad this dad was, but there was that.
The restaurant's changed hands about fifteen times in the last
(12:59):
twenty years. It's the one whatever it is now at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh four and Stone Oak.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's like and it was an Italian restaurant back in
the day, and I was in there for like somebody's
birthday was one of our We had five or six
seven people at a table, and two or three tables
over from us was Tim Duncan and at the time
his wife Amy, and they were enjoying their date or
their dinner or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And as as.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
He got up to leave, there were some people that
there was no applause or anything. People were leaving them alone.
But you know, it looked like they were about to
finish their bill. And some kid that was probably I
don't know, ten or eleven years old, said, dad, can
I go over and ask for him for his autograph?
And the dad said, no, you can't. This is not
where we sign autographs. He's on a date with his girlfriend,
(13:48):
fiance wife, whatever she was at the time. This is
a time where you respect their privacy and leave them alone.
And not that Tim would have said yes or no
to the autograph or a pick sure. I mean at
that time we didn't have cameras. It was ninety eight
or ninety nine, so the cell phone camera was still
a few years away. But the point of the fact
(14:09):
was is that this particular dad told his kid, this
is an opportunity for him to be by himself amongst
other people. He's not Tim Duckan the basketball player right now.
He's Tim Duckan, the citizen of San Antonio. Leave him alone.
And I mean when I was in an earshot of
that conversation and when I heard it, it was very
(14:32):
impactful because I think that's the way that everybody should be. Unfortunately,
there's people that are going to interrupt him. That's one
of the things I think is a selling point for
a free agent or a draft pick to San Antonio
is that for the most part, we leave you alone.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
If you're approachable, or if you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Wave at us, or you say hi and you say
I back, then that's one thing. But for the most part,
we leave this at least the athletes alone when they're
out of a public setting like that.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, I mean, if nothing else, you say, hey, no,
you don't do that, but you can at least go
up to him and say, hey, Tim, can I shake
your hand or something like that, and maybe hey ninety
nine or at one hundred, they might say, hey, you know,
nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Hey, do you have a camera. Yeah, I'll give your
name as walking.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Out as he's walking out the door, Hey Tim, great
game last night, or hey Tim, keep up the good work,
and they'll usually acknowledge you. But don't assume that because
they're out to dinner, that that's an autograph session. Yeah,
because there's seventy five people in the restaurant and if
he signs one he's gonna be there for thirty minutes
signing everybody else.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I remember a situation where when I was back.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
At the old old studio or old.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Company that I used to work for, got to meet
San Antonio's own priest Holmes, you know, Kansas City Chief
Baltimore Raven got to meet him there, had the opportunity took.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
A pice of this lock him because he's a longhorn well.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That too, but you know, I got to take a
picture with him while I was there. And then a
couple of weeks later, randomly saw him at some restaurant
here in San Antonio. We locked eyes. You know, I
nodded my head. He looked at me and he waved
me over, and he's like, hey, how you doing. You know,
good to see you again. And I was like, hey,
you know, good to see you again. And he actually said, hey,
(16:20):
you want to take a picture real quick or something
like that. I was like, no, man, it's cool. You
know you got me last time. I appreciate it. Enjoying
your dinner with his wife or fiance or girlfriend, I
don't know whatever, but it's that respect of San Antonio
here to where ninety nine percent of us. We just
treat him as regular athletes when they're not on the
clock on the court at the Frost Bank Center, we
(16:43):
basically just leave.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Them alone or give them the nod. Hey, But it's
not always the media.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
The media is trying to do something to promote you,
and I wish that more athletes would sometimes see that
not well you media guys, you're the ones that are
one that's out of proportion.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
No, you posted it on Twitter. We're just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, all right, Nica Harrison does not get it, or
kind of he does.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We'll talk about that next on the Ticket
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