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Speaker 1 (00:07):
We've got some more college football stuff to get to
here in just a little bit, including the story out
of Boulder, Colorado, where Dion Sanders has announced that his
son Shador and his running mate Travis Hunter their numbers
will be retired. I believe the total number of retired
jerseys in the history of the Colorado program is four.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think the Heisman Trophy winner, no clue. Yeah, the
wide receiver, no clue. Hi remember the Colerad I'll I'll
sit Joe Klatt, No, not him, Cordell Stewart, Cordell Stewart. Finally,
I think Cordell Stewart either didn't have I don't think
(00:48):
he's gotten his number retired yet. But anyway, these guys
played less than two years there. Yeah, they kind of
turned the program around, and I think they're going to
be great pros, especially Hunter. But I'm in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
That you are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
This is we're trying to again, we're trying to be nice,
and I don't want to be I don't want to
go out of my way to be nice to somebody,
to be mean to someone, but we're doing things so
that we can show empathy when that award. I don't
think is deserving of them. Now, if Duar goes all
(01:28):
out and wins a couple of Super Bowls, and because
he was at Colorado at springboarded to him and ten
years down the road they want to honor him in
some way. I can understand that. But to play two
seasons at a school, I mean, I think you got
to play at least three, if not four, in football.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I could at least make I can make the argument
for Travis Hunter because yet he is a Heisman Trophy winner.
I can make the argument for that because that is
a hell of an accomplishment to do in two years
a program. But Shadoor, again, if his last name is
(02:05):
not Sanders, and he is not the son of Dion,
he's just another guy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Here's the Colorado retired numbers Byron White who played in
the nineteen thirties, Like, we don't remember that exactly. Joe Roming,
he was an offensive guard in the fifties. We don't
remember that, ye. Bobby Anderson played for Colorado in the sixties.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I was five.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Rashaan Salom was the one I was thinking of, oh
in ninety three, ninety four, And now they're going to
put Shaduar Sanders and Travis Hunter in that mix. How
about Darien Hagen who won helped them get to the
national championship in nineteen ninety. I think how about Cordell Stewart,
who's still not on the on the retired number.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
List, the famous fifth down right?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Absolutely yeah, against Missouri in nineteen ninety, the Oky forgot
to change the down marker and they gave him five
downs to score against Missouri and kept their unbeaten season
on the line.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean, besides, besides Cordell Stewart and Old Klatt, I
couldn't tell you any other Colorado Buffalo football players ever,
besides the one you just said and I.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Second name one. He's a he's a former, he's a
he excelled more in professional golf than he did in football. Okay,
he probably don't remember the name that Hail Irwin was
a three time US Open winner and member of the
World Golf Hall of Fame, and he played defensive back
(03:28):
for the Buffaloes in the late sixties when I was
like three years old.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
The only other two I don't remember the names, but
I remember the significance was I remember, excuse me, there
was a wide receiver at Colorado. That was I want
to say, like an Olympic skier as well. I remember them,
I don't remember the name. I want to say the
name was like Jeremy White, but I'm that's probably completely wrong.
(03:53):
And then they Colorado was I believe they were the
first collide At football program to have a female kicker.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
If I remember correctly, it could have been. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The reason I bring up this story is I don't
think anybody cares what numbers at Colorado retired and not retired.
But to me, what this does is it says to people,
you can be mediocre or just slightly above better and
we'll do something special for you. Uh. And there's there's
so many different there's there's like retired numbers. There's a
(04:28):
reason that the like this. You can make a case
that there's several players in the Spurs Ring of Honor
that don't have the stats to be deserving. I mean,
Avery Johnson and Tim Duncan are two things that don't
belong in the same Senate sometimes. But Avery Johnson made
the shot that won the championship, so that's why he
gets in. And Avery was a great his his induction
(04:51):
to that Ring of Honor for the Spurs is not
based on his performance on the field as much as
it is what he meant to this city and of
the team, and so that's why he's deserving to be
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there, but
a lot of times it's people look at it as
just because you were the best player of your generation
and Hall of Fame wise, that could be the same
(05:12):
thing as well.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean you could make the same argument as well
for the Ninja himself, Sean Elliott.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, yeah, Sean has one title.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But Sean Elliott to me is still the most accessible
Spore we've ever had. Maybe Ice is in the same boat.
And nothing against David and Tim, but David doesn't go
to every every Spurs game and Sean pretty much does
because he's working.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Sean nothing, don't all the Spurs game.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Let's be honest, Seas Sean wasn't there for the last
game of the season.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Maybe he was there in spirit.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
David did at any time anytime we're doing a home game.
I'm pretty sure that Favo is always in the house.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't know he's always there, but I know that
I've always thought that Sean was the most approachable spur
in the thirty eight years i've been here. Oh yeah,
you can have a conversation with Sean and he's not
been a He's not ever had I don't think he
has a mean bone in his but not that David
or Tim does either. But Tim's Tim. Tim's on island
time most of the time.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, I've told this story. I think when
I was like fourteen, after I blew out my knee,
fourteen fifteen years old, I was at at the time
what it was called the heabenor Oaks Movies off of
Heabena Road. Ran into Seawan Elliott randomly there one day
on a Saturday afternoon, just a random day, and you know,
(06:28):
I'm with my parents and then we just all kind
of look and see this shadow come over us. We
all kind of turn to the right and we look up.
Hey you're Sean Elliott. He's like, hey, Hen, how are
you doing? Nice to Peacha. Absolutely, and I, you know,
fourteen fifteen years old, I'm like, that's sew freaking up.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That was your star moment. And he was very approachable, Sean,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I And not that David is not approachable. He is
not that David Johnson is is not approachable. He is,
Tim's not there all the time. But I think Sean
is the most approachable Spur former Spur player and now
broadcaster they've ever had. I would say Man who was
probably up there as well because he got all the
(07:10):
games though well as.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Far as like not going to the games.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But like I would say Man who was probably one
of the most approachable as well, because he's just another
regular guy that you know, you see him on social media.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think Sean Elliott could win the mayoral race if
he wanted to be mayor. I'm sure he could now,
not that the others couldn't too, but it wouldn't take much.
If he wanted to be in politics, he could get
there pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, it's just it's poor timing. I mean, hell, Vince
Young v why didn't have his number retired until what
two years ago? I want to say, And it's been
twenty something years since they won the national championship.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
McCoy's number, I believe was retired last year.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But here's the thing. You can retire the number, but
somebody's still probably gonna wear it because you've got a
hundred guys on the team, and you're gonna need extra
jersey as long as it's not on the same side
of the field. But it's just it's very poor timing.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Again, Travis Hunter, I would say, yes, you can make
an argument, he's a Heisman Trophy winner. You can make
that argument. But Shador Sanders, they didn't win a Bowl game.
You were what one or two games above five hundred
in two years your prime skid, You get it, wait a.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Few years if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
All right, coming up in the next segment, we've got
to reef a retirement from ESPN and we'll talk about
what that means. And we got a lot more again
the six o'clock hour as well. It's five point forty
seven on the ticket.
We've got some more college football stuff to get to
here in just a little bit, including the story out
of Boulder, Colorado, where Dion Sanders has announced that his
son Shador and his running mate Travis Hunter their numbers
will be retired. I believe the total number of retired
jerseys in the history of the Colorado program is four.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think the Heisman Trophy winner, no clue. Yeah, the
wide receiver, no clue. Hi remember the Colerad I'll I'll
sit Joe Klatt, No, not him, Cordell Stewart, Cordell Stewart. Finally,
I think Cordell Stewart either didn't have I don't think
(00:48):
he's gotten his number retired yet. But anyway, these guys
played less than two years there. Yeah, they kind of
turned the program around, and I think they're going to
be great pros, especially Hunter. But I'm in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
That you are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
This is we're trying to again, we're trying to be nice,
and I don't want to be I don't want to
go out of my way to be nice to somebody,
to be mean to someone, but we're doing things so
that we can show empathy when that award. I don't
think is deserving of them. Now, if Duar goes all
(01:28):
out and wins a couple of Super Bowls, and because
he was at Colorado at springboarded to him and ten
years down the road they want to honor him in
some way. I can understand that. But to play two
seasons at a school, I mean, I think you got
to play at least three, if not four, in football.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I could at least make I can make the argument
for Travis Hunter because yet he is a Heisman Trophy winner.
I can make the argument for that because that is
a hell of an accomplishment to do in two years
a program. But Shadoor, again, if his last name is
(02:05):
not Sanders, and he is not the son of Dion,
he's just another guy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Here's the Colorado retired numbers Byron White who played in
the nineteen thirties, Like, we don't remember that exactly. Joe Roming,
he was an offensive guard in the fifties. We don't
remember that, ye. Bobby Anderson played for Colorado in the sixties.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I was five.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Rashaan Salom was the one I was thinking of, oh
in ninety three, ninety four, And now they're going to
put Shaduar Sanders and Travis Hunter in that mix. How
about Darien Hagen who won helped them get to the
national championship in nineteen ninety. I think how about Cordell Stewart,
who's still not on the on the retired number.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
List, the famous fifth down right?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Absolutely yeah, against Missouri in nineteen ninety, the Oky forgot
to change the down marker and they gave him five
downs to score against Missouri and kept their unbeaten season
on the line.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean, besides, besides Cordell Stewart and Old Klatt, I
couldn't tell you any other Colorado Buffalo football players ever,
besides the one you just said and I.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Second name one. He's a he's a former, he's a
he excelled more in professional golf than he did in football. Okay,
he probably don't remember the name that Hail Irwin was
a three time US Open winner and member of the
World Golf Hall of Fame, and he played defensive back
(03:28):
for the Buffaloes in the late sixties when I was
like three years old.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
The only other two I don't remember the names, but
I remember the significance was I remember, excuse me, there
was a wide receiver at Colorado. That was I want
to say, like an Olympic skier as well. I remember them,
I don't remember the name. I want to say the
name was like Jeremy White, but I'm that's probably completely wrong.
(03:53):
And then they Colorado was I believe they were the
first collide At football program to have a female kicker.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
If I remember correctly, it could have been. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The reason I bring up this story is I don't
think anybody cares what numbers at Colorado retired and not retired.
But to me, what this does is it says to people,
you can be mediocre or just slightly above better and
we'll do something special for you. Uh. And there's there's
so many different there's there's like retired numbers. There's a
(04:28):
reason that the like this. You can make a case
that there's several players in the Spurs Ring of Honor
that don't have the stats to be deserving. I mean,
Avery Johnson and Tim Duncan are two things that don't
belong in the same Senate sometimes. But Avery Johnson made
the shot that won the championship, so that's why he
gets in. And Avery was a great his his induction
(04:51):
to that Ring of Honor for the Spurs is not
based on his performance on the field as much as
it is what he meant to this city and of
the team, and so that's why he's deserving to be
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there, but
a lot of times it's people look at it as
just because you were the best player of your generation
and Hall of Fame wise, that could be the same
(05:12):
thing as well.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean you could make the same argument as well
for the Ninja himself, Sean Elliott.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, yeah, Sean has one title.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But Sean Elliott to me is still the most accessible
Spore we've ever had. Maybe Ice is in the same boat.
And nothing against David and Tim, but David doesn't go
to every every Spurs game and Sean pretty much does
because he's working.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Sean nothing, don't all the Spurs game.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Let's be honest, Seas Sean wasn't there for the last
game of the season.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Maybe he was there in spirit.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
David did at any time anytime we're doing a home game.
I'm pretty sure that Favo is always in the house.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't know he's always there, but I know that
I've always thought that Sean was the most approachable spur
in the thirty eight years i've been here. Oh yeah,
you can have a conversation with Sean and he's not
been a He's not ever had I don't think he
has a mean bone in his but not that David
or Tim does either. But Tim's Tim. Tim's on island
time most of the time.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, I've told this story. I think when
I was like fourteen, after I blew out my knee,
fourteen fifteen years old, I was at at the time
what it was called the heabenor Oaks Movies off of
Heabena Road. Ran into Seawan Elliott randomly there one day
on a Saturday afternoon, just a random day, and you know,
(06:28):
I'm with my parents and then we just all kind
of look and see this shadow come over us. We
all kind of turn to the right and we look up.
Hey you're Sean Elliott. He's like, hey, Hen, how are
you doing? Nice to Peacha. Absolutely, and I, you know,
fourteen fifteen years old, I'm like, that's sew freaking up.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That was your star moment. And he was very approachable, Sean,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I And not that David is not approachable. He is
not that David Johnson is is not approachable. He is,
Tim's not there all the time. But I think Sean
is the most approachable Spur former Spur player and now
broadcaster they've ever had. I would say Man who was
probably up there as well because he got all the
(07:10):
games though well as.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Far as like not going to the games.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But like I would say Man who was probably one
of the most approachable as well, because he's just another
regular guy that you know, you see him on social media.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think Sean Elliott could win the mayoral race if
he wanted to be mayor. I'm sure he could now,
not that the others couldn't too, but it wouldn't take much.
If he wanted to be in politics, he could get
there pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, it's just it's poor timing. I mean, hell, Vince
Young v why didn't have his number retired until what
two years ago? I want to say, And it's been
twenty something years since they won the national championship.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
McCoy's number, I believe was retired last year.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But here's the thing. You can retire the number, but
somebody's still probably gonna wear it because you've got a
hundred guys on the team, and you're gonna need extra
jersey as long as it's not on the same side
of the field. But it's just it's very poor timing.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Again, Travis Hunter, I would say, yes, you can make
an argument, he's a Heisman Trophy winner. You can make
that argument. But Shador Sanders, they didn't win a Bowl game.
You were what one or two games above five hundred
in two years your prime skid, You get it, wait a.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Few years if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
All right, coming up in the next segment, we've got
to reef a retirement from ESPN and we'll talk about
what that means. And we got a lot more again
the six o'clock hour as well. It's five point forty
seven on the ticket.
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