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Speaker 1 (00:07):
We go into our number two of the program. We're
live with the Valero Texas Open. Thank you for spending
your afternoon with us. Jordan Speech just picked up a
birdie on the fourteenth hole, I believe, and he has
moved a three under par.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He's got a few more holes to play to get
it in.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I don't think he's going to Keith catch Keith Mitchell
today who shot sixty four and did not berdie the
par fives on the back nine, but a great round
for him. Sam Riders moved in now to second place
at minus seven, and there's lots of stars at the
top of that leaderboard as far as this field is concerned.
Last I checked to Deki Matziyama was having a struggle today.
(00:43):
He was at two over. But Tommy Fleetwood is in
the mix. I picked him yesterday. Keigan Bradley was off
to a good start earlier, and I told you to
watch out for Rio Hassatsune because he's a two under par.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Last time I checked as.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, he DECKI has a stroke and he is plus
one now at tied for nineteen thirty fourteen through fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yes, sir, yeah, they're playing fifteen right now now. All right, Yeah,
he and speak they're playing together. He needs to get
a couple of birdies coming in. He'll have chances at
seventeen and eighteen for sure, maybe sixteen two.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I saw this story on several different sources. Mostly it
was that NBA players are getting more and more disgruntled
at the NBA media coverage, and I started thinking about, Okay,
who's covering the NBA from a media standpoint? And you
still have your traditional writers and national guys that work
(01:38):
for newspapers and for print and blogging and all that
kind of stuff. But the more that you turn on
the TV and watch ESPN or Fox or the NBA TV,
you usually have a host who never has an opinion
on anything, and you have a whole bunch of ex
players who have all the opinions, and those opinions are
(01:59):
considered now what the media is talking about now, I
think it would be as good.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I think Arnie Johnson occasionally has an opinion, but he
usually gives way to the three others on the panel.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You know, the ESPN crew is whoever hosts it, there's
usually three or four players with them on the on
the set and they give way to the players to
give their opinions on things.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And this is going to be going on for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And it used to be, well, if you're not a player,
you can't get into the media.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Business and comment on games.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And fortunately, except for when T and T used to
do that ridiculous players only thing, there is somebody to
lead the ship. I think those broadcasts struggled because there
was no leader that was directing the show. And while
athletes certainly know a lot about the game, and some
do a very good job of translating into English to
the people who are watching, you still need somebody to
(02:57):
drive the boat. And that's why you have of Kevin
Harlan or Brian Anderson on the national stage or.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Mike Breen.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Those guys they know how to get the players that's
now the analyst to be able to talk about stuff.
And I don't think that there's time in a game
for players that are doing color commentary to be overcritical
of what's happening on the floor or in general.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In a player's life.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
But the panels on the pre and postgame shows and
on the TV talk shows with Steven A. Smith, and
now you have some of the former WNBA players that
are on those panels, they're the ones that are giving
you opinions on what players.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Do and should do and should not do.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And I find it kind of interesting that we're starting
to see some current players have problems with ex players.
Why are you always saying this is the way we
did it back in my day, this is the twenty
twenty fives.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
We don't care how you did it back then. We
do it differently. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You didn't shoot threes, we shoot threes. You didn't shoot
transition threes, We do that as well. But I think
there's also some reluctance sometimes for ex players to be
critical of current players and for current players to throw
X players under the bus, because in a lot of ways,
it's those players that they idolized. So I don't I
(04:26):
would like to see more, I don't know, more credibility.
And maybe the players have the most credibility because they've
actually done it, and that's the reason why I think
they've been hired in the vein that they have been.
But I think there's a lot of non players that
could do that job well and analyze things and have
(04:50):
opinions on things, and that's what talk show hosts do.
My deal every day is to find things that I
think you're going to be interested in and give you
opinions on players I think need to have a that
I've never had the media training that I think is
required in that job. Sometimes have no filter when they
(05:11):
talk about or a critical of a current player.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But yeah, I agree, because you know, there's been times
where I've told you, like, I'm not a big fan,
even though I know he was a NBA player and
I think a champion with the Celtics. But like Kendrick Perkins,
I don't care what Kendrick Perkins has to say regardless
of how many years he was in the NBA because
(05:36):
he needs the media training, like you were, like you're saying,
because there's so many times that he just says the
most outlandish things that you would think that this is
something that Joe Schmoe would you know, Oh, well, the
Spurs should just trade Yaka Pertle for Lebron James kind
of a thing. And it's I find it hilarious when
(05:56):
he gets put in his place by the actual analyst guys,
the actual guys that have to actually work at doing
to become good and get where they're at. Bobby Marks,
for instance, when the whole during the trade deadline even
talking about, oh, well the Warriors should trade Steph Curry
or to the Denver Nuggets, and he's like, well, that's
(06:20):
not gonna happen because not only can they not trade
Jamal Murray because they just paid him, they're not going
to trade Yokich, they can't trade Aaron Gordon. They're not
going to trade it. And it was like, so you're
only gonna be able to trade like some guy who's
the fifteenth guy off the bench, and he just has
the most dumbfounded look, like I can't believe you just
showed me up on national TV. Then don't say stupid things.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
See I think too often, and especially in television, the announcers,
the play by play guys, or the non sports fan
are the non sports player. The ex player doesn't feel
like they have the credibility to comment on.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
How a play was run.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And in my position with UTSA, except on home games
where I have Tim Carter, I don't have the luxury
to have a color analyst describe every play. And part
of my responsibility, I think is if I see something
I don't understand, I ask somebody. I asked the player,
(07:23):
I asked the coach, Hey, what's the method of the
madness here? Why are you doing that? So that I
can relate that to the broadcast when I'm doing it,
and when I do a talk show, it's somewhat similar
in that I very That's why I don't ever criticize
coaches for play calling, because I've never called plays. And
there's a reason why. On for a second and seventeen
(07:45):
they run a running play, And the biggest reason why
is is that the analytics suggests that if you have
a penalty or a sack on first down, and you
have second and seventeen, the odds of you making first
down are about four percent. So they're gonna play the
odds and they're gonna run it twice, so they're gonna
do something that keeps the clock running, so they keep
(08:06):
their defense on the bench a little longer before they
punt it and the fans boo on second and seventeen
when they run a draw play up the middle and
don't throw it downfield and try to get those yards back.
And if you're in desperation or late in the game
and you're behind.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You have to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But if it's the first quarter and your defense is
constantly on the field, you're gonna be You're gonna you're
gonna wear them out before you even get to the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, I know that from.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Years being around coaches who have told me that that
there are reasons why we run a run, a running
play on second down along because we want to run
clock and we want to extend the possession. And if
we break one for thirteen, now it's third down and six,
and maybe we can make the our third down and four,
we maybe we can make the first down. And I
don't think it's a bad thing for the lead guy
(08:53):
to say that. I don't think the player always has
to be the one to say it, because they may
not think to say it because it's just and nately
in their brain that's what we always do, and so
why wouldn't everybody else expect that? So, but I find
it interesting that a lot of the NBA guys in
the media are critical of the media, and now the
(09:13):
media is there is the players that they idolized and
grew up to want to be like, and now they're
upset with the Kendrick Perkinses of the world because they
have an opinion on something that you're doing that's different
than the way that they did it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
If you want the ex player to be the analyst
or to have an opinion on something, then you're going
to have to live with whatever he thinks should happen
or whatever his opinion is.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, it goes back to like how you and I
talk about all the time is two. There's nothing wrong
with having friendships within football, baseball, basketball or whatever, but
it's understanding that, hey, when you're on the court, when
you're during those times, you're not friends anymore. We always
constantly bring up the Olympics with Kobe Bryant running through
(09:58):
his teammate at the time, Gasol and Lebron and Dwayne Wade,
like oh you know, oh crap, you just did that
to your teammates. He's like he and my teammates today, Like,
these aren't your friends on those times?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Kobe Bryant and Paul Gasaw's playing for Spain, I'm running
through his chest. Yeah, it says USA right here, Lake
and not Spain exactly. We're not teammates today. We will
be next in a little while, but we're not right now,
a couple of months from now, we'll be friends again.
And I think that's missing from a lot of sports,
and I think it may be in golf. It's good
(10:32):
because like when if Jordan Speith is in contention on Sunday,
you're probably gonna seek guys like Bud Colly and Ricky
Fowler if they're still around watching him finish, to congratulate him.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
If Tiger Woods was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Winning a golf tournament twenty years ago, me nobody there
because they didn't like him, and Tiger wouldn't be there
to congratulate Phil because E didn't like Phil. But we
have this this people that grow up playing junior golf together,
traveling in tournaments together.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean Justin and George Beith there best.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Friends, and they play together in Ryder Cups and President's Cups.
So they're gonna root for each other if the other
one's out of contention, and they certainly want to beat
the other guy if they're not, but they're gonna be
glad for their friend if they win. And I think
that's getting into basketball as well, and not necessarily the
best thing for rivalries in the league. All Right, We're
gonna get into some golf talk coming up in a
(11:22):
little bit. We'll also got a few other NFL and
NBA things to get to in the six o'clock hour,
some more Anthony Edwards fodder to share with you coming
up to.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's five point thirteen. It's the Andy Everage Show. On
the ticket
We go into our number two of the program. We're
live with the Valero Texas Open. Thank you for spending
your afternoon with us. Jordan Speech just picked up a
birdie on the fourteenth hole, I believe, and he has
moved a three under par.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He's got a few more holes to play to get
it in.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I don't think he's going to Keith catch Keith Mitchell
today who shot sixty four and did not berdie the
par fives on the back nine, but a great round
for him. Sam Riders moved in now to second place
at minus seven, and there's lots of stars at the
top of that leaderboard as far as this field is concerned.
Last I checked to Deki Matziyama was having a struggle today.
(00:43):
He was at two over. But Tommy Fleetwood is in
the mix. I picked him yesterday. Keigan Bradley was off
to a good start earlier, and I told you to
watch out for Rio Hassatsune because he's a two under par.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Last time I checked as.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, he DECKI has a stroke and he is plus
one now at tied for nineteen thirty fourteen through fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yes, sir, yeah, they're playing fifteen right now now. All right, Yeah,
he and speak they're playing together. He needs to get
a couple of birdies coming in. He'll have chances at
seventeen and eighteen for sure, maybe sixteen two.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I saw this story on several different sources. Mostly it
was that NBA players are getting more and more disgruntled
at the NBA media coverage, and I started thinking about, Okay,
who's covering the NBA from a media standpoint? And you
still have your traditional writers and national guys that work
(01:38):
for newspapers and for print and blogging and all that
kind of stuff. But the more that you turn on
the TV and watch ESPN or Fox or the NBA TV,
you usually have a host who never has an opinion
on anything, and you have a whole bunch of ex
players who have all the opinions, and those opinions are
(01:59):
considered now what the media is talking about now, I
think it would be as good.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I think Arnie Johnson occasionally has an opinion, but he
usually gives way to the three others on the panel.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You know, the ESPN crew is whoever hosts it, there's
usually three or four players with them on the on
the set and they give way to the players to
give their opinions on things.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And this is going to be going on for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And it used to be, well, if you're not a player,
you can't get into the media.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Business and comment on games.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And fortunately, except for when T and T used to
do that ridiculous players only thing, there is somebody to
lead the ship. I think those broadcasts struggled because there
was no leader that was directing the show. And while
athletes certainly know a lot about the game, and some
do a very good job of translating into English to
the people who are watching, you still need somebody to
(02:57):
drive the boat. And that's why you have of Kevin
Harlan or Brian Anderson on the national stage or.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Mike Breen.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Those guys they know how to get the players that's
now the analyst to be able to talk about stuff.
And I don't think that there's time in a game
for players that are doing color commentary to be overcritical
of what's happening on the floor or in general.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In a player's life.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
But the panels on the pre and postgame shows and
on the TV talk shows with Steven A. Smith, and
now you have some of the former WNBA players that
are on those panels, they're the ones that are giving
you opinions on what players.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Do and should do and should not do.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And I find it kind of interesting that we're starting
to see some current players have problems with ex players.
Why are you always saying this is the way we
did it back in my day, this is the twenty
twenty fives.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
We don't care how you did it back then. We
do it differently. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You didn't shoot threes, we shoot threes. You didn't shoot
transition threes, We do that as well. But I think
there's also some reluctance sometimes for ex players to be
critical of current players and for current players to throw
X players under the bus, because in a lot of ways,
it's those players that they idolized. So I don't I
(04:26):
would like to see more, I don't know, more credibility.
And maybe the players have the most credibility because they've
actually done it, and that's the reason why I think
they've been hired in the vein that they have been.
But I think there's a lot of non players that
could do that job well and analyze things and have
(04:50):
opinions on things, and that's what talk show hosts do.
My deal every day is to find things that I
think you're going to be interested in and give you
opinions on players I think need to have a that
I've never had the media training that I think is
required in that job. Sometimes have no filter when they
(05:11):
talk about or a critical of a current player.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But yeah, I agree, because you know, there's been times
where I've told you, like, I'm not a big fan,
even though I know he was a NBA player and
I think a champion with the Celtics. But like Kendrick Perkins,
I don't care what Kendrick Perkins has to say regardless
of how many years he was in the NBA because
(05:36):
he needs the media training, like you were, like you're saying,
because there's so many times that he just says the
most outlandish things that you would think that this is
something that Joe Schmoe would you know, Oh, well, the
Spurs should just trade Yaka Pertle for Lebron James kind
of a thing. And it's I find it hilarious when
(05:56):
he gets put in his place by the actual analyst guys,
the actual guys that have to actually work at doing
to become good and get where they're at. Bobby Marks,
for instance, when the whole during the trade deadline even
talking about, oh, well the Warriors should trade Steph Curry
or to the Denver Nuggets, and he's like, well, that's
(06:20):
not gonna happen because not only can they not trade
Jamal Murray because they just paid him, they're not going
to trade Yokich, they can't trade Aaron Gordon. They're not
going to trade it. And it was like, so you're
only gonna be able to trade like some guy who's
the fifteenth guy off the bench, and he just has
the most dumbfounded look, like I can't believe you just
showed me up on national TV. Then don't say stupid things.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
See I think too often, and especially in television, the announcers,
the play by play guys, or the non sports fan
are the non sports player. The ex player doesn't feel
like they have the credibility to comment on.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
How a play was run.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And in my position with UTSA, except on home games
where I have Tim Carter, I don't have the luxury
to have a color analyst describe every play. And part
of my responsibility, I think is if I see something
I don't understand, I ask somebody. I asked the player,
(07:23):
I asked the coach, Hey, what's the method of the
madness here? Why are you doing that? So that I
can relate that to the broadcast when I'm doing it,
and when I do a talk show, it's somewhat similar
in that I very That's why I don't ever criticize
coaches for play calling, because I've never called plays. And
there's a reason why. On for a second and seventeen
(07:45):
they run a running play, And the biggest reason why
is is that the analytics suggests that if you have
a penalty or a sack on first down, and you
have second and seventeen, the odds of you making first
down are about four percent. So they're gonna play the
odds and they're gonna run it twice, so they're gonna
do something that keeps the clock running, so they keep
(08:06):
their defense on the bench a little longer before they
punt it and the fans boo on second and seventeen
when they run a draw play up the middle and
don't throw it downfield and try to get those yards back.
And if you're in desperation or late in the game
and you're behind.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You have to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But if it's the first quarter and your defense is
constantly on the field, you're gonna be You're gonna you're
gonna wear them out before you even get to the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, I know that from.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Years being around coaches who have told me that that
there are reasons why we run a run, a running
play on second down along because we want to run
clock and we want to extend the possession. And if
we break one for thirteen, now it's third down and six,
and maybe we can make the our third down and four,
we maybe we can make the first down. And I
don't think it's a bad thing for the lead guy
(08:53):
to say that. I don't think the player always has
to be the one to say it, because they may
not think to say it because it's just and nately
in their brain that's what we always do, and so
why wouldn't everybody else expect that? So, but I find
it interesting that a lot of the NBA guys in
the media are critical of the media, and now the
(09:13):
media is there is the players that they idolized and
grew up to want to be like, and now they're
upset with the Kendrick Perkinses of the world because they
have an opinion on something that you're doing that's different
than the way that they did it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
If you want the ex player to be the analyst
or to have an opinion on something, then you're going
to have to live with whatever he thinks should happen
or whatever his opinion is.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, it goes back to like how you and I
talk about all the time is two. There's nothing wrong
with having friendships within football, baseball, basketball or whatever, but
it's understanding that, hey, when you're on the court, when
you're during those times, you're not friends anymore. We always
constantly bring up the Olympics with Kobe Bryant running through
(09:58):
his teammate at the time, Gasol and Lebron and Dwayne Wade,
like oh you know, oh crap, you just did that
to your teammates. He's like he and my teammates today, Like,
these aren't your friends on those times?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Kobe Bryant and Paul Gasaw's playing for Spain, I'm running
through his chest. Yeah, it says USA right here, Lake
and not Spain exactly. We're not teammates today. We will
be next in a little while, but we're not right now,
a couple of months from now, we'll be friends again.
And I think that's missing from a lot of sports,
and I think it may be in golf. It's good
(10:32):
because like when if Jordan Speith is in contention on Sunday,
you're probably gonna seek guys like Bud Colly and Ricky
Fowler if they're still around watching him finish, to congratulate him.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
If Tiger Woods was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Winning a golf tournament twenty years ago, me nobody there
because they didn't like him, and Tiger wouldn't be there
to congratulate Phil because E didn't like Phil. But we
have this this people that grow up playing junior golf together,
traveling in tournaments together.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean Justin and George Beith there best.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Friends, and they play together in Ryder Cups and President's Cups.
So they're gonna root for each other if the other
one's out of contention, and they certainly want to beat
the other guy if they're not, but they're gonna be
glad for their friend if they win. And I think
that's getting into basketball as well, and not necessarily the
best thing for rivalries in the league. All Right, We're
gonna get into some golf talk coming up in a
(11:22):
little bit. We'll also got a few other NFL and
NBA things to get to in the six o'clock hour,
some more Anthony Edwards fodder to share with you coming
up to.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's five point thirteen. It's the Andy Everage Show. On
the ticket
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