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April 8, 2025 12 mins
Have you ever wondered what it takes to pull off a perfect bank heist? In this riveting episode of The Bama Brown Experience, Bama Brown and Big Puma delve into the fascinating world of crime, cinema, and frugality. Join them as they discuss the enigmatic charm of Val Kilmer, his iconic roles, and the real-life heists inspired by Hollywood.

The episode kicks off with a heartfelt reflection on Val Kilmer's career, highlighting his versatility from playing Doc Holliday to Jim Morrison. Bama and Puma share their favorite Kilmer moments, including his unforgettable performance in Heat. They explore how Kilmer's portrayal of a career criminal was so convincing that it inspired actual bank robbers.

Transitioning from Hollywood to real-life crime, the hosts recount the story of a man who meticulously planned his bank heists based on research, aiming to save years of financial struggle. This leads to a broader discussion on the lengths people go to for financial security and the consequences of their actions.

In the latter part of the episode, Bama and Puma shift gears to discuss frugal living. They share a list of items people have cut back on to save money, from food delivery to concert tickets. The conversation is peppered with humor and personal anecdotes, making it both informative and entertaining.

Don't miss out on this engaging episode filled with intriguing stories and practical tips. Subscribe to The Bama Brown Experience on your favorite podcast platform, leave a review, and share the episode with friends who love a good mix of crime, cinema, and frugality.

Tune in now to discover the unexpected connections between Hollywood and real-life heists, and learn how to live more frugally without sacrificing fun!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hey, you can see the Big Cat in person. You
want to see well on a video anyway or on
the screen. So I uh, oh, I just I was
so sad about Val Kilmer this week.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know, it was just yeah, just about I always
liked him.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I mean it was just a little weird in a
lot of ways, but I always thought he was always
thought he's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
He was the perfect amount of weird. He was weird
where it's like, man, he's still such a cool dude
with just that little bit of weird, that little kind
of mystery and the rain of roles, I mean from
everything everything you know, Doc Holliday, uh, top gun Pilot

(01:07):
my favorite role, hands down.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I love him as Jim Morrison. I mean the lizard
ring and the elevator, come on, I mean, that's that's
an iconic image scene from my childhood. But his role
in Heat is one of my favorite, my favorite pieces
of acting up. I mean the way the way he
actually makes you feel like you're not watching an actor

(01:31):
playing a bank robbert, you're watching an absolute career criminal
pull off a heist. I mean that way the way
he hands in that in that in the high scene
as they're doing the shootout in the middle of the street,
that one, that one hurt. That one hurt quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
That was after after it actually had happened. They based
that whole movie on that. That that whole you know,
real shootout where they've got like going to the gun
store but we're out gunned over uh.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
That was literally the pushing the jumping off point to
militarize our police forces in America. They were they had
just had little pistols.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
And they had they actually trained with SWAT to do
that movie. So they looked like they knew and they
looked like they knew what they were doing with those guns.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean it was I mean, Michaelman, the director of that,
could not have done In fact, a couple of months
after Heat came out on VHS, there were a couple
of dudes who tried to do a very similar bank heist,
And when the cops raided their house, or when they
searched their house after they had caught him, they found

(02:40):
a copy of Heat in the r The guys had
literally been watching and had based their heist off of
the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
That reminds me of the guy. There was a guy
that robbed a bank one time.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I remember doing this on air and when they and
they and they busted him. He did a few banks,
he got several uh he was unarmed, and when they
got him, he had no criminal record whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
But on his computer it was, you know, how to
rob a bank or whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
But he had figured out how much time he would
get versus how long it would take him to make
He cleared about two fifty I mean in that quarter
of a million bucks in less than three months, and
they got him, and it would have taken him he
figured somewhere around fifteen years to save up two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars is years ago, of course, and

(03:33):
then his jail send. It's absolute minimum that he would
get because no previous record. No, you know, he's not
going to do anything when he gets in jail.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
It was seven years.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
He would be out in seven years, and they had
to absolutely put him in minimum security because he hadn't
done any violent crime. So he he qualified. So he
was he was eight years ahead of where he thought
he would be financially in life.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So what happens with the money. Surely the state gets
their hands on.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
He didn't give the money back. He kept the money,
and that.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
You had spectacular They you know, they of course they'll
watch him forever, you know, and at some point he'll
he'll buy something.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's the problem with it. You they watch it, you know,
they watch it forever. If you do stuff like they
take it personally. Ain't kidding around for sure, but dumb.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't think I'm trading seven years of my life
for a quarter of a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Still, No, of.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Course not because at some point you're you know, of
course you'll have a boyfriend and all that kind of stuff,
you know, and you'll.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Be the girl and lock that you can be on video, wear.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
This mop on your head and so you look like
a girl for it. I don't want to do. Yeah,
I have met Sadie Hawkins. Stay there's at night.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think I'll stay poor. Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And I know a couple of prison guards and they
don't seem motivated to stop that kind of behavior. And
they're like, yeah, whatever, man, you're in prison.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's what I heard the other day about one of
those detailed He's.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Like, we don't get to do anything, we don't go outside,
and then and go yeah, it's called prison and you're
in it.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So your stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
But you was talking about the money, and now reminded me.
I saw the Frugal People had to Save Money list
came out.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
No, but it feels like something I absolutely should see.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, you and I are both we're both trying to
live the as we get older.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Now you're not old, but I am. And as you
get older, you.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Want to be a little more frugal, and not just
because you don't want to end up eating cat food
at some point.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh but I'm still at thirty nine years old, I'm
somehow still finding myself. Not i'man not by definition living
to paycheck to paycheck. But if I've got money, there's
a good chance it's getting spent on Sumpty Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, here's this is a list that people said, you know,
because it's a little lean out there, here's what they said.
They gave up number seven. I'm just gonna go down
the list here. Seven was food delivery. Now, I know
a lot of people are still doing that, but we
don't do that here.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
The uh one of the companies is allowing you to
basically put it on layaway now and right the Taco
Bell burrito on a payment plan.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
That's not good if you if you're having to finance
your Taco Bell, you've made a vocational error.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Somewhere in your past.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Finance a waterbed, another thing to finance the chiloopa UH.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Number six with dog toys, So I guess they just
go here.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know, they're just keep licking yourself. I guess your entertainment.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
How much? How much money are you spending a month
on dog toys? That right back allows you to save
a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And I don't know who are they checking here with
all this stuff. But another one that I thought was odd,
but number five real Christmas trees. So this could be
they probably did this survey back around Christmas time.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's and that would have been, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Uh. Number four I disagree with as much as you
can paper towels. I can't live without paper towels, man,
we use them. I use paper towels all day long,
every day.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I guess, I guess you could maybe convince me,
like some houses have napkins and paper towels, so if
you were having one or the other, maybe, But yeah,
I I gotta have paper towel.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
What do you like with like a regular cloth, like
a regular rag or something, or towel that you dry
your hands with.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's what I'm always thinking about.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
But I wash my hands a lot just because I'm
Howard Hughes with germs.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I'm just nuts, Like, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Number three cigarettes, Yeah, how do you cut back on cigarettes?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
You don't? I mean, if you got the monkey, you
got the monkey, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I had a bad feeling that multiple of my vices
would make appearances on this list, and there's there's one
of them. I don't buy real Christmas trees, but I
am still a habitual smoker, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
But you're very thin and uh, and you're still fit,
you know, makes a big difference. Concert tickets was number
two a lot of them have cut back on the
expensive concert tickets.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I can testify to that last weekend to a comedy show.
She's a national touring artist, but no one that big
Taylor Tomlinson, the girl that does that night show after Colbert. Yeah,
national name. But you know it was at one of
these nice downtown theaters in San Antonio. It was one
hundred and forty bucks a ticket.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, sir, no, no, I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
You could save serious mundy. But at the same time,
I would rather pay for experiences than pay for products, right,
I'd rather go to a concert than spend one hundred
and forty dollars of crap from Amazon.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
See.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I did that this this last year. You know that
in Pala. I was driving that sixty four in Pala.
My buddy had it, and I put a couple thousand
in it to get it running and driving for him.
And then he had no interest. And I didn't know
if he'd ever get his interest back or not. But
I drove it for a year and a half and.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I loved it. I drove it every morning, you remember,
I'd drive a.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Breakfast, you know, and it's sixty four SS and pallah
and I was even thinking about putting a four o
nine in it. I love I love that car. Man,
I put the disc brakes on her. Have my guy
put this brakes. I do his paint work, he does
my mechanical so it works out good for us. But
I put the disc brakes on in the power steering. Man,
it drove, it rode so nice and uh, but to
me that was an EXPEDI I was like going on

(09:20):
and spending money on a vacation. People go, man, I
can't believe you put that a couple of grand in
that car and then gave it back to him after
a year and a half. And I said, no, I
enjoyed that car for a year and a half and
then here you And he's a buddy of mine, so
you know, I the don't even gave him two grand anyway. Uh,
gave it back to him a month ago. He hadn't
driven it. Since it's still just sitting and I'm yelling

(09:41):
at him, I go, at least go out there and
crank it. You got to drive an old car once
a month to keep all the fluids moving in the
gas burning and all that, and that car will never
get driven again. I'll spend another three or four grand
on it. When he passes away and his daughter has
me come over and buy that car, and I know
I will. I just know it's gonna happen. He's quite
a bit older than me. But anyway, I wish you
would get back to driving it. But that's that goes

(10:02):
along with you. Number one, let's finish the list. Number
one was bottled water. People are not buying as much
bottled water. They're just going to the faucet.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So there video evidence where it is vouch for me.
I am using an actual furmous, old school thermous full
of water because that is that. That's another one that
anytime I would go into a gasta, I don't drink cokes.
I don't. The only sugar I drink is sweet tea,
So when I go into a gas station, I'm not

(10:30):
unless they have fresh brewed sweet tea. I'm usually grabbing
a bottle of water to go with my cigarettes. I
got I eliminated number one, so I'm doing something right.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Hey good, Well, everybody everybody I know that quit smoking.
The King just hated it, so I would.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Not work existence the few weeks I have gone over
the last twenty years without them have not been fun.
One thing I thought would appear on this list, and
it's arguably it's the if I was being introspective and
trying to find what I could specifically cut that would

(11:09):
save a lot of money. I have a bad habit
of going to the coffee shop first thing every morning.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
That adds up, it adds real fast.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
And I'm not buying any of these you know, fruity,
you know, mocha, maacha, like any I just get a
quad shot of espresso. That's it every day, you know,
no cold bruise, no none of that other stuff that's
still you know, five five bucks, and then I tip
a buck that's yeh today. Five days a week, that's

(11:41):
thirty bucks a week. It's one hundred and twenty bucks,
one hundred and fifty bucks a month.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's how it adds up.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I'm spending almost two thousand dollars on coffee every year.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
However, I don't want to work with you if you
hadn't had your coffee.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
And you don't want to work with me if I
haven't had a heater sugar.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So apparently I'm going to be buying the cigarettes and
the coffee for the Big Puma because I don't want
him put me in a.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Choke hold going here here, get to get here.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, he's a sweetheart. He never do that. All right.
You're listening to the.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Beam and Brown Experience along with the Big Puma, the
Big Cat on the iHeart Podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Thank you very much,
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