April 9, 2025 • 11 mins
Can Mavericks fans cheer for Luka while rooting against the Lakers? The Ben and Skin Show navigates the complex feelings surrounding Luka's return to Dallas. In this episode, Ben and Skin dive into the heart of the matter, discussing the mixed emotions of Mavericks fans as they prepare to face their former star player. The hosts share their personal anxieties and excitement about the game, creating a relatable and engaging atmosphere for listeners. Listeners will be captivated by the detailed analysis of the game's significance, including the potential impact on the Mavericks' playoff chances and the broader implications for the team's future.
Notable quotes from the episode:
Notable quotes from the episode:
- "You can't ask us to fall in love with this guy, rip our hearts out, and then expect us to immediately not still be in love with him." - Ben
- "I'm rooting for the Mavericks, but I'm also rooting for Luka. That's our guy." - Skin
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is the Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point
one the Eagle, and it is a crazy day, a
lot of emotions for the people of the df DUB.
But we got something for you, and that's Rollertown Beer Works,
the brewery that Ben and I are partners in up
there in Salina, Texas tonight. That's a great place to
go watch the game because not only is it the
(00:22):
home of Recovery Beer in honor of Luke, you can
recover with twenty percent off all of our canned beers. Ben,
this is our five year anniversary we called our Canniversary
when we had to open during the pandemic only selling
canned beers, and so we have twenty percent off all
of our canned beers while supplies last, and some of
them are going to go pretty quick. This is the
(00:43):
first day of this, so get up there if you're
in the northern Urbs, watch the game up there, have
a Recovery beer, and celebrate Canniversary. It's a great place
to feel close to your favorite local basketball team at
a time like this. That's therapeutic and let's all get
together for some group therapy. And there's a whole wall
in there dedicated to dirty. It's Dirk Wall there's a
beard dedicated to Dirk the big German. So it's a
(01:04):
good place to beat to watch a game like this.
Absolutely it is right now, it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
This thing's big. It's big. You guys gonna go the
game tonight?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Uh yeah, I'm actually about to kick down the door
and sprint there.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So I'm uh, I'm really on the fence. I'm on
the fence about this. Emotionally, I'm on the fence about this. Financially,
I you know, for me to go to this game,
I can't sit in the upper bowl. I'm too bougie.
So for me, the cheapest seat in the lower bowl
is about six hundred and fifty bucks. Now I have
(01:44):
a media credential to get into the game, so I
could get into the game for free, I would just
roam about, which I don't love, and I'm not sure
if I can find my media credential. Dude, how come
no one ever says I'm on the gate about this.
It's always on the fence. Well, the gate is the
part that swings open and then you'd fall off if
(02:05):
somebody opened it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh interesting, I thought the gate was like a different
style of fence, like a chain leak gate.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's also the gate is the part that swings open
and closed. And a gate is also the way that
people like you remember when you commented on how much
Katie's gate was sexy. Yeah, the gallop, the way they
yes that felled g A I T What about you?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Guys? Are Katie and Christina going, I'm going, Oh, I'm
going the way she's dressed seats, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Like? Yeah, and like skin, I'm gonna like bolt there
and get there as fast as I can because I'm
sure people are already, you know, pack in the I
almost said stadium, pack in the arena.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's the second, the second that I got out of
my car way far away from you because someone took
my parking space. I could tell Christina was going to
the game because of how she's dressed.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You're saying she got all dolled up for work today,
she got she.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Got Luca dolled up. There's a specific kind of dolled up.
There's dolled up for concerts. There's dolled up for MAV game.
She got Luca.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Dolde Luca. We'll see if Luca plays. How come you
won't answer the question, Kevin, I'll be there. Oh, let's
go media credential man.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I like to go up into the press box and
get some of the corn and I sit next to Peasley,
Corella and Tim Cato Okay, whip their ass.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Do you mind if I go and shadow you and
critique everything you do over the course of the night.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay, I'm glad you. Honestly you should do that. You
should find your press passes, go up to the press
box with me. Yeah, because me and our buddy Matt
from from MAVs Studio forty one, we all do TV
shows for the MAVs and you know, uh, you can
watch them all this week. Great crossover episode that Porch
Basin did. How do you say his last name, physic?
Because I've heard Chiswick a couple of times. I say
(03:45):
Chiswick even if he says it the other way. I
think that makes more sense. I'm gonna start going to Chiswick. Yeah,
I think a physic.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I'm not gonna think.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, we're mapping out a bit because guess who's got
to be back at the arena on Friday night for
iHeart karaoke cam duties. That's right, why Cavio, So me
and Matt are gonna map out a bit, you know,
maybe a karaoke camp because you know, most fans don't
have the pleasure to understand what it's like to see
(04:13):
to be the featured guest.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
On karaoke cam.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Right, I would say more than most fans, I'd say
every fan does not know what it's like, since it's
usually just an iHeart employee art.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's true, it's not always that though. When it's not that,
it's very shippy. They still they turned the camera away
after three seconds. I even asked last time, is like,
do I even really need to do it? Because the
camera guy just goes to the crowd. But so, the
reason I'm doing it tonight is because last time they
canceled it because it was in the aftermath of the trade.
(04:48):
You're not doing it tonight, You're doing it Friday, doing
it Friday night, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
With regard to tonight, emotions are high. Emotions have been
high since the moment this trade happened to where everybody
in the world thought this is fake, This is a
fake Shalm's account. No one has been able to make
sense of this. I've never seen one person, no one
person anywhere say yep, this trade makes sense. It's a
great trade unless it's in the Lakers favor. And so
(05:14):
the fact that this city, this town, this fan base
was so in love with this guy that Devin Booker says,
when you land, you can feel it. It's all different.
I mean, he can Dirk, Dirk goes to uh Dirk.
You know, you don't see Dirk at MAVs games, but
you see Dirk at a Laker game, at Luca's first
Laker game.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So will Dirk return to the arena tonight?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's like the emotions could not be higher.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I don't even know if we all know what
to root for, Like we're all rooting for Luca.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I'd be I'm not I'm rooting for the Mavericks. I'd
be real surprised if Dirk wasn't here tonight, because I
don't know, man, I think he would send such a
weird message to be there in La and not be
there in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But it also we'll send a message if Dirk is
there tonight. Okay, he's been been there in a long time,
but he's there for Luca. H that's powerful.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Too.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, that's a good point. Whoof, But no, I will
definitely be rooting for the Mavericks. They have an outside,
it's very outside chance of securing the number nine seed
in the playing which would be good. It'd be good
to not have to fly to Sacramento. But man, that's
a very outside chance, right. They gotta win tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
But like, I'm rooting for the Mavericks too, but I'm
also rooting for Luca. Like, I don't know that I'm
rooting for the Lakers. I don't want them to win.
I just I'm rooting for Luca. Man, that's our guy.
You can't ask us to fall in love with this
guy and rip our hearts out and trade him and
then expect us to immediately not still be in love
with the guy. And I think that's what the Metroplex
is feeling. I think that's why this is so huge.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, And I also think there's one nice little side
effect of all of this for you know, mav fans,
because they are paying at ten to the Lakers now,
it's a unique opportunity for them to fall in love
with Austin Reeves. Yeah, I feel like he has flown
under Maverick fans radars in a.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Way, and he shouldn't have He should have been in
the trade. Like it didn't Windhorse say it was malpractice
not to have him in the deal. Obviously that changes
the deal, but it's like, how's he not in this deal?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know, that would have been cooler if Windhorse said
that when the trade happened, as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I told you guys he was out of shape.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Whinhurst did that for a week and now that he's
realized everyone's on the other side of this, it is
malpractice that they didn't get that little white guy in return.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
He's such a grand standard. You're minimizing him as you
also hype him up.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Windhurst. No, no, no, I've been on team Austin Reeves forever.
He's one of the best stories. He's also a scratch golfer, undrafted,
incredible value.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Did you watch an Austin Reeves documentary or no.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He's been one of the best stories in the NBA
like the last two or three years.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But it's with Elon on your Bingo card every day, so.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You ever like cause you get the Bingos square for free.
And so if I knock out Elon Austin Reeves and
Porky's and there's.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Really only brain Candy in there.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh yeah, do you guys see brain Candy? I think
the the that's true. That's also on the bingo card.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think about the last night I felt this way,
And we mentioned this earlier in the show six years ago,
on this day, Dirk's final home game. Right, So that
was a night where you just felt like you had
to be there. You need to be in the stadium. Sure,
you could watch it on TV, you can listen to
it on the radio, all those things. But there's some
magic and being at events like this, you know, whether
(08:41):
it's some Nolan Ryan milestone or I don't know, some
huge playoff games, something significant going on locally, some massive thing,
feel compelled to be there. It pulls you like a
magnetic force. And in town, I say, that's not the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It depends on what time of year it is.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If it's close sure to the trade deadline, it's intense
for KT.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
For you, it's like Morgan Wallen or Jelly Roll being
in town. You have to be at that concert.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Gotta be there, man, those are the guys who played
the most three basic three chords.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yep, yeah, that was not well executed.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
There's never there's never been a game like this in
the history of Dallas Fort Worth. There's nothing maybe sports,
maybe sports. There's really nothing to compare it to because
even like when you know, Babe Ruth got traded, Uh,
nobody went to baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Games back then. They had to work.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, well, they were just waiting for the economy to recover.
It's a lot like now. But but there's never been
anything like this, and the players are behind the scenes
acknowledging there's never been anything like this. They expect to
not be the home team.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Usually a return of a player that's been traded, yeah,
or something like that. It is a nasty thing. Yeah,
it's never this like open arms welcome. It's usually bigger
than our team.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's usually the player that requests the trade of a
superstar leaves like that and you don't ever trade him
if they are not requesting a trade in their twenty
five Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Think like even like the Lebron comparisons are so way off.
You know, when Lebron left for Miami, people burned his
jersey from Cleveland. Nobody was outside burning a Luca jersey.
They were like they were doing nasty things to the
home of the GM Like, there's never been a game
like this in which a home team is playing in
(10:31):
its building and it's almost going to feel like a
neutral site at best. Yeah, and it's getting ready to
come up right here on ninety seven point one the Eagle.
I'm sure we will be talking about this tomorrow. Thank
you for hanging out with us today. I'll never forget
the time KT had the chance to look Luca dead
in the eye and he said.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Maybe you've lost a step, need a little more energy
the low T center. There is something you should maybe
try out.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If only you had done that, we would have been
able to keep all right, Mavericks postgame, Mavericks pregame rather
is up next right here on night some point won
the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There you going, You're all I'm in a recovered beer, alright,
It is the Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point
one the Eagle, and it is a crazy day, a
lot of emotions for the people of the df DUB.
But we got something for you, and that's Rollertown Beer Works,
the brewery that Ben and I are partners in up
there in Salina, Texas tonight. That's a great place to
go watch the game because not only is it the
(00:22):
home of Recovery Beer in honor of Luke, you can
recover with twenty percent off all of our canned beers. Ben,
this is our five year anniversary we called our Canniversary
when we had to open during the pandemic only selling
canned beers, and so we have twenty percent off all
of our canned beers while supplies last, and some of
them are going to go pretty quick. This is the
(00:43):
first day of this, so get up there if you're
in the northern Urbs, watch the game up there, have
a Recovery beer, and celebrate Canniversary. It's a great place
to feel close to your favorite local basketball team at
a time like this. That's therapeutic and let's all get
together for some group therapy. And there's a whole wall
in there dedicated to dirty. It's Dirk Wall there's a
beard dedicated to Dirk the big German. So it's a
(01:04):
good place to beat to watch a game like this.
Absolutely it is right now, it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
This thing's big. It's big. You guys gonna go the
game tonight?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Uh yeah, I'm actually about to kick down the door
and sprint there.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So I'm uh, I'm really on the fence. I'm on
the fence about this. Emotionally, I'm on the fence about this. Financially,
I you know, for me to go to this game,
I can't sit in the upper bowl. I'm too bougie.
So for me, the cheapest seat in the lower bowl
is about six hundred and fifty bucks. Now I have
(01:44):
a media credential to get into the game, so I
could get into the game for free, I would just
roam about, which I don't love, and I'm not sure
if I can find my media credential. Dude, how come
no one ever says I'm on the gate about this.
It's always on the fence. Well, the gate is the
part that swings open and then you'd fall off if
(02:05):
somebody opened it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh interesting, I thought the gate was like a different
style of fence, like a chain leak gate.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's also the gate is the part that swings open
and closed. And a gate is also the way that
people like you remember when you commented on how much
Katie's gate was sexy. Yeah, the gallop, the way they
yes that felled g A I T What about you?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Guys? Are Katie and Christina going, I'm going, Oh, I'm
going the way she's dressed seats, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Like? Yeah, and like skin, I'm gonna like bolt there
and get there as fast as I can because I'm
sure people are already, you know, pack in the I
almost said stadium, pack in the arena.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's the second, the second that I got out of
my car way far away from you because someone took
my parking space. I could tell Christina was going to
the game because of how she's dressed.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You're saying she got all dolled up for work today,
she got she.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Got Luca dolled up. There's a specific kind of dolled up.
There's dolled up for concerts. There's dolled up for MAV game.
She got Luca.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Dolde Luca. We'll see if Luca plays. How come you
won't answer the question, Kevin, I'll be there. Oh, let's
go media credential man.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I like to go up into the press box and
get some of the corn and I sit next to Peasley,
Corella and Tim Cato Okay, whip their ass.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Do you mind if I go and shadow you and
critique everything you do over the course of the night.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay, I'm glad you. Honestly you should do that. You
should find your press passes, go up to the press
box with me. Yeah, because me and our buddy Matt
from from MAVs Studio forty one, we all do TV
shows for the MAVs and you know, uh, you can
watch them all this week. Great crossover episode that Porch
Basin did. How do you say his last name, physic?
Because I've heard Chiswick a couple of times. I say
(03:45):
Chiswick even if he says it the other way. I
think that makes more sense. I'm gonna start going to Chiswick. Yeah,
I think a physic.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I'm not gonna think.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, we're mapping out a bit because guess who's got
to be back at the arena on Friday night for
iHeart karaoke cam duties. That's right, why Cavio, So me
and Matt are gonna map out a bit, you know,
maybe a karaoke camp because you know, most fans don't
have the pleasure to understand what it's like to see
(04:13):
to be the featured guest.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
On karaoke cam.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Right, I would say more than most fans, I'd say
every fan does not know what it's like, since it's
usually just an iHeart employee art.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's true, it's not always that though. When it's not that,
it's very shippy. They still they turned the camera away
after three seconds. I even asked last time, is like,
do I even really need to do it? Because the
camera guy just goes to the crowd. But so, the
reason I'm doing it tonight is because last time they
canceled it because it was in the aftermath of the trade.
(04:48):
You're not doing it tonight, You're doing it Friday, doing
it Friday night, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
With regard to tonight, emotions are high. Emotions have been
high since the moment this trade happened to where everybody
in the world thought this is fake, This is a
fake Shalm's account. No one has been able to make
sense of this. I've never seen one person, no one
person anywhere say yep, this trade makes sense. It's a
great trade unless it's in the Lakers favor. And so
(05:14):
the fact that this city, this town, this fan base
was so in love with this guy that Devin Booker says,
when you land, you can feel it. It's all different.
I mean, he can Dirk, Dirk goes to uh Dirk.
You know, you don't see Dirk at MAVs games, but
you see Dirk at a Laker game, at Luca's first
Laker game.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So will Dirk return to the arena tonight?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's like the emotions could not be higher.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I don't even know if we all know what
to root for, Like we're all rooting for Luca.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I'd be I'm not I'm rooting for the Mavericks. I'd
be real surprised if Dirk wasn't here tonight, because I
don't know, man, I think he would send such a
weird message to be there in La and not be
there in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But it also we'll send a message if Dirk is
there tonight. Okay, he's been been there in a long time,
but he's there for Luca. H that's powerful.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Too.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, that's a good point. Whoof, But no, I will
definitely be rooting for the Mavericks. They have an outside,
it's very outside chance of securing the number nine seed
in the playing which would be good. It'd be good
to not have to fly to Sacramento. But man, that's
a very outside chance, right. They gotta win tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
But like, I'm rooting for the Mavericks too, but I'm
also rooting for Luca. Like, I don't know that I'm
rooting for the Lakers. I don't want them to win.
I just I'm rooting for Luca. Man, that's our guy.
You can't ask us to fall in love with this
guy and rip our hearts out and trade him and
then expect us to immediately not still be in love
with the guy. And I think that's what the Metroplex
is feeling. I think that's why this is so huge.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, And I also think there's one nice little side
effect of all of this for you know, mav fans,
because they are paying at ten to the Lakers now,
it's a unique opportunity for them to fall in love
with Austin Reeves. Yeah, I feel like he has flown
under Maverick fans radars in a.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Way, and he shouldn't have He should have been in
the trade. Like it didn't Windhorse say it was malpractice
not to have him in the deal. Obviously that changes
the deal, but it's like, how's he not in this deal?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know, that would have been cooler if Windhorse said
that when the trade happened, as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I told you guys he was out of shape.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Whinhurst did that for a week and now that he's
realized everyone's on the other side of this, it is
malpractice that they didn't get that little white guy in return.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
He's such a grand standard. You're minimizing him as you
also hype him up.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Windhurst. No, no, no, I've been on team Austin Reeves forever.
He's one of the best stories. He's also a scratch golfer, undrafted,
incredible value.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Did you watch an Austin Reeves documentary or no.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He's been one of the best stories in the NBA
like the last two or three years.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But it's with Elon on your Bingo card every day, so.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You ever like cause you get the Bingos square for free.
And so if I knock out Elon Austin Reeves and
Porky's and there's.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Really only brain Candy in there.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh yeah, do you guys see brain Candy? I think
the the that's true. That's also on the bingo card.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think about the last night I felt this way,
And we mentioned this earlier in the show six years ago,
on this day, Dirk's final home game. Right, So that
was a night where you just felt like you had
to be there. You need to be in the stadium. Sure,
you could watch it on TV, you can listen to
it on the radio, all those things. But there's some
magic and being at events like this, you know, whether
(08:41):
it's some Nolan Ryan milestone or I don't know, some
huge playoff games, something significant going on locally, some massive thing,
feel compelled to be there. It pulls you like a
magnetic force. And in town, I say, that's not the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It depends on what time of year it is.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If it's close sure to the trade deadline, it's intense
for KT.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
For you, it's like Morgan Wallen or Jelly Roll being
in town. You have to be at that concert.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Gotta be there, man, those are the guys who played
the most three basic three chords.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yep, yeah, that was not well executed.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
There's never there's never been a game like this in
the history of Dallas Fort Worth. There's nothing maybe sports,
maybe sports. There's really nothing to compare it to because
even like when you know, Babe Ruth got traded, Uh,
nobody went to baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Games back then. They had to work.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, well, they were just waiting for the economy to recover.
It's a lot like now. But but there's never been
anything like this, and the players are behind the scenes
acknowledging there's never been anything like this. They expect to
not be the home team.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Usually a return of a player that's been traded, yeah,
or something like that. It is a nasty thing. Yeah,
it's never this like open arms welcome. It's usually bigger
than our team.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's usually the player that requests the trade of a
superstar leaves like that and you don't ever trade him
if they are not requesting a trade in their twenty
five Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Think like even like the Lebron comparisons are so way off.
You know, when Lebron left for Miami, people burned his
jersey from Cleveland. Nobody was outside burning a Luca jersey.
They were like they were doing nasty things to the
home of the GM Like, there's never been a game
like this in which a home team is playing in
(10:31):
its building and it's almost going to feel like a
neutral site at best. Yeah, and it's getting ready to
come up right here on ninety seven point one the Eagle.
I'm sure we will be talking about this tomorrow. Thank
you for hanging out with us today. I'll never forget
the time KT had the chance to look Luca dead
in the eye and he said.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Maybe you've lost a step, need a little more energy
the low T center. There is something you should maybe
try out.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If only you had done that, we would have been
able to keep all right, Mavericks postgame, Mavericks pregame rather
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the Eagle.
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