April 21, 2025 • 9 mins
Join Ben, Skin, and KT as they discuss the weekend’s big box office winner “Sinners”, starring not 1 but 2 Michael B. Jordans. Ben discusses his failure to get to the theatre as much as he should, while Skin gives some historical context to the nature of horror/thriller movies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for making the Ben and Skin Show a part
of your daily routine. We're gonna get back into all
the Maverick stuff coming up here momentarily. We got a
news quickie coming up. We got the Today game. But
right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I just make sure that my lightning was charged.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Uh, okay, that's my fault.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Fuck, we know that it's a movie toll.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, it's what I do to just make my wheelie
get move in a little bit, right, a little shot
collar action to free Willie.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Movie talk.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, so the movie Talk of the Weekend, which is
weird because not every weekend anymore, are you like, wait,
what happened dropped at the theaters? Because once a month,
are we like there's a big movie? Maybe less than
that these days it's gotten kind of weird. But this
is a movie that I've seen the trailer of I'm
not kidding you, I think five times, because I've probably
seen five movies in the last five or six months.
(00:57):
If I've been to a movie recently, then I've seen
this in the previews. The trailer for the movie Sinners,
starring not one.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But two Michael B.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Jordan's Hey off to a good start right, also starring
the wife of Bill's quarterback Josh Allen Hailey Steinfeld.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't I know that name, but I couldn't place her.
What does she do? What's your thing?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
She's in Sinners, okay, and she's done some other things.
And I'm telling you, if you watch that and you're like, okay,
this could be good. But also there's a twist where
they're definitely zombies or vampires or something, but it's a
you know, it's directed by Ryan Coogler, the Kug, the
guy who did Black Panther. He goes by the koog
(01:43):
and okay, And then you go to a movie again
the next month and you see it again and I
don't need to see this trailer again, and then I
own So I've seen the trailer a bunch. Therefore, my
interest in this movie was not high. And I'll be
damned if all over my timeline over the weekend it
was people ran and raving about your box office winner
this weekend, Sinners, which collected forty eight million dollars and
(02:07):
beat the Minecraft movie. So have y'all seen anything about it?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, my timeline was exploding people talking about it. But
I don't really know a ton about it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I've seen some of the buzz leading up to it,
and then I saw that it was out and that
people were loving it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But I don't really even know what it's about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I watch a lot of NBA basketball, and it has
been promoted heavily on national NBA broadcast for months.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, so you know, I'm very aware of it. And
also if you see Michael B. Jordan, you're like, Okay,
there he is.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, this guy's hot, right, And then also I should
say that depending on how deep you want to get
on this, basically, ever since get Out came out, there
has been a lot of So basically throughout time, horror
movies has represented oppressed people like very famously. All throughout
the thirties and forties, gay directors would horror movies in
(03:01):
which the monster represents homosexuality because you couldn't put that
in movies in the thirties and forties. So what's happened
over the last Basically since get Out came out, there's
been a lot of quote unquote thrillers and or horror
films that have been used as a vehicle to represent
the black experience in America. So when I saw these commercials.
I had a very good idea kind of the path
(03:22):
that we were going down here.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I thought I had a pretty good idea of
the path through going down with this movie because in
the trailer, it was one of those trailers where you're like,
what else could they put in the trailer? They've showed
me what happens in this movie. So Michael B. Jordan
and his brother they come back. I'm not there's no
spoilers here. This is all in the previews. They would
show you a movie Michael B. Jordan and his brother
Michael C. Is that right? I don't know. So they're
(03:46):
coming back really town.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, there's two of them. So oh he's playing two
different people. Oah, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They're brothers and twin brothers. So they're coming back to
their hometown and it's in Mississippi ce k vibe and
we're going back to the past. I know in the
trailer there's a rattlesnake and uh they one of the
brothers hooks up with Hailey Steinfeld the van. But it
turns out we learned that she's a zombie of some
sort or a vampire. Okay, so that's that's the story.
(04:14):
They're dealing with vampires.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sell me. That's that's that's kind of how I would
sell it based on the trailer. But you go to
movie experts online such as Chris Arnold, let's go, here's
what he told me about this movie on Twitter A plus.
Don't leave after the credits roll, like, but don't leave
(04:43):
until after because you stay there at some point.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You don't leave after.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
The stay there, see how long until they don't leave
until after the credits.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you're saying that Chris Arnold liked this movie so great.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And everyone did. There's an outlet called Cinema Score. They
gave it the first A plus movie review of a
horror movie in thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, now the last one.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't know Cinema's score from my elbows or my ass,
I don't know, but that seems like a pretty big
thing now watching the previews, I would tell you not
a horror movie. That's that's a thriller. But maybe it is.
Maybe they snuck a horror element into it, and that's
like you.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Just told me, Old Gals a zombie or something. She
turns into one or into vampire.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's hard to tell.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That put you in the horror film category.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
They definitely lock one of the Michael will b. Jordan's
in a room and he has been infected by said virus.
Because his head does a little whack. He kind of
a spook thing at the end. Okay, so interesting, and
I think I'm gonna go see it. Run Tomatoes all
above ninety five percent. Okay, snow Paddington too. But I
(05:51):
don't pretty good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't get out to the theater very often. Dude,
you're the kind of wait for it to get home.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I'll tell you this. The other night I spent time
watching teen Wolf.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This is I sitting there. I watched it from the top.
You saw when the guy hung dong it the whole movie.
I looked forward and I never saw it. I was
looking for do yes version of it, looking for dong
and all the wrong please looking for nong uh.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it's a really bad movie.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I invested time in that because it was at
my house, on my couch, but actually getting up and
leaving and going somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I need to do that more often. I would go
see teen Wolf in the theater. I mean I would.
Would you rather see teen Wolf.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'll put it to you like this, I'd rather get
out and go see teen Wolf in the theaters than
Miss Congeniality, which is coming back. Man, I told you guys,
iw yes for that, but both terrible things to go do.
Watching Michael J. Fox play basketball, he was literally four
foot eleven Michael J. Fox or Michael B. Jordan adding
(06:59):
another Michael there.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I think it's an easy answer.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Ninety eight percent from the critics, ninety seven percent from
the fans.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Is it rated R?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It is rated R? Are you gonna watch it? And
then go read a bunch of think pieces?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Probably not watch it though, yeah, yeah, the fil all right,
I do want to watch it now. I'm in Oh yeah, no, absolutely,
like we're probably gonna go this week.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Because I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'm sure the guys made other movies between this and
Black Panther, but I thought Black Panther was freaking awesome. Yeah,
it was one of the best movies I've seen in
the last decade or so.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You would like to know what else the coug has done,
because Tomatoes did rank Ryan Cougler's movies, Okay, number two,
Black Panther, number three, Creed, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Jordan he only makes Michael B. Jordan movies.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I did not have an I didn't get it. I
did not have an interest in seeing Creed. I'm it
may be great. I just like a lot of people
loved it, but I just don't know there was a
sequel to it until they released the Sylvester Sloan porn.
I feel like we can't really take anything they do.
The one that Shackleford watched and transribed amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, number four Fruitvale Station with oh yeah, Michael B.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Jordan h fruit Veil Station.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But that was before Black Panther, right, I believe so,
I think thirteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a long
time ago, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That thing is what put him on the map, and then
he took over Black Panther. Yeah, and there we go.
Michael Jordan's one of the greatest actors. We have one
of the hottest guys we have on our good business
to get into right there with.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Wallace still sad. If you watch The Wire, you guys
know Michael B.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Jordan was shot and killed spoiler dude in like about
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When The Wire was on.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
A lot of people were thinking of turning that on.
Tonight was Nicki Minaj is really hooking up with him.
You saw that Award show.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
She was like, I'm wearing this dress made by so
and so and Michael B. Jordan's gonna take it off
of me tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I've not heard that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You guys like Nicki Minaja know the story. You guys
followed this Nicki minajes news. I am not intimately involved
in her work. I'm aware that she exists and puts
out product.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
In case she does put it out yep, anything else, Kevin,
that's good for now.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right, alright, coming up next, Coming up next in
less than four minutes, don't go anywhere. The Today Game,
then a news quickie, and then we'll get in the
weekday update and back into all the math stuff. It's
all coming your way in the Benin Skin Show
Thanks for making the Ben and Skin Show a part
of your daily routine. We're gonna get back into all
the Maverick stuff coming up here momentarily. We got a
news quickie coming up. We got the Today game. But
right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I just make sure that my lightning was charged.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Uh, okay, that's my fault.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Fuck, we know that it's a movie toll.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, it's what I do to just make my wheelie
get move in a little bit, right, a little shot
collar action to free Willie.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Movie talk.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, so the movie Talk of the Weekend, which is
weird because not every weekend anymore, are you like, wait,
what happened dropped at the theaters? Because once a month,
are we like there's a big movie? Maybe less than
that these days it's gotten kind of weird. But this
is a movie that I've seen the trailer of I'm
not kidding you, I think five times, because I've probably
seen five movies in the last five or six months.
(00:57):
If I've been to a movie recently, then I've seen
this in the previews. The trailer for the movie Sinners,
starring not one.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But two Michael B.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Jordan's Hey off to a good start right, also starring
the wife of Bill's quarterback Josh Allen Hailey Steinfeld.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't I know that name, but I couldn't place her.
What does she do? What's your thing?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
She's in Sinners, okay, and she's done some other things.
And I'm telling you, if you watch that and you're like, okay,
this could be good. But also there's a twist where
they're definitely zombies or vampires or something, but it's a
you know, it's directed by Ryan Coogler, the Kug, the
guy who did Black Panther. He goes by the koog
(01:43):
and okay, And then you go to a movie again
the next month and you see it again and I
don't need to see this trailer again, and then I
own So I've seen the trailer a bunch. Therefore, my
interest in this movie was not high. And I'll be
damned if all over my timeline over the weekend it
was people ran and raving about your box office winner
this weekend, Sinners, which collected forty eight million dollars and
(02:07):
beat the Minecraft movie. So have y'all seen anything about it?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, my timeline was exploding people talking about it. But
I don't really know a ton about it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I've seen some of the buzz leading up to it,
and then I saw that it was out and that
people were loving it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But I don't really even know what it's about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I watch a lot of NBA basketball, and it has
been promoted heavily on national NBA broadcast for months.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, so you know, I'm very aware of it. And
also if you see Michael B. Jordan, you're like, Okay,
there he is.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, this guy's hot, right, And then also I should
say that depending on how deep you want to get
on this, basically, ever since get Out came out, there
has been a lot of So basically throughout time, horror
movies has represented oppressed people like very famously. All throughout
the thirties and forties, gay directors would horror movies in
(03:01):
which the monster represents homosexuality because you couldn't put that
in movies in the thirties and forties. So what's happened
over the last Basically since get Out came out, there's
been a lot of quote unquote thrillers and or horror
films that have been used as a vehicle to represent
the black experience in America. So when I saw these commercials.
I had a very good idea kind of the path
(03:22):
that we were going down here.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I thought I had a pretty good idea of
the path through going down with this movie because in
the trailer, it was one of those trailers where you're like,
what else could they put in the trailer? They've showed
me what happens in this movie. So Michael B. Jordan
and his brother they come back. I'm not there's no
spoilers here. This is all in the previews. They would
show you a movie Michael B. Jordan and his brother
Michael C. Is that right? I don't know. So they're
(03:46):
coming back really town.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, there's two of them. So oh he's playing two
different people. Oah, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They're brothers and twin brothers. So they're coming back to
their hometown and it's in Mississippi ce k vibe and
we're going back to the past. I know in the
trailer there's a rattlesnake and uh they one of the
brothers hooks up with Hailey Steinfeld the van. But it
turns out we learned that she's a zombie of some
sort or a vampire. Okay, so that's that's the story.
(04:14):
They're dealing with vampires.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sell me. That's that's that's kind of how I would
sell it based on the trailer. But you go to
movie experts online such as Chris Arnold, let's go, here's
what he told me about this movie on Twitter A plus.
Don't leave after the credits roll, like, but don't leave
(04:43):
until after because you stay there at some point.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You don't leave after.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
The stay there, see how long until they don't leave
until after the credits.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you're saying that Chris Arnold liked this movie so great.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And everyone did. There's an outlet called Cinema Score. They
gave it the first A plus movie review of a
horror movie in thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, now the last one.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't know Cinema's score from my elbows or my ass,
I don't know, but that seems like a pretty big
thing now watching the previews, I would tell you not
a horror movie. That's that's a thriller. But maybe it is.
Maybe they snuck a horror element into it, and that's
like you.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Just told me, Old Gals a zombie or something. She
turns into one or into vampire.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's hard to tell.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That put you in the horror film category.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
They definitely lock one of the Michael will b. Jordan's
in a room and he has been infected by said virus.
Because his head does a little whack. He kind of
a spook thing at the end. Okay, so interesting, and
I think I'm gonna go see it. Run Tomatoes all
above ninety five percent. Okay, snow Paddington too. But I
(05:51):
don't pretty good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't get out to the theater very often. Dude,
you're the kind of wait for it to get home.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I'll tell you this. The other night I spent time
watching teen Wolf.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This is I sitting there. I watched it from the top.
You saw when the guy hung dong it the whole movie.
I looked forward and I never saw it. I was
looking for do yes version of it, looking for dong
and all the wrong please looking for nong uh.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it's a really bad movie.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I invested time in that because it was at
my house, on my couch, but actually getting up and
leaving and going somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I need to do that more often. I would go
see teen Wolf in the theater. I mean I would.
Would you rather see teen Wolf.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'll put it to you like this, I'd rather get
out and go see teen Wolf in the theaters than
Miss Congeniality, which is coming back. Man, I told you guys,
iw yes for that, but both terrible things to go do.
Watching Michael J. Fox play basketball, he was literally four
foot eleven Michael J. Fox or Michael B. Jordan adding
(06:59):
another Michael there.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I think it's an easy answer.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Ninety eight percent from the critics, ninety seven percent from
the fans.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Is it rated R?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It is rated R? Are you gonna watch it? And
then go read a bunch of think pieces?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Probably not watch it though, yeah, yeah, the fil all right,
I do want to watch it now. I'm in Oh yeah, no, absolutely,
like we're probably gonna go this week.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Because I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'm sure the guys made other movies between this and
Black Panther, but I thought Black Panther was freaking awesome. Yeah,
it was one of the best movies I've seen in
the last decade or so.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You would like to know what else the coug has done,
because Tomatoes did rank Ryan Cougler's movies, Okay, number two,
Black Panther, number three, Creed, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Jordan he only makes Michael B. Jordan movies.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I did not have an I didn't get it. I
did not have an interest in seeing Creed. I'm it
may be great. I just like a lot of people
loved it, but I just don't know there was a
sequel to it until they released the Sylvester Sloan porn.
I feel like we can't really take anything they do.
The one that Shackleford watched and transribed amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, number four Fruitvale Station with oh yeah, Michael B.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Jordan h fruit Veil Station.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But that was before Black Panther, right, I believe so,
I think thirteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a long
time ago, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That thing is what put him on the map, and then
he took over Black Panther. Yeah, and there we go.
Michael Jordan's one of the greatest actors. We have one
of the hottest guys we have on our good business
to get into right there with.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Wallace still sad. If you watch The Wire, you guys
know Michael B.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Jordan was shot and killed spoiler dude in like about
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When The Wire was on.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
A lot of people were thinking of turning that on.
Tonight was Nicki Minaj is really hooking up with him.
You saw that Award show.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
She was like, I'm wearing this dress made by so
and so and Michael B. Jordan's gonna take it off
of me tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I've not heard that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You guys like Nicki Minaja know the story. You guys
followed this Nicki minajes news. I am not intimately involved
in her work. I'm aware that she exists and puts
out product.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
In case she does put it out yep, anything else, Kevin,
that's good for now.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right, alright, coming up next, Coming up next in
less than four minutes, don't go anywhere. The Today Game,
then a news quickie, and then we'll get in the
weekday update and back into all the math stuff. It's
all coming your way in the Benin Skin Show
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