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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's good friend. Chuck Barrett, play by play voice at
the Arkansas Razorbacks, joins us, So, how old would you
have been back then? You you you had to be
a little guy, a little tyke back then.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right. What was the year? What was the year? I
remember the song?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I was a freshman in high school.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh okay, all right, so you were a couple of
years behind me. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, I was, you know, I when the song was playing,
I couldn't remember was the ten CC or the Atlanta
rhythm section? You said, because wrong?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well they you know, they they had their hits in
nineteen seventy seven to one. That kind of sounds like
that is I'm not going to let it bother me tonight.
That's nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's right, That's exactly what it was. And you know,
those of us who cut our teeth on music radio,
we we know all the songs from that era. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, it kind of timestamps this, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It really does. Right.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
It's great visit with you, and I'm curious to get
your thoughts on what has been described to me by
some as a curious or a curiosity this Arkansas razorback team,
and maybe teams that are five and four maybe have
more tendency to be described in such terms. But I
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look at a team that averages nearly five hundred yards
per game into the offense, that has some defensive playmakers
as well, that has an absolute, flat out big time
signature win over Tennessee and number four at the time,
So I guess maybe a curiosity is the best.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Way to describe.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
How would you describe this particular group of Sam Pippins.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, I hate to go to a cliche, but I mean,
it really has been a roller coaster ride this year.
There have been some really high highs and some really
low loads and it's just kind of been that way.
And you know, the win over Tennessee that you talked
about was, I mean, it was huge. It was, you know,
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arguably the signature win of the Sam Pitman era. But
it was followed up by a buck dud against LSU,
and they didn't play well against Gold Miss and so
it's been up and down. They've been susceptible to the
big play some on deep edge, particularly in the passing game,
and that's been a real point of emphasis during the
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open week for obvious reasons. You know what's what's coming
up on on Saturday. Offensively, they've turned the ball over
and they've not been particularly good in the red zone.
They've moved the ball up and down the field, They've
missed some field goals. They've just done some things that
keep you from winning games, even though you look at
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the statuet what it's over and say it shouldn't have
been like this. So yeah, curiosity is a good word.
I mean, it's sometimes you don't know what you're gonna get.
But when they've been good, they've been you know, they've
been as competitive as an anybody else in the league.
And when they've been bad, they've gotten blown out.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, there's two guys who want to ask about on
the offensive side. The first one is Jaquindin Jackson. Now,
I did I think two of the state championship games
he played in when he was at Duncanville, and then
of course he came down here first initially and then
you know, and had to recover from knee injury and
then ended up one of Utah and then transferring in.
But here he is rushing for nearly six hundred yards
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this year and averaging nearly six yards per carry. How
would you describe what you've seen from Jaquindin Jackson this season.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
When he's been healthy, he's been really really good. H
he's not been healthy of blade. I do think he's
going to play Saturday, it sounds like, and so you know,
it's amazing how these guys heel up when you know
they've got a game against their home state. So I
think he'll be ready to go. He really was a
big part of what Arkansas was able to do well
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offensively when he was healthy. First off, he's a big kid.
I mean he's you know, six two and two thirty
and runs like a truck. And as you guys know,
I mean, he was a quarterback, so he sees things
perhaps that others don't see, or he sees things to
quarterback size and they're going to have to run the ball.
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Arkansas is going to have to run the ball Saturday
to have a chance. And they know that. And when
they've done that, he's been the guy. And when he's
not been in there, they struggle to run the ball.
Their quarterback a lot of times has been the best
rusher when ja Quindon's not played. But He's a really
good player, and I hope down the stretch that you
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know he can he can play without any further injury.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Another guy I want to
ask you about is also from the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex,
and that's Andrew Armstrong. Here's a guy from Bishop Dunn,
from a small private program, started off at the D
two level at Texas A and M commerce. They're up
to FCS now and he he's posted just some lights
out numbers this season. Ranks first in the SEC and
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six nationally and receiving yards per game over one hundred
yards one hundred and seven per game first in the SEC,
and receptions per game second in receiving yards. He's a
guy that's it's been kind of a big play guy
for you in the passing game any he.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Really has been. And you know, college sports is supposed
to be about helping kids grow up. And I don't
know what happened with Andrew before, but I know since
he's been here, this guy is a guy that every
time you see him, he's happy. I mean, he's happy
to be here. I'm sure playing at the D two
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level probably makes you appreciate playing at the high D
one level. But he has been just a breadth of
fresh air. And you know, he's a good teammate, you know,
like I say, I don't know what happened before, but
since he's been here, he's been a good player. He's
been a good leader, and he's been you know, sometimes
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a big play guy's not also the safety valve guy.
But I mean when things get messy back there, he's
the one that Taylor Green looks for. And so he's
been really good and he's been a good player and
a big play guy, and I wish he's been here
for a longer time, honestly.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, Taylor Green was where I was going next. And
here's another guy. This is the third consecutive offensive player
I mentioned that started at a different college, a different
football program. But you know, we all know what a
different world this is now with a portal and everything
like that. And Taylor Green, I've heard him described a
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variety of ways, but the most common description I hear
of him is he's big and tough. And you don't
often hear that those particular two words ascribed to a quarterback,
big and tough. You might hear big, but big and
tough and uh, I you know, just looking at him
on video, he looks all of sixty six and two
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thirty if not more than that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, he's uh, he's run over a person or two.
He's not quite what kJ Jefferson was, for example, early
in his career. Yeah, but he can truck you. And
he enjoys running the ball. And honestly that's good because
there have been times when he's been running for his
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life this year. And when he has given time, he's
like any quarterback, you're giving time to throw, giving time
to go through his progressions. He's been really good like
any other quarterback. I mean, you know, pressure leads to interceptions,
and pressure leads to sometimes bad reads quick reads, and
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he's been susceptible to that. And you go through his
career back to Boysey State, it's it's it's very similar.
You know. Bobby Petrino is very good with quarterbacks, and
Green has gotten a lot better this year. You know.
My hope, just very frankly when the season began, was
they could win enough games where everything would stay in
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place for another year, when Patrino and Green would have
a second season together. Because I've seen coach Patrino work
with quarterbacks. I've seen what he can do, and he's
excellent at it. But nobody's great inside of four or
five six month period. You gotta more time than that.
So Taylan has looked really good. When he's again been
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protected and when he's running for his life, sometimes some
bad things happen.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Visit Chuck Barrett, played by play voice of the Arkansas
Razorbacks here on sports Radio in thirteen hundred and so, Chuck,
you brought up kJ Jefferson Longhorn fans didn't think about
think back to that game three years ago when Tech,
the last time these two teams met on the football
field of Texas went in there and got absolutely molly wotted,
or as Sark said on the SEC conference call, because
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he was asked about getting the short end of the stick,
and his actual quote and I quote was I don't
know about short end of the stick. We got our
ass whipped. That's the way he described it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The other thing that that I think is is pretty
interesting is, uh, there's been a lot of talk even
as I've been on you know, a couple of podcasts
and broadcasts, including the one with your broadcast partner Queen Grovy,
this week, and uh, there's been a lot of talk
about the rivalry and what and what rivalry there is,
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and now it's starting to regenerate. And obviously it's going
to get white hot in a couple of weeks when
Texas goes to College Station. But but is the vibe
that you're getting up there that folks really eager about this,
about the resumption of a rivalry with Texas.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So much of that is generateational For my generation, the
third Saturday in October man Arkansas and Texas. You know,
we were raised on that and that's when the game
was played and it was just part of every fall.
So for us, yes, it is, Uh, it's fun, it's nostalgic,
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which we all love. There's a generation for whom Arkansas
and Texas doesn't mean that much because they have not
been raised on it. I mean, Arkansas has been in
the SEC for over thirty years now, and so unless
you're of a certain age, you don't remember a lot
of those games. And frankly, if you're going to go
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back to Darrol Royal and Frank Broyles, there aren't you know,
there aren't many of their contemporaries left, so you know, rivalries.
Things have to happen, things have to be on the line,
there have to be big games. Uh, there's there's there's
you know, there's got to be a bad call somewhere
down to the lawe. Those are the things that build rivalries.
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I hope that things happen in games that build that
rivalry or rebuild that rivalry. But I do think for
a certain generation of our Kansons, it's a really really
big game. You know. You got to remember too, We've
got a lot of students from the Dallas Fort Worth area.
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Texas is different than Arkansas and that so many schools
play one another. You grow up fans of different teams.
Texas has a lot of rival some of them are
in state, and so some of their children come up
here and you know they they may not have been
Texas fans before, so you know they buy into it.
But for a generation of our Kansas though, it's it's
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it's stories their dads tell.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I hear you. Now, I'd be remiss if I
didn't ask you for an early early review on what
you're seeing with the Razorback basketball program with with John
Calipari and what he's done there and what Col's influence
there in the in the community, and and the excitement
that's generated around Razorback basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know, Craig has been interesting. I think our fans
are just now coming to the realization that John Calipari
is the Razorbacks basketball. You know, people have just been
kind of in shock. And I know he was introduced
and I know that you know, he's the Razorbacks coach,
but I think until people saw him out there, but
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there is an excitement level. And now, look, it's still
football season for a lot of people, but the Arkansas
has got a level of talent that not even Nolan
Richardson had in here, and just through you know there
he got a signature today from you know, the number
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one shooting guard in the country, and so there is
a level of excitement that has not been there previously. Now, look,
our fans were excited under Moss. I mean, we did
well under Moss, and but yeah, cow, it's a whole
different deal. It's you know, you realize that there are
a handful of folks out there that just do things
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differently than everybody else, and he falls into that group
for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Absolutely, Hey, Chuck, I really appreciate you taking the time
to just look forward to getting back up there and
the experiencing the excitement of this this game. Look forward
to seeing you as always and it's always a pleasure
to visit with you. Thanks so much for taking the time.
I'm honored to be on with you. You're one of the best.
Thank you, Thanks Chuck, I'll see you on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, say travels.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Thank you. That is Chuck Bher play by play voice
of the Arkansas Razorbacks. One of the great guys to
visit with as well. And yeah, there's excitement building for
for the Hogs on the on the hardwood as well
as what Arkansas can do in football as well. And
they're they're five and four. If they win their Bowl
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elves well they definitely even if you even if you
separated and nobody will, but even if you separated the
rivalry part of it, if you just pulled that out
of it, you would you would still have stuff at
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stake for Arkansas chance to to become Bowl eligible and
to get to four and three in the SEC. Sam
Pittman has done a good enough job in keeping their
head above water and SEC play. And that's not an
easy thing to say, and to do. So there's that,
then there's the rivalry thing. And this is the week
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where I have seen and heard so much about the
history of this rivalry. This, by the way, is going
to be on December sixth, the day before the SEC Championship,
no less, the fifty fifth anniversary of the big shootout
game in nineteen sixty nine in Fayetteville when it was
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then just Razorback Stadium and ceed I think forty two
thousand on the cold, gray, gloomy, drippy day when he
had number one Texas and number two Arkansas playing and
President Nixon in the stands and a young staff member
named George H. W. Bush. He was there with him
as well. And I mentioned this the other day, Bill
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and Hillary Clinton as student protesters, part of the student
protests that were going on beyond the south end zone
and all that sort of stuff. And the incredible fifteen
fourteen Longhorn victory Arkansas jumps of the fourteen nothing lead
Longhorns surviving, I think it was five turnovers in the
game and the big fifty three verveer pass to Cotton
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Inspire from James Street that set up what proved to
be the game winning touchdown. The genius of Darrel Royle
to go for two after the first touchdown, not the second.
So all that all that was on the line was
for Happy Feller from Fredericksburg, Texas to knock to kick
the ball through for the fifteen to fourteen victory, and
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it wrapped up a national championship. Was that they met
the next year. It was another made for TV matchup
and it didn't live up to the billing. Next year
in Austin, Texas blew blew out the Razorbacks forty two
to seven to make it back to back national titles.
That was the Coaches National Championship and then with that
rash of injuries and Joe Thizmen playing really really well
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for Notre Dame, Notre Dame beat Texas and the Cotton
Bowl and enabled Nebraska to claim the national title that
year in Texas had the Coaches National Championship split national titles.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
That game was originally scheduled for October. The nineteen seventy
matchup in ABC was like, let's move it to December.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It started. Isn't that crazy? That happened in sixty nine?
How first beIN o'cook, who became an ESPN analyst and prognosticator.
Later he was a young TV executive with ABC. He
talked run Arledge in the ABC brass in to asking
the two schools to move that game to December sixth,
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and they did in sixty nine, and it was such
a gold mine of a game fifteen fourteen and all
that stuff that they said, let's run it back. Do
it again the next year. They did in seventy. It
just didn't live up the Billain because the long Worns
dominated him that one. But there were other big games
at Arkansas. Nineteen sixty four. This is the sixtieth anniversary
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of this season. Nineteen sixty four, the Loggers were the
defending national champions. They won it their first national title
in sixty three and in the sixty four season, number
ones in the country and they play Arkansas. They missed
an extra point and the difference in the game. Ken
Hatfield returned upont eighty one yards for a touchdown. The
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same Ken Hatfield who would lay coached the Razorbacks and
was also a coach at Rice. And he tells the
story about how Daryl Royal came into the Arkansas locker
room after the game and said, you guys beat a
really good football team today. So make sure you stick
to your knitting, was the way he said, because if
you drop a piece or two, our guys will be
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there to pick it up. And he was exactly right.
Texas did not lose another game the rest of the year.
Neither did Arkansas. The AP and the UPI crowned Alabama
quarterback by Joe Namath as the national champion. Alabama played
Texas and the Orange Ball the first Bowl game at night.
Texas big goal line stand Tommy Nobus stopping Joe Namath
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at the goal line, and Logorns won that game twenty
three to seventeen. I believe it was or twenty three twenty. Anyway,
Texas won that football game, and Arkansas went on and
won and beat Nebraska and the cop Bowl and won
what was then the third major thing. The Football Writers
Association of America voted them the national champions. That's Arkansas's
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only national championship.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
But that happened.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That was sixty years ago, so there's a lot that
they played that Y two K Cotton Bowl where Major
apple White had the knee injury in Arkansas dominating Houston.
Nutt the coach doing Horns down. He's going off the
field had that, so they've they've they've had a lot
of history over the years, so it'll be interesting and
fun to see it renewed this Saturday morning at eleven o'clock.
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Our coverage begins at eight o'clock with you guys out
at the Carthouse right on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, eight am to ten am is our show at
the Texas Carthouse Social off of one to eighty three
and Anderson Mill near the Austin Aquarium. I'll tell you what, Craig,
we had a walk through yesterday morning. That place blew
me away. Awesome location, the biggest TV screen outside of
DKR and Austin, so you come in huge, it's a
huge screen. We'll be there when our show alive and
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have some special guests. Norman Watkins, Longhorn legend defensive lineman,
will stop by sit with of course you and Roger
Wallace live from the booth at Donald Reynolds Stadium. It'll
be me and Keith Morland key more than that's right
because Roger Wallace will be working the Texas men's basketball
game on Saturday, so we'll visit with you and Keith
with the doctor Keith, but come out the kitchen opens
at eight am, closes at four am. They're open the
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Speaker 2 (20:20):
Come out.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
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Speaker 1 (20:31):
All right, Coming up next, We've got a couple of
other things to get to as we continue here. By
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