December 10, 2024 • 23 mins
Greg Tepper joins the show to discuss the Texas High School Football State Semifinals including Westlake/North Shore, Southlake Carroll/Longview, Denton Ryan/Highland Park, Angleton/Smithson Valley, and more. Plus, Tepper's thoughts on the CFP and who has the best path to the National Championship.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With regard to football that we always enjoy visiting with
the managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine. And
not only that, my co host on High School Scoreboard
Live alongside Aaron Hartigan as well, and I'm happy to
say I'll actually be able to join them again on
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the program, So look forward to doing that. We'll be there,
Greg Teppers, how you doing, Tip.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And a quick note on Willie Nelson, which is a
great way to start a.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sentence in the state of Texas.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yes, there is, there is a very I'll tweet this out.
I haven't tweeted it out in a couple of years.
I think my favorite video on the internet is this
really like bizarre video it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Is, It's on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is I believe in Daryl Royle's birthday. And they
are sitting It's a group of people sitting in an
apartment with Willie Nelson sitting like cross legged on the
floor playing one of his songs songs, And you panned
the camera pans up to the couch there and sitting
next to one another are Lee Corso and Dave Campbell
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and Rema Campbell sitting on a couch listening to.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Willie Nelson at DK our birthday party.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It is truly just a snapshot in time from like
nineteen seventy two or something. I watch it like every
three three months when I remember about it. It is
one of the wildest videos you'll ever see.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, I would imagine, especially with some of the other
company mention. Now, you do fully understand that down in
these parts, seeing photographs of Coach Royal and Willie was
a really rather commonplace thing. They played golf together a lot.
They had the Ben, Willie and Daryl Golf Tournament for
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decades with Ben Crenshaw and Willie Nelson and Daryl Royal,
and that it was adopted later after Coach Royal passed
by Mack Brown with the Mac Jack McConaughey, which is
with Mac Brown, Jack Ingram and Matthew McConaughey. Even after
even after Mac went to North Carolina, they still have
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the Mac Jack and McConaughey.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So, uh so that works out. But you're but you're
right seeing some.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Of those pictures, and I'll tell you the thing that
really just flipped me out, And it happened only because
it happened by happenstance when they first made when we
were all still into in the uh in the age
of it doesn't seem like it's been that long ago.
Tip that we will watch DVD's on television, right, Uh,
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there was a there was a d They started offering
the DVD sets of Saturday Night Live, and I bought
I think the first four seasons were available. So in
the first season, there is an episode that is hosted
by Mary kay Place who was an actor and producer
and director who was in television a lot in the
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seventies and eighties.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The the muschool guest was Willy Nelson, and Willie sings
his acts and stuff like that. And so they do it,
and they have this episode and when it's over, you know,
when they come out on stage and they wave and
they say thank you thanks to Willie Nelson. Think, oh
blah blah blah. And then people are standing there on
the stage hugging each other. During the credits, well among
the people out there, just sounder elseon.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I did a double take. There's Darrel Royal standing on
the stage. It's Saturday I Live. If you go back,
if you find it, you find it the.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Episode and I think what all the Saturday Night Live
episodes are now available.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I think it used to be on Hulu. I don't
know if it's is it Camas Were Peacock two, Nat
the Cock, Yeah, Rock Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
If you look up the episode and it's in the
first maybe the second season, but I'm almost an undercent.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Sure it's the first year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Look for Mary k Place to host, and you'll see
and Willie Nelson's a musical guest. And you go to
the credits, you'll see Coach Royal with those glasses he
was wearing at the end of his coaching career.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Standing there. I my jaw hit the floor. I thought,
one of these.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Things is not like the other Coach Royal and Saturday
Night Live and NET Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Coach Royle had a sense of humor, but that's probably
a little rich for his for his comedy chops, I'll
be honest.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And I'm sure Willie though Clawn was going up there
and probably calling out.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
On the stage at the end of everyone was waving.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I couldn't believe it so spectacular all right, So, speaking
of of of astronomically uncommon things in Texas, I can't
remember it were you, at least from Afar or as
a kid growing up in the Dallas Forward metroplex. And
still are you a frustrated Cowboys fan?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not. Somehow I ducked it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Long story short, my family moved around a little bit.
I moved back when I was when I was in
middle school, and at that point that was the Quincy.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Carter era of the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
That's really when I started gaining football consciousness, and I
just thought, I don't need I don't need this pain.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Like I've got the I've got the Texas Rangers. That's enough.
So no, I'm not. I'm not a long.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Suffering Cowboys fan. But they're all a lot of them
in my life that I know are in some pain today.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, Cameron Parker is kind of this divorced himself from it,
but he can't completely let go. But we're telling him,
you know, it's kind of either something or another thing,
something about getting off the pot or whatever. But anyway,
just because we've seen you and I have seen even
this year, and we see it every year, some bizarre
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things happen on a football field. With the amount of
take that we watch and the amount of live telecast.
We watch of college and high school football games, so
maybe we shouldn't be that shocked or surprise, especially since
the Cowboys were involved about what happened with that block
punt moving forward, don't touch it a warrior that it happens.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Can I tell you something?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And I think you'll agree with this.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
There is and certainly I understand that the NFL is
it is like people are coming in and coming out
and stuff like that, and there's roster turnover, especially on
the special teams where players get injured and get healthy
and stuff. But I would say that that is a
mistake that ninety eight percent of high school football teams
in Texas don't make that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They're just that they they understand that they are all drilled.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I think part of it is that like everyone
goes through special teams drills, you know, on on on
usually on Thursday Thursday, if you plan on Friday Thursday,
we're doing a lofer room, we're doing special teams and
we're practicing. Hey, you know, we're attracting Yell and Peter,
we're getting away from the ball and so yeah, that
was one thing that crossed my mind last night, was
like that was I would say that that is a
that is an amateur play from from the Cowboys special teams.
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But even amateurs I think could avoid something like that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Okay, And notice how everybody was recalling nineteen ninety three
and Leon Rolette. This is the most celebrating example of
that very same type of mistake. Unfortunately it loves a cowboy,
same deal.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You're wearing the same helmet, man, Like, you need to
sew a little bit about you.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Guys have a history of this kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, let's let's start with from college football and get
your thoughts first of all on the bowl selections for
the teams in the state. And and by the way,
I guess we should do a tip of the cap
to incarnate word at the FCS level, which is advanced
to the next round. And even though it didn't work
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out for Charleton and Abilene Christian in their first year
of eligibility for FCS playoffs, I think they showed themselves
well to be able to advance to it there.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
And now you got incarnate word taken the next step.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, and I will say that overall, it's just a
really healthy year for football in the state of Texas.
Mary Hard and bayl are still live in the divisions
three ranks. You mentioned, you know, you mentioned incarnate words
is still cooking.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And then yet ten of.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The thirteen FBS teams in the state of Texas qualified
for bowls, and that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That is not nothing, and that is there.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
There have been years in the past where that would
have been a cause for celebration. But overall, you know,
between Texas getting two teams in the in the in
the college Football playoffs and another eight teams going bowling,
I think that that the state of the union as
far as Texas football is concerned, is very strong, not
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just at the FBS level and not just at even
the power floor level, but all the way down to
the to the SCS, the Division two, the Division three levels.
There's just a real healthiness to the football landscape right
now that we haven't seen in a while. There were
some lean years back in the later part of the
last decade where ten teams making.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
The playoff, making that could.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Be uh making you know, the bowl a bowl would
have seemed impossible. But things have certainly rebounded.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
In a big way here in the Lone Star state.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Were you as many were.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Feeling uneasy about AMU's chances to get into the playoff
field after Saturday nights.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, yeah, because you're leaving it up to a committee.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And I've said this before. I have a very cynical
view here. I recognize that, but but I always view these.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
People as television executives and not football people. That's what
they're doing. They're making television decisions.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And the right television move is probably to put in
Alabama over SMU. But I think that you know, our
Mike Craven was there in Charlotte for this game and
when when SMU drove to tie the game, uh and
came with the game tying score. Obviously it didn't last,
but he he even put in our in our kind
of our team slack.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Just saying I think they clinched the playoff spot with that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Drive, that getting there and being that competitive, I think
is going to take away any sort of doubt. And
sure enough, Look, I think it's worth saying, like commend
the committee. I think they did the right thing, and
they put the right teams in there, the teams, the
most deserving teams in there, and they didn't let the
brand name get in the way.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And and I think that Semu is deserving of making the playoffs.
So I think that that was that was a pleasant surprise.
But I think especially considering last year with the the
nonsense they pulled with Florida State, I think that that uh,
there were there were SMU fans and people who observe
S and U who were understandably very leery of the
of the of the playoff bracket reveal, simply because they
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wanted to make sure that the committee would do of
them they didn't last year, which is to take a
look at the teams and and and make the right
decision as far as the teams that are most deserving
of the playoff, which I think is certainly SMU instead
of a team that got drilled by Oklahoma or in
a team that lost to.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Vanderbilt, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Greg Tepper, managing edit Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, joining
us here on the program, how do you feel about
each of the two representatives from the state of Texas
chances in this CEP.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, we'll start with SMU, and look, there's no two
ways about it, and I do mean exactly what I'm
going to say. It's going to be tough sledding for
SMU quite literally. I think moving up going up to
State College, of course they are a and taking on
the Penn.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
State and Happy Valley.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That's going to be I think that's actually it's kind
of a poor matchup. I think for SMU, I don't
think they match up very well with Penn State. The
things that Penn State does well kind of neutralize the
things that SMU does well. And I'm a little concerned
about that. And they are fond of doing a white out,
and it may in fact to be in multiple.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Ways a wide out.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
One of the things that I think people don't necessarily
realize and may be taken into account is that, like
there's a reason that all of the Bowl games are
in southern cities or they're in domes. Like there's a reason,
and it's because it's December and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It'll be the.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
First December game in Pennsylvania, you know, outdoors in quite
some time, you know, maybe outside of you know, whenever
they played Army Navy. But certainly that's if that's any
guide to what we're going to be seeing. We may
be seeing some income near weather. So for s and U,
it's gonna be tough sledding.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I think it's at a tough draw.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I thought Texas is the big winner of the playoffs draw.
I think they got an absolutely dreamy draw when you
take a look at their first couple of matchups, taking
on a Clemson team, I think they match up really
well against I'm just not sure how Clemson moves the
ball all that much on Texas, especially in Austin, I
think that's huge. And then to be paired up with
Arizona State, a team that obviously Big Ten champions and
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certainly deserving, but a team that I think everyone thinks
is a bit of an overachiever in this spot. I
think for Texas you're feeling like, hey, you know, and
for them to have to go to the Peace Bowl, right,
it's not like they're playing in their backyard in Arizona.
They're gonna have to travel across the country. I think
for Texas you do not have to squint very hard
to see them in the final four here. I thought
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for overall, for the way that the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Season ended in a bit of a bit of a disappointment, I.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Think that they have to be really buoyed and really
encouraged by grabbing that five seeds.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, and if they do win the two games, then
you're talking about them in all probability ticketed for the
Cotton Bowl, which, by the way, they've not played in
the Cotton Bowl game since my first year of play
by played for Texas the two thousand and two. It's
been twenty two years since Texas played in a Cotton
Bowl game. All right, now, in terms of the other bowls,
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I'm fully prepared to call Jeff Trailer and give him
seat restaurant recommendations. In Myrtle Beach they play Coastal Carolina.
It is kind of weird having to play a team
on their own home field there. But utsay close strong
enough to be able to I think handle coach to
win that Myrtle Beach Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, oh, I think so too. And the other well,
here's the other thing, and here's here's the if you need.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
To know one thing for you, I'm a big believer
that bulls are a measurement of how motivated your team is.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Here's the only thing you need to know right now.
UTSA is six and six.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Jeff Trailer has literally, at any level, never finished with
a losing record, never, never, ever, ever, not at Gilmer,
not at UTSA, he's never done as.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
A head coach. I think they're going to be motivated
going into that kick.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah. How about Texas Tech Arkansas and the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, hey, listen, we're getting Southless Conference back together. And
for Joey maguire, who grew up an Arkansas fan, this
is a lot of fun for him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
A lot of Texas high.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
School football products also on that Arkansas Arkansas squad.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That'll be a fun matchup.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And and I think the text got to feel really good.
I will again, if it's a measurement of how how
motivated you are to go in going to the game.
I think Joey mcgar is gonna have these boys ready.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
They are They've been very good in bowl games under
joe mguire, and I think that they they've got to
feel pretty good going into this game as well.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
All Right, and we'll talk about some of the other
bowl games next week when visit. But but uh, let's
talk about the high school playoffs now. And you know,
I don't know if I felt the tremors, after all,
I was in Atlanta, but I know the earth must
have moved when Alito lost in the state quarterfinals last week.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
That and as well as De Soto. With both of
those teams getting.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Those are the pair of tremors that were felt across
the Texas high school football landscape. You know, Alito is
one of those teams that anytime they lose in his news,
right when they lose, when Carthage loses, right when Katie loses,
when Duncanville loses.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There's just a handful of teams are like that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And certainly to go out there and to lose to
Dent and Ryan, a team they've already beaten, it's a
remarkable story there for Ryan, for them to get able
to go out there and basically just play forty eight
minutes of Ryan football. They played great defense, Quinn hen again,
the quarterback play made them big time throws and they
ran the ball with Nemo Warmatee. It was spectacular. And
they are now through to the five A Division one
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State semifinals where they get Highland Park in what is
as I mentioned on Texas of Wall dot Com of
a high school football fan of a not so by
gone era remembers Hiland Park versus Ryan as an annual tradition.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They're getting that band in the dock together.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And then Longview over De Soto is the single most
shocking result of the year in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And it's not that long View beat.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
De Soto, although that is certainly surprising. It is that
long View drummed De Soto and Boosey Washington, the running
back for Longview, I think he's the most dangerous player in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Texas right now.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
He ran for three hundred yards and five touchdowns. They
just lined up in twenty one personnel and they just
ran the dang ball at DeSoto and De Sota couldn't
do anything about it. So yeah, and it really reshaped
both the sixth A Division two state brackets as well
as five A Division one because the teams that we
thought were penciled in to a spot in Arlington suddenly
are gone and you're going to have some party crashers there.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Absolutely, Wimberley le Vega, I mean that sets up is
a real quirker in Georgetown on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
A coin flip.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
A coin flip, because you, first of all, you want
to talk about I think a matchup of the two.
I just go so far as to say the two
single most underrated coaches in Texas high school football.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
In Don Hyde and Doug Warren.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
What those guys do at those programs, The consistent success
there is absolutely remarkable.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So it's a great coaching matchup.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And then you've got star power here Cody Silver just
an unbelievable career, what he's done there at Wimberley, looking
to finish that with a state championship.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And then you add it and then you look on
the other side Vega with Bryce and Rowland.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
They're running back who has been on another level in
the in the playoffs. Uh, something's got to give there.
But I think both teams are going to move the
ball and it's going.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
To come down to stop.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It is a fabulous game, uh there. And and one
of those too close to call type games.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, the other two Greater Austin aary teams for
those listing Hell of the Area might be curious. Vandergriff
has done pretty much what we thought Drew Sanders would
do in getting them through the bracket. Now it's a
challenge of a different sort to go up Agains Summer Creek,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah? It is?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And of course a team to play in the state
championship last year, they've got they their defense in the
front seven is relentless with Chad wood Fork uh and
and then they've got a quarterback in Blake Thomas, who's
who's one of the hottest seaster than a pistol right now.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's been unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
This is the final game of the week. Of the
weekend is seven o'clock in Waco on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Uh. I am fascinated to see if.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
If the offensive line for Vandergris can hold up against
this big front from from from Summer Creek and give
Miles Kavaki some time to throw. That's gonna be the
real question this one. If he's running for his life, the.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Game is probably over in favor of Summer Creek.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
But if they can protect and give him some time
to throw, I think their plays to be made against
the Summer Creek secondary.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's the real question there, I think for the papers.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And then the game that you and I are calling
on Saturday afternoon, Westlake and North Shore meeting yet again.
They know each other pretty well and meeting this time
in Katie, fourth time.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
In five years.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And actually they're going back to Katie, which is where
Westlake last beat North Shore. And this is a really
fascinating matchup of quarterbacks with Caleb Bailey before year started
for north Shore, going up against Reese Wives, who I
think is playing some of his best football right now.
And then if you like defenses, you're gonna love this
ballgame because north Shore's defense is outrageous. Okay, to two
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FBS cornerbacks, right you two power four quarterbacks quarterbacks in
Nigel Pringle and Devin Sanchez, plus outstanding playmakers all over
that defense.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Go.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And then you got on north Shore, or rather on
Westlake Elliott Shopper, who is I think one of my
very favorite players in the state, just a playmaking dude
there in the middle of that west Lake defense, and
they have been really, really sound all year long, as
we come to expect from Tony Salazar.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think this is a fabulous ball game.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I want to see if Westlake's able to control or
if they're able to control the line scrimmage on the
defensive side, because what Dorshore is good when they're throwing
the ball, they are unbeatable. When when they're running and
throwing the ball, that's the real question I think for Westlake.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, as you like to say, the meanest thing we
do each week I give you three games, and it's
not the one that we're calling is not in the list.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So I give you three games.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You choose one of the three you can transport to,
and it would either be on the other side of
that six A D one bracket North Crowley Duncanville six
A Division one, five A Division two Argyle, South Oak Cliff,
or and the third choice is the aforementioned la Vega Wimber.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I think I'm going north.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
To North Crawley Duncanville because I think we might see
something that hasn't happened in a while, which is I
think we might see somebody beat Duncanville. I think North
Crowley's got the juice. Quentin Gibson, Chris Jemmerson, Daniel Bray
Cornelius won They're loaded offensively. I want to see if
they can dethrone Duncanville. They got embarrassed last year against
those Panthers, got embarrassed by the other Panthers, you know,
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And I think that North Crowley want another shot.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But Duncanville, even though.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They have struggled at times in the past couple of weeks,
they've got this weird trick where they've got an Alabama
signee at quarterback and an Oregon signee a wide receiver,
and they just it's the one weird trick to win
a football game, and so can they find a way
to contain that pass catch combo of Keilan Russell and
the Corey Moore's. It's also only one of two battles
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of unbeatens across the state of Texas. The other one,
just like we all predicted Stamford and Hamilton, which is
going on in Mineral Wealth.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, by the way, I didn't mean the gloss over
this the way you're feeling about North Crowley against Duncanville.
Are you feeling that way about Wall against Gunner?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think they got a shot. I think so.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's the notable thing is what this game isn't, which
is it's not Gunner Canadian because Wall sent notice to
Region one last week with a dominant win over Canadian.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And the thing Wall is a different Baul club. They're
not running a flexible anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They've got three thousand yard passer in Land in York,
and they are a track team, a legitimate track team
that has speed that I think can give Gunner some problems.
I think Gunner's got to be your favorite because of
there two time defending state champs. But wall is a
different a different kind of scenario and it's a different
challenge for Gunner than this Canadian team would have been.
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And I think that's what makes this this kind of
Mattine there four o'clock in Ablee on Friday really interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And finally, which of the Cinderella seasons, if any, come
to an end this week? Canyon West Plains against Thelina, Woodvillagains,
tide Haven or Joaquin a fourth place district against.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I think they all enter as underdogs in their
respective games.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Walking is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
A fourth place scene make into the title or semi
finals is unbelievable. And then I think Woodville's got a
great shot against tight Haven. I think tight Haven's probably
got the experience gap and that's probably it. But remember
Woodville's within the third round of the playoffs for the
first time in program history.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Now that in the fifth round of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But I think one of the things I want to
make sure we point out is Canyon West Plains, who
knocked off Stevenville last week in what I think can
only be described as one of the all time biggest
pedigree upsets in Texas high school football history. I mean,
you're talking about third year varsity program beating one of
the most decorated programs in Texas high school football history
in Stevenville. And now they have an opportunity to pull
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the greatest double dip in pedigree disparity history. If they
knock off Stephenville in Salina in consecutive week they might
as well just like hang the banner then, because that
would be truly remarkable if they can pull.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
It off, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He's Greg Tapper, managing editor David Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
I actually we'll be back in the studio with him
and Aaron Hartigan on Saturday night. That's after Tip and
I call Westlake against north Shore for fan Duel Sports
Southwest Saturday afternoon at two o'clock.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Appreciate the timetap. Looking forward to the weekend meet too,
my friends.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
All right, that's Greag Tapper from Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine.
We'll get back to some college notes coming up on
Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone.
With regard to football that we always enjoy visiting with
the managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine. And
not only that, my co host on High School Scoreboard
Live alongside Aaron Hartigan as well, and I'm happy to
say I'll actually be able to join them again on
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the program, So look forward to doing that. We'll be there,
Greg Teppers, how you doing, Tip.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And a quick note on Willie Nelson, which is a
great way to start a.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sentence in the state of Texas.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yes, there is, there is a very I'll tweet this out.
I haven't tweeted it out in a couple of years.
I think my favorite video on the internet is this
really like bizarre video it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Is, It's on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is I believe in Daryl Royle's birthday. And they
are sitting It's a group of people sitting in an
apartment with Willie Nelson sitting like cross legged on the
floor playing one of his songs songs, And you panned
the camera pans up to the couch there and sitting
next to one another are Lee Corso and Dave Campbell
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and Rema Campbell sitting on a couch listening to.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Willie Nelson at DK our birthday party.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It is truly just a snapshot in time from like
nineteen seventy two or something. I watch it like every
three three months when I remember about it. It is
one of the wildest videos you'll ever see.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, I would imagine, especially with some of the other
company mention. Now, you do fully understand that down in
these parts, seeing photographs of Coach Royal and Willie was
a really rather commonplace thing. They played golf together a lot.
They had the Ben, Willie and Daryl Golf Tournament for
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decades with Ben Crenshaw and Willie Nelson and Daryl Royal,
and that it was adopted later after Coach Royal passed
by Mack Brown with the Mac Jack McConaughey, which is
with Mac Brown, Jack Ingram and Matthew McConaughey. Even after
even after Mac went to North Carolina, they still have
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the Mac Jack and McConaughey.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So, uh so that works out. But you're but you're
right seeing some.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Of those pictures, and I'll tell you the thing that
really just flipped me out, And it happened only because
it happened by happenstance when they first made when we
were all still into in the uh in the age
of it doesn't seem like it's been that long ago.
Tip that we will watch DVD's on television, right, Uh,
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there was a there was a d They started offering
the DVD sets of Saturday Night Live, and I bought
I think the first four seasons were available. So in
the first season, there is an episode that is hosted
by Mary kay Place who was an actor and producer
and director who was in television a lot in the
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seventies and eighties.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The the muschool guest was Willy Nelson, and Willie sings
his acts and stuff like that. And so they do it,
and they have this episode and when it's over, you know,
when they come out on stage and they wave and
they say thank you thanks to Willie Nelson. Think, oh
blah blah blah. And then people are standing there on
the stage hugging each other. During the credits, well among
the people out there, just sounder elseon.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I did a double take. There's Darrel Royal standing on
the stage. It's Saturday I Live. If you go back,
if you find it, you find it the.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Episode and I think what all the Saturday Night Live
episodes are now available.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I think it used to be on Hulu. I don't
know if it's is it Camas Were Peacock two, Nat
the Cock, Yeah, Rock Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
If you look up the episode and it's in the
first maybe the second season, but I'm almost an undercent.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Sure it's the first year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Look for Mary k Place to host, and you'll see
and Willie Nelson's a musical guest. And you go to
the credits, you'll see Coach Royal with those glasses he
was wearing at the end of his coaching career.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Standing there. I my jaw hit the floor. I thought,
one of these.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Things is not like the other Coach Royal and Saturday
Night Live and NET Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Coach Royle had a sense of humor, but that's probably
a little rich for his for his comedy chops, I'll
be honest.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And I'm sure Willie though Clawn was going up there
and probably calling out.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
On the stage at the end of everyone was waving.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I couldn't believe it so spectacular all right, So, speaking
of of of astronomically uncommon things in Texas, I can't
remember it were you, at least from Afar or as
a kid growing up in the Dallas Forward metroplex. And
still are you a frustrated Cowboys fan?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not. Somehow I ducked it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Long story short, my family moved around a little bit.
I moved back when I was when I was in
middle school, and at that point that was the Quincy.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Carter era of the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
That's really when I started gaining football consciousness, and I
just thought, I don't need I don't need this pain.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Like I've got the I've got the Texas Rangers. That's enough.
So no, I'm not. I'm not a long.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Suffering Cowboys fan. But they're all a lot of them
in my life that I know are in some pain today.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, Cameron Parker is kind of this divorced himself from it,
but he can't completely let go. But we're telling him,
you know, it's kind of either something or another thing,
something about getting off the pot or whatever. But anyway,
just because we've seen you and I have seen even
this year, and we see it every year, some bizarre
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things happen on a football field. With the amount of
take that we watch and the amount of live telecast.
We watch of college and high school football games, so
maybe we shouldn't be that shocked or surprise, especially since
the Cowboys were involved about what happened with that block
punt moving forward, don't touch it a warrior that it happens.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Can I tell you something?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And I think you'll agree with this.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
There is and certainly I understand that the NFL is
it is like people are coming in and coming out
and stuff like that, and there's roster turnover, especially on
the special teams where players get injured and get healthy
and stuff. But I would say that that is a
mistake that ninety eight percent of high school football teams
in Texas don't make that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They're just that they they understand that they are all drilled.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I think part of it is that like everyone
goes through special teams drills, you know, on on on
usually on Thursday Thursday, if you plan on Friday Thursday,
we're doing a lofer room, we're doing special teams and
we're practicing. Hey, you know, we're attracting Yell and Peter,
we're getting away from the ball and so yeah, that
was one thing that crossed my mind last night, was
like that was I would say that that is a
that is an amateur play from from the Cowboys special teams.
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But even amateurs I think could avoid something like that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Okay, And notice how everybody was recalling nineteen ninety three
and Leon Rolette. This is the most celebrating example of
that very same type of mistake. Unfortunately it loves a cowboy,
same deal.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You're wearing the same helmet, man, Like, you need to
sew a little bit about you.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Guys have a history of this kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, let's let's start with from college football and get
your thoughts first of all on the bowl selections for
the teams in the state. And and by the way,
I guess we should do a tip of the cap
to incarnate word at the FCS level, which is advanced
to the next round. And even though it didn't work
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out for Charleton and Abilene Christian in their first year
of eligibility for FCS playoffs, I think they showed themselves
well to be able to advance to it there.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
And now you got incarnate word taken the next step.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, and I will say that overall, it's just a
really healthy year for football in the state of Texas.
Mary Hard and bayl are still live in the divisions
three ranks. You mentioned, you know, you mentioned incarnate words
is still cooking.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And then yet ten of.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The thirteen FBS teams in the state of Texas qualified
for bowls, and that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That is not nothing, and that is there.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
There have been years in the past where that would
have been a cause for celebration. But overall, you know,
between Texas getting two teams in the in the in
the college Football playoffs and another eight teams going bowling,
I think that that the state of the union as
far as Texas football is concerned, is very strong, not
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just at the FBS level and not just at even
the power floor level, but all the way down to
the to the SCS, the Division two, the Division three levels.
There's just a real healthiness to the football landscape right
now that we haven't seen in a while. There were
some lean years back in the later part of the
last decade where ten teams making.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
The playoff, making that could.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Be uh making you know, the bowl a bowl would
have seemed impossible. But things have certainly rebounded.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
In a big way here in the Lone Star state.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Were you as many were.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Feeling uneasy about AMU's chances to get into the playoff
field after Saturday nights.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, yeah, because you're leaving it up to a committee.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And I've said this before. I have a very cynical
view here. I recognize that, but but I always view these.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
People as television executives and not football people. That's what
they're doing. They're making television decisions.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And the right television move is probably to put in
Alabama over SMU. But I think that you know, our
Mike Craven was there in Charlotte for this game and
when when SMU drove to tie the game, uh and
came with the game tying score. Obviously it didn't last,
but he he even put in our in our kind
of our team slack.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Just saying I think they clinched the playoff spot with that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Drive, that getting there and being that competitive, I think
is going to take away any sort of doubt. And
sure enough, Look, I think it's worth saying, like commend
the committee. I think they did the right thing, and
they put the right teams in there, the teams, the
most deserving teams in there, and they didn't let the
brand name get in the way.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And and I think that Semu is deserving of making the playoffs.
So I think that that was that was a pleasant surprise.
But I think especially considering last year with the the
nonsense they pulled with Florida State, I think that that uh,
there were there were SMU fans and people who observe
S and U who were understandably very leery of the
of the of the playoff bracket reveal, simply because they
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wanted to make sure that the committee would do of
them they didn't last year, which is to take a
look at the teams and and and make the right
decision as far as the teams that are most deserving
of the playoff, which I think is certainly SMU instead
of a team that got drilled by Oklahoma or in
a team that lost to.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Vanderbilt, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Greg Tepper, managing edit Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, joining
us here on the program, how do you feel about
each of the two representatives from the state of Texas
chances in this CEP.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, we'll start with SMU, and look, there's no two
ways about it, and I do mean exactly what I'm
going to say. It's going to be tough sledding for
SMU quite literally. I think moving up going up to
State College, of course they are a and taking on
the Penn.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
State and Happy Valley.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That's going to be I think that's actually it's kind
of a poor matchup. I think for SMU, I don't
think they match up very well with Penn State. The
things that Penn State does well kind of neutralize the
things that SMU does well. And I'm a little concerned
about that. And they are fond of doing a white out,
and it may in fact to be in multiple.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Ways a wide out.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
One of the things that I think people don't necessarily
realize and may be taken into account is that, like
there's a reason that all of the Bowl games are
in southern cities or they're in domes. Like there's a reason,
and it's because it's December and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It'll be the.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
First December game in Pennsylvania, you know, outdoors in quite
some time, you know, maybe outside of you know, whenever
they played Army Navy. But certainly that's if that's any
guide to what we're going to be seeing. We may
be seeing some income near weather. So for s and U,
it's gonna be tough sledding.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I think it's at a tough draw.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I thought Texas is the big winner of the playoffs draw.
I think they got an absolutely dreamy draw when you
take a look at their first couple of matchups, taking
on a Clemson team, I think they match up really
well against I'm just not sure how Clemson moves the
ball all that much on Texas, especially in Austin, I
think that's huge. And then to be paired up with
Arizona State, a team that obviously Big Ten champions and
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certainly deserving, but a team that I think everyone thinks
is a bit of an overachiever in this spot. I
think for Texas you're feeling like, hey, you know, and
for them to have to go to the Peace Bowl, right,
it's not like they're playing in their backyard in Arizona.
They're gonna have to travel across the country. I think
for Texas you do not have to squint very hard
to see them in the final four here. I thought
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for overall, for the way that the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Season ended in a bit of a bit of a disappointment, I.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Think that they have to be really buoyed and really
encouraged by grabbing that five seeds.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, and if they do win the two games, then
you're talking about them in all probability ticketed for the
Cotton Bowl, which, by the way, they've not played in
the Cotton Bowl game since my first year of play
by played for Texas the two thousand and two. It's
been twenty two years since Texas played in a Cotton
Bowl game. All right, now, in terms of the other bowls,
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I'm fully prepared to call Jeff Trailer and give him
seat restaurant recommendations. In Myrtle Beach they play Coastal Carolina.
It is kind of weird having to play a team
on their own home field there. But utsay close strong
enough to be able to I think handle coach to
win that Myrtle Beach Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, oh, I think so too. And the other well,
here's the other thing, and here's here's the if you need.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
To know one thing for you, I'm a big believer
that bulls are a measurement of how motivated your team is.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Here's the only thing you need to know right now.
UTSA is six and six.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Jeff Trailer has literally, at any level, never finished with
a losing record, never, never, ever, ever, not at Gilmer,
not at UTSA, he's never done as.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
A head coach. I think they're going to be motivated
going into that kick.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah. How about Texas Tech Arkansas and the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, hey, listen, we're getting Southless Conference back together. And
for Joey maguire, who grew up an Arkansas fan, this
is a lot of fun for him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
A lot of Texas high.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
School football products also on that Arkansas Arkansas squad.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That'll be a fun matchup.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And and I think the text got to feel really good.
I will again, if it's a measurement of how how
motivated you are to go in going to the game.
I think Joey mcgar is gonna have these boys ready.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
They are They've been very good in bowl games under
joe mguire, and I think that they they've got to
feel pretty good going into this game as well.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
All Right, and we'll talk about some of the other
bowl games next week when visit. But but uh, let's
talk about the high school playoffs now. And you know,
I don't know if I felt the tremors, after all,
I was in Atlanta, but I know the earth must
have moved when Alito lost in the state quarterfinals last week.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
That and as well as De Soto. With both of
those teams getting.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Those are the pair of tremors that were felt across
the Texas high school football landscape. You know, Alito is
one of those teams that anytime they lose in his news,
right when they lose, when Carthage loses, right when Katie loses,
when Duncanville loses.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There's just a handful of teams are like that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And certainly to go out there and to lose to
Dent and Ryan, a team they've already beaten, it's a
remarkable story there for Ryan, for them to get able
to go out there and basically just play forty eight
minutes of Ryan football. They played great defense, Quinn hen again,
the quarterback play made them big time throws and they
ran the ball with Nemo Warmatee. It was spectacular. And
they are now through to the five A Division one
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State semifinals where they get Highland Park in what is
as I mentioned on Texas of Wall dot Com of
a high school football fan of a not so by
gone era remembers Hiland Park versus Ryan as an annual tradition.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They're getting that band in the dock together.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And then Longview over De Soto is the single most
shocking result of the year in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And it's not that long View beat.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
De Soto, although that is certainly surprising. It is that
long View drummed De Soto and Boosey Washington, the running
back for Longview, I think he's the most dangerous player in.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Texas right now.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
He ran for three hundred yards and five touchdowns. They
just lined up in twenty one personnel and they just
ran the dang ball at DeSoto and De Sota couldn't
do anything about it. So yeah, and it really reshaped
both the sixth A Division two state brackets as well
as five A Division one because the teams that we
thought were penciled in to a spot in Arlington suddenly
are gone and you're going to have some party crashers there.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Absolutely, Wimberley le Vega, I mean that sets up is
a real quirker in Georgetown on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
A coin flip.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
A coin flip, because you, first of all, you want
to talk about I think a matchup of the two.
I just go so far as to say the two
single most underrated coaches in Texas high school football.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
In Don Hyde and Doug Warren.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
What those guys do at those programs, The consistent success
there is absolutely remarkable.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So it's a great coaching matchup.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And then you've got star power here Cody Silver just
an unbelievable career, what he's done there at Wimberley, looking
to finish that with a state championship.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And then you add it and then you look on
the other side Vega with Bryce and Rowland.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
They're running back who has been on another level in
the in the playoffs. Uh, something's got to give there.
But I think both teams are going to move the
ball and it's going.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
To come down to stop.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It is a fabulous game, uh there. And and one
of those too close to call type games.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, the other two Greater Austin aary teams for
those listing Hell of the Area might be curious. Vandergriff
has done pretty much what we thought Drew Sanders would
do in getting them through the bracket. Now it's a
challenge of a different sort to go up Agains Summer Creek,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah? It is?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And of course a team to play in the state
championship last year, they've got they their defense in the
front seven is relentless with Chad wood Fork uh and
and then they've got a quarterback in Blake Thomas, who's
who's one of the hottest seaster than a pistol right now.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's been unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
This is the final game of the week. Of the
weekend is seven o'clock in Waco on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Uh. I am fascinated to see if.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
If the offensive line for Vandergris can hold up against
this big front from from from Summer Creek and give
Miles Kavaki some time to throw. That's gonna be the
real question this one. If he's running for his life, the.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Game is probably over in favor of Summer Creek.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
But if they can protect and give him some time
to throw, I think their plays to be made against
the Summer Creek secondary.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's the real question there, I think for the papers.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And then the game that you and I are calling
on Saturday afternoon, Westlake and North Shore meeting yet again.
They know each other pretty well and meeting this time
in Katie, fourth time.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
In five years.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And actually they're going back to Katie, which is where
Westlake last beat North Shore. And this is a really
fascinating matchup of quarterbacks with Caleb Bailey before year started
for north Shore, going up against Reese Wives, who I
think is playing some of his best football right now.
And then if you like defenses, you're gonna love this
ballgame because north Shore's defense is outrageous. Okay, to two
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FBS cornerbacks, right you two power four quarterbacks quarterbacks in
Nigel Pringle and Devin Sanchez, plus outstanding playmakers all over
that defense.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Go.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And then you got on north Shore, or rather on
Westlake Elliott Shopper, who is I think one of my
very favorite players in the state, just a playmaking dude
there in the middle of that west Lake defense, and
they have been really, really sound all year long, as
we come to expect from Tony Salazar.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think this is a fabulous ball game.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I want to see if Westlake's able to control or
if they're able to control the line scrimmage on the
defensive side, because what Dorshore is good when they're throwing
the ball, they are unbeatable. When when they're running and
throwing the ball, that's the real question I think for Westlake.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, as you like to say, the meanest thing we
do each week I give you three games, and it's
not the one that we're calling is not in the list.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So I give you three games.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You choose one of the three you can transport to,
and it would either be on the other side of
that six A D one bracket North Crowley Duncanville six
A Division one, five A Division two Argyle, South Oak Cliff,
or and the third choice is the aforementioned la Vega Wimber.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I think I'm going north.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
To North Crawley Duncanville because I think we might see
something that hasn't happened in a while, which is I
think we might see somebody beat Duncanville. I think North
Crowley's got the juice. Quentin Gibson, Chris Jemmerson, Daniel Bray
Cornelius won They're loaded offensively. I want to see if
they can dethrone Duncanville. They got embarrassed last year against
those Panthers, got embarrassed by the other Panthers, you know,
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And I think that North Crowley want another shot.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But Duncanville, even though.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They have struggled at times in the past couple of weeks,
they've got this weird trick where they've got an Alabama
signee at quarterback and an Oregon signee a wide receiver,
and they just it's the one weird trick to win
a football game, and so can they find a way
to contain that pass catch combo of Keilan Russell and
the Corey Moore's. It's also only one of two battles
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of unbeatens across the state of Texas. The other one,
just like we all predicted Stamford and Hamilton, which is
going on in Mineral Wealth.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, by the way, I didn't mean the gloss over
this the way you're feeling about North Crowley against Duncanville.
Are you feeling that way about Wall against Gunner?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think they got a shot. I think so.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's the notable thing is what this game isn't, which
is it's not Gunner Canadian because Wall sent notice to
Region one last week with a dominant win over Canadian.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And the thing Wall is a different Baul club. They're
not running a flexible anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They've got three thousand yard passer in Land in York,
and they are a track team, a legitimate track team
that has speed that I think can give Gunner some problems.
I think Gunner's got to be your favorite because of
there two time defending state champs. But wall is a
different a different kind of scenario and it's a different
challenge for Gunner than this Canadian team would have been.
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And I think that's what makes this this kind of
Mattine there four o'clock in Ablee on Friday really interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And finally, which of the Cinderella seasons, if any, come
to an end this week? Canyon West Plains against Thelina, Woodvillagains,
tide Haven or Joaquin a fourth place district against.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I think they all enter as underdogs in their
respective games.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Walking is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
A fourth place scene make into the title or semi
finals is unbelievable. And then I think Woodville's got a
great shot against tight Haven. I think tight Haven's probably
got the experience gap and that's probably it. But remember
Woodville's within the third round of the playoffs for the
first time in program history.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Now that in the fifth round of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But I think one of the things I want to
make sure we point out is Canyon West Plains, who
knocked off Stevenville last week in what I think can
only be described as one of the all time biggest
pedigree upsets in Texas high school football history. I mean,
you're talking about third year varsity program beating one of
the most decorated programs in Texas high school football history
in Stevenville. And now they have an opportunity to pull
(22:47):
the greatest double dip in pedigree disparity history. If they
knock off Stephenville in Salina in consecutive week they might
as well just like hang the banner then, because that
would be truly remarkable if they can pull.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
It off, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He's Greg Tapper, managing editor David Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
I actually we'll be back in the studio with him
and Aaron Hartigan on Saturday night. That's after Tip and
I call Westlake against north Shore for fan Duel Sports
Southwest Saturday afternoon at two o'clock.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Appreciate the timetap. Looking forward to the weekend meet too,
my friends.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
All right, that's Greag Tapper from Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine.
We'll get back to some college notes coming up on
Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone.
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