January 8, 2025 • 42 mins
Gregg and Christopher discuss if Scott Huff is safe as the offensive line coach as he falls under the Ryan Grubb tree. The duo also talk about other intriguing candidates that could be a great fit for the Seahawks OC vacancy. We also hit the text line and read back messages from listeners, and we catch up w/ Ian Furness as he shares what he has planned for his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome back to the Greg Bull Show with Christopher Kidd
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either platform and you'll find us there, and you'll find Humillon.
This afternoon there talking about the Seahawks offensive coordinator search.
We're gonna talk about candidates for the offensive coordinator, a
new one. They're not internal, Mike McDonald says, and we'll
talk about the offensive line and where it's headed so far.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What Mike McDonald told us yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We'll do that right after headlines about to you by
Frost Food Corps Light Choose Chill. Mike McDonalds said yesterday
the reason he fired Ryan Greb after one season as
offensive coordinator because of alignment and vision, he said the coach,
the coach. Head coach said the vision of the offense
for him is to be physical and to dictate to defenses.
And that's what Ryan Greb wasn't aligned with, Meaning, you, guest,
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coach needs to run the ball more and shove it
down team's throat. We talked about how they were Seahawks
are twenty eighth in rushing yards, twenty ninth and rushing
attempts this past season, but seventeenth in yards per carry.
Adals said the Seahawks have already requested interview quote a
couple candidates from other teams. I asked him, I he's
willing to wait and throw the Super Bowl if he
wants to hire a coach from one of the teams
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playing in the title game a month from now. He
said he answer yes or no on that. If they
want to hire a coach that's on a Super Bowl team,
they can't do so until the Super Bowl is over.
He talked about Gino Smith's future. We talked about that
at length, and the fact that there's a March sixteenth
trigger for a sixteen million dollar bonus towards a thirty
one million dollars salary next year for Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
McDonald said, we love Gino.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
As our quarterback, and they won him back in twenty
He wants him back in twenty twenty five, but he said,
ultimately that's a quote Seahawks decision, meaning general manager John
Snyder vice chair Burke Colden, chair Jody Allen.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
The NFL playoffs begin this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The Chargers at the Texans is the first game on
Saturday in the AFC at one thirty, then Pittsburgh at
Baltimore Saturday night at five. Three games on Sunday, Denver
at Buffalo, Green Bay of Philadelphia, Washington and Tampa Bay
is the night game. That's going to be a ninety
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Los Angeles Rams, also on ninety three point three FM.
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The Raiders fired goach Antonio, who peers every one full
season on a job t parto No Tom Brady, you
may have heard of him.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He's going to be part of.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The decision committee on Las Vegas' new coach with Mark
Davis the owner in charge. It will be the Raider's
third coach in three years. Tom pellis serav NFL Network reports.
Brady asked Bill Belichick if he has any interest in
the job. Belichick, of course, just signed to be the
University of North Carolina surprise new coach. He has a
ten million dollars by on on the contract. If he
didn't want to take another job. The Bears are going
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to interview for their vacant head coaching job tomorrow. Pete
Carroll so of course, has been out of the league
for out of all football for last year, since the
Seahawks fired him twelve months ago. The Cowboys denied the
Bears' permission to talk to Mike McCarthy about the Chicago's
head job, which leads more speculation than Mike McCarthy is
coming back to Dallas. If Mike mcmarthy comes back to Dallas,
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so too, you would assume would be Brian Schottenheimer, his
offensive play caller, offensive cornerat I should say Mike McCarthy
has some say in the play calls in Dallas. Some
people have peg Bryan shot Hi. There's a potential target
to return to the Seahawks offensive coordinator, but he already
has a job, especially if Mike McCarthy stays in Dallas.
College basketball, last night, the eighth ranked Florida Gators at
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home smash number one Tennessee seventy three forty three, the
Volunteers first loss of the season. They were the last
unbeaten team in major college basketball. The You Have Men
are flying to Michigan today for games against sixteenth ranked
Michigan State tomorrow. That's gonna be on nine to fifty
am because we've got the Cracking at Columbus. On the
FM side, the Huskies are at twenty second ranked Michigan
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this weekend. Those Cracking are flying to a Hi today
to play Columbus tomorrow. Three thirty pre game show with
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tomorrow or semifinals start tomorrow. The Orange Bowl Penn State
Notre Name Friday, the Cotton Bowl Semifinal Ohio State against.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Texas yesterday, and runtin.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Mike McDonald had an end of season press conference that
had a lot of interesting tidbits.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We've played some of them already.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
How about the offensive line and Seahawks offensive line coach
Scott How's future. This was McDonald talk about how he
decides on improvement versus development versus experience on what he
chooses on the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't think that's specific to just the offensive line.
It's an interesting question. Probably the case by case basis,
It probably depends a lot on the confidence you have
in the person you're willing to develop. And there's some
positions where you feel like, hey, like let's just we're
always going to add at that position no matter what,
just because of the depth you need. Offensive line is
probably one of those positions where you're always going to
want them into being in kind of continuously build mode.
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John and I haven't talked about We're still working through
the beginning part of the strategy here and working through
the coordinator search, but those will the conversations we'll be
having throughout the spring.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And this is McDonald talk about whether he anticipates any
other changes on the coaching staff beyond firing of Ryan Grubb.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, it's tricky.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know, when you decide to bring in a new coordinator,
there's probably going to be some movement with it because
those guys are going to want we want our new coordinator,
feel they have a lot of influence in their staff.
So we might have some movement when that happens, and
we might not, So we'll kind of go through the
process and figure it out as we go.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That can't make Scott Heff feel too good.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He's the offensive line coach, of course, came from the
university of Washington with Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Grebb last year.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Chris Scott.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Hu's got to be waiting se mode right now because
he doesn't know if he has a job.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It depends on who the coordinator is they hiring what
he wants.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I'll be honest, I find it very hard to believe
that he'll be around, especially to Mike McDonald's point about,
you know, whoever that new offensive coordinator is, he's probably
going to have his old line coach. That in my
head screams, yeah, that might means Huff is no longer
with the Seahawks as well. But I don't know who
the offensive coordinator is going to be. We have ideas,
but we won't know until that's an ounce, So it's
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kind of a wait and see. And I know someone
else asked a question about, hey, do you see any
other moves happening? And you know, we won't know until
we have a new offensive coordinator and what the plan
is moving forward. So that's he's in a very uncomfortable situation.
It's kind of wait and see. It's almost I guess
you compared it to a guy that's on the roster
for the NFL team and they're drafting and you're wondering
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how they're gonna draft my position, whether it's gonna let's
say you play a linebacker, they take a linebacker in
the first round, Well, buddy, the chances are you're not
gonna be there. So Scott Huff is waiting to see
are they going to take that linebacker in the first round?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Is they going to be who is it gonna be an?
Am I out? Good guy? Scott Huff? Oh yeah, because
did we play then you interview me, played some modio?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so's He's a pleasure to talk to and the
players love him, and even the Seahawks in the one
year they loved him. The University of Washington for seven
years loved them. It was interesting though that Mike McDonald said,
we will give leeway to the new coordinator to hire
his own staff. That also speaks to whether the new
one's going to have experience or not. When I asked him,
does the new coordinator need to have NFL play calling experience?
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Mike McDonald said that is not.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
A prerequisite, but if he is older.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And more experienced, think I'm I'm just throwing the name
out Doug Peterson. And again we've talked about how whether
he would even want to come and subvert himself to
a thirty seven year old coach after being a Super.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Bowl head coach with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But say it was a Doug Peterson, he would have
his own. Press Taylor was his guy in the Eagles
and the Jaguars. Jory talked about that yesterday, how that
became a criticism in both places of Press Taylor having
all the play calling responsibility that and how loyal Peterson.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Was to him.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But you could imagine that someone like a Doug Peterson
would bring a Press Taylor with him to Seattle and
so forth. A more experienced the more experienced the coordinator
of the Seahawks hire it, and the more likely they
are to have a posse to bring in the guys
they've worked with and want to work with, especially in
the offensive line. And the other thing had told me.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
By him saying that, by McDonald's saying that he will
give latitude to the new offensive coordator to hire his
own guys.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He realizes that what they did offensively didn't work, both
in coaching and in philosophy and approach and all of that,
and he doesn't mind it new vision. That's the whole
reason they're making this move. So you're right, Chris, the
signs seem to be that Scott Huff wouldn't come back
in that regard depends though, if you bring in an
inexperienced one, a young hotshot. Think think Josh McCown, the
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quarterbacks coach from the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
He didn't have anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's only coached two years. He was in the NFL
for twenty years, but he only coached two years. And
that guy, that type of candidate may not have his
own posse. He might not have developed an offensive line
coach he wants, and that would lead Scott Huff to
perhaps stand. So it is one of the many interesting
tentacles to this decision. I also asked Mike McDonald, do
you want the offensive coordinator that you hired. Do you
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want him to have the ability to have full autonomy
of the offense. Will you just leave it to him
or do you want to Mike McDonald want to be
involved in the actual game day in the middle of
the game of the offense. And he said both. He
wants a coach that would have the ability to give
him full autonomy, but then he will also be involved
when he sees fit, which again is an interesting answer
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because it appeared at the beginning he was giving that
autonomy to Ryan Grubb and then tried to change that.
I wrote for the News Tribute in Newsture dot Com
yesterday that after the Giants game when he gave the
ball only five times to Kenneth Walker. I've since learned
that he sat down with Grub after that game and said, basically,
run the ball, but that we need to establish a
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physical tone. We need to help our quarterback with pass protection,
we need to do play action passes more.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Run the ball more. And that was the week.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Two days later, it was a short week when they
played the forty nine ers at home on Thursday night.
Two days after that game, Grub came out to us
and the media and said, it's one hundred percent on
me that I only gave the ball to Grub the
Walker five times. We had runs in the game plan,
I just didn't use them. Well, they still ended up
twenty ninth in the league in rush attempts, so it
didn't change even after an intervention attempt by Mike McDonald
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in early October after the Giants game. So who might
it be as the new offensive coordinator go ahead, Chris, Oh,
I know you're getting maried of.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We can play the audio first and then we can
I'll go to it next.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
McDonald yesterday, as I said, said he put in request in.
The Seahawks have put in request to interview quote a
couple of candidates from other teams. He said, there are
no internal candidates which take Jake Pete off for now
that take Ja Pete's.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Off the board.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
The past game corner of thirty nine years old, the
LSU offensive corner in twenty twenty one. Jerry Epstein, our
Weekly Guests, senior NFL writer for Yahoo's Sports so based
in New York and who has a lot of contacts
across the league in the general manager circles and coaching circles,
has talked to people about the Seahawks job. She says
it's an attractive one to people around the league because
it could be that you hear the opportunities with a
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defensive minded head coach that you could be quote the
head coach of the offense, which is that autonomy piece
that we were talking about. This was Joy's answer when
I asked her about the possibility of Bellingham native and
Ferndale raised Doug Peterson coming back now that the Jaguars
have fired him and other potential OC candidates.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah, I think that would be an interesting question. If
I were the Seahawks looking at Doug Peterson, I would
want to make sure that Doug Peterson, rather than Press
Taylor is calling his place. I think that was a
big question first in Philadelphia and then in Jacksonville, where
he continued to let Press Taylor call his plays, perhaps
to some people's chagrin. I think what's interesting also is
that some of the best candidates, like Josh McCown I
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think will be really interesting Nick Kaylee with the Rams,
those are some guys who don't have play calling experience
who if I were seat a lot, I would interview,
but we're not play calling experience. I mean again, in
addition to Doug Peterson, you've got Frank Greig, You've got
a guy like Anthony Lynn who has spent this year
with Washington. Dan Quinn really valued what he was able
to do to support that organization, and clearly what they've
done with Jane as dandals has worked. And then the
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Browns parting waves with Ken Dorsey. I mean, I don't
think that was a reflection of Ken Dorsey not being
an effective offensive coordinator. I think it was a reflection
of the Brown hiring the guy who had a different
offensive vision than Kevin Stefanski and they didn't figure it out.
But when Ken Dorsey started calling plays for Cleveland this
year after and Watson got hurt, the offense looks better,
and I think that was reflective of a play calling element,
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not just a personnel element.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
She went on to mention Ken Dorsey the Cleveland She
went on to mention Josh McCown, the quarterbacks coach. As
I mentioned for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
There are others.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Mike Kaffer impressed people when he came out last year
at this time to interview for the offensive coordinator position
that Ryan Grubb got. There's Frank Smith, of the offensive
coordinator who also doesn't call the plays in Miami because
Mike McDonald, the head coach does. Frank Smith was one
of the candidates that Gino's excuse me, John Schnyder interviewed
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for the job that Mike McDonald got. The offensive coordinators
who have yet to have their full autonomy because their
head coach is a in fact, offensive play caller is
an obvious target and people are obviously pointing to is
potentially someone to look at at the Seahawks job. Brian Johnson,
the former offensive coordinator for Washington excuse me for Philadelphia,
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now in Washington as the quarterbacks coach, was another one
that Jory mentioned when he was the offensive quarterat in
Philadelphia didn't have that play calling responsibility either. It was
Doug Peterson, then it was Nick Siriani, and so it goes.
Those are the names that will pop up because of
one previous ties with interviewing with the Seahawks last year
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and offensive coordinators who don't have play calling responsibilities during games.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
There are others people are throwing out. David Shaw. Do
you remember him? Yep, Stanford. I have no reason to
believe that they were interested in him necessarily yet, but
that's just because I haven't been told. That doesn't mean
they're not.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
David Shaw, of course, the former Stanford head coach been
out of coaching here for the last couple of years.
It may be something like that, somebody who's not currently
in the NFL, but the process has already begun. The
Seahawks have at least a couple candidates. They've already asked
team for permission to interview, And as I mentioned, if
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it's a candidate who is currently with an NFL team
that's in the playoffs, then you have some rules about that.
You can interview him up until the division round. Then
there's a positor in AFCNFC Championship week, and then you
can't formally announce anything until after the Super Bowl if
those teams are even the coaches with the Super Bowl,
and the NFL does not like it if you announce
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a coaching change super Bowl week because they want all
the attention on the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So there are some mechanics involved.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
If you start talking to coaches who are on playoff teams,
which is obviously the more popular people to be interviewed
because of the success of their teams. And Ben Johnson,
for instance, you think Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator for Detroit, well,
he's getting interviews yet again, second consecutive offseason for head
coaching jobs. Same with Aaron gled the defensive coordinator for
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the Lions, who is getting head coaching looks the current
offensive quarters unless they don't have play calling experience in games,
they're not going to come to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
If to make a lateral move.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, you could throw associate assistant head coach titles around
and get pay raises that way around that, but it's
not likely that Ben Johnson, for instance, would come from
the Lions, the number one team in the NFC, to
the Seahawks, and a lateral move to be the offensive
coordinator just doesn't make any sense. So I think that's
why you would center more on offensive coordinators who don't
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have current play calling responsibilities. Four nine, four to five one.
On the telelem we're text line. When it's game time,
it's Tully time. We've already asked this this week, we'll
ask it again. Who you'd like to see as the
Seahawks new offensive coordinator and whether you think someone like
Doug Peterson is what McDonald should go for. It would
be the opposite of Ryan Grabb, wouldn't it, Chris, Because
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Grub had no experience in the NFL Okay straight out
of college. We talked about how that's the first Seahawk
O see in thirty years to have no NFL experience
and then be.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
The play caller.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, Doug Peterson won'll be the opposite that he's a
former Super Bowl winning head coach. Again with local ties
raised in Ferndale, Bourne in Bellingham.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Chris.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I got the sense talking to Mike McDonald yesterday that
this isn't going to be a long drawn out process.
I think, as we talked about, he's already got his
band in mind. We'll just see if he gets him first.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And I think he does as well.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I look around the league and I'm thinking, Okay, you
got the New England Patriots. Would Doug Peterson want to
go there? If in fact he doesn't want to get
another head coaching job, because right now, let's just look
at ocs. So you got that position that's open Cleveland Browns.
The potentials there, maybe he would want to take that job.
But the most attractive, I think, to Mike McDonald's point yesterday,
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is the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
One.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
You have a really talented receiving room. You have a
solid running back room as well when healthy, a good
running back room when healthy. You just need offensive line,
and I think that might be very attractive to Doug Peterson.
Aw this is also assuming that he's like, you know what,
I wouldn't mind working under Mike McDonald, a young coach
that has flashed his prow on the defensive side of things,
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that could be very attractive. And if Doug is willing
to say, you know, I'll come home and give it
a shot, I think that would be a huge one.
I think that would just be a still like it's
in my head. I'm thinking that's automatic. Why not go
after Doug? And I know you mentioned yesterday Greg that
what do you want to be under mac MacDonald?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is that worth it?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And I'm starting to think, you know what, I think
it is, especially if he sees the vision where he
could run this offense and it could be dominant for
the next four or five years because jsin you saw
what he's able to do right now, ty Lockett up
in question. But you hit the draft or a free agency,
you can find another receiver to come in that might
look at what DK and JS that I'm done and
say I want to be.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
A part of that.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Not to mention a new OC, not to mention how
good the defense turned things around the second half of
the season. So I start to look at it as
this is more of a job for someone that has
been around the league and sees the vision that Mike
McDonald wants and has envisions of. And now let's just
implement it and plan it out and let's go be
a super Bowl team the next two three years.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Let's do that. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
David Shaw, for instance, he's in the Jim Harbaugh way,
and we've learned Mike McDonald is all about the Harbaugh's
and down to how he runs the Seahawks are similar
to how John Harbaugh runs the Ravens. After McDonald spent
ten years there, he talked to McDonald again with Reverend
yesterday about Jim Harbaugh and his views of offensive line
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being the key position group on the entire team and
the team your balls around it, and he said, I
absolutely agree with him. You know how I feel about
Jim Harbaugh. Well, David Shaw is in that mode. Out
of Stanford, succeeded Harbard Stanford as the head coach that
played the smash mouth. He was the anti college football
college football coach, the one guy who bucked the trend
and played smash hard, smash mouth hard, knows football and physical,
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dictating the defenses, three tight ends, running it down your throat.
Asked the Washington Huskies about playing David Shaw's teams so
that would fit mentality wise and approach wise.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I didn't even think of vision wise. How about tem Martin.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I covered Team Mark and his third and final NFL
game in two thousand and three and the Raiders season
when he was a Raiders' backup quarterback. He's a former
Tennessee quarterback, National Championship quarterback at Tennessee who is the
quarterbacks coach now at the Ravens, and he coached with
Mike McDonald for two seasons. He knows John Harbaugh's ways.
He knows Mike McDonald from coaching two years with him
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in the same staff. He was a play caller before
at USC from twenty sixteen through nineteen. He's still young.
He doesn't have any NFL play calling experience, but he's
not brand new to how Mike McDonald wants to run
things and how John Harbaugh does it in Baltimore. That's
another potential option that he knows very well, and he
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wouldn't have to vet all that much because he worked
with them. It's those kind of thinking of alignment and vision.
Remember those two words that McDonald said yesterday. The reason
why GREB is no longer here is because of alignment
and vision. David Shaw and t Martin would be aligned
in vision the same vision as Mike McDonald for offensive football,
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no doubt. Would Doug Peterson maybe not. Would Doug Peterson
bring press Taylor and wo press Taylor maybe not. So again,
those are factors in play. And when you say why would,
there's no way McDonald would make this move without already
having a guy in mind. T Martin would be someone
who's already in his mind because he's worked with them before.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
But suffice to say, when I asked yesterday Mike McDonald's,
some people in the text liners chiming in that I am.
How does it feel to be Mike McDonald's least favorite
reporter if you only knew the report that Mike McDonald
and I have. I didn't feel bad asking him the question,
will you be more involved in this choice of offensive
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rolls than you were five percent? And he said more involved?
I was one hundred percent Invaulve last time. I will
be one hundred percent Invaulved this time. Well, he was
one hundred percent involved in the last choice, but that
wasn't his guy. Grub was presented to him. Grubb signed
the deal in Dino's eight days.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
After Mike McDonald got here.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So when Mike McDonald interviewed John Schneider said, hey, we
got a chance to get Ryan Grubb, who doesn't want
to stay in Alabama. We had a chance of bringing
back home to Seattle. He could be your offensive corner.
That's how all that went down. That's not the way
this is going down. This is Mike McDonald saying I'm
firing Ryan Grubb because I got my guy in mind.
So that's the difference here. But yeah, okay, he was
one hundred percent involved in the fact that Schneider bounced
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it off of him, but that wasn't his choice.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
He basically deflected and that's okay, Yeah, that's okay, And
you're not gonna come out and say, yeah, John Snider
runs that, but this time it's me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But he didn't like the question. I spent about a
good ten minutes trying to figure out how to phrase
that question because I knew he wouldn't answer. Well, of course,
I wasn't involved. Last time.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'm one hundred percent involved. What are you saying, Greg?
I know you're involved, buddy, but let's get to it.
It didn't answer who was gonna actually choose it. You
set it up perfectly, and then he was like, yeah,
I'm one hundred percent involved.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Next question please. Greg's like, I see what you did there.
That's funny. I laughed when I when I when I
was watching it, I smile After he said how involved?
I smiled. He kind of smirked at me.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But yeah, well, it's suffice to say, Mike McDonald I
talk a lot more than just in press conferences.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
But I think because he has his own guy in mind,
it's those T Martin's type of candidates that make him
that make a little more sense. We'll see and yes,
John Schneider will be involved as well, But make no mistake,
this was This was Mike McDonald's decision with John Schneider's support,
not so much with the Geno Smith contract situation. That'll
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be more John Schneider's decision with Mike McDonald's support.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And that's the difference. Four nine four to five.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Want to tell him, we do text and when we
come back, we'll read back your many many texts about
what Hugh Millan had to say about Geno Smith's future,
about the offensive coordinator situation.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Eleven forty five. It'll be I Farnessa's turn.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He'll We'll talk with him about all this and the
Krakend leading into his show from twelve to three. All
that coming up on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1 (24:24):
Welcome back to the show. Greg met with Christopher Kidd.
Before we get to your text, I just want to
go in a little deeper about David Shaw. He is
a senior personnel executive right now with the Denver Broncos,
so the Seahawks would have to ask for permission from
the Broncos. He's been reportedly linked by NFL Network and
others to interviewing for the head coaching job with the
Saints that is vacant, though there have been conflicting reports
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on whether he is going to interview with the Saints
or not, and NFL Network reported that he is also
going to be one of the candidates that the Chicago
Bears interview for their head coaching job. The Bears also
reportably interviewing Pete Carroll David Shaw. Chris has ties to
the Harbas. He talked about the Stanford tie with Jim
Harbaugh in two thousand and six. He was the wide
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receiver coach and passing game coordinator. David Shaw was for
the University of San Diego. You know who the head
coach was in the University of San Diego, then give
it to me, Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Mike McDonald is all in on anybody that.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
The Harbas are in on. Jim or John Harbaugh. Just
another link there with David Shaw.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'll just throw that out there. You know what the
music means.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's time to reback your text at four nine four
five one and tell them we'll do tex Sim when
it's game time.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's Tully time.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
We kick the show off this morning with Hubel Millan
and from the three six, oh, Hugh Millen for offensive coordinator.
We have to run that by him next time we
get him on, so next week.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Don't know that he wants that job. I think he
likes his current spot.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Hugh Millon, How many millions would it take to get
you off that couch and into a Seahawks facility? Man
from Marcus too, he might Texas happening, but appreciate.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The gesture you if you're out there, you want to
be the head coach or the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Play cards the Seahawks, do you.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
They probably put him as a pass game coordinator and
then elevation.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
From the two O six.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Guy Marcus, I've always thought having Gino play under his
current contract, then don't resign him in draft Beck. After
listening to you, I think any quarterback can do what
Gino is doing to cut him. Play Howell and draft Beck. Yeah,
then you must have missed Hugh's other comment when he
stated that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Howell is not the future. Well, John Schneider loves how
he wouldn't have traded for him.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, yeah, the question is did he see what
we all saw during training camp, preseason and then that
one game he had to play against Green Bay?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is that enough to scare him off of him?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It wasn't good enough to have me jump on board. Well, again,
there's a reason John Schneider traded for Sam Howe.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
He didn't do it just to waste draft picks. I
don't know whether he's I don't believe that.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I mean he drafted Alex Magoo, Yes he did, and
where's Magoo now?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I don't even know he's probably in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The answer to the trivia question in Seattle Sports that continues.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
To give back.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The Seahawks have drafted two quarterbacks in fifteen years, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
And Alex mcg Alex mgoo from the two oh six.
I don't think Sam Howell is the answer, but his
stats from twenty twenty three as a second year starter
makes me wonder.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It can make you wonder all you want. I don't
think he has done a good service either.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
When he was put into the game, he threw I
think what was eleven consecutive passes, So it wasn't the
best It wasn't the best moment for the offensive coordinator
and for Sam Howe. I will say that much. And
of course from the two o six, John and Jerry R. Cowartz,
Kyle from Kenmore, we're getting more. We're getting into that
baseball season right around the corner. Let's see Greg Kidd.
I just don't think we'll ever know from the two
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O six if John Schneider will hire someone quality to
evaluate offensive lineman before the draft. I mean, is that
something that's notable somehow?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Someone I'm trying to find the comment that the Texter
had about John Schneider writing Pete Carroll's coattails. Oh so
ignore that one five He was spot on until teflon
John has addressed nothing is going to change two five three.
The only way this Hawk's roster will get better is
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if Mike McDonald and his coaches are actively involved in
picking players in the draft. See I agree, don't trust
John Schneider to improve the roster.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
He was correct.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Ryan Grebb's hands were tied with working with the poor
offensive line and he was effectively made the scapegoat.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Fair three six zero.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
The Sounders with this one Hazes Ferrara trade have done
more to improve their offense than the Mariners have in
the last five years.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Shameful. Peyton Manning has the offensive coordinator L two o six.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Love that Millen speaks his mind and doesn't worry about
panning to the Seahawks organization, Snyder has earned the right
to be criticized. His offensive line record is well offensive.
He doesn't have a quarterback plan. Was offended by your
question when you asked about it after the draft. Doesn't
even see it as a problem. Obviously, as the salary
for Gino goes up, the chances for Schneider building a
championship roster go down. It is only going to get
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harder for him. If he couldn't do it when the
quarterback was getting less than ten percent of the cap,
what makes anyone think he can do it with Gino
getting fifteen or more percent of the cap from the
two five to three. The only way that I one
year nowhere to go if you were so involved. He
didn't like your question, Greg, When was McDonald hired and
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then grub hired eight days February one, February nine.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Do you believe he was one hundred percent involved? No?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, I believe he was one hund percent involved in
the decision, but it was not his guy. He didn't
He didn't come in here saying, hey, I want Ryan
Grubb to be my offensive corner. Before he took the
head coaching job, it was vice versa. That will be
opposite of this one. This one is, Hey, John Schneider,
I'm firing Ryan Grubb, and here's why, and here's who
I have in mind.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's the difference. That's exactly a one to eighty difference.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I didn't expect to answer some other textras question on
whatever my reaction was. Who cares with Myra. I'm a reporter,
but that's what the response. I knew he wasn't going
to say that, but when he said he was one
hundred percent of ball last time, one hundred percent in
ball this time, that may be technically true. But his
guy wasn't Ryan Grubb. His guy is going to be
the new OC. That's the difference from the two six.
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I actually liked this one. I don't know why bring
in fields and signed Gino one more year.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
What's the fascination with justin field?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
He did look good, he just couldn't throw touchdowns from
the red zone. Not that Gino was any better, so
it equaled out. But I think sitting behind Geno might
be even better, and he can be a dual quarterback
and the run game in pass game just an option.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
So I like that. That is interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Two O six. Grub did Sam dirty in that game,
and Mike knows it. That's twelve consecutive passes when he
entered the game.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Okay, so it was twelve. Yeah, that was That was.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
An attempt to show how Gino was better, and Mike
wasn't impressed.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I will say though, his first pass, a screen to JSN,
could have been a touchdown, but JSN went the wrong way,
so it.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Could have worked out very well after that play.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Four two five cuts to the chase on the whole
situation with the Seahawks last season. Is this the year
John Schneider changes a decade of strategy, going cheap on
the offensive line?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Probably not business as usual. If it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
If it's business as usual, then the new offensive coordinator
is going to fail and the offense is going to
fail because they can't run the ball. The people who
choose the offensive line, the decisions they've used, the approaches,
the strategies, the scouting must change or else the results
will be the same. To get different results, you got
to have different ingredients. Otherwise it's the same ingredients for
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the same cake. You want a different cake, get different ingredients.
You gotta have a different approach. If he does the
same thing with the same personnel decisions, with the same
people making those decisions through the same lens, you're gonna
get the same results. I don't know how that's not intuitive.
They have to change or else the offensive line won't change.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Four two five what's with everyone loving Gino? Dude was
not good, No, he was not good, but boy it
gets ugly out see.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't know if I can say he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
He threw forty three hundred yards up behind an offensive
line that was.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Porous under Geno standards. Not I think Gino what They
didn't have a good season, well, the team, the offense didn't.
But in terms of him, I thought that, As I said,
I think at times he was Hercules, Yes, at times,
but I think if he did the overall, I think
he was an okay.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, too many interceptions, too many interceptions in the red zone. Absolutely,
but his I think he can be really, really good.
He can definitely be top ten.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I think he's, you know, right out outside of the
thirteen fourteen range, twelve thirteen fourteen ranges right there. So
he just didn't have a good season. But even then,
Mike McDonald even alluded to this. He has masked a
lot of areas where we are struggling, and if they
didn't have Gino, ten wins wouldn't be possible. I'll say
that much.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
People were asking on the text Ligne about Sam Howe's
twenty twenty three stats with Washington. Yes, I'm aware, four
and thirteen Lee high, twenty one interceptions, league high six
hundred and twelve passing attempts because the commanders were back
behind so far all the time, Eric b Enemy had
him thrown all over the yard.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
He got killed. He threw up balls the fifty fifty
balls he admits shouldn't have thrown, and got intercepted. Yes,
some aware.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Chip Kelly two oh six says, First of all, you
would need a Brinks truck in a half to pull
up to Ohio State EUM in Columbus to get chip
Kelly away from that job that Ohio State paid him,
may know more than UCLA paid him to be a
head coach, to be an offensive coordinator on the best
college football team with the most resources and unlimited nil advantages.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You want him to come to Seattle and under McDonald.
I don't think he would ever do that.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'd if I was chip Kelly had stay exactly where
I'm and be happy to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Have you seen the mayor? I have, he's been walking
around the building, Yes he has. We got all these
textan we're going to go to the mayor already. We're
late's Kellen Moller Collen home to be the new OC.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know where Mike I keep stuck on David Shaw. Now,
do you know where David Shaw's first head coaching job was?
Give it to US Western Washington and Bellingham back when
they had a football program.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
That was his first job in coaching.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He's from the Bay Areas, from Logan High School or
excuse me, Union High School in Union City, California and
Logan High School in Union City.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'll get it right.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But his first job in nineteen ninety five was an
outside linebackers coach for Western Washington. Then became the tight
ends coach in ninety six, as before coach Western Washington
program disbanded, and then next year ninety seven, he was
a quality control coach.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
To the Philadelphia Eagles. Then he went to the Raiders.
Then he went to the Ravens. He got the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Before the harp Mike McDonald did, and before John Harbott
took over his coach and as I mentioned San Diego
University of San Diego USD in two thousand and six,
that was he was hired by Jim Harbaugh at USD
before he became Stanford offensive corner in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Anyway, I'm stuck on David Shaw.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, the mayor Maple Valley and for news, he's going
to join me to talk about all this and more,
leading into his show twelve to three.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
We roll on on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Welcome back to the Greg Belt Show with Christopher Kidd.
We're joined now by the great Mayor in Maple Valley
and for ness, who I've missed I haven't seen in
like weeks yet.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Yeah, yesterday, Well, and then I got to hear you
because I know that Mike McDonald hates you.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
We replayed it yesterday and for one reason, like I
know because I mentioned it to you, You and I
both for how was he going to answer it?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So he had to ask? I thought, I thought of
all hard, I thought down there.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
I had to ask a certain way, right, and the
way you asked it was perfect, But I failed.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I didn't get the response. I mean, it was, well,
it's factually correct, he responded. But by the way, he
doesn't hate me at least I don't think.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So we get along. Well, he's a west Point, father's
a west Point credit. Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Think with him, the context being that Schneider's Again, this
goes back if there's no availability for the GM, it
makes it very different. But the GM said when he
sat on a podium that he had one hundred percent
hiring authority over the entire not just the.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Head coach, all the coaches.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
We all remember that, we all heard it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It was there and.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Why the question was asked, right and mcgoughll I knew
he wouldn't say I didn't have any It wasn't grub,
wasn't my guy. I knew I had to ask in
a way that he wouldn't be answering that. And he's
not wrong in saying he was one hundred percent involved
last time, But he was one hundred percent involved on
a guy that wasn't his that was presented to him.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's like, come on, dude, But that's the difference between
now and then. Is now he's gonna it's gonna be
his guy, his guy, and it's his decision, right that
the whole thing created by him.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, that's that's that was interesting, you know, the.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
My our thoughts were kind of wrapping up after his
conversation yesterday. It was interesting, how so I heard Dick
Fan comes on afterwards, and he had a completely different
view of who Mike McDonald is than I did. And
I want to get your thoughts on this because this
was the question asked and Chris, you two Andrews asked
me a great question. He said, does Mike McDonald come
across to you as a guy that is a head
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coach in the NFL, Like does he have that or
that that it factor around you know, does he have
that right? Does he have is how does he come across?
And I said one hundred percent? And I thought that
from the day when he was hired last year, he's
he's evolved, like he's a lot more open, he's understands
how to deal with the media a lot better and
all those things. But when I sat there after we
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I did the show in the vMac last year and
on the Daves hired. He came into the little, our
little closet and we twenty five minutes sit down and Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Thought, for right away, I said, this guy's got the
hit factor.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Dick doesn't think so he kind of said, no, what
do you think about mapsenter one thousand percent?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I thought, so he knows more about leadership and leadership
principles than any coach I've ever covered. Carol was on
personality relationships, right, but the actual leadership principles, Yeah, I
mean the stuff that we joke about the military.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
And he's the son of a West Point grad.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
But there's a reason why west Point exists. Yeah, it's
a from eighteen oh two. It's the premier leadership factor
in the world. He has those principles that I learned
that the Army uses, that the military, the Navy seals use.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I agree. He did it from the first day.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
And you talk to the players and they say that
what do you what do you like most about Mike McDonald.
All of them say the same word, consistency. He doesn't change. Now,
he did evolve with us. He was much more open
with us and got more comfortable with us as it
went on, and he tells you more and he's directed.
But with the players win or lose money day Sunday Saturday,
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he was the same, very direct, very blunt.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. It was
straight to the point, and.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
He appreciates that part of leadership. He also appreciates motivation.
He appreciates consistency, that teamwork, that a standard is the standard,
if you don't meet the standard, you're gone.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And he doesn't care who you are. That's leadership.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I think he's the most now he's got experience and
all that he's going to learn from a leadership perspective.
The best leadership coach I've I've dealt with in twenty
five years. Yeah, not even CLO. I don't know what
Dick's looking at.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
I was surprised by that because I thought, I don't
just his demeanor on the sideline and things, I guess
I was. Yeah, I was really surprised. I because he
came across to me. Yeah, here's what really jumped out
at me yesterday. He he refuse, he refused, we're gonna
play some Mick cronin sound later cla he refused to
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throw his guys in the US.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, and they noticed that.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
Like Christian Haynes was awful, couldn't get on the field
as a third round pick. He's effusive in his praise
for him. I'm sure behind the scenes it's not that way,
but publicly, if you're a player, you have to appreciate
who and what he is.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
How about Gino Smith? He just comes on and says,
I love Gino Smith. We love him as our quarterback decisions.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
But at least somebody does.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
We love the locker room notices all of that. That's
and I think that's an important part of leadership. Yeah,
I feel I feel really confident about Mike McDonald going
ahead as a coach.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I really do.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
And I you know, it's the it factor. And like
every year there's those two or three assistant coaches in
the NFL that are the next guy. And I don't
know what the past fail rate is. It's probably lower
than fifty percent. Everyone's in love with Ben Johnson. Do
we know Ben Johnson's gonna be a great head coach
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or a good head coach?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
We don't. Mike McDonald passed a test the first year.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It also helped he out a three and zero start.
That buying in September really helped him. So then the
guys were, oh.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
This is where well, like I said, they didn't have
one quad one win this year college basketball analogy here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
No, but for the potation locker room. All they knew
was they were three and oh with a new head coach.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
They beat the slappies they had to beat.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Unfortunately he beat else all right. The friends music means
I'm supposed to ask you what you have on the
show today.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
Uh Am McCoy twelve twenty today, Washingt State Athletic director.
We'll check in with her. Nothing to ask her, nothing whatsoever.
Steve Pabozol thirty thirteen, previewing the wild Card weekend at
one Walltzo asking about grub and next up for the
Seahawks offensive coordinator, some guy named Mike Holmgren.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Coming up today at two.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
He'll be in studio and we'll going to play the
sound bite when Mike McDonald talked about Mike Holmgren in
glowing terms yesterday. We'll play that for Mike coming up.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Today a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
He will flatter him if he hasn't had it already.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
That's the Infrainaz Jess mcdarry inoson her stuff from twelve
to three as there every day. It's he's in his
cracking gear, but the crack and play tomorrow. They're on
their way to Ohio kaking game day tomorrow against the
Blue Jackets.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
At the three thirty pre game show, here Creig.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
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Speaker 2 (42:04):
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Speaker 1 (42:06):
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either platform and you'll find us there, and you'll find Humillon.
This afternoon there talking about the Seahawks offensive coordinator search.
We're gonna talk about candidates for the offensive coordinator, a
new one. They're not internal, Mike McDonald says, and we'll
talk about the offensive line and where it's headed so far.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
What Mike McDonald told us yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We'll do that right after headlines about to you by
Frost Food Corps Light Choose Chill. Mike McDonalds said yesterday
the reason he fired Ryan Greb after one season as
offensive coordinator because of alignment and vision, he said the coach,
the coach. Head coach said the vision of the offense
for him is to be physical and to dictate to defenses.
And that's what Ryan Greb wasn't aligned with, Meaning, you, guest,
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coach needs to run the ball more and shove it
down team's throat. We talked about how they were Seahawks
are twenty eighth in rushing yards, twenty ninth and rushing
attempts this past season, but seventeenth in yards per carry.
Adals said the Seahawks have already requested interview quote a
couple candidates from other teams. I asked him, I he's
willing to wait and throw the Super Bowl if he
wants to hire a coach from one of the teams
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playing in the title game a month from now. He
said he answer yes or no on that. If they
want to hire a coach that's on a Super Bowl team,
they can't do so until the Super Bowl is over.
He talked about Gino Smith's future. We talked about that
at length, and the fact that there's a March sixteenth
trigger for a sixteen million dollar bonus towards a thirty
one million dollars salary next year for Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
McDonald said, we love Gino.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
As our quarterback, and they won him back in twenty
He wants him back in twenty twenty five, but he said,
ultimately that's a quote Seahawks decision, meaning general manager John
Snyder vice chair Burke Colden, chair Jody Allen.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
The NFL playoffs begin this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The Chargers at the Texans is the first game on
Saturday in the AFC at one thirty, then Pittsburgh at
Baltimore Saturday night at five. Three games on Sunday, Denver
at Buffalo, Green Bay of Philadelphia, Washington and Tampa Bay
is the night game. That's going to be a ninety
three point three KJR FM. Monday night Minnesota at the
Los Angeles Rams, also on ninety three point three FM.
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The Raiders fired goach Antonio, who peers every one full
season on a job t parto No Tom Brady, you
may have heard of him.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He's going to be part of.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The decision committee on Las Vegas' new coach with Mark
Davis the owner in charge. It will be the Raider's
third coach in three years. Tom pellis serav NFL Network reports.
Brady asked Bill Belichick if he has any interest in
the job. Belichick, of course, just signed to be the
University of North Carolina surprise new coach. He has a
ten million dollars by on on the contract. If he
didn't want to take another job. The Bears are going
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to interview for their vacant head coaching job tomorrow. Pete
Carroll so of course, has been out of the league
for out of all football for last year, since the
Seahawks fired him twelve months ago. The Cowboys denied the
Bears' permission to talk to Mike McCarthy about the Chicago's
head job, which leads more speculation than Mike McCarthy is
coming back to Dallas. If Mike mcmarthy comes back to Dallas,
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so too, you would assume would be Brian Schottenheimer, his
offensive play caller, offensive cornerat I should say Mike McCarthy
has some say in the play calls in Dallas. Some
people have peg Bryan shot Hi. There's a potential target
to return to the Seahawks offensive coordinator, but he already
has a job, especially if Mike McCarthy stays in Dallas.
College basketball, last night, the eighth ranked Florida Gators at
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home smash number one Tennessee seventy three forty three, the
Volunteers first loss of the season. They were the last
unbeaten team in major college basketball. The You Have Men
are flying to Michigan today for games against sixteenth ranked
Michigan State tomorrow. That's gonna be on nine to fifty
am because we've got the Cracking at Columbus. On the
FM side, the Huskies are at twenty second ranked Michigan
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this weekend. Those Cracking are flying to a Hi today
to play Columbus tomorrow. Three thirty pre game show with
Mike Been four pm. Puck drop just after four right
here on your home for the crack in ninety three
point three k rpm. And the college football playoffs starts
tomorrow or semifinals start tomorrow. The Orange Bowl Penn State
Notre Name Friday, the Cotton Bowl Semifinal Ohio State against.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Texas yesterday, and runtin.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Mike McDonald had an end of season press conference that
had a lot of interesting tidbits.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We've played some of them already.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
How about the offensive line and Seahawks offensive line coach
Scott How's future. This was McDonald talk about how he
decides on improvement versus development versus experience on what he
chooses on the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't think that's specific to just the offensive line.
It's an interesting question. Probably the case by case basis,
It probably depends a lot on the confidence you have
in the person you're willing to develop. And there's some
positions where you feel like, hey, like let's just we're
always going to add at that position no matter what,
just because of the depth you need. Offensive line is
probably one of those positions where you're always going to
want them into being in kind of continuously build mode.
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John and I haven't talked about We're still working through
the beginning part of the strategy here and working through
the coordinator search, but those will the conversations we'll be
having throughout the spring.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And this is McDonald talk about whether he anticipates any
other changes on the coaching staff beyond firing of Ryan Grubb.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, it's tricky.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know, when you decide to bring in a new coordinator,
there's probably going to be some movement with it because
those guys are going to want we want our new coordinator,
feel they have a lot of influence in their staff.
So we might have some movement when that happens, and
we might not, So we'll kind of go through the
process and figure it out as we go.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That can't make Scott Heff feel too good.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He's the offensive line coach, of course, came from the
university of Washington with Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Grebb last year.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Chris Scott.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Hu's got to be waiting se mode right now because
he doesn't know if he has a job.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It depends on who the coordinator is they hiring what
he wants.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I'll be honest, I find it very hard to believe
that he'll be around, especially to Mike McDonald's point about,
you know, whoever that new offensive coordinator is, he's probably
going to have his old line coach. That in my
head screams, yeah, that might means Huff is no longer
with the Seahawks as well. But I don't know who
the offensive coordinator is going to be. We have ideas,
but we won't know until that's an ounce, So it's
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kind of a wait and see. And I know someone
else asked a question about, hey, do you see any
other moves happening? And you know, we won't know until
we have a new offensive coordinator and what the plan
is moving forward. So that's he's in a very uncomfortable situation.
It's kind of wait and see. It's almost I guess
you compared it to a guy that's on the roster
for the NFL team and they're drafting and you're wondering
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how they're gonna draft my position, whether it's gonna let's
say you play a linebacker, they take a linebacker in
the first round, Well, buddy, the chances are you're not
gonna be there. So Scott Huff is waiting to see
are they going to take that linebacker in the first round?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Is they going to be who is it gonna be an?
Am I out? Good guy? Scott Huff? Oh yeah, because
did we play then you interview me, played some modio?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so's He's a pleasure to talk to and the
players love him, and even the Seahawks in the one
year they loved him. The University of Washington for seven
years loved them. It was interesting though that Mike McDonald said,
we will give leeway to the new coordinator to hire
his own staff. That also speaks to whether the new
one's going to have experience or not. When I asked him,
does the new coordinator need to have NFL play calling experience?
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Mike McDonald said that is not.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
A prerequisite, but if he is older.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And more experienced, think I'm I'm just throwing the name
out Doug Peterson. And again we've talked about how whether
he would even want to come and subvert himself to
a thirty seven year old coach after being a Super.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Bowl head coach with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But say it was a Doug Peterson, he would have
his own. Press Taylor was his guy in the Eagles
and the Jaguars. Jory talked about that yesterday, how that
became a criticism in both places of Press Taylor having
all the play calling responsibility that and how loyal Peterson.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Was to him.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But you could imagine that someone like a Doug Peterson
would bring a Press Taylor with him to Seattle and
so forth. A more experienced the more experienced the coordinator
of the Seahawks hire it, and the more likely they
are to have a posse to bring in the guys
they've worked with and want to work with, especially in
the offensive line. And the other thing had told me.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
By him saying that, by McDonald's saying that he will
give latitude to the new offensive coordator to hire his
own guys.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He realizes that what they did offensively didn't work, both
in coaching and in philosophy and approach and all of that,
and he doesn't mind it new vision. That's the whole
reason they're making this move. So you're right, Chris, the
signs seem to be that Scott Huff wouldn't come back
in that regard depends though, if you bring in an
inexperienced one, a young hotshot. Think think Josh McCown, the
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quarterbacks coach from the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
He didn't have anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's only coached two years. He was in the NFL
for twenty years, but he only coached two years. And
that guy, that type of candidate may not have his
own posse. He might not have developed an offensive line
coach he wants, and that would lead Scott Huff to
perhaps stand. So it is one of the many interesting
tentacles to this decision. I also asked Mike McDonald, do
you want the offensive coordinator that you hired. Do you
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want him to have the ability to have full autonomy
of the offense. Will you just leave it to him
or do you want to Mike McDonald want to be
involved in the actual game day in the middle of
the game of the offense. And he said both. He
wants a coach that would have the ability to give
him full autonomy, but then he will also be involved
when he sees fit, which again is an interesting answer
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because it appeared at the beginning he was giving that
autonomy to Ryan Grubb and then tried to change that.
I wrote for the News Tribute in Newsture dot Com
yesterday that after the Giants game when he gave the
ball only five times to Kenneth Walker. I've since learned
that he sat down with Grub after that game and said, basically,
run the ball, but that we need to establish a
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physical tone. We need to help our quarterback with pass protection,
we need to do play action passes more.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Run the ball more. And that was the week.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Two days later, it was a short week when they
played the forty nine ers at home on Thursday night.
Two days after that game, Grub came out to us
and the media and said, it's one hundred percent on
me that I only gave the ball to Grub the
Walker five times. We had runs in the game plan,
I just didn't use them. Well, they still ended up
twenty ninth in the league in rush attempts, so it
didn't change even after an intervention attempt by Mike McDonald
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in early October after the Giants game. So who might
it be as the new offensive coordinator go ahead, Chris, Oh,
I know you're getting maried of.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We can play the audio first and then we can
I'll go to it next.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
McDonald yesterday, as I said, said he put in request in.
The Seahawks have put in request to interview quote a
couple of candidates from other teams. He said, there are
no internal candidates which take Jake Pete off for now
that take Ja Pete's.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Off the board.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
The past game corner of thirty nine years old, the
LSU offensive corner in twenty twenty one. Jerry Epstein, our
Weekly Guests, senior NFL writer for Yahoo's Sports so based
in New York and who has a lot of contacts
across the league in the general manager circles and coaching circles,
has talked to people about the Seahawks job. She says
it's an attractive one to people around the league because
it could be that you hear the opportunities with a
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defensive minded head coach that you could be quote the
head coach of the offense, which is that autonomy piece
that we were talking about. This was Joy's answer when
I asked her about the possibility of Bellingham native and
Ferndale raised Doug Peterson coming back now that the Jaguars
have fired him and other potential OC candidates.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah, I think that would be an interesting question. If
I were the Seahawks looking at Doug Peterson, I would
want to make sure that Doug Peterson, rather than Press
Taylor is calling his place. I think that was a
big question first in Philadelphia and then in Jacksonville, where
he continued to let Press Taylor call his plays, perhaps
to some people's chagrin. I think what's interesting also is
that some of the best candidates, like Josh McCown I
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think will be really interesting Nick Kaylee with the Rams,
those are some guys who don't have play calling experience
who if I were seat a lot, I would interview,
but we're not play calling experience. I mean again, in
addition to Doug Peterson, you've got Frank Greig, You've got
a guy like Anthony Lynn who has spent this year
with Washington. Dan Quinn really valued what he was able
to do to support that organization, and clearly what they've
done with Jane as dandals has worked. And then the
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Browns parting waves with Ken Dorsey. I mean, I don't
think that was a reflection of Ken Dorsey not being
an effective offensive coordinator. I think it was a reflection
of the Brown hiring the guy who had a different
offensive vision than Kevin Stefanski and they didn't figure it out.
But when Ken Dorsey started calling plays for Cleveland this
year after and Watson got hurt, the offense looks better,
and I think that was reflective of a play calling element,
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not just a personnel element.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
She went on to mention Ken Dorsey the Cleveland She
went on to mention Josh McCown, the quarterbacks coach. As
I mentioned for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
There are others.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Mike Kaffer impressed people when he came out last year
at this time to interview for the offensive coordinator position
that Ryan Grubb got. There's Frank Smith, of the offensive
coordinator who also doesn't call the plays in Miami because
Mike McDonald, the head coach does. Frank Smith was one
of the candidates that Gino's excuse me, John Schnyder interviewed
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for the job that Mike McDonald got. The offensive coordinators
who have yet to have their full autonomy because their
head coach is a in fact, offensive play caller is
an obvious target and people are obviously pointing to is
potentially someone to look at at the Seahawks job. Brian Johnson,
the former offensive coordinator for Washington excuse me for Philadelphia,
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now in Washington as the quarterbacks coach, was another one
that Jory mentioned when he was the offensive quarterat in
Philadelphia didn't have that play calling responsibility either. It was
Doug Peterson, then it was Nick Siriani, and so it goes.
Those are the names that will pop up because of
one previous ties with interviewing with the Seahawks last year
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and offensive coordinators who don't have play calling responsibilities during games.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
There are others people are throwing out. David Shaw. Do
you remember him? Yep, Stanford. I have no reason to
believe that they were interested in him necessarily yet, but
that's just because I haven't been told. That doesn't mean
they're not.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
David Shaw, of course, the former Stanford head coach been
out of coaching here for the last couple of years.
It may be something like that, somebody who's not currently
in the NFL, but the process has already begun. The
Seahawks have at least a couple candidates. They've already asked
team for permission to interview, And as I mentioned, if
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it's a candidate who is currently with an NFL team
that's in the playoffs, then you have some rules about that.
You can interview him up until the division round. Then
there's a positor in AFCNFC Championship week, and then you
can't formally announce anything until after the Super Bowl if
those teams are even the coaches with the Super Bowl,
and the NFL does not like it if you announce
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a coaching change super Bowl week because they want all
the attention on the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So there are some mechanics involved.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
If you start talking to coaches who are on playoff teams,
which is obviously the more popular people to be interviewed
because of the success of their teams. And Ben Johnson,
for instance, you think Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator for Detroit, well,
he's getting interviews yet again, second consecutive offseason for head
coaching jobs. Same with Aaron gled the defensive coordinator for
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the Lions, who is getting head coaching looks the current
offensive quarters unless they don't have play calling experience in games,
they're not going to come to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
If to make a lateral move.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, you could throw associate assistant head coach titles around
and get pay raises that way around that, but it's
not likely that Ben Johnson, for instance, would come from
the Lions, the number one team in the NFC, to
the Seahawks, and a lateral move to be the offensive
coordinator just doesn't make any sense. So I think that's
why you would center more on offensive coordinators who don't
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have current play calling responsibilities. Four nine, four to five one.
On the telelem we're text line. When it's game time,
it's Tully time. We've already asked this this week, we'll
ask it again. Who you'd like to see as the
Seahawks new offensive coordinator and whether you think someone like
Doug Peterson is what McDonald should go for. It would
be the opposite of Ryan Grabb, wouldn't it, Chris, Because
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Grub had no experience in the NFL Okay straight out
of college. We talked about how that's the first Seahawk
O see in thirty years to have no NFL experience
and then be.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
The play caller.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, Doug Peterson won'll be the opposite that he's a
former Super Bowl winning head coach. Again with local ties
raised in Ferndale, Bourne in Bellingham.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Chris.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I got the sense talking to Mike McDonald yesterday that
this isn't going to be a long drawn out process.
I think, as we talked about, he's already got his
band in mind. We'll just see if he gets him first.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And I think he does as well.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I look around the league and I'm thinking, Okay, you
got the New England Patriots. Would Doug Peterson want to
go there? If in fact he doesn't want to get
another head coaching job, because right now, let's just look
at ocs. So you got that position that's open Cleveland Browns.
The potentials there, maybe he would want to take that job.
But the most attractive, I think, to Mike McDonald's point yesterday,
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is the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
One.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
You have a really talented receiving room. You have a
solid running back room as well when healthy, a good
running back room when healthy. You just need offensive line,
and I think that might be very attractive to Doug Peterson.
Aw this is also assuming that he's like, you know what,
I wouldn't mind working under Mike McDonald, a young coach
that has flashed his prow on the defensive side of things,
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that could be very attractive. And if Doug is willing
to say, you know, I'll come home and give it
a shot, I think that would be a huge one.
I think that would just be a still like it's
in my head. I'm thinking that's automatic. Why not go
after Doug? And I know you mentioned yesterday Greg that
what do you want to be under mac MacDonald?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is that worth it?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And I'm starting to think, you know what, I think
it is, especially if he sees the vision where he
could run this offense and it could be dominant for
the next four or five years because jsin you saw
what he's able to do right now, ty Lockett up
in question. But you hit the draft or a free agency,
you can find another receiver to come in that might
look at what DK and JS that I'm done and
say I want to be.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
A part of that.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Not to mention a new OC, not to mention how
good the defense turned things around the second half of
the season. So I start to look at it as
this is more of a job for someone that has
been around the league and sees the vision that Mike
McDonald wants and has envisions of. And now let's just
implement it and plan it out and let's go be
a super Bowl team the next two three years.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Let's do that. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
David Shaw, for instance, he's in the Jim Harbaugh way,
and we've learned Mike McDonald is all about the Harbaugh's
and down to how he runs the Seahawks are similar
to how John Harbaugh runs the Ravens. After McDonald spent
ten years there, he talked to McDonald again with Reverend
yesterday about Jim Harbaugh and his views of offensive line
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being the key position group on the entire team and
the team your balls around it, and he said, I
absolutely agree with him. You know how I feel about
Jim Harbaugh. Well, David Shaw is in that mode. Out
of Stanford, succeeded Harbard Stanford as the head coach that
played the smash mouth. He was the anti college football
college football coach, the one guy who bucked the trend
and played smash hard, smash mouth hard, knows football and physical,
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dictating the defenses, three tight ends, running it down your throat.
Asked the Washington Huskies about playing David Shaw's teams so
that would fit mentality wise and approach wise.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I didn't even think of vision wise. How about tem Martin.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I covered Team Mark and his third and final NFL
game in two thousand and three and the Raiders season
when he was a Raiders' backup quarterback. He's a former
Tennessee quarterback, National Championship quarterback at Tennessee who is the
quarterbacks coach now at the Ravens, and he coached with
Mike McDonald for two seasons. He knows John Harbaugh's ways.
He knows Mike McDonald from coaching two years with him
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in the same staff. He was a play caller before
at USC from twenty sixteen through nineteen. He's still young.
He doesn't have any NFL play calling experience, but he's
not brand new to how Mike McDonald wants to run
things and how John Harbaugh does it in Baltimore. That's
another potential option that he knows very well, and he
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wouldn't have to vet all that much because he worked
with them. It's those kind of thinking of alignment and vision.
Remember those two words that McDonald said yesterday. The reason
why GREB is no longer here is because of alignment
and vision. David Shaw and t Martin would be aligned
in vision the same vision as Mike McDonald for offensive football,
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no doubt. Would Doug Peterson maybe not. Would Doug Peterson
bring press Taylor and wo press Taylor maybe not. So again,
those are factors in play. And when you say why would,
there's no way McDonald would make this move without already
having a guy in mind. T Martin would be someone
who's already in his mind because he's worked with them before.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
But suffice to say, when I asked yesterday Mike McDonald's,
some people in the text liners chiming in that I am.
How does it feel to be Mike McDonald's least favorite
reporter if you only knew the report that Mike McDonald
and I have. I didn't feel bad asking him the question,
will you be more involved in this choice of offensive
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rolls than you were five percent? And he said more involved?
I was one hundred percent Invaulve last time. I will
be one hundred percent Invaulved this time. Well, he was
one hundred percent involved in the last choice, but that
wasn't his guy. Grub was presented to him. Grubb signed
the deal in Dino's eight days.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
After Mike McDonald got here.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So when Mike McDonald interviewed John Schneider said, hey, we
got a chance to get Ryan Grubb, who doesn't want
to stay in Alabama. We had a chance of bringing
back home to Seattle. He could be your offensive corner.
That's how all that went down. That's not the way
this is going down. This is Mike McDonald saying I'm
firing Ryan Grubb because I got my guy in mind.
So that's the difference here. But yeah, okay, he was
one hundred percent involved in the fact that Schneider bounced
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it off of him, but that wasn't his choice.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
He basically deflected and that's okay, Yeah, that's okay, And
you're not gonna come out and say, yeah, John Snider
runs that, but this time it's me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But he didn't like the question. I spent about a
good ten minutes trying to figure out how to phrase
that question because I knew he wouldn't answer. Well, of course,
I wasn't involved. Last time.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'm one hundred percent involved. What are you saying, Greg?
I know you're involved, buddy, but let's get to it.
It didn't answer who was gonna actually choose it. You
set it up perfectly, and then he was like, yeah,
I'm one hundred percent involved.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Next question please. Greg's like, I see what you did there.
That's funny. I laughed when I when I when I
was watching it, I smile After he said how involved?
I smiled. He kind of smirked at me.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But yeah, well, it's suffice to say, Mike McDonald I
talk a lot more than just in press conferences.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
But I think because he has his own guy in mind,
it's those T Martin's type of candidates that make him
that make a little more sense. We'll see and yes,
John Schneider will be involved as well, But make no mistake,
this was This was Mike McDonald's decision with John Schneider's support,
not so much with the Geno Smith contract situation. That'll
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be more John Schneider's decision with Mike McDonald's support.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And that's the difference. Four nine four to five.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Want to tell him, we do text and when we
come back, we'll read back your many many texts about
what Hugh Millan had to say about Geno Smith's future,
about the offensive coordinator situation.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Eleven forty five. It'll be I Farnessa's turn.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He'll We'll talk with him about all this and the
Krakend leading into his show from twelve to three. All
that coming up on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
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Now back to the Greg Bell Show with Christopher Kidd
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Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Welcome back to the show. Greg met with Christopher Kidd.
Before we get to your text, I just want to
go in a little deeper about David Shaw. He is
a senior personnel executive right now with the Denver Broncos,
so the Seahawks would have to ask for permission from
the Broncos. He's been reportedly linked by NFL Network and
others to interviewing for the head coaching job with the
Saints that is vacant, though there have been conflicting reports
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on whether he is going to interview with the Saints
or not, and NFL Network reported that he is also
going to be one of the candidates that the Chicago
Bears interview for their head coaching job. The Bears also
reportably interviewing Pete Carroll David Shaw. Chris has ties to
the Harbas. He talked about the Stanford tie with Jim
Harbaugh in two thousand and six. He was the wide
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receiver coach and passing game coordinator. David Shaw was for
the University of San Diego. You know who the head
coach was in the University of San Diego, then give
it to me, Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Mike McDonald is all in on anybody that.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
The Harbas are in on. Jim or John Harbaugh. Just
another link there with David Shaw.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'll just throw that out there. You know what the
music means.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's time to reback your text at four nine four
five one and tell them we'll do tex Sim when
it's game time.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's Tully time.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
We kick the show off this morning with Hubel Millan
and from the three six, oh, Hugh Millen for offensive coordinator.
We have to run that by him next time we
get him on, so next week.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Don't know that he wants that job. I think he
likes his current spot.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Hugh Millon, How many millions would it take to get
you off that couch and into a Seahawks facility? Man
from Marcus too, he might Texas happening, but appreciate.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The gesture you if you're out there, you want to
be the head coach or the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Play cards the Seahawks, do you.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
They probably put him as a pass game coordinator and
then elevation.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
From the two O six.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Guy Marcus, I've always thought having Gino play under his
current contract, then don't resign him in draft Beck. After
listening to you, I think any quarterback can do what
Gino is doing to cut him. Play Howell and draft Beck. Yeah,
then you must have missed Hugh's other comment when he
stated that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Howell is not the future. Well, John Schneider loves how
he wouldn't have traded for him.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, yeah, the question is did he see what
we all saw during training camp, preseason and then that
one game he had to play against Green Bay?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is that enough to scare him off of him?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It wasn't good enough to have me jump on board. Well, again,
there's a reason John Schneider traded for Sam Howe.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
He didn't do it just to waste draft picks. I
don't know whether he's I don't believe that.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I mean he drafted Alex Magoo, Yes he did, and
where's Magoo now?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I don't even know he's probably in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The answer to the trivia question in Seattle Sports that continues.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
To give back.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The Seahawks have drafted two quarterbacks in fifteen years, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
And Alex mcg Alex mgoo from the two oh six.
I don't think Sam Howell is the answer, but his
stats from twenty twenty three as a second year starter
makes me wonder.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It can make you wonder all you want. I don't
think he has done a good service either.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
When he was put into the game, he threw I
think what was eleven consecutive passes, So it wasn't the
best It wasn't the best moment for the offensive coordinator
and for Sam Howe. I will say that much. And
of course from the two o six, John and Jerry R. Cowartz,
Kyle from Kenmore, we're getting more. We're getting into that
baseball season right around the corner. Let's see Greg Kidd.
I just don't think we'll ever know from the two
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O six if John Schneider will hire someone quality to
evaluate offensive lineman before the draft. I mean, is that
something that's notable somehow?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Someone I'm trying to find the comment that the Texter
had about John Schneider writing Pete Carroll's coattails. Oh so
ignore that one five He was spot on until teflon
John has addressed nothing is going to change two five three.
The only way this Hawk's roster will get better is
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if Mike McDonald and his coaches are actively involved in
picking players in the draft. See I agree, don't trust
John Schneider to improve the roster.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
He was correct.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Ryan Grebb's hands were tied with working with the poor
offensive line and he was effectively made the scapegoat.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Fair three six zero.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
The Sounders with this one Hazes Ferrara trade have done
more to improve their offense than the Mariners have in
the last five years.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Shameful. Peyton Manning has the offensive coordinator L two o six.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Love that Millen speaks his mind and doesn't worry about
panning to the Seahawks organization, Snyder has earned the right
to be criticized. His offensive line record is well offensive.
He doesn't have a quarterback plan. Was offended by your
question when you asked about it after the draft. Doesn't
even see it as a problem. Obviously, as the salary
for Gino goes up, the chances for Schneider building a
championship roster go down. It is only going to get
(29:13):
harder for him. If he couldn't do it when the
quarterback was getting less than ten percent of the cap,
what makes anyone think he can do it with Gino
getting fifteen or more percent of the cap from the
two five to three. The only way that I one
year nowhere to go if you were so involved. He
didn't like your question, Greg, When was McDonald hired and
(29:34):
then grub hired eight days February one, February nine.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Do you believe he was one hundred percent involved? No?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, I believe he was one hund percent involved in
the decision, but it was not his guy. He didn't
He didn't come in here saying, hey, I want Ryan
Grubb to be my offensive corner. Before he took the
head coaching job, it was vice versa. That will be
opposite of this one. This one is, Hey, John Schneider,
I'm firing Ryan Grubb, and here's why, and here's who
I have in mind.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's the difference. That's exactly a one to eighty difference.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I didn't expect to answer some other textras question on
whatever my reaction was. Who cares with Myra. I'm a reporter,
but that's what the response. I knew he wasn't going
to say that, but when he said he was one
hundred percent of ball last time, one hundred percent in
ball this time, that may be technically true. But his
guy wasn't Ryan Grubb. His guy is going to be
the new OC. That's the difference from the two six.
(30:26):
I actually liked this one. I don't know why bring
in fields and signed Gino one more year.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
What's the fascination with justin field?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
He did look good, he just couldn't throw touchdowns from
the red zone. Not that Gino was any better, so
it equaled out. But I think sitting behind Geno might
be even better, and he can be a dual quarterback
and the run game in pass game just an option.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
So I like that. That is interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Two O six. Grub did Sam dirty in that game,
and Mike knows it. That's twelve consecutive passes when he
entered the game.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Okay, so it was twelve. Yeah, that was That was.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
An attempt to show how Gino was better, and Mike
wasn't impressed.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I will say though, his first pass, a screen to JSN,
could have been a touchdown, but JSN went the wrong way,
so it.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Could have worked out very well after that play.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Four two five cuts to the chase on the whole
situation with the Seahawks last season. Is this the year
John Schneider changes a decade of strategy, going cheap on
the offensive line?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Probably not business as usual. If it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
If it's business as usual, then the new offensive coordinator
is going to fail and the offense is going to
fail because they can't run the ball. The people who
choose the offensive line, the decisions they've used, the approaches,
the strategies, the scouting must change or else the results
will be the same. To get different results, you got
to have different ingredients. Otherwise it's the same ingredients for
(31:50):
the same cake. You want a different cake, get different ingredients.
You gotta have a different approach. If he does the
same thing with the same personnel decisions, with the same
people making those decisions through the same lens, you're gonna
get the same results. I don't know how that's not intuitive.
They have to change or else the offensive line won't change.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Four two five what's with everyone loving Gino? Dude was
not good, No, he was not good, but boy it
gets ugly out see.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't know if I can say he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
He threw forty three hundred yards up behind an offensive
line that was.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Porous under Geno standards. Not I think Gino what They
didn't have a good season, well, the team, the offense didn't.
But in terms of him, I thought that, As I said,
I think at times he was Hercules, Yes, at times,
but I think if he did the overall, I think
he was an okay.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, too many interceptions, too many interceptions in the red zone. Absolutely,
but his I think he can be really, really good.
He can definitely be top ten.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I think he's, you know, right out outside of the
thirteen fourteen range, twelve thirteen fourteen ranges right there. So
he just didn't have a good season. But even then,
Mike McDonald even alluded to this. He has masked a
lot of areas where we are struggling, and if they
didn't have Gino, ten wins wouldn't be possible. I'll say
that much.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
People were asking on the text Ligne about Sam Howe's
twenty twenty three stats with Washington. Yes, I'm aware, four
and thirteen Lee high, twenty one interceptions, league high six
hundred and twelve passing attempts because the commanders were back
behind so far all the time, Eric b Enemy had
him thrown all over the yard.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
He got killed. He threw up balls the fifty fifty
balls he admits shouldn't have thrown, and got intercepted. Yes,
some aware.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Chip Kelly two oh six says, First of all, you
would need a Brinks truck in a half to pull
up to Ohio State EUM in Columbus to get chip
Kelly away from that job that Ohio State paid him,
may know more than UCLA paid him to be a
head coach, to be an offensive coordinator on the best
college football team with the most resources and unlimited nil advantages.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You want him to come to Seattle and under McDonald.
I don't think he would ever do that.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'd if I was chip Kelly had stay exactly where
I'm and be happy to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Have you seen the mayor? I have, he's been walking
around the building, Yes he has. We got all these
textan we're going to go to the mayor already. We're
late's Kellen Moller Collen home to be the new OC.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know where Mike I keep stuck on David Shaw. Now,
do you know where David Shaw's first head coaching job was?
Give it to US Western Washington and Bellingham back when
they had a football program.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
That was his first job in coaching.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He's from the Bay Areas, from Logan High School or
excuse me, Union High School in Union City, California and
Logan High School in Union City.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'll get it right.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But his first job in nineteen ninety five was an
outside linebackers coach for Western Washington. Then became the tight
ends coach in ninety six, as before coach Western Washington
program disbanded, and then next year ninety seven, he was
a quality control coach.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
To the Philadelphia Eagles. Then he went to the Raiders.
Then he went to the Ravens. He got the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Before the harp Mike McDonald did, and before John Harbott
took over his coach and as I mentioned San Diego
University of San Diego USD in two thousand and six,
that was he was hired by Jim Harbaugh at USD
before he became Stanford offensive corner in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Anyway, I'm stuck on David Shaw.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, the mayor Maple Valley and for news, he's going
to join me to talk about all this and more,
leading into his show twelve to three.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
We roll on on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Welcome back to the Greg Belt Show with Christopher Kidd.
We're joined now by the great Mayor in Maple Valley
and for ness, who I've missed I haven't seen in
like weeks yet.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Yeah, yesterday, Well, and then I got to hear you
because I know that Mike McDonald hates you.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
We replayed it yesterday and for one reason, like I
know because I mentioned it to you, You and I
both for how was he going to answer it?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So he had to ask? I thought, I thought of
all hard, I thought down there.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
I had to ask a certain way, right, and the
way you asked it was perfect, But I failed.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I didn't get the response. I mean, it was, well,
it's factually correct, he responded. But by the way, he
doesn't hate me at least I don't think.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So we get along. Well, he's a west Point, father's
a west Point credit. Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Think with him, the context being that Schneider's Again, this
goes back if there's no availability for the GM, it
makes it very different. But the GM said when he
sat on a podium that he had one hundred percent
hiring authority over the entire not just the.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Head coach, all the coaches.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
We all remember that, we all heard it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It was there and.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Why the question was asked, right and mcgoughll I knew
he wouldn't say I didn't have any It wasn't grub,
wasn't my guy. I knew I had to ask in
a way that he wouldn't be answering that. And he's
not wrong in saying he was one hundred percent involved
last time, But he was one hundred percent involved on
a guy that wasn't his that was presented to him.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's like, come on, dude, But that's the difference between
now and then. Is now he's gonna it's gonna be
his guy, his guy, and it's his decision, right that
the whole thing created by him.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, that's that's that was interesting, you know, the.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
My our thoughts were kind of wrapping up after his
conversation yesterday. It was interesting, how so I heard Dick
Fan comes on afterwards, and he had a completely different
view of who Mike McDonald is than I did. And
I want to get your thoughts on this because this
was the question asked and Chris, you two Andrews asked
me a great question. He said, does Mike McDonald come
across to you as a guy that is a head
(37:34):
coach in the NFL, Like does he have that or
that that it factor around you know, does he have
that right? Does he have is how does he come across?
And I said one hundred percent? And I thought that
from the day when he was hired last year, he's
he's evolved, like he's a lot more open, he's understands
how to deal with the media a lot better and
all those things. But when I sat there after we
(37:55):
I did the show in the vMac last year and
on the Daves hired. He came into the little, our
little closet and we twenty five minutes sit down and Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Thought, for right away, I said, this guy's got the
hit factor.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Dick doesn't think so he kind of said, no, what
do you think about mapsenter one thousand percent?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I thought, so he knows more about leadership and leadership
principles than any coach I've ever covered. Carol was on
personality relationships, right, but the actual leadership principles, Yeah, I
mean the stuff that we joke about the military.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
And he's the son of a West Point grad.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
But there's a reason why west Point exists. Yeah, it's
a from eighteen oh two. It's the premier leadership factor
in the world. He has those principles that I learned
that the Army uses, that the military, the Navy seals use.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I agree. He did it from the first day.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
And you talk to the players and they say that
what do you what do you like most about Mike McDonald.
All of them say the same word, consistency. He doesn't change. Now,
he did evolve with us. He was much more open
with us and got more comfortable with us as it
went on, and he tells you more and he's directed.
But with the players win or lose money day Sunday Saturday,
(39:01):
he was the same, very direct, very blunt.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. It was
straight to the point, and.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
He appreciates that part of leadership. He also appreciates motivation.
He appreciates consistency, that teamwork, that a standard is the standard,
if you don't meet the standard, you're gone.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And he doesn't care who you are. That's leadership.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I think he's the most now he's got experience and
all that he's going to learn from a leadership perspective.
The best leadership coach I've I've dealt with in twenty
five years. Yeah, not even CLO. I don't know what
Dick's looking at.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
I was surprised by that because I thought, I don't
just his demeanor on the sideline and things, I guess
I was. Yeah, I was really surprised. I because he
came across to me. Yeah, here's what really jumped out
at me yesterday. He he refuse, he refused, we're gonna
play some Mick cronin sound later cla he refused to
(39:54):
throw his guys in the US.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, and they noticed that.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
Like Christian Haynes was awful, couldn't get on the field
as a third round pick. He's effusive in his praise
for him. I'm sure behind the scenes it's not that way,
but publicly, if you're a player, you have to appreciate
who and what he is.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
How about Gino Smith? He just comes on and says,
I love Gino Smith. We love him as our quarterback decisions.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
But at least somebody does.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
We love the locker room notices all of that. That's
and I think that's an important part of leadership. Yeah,
I feel I feel really confident about Mike McDonald going
ahead as a coach.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I really do.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
And I you know, it's the it factor. And like
every year there's those two or three assistant coaches in
the NFL that are the next guy. And I don't
know what the past fail rate is. It's probably lower
than fifty percent. Everyone's in love with Ben Johnson. Do
we know Ben Johnson's gonna be a great head coach
(40:48):
or a good head coach?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
We don't. Mike McDonald passed a test the first year.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It also helped he out a three and zero start.
That buying in September really helped him. So then the
guys were, oh.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
This is where well, like I said, they didn't have
one quad one win this year college basketball analogy here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
No, but for the potation locker room. All they knew
was they were three and oh with a new head coach.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
They beat the slappies they had to beat.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Unfortunately he beat else all right. The friends music means
I'm supposed to ask you what you have on the
show today.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
Uh Am McCoy twelve twenty today, Washingt State Athletic director.
We'll check in with her. Nothing to ask her, nothing whatsoever.
Steve Pabozol thirty thirteen, previewing the wild Card weekend at
one Walltzo asking about grub and next up for the
Seahawks offensive coordinator, some guy named Mike Holmgren.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Coming up today at two.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
He'll be in studio and we'll going to play the
sound bite when Mike McDonald talked about Mike Holmgren in
glowing terms yesterday. We'll play that for Mike coming up.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Today a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
He will flatter him if he hasn't had it already.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
That's the Infrainaz Jess mcdarry inoson her stuff from twelve
to three as there every day. It's he's in his
cracking gear, but the crack and play tomorrow. They're on
their way to Ohio kaking game day tomorrow against the
Blue Jackets.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
At the three thirty pre game show, here Creig.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Bull the industry and Christ again again if you missed
Hugh mellon and he was really good breaking down John
Schneider's culpability and all of this go to the iHeart
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Speaker 2 (42:04):
Thanks a lot for listening.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Much more tomorrow we'll be here same time, ten to
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