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Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is the Hub on Hollywood and iHeartRadio podcast. I'm
your co host, James Rojas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm the other co host, Jamie Blanco.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
On this week's episode Daredevil Born Again Born on Disney Plus. Yes,
streaming on Disney Plus now. A lot of reviews have
been coming out because I understand the first two episodes
are out or is the.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Entire no first two first two episodes release?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, I have not seen it, So Jamie will be
good and a good person and give us a non
spoiler review of the first two episodes. Really looking forward
to that. A local Massachusetts native based actor appearing in
a new Hulu series titled Deli Boys Check we check
out the series premiere watch party. Jamie got a sneak
(00:54):
peek at that so that this one also looks really
good too. Jaws swimming back into the movie theaters. How
movies have changed over the years from you know, from
from when we first saw them at a younger age
to when we're watching them now. Have they aged gracefully?
Have they aged terribly? Do we see them differently with
(01:14):
our new life experience. We'll get into that and more, Jamie.
Let's first talk about, you know, everybody's talking about artificial
intelligence AI, for better or for worse. It is with us.
It is not going away. Hopefully it's getting better, but
for you know, in the hands of good people, but
(01:35):
speaking about those who may not be so good. The
folks over at Amazon Prime. I'll ask for your reaction
in a second. But Amazon they're testing out some new
AI generated dubbing over some you know, a select number
of TV shows, select number of movies. So say they
(01:56):
if it was in English, they're using AI AI voice
to overdub it, to translate into Spanish and vice versa.
When you when you first hear about this, what what
goes to your head?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Actors jobs?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Actors actors jobs?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Absolutely not. This is part of what you know. The
SAG after Union has been trying to prevent and trying
to protect jobs and it doesn't work. I don't think
it's gonna work at all. You're you're dubbing over like
a TV show with a digital voice with a computer.
Is the computer going to bring you heart? Is the
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computer going to convey the humanity of what's going on?
It can't. It can't say you're having a dramatic scene.
You know, it's my father whatever, or a romantic scene.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Me, Papa, Yeah, okay, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I don't. I don't see this working at all. And
even if you know, and I'm talking about like shows
being dubbed from other languages into English or English, and
I don't think that it can capture the heart of
what these shows need to convey. And who needs the
dubbing people who a don't speak the language, or maybe
(03:15):
you know, for people who can't see, can't hear, can't see. Right,
there we go. If you can't hear, it doesn't matter, no, no, yeah,
And then you were robbing them of the experience of
the drama, of whatever is being conveyed by the art.
The art is gone. Okay, artificial intelligence cannot replace art,
(03:37):
And I'm now mad.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, this is only the beginning, because they're rolling this
out under this kind of like pilot program. But people
already online have been blasting it, just saying, you know,
a wide variety of stuff. For example, folks on Reddit,
someone says, caption because there's no point in listening to
the girl from Google Maps talk throughout the whole movie.
Another one dubbles seeing this and knowing their jobs will
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be secured for a while longer just because of how
bad it is. Right now, however, somebody points out voice
actors seeing this and realizing they could have done this
work if it weren't for this, you know, crappy replacement,
and a lot of people talking about how they're canceling
Amazon Prime and other and other issues, saying Amazon, Hey,
don't worry. Amazon's a small independent company. It doesn't have
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the money to pay for a dubbing team. So yeah,
so we can play a little portion of this. This
is I don't know what show this is from, but
I believe this was an English first. And then and
then try to I mean, just just listen to this
fallahaskay okay, okay, okay, ok Yeah. So that well one
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one one thing that stands out. Not only does it
not sound smooth, it does not sound human, but also
I feel like it mutes the background noise. So I
don't know, I there's supposed to be music or just
like ambient noise in the back, but it just sounds
like it's kind of operating in a wind tunnel where
it's just like very echoe. You just hear the AI speak.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And it feels like every time there's like a shift
in emotion. You can tell that there's like a pause
and it doesn't like really emote as much. Right, It's like,
I wonder how they actually do this, like you have
got the line of dialogue and then maybe they tell
it now be sad, now, be scared. Now, gasp.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's a lot of work as opposed to having somebody
just go in and dub it. So Amazon Prime they
say the program will use a hybrid approach that allows
for local professionals to collaborate with the AI for quality control.
If this is the quality control that we're seeing and
hearing at the moment, not that much confidence, which again,
maybe people will be completely turned off by this and
(05:50):
this just this idea, this bad idea. Will we'll sink?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
How about this idea pay actors? Just a thought, He's
just a thought. But I want to see, like can
we do this like on the hub on Hollywood, because
I would just like to see, like the Spanish come
out of your mouth flame, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, to see how well it probably it probably sounds
much better than how I speak Spanish. So I'm out
of a job if that happens. But you know, speaking
of the prose of AI, the prose of artificial intelligence,
you know, you know, the AI giveth and they take
it away, take it away, but in this case, there
giveth a lot. Because there's this one guy YouTube channel,
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elf Tail Films. I guess he's done this with several movies,
but the one that's really like gone viral is a
music of a music fed an AI music fed version
of the Anakin versus Obi wan Kenobi fight scene. And
you saw it, right, Yes, I sent you a link
to this and the first time I saw it and
(06:51):
heard the song again. So for those who haven't seen it,
it's basically the scene where Anakin and Kenobi they confront
each other on Mustaphar right after Anakin, you know, force
chokes Padame and they use the the poster. Elf Tail
Films used AI to not only generate new images of this,
but to generate the actors singing the actual like the scripts,
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So whatever they're saying in the movie during those scenes,
it gets songified. And then and they made it into
this very like hardcore rock metal kind of version. And
I'll play a little bit just because like it's really
really good. There's one part that people keep like pointing
to that they love the most.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I love that Anakin, and I love that they actually
have microphones. Yeah, edited it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Like the AI had like brought in microphones and like
have certain points. Anakin and Kenobi are like riff, like
rocking on the guitar, like having a solo. So it
sounds ridiculous, but it actually it's very It's like an earworm.
It's in my brain now and I'm like, I'm just
repeating this following line of like all week long. So
here we go. This is uh Anakin versus Obi Wan.
But it's a musical. It's my new empire.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
My allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You will try.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's so hard it did not need.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
To go that. It does not have to go that hard,
but it does. And so like this is if we
could have this, if AI could just have fun, dumb
stuff like this, I'm all for it. I don't think
this harms anybody. This is like this is like another
level of meme, meaning that meming has been upgraded. Wow,
this is meaning on steroids.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's that's gone up quite quite a bit. But yeah,
fun stuff parodies and things like that, that's fine, but
not like legit music, because then there's the whole like
there have been so many ais like you take, like
all of Eminem's music, you put it into a machine
and you asked to spit out like an Eminem song
and it does and it actually sounds like legit Like
(09:05):
that part is scary. But as long as the lines
of delineation are clear on what is parody, what is
for youse, and what is like protected, that's where it
all gets blurry and controversial. But this is clearly where
it's okay, like.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is this is where I this is. Anything beyond
this is bad, but this this is it hits the
hits the spot. I think fil you, I fail you.
That's so good and it's funny because people just keep
commenting it like the goosebumps. This makes that all sequence
more intense like a music video.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So I have a question for Yeah. So there have
been books that have been turned into musicals, movies that
have been turned into musicals. Do you think that we
need a Star Wars musical? That's my question? H no, no, no, no, no, Okay,
they're pumping out.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Too many things. Are we don't need that top of
everything else we're getting? Is there? Just give me and
Ors Season two and uh, and I call it quits.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And the Mandalorian and Grogu movie.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
There's a movie I don't know, Yeah, the Mando versus
Baby Yoda. M Yeah, Mando versus Grogu movie.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Is there anything you think should be turned into a musical?
I could?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I could I get to have like a forest gum musical. Okay,
a fun musical.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, I did that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like life is like a box of chocolates. Jenny get
over here.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, no style, Hello, my Jenny, Hello, my dollar o,
my gumbom. I'm just going okay, oh goodness.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
But yeah, I'd be down for a forrest gum musical.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay. I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, I agree with you. Like that. You know what
else we like? We love our movies and projects that
are filmed right here in New England in Massachusetts. And
an all time classic and all time favorite, Jaws, It
is swimming back to movie theaters this summer for the
fiftieth anniversary Alamo Draft House. For example, they're kicking off
a summer long Jaw celebration over the Memorial Day weekend
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in May, hosting screenings. They have a Jaws on the
Water screening which will take place at the Alamo draft House,
roadshow in Martha's Vineyard, the vineyard and the vineyard where
the film was shot. They're gonna have additional jaws on
the water. Screenings that will occur in Austin, Texas in
June and in July. Now, quick little side note sidetrack.
(11:28):
When I was a kid, I wanted to be like
a little entrepreneur, you know, come up with a lot
of ideas and stuff. And you know, of course, back then,
I love movies. I love the drive in but I
thought they should make a row in theater experience. So
like you and maybe your date, you get on a
little like boat singing, and you know the water's not
that deep, but you know it's enough to float. And
now you cant a road to your post where there's
(11:50):
a like as as if you would drive to like
a post for a driving a theater, a drive in
movie theater. You have like like a little dog, and
like the little speaker you put in. Now nowadays just
tune on radio in your car. But back in the day,
you got this little speaker box and you would hang
it inside your window in your car, and that's how
you would listen to the movie. My idea was, oh,
you should be. You should have a row win theater
where you can row to your spot, have a little
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picnic and watch the movie. That would be romantic and
it'd be great to watch, like a movie like Jaws.
Someone else stole it. I guess they Almo draft house,
they saw my idea. I'm sorry, maybe somebody else, but.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You could see them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yes, too much work, too much work. I'll hire an
AI lawyer to draft all the legal paperworking documents. But
you go, yeah, Jaws fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I wasn't born fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, but neither I feel old.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I feel old. You know who's never old, who never
gets old? Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
She doesn't, No, no, she doesn't. She is a marvelous,
amazing human being. Jamie Lee Curtis. She is starring in
a film called Ella McKay that was filmed here recently
in New England. They are getting a release date on
that movie, which I forgot to look up. So let's
(13:08):
see the power of the exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Let's say lm McKay IMDb. Oh you know who. Also,
while we're searching, who else is in this movie? Another
a Boston native is Ao at a Bury. Yes, Ao
at a Bury from Dorchester.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
From Dorchester, so exciting. September nineteenth. Stember nineteenth is the
release date for l McKay. It's about an up and
coming political savant who is juggling familial issues and challenges
while being thrust upon the big political stage, the gubernatorial ship.
(13:49):
I believe so. Woody Harrelson is also in this good,
good looking cast.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Jamie Lee Curtis Ema McKay stars as La McKay. Yeah,
I don't like that. Actually, Camille Nanjiami Nanjianni is on
there as well. Let's see who else, So I know,
I don't know anyone anybody else but great cast.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah. So when they were filming here, they they took
over a bunch of local locations around Boston, Providence r Yeah,
and people had really good experiences, like with Jamie Lee Curtis,
because she is so gracious, because she is so funny,
just stories of her h joking with the cast, joking
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with the background actors, joking with people on the street
that were watching and waving, and just being just being
the wonderful, wonderful person that she is. So this one
looks really good. I'm looking forward to it. So September nineteenth,
Ella McKay, We definitely want to check out there one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
All right, let us know if you're going to watch it.
If you're planning to watch it, you should support it. Yes,
film not filmed locally. I don't know where they film
this this stuff or Disney must have like a giant
lots I'm sure, right, really just film everything?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah in one spot?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Is there a lot? I don't know what they do well, Disney,
they're out with with the Revived. You could say born again,
Born Again season series of Daredevil. Like I said, I
have not seen it. You saw the first two episodes? Yes,
I know the Internet is all a buzz as it
always is, always humming, always buzzy, never stopping. Some people
(15:34):
are going crazy over this, oh my gosh. Yes, in
good and bad ways.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
In good and bad ways. So it is really hard
to do a non spoiler review. It's really hard to
do any review of this without you say giving away.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Should go in blind?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh my gosh, we got to kick James out today,
But yes you should. You should go in blind. You
really shouldn't know anything about this. But even in that spirit, okay,
if you don't want to know, like not even a
single freaking thing. You skip ahead a little bit. We
have more local news, more local movie news in just
(16:13):
you know, like two minutes. But if you'd like to
hear about Daredevil, listen. I watched this with my sister
in law. All I can say is that while we
were watching this, the two of us were screaming, hitting
the couches, jumping, pulling our hair, like what the hell
did I just watch? And this can't be happening, and
(16:37):
holy crap, Like the whole time both episodes was us
just our jaws on the floor and just yelling and
shouting and just really, really really enjoying it. They took
some huge risks. We have Charlie Cox back obviously as
titular Daredevil. We've got Vincent Didinafrio back as Kingpin. We've
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got the we've got Bullseye, we've got the Punisher, so
we've got Tiger White, Tiger right. So we've got some
new villains, we've got some old villains, we've got returning characters,
we've got new characters. But they have taken a huge
risk in this season, shaking things up, shaking the fandom
(17:21):
to its core in a way that some people are
saying could have a big negative impact on the MCU,
could have a big negative impact on Daredevil itself, if
you know, if the rest of it doesn't deliver, if
this character doesn't recover, if like but you know what,
I think the risks are paying off. I think the
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risks are paying off in this Everything about it was
was compelling. Definitely in the original spirit of Daredevil. I
love seeing Charlie Cox so much.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
He's come back Boston with Vincent Dinafrio.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's right where we were with the Hub on Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Let me ask you this before we continue. So I
know that Daredevil Charlie Cox, Charlie Cox. Yes, he came
back for a couple episodes in She Hulk.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't know. I don't know if this is a spoiler.
But is that the same universe Charlie Cox, because in
that one he is much more laid back, a little sillier.
I would assume in the Born Again series he's serious
or is he?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Oh it's serious?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah? So is that definitely fun personality gone?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
It is a tremendous tone shift. Okay, so you're not
getting the Charlie Cox from that from from She Hulk,
but it is in the same universe, it's in the
same timeline. That's before the events of what happens here.
So carefree Daredevil is in for a rough ride.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Okay, so this is before She Hulk.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, no, after She Hulks.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Okay, so he So Daredevil's having a great time. It's like, man,
this is great. I had you know, I had sex
with a giant she Haul. Now I'm like, now he's
back to the house kitchen. He's like, dang it, I
should have stayed with her. This sucks. That being said
Vincent Dianafrio. His version of Kingpan appeared in Hawkeye with
also with with Little Girl Hawkeye, I I'm forgetting her name.
(19:22):
But in that one, he's a little more again a
little maybe a little more lighthearted, not not goofy per se,
but definitely less menacing or mean, I would say than
the than the original Daredevil series. Is that lighthearted kind
of silliness waved away? Also in this version, Yes, so
(19:44):
there is right timeline you mention it, but does that
I'm not sure if you saw a hot guy I did, Yeah,
is that? Does that? Does that bother? You?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You just not cared you did not think about that
little tonal shift.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
No, it's doesn't bother me too much. It might bother
other people, But I think that those things, those shows
needed to be what they were, They needed to be
in their universe, their tone there.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You know, it's thing.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I know it is, but you know, and I loved
seeing these characters in a different context, in a different
show where they you get to see a little bit
of a different side of them for for once, and
that I like, I enjoy that because once they get
back in their own show and you're following their main story,
it's it's much more intense and and all of that.
(20:32):
So I I want to see Daredevil happy, Okay, I
like to see him have that little romp with Sheethults
and whatnot like that. That was just so enjoyable. So
because because the hurt is coming, the hurt is coming
for him, and uh yeah, no, it doesn't bother me. However,
(20:52):
there are some fans James who I think they just
have unrealistic expectations for what this needs to be for
the mc U. I think that some people's like I've
just seen so many people go on rants online like
they're visions for what it needs to be for the
greater MCUs like so specific and the bar is just
(21:13):
way too high. I have minor nitpicks about what's happening
in the new Daredevil. Uh, but you've got to get it.
Give it some leeway. You've got to give it some
breathing rooms. Yeah, it's only the first, right, exactly so,
and this is another one that it's going to be
coming out every week, Disney. Plus, you got to make
(21:34):
sure that you've got the right kind of dis like
you've got to put in your.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Your age to get like the r Restricted and Wolverine,
like those types of movies.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And then don't mix up the Kid and this one
like Profiles or whatever, because it gets dark interesting. But
I think that people should go see it. I had
a great just experience watching it again.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Physical and your cousin or your my sister in law,
sister in law, sound like you're in a physical place. Oach,
Like you're like, we started punching the we turned on
the show.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
We're like, we got now let's watch this.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
That's funny. If we're in the mood now we get
very beat people up, all right, Well, but you so
it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You recommend, recommend it. Going with an open mind. It's
an open heart right. The last Dar Devil came out
in twenty eighteen. It's crazy, been a while, it's been
a while. Yeah, just going with an open mind. I
think that you'll really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, okay. And speaking of something that we are looking
forward to and that we are going in with open
hearts and uh and pretty high expectations because the trailer
looks amazing, is this new show called Deli Boys that
has just started streaming on Hulu. The synopsis is when
they're convenience door magnate magnate father suddenly dies, a pair
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of pampered Pakistani American brothers lose every thing and are
forced to reckon with their baba's secret life of crime
as they attempt to take up his mantle in the underworld.
Really looking forward to watching this. Also looking forward to
watching a local Massachusetts native actor who's popping up in
so many things, it's crazy, like his IMDb is looking fantastic.
(23:19):
But a local actor who we will be talking to
soon and he hosted a watch party recently.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yep Shasha Hot Con and he hosted a watch party
this weekend for Deli Boys that's premiering on Hulu. It
was at ZOOMX in East Boston, which is a fantastic
community organization introducing kids to life in the arts like music, television, radio.
(23:48):
Really great organization. I'm glad that he teamed up with
them for this event. It was great and they're like
in an old firehouse, so it was a huge turnout.
They screened about four episodes of the of the show
and did a Q and A. I was there last
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night with them, so we've got some footage of the
packed house, a little bit of his Q and A.
So let's give that a quick person right now. Oh well,
a welcome to zoom mix House guidelines. We are I
guess failed.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We are paps, there are there are is space still
on the floor over here.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Folks are okay, so.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I can't believe everybody actually came. There's a lot of
people here. We may be breaking the fire code, but
luckily it's a firehouse. I don't really have much to say.
This is probably one of the coolest things that has
ever happened to me in my life. I really appreciate,
specifically this whole community for always uplifting me as an artist,
but just like all the work that Subdrift does, all
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the work that Zoom Mix does, and yeah, let's watch
Deli Boys. And that's a great question. The question was
(25:19):
how much improv how much scripted? A good amount of both. Actually,
so the Matthew the golf caddie, for example, he was
cast originally just to do that one line where he
screams that Baba dies, but because this was his first
ever show or like first ever anything, because he was
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so he's an improv actor from Chicago. Because they liked
him so much, they ended up casting him as six episodes.
Even our characters, the Mullets, we were only supposed to
be in two episodes, but basically I think as soon
as the four of us sat down they kind of
understood the rest of the team sort of understood what
the concept of Mullik is, and then they wrote us
into seven episodes.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
In both Aftermath and This, some of the first words
out of your map were what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Phrase? Going forward? Me?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You do that?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And everything? I guess I can't Those are normally what
but should I? I don't know? I mean those are popular
words that I, unfortunately say all the time. Matt Sheer
or everybody. The coolest thing about this show was that,
you know, I've been on a handful of sets now
(26:34):
I have I've never really had like a bad working experience.
I consider myself lucky. But this one in particular because
of the nature of the show. It was such a
big family vibe and also because it was such a
big South a whatever South Asian say, in the sense
that it's not like heavy handed, you know, but like
everybody just felt like family. Like I've told this story
(26:55):
before where on the final day, you know, people would
come in on their day off, which is very unusual.
After on the very last one of the last scenes,
everybody was actually sitting on the floor like this. All
of the showrunners, the executive producers, nobody was sitting in
their fancy chairs with the names on them, and we
were all just like watching this guy do a stunt
(27:17):
because it was so cool. So and you know, so
there was that, and then you know, in terms of
the representation stuff, there was like two different There was
like Pakistani food in the catering. There was like two
different kinds of lussy mango, lussy rose, Lussi and people
like Brian and who would just treat you like equals
(27:37):
who would empower you to like be better, you know,
because for me, I was pretty terrifying to be here
on day one, you know, but you just there's no
other way. You just jump right in. And you always
wonder if I ever got to do something like that,
how badly would I mess it up? But luckily, like
they're all there to support you and stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So Deli boys, you watched the first four episodes, what
do you think?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I loved it. I loved it, James, because what's so
great about this is it's not just a crime drama.
It's like a comedy crime drama, and it is so
well done like these the jokes are not like forced,
and it's really it is really good. It is really
really good. It's poppy, it's current, it's hilarious, genuinely hilarious,
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and focusing on like East Pacific East Asian culture, and
it's done in just a really lovely way. But you see,
like I just I just loved it. I just loved
seeing like the Bubba's and the Aunties and you know,
all the little cultural references that are worked into it,
(28:47):
and it's just great to see our local boys, right,
our local actors and actresses doing so well. He's also
I believe he said that he's going to be in
one of the Walking Dead Dead City, Uh right, exactly.
It was one of the last things that filmed most
(29:10):
robustly here. So yeah, that's going to be exciting to
see what he continues to do. And we're gonna be
talking with him next week.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Right, Yeah, So next week catch our episode with Shasha
Shahja hon Kon. We you know, we've been talking over
the past several weeks until we're really looking forward to
this interview that we're going to have for the next
week episode. But as we said, his IMDb is very
impressive and only growing, So tune in next week for
(29:37):
that episode for that interview where he'll come in and
sit down and talk talk with us. Great, well, we'll
check out Deli Boys again streaming on Hulu at the moment.
Speak about stuff that that is on streaming services. But
you know, more and more days, more and more these days,
I've been wanting for physical copies, hard copies, DVDs and
(29:57):
all that stuff because the streaming wars I'm going on
in tangents. But movies are great, it doesn't matter how
you take them. In. But it depends when you take
them in. Because many movies, when we watched them as
a child, we probably maybe not caught everything that was
in the movie. Maybe things went over our ahead. We
(30:18):
didn't have certain life experiences that didn't really resonate with us,
so moments didn't impact us as much as they might
do now. Yeah, a lot of movies that are like
that for me. And so I saw this thread on
Reddit kind of talking about you know movie. There's a
quote movies don't change, but you do. So I like that. Yeah.
(30:39):
So I think it was Roger Ebert who said that.
But yeah, that's really true because there's so many movies
nowadays where I rewatch it and I'm like, oh wow,
I didn't see it from I saw it from one
character's perspective. Because I was around that same age. I
could see myself, you know, fit that role. But when
you grow up and gain some life experience, you view
the movie or the you know, the scenarios that unfold
(31:03):
through someone else's perspective, someone else's.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You're like, what the heck, They're like, oh my god,
a minute.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, and so I can I can kick it off
for it. Yeah. So the first one that popped up
in my head was a Goofy movie where Goofy he
has a teenage son, Max. He's somewhat little rebellious, kind
of a guy, you know, a good kid overall, but
kind of like can't help but get in trouble every
now and then. And his he pulls this prank, you know,
(31:32):
reenacting a dance and song sequence at his like I
think it's the last day of school, so he wants
to go out with a bang impress this girl that
he that he really likes, Roxanne I believe her name was,
and and you know, he gets in trouble the principal
after an awesome performance. By the way, it's an awesome
he still slaps the whole movie. There's so many great
songs in a Goofy movie that still slap. But yeah,
(31:54):
that was a great performance. But the principal gets him.
He's in trouble. The principal calls Goofy and says, hey,
you know, Max is going down the wrong path. If
you're not careful, he could end up in the electric chair. Again.
The funny thing is like, again, as a kid, you
think about like, oh my god, this is funny, Like
they just reference the electric chair in a Disney movie,
and Goofy is like, gor, what do you say? And
(32:19):
so as a kid, you kind of you know, Max
wants to go to this this high school party with
his friends to watch the power Line perform, and and
Goofy wants to like make wants to be there for Max,
wants to take him out on an adventure, kind of
strain him up, wants to build more memories because he
(32:40):
can feel Max drifting further and further away from him.
And so as a kid, I'm like, I'm on Max's side.
I'm like, let Maxy hang out with his friends. Like
he really likes that girl, she's really cute. He has
great friends, and you have a good time. Why are
you dragging Max across country on this on this wild
you know, oh trip that he's not having a good
(33:02):
time with. Why why would you do this? Goofy? And
then you grow up. I grow up and a little maturity.
Uh you know, I'm not I'm not saying I'm fully mature,
but you know that that bar right rises a little bit.
And then I know, having a daughter of my own,
and then you see that you see it from the
perspective and and it culminates in a moment near the
(33:22):
end of the movie where Max is like, I'm just
trying to live my life like and Goofy goes, I know,
I'm just trying to be a part of it. And
I'm like, oh, like, so you feel so bad for Goofy,
Like this is his son, he loves him so much,
and he feels like there's this this divide that's growing
between them, and he wants to do something that you know,
(33:42):
him and his father and probably had done in the
before to build their relationship, to make sure, you know,
that bond is solidified. And and then Max you know,
does see at the very end, and then they end
up a power line concert many another another kick ass
performance to in the movie. I too too ah ah
do aha again. I've been telling you my wife, like,
(34:03):
we need to watch that. You need to watch this movie. Yeah,
make you cry. It's a great movie with the great songs,
and so a Goofy movie is one that I definitely have.
I see differently specifically from Goofy's point of view for
it growing up.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, God, I love that music. Yeah, it's great. It's
a really good movie. Yeah. On the same vein, Yes,
same sort of For me, it was The Little Mermaid.
Ah right, It's like girl, okay, right, because you're watching
it as a kid. She just wants true love and
she wants to you know, and her dad's so mean
(34:39):
and all of this stuff, and then you watch it
as an adult, it's like, girl, you are sixteen, you
are sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
You don't know this guy.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You don't know this guy. He's a complete stranger. He
lives on the land like humans are violent, and so
you give up your soul, you give up like your voice,
and then you sign a car on track to sign
over your freaking soul to go hang out with this dude.
And you can't even talk and he's hitting on you
(35:08):
and it's just weird and awkward, and just listen to
your dad. Just listen to your dad. Like it all
worked out because it's a Disney movie. But grow you're sixteen,
Go home, Yeah, go home.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, Ariel, we love you, but you're only sixteen. Yeah
you're a kid. Yeah, you don't love this guy. You
love this guy. One movie, that one movie that many
people were bringing up also in this right at the
read was Office Space, which I do love that movie.
It's a classic it's a it's an instant classic. So
I do agree that's a great movie in it of itself. I, however,
(35:40):
have never worked in an office. I have worked at
a restaurant. So the movie Waiting starring Ryan Reynolds, a
younger Ryan Reynolds, where the movie takes place in a
restaurant and you have like all these the wade staff,
the bus boys, the managers. As a who's worked in
(36:00):
the restaurant industry, you I know all those characters in
real life. Yea, I know all those people in real life, like, Oh,
that's so and so, that's so, and so, that's so
and so. I know that a lot of people remember
Waiting for having like the really gross moments where you
have people like spitting in food or like really being
really really nasty and bad with food. I never experienced that,
(36:22):
and I know many other you know, friends who've worked
in other restaurants that they've never experienced that because it
doesn't really it does happen, but not as often as
you think it would, because again, people get caught all
the time. But fortunately, no one I know who's worked
at restaurants have repeated those stories or I've never seen
that or witness that at my restaurant that I worked at. However,
you know, like the characters again, like the wait staff,
(36:47):
like you know, like the cool guy or you know,
like the the airhead kind of person, or the manager
who's been there forever who should be leaving but refuses
to leave. But more so, what's even funnier is the customers.
The customers that come in during that movie, Like they're
very they can be very annoying and like oh, this
(37:08):
didn't come with this, or this didn't come with this,
or just being mean for no reason, and like I've
served that person before. Oh, I've served that person before.
And so that movie that like watching it. I watched
that movie before I started working as a waiter in
the restaurant. After working through that, you know, some years
after that, watching it again, like oh my god, that's
so real. It's so realistic. So Waiting is one movie
(37:32):
that that changed before and after working at a restaurant
for me.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Okay, yeah, well for me, I have a TV show.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, a TV show.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You ever watched Animaniacs? Yeah, yeah, they're all a little
yeah yack o Waco and dot. Yeah, there are jokes
in there that were purely for the adults that went
you know, completely over my head back in the day,
and you know, and you go back, you're like, how
(38:00):
did they allow this? Like how did they get away
with this? Like there was some joke about prince and
it's like oh, finger fingering Prince or something like that,
and you know, and just all the like hello nurse,
and there's just a bunch of other ones that were
just really like on a bird kids don't notice, and
(38:21):
it's like, oh my god, who let them put this
in a kid's show? I wasn't that Steven Steelberg. Yeah,
so yeah that looking back and watching Animaniacs, it's it's like, wow, yeah,
I appreciate it. As an adult, Well I'm like, whoa,
I did not get this at all.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
And you know, like the parents are like, you know,
they're watching like you're sitting on the floor and they're
on the couch behind you watching the same thing as
you're watching it, and these things are going over your head.
You know, in hindsight, they're like looking at each other
like right, right, hopefully you didn't get that joke. Yeah,
so yeah, no, that that's a good one. There's a
lot of like a like cartoons that in hindsight. They
hit a lot of sexual innuendo jokes or you know,
(39:05):
kind of riskue.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yo to Like the nineties, they get a lot of.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Wait, wild time, speak of a wild time, Robbie Williams
saying missus doubtfire. This is an infamous movie for people
going back and reflecting on because as a kid and
you're like, you love Robin Williams. He's the fun dad.
He's like bringing animals to a party. There's music, it's
a block party. Everybody's having a great time. And then
wet blanket mom comes back and she's like what is
(39:33):
going on?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Everybody out, get out?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
What are you doing? And like, oh my god, Like
it starts like again as a kid, and you're like, god,
like this mom sucks. He's like he doesn't want to
have any fun. She's divorcing this guy. Like why he's
Robbie Williams. We love Robert Williams. She's taking away the
kids from him. Oh my god, And you can't believe
what's going on. And then you know you understand, like,
(39:55):
oh he wants to see his kids. Of course, what
who who wouldn't dress up as a woman as a
as a sixty seventy year old woman and infiltrate their
house again after being kicked out and spending time with
his kids and and and and his wife and and
and her new boyfriend who wouldn't do that. And then
you grow up and you're like, oh my god, Robin
(40:16):
Williams should be in prison, arrested. Imagine if you were married,
you divorced your husband because he was irresponsible, not reliable.
He was he didn't care about your feelings or your
your concerns or thoughts, and and lost his job and
(40:36):
and was just unbudable himself, and then you divorce him.
He's you know what, enough's enough. And then you try
to move on with your life and you need a
nanny and somebody comes in. You're like, oh, this person's perfect.
And then they're gonna be at the house all the time.
I'm gonna talk to them, I'm gonna confide in them.
They're gonna be with the children, and it's gonna be
great and all this stuff. And then you find out
(40:57):
it's your ex the whole time, the whole time.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It is everything that he did. Time. Yeah, like I
don't remember how it ends. Like if there's a happy ending,
or something, but he should not she should not have
gotten a happy ending.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Is all. So basically he saves Pierce Broston's life at
the dinner after he after he sabotages his food with
a bunch of spices and peppers and he chokes, almost chokes,
and then like he leaps through the through the restaurant,
over over tables and stuff, and help is on the way,
and he gives him the heimleg and then rips off
his own mask like oh, it's him the whole time,
(41:35):
the whole time. And then at the end they go
to court and he's like, you're on or clearly I
love my kids so much and I was forced to
do this, and you know, he has some visitation and whatnot,
and it's kind of like, okay, but yeah, he should
have been yeah, at the very least community service, at
the very least restraining order, but for sure person time.
So miss dell.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Fire, I agree. And I think another movie that is
on that vein. I see it's also on your list.
Who should also one be in prison? Yeh is the
jolly old man from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
From the Jurassic Park. Yeah, this funny thing is I'll
and I'll repeat this verbatim because there's a funny comment
on Reddit. But yeah, someone said Jurassic Park as a
kid man, fun adventure movies with dinosaurs as a teenager
whoa genetic testing and chaos theory as an adult. This
is all about trying to get insurance approved for a
zoo that just killed an animal handler, and other impacts
(42:28):
of mistreating underpaying staff. Like yeah, ned, who who is
the it guy who says everything into motion like knocking
down Jurassic Park. Yeah, he's a bad guy who led
to direct deaths. That's not forgivable. That being said, I
understand him wanting to like steal Dino DNA and go
(42:49):
to another company that would be paying him something that
that Hammond should have been paying him you know already.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, absolutely, because he's expense except for the it guy.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
He was keeping your park running.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Who's the lynch pin of everything? And every single thing
is controlled from your one like Windows ninety five computer, Yeah,
like operating system one guy, one computer, and you're not
You didn't spare expense on that guy. No, and he's
disgruntled and he runs away with everything. Yeah, and not
only that, but you decide to bring your grandchildren to
(43:25):
the unproven, untested zoo to be the guinea pigs. They're
the ones that are testing it out.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, you need a hurricane again, the ego, I could,
I cannot, I won't fall some for the hurricane. You know,
nature happens. I life will find a way. No, no, yeah,
I attribute that to ego and yeah, and and his
like his belief that he's God, he can do anything
(43:53):
and then the things will go okay. So I think
he legitimately thought it would be safe. And honestly, if
it wasn't for the hurricane and for him and for
Ned's actions, then things would have gone okay. I think
maybe it would have been interrupted by the hurricane. But
you know, dinosaurs may not have escaped. I get that.
That being said, the point that some people were also
making is that the lawyer as a kid, You're like,
(44:15):
the lawyer is the bad guy. You know, he's a
real jerk, and he hates the park, and you know,
he's a wet blanket, just like misdoubtfire in the mom Yeah,
but this guy, he sees the whole park as a
huge insurance liability, like this is very dangerous, is very dangerous,
And yeah, I get it. He ditched the kids in
(44:36):
the car when the t Rex came out. But how
would any of us react if we saw a twenty
five thirty foot tall prehistoric monster run by our car.
I'm not saying that I would run away. I want
to say I would have run away. I'm just saying
we don't know how we would react in that moments,
because it's terrifying that being said he's just doing his job.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Is a huge, huge, huge problem that place from the beginning.
So yeah, you see that as an adult, but as
a kid, you're just like, what it's so cool? Oh
my god, Yeah, like the park ride and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
The one lasting about Hammond, like Hammond continues. Not only
is the underpaying ned but Nedrie, but he's also like
insulting him because at one point he's like, our lives
are in your hands and you have butt of fingers,
like give him a break, and he's like, hey, where's
ned It's like, oh, check the vending machine. It's like
he's tired if you're crap, He's tired of it. So yeah, yeah,
(45:38):
did he was? He responsible for a lot of lives lost?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Could that have been avoided by paying him? What he's worth.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Also, yes, yes, So in conclusion, pay actors right.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Pay act circle. Well, what a great episode episode. Let
us know, have you really quick what is your movie
that that you rewatched recently or after a long time
and then realized, oh my god, I either missed that
point or I'm viewing it as a from a different angle,
a different perspective in my life or a different character.
(46:12):
What movie is that for you? Also, Daredevil, have you
watched the first two episodes? What are your thoughts? Are
you down for the rebirth? The re is it reboots
kind of kind of a soft reboot, well, a reboot
to the face.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yes, that that it's a reboot to the face. Yeah, yeah,
but it's a different part of his life, different characters. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
All right, Well, let's know also about your thoughts on
artificial intelligence? Is AI going too far dubbing Spanish to
English and English to Spanish and this kind of like
just I don't know, this is sort of Frankenstein. This
is this is Frankenstein. This frank science Monster right here,
I'll see. But you know what's not frank science Monster
The Revenge of the Sith musical version, and that AI
(47:01):
was able to create because that's looping in my head.
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