"Deli Boys" & "Aftermath" Actor Shahjehan Khan Interview

On this week's episode: Shahjehan Khan is a local actor, voice over artist, podcast and musician. He stops by The Hub on Hollywood to talk about his projects, including Hulu's "Deli Boys," Netflix's "Aftermath," Max's "Succession," and more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Hub on Hollywood and iHeartRadio podcast. I'm
your host James Rojas. Our other co host, Jamie Blanco
is on assignment, but she will be back next week.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
But this week's episode.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
We did the pleasure of being joined by a local
actor who is appearing in TV shows, movies, video games
like what aren't you appearing in? My co host today
is a shah Jahan Khan. Thank you so much for
being here.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Thanks for having me James.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
So, yeah, like I said, you are like, what do
they call it a renaissance man?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Is that? Yeah? I guess that's accurate. Yeah, because I'll
take the compliment.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, no, thank you so much for being here, because
you are no stranger to WBZ or the iHeart Radio family.
Because we were introduced by our friend Matt Shearer, who
couldn't be here today, but I saw the video he did,
and this is how I first was introduced to you.
I'm sure a lot of people who haven't seen your
shows or movies, but they've seen your face on a

(01:09):
video game Immortal Kombat.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, what what's that about? I mean, yeah, I mean
he's so Matt. It's funny because so Matt and I
actually grew up in the same town and we went
to the same high school. He's a few years younger
than me, so he was kind of he was my
friend's brother's friend, so like, you know, we weren't like
close or anything growing up. But then my friend was
having his fortieth birthday and Matt happened to be there.

(01:32):
And then basically a few years before that, I had
been approached by w B Games to be the face
of a video game character. I didn't know which one
until I signed a couple of contracts. Matt's video kind
of we talk about it in sort of a funny way below, Yeah, yeah,
and then I ended up as the face of like
one of the major characters in the new MK one.

(01:55):
And then it just so happened that it was my
friend Eric Eric's fortieth birthday in Matt happened to be there,
and I told him about this, and he was like, dude,
what are you doing tomorrow? Do you want to like
make a video about this? I was like, hell, yeah, man,
let's do it. So that's kind of how that happened.
And then look, that was probably the most viral video
I've ever been a part of so far, you know,

(02:16):
so Yeah, that's awesome, pretty crazy, it's pretty crazy still.
You know, I don't play the game because I'm not
I used to play Mortal Kombat. I just the new
I just haven't capt up with video games.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, like the first version where it's the side of you,
I mean that guess they're all still the side of you,
but like the pixels, the pixelated version of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that's usually what people want to know, Like, so
do you like play? And sometimes I jokingly I'll be like, yeah,
I play every day, you know, I play it myself,
and you know, but no, truthfully.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, well, well speaking of just worlds colliding, as we mentioned,
you know, Matt, you also met Jamie at the watch
party briefly because it was so popular or so busy,
rather because of the premiere of Deli Boys. Yes, again, so,
and I don't want to I don't want to skip
any and we won't skip any of your of your stuff.
But you know, folks, they if they're not familiar with
their face from Mortal Kombat, they probably recognize you from

(03:04):
Succession from After the Aftermath Aftermath on Netflix, which if
I remember correctly, was like the number one movie was
on Netflix, the number.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
One movie in the US, UK, Australia, a few other
places for a week and also number three in the world.
And it's about the Tobin Bridge. Yeah that's great.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, like so like again, so much to dissect in
this episode, but we'll go back to that that watch
party because it was featured in our last episode of
The Hub on Hollywood, just showing how packed it was
for Deli boys. And I'll be honest, I didn't hear
much about it. I'm not sure about the advertisement. I
don't have Hulu. I mean I have Hulu now because
my wife. There's Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Sure. Yeah, this I think it's it's interesting because their
marketing has been pretty nuts and insane and incredible, and
but it's I think there's just so much stuff out
there that you know, you always you do stuff and
you hope that it will make an impact. But I mean,
so far, so good. You know, it's a certified fresh
it is of yesterday or the day before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, so this party was there you had the first
four episodes.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's right. So there's a local, wonderful local organization called
sub Continental Drift. It's sort of it's a space for that,
you know, anybody can go and anybody can perform, but
it's primarily kind of like Foster's performance and especially like
first time artists and stuff in the South Asian community
in the in the Boston area. So it's a place

(04:28):
that I've been going to for the more than ten years.
They've been very supportive to me as an artist. So
when Deli Boys was coming out, I had this. I
always had this idea. I knew we'd be doing like
the big fancy premieres in LA and Sundance in New York,
which we did, But I always wanted to do a
hometown you know, because part of for me, like being
in this career now and also having done music before,

(04:50):
like I've there's something about like when people are I
was like, oh, so you're gonna move to Hollywood. I'm like, no, man,
I'm from Boston. I'm staying here, and like my family's here,
my friends are here, and like I'm also just kind
of like a regular person. So I just wanted to
do a hometown party. So Subcontinental Drift. Subdrift has been
looking for a new space for their open mic and
one of the places they've been piloting are testing out

(05:12):
is Zoo Mix in East Boston, which is another one
of my favorite places. So they were like, maybe we
could do it there, and Zoom Mix very graciously offered
to like have us there for free. And then my
mom and my sister step stepped into like my sister
Nour Jahan and Mariam and Tina my mom, they're like
expert party planners, so we didn't have to worry about it.

(05:32):
They bought match So my in the show Deli Boys,
my character is sort of notorious for wearing a red
velvet track suit, so they bought matching tracksuits. So they
made like confetti with my face on it, you know,
and like.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Your face was on the wall, literally multiple faces on
the wall.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So it was it was the sweetest, Like that's what
it's all about, man, Like when you can share. Look,
I'm forty one. I've been producing art and performing since
i was like seven years old, so it's just like
having come this far and still being in it and
still like being able to do it in new ways,
you know, is like immensely rewarding. So that was out
of all of them, like they were all great. All

(06:09):
the premieres were great for different reasons obviously, like but
like the hometown one. There's just something special about that.
And we had like a ton of snacks, which I
still have a bunch of leftovers that are sitting in
the truck of by car. Excellent.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
We'll talk after this for about the snacks. But for
for our listeners or viewers who haven't seen Delli Boys,
what is it about?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So Deli Boys is uh so, they invented a word
to describe it, crimey, so crime comedy. So it is
a Deli Boys is essentially a story about a Pakistani
American crime family and it's like a comedy kind of
in the style of Sopranos. It's about these two sort
of like hapless idiot brothers who are born into money

(06:47):
and you know, were kind of spoiled and stuff. Their
dad are played by the their dad like well, look,
I could name all the actors are all unbelievable. They're
all so good and they're like literally dreams of mine
to you work with. And so like dad dies in
a freak golf accident and then the sons inherit. What
they think is so Delhi like Deli like you know,
Bodego whatever, like, so they think they're inheriting this whole

(07:09):
chain of delis around the country turns out to be
a front for cocaine trafficking, and that's where the dark
side of the family. So the family Latin name is
dar last name, and so there's Dark Dark the company's Darko,
and then the kids are introduced to Dark Darko where
there's a you know, a bunch of like mob bosses,
our gang of the four of us that are called Moliks.
So yeah, it's this wild, zany, like ten episode series

(07:35):
and it's like changed my life, man, and so and there.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I watched a lot of shows, I watch a lot
of movies. And I'm being completely honest here, I don't
remember the last time I was I'm literally laughing every
one or two minutes because something one of the brothers says.
A situation they find themselves in the physical comedy is hilarious.
The writing is really good. Yeah, the writing is really good.

(08:02):
And and are all the actors? Are you Pakistani?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
So yeah, my family's from Pakistan. I was born here.
My parents came over in the seventies. So it's it's
a majority of South Asian cast not just Pakistani, Pakistani's Indians,
you know, from folks from all over the subcontinent. You know,
there's a bunch of different writers and directors and like
from all across the spectrum. But I think it's like

(08:27):
for a South Asian show, it's it's the kind of
show that like it's cool in spite of all of that,
you know, it's I think we're at a time in
the year twenty twenty five where, you know, there's been
so many there's been year long discussions about representation and
things in Hollywood and stuff, and you know, there's been
a we're kind of at that point where like we

(08:48):
can just like make our own stuff and it can
just be cool and like we and the joke that
I keep making is like or that everybody has been
making is you know, we can be drug dealers too,
you know, like we don't and everything doesn't have to
necessary be focused so much on identity, though that stuff
is very important, you know, like in the in the
case of Deli Boys, it's just kind of like an
incidental thing, uh, And it's just still like a cool show,

(09:11):
which is why I think it. But I think it's
like all of those all of those things like play
off of each other, and I think maybe that's what's
so appealing to people about it other than the incredible writing,
the incredible cast. I mean, how many like insane guest
stars can you have in like one show. It's like unbelievable. Yeah,
and like you said, it's good, and I mean, look,
the creator of the show of the lass said is
actually my oldest friend in the world. Our grandfathers knew

(09:34):
each other at Pakistan Wow. And I so I've been
like watching him do different and he's sort of famous
for working Advice for a long time, for starting one
of their most popular shows, and then was one of
the first people to leave and do his own thing.
And so he's and he's he was always like that
cool friend that was always like definitely cooler than you,
telling you about the cool music and like, and also

(09:56):
just like encouraging you to be like the best version
of yourself. So so yeah, he actually talks about like
he wrote it and I'm not trying to put words
in his mouth, but he wrote the script as to
get a staff writing job, and then Jenny Conner basically
was like, no, we should try to get this thing made.
And then just kind of the and you know, I'm
sure you're familiar with like the journey of actually writing

(10:17):
something and then trying to get it, trying to sell it.
Everybody says no, and then eventually somebody picks up a pilot.
Then you make a pilot, and then the writer strike happens,
and then like everything goes on hold for it. So
it's been like five almost five maybe more years in
the making this whole thing, so to actually see it
come to fruition and then to get to be a
part of it, you know, like, look, I had to audition.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just I was gonna ask you. So I was gonna
asking you, I what did that look like? Because I
was imagining whether that character Ali was written with you
in mind, or did you have to go up against
many other good, great actors.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I absolutely. I mean, look, the show was filmed in Chicago,
and I luckily, like I have a great manager now
who pitched me. So one thing that a lot of
local actors in Boston and other elsewhere are familiar with
is now post COVID, A lot of auditions are self tapes,
so you tape them at home for better or for worse.
Better for worse. I think it's great. I hate auditions, so,
like I mean, and then you might get a live

(11:11):
zoom call back, or then you might have to actually
fly and go somewhere to do like a table a
screen test or a chemistry reader that kind of thing.
But like the initial auditions now are mostly you know,
self tapes, So I, you know, was we pretended that
I was a Chicago local and luckily because of my
also my former career as a punk rocker, I know
people all over the country and a lot in here, Canada, Europe,

(11:34):
lots of places I've always got a coucheck and crash on. Yeah,
so I spent you know, so I basically like I
was hitting up some friends to be like, hey, like
I'm auditioning for the show, you know. But yeah, so,
I mean I went through three four rounds of auditions,
you know, just like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
And yeah, and you mentioned it during the watch party.
Is that your character and and some other characters they
were only written for maybe two episodes at the most.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, what I've heard it so essentially like are sort
of gang which which is if if folks haven't seen
the show, but if you've seen something like Sopranos, if
you think of like Uncle Pauli or Chris Maltasanti, that
sort of like gang. That's kind of like what I
compare us to. The four of us are called Malik's
so Malik is sort of a word for like Coppo
in the in the Mob thing. So originally, like I

(12:20):
think we were just they had just planned for the
four of us to kind of like come in for
a little bit and then leave. But and I had
actually booked a play. So my plan, My plan was
to finish Deli Boys and then go on tour with
a my first like national theater tour for three months.
And then we kept getting word that they liked the
four of us together, and so they kept writing us

(12:41):
into more and more episodes. And now it's like, yeah,
I just actually got all my footage yesterday. So I've
been like, you know, the nerd stuff. And when you
like first start acting, you're like, oh, man, one day,
like I'm gonna just I hope I get to have
like a cool reel or something, you know that I
can just I can be like one of those people
that like has some little scenes here and there, you know,
and like mine was. And I've just been so fortunate

(13:04):
in the last two I've been at the acting thing
professionally enough, right, i'd say twelve years, ten twelve and
just in the last two years it's really been a
meteoric kind of a thing. And you never know, you
know in this, you know, if this is it? Dude,
I did everything I wanted to do, so it's like.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
You know, I can't imagine this being it. I don't
want I don't want to jinx anything. I don't want
to jinx anything. But again, the not only are you
fantastic in it, the again, the writing it's just so,
it's so good, it's so snappy.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah. Again.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
So if you haven't seen Deli Boys on Hulu, get
to watching it right now and we can talk more
about this in great length. But I'm curious. You know,
you said you grew up in Boston, in the Boston area.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I grew up in a town called Boxborough with Okay, Boxborough.
Act in Boxborough.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So like, when did the acting he said, you know,
you had a career another life in music as a postal.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You still didn't play a lot of music. Yeah, where
did the acting bug part come from? I mean I
was I think it came from making fun of my
aunts and uncles and people in the Pakistani community, like
at home, and at parties. So like I always had
like the performer gene thing in me. You know, my
dad used to have like slide shows at home like
he has. Like my dad used to work for Kodak.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I love I love your family even more because I'm
a big film guy.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I love love film. I love thinking photography. So my
dad has probably fifty thousand slides. That's amazing. Yah. So
he One thing we would do as a family all
the time is you know, we'd get out of his
projector we would watch the slides like on the on
the wall or that's screen thing, and I would just
get up and like start making fun. And like anytime
we were with like at the in the Pakistani community

(14:35):
or like we're with my family or something like, people
are like, oh, come on, like put on a show.
So I and so from a young age, I was
doing that. I got into plays from that. I definitely.
I think my first audition in junior high at R. J.
Gray High School with uh Linda Potter. I still remember
it was for a show called on Broadway. It was

(14:56):
a musical. I booked the lead role. And I remember
my tells this story, you know, and all parents like
want their kid to be special. Yeah. She was like,
you know, she always said, like this kid's got something,
you know. So and I think, like I definitely I
wanted to perform, you know, because I like needed attention
or whatever. Yeah, whatever the hell we want same here.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I used to I did improv at theater in high school,
and you know, I was I felt like I was
always kind of like a social butterfly, but I felt
like the most natural on a stage in front of
people performing. I would get the butterflies beforehand, but as
soon as my feet hit the stage, absolutely like calm
and just feeling like I'm at home.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, And so honestly, might I have to my parents
to thank for that, particularly my mom, you know, who
was the one that would drive me to piano lessons,
or my dad who got me into music specifically and
just always cultivated like the love of music and art.
So you know, I'm totally like indebted to them.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
You mentioned the you know, people asking you are going
to go to Los Angeles. I'm originally from son of California, Okay,
and so like maybe forty minutes east of downtown LA.
And so when I thought moving to Boston, like I
when it was suggested moving to Boston. I thought, and
to the warm, the food, the family and all that stuff, Like, wow,
well would I do that? You know, six years later,

(16:12):
I'm married and have a baby here, So I not.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Look like every place has it's you know, like it's
about making a community and you can do that forever,
you know, And I'm look, I have tons of friends.
I was just in LA for a big red carpet there,
you know, if I had to move or something, I
have a community already there, like, and I can get
a taco anytime I want, you know what I mean,
or like any food. Ever, so there's there's pros and cons.
I think for me, I think I was mentioning earlier,

(16:35):
like at least you know, for the time being, Like,
I think it's important that like this stuff that I
do is very special to me, and I don't want
it to become like what's the word I'm looking for,
like regular, you know, Like so I don't know if that.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Makes it, No, it does. And but thing is my
Jamie and I we talked. We call Boston Hollywood East
because you know, for the past you know, several years,
they're all coming here. I have a friend who works
behind the scene. He's a grip and he works, and
he's worked. He's worked on the movie, like the show Yellowstone,
a bunch of big stuff. And he says, like they're
drying up in Los Angeles and they're all going to

(17:14):
the markets.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah. Man, I shot a great indie sci fi last
year in Denver called Giant Void, and they're trying to
do a similar thing that we did out here with
our tax incentive structures. So it's a it's actually a
really great time I think to be uh an actor
or this in this industry in other places than you
you know, would traditionally think obviously like it's not maybe

(17:38):
as big of a market as New York or LA
or now Atlanta or whatever, but like there's there's a
lot of stuff happening. It's growing too. After Math I
did that movie here, I did that same year I
did this, I did a lifetime movie like a murder mystery,
you know, like just a feel good kind of that
kind of thing. Yeah, and those were the two biggest
things in my career. That then got me a manager,
and then two months later I was on succession. So

(17:58):
you know, it's definitely putting out here.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, Yeah, when we tell people too, and we again
we like to highlight and showcase and put a spotlight
on local talent because you know, they are appearing in
big movies, big productions, big shows, even even commercials and whatnot,
because you know, the jobs are here Boston, New England.
They are attracting that.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
That money I did I will be the New Walking
Dead was shot out here, so I'll be on an
episode of that.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I was gonna ask we talking about that or I
or I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, I won't go into specific yeah, yeah, but yeah,
so there's that. I also did another show, an Apple
series which I probably shouldn't mention yet, which I have
a very small part in. But so yeah, you know, yeah,
lots of stuff happening.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
So a lot of stuff happening, and so and again
I do want to touch back on Deli Boys because
I'm fixated on it right now. But as we mentioned
after Math, the film on Netflix, and it was it
was filmed on the Tobin Bridge or was it based on.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, so they definitely shot they did a cool job
of filming exteriors kind of, but they built a replica
of a good chunk of it in an airplane hangar
in Weymouth. So that was like you walk in and
it was like life slid, Like I drive on the tobin. Yeah,
like pretty much most days in a week.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So did they did they get the grittiness for those
for those who are not aware with the toe to
they got No, I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
They got every little dent ever, Like you literally like
there's a part that you can drive across right now
and I can put myself back into. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
So what was that like, because like that's not only
are you in this, you know, this big Netflix film,
but you know it's based on something that you you personally,
you know, you drive through or your your ear. You
can't have that connection.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
At the time, it was not a I don't it
was not a Netflix film yet. It was just this
sort of like kind of mysterious, big budget but still
indie film that was a really big deal here in Boston.
So we shot this in twenty twenty one, I believe
twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. I think twenty
twenty one, or.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You're wearing masks during that year. Yeah, so maybe it's
in the midst.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Of COVID, you know, And it was like it was
already kind of a dystopian thing, you know, and and
it was so it was my first role. Uh, it
was my first role that I a film that I
booked where I had lines to say. So just a
few months before that, I had been a featured extra
in the film Don't Look Up, which was the you know,
the the big Leo Jennifer exactly. Yeah, and I got

(20:23):
to be like, I didn't say anything, but I stood.
I was in a scene with every big actor in
the Yeah, it's a it's a you can see me
for one second in the movie. But it was like
one of the coolest times of my life. And it
was one of those like reassuring like hey, like because
you always wonder like if I ever get to do
something like that, like how badly will I mess it up?
But but yeah, so that had just happened and that
kind of like re I had also left my my

(20:45):
full time job just after that because I felt like
I just wanted to do creative stuff more. I actually
have a master's in community psychology from your Mess, lol.
So I was working in behavioral health research and stuff
and I just wasn't I just didn't feel creatively fulfilled.
I felt a little stifled. So that summer and I
had been looking. I had been auditioning for films in
Boston for years, for almost eight to ten years at them. Yeah,

(21:10):
I think if if you think maybe six seven, eight
years I had really I just never booked anything. I
would book you know, corporate videos or like jokingly, like
diversity training videos, or I'd play like the Muslim character
in the background. Yeah, yeah, I just you know whatever,
And you know, I just wasn't ready. And then this
movie comes along. I had a couple of different auditions
for it actually, to play like a couple of the

(21:32):
the the like hostage taker folks. And then like this
other one comes along and my agent at the time
sent it. He's like, hey, there's this other character named Ozzy.
It's you know, just give it a shot. And so
I did, and just just like anything else, you know,
eventually you get used to just putting stuff out and

(21:52):
not thinking about it because you know, it's a numbers
game really, And then I book it and I get
there and the director comes and meets me right away.
He's like, Hey, this is just you know, this is
like one of my favorite characters in the movie. I
got the script I was like, oh, I'm liking some
scenes here, you know, because I just had never and
then it was off, you know, it was day one.
I got a gun, I got a trailer, I got

(22:15):
a stunt double, you know, a stand in, you know.
And I'd only ever been on background sets, so I
wasn't used to any of this stuff, and I was
absolutely terrified. But like it ended up being an awesome time.
And still after that, like the movie kind of went away.
We didn't know if it was ever going to come out,

(22:36):
and then you know, and I stayed really good friends
with the Patrick director, with us, with the Patrick, with
the director Patrick Lee Patrick. Yeah. I mean, honestly, if
you look up Patrick Lucier on IMDb, you will see
the kind of work this guy has done. And also
the writer of the film, Nathan Grand Nathan Graham Davis,
who is in Massachusetts native. He actually lives out in
western mass I was just talking to him today, So

(22:57):
like it's just one thing after another kind of you
know what I mean, Can.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
You take me to one thing? You said, Can you
take me to that moment where you are walked up
to your trailer, You go in the trailer and you
have a moment by yourself, like what is what's in
your head?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Absolutely, So the funny thing is because I had never
had that before. I just went to the back the
regular where I would go, like to the background, holding
and I found my buddy, now Joseph Cardozo, who was playing,
and he was wearing the same thing I was wearing.
So I was like, oh, or no, so he was
wearing what I knew I was gonna be wearing, so

(23:34):
he was like And I just started sitting there and
like and then someone came out and I went up
to the to the place to sign it and they're like,
I'm sorry, what's your name. I'm like, oh, shot, and
they're like, oh no, you need to come with us,
And so I was like, oh shit, okay, I don't know.
You're good, You're good. Yeah, okay, So yeah, dude, I
mean going back there, I mean yeah, it's still and honestly,
like that feeling has not left me still because like,

(23:54):
and again another reason I think is because I maybe
because I make an effort to like make sure that
I know how lucky I am to do this and
that it's not just like you don't take this stuff
for granted and you know, like just like I'm used
to look from my days of punk rock, like I've
slept on disgusting like pea stained couches and stuff and
people's floors, and so for me, like I'm just there

(24:16):
to like do the work and stuff. And but yeah,
it's like it's a total magical experience man. And same
thing like, yeah, when you first get to when the
elevator door opened. I remember after I had booked Succession
and I got there and they're all just standing there
and I'm just like, oh my god, this is like real.
But then you just you know, you like, the more
you do it, you realize that you know, these are

(24:37):
people and they make and I mean my favorite part
actually is when people mess up. You know when like
people that you know are like good actors or whatever
that and you're just like, oh, yeah, like we're all
just like doing this. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's like that's one thing I had to convince or
remind myself when I first started reporting, when I would
do like live hits, so there's no second chances when
you do a live shot or a live hit, and
so when when you when my first time reporting and
out out flub or mess up you think, oh, man,
like I'm a failure. You have the imposter syndrome kind
of thing going on. And then when you're recording the report,
so it'd be sent in and played later like on repeat,

(25:15):
like it's taking me like five ten because twenty takes
seemingly to get this thing right. And then you know,
at one point, I don't know what it was, but
like it clicked in my head of like look at
all the big actors Robert de Niro, yeah, Leo DiCaprio,
you know, Meryl Streep, they all have bloopers, Like they
all have like lines where it may have taken somebody

(25:35):
twenty thirty takes to get a shot. And so like,
you know what, like we're all we're all human, as
you said, and so it's okay to take multiple takes
to have a mess up. It doesn't reflect on you
as a person absolutely confiding myself, confiding in you.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, but no, ok, thank you king to make it no,
thank you? No, but no.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I think that's that's great. And is there anything
that surprised you? Maybe that was the most surprising thing
for you, But the thing that most surprised you about
this industry, whether it's going through the audition process, whether
it's on the on the set filming, or even after,
Like what part of this industry that you can think
of kind of like, oh, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
That there's like a lot of good people man like
I think you hear, and I've also been very fortunate,
I think too. I don't have too many like bad experiences,
but there's I don't know, it's just like there's a
lot of like good, decent, hardworking people that can you know,
are just like inspiring just in all aspects of product.

(26:44):
Like I think that part, that part is always surprised,
not surprising, but it's always something that uh that when
when you it's something that you're like grateful for if
that makes sense. Yeah, And also just like it's just
so much fun man like, it's it really is like
I can't think of anything like more fun, you know,

(27:05):
even even like I think I saw when I was
uh one of the panels for Deli Boys, one of
the two lead actors soccer. He was saying that, you
know what other job is there where people are like, oh, man,
I didn't get to come in on you know, I
wish I could have come in on Fridays, you know
what I mean. And that's kind of like at the
end of Deli Boys, Like we all had that experience

(27:27):
of just like not wanting to leave and you know,
going in on our days off and stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So that part, you know, yeah, the succession you mentioned,
you know, walking elevator opening and seeing everybody there, How
did that?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I mean that? Yeah, so that whole thing I had
just gotten. Uh the person who is now my manager,
name is Melissa Young. She's a beast. She's awesome. And
it was like, you know, I'd been with her for
a couple of months, done a bunch of auditions, and uh,
I booked like as soon as I was like my
favorite show at the time. I was like, no way.
So I literally just jumped in my car and started
driving to New York. I thought I had like one

(28:05):
line on I knew I had like one line or something,
so I was like, I'll probably be there for like
a day. Didn't even like read the whole letter carefully.
I just was already driving. And then I was on
the phone with Melissa and she was like, yeah, so
it's five and I was like, oh, it's five days. Okay,
that's cool. You know, I'll tell and I only packed
like for two days or somewhere to sleep. Also, yeah,
well that I covered because I had my friend. And

(28:25):
there was something in the letter about like you know,
you'll have like a green room. And again for me,
like green room is like a room we're all sitting,
you know, all the extras or whatever background folks are
sitting together. There's a bathroom that we share. I get there,
it turns out the the green room is of my
own hotel room. The hotel room is the same hotel
that the cast is staying in. I'm on the same

(28:47):
floor as like Karen Culkin and you know, Nicholas Braun
and stuff. And it just was like yeah, another but
also like it took so long for me to get
here that I kind of like it's it's been happening
at the right time, and it's taken me this many
years and you know, this many decades to kind of

(29:09):
like see like how much it just it just feels better.
I don't exactly know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah,
it just it just feels like I have a little
bit more of a bird's eye view of stuff now
and just kind of like what is what's important about
it is not the like in my twenties, I was like,
we have to be the most famous band in the world,
and like I'm not gonna enjoy and I didn't enjoy it.

(29:32):
I mean, I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it. I did,
but like mostly I was like insecure and like worried
about like you know, the next thing, and like if
we don't do this, then I'm never gonna make it
or whatever. At this point in my life, like, look,
this is all awesome. This is there's no I know
how lucky I am to be able to say, like
I am doing exactly what I always wanted to do
in my life. Like that's what I'm doing. But if

(29:55):
it all goes away, like that's okay too, man, Like honestly,
like I have family, I have like my friends, I
have a other career I can go back to, you know,
I have like other ways to survive and stuff. You know.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Well, again, I don't want to jinx anything, but yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I don't want to keep saying that maybe I still
can't believe it. Yeah, I honestly, you dude, I cannot
believe any of this still, Like if you it doesn't.
It's not that it doesn't feel real, it's just it's
like too good sometimes, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, no, but I think you know, from from what
I've seen, I think you're I think you're very charismatic.
I'll be honest, I think you're very charismatic. And so
that's so that's you know, what people like to to
not only see on a screen, but also what they
like to work with. And I can't imagine you having
or anybody like having a negative interaction with you, like
on a set or whatnot. Again, like Deli Boys, it

(30:46):
just looks like everybody is having fun. Everybody feels like
they're a family, even though they're you know, kind of
enemies in the in the show. But like it feels
so effortless.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, man, And that's like the one thing about all
of it is is it is not just about one person. Man.
It's like, especially from the you know, the few years
that I've been doing this, it is such a collaborative
thing to make a movie or a show or a play,
or like any artistic endeavor which involves more than yourself,
Like you can't you know, you have to be open

(31:17):
to like collaborating with other people.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I know over here, we know, you know, the the
Boys of Boston, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, They're like the
most We have a lot of famous people from from
you know, Massachusetts, from New England. But I still feel like,
you know, sometimes people may think, you know, that's for
that's that's for them, but I don't have a chance
if you could give advice to somebody who hears your story,

(31:41):
who is interested in the arts and whatever form, but
they feel like, you know, Hollywood's too far away, Ellie's
too far away, or that dream is too far away.
Any words of advice that you can offer.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, man, you just make stuff. I mean, especially now
it's you can make a movie on your phone, like
you it's not like definitely like don't wait for stuff
to come to you, you know, don't I think like
also be wary of I don't know, I guess thinking

(32:13):
that you should be like a yes and type person
if that makes sense, like like they teach an improv
and stuff like yeah, like and just I don't know,
there's just like surround yourself. This is very I feel
like generic advice. I hope it's not, but like you
just surround yourself with other people that like inspire you

(32:33):
and like give you life and stuff and just like
make stuff with them. And that's what I did in
my twenties, like to start this band and like then
when it came to act, you know, I joined a
local theater troup and after I got sober I've been
sober fourteen years. A couple of years into it, there
was a local theater troupe that focused on actors and recovery.

(32:54):
So at the time it was called the Improbable Players.
Now it's called Second Act. And we would do plays
in uh, in drama workshops in middle schools, high schools,
like community centers and stuff just for simple stuff about
you know, addiction that not like too many props or anything,
but that kind of like got the acting thing going again.
And so that was like one community that I found.
H sub drift is another one, subcontinental drift here in

(33:17):
Boston of just people that you know, like anything that
you want to do, there's somebody out there doing it.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
So that's uh, you know, people when when I'm out
on the field in the field reporting and you know,
every now and then somebody will come up to me like, hey,
how did you get your job? How did you get
started and whatnot, and I told him like, well, and
sometimes I'll say, you know, I went to school for
for broadcast journalism. And then I kind of see like
a little bit of deflation in the in their eyes.
But then I tell them immediately like, but you don't have.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
To do that. I didn't really do it. I didn't
really start. I mean, look I I was, I'm a
three time college drop out. I did eventually finish a
US level. But I I didn't go to school to
be an actor.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
No, not just like do it, just just like like
you said, make make video. I told somebody just this
past week. They asked like, how do how do you
do this? And as I said, you know, I went to.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
College for this.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
But if you have, if you have a free weekend
where you're not working, go go to an event, go
somewhere and you could you can record on your phone
or get a like you know, a starter microphone or
what have you. But just go out there and do
it over and over and over again until you you
become more comfortable. And then when you become more comfortable
and you have enough good content, then you can make

(34:30):
a demo reel. And then and then started like making
connections and so.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Like, I mean, I started acting in student films here
in Boston. Boston has a couple of amazing schools, be
you Emerson and some of those a lot of those
students are super talented. I still have a reel from
a friend of mine who is now actually wants to
put me in a feature film that he's doing, uh,
from when he was in bu Uh. It's you know,

(34:55):
it's it was that good. Uh, so like it can
be done. Yeah, I still even just earlier this year,
I acted in in Everson College students student film just
because I liked, I like to work and stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
So yeah, I know, we get a lot of casting calls,
and one thing we do on the podcast is we
list the casting calls from Boston, casting from from you know,
the local colleges as well, because not only do we
like you know, to spotlight and highlight local talent and
how in whichever, you know, whatever form they work at
in the industry, we you know, promote those casting calls

(35:27):
because hey, maybe this is your break, maybe this is
what your experience that you build up that goes to
the next project and the next project, and so yeah,
I love that. Again, we call this Hollywood East. We're
seeing a growth, We're seeing I think a boom in
you know, not only the local talent, but the desire
to bring talent over here as well. And you're helping,
You're I think you're you're you are you know, firsthand helping.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
That means so much to me because like, look, ten
years ago, I was kind of wondering if that could
ever happen for me, you know. So it's it's just
it's really really cool and super gratifying to like, first
for like, to be in a position where you're asking
me for advice is wild.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, you know again, I feel a lot a lot
of similarities between us because there's a there's a couple
of reporters who are new at Busy and and I
know I look young, but I've been reporting for about
eleven twelve years, and so one of the reporters recently
came like, yeah, I have a question for you, because
you know, as a veteran reporter, I wanted to get

(36:25):
your thought. And I'm like, whoa whoall veteran reporter Like,
oh my god. And then it takes me a second like,
oh god, I've been here for a while. I've been
doing this for a while. I'm the veteran now, which
sounds crazy, but no, it's nice to be in that
position where people can ask you for advice or you
know the dues and don'ts, and you can like steer
them in the right direction in ways that people somebody
maybe helped you when you were in that same position.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
And also sometimes you have to be like, look, there's
no rules. No, they're right you kind of like broad
you know, like it's not like you do this, take
this exam and then you guaranteed you know, there's no
rules to yes and like broken probably every rule that
I don't know I heard. So, yeah, you're a disruptor.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, man, So let me ask you because we can
go into more of these, uh of your of your
projects here that you've done. But I always ask people,
what are you watching right now?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh man, let's see. So my wife Lauren and I
we just watched We're in the middle of Severance for sure,
And I got the pleasure I had the pleasure of
working with Djen Lachman in Aftermath a couple of years
before I believe the first season of Severance actually came
out then White Lotus for Sure. I also really love

(37:39):
the Righteous Gemstones and so lucky to have Tim Bolt
in Deli Boys from who plays BJ and Righteous Gemstones.
So many good shows Man Interior Chinatown another Hulu show,
never heard of, an absolutely phenomenal show. Jimmy Jimmy Yang,
Jimmy Oh Yang and Ronnie Chang the two stand ups
they have. It's called Interior like I in Tea, like

(38:00):
in a script. Interior Chinatown just an incredible stylistic cool show.
Reservation Dogs another show, and we actually have another just
I can't believe I get it. Like one of their
editors is one of the editors of Deli Boys too,
Baharun and a couple of actually a few I think
a few of their editors worked on Deli Boys as well.

(38:24):
We randomly were watching this show it's a few years old,
called Escape from Escape at Denimore Escape from Denimore Prison.
It's like Benicio del Toro Patricia Arcat Like didn't seem
like it was gonna be that interesting because it's about
like a prison break. It's a story that's that kind
of thing has been done before. It is based on
a true story, but just done very very well. What

(38:44):
else am I into? Man oh one of my favorite
shows in the last ten years, Midnight mass.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
You're like listening so many I don't watch as much
as many shows as you do.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Thing like, there's just so much. Yeah, there is there.
So that's why it's it's hard to like know if
you know whatever, there's just there's shows for like any Yeah,
so I think it can be a little bit overwhelming.
But but yeah, so I know.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I I keep hearing great things about White Lotus, about
the Severance. Yeah, and uh again, I guess I guess
you know, watching what am I watching right now besides
Deli Boys on Hulu streaming right now?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Uh, you know, set up a bot form.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, I'm watching, you know, Daredevil. The thing is, like
I and I was telling Jamie, we've we've talked in
you know, at length about the whole Marvel the state
of Marvel, and I've really hit the slump where I'm
like not not really excited for the movies or for
the shows or whatever. And I really like Daredevil when
it was on Netflix when I first had its its
first run. Now it's on Disney Plus, and I was

(39:43):
very hesitant to get into it, even though like I
like the character, like Charlie Cox, the actor. I was like,
it's Marvel's just had as have a bad taste in
my mouth by never much of a Marvel person. Yeah,
so I'm in that slump. However, I started watching. I
watched the first episode because Jamie did a review the
firs two episode and it's great, Like it's it's really
really good TV. So get I got back into Daredevil

(40:06):
looking forward to and Or and Or season two. That's
the Star Wars one.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Also, I'm not a huge Star Wars person. I know,
I'm very like it's dude, I saw the original three
Star Wars like one time. You know, sometimes that's all
you need. I think for most of I was like seven,
I don't remember too much about it, you know, Like,
but yeah, I respect that. I respect that.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of Star Wars
gluts right now. However, and Or I assure you it
is a very very good Star Wars show, and season
two is coming out soon.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Also before Mo Must Show Mo on Netflix. It's about
Palestinian immigrant family that lives in Houston. Amazing show. It's
just a second season now, Okay. So and actually one
of my cast mates from Deli Boys, who's in my
Gang as her Asman. He was one of the writers
on that show. He also wrote on the show rom Me.
So yeah, so many good shows. I'm making a list now,

(40:57):
making a list. Yeah, I'll text you.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's funny, I think. Convince my I have to watch
anything new. She always sticks to like comfort shows, sure,
whether it's anything's wrong with you as I love the
shows also, but like psych or Seinfeld and I have to.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Like it's funny. You mentioned that that's actually something that
aws If from Deli Boys talked about in another interview
that him and I did together, or he's talked about
it in several where South Asians we we we never
had a show that you could like rewatch, like a
comedy kind of thing like that, and Deli Boys is
kind of that, like I could see myself and hopefully

(41:30):
you can't just like watching it and like rewatching it
and like going, you know, like we didn't have that
kind of a Seinfeld type show. No.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, again, at the at the point where I watched
two episodes, I'm three in, so I'm the fourth one.
I'm again rafter this. I'm gonna watch episode four. But
after the second episode of Time, my wife like this
is really good.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
You need to watch it.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
She's like, oh, you already started it, Like I'm down
and watch it again. I'm down and watch it again.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
They're like twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah no, yeah, so no, those those are some some
things I'm watching right now.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Are you into movies? Say so as you're a TV guy? Yea, yeah,
yeah yeah, what's uh? But now you're gonna ask me,
what's like a movie that I saw recently. I'll start,
I'll give you, I'll give you time to think. I watched.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I'm a big Paddington fan, okay, Paddington one, Paddington two.
I always say Paddington two. Yeah, I always say Paddington
two is Empire strikes Back. Oh that's not good for you.
It's the the godfather to the Paddington series. It's a
it's a it's a fantastic movie. Paddington in Peru just
came out this past month in the States. They came
out in in the UK months ago, but it just

(42:33):
reached the States.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
But it's good. It's good movie. Okay. So, I mean
you're right that I'm probably currently more of a TV
guy than a movie guy as much. But oh, one
thing that last year that I remember that that we
liked a lot was dream Scenario Nicholas Cage. Oh, it
was odd here in Kendall Square.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Which one is that the one where people are dreaming
of him? Yeah, I saw that one too. That was
really good. That one's really good. That's a good one.
I feel like there's not a horror one recently that
I've seen, But there is.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
A new horror movie that a friend of mine shall
directed Shall Know on Hulu. It's called Control Freak, which
just came out yesterday, which I need to go see. Excellent.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well, a shout out to Control Freak and all those
other amazing projects.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Well, I think, I mean, I feel like we've hit
a lot of topics. And know you mentioned you have
your punk rock. Yeah, and I'm curious how did punk
rock enter your life?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Man? So, when I was nineteen or twenty, I had
been dropping out of college left and right, and a
sort of a teenage friend of mine and I ended
up starting like what would become this band called the
Kamina's Ko m I Nas And it was the first

(43:49):
like South Asian punk band we would get called a
Muslim punk band for sort of like the tongue in
cheeks stuff that we did. This was around We started
the band in two thousand and four, so we actually
just celebrated our twentieth amgissary in December. We had a
little reunion. Not super active anymore, but yeah, that was
took over my life for you know, a good ten
fifteen years. Just we have like four or five albums.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
What do your parents or family think of like they were.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, yeah, well we kind of like they just want honestly,
like it was more just because I was, you know,
mental health was not that great. Yeah, you know, so
they just kind of I was looking, it was having
trouble finding my way and stuff. But our band did
start to get a good a good amount of attent.
We got like written up in Rolling Stone and stuff,
and we put out a few albums. We went on
some tours here and internationally and stuff. And yeah, so

(44:40):
I mean for a lot, for like most of my twenties,
I was basically just on the road touring playing music.
Now I play with a really great brand in Providence
called Rob Chevy. We have we're gonna be recording a
new new album this year. So I'm actually sort of
like Providence. It's my second home. Actually just had an
article come out today and Rhode Island monthly and I'm

(45:00):
there usually like once every couple of weeks, if not more.
So I still do a ton of music. Next week
I'm playing with a good friend of mine up at UVM.
His name is Sonny Singh. He's like a Punjabi, a
sick Punjabi singer, trumpet player. He takes shabbad's from the
sick spiritual tradition and puts them to music. So we

(45:22):
went on a tour together in October with this woman,
Valerie Corps, who's an author. So yeah, man, music is
still a huge part of my life. I also make
music with the creator of Deli Boys, Abdullah. Me and
him and his elder brother have this band called Gods
where the s is a dollar sign. Yeah, so's that's
like a file sharing project almost where we just like
he'll send a beat and the idea is you just
kind of like write something to it, don't think too

(45:44):
hard about it, and then we just throw it together.
And we have like five six albums on band camp.
So I'm always like I'm always making something. I play guitar.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Please tell me that you're working to get a song
onto Deli Boys. Oh yeah, for sure, I want to
hear that for sure. Yeah, I'm sure, I guess I'm
I'm already planning for a season two.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I'm already. Bill actually did the theme song for Deli Boys.
His other band sonny Eli and the Kid. They have
a song in there. The music in the show is
really good.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, it is the composers. So yeah, excellent. Well this
is a huge pleasure of mine. Thing is so much
for coming in. Where can people find you? Learn more
about you? And again just continue watching this, this this
upper trajectory of yours.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, So, I mean the best place is Instagram. I
guess at Shajasthan so s h a h j I
s t a n Shajasthan. Or I have a website
shajahn Hahn dot com my first name and then my
last name han k h a n dot com. So
that's where all my stuff is. Or I mean, I
guess you could google me, but I can't be held

(46:46):
responsible for what comes up up because I don't have
a publicist. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
So, like everything's out there, and I don't want to
prolong this because again I don't want to hold you up.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
But like I'm just literally doing nothing. Oh. I was
actually supposed to have dinner with some friends, but their
kid is saying, so I have literally nothing to oh.
I picked my wife up eventually from word axent.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Well, hopefully they get well soon. But let me ask you,
has your ethnicity maybe, like I don't know, affected you know,
your your thoughts of going into any certain direction. And
the reason why I asked is because you know, I'm
Mexican American. My grandparents immigrated over here, and my parents,

(47:23):
you know, they were born and raised in southern California,
and I don't know, like growing up, I never felt
out of I guess to an extent because maybe there
wasn't that much representation of Mexicans on TV shows or movies,
and so I kind of felt like didn't really have
anybody to really relate to. And there are times where
you know, some you know, friends of mine or a

(47:44):
friend of mine back in high school says something about
like oh, you speak so well for being one of us,
or or your house is so much nicer than mine,
and like he's white and I and you're Mexican and
things like that. You know, it didn't hit directly, but
like years back in hindsight, I'm like, is there a
certain way I'm supposed to speak or am supposed to be?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Like? I don't know, you experience. So it's one thing
I forgot to mention is I also have award winning
narrative podcast series about this very topic called King of
the World. My name sha Jahan means King of the World.
I was named after the guy who built the taj Mahal,
and it's actually about growing up as an American Muslim
in the wake of nine to eleven. I came out

(48:25):
on the twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven and twenty
twenty one, and it's a seven part mini series about
because I was senior in high school when that happened,
and it deals and it's not like this sort of
a podcast. It's more of like an audio documentary. So
it's like me as the storyteller with characters coming in
including my family, my friends, my bandmates. Each episode sort

(48:46):
of deals with a different theme of identity of what
it means to belong in the US as one of
these kind of like first generation and all the similar
sorts of questions that I grappled with through the lens
of you know, a kid coming of age at the
age of eighteen. So if your listeners aren't sick of
hearing me talk already, you can hear me talk for

(49:07):
seven more hours, just with some cool sound effects and things.
And but yeah, it's called King of the World. But yeah, man,
for sure, it's it's it's it was all very large,
not large A. I grew up in a very not
diverse town, so like act in Boxborough, growing up was
pretty homogeneous. So I definitely grappled between the two identity

(49:30):
thing that a lot of us in the first generation
kids do, whether that you know, having like one identity
with one group of people one with another. Definitely dealing
with more covert occasional over you know, racism, prejudice, that
kind of stuff. So for sure, yeah, but the cool
thing is to be And definitely when we started our band,

(49:50):
a lot of that was a reaction to kind of
that post nine to eleven era, which I hate to say,
kind of sucks right now too, the whole this whole
conversation about like, you know, around immigrants and stuff and
just kind of like feeling are we wanted or not?
You know what I mean, Like I don't have to
tell you this, Yeah, so in a lot of ways,

(50:11):
like unfortunately that stuff. But I think the difference now
is like people like you have a show, I'm like
doing the stuff I'm doing, where like the creators, you know,
we're not just like tangential parts of this like story,
like we're the ones that are like writing it to
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
No, excellent. Yeah, and again just the advice of people
just do what you want to do. If you want
to do something, go for it. Don't care about what
people think because oftentimes they're not thinking about you at all.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
So and also like I remember one of the best
pieces of advice I got was like, why would you
take advice from someone who's not doing what you want
to do? You know? That's that's great. Yeah, excellent.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Well, Shadja Han Khan, thank you so much for joining
us on the Hub on Hollywood. We're gonna hold on
to your your phone number, your email and everything because
definitely want to have a security numbers please, yes, take
that on the way out, but no, I definitely want
to have you back on. You're an extremely uh you know,
you're a great guest, very insightful, and I'm really looking

(51:11):
forward to seeing you on more TV screens. And hopefully
big screens at the AMC at Assembly Row would be great,
but yeah, thank you,