Bill McEwen & I Discuss the Fresno Unified School District's Superintendent Search

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fresne Unified School District has had severe, severe challenges and
problems for years, and I'm very happy to be joined
in the studio by a guy who kind of was
one of the first to really open my eyes to
all of the problems within Fresne Unified. He is the

(00:21):
news director for GV Wire, mister Bill McEwan. So welcome Bill.
Let's dig right, let's dig into this. You had this
really good editorial at a GV wire talking about the
superintendent search at Fresnoe Unified, and I I thought the

(00:45):
most the best line from it that you put in
italics I noted was which candidate is best equipped to
lead an academic revolution that results in ten of thousands
more students meeting state standards for literacy and math? And

(01:06):
I think that was really important for understanding the scale
of the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So when you look at Frozne Unified's most recent test scores,
you see that not only does the district overall trail
the state standards by a mile, trails neighboring school districts
that have similar demographics, and of course Trail Clovis Unified,
which has more prosperous demographics as far as the economic

(01:35):
success of the households there. But when you really dig
into the numbers, and you have to realize that Frosne
Unified sixty three sixty five thousand students overwhelmingly students of color.
And when you look at math scores, ninety percent of
Black students or below the state standards. In math, eighty

(01:58):
percent of Black Stipe students are below state standards. As
far as literacy, when you go to Hispanic students, eighty
percent below for math, about seventy percent for literacy. I mean,
this is just terrible. And even more terrible is that
the community is put up with this. And this isn't

(02:21):
a recent decline. This has been going on for thirty
forty years. And what has happened in the community is
families that say, you really can't get a great education
at Fresnel Unified, or I don't think they're going to
maximize my child's potential. Well they've moved to another district.
They've left Fresnel Unified behind. Rather than engaging our political

(02:46):
structure and making the recovery or the rebuilding a Fresnel
Unified a priority. And here's another big thing. Voters have
invested billions in Froznel Unified. You think of a passage
of five bond measures, building of new schools, converting portables

(03:11):
to permanent space, all the infrastructure effort that has gone
into this. And you know a lot of people say
when a student goes to a school that's bright and
clean and new, they sense that the community cares and
they'll perform better. Well, that hasn't been the case of
Froznel Unified.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah. Well, and that's one of the questions I had
for you. So your editorial was focusing on this search
for the new permanent superintendent to replace Bob Nelson. They
have Misty her is in place right now as the
interim superintendent. There was a lot of reporting that she
was like the air apparent and they were just going

(03:51):
to make her the superintendent. And then, as you noted,
that process kind of got blown up and people say, well,
why are we only hiring internally for this is the
third largest school district in California. It's massively underperforming. You know,
whether Misty here is a good person or not, it
seems kind of crazy to just restrict ourselves only to

(04:14):
internal candidates for a school district that's failing. Let me
ask you specifically about Measure H. So we approved this
five hundred million dollar bond, which will cost the taxpayers
like nine hundred billion dollars. Are the funding priorities mandated
by Measure H? Is that kind of a hindrance to

(04:34):
getting the new superintendent of superintendent's walking in? Like, oh, well,
the financial priorities for the district are already like largely set. No,
it's a first.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Step opposite for an outside candidate, and outside candidates want
to go to districts that have investment in infrastructure coming. Okay,
it's an exciting time. Yeah, that should actually, you know,
be a sweetener for someone whether they're out of state
or somewhere else in California and say, yeah, this district's
underperformed for a long time. But zero point one, when

(05:06):
the search was limited to internal candidates only, the community
rose up, so that that has to appeal to an
outside candidate. And number two, look at the history of
passing these bond measures, including Measure H, which will cost
property owners within frozenel unified about one point two billion

(05:28):
dollars when it's paid off.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Really, it's going to be that much with interest, yes, okay, yeah, yeah,
I sort of thought. I mean, is there anything though,
like like a new superintend tendent would want like funding
priorities to sort of align in the right. I mean,
I don't know if all the money is sort of
allocated to certain things and if a new superintendent really
has the leeway too.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, so in California, a lot of the funding is
set by the State of California. And you have to
remember that Jerry Brown implemented a local control funding formula,
and so a district like Frozne Unified, which has a
lot of students from poor families, they get more funding

(06:11):
per student. Frozene Unified gets significantly more funding per student.
Then let's say Clovis Unified. And the reality is then
that funding is supposed to be directed towards the needs
of the students. Instead, what has happened at Frosnel Unified
is it's just become a self perpetuating bureaucracy. And under

(06:37):
Bob Nelson, a guy that really knows academics, really knows
what to do, and Nelson didn't have the backbone to
fire or demote under performing administrators. In addition, the district
has a long history, let's say of principles who have failed,

(07:00):
haven't shown, haven't done the job at their campuses. Instead
of saying, well, we gave you a chance to be
a leader, you need to go back to the classroom.
Because typically principles come from teachers who are accomplished. They
kick them upstairs, they kick them downtown and give them more,
you know.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
A bigger job, a bigger salary.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, a bigger job, a bigger salary. So it's you know,
I hate to say and muse a cliche like the
Peter principle, but the Peter principle has been in an
effect forever at Froznoe Unified.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And I want to ask you about that. That obviously,
the the major challenge within Fresney Unified, and what seems
to dominate so much of the discourse is the union.
And you know, how how to you know, issues like
that that you're raising with. You know, you got an
underperforming principle, and rather than fire or demote that person,

(07:53):
they kick upstairs. Presumably that's in part because of pressures
from the union. The union protects its people. How what
kinds of restrictions it is the existence of the union
and the positioning that they have with the most recent
agreement they signed with the district back in what was

(08:14):
that November of twenty three. Is that going to be
a significant hindrance for any new superintendent to really effectively
do the stuff that you're talking about, as far as
eliminating or demoting underperforming leaders, underperforming principles, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So it doesn't really affect people at the cabinet level.
They're at will employees, Oh okay, and you know, considered executives.
The other thing is, anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
It was purely lack of spine then oh totally okay,
So yeah, so I had been under this assumption. It
was just because like, oh, well, it's caused a massive
fight with a union if you take a principle and
get rid of them. But no, you're it's actually it's harder.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
FTA has focused on teachers. Okay, that's its membership. Here's
the thing, any superintendent coming to a district this large
knows it has to deal with a union. You know,
except in states where education they don't have unions. In California,

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it's well established. The other thing is Brosnoe Unified has
pure districts like Long Beach Unified, Garden Grove Santa Ana.
They're all unionized, and yet they're able to do much better.
And the biggest example would be Los Angeles Unified, which

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for years was struggling, and then they hired the superintendent
for Miami Dade, and that superintendent had gone to Miami Dade,
it is one of the worst performing districts in Florida
and brought it to the top in like three years.
So this shows you how important the superintendent is. And

(10:01):
this is something I don't think I've covered or emphasized enough.
The new superintendent has to instill urgency, and that is
what's been lacking in Frozeno Unified. Regardless of whatever superintendent
they've hired, there's not been urgency. There hasn't been this

(10:21):
idea that we can't waste another moment in not teaching
our children in a way that enables them to fulfill
their potential.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I want to ask about now that it seems like
there's been some reporting at gv Wire that Misty Herb
is the camp is the person who's likely to get
this job, even still after the initial brew haha over
earlier on, do you think the Board of Trustees actually

(10:55):
has this appropriate level of urgency that you're talking about
here that I mean, we had this blow up over
keeping the search internal. Presumably they've brought in external candidates
and we're just landing again on the exact same person.
And I mean, I've liked sort of many of the

(11:16):
things that I've read about Misty Hurr. I don't know
that she's I mean, I don't know that she's a
terrible pick, but she's never been a superintendent before. And
it's an internal candidate from again, this administration that has
already been underperforming. Do you think there's just a lack
of urgency or on the part of the Board of
Trustees itself.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, I think that Unfortunately, the Board of Trustees largely
is a very political organization. And when you look at
the three trustees, you have one trustee who recently ran
in her Frosno City Council special election, right. You have
another trustee, Keisha Thomas, who's going to be running for

(11:57):
a Frozen City council. You have have a Islas, a
community activist who has run for Fresno City Council in
the past. So these people have political stripes and so
they make political considerations and I think their read is
that Misty Hurr will be a very popular choice with

(12:18):
the community. We ran a poll on it and three
out of four people. You know, one of the answers was,
you know, is it kind of is this a bad choice?
Was the process flawed? But we had an answer that said,
way to go, Misty, We're proud of you. Three out
of four people voted sure that way, So she is popular.

(12:39):
She has done things that I admire. We haven't seen
them implemented, but on paper it says no one can
get promoted unless they have a superior evaluation on their
job performance. That is really good to hear. She set
very ambitious goals for academic improvement. I'd like to see

(13:02):
that and basically their goals over three to five years.
My question is does she have the ability to scale
this out when you consider the size of the disc
rake And my other question is, you know, does she
have the political savvy? Does she have the acumen to
effectively negotiate with the teachers union.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
We're talking with Bill McEwen from GV wire, and we
will be right back with more on the John Girardi Show.
We're talking with Bill McEwen from GV wire. I've been
praising his editorial in GV Wire about the search for
the new Fresnoy Unified Superintendent. Bill, maybe in the last
you know, three and a half minutes that we got here,

(13:47):
I wanted to ask you the impact we've just seen
this change happening in Close Unified now of switching from
at large board of trustees where every member of the
Close Unified Board of Trustees was by the whole district
to regional where now individual members of the Close Unified
Board Trustees will be elected by separate regions. That has

(14:08):
been the system within Fresney Unified. Have those has that
system helped or hurt? I mean, you've been observing this
stuff for a long time. You've seen Close Unified, You've
seen Fresney Unified. I feel like it leads to more
kind of regional jealousies and maybe like the tuning out
of like say the Bullard faction, because well it's just

(14:30):
the rich people up north. They don't care about us,
you know, in Sunnyside or you know, blah blah blah.
Just one was interested in your taken all that.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
So, I mean it is you know the law, and
there's always rough patches in the transition. I believe it
can be successful, but again, John, it comes down to
the quality of the people that you were electing. Sure,
and Clovis besides using the large system in every body says, look,

(15:00):
how well it's worked, but they haven't really done an
evaluation of the people who run for office and how
they perform. And in Clovis Unified, I would say they
have made student performance fulfillment of student potential, rounding out
of their lives with lots of sports and other extracurricular

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or the word they use now co curricular activities. They've
always made that a priority and they've always acted with
a sense of urgency. And you know Clovis Unified demographics,
they have more poor students than they've ever had, and
they have schools that are so called Title I schools

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that do get extra help in that kind of thing.
And when you take a look at those schools and
pit them against their Fresno Unified peer, they outperform them
by a mile. So people who say, oh, well Clovis Unified,
it's the rich district, that's rich kids. They haven't made.
Of course they're gonna do better. Yeah, there's a little

(16:08):
bit of truth to that, but there's a bigger truth,
which is when you compare similar demographic schools between Clovis
and Fresno, Clovis far outshines them. So you have to
say why right, that urgency is a big part of that.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
John, Yeah, well so I don't know if you've got
your crystal ball. But what is in the last forty
seconds here? What's your crystal ball for? Who's going to
be the president Unified Superintendent?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, it's going to be mistery her. She has been selected.
I mean they can hide behind it and say they
haven't selected her. They have and you know now they're
negotiating a contract and stay tuned April twenty third when
her selection is announced.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Okay, all right, Well we will stay tuned for that
and we'll be reading your writing in GV wire again.
Thank you so much, Bill, I really appreciate again. I've
been admiring your work on this topic specifically for a
long time. It's real pleasure to talk with you about it.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Thank you, John.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
All right, we will be back with more. Democrats are
actually thinking of updating the sacred Cow of Sequa. We
will dig into that right after the break. This is
John Girardi here on the Valley's Power Talk Our thanks
to Bill McEwan for joining us earlier in the show.
I'm gonna shift gears now away from Fresno to a

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little bit bigger picture California stuff and my deep annoyance,
my annoyance over the fact that liberals are going to
change their mind after only, you know, twenty years of
never ever changing, banging their heads against the wall, insisting
that they're right about everything. Because basically the state is

(17:57):
that with a number of ish just at a point
of near complete free fall. We're near this point where
we could be facing a ten billion dollar budget deficit
this year. The explosion of medical costs is just completely

(18:19):
bankrupting medical because Gavin Newsom added illegal aliens and it's
way more expensive to take care of all the illegal
aliens than he expected. Budget is a mess. New construction
is a mess. There have been like four permits for
new houses to be built for all of the houses

(18:41):
that got destroyed in the fires this past winter in LA.
There's just thing after thing after thing after thing. We
have this financially unsustainable tax model we have just we
are on the brink of complete and utter destruction. And

(19:09):
I guarantee that the next governor, the next session of
the legislature, maybe not this one, but maybe the next governor,
maybe the next session of legislature will be a Democrat
and will do some things to alleviate some of the

(19:30):
massive problems in California, and we'll get a bunch of
credit for it. And it will be Democrats getting credit
for a Democrats with the bravery and vision to do
what is necessary, even though it's stuff that Republicans will
have been yelling into the wind for the last twenty
years that we should have done. Like just sheer necessity

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is going to force some Democrat or group of Democrats
to cut things, maybe to maybe the next governor finally
abandons the high speed rail project, for example. A bunch
of Democrats are going to get the credit for being
visionaries and having the bravery to cut against the grain
of their party. And that is I think this is

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starting to happen right now with Sequat. So here is
the McClatchy California Editorial Board. So mcclatchy's the news out
of it owns Sacramento, be it owns a Fresnobie. So
now I guess they have a McClatchy California Editorial Board.
I'm not sure exactly who that is, but it's probably

(20:38):
a collection of all their California editorial folks, and they
have this big piece out promoting this bill introduced by
a Liberal Assembly member from Oakland, Buffy Wicks. Buffy Wicks
has introduced a bill to massively amend SEQUA, the California

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Environmental Quality Act and basically to exempt all kinds of
urban housing construction projects from SEQUA. What is SEQUA, you
may ask, I will tell you all right. SEQUA is

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another bit of Ronald Reagan's bad legacy as California governor,
law that he signed in nineteen seventy, the California Environmental
Quality Act. And what SEQUA does is it requires any
kind of new construction, some new development to provide an

(21:43):
environmental impact report, some kind of environmental impact assessment. And
the problem with SEQUA is it sort of addresses this
issue of well, who is able to enforce environmental standards?

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Who is able to enforce environmental standards? If the government's
not doing enough of its job, should we just have
the government enforce environmental standards or should other people? And
if we let other people do it. Who is authorized
to stand for the birds and the trees and the
flowers in the fields, Who is able to represent them

(22:28):
in court? This is a problem called standing. Standing is
this very bedrock fundamental American legal doctrine. It basically is
the doctrine of who can sue? Who's allowed to sue?

(22:49):
If you crash a car into Agent Squires are intrepid
producer on the Junt Already show. If you crash a
car into Agent Squire's house, I'm not allowed to sue
the guy who the car if I sue the guy,
and I go in front of the judge and the
judge says, why are you suing? I'll say, Judge, I
was really upset because my friend some guy drove into

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his house, So I'm suing the guy who did that.
And the judge is like, well, I'm sorry you're upset,
but you don't have standing to sue. The fact that
you're upset doesn't give you standing to sue. Agent Squires
can sue the guy his house got smashed into by
a car. So to have standing usually you need to
establish some kind of injury, some kind of infringement on

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your rights, something like that, some kind of financial loss
or potential financial laws whatever. But this is the problem
with environmental harms, is that the environmental harm of let's
say you're building some new warehouse. Okay, there's gonna be

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pollution as a result of building a new warse. Trucks
are going to drive there to drop stuff off or
pick stuff up. Some amount of adverse environmental impact is
going to happen. But how does any one individual person
show that they have suffered such harm, such clear, concrete,

(24:19):
cognizable harm, that they actually have standing to sue the
people who've developed or started that warehouse for those for
the harm that they have suffered of You know, my
kid now has asthma, and I can death definitively show
through clear factual chain of causation that my child now

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has asthma because this warehouse was built. Well, that's really
hard to do. You can't. It's basically impossible to do that.
So it's hard with environmental harms outside of something really egregious.
This company poured poison into the river, and my child

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drank water from the poisonous river and died. Outside of
something really where the chain of causation is really clear
cut like that it's hard for anyone to establish, any
one individual to establish that they have suffered harm clearly
because of this environmental damage caused by some business development,

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and therefore I have standing to sue. So California resolved
this with SEQUA sequel which requires that some new development
have an environmental impact study that they do and then
allows anybody basically any Tom Dick or Harry. It massively

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opened up who has standing to sue? Basically said anyone.
Anyone can sue over the adequacy inadequacy of some construction
project environmental impact report. And in the last twenty years,
liberals have weaponized SEQUA to basically stop any project that

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they deem to be too environmentally harmful. Cities have tried
to help incentivize businesses to develop within their cities by
doing massive like citywide environmental impact studies and basically saying, okay,

(26:35):
well we've zoned this area of town for commercial slash industrial,
and so the impact on the environment of if we
build up according to that blah blah blah blah blah.
So cities will try to do a big time environmental
impact study and then they can market that to businesses
thinking of coming to a city by saying, hey, look,

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we've already done most of the work for you. You
can just piggyback off of our environmental impact report. You
come in and set up shop well. Cities doing city
wide environmental impacts surveys like that, as well as individual
businesses doing their own specific environmental impact surveys, have both

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been subjected to seek weel lawsuits that bring development to
a whole city of Fresno had its whole city wide
thing challenged, its whole city wide environmental Impact Plan challenge,
which led to basically every construction every new construction development

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project in the city was ground to a halt last year,
and individual development projects can just get stopped on a
dime with a lawsuit and a construction project just being halted.

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Standing there costs money, time and money and litigation costs.
This is what makes it really expensive to build in California.
I read someone the other day make the claim that

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SEQUA adds basically one hundred thousand dollars of cost to
every housing unit. The threat of litigation, the need to
account for the risks associated with litigation, the costs of
environmental impact studies, et cetera. It adds about one hundred
thousand dollars to the cost of a home in California,

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and it hugely disincentivizes builders from building. It is one
of many costs that just makes it difficult for developers
to build new housing. And one of the things that
you happen to see one of the trends that seems

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to happen and I see this all the time in
the Fresno area. The only stuff that developers can develop
that they know will be profitable because it's so expensive,
because the investment is so risky and expensive. The only
things developers feel is worthwhile are one really high end stuff,

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so really expensive condos in North Presdent, all these really
expensive like condo and apartment units getting developed all over
North Fresno in the last five years. And California State
certified quote lower income housing, which receives state subsidization. Those

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two things are profitable. Everything in the middle it's it's hard,
it's hard to do, it's hard to build in the middle,
making it more difficult for middle class families to exist.
So when we return, you know, I'm going to go
short on this segment so I can go longer the
next When we return McClatchy again, the editorial board for

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all these left wing newspapers all up and down the state,
newspapers that just cheer lustily every time some left wing
nonprofit uses SEQUA to stop some environmental harm they don't like.
Now all of a sudden are going to pat themselves
on the back or saying, oh, well, maybe sequel's gone
too far the liberal turn on Sequel. When we return

(30:34):
on the John Girardi Show, liberals are all going to
start patting themselves on the back. They're all going to
have rotator cuff injuries from how much they're going to
pat themselves on the back for finally changing their mind
about disastrous liberal policies in California, only because we're at
a crisis point, and they'll act like, ah, aren't we

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brave that we finally changed our mind to do the
things that Republicans have been screaming at us to do
for the last twenty years, and they're doing that with SEQUA,
the California Environmental Quality Act. So here's the big editorial
from McClatchy California. Basically all the McClatchy papers in California.
I guess Fresno b Sacramento, b et cetera. They are

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heralding Buffy Wicks, the Democrat State Assembly member from Oakland
who wants to exempt most new housing projects within existing
communities from SEQUA, the California Environmental Quality Act to avoid
slow in construction or killing needed housing projects. I think

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it's a test case for the environmentalists, Wick said in
a recent interview with The Bee. I think it's a
test case for labor because also that's another fun thing.
Labor unions can then weaponize SEQUA, the California Environmental Quality
Act to kill projects if they're not paying prevailing wage,

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like union higher cost union level wage, so they can
drive up construction costs. So that's another fun aspect of SEQUA.
I think it's a test case for the environmentalists. I
think it's a test case for labor. I think it's
a test case for Democrats. Buffy Wicks says she's right.
McClatchy says Assembly Bill six zero nine, her bill to

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reform SEQUA, should pass for one basic reason. Sometimes the
world changes dramatically and a law that is half a
centurial doesn't perfectly fit the times. This is the soft
this is the soft touch that mcclatchy's trying to do here. Yes,
we know that we and all the other liberals in
California have continued to endorse this insane policy for the

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last twenty years as it's led to this disaster situation
where housing in California is completely unaffordable and we don't
build nearly enough. And we've been complaining for the last
sixteen years that we don't build enough. But now we're
going to bravely be smart enough to actually change our
minds because we're finally at a crisis point here. The

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battle lines have yet to materialize on this new legislation,
which awaits its first analysis and committee hearing. We do
not have any kind of support or opposition yet from
the environmental community, which said there's no environmental community. There's
a couple of environmental nonprofits who are funded by billionaire
Democrat political donors that everyone in the Assembly and the

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Senate and the Governor are afraid to cross. And that's
why SEQUA has been on the books this whole time.
Environmental groups treated SEQUA like it was untouchable, like it
was the holy Gray. They even say it in this story,
in this piece from McClatchy SEQUA has wrongly been elevated

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in Sacramento to a nearly untouchable status, a faux Magna
carta of environmentalism, protected by a devoted legion of lawmakers, activists,
and staffers who comprise a Knights of the Sequa table
of sorts. It's time to break up the gang. Now,
it's time to break up the gang. The time to
break up the gang was twenty years ago. That's when

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it was time, not now. Well, I mean, I guess
better late than never. But this idea that, oh, we
should be so applauding for, you know, McClatchy. And by
the way, let's just recall this. This is McClatchy doing

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this editorial saying that SEQUE, saying how important it is
finally to reform sequel. Oh, and you know SEQUE was
really troubling. Let's note that a major McClatchy newspaper, the
Fresno Bee, has had its columnists just praising to the
skies sequel lawsuits that are totally absurd. Just this last December,

(35:02):
Tad Weber's, the opinion page editor for the Fresno b
had this glowing and gushing article, This glowing, gushing column
about I've talked about a number of times on the show.
I'm gonna keep on talking about it. A sequel lawsuit
that came out of Pixley, California. Pixley, as some of

(35:25):
you may know, is basically a pit stop on the
ninety nine. All due respect to the good citizens of Pixley. Sure,
it's a lovely place. It's a very small town. It
kind of just straddles the ninety nine. I don't know
that there's even a single part of the town that's
more than a mile away from the ninety nine. It's
just a it's an outpost on the ninety nine kind of.

(35:48):
I think it's in between Tilarry and Bakersfield, and they
were going to build a green energy hydrogen power plant there,
a zero emissions hydrogen power plant, and a liberal environmental
nonprofit sued to stop the construction of this green energy,

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zero emissions power plant on the basis of its adverse
environmental impact. Why because trucks would need to come there,
I guess, to bring the raw liquid hydrogen. So it
would have trucks coming to the power plant, and that
would increase pollution from the trucks. Two things. One, it's

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a green power plant. Maybe we can think of the
overall net beneficial environmental impact that a zero emissions hydrogen
power plant's going to have on the state as a whole,
rather than focusing just so microscopically on the environmental impact
of Pixley. Secondly, truck pollution and Pixley Pixley is nothing

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but truck pollution. It's you know how many gazillions of
trucks drive through Pixley every single day. It's again, the
whole town. There's not one square inch of the town
that's more than a mile away from the ninety nine.
The whole town is just an outpost on ninety nine.

(37:24):
Ninety nine goes right through it. That's and here's so
these liberals are gonna pretend like they're heroes for reforming
sequa when like five seconds ago they were cheerleading the
stupidest sequel lawsuit you could ever possibly fathom. I tell

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you that it's going to happen on issue after issue
after issue. Democrats are finally gonna change course, and they're
gonna tear their rotator cuffs trying to pat themselves on
the back doing the thing that Republicans have been screaming
at them to do for the last twenty years. That'll
do it. John Girardi Show, see yall next time on
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