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Jewet, I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about
everything and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came in hot. We got through a full week
of episode. Y'all clapick up. I am tired. Okay, I
am tired. I am tired, but I am so blessed
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and I am so grateful to be here. I'm Lauren Lerosa.
This is the latest with Lauren Lorosa. This is your
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So let's get started now today I'm gonna start off
with an interview. Now, the interview that I'm referencing, You
guys definitely should go and watch it. You know, once
you go and watch it, please let me know how
you felt about it. If you felt the same way
that I did. If you didn't feel the same way
that I did, that's fine as well too, But I
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would love to know, like if I was the only
one who felt some of the sentiments that I'm about
to express. So Andrew Schultz sat down with the Pivot,
Ryan Clirk and the team over there and they had
some conversations. Now, you guys will remember, and if you don't,
Andrew Schultz comedian Andrew Schultz of the Flagrant podcast. He
also does Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne. He is a comedian,
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like big comedian. Like if you don't know who he is,
I don't really know how to describe him, but google
him because welcome to the party. But he had sat
down with the it's like Shits and Giggles or Shits
Giggles something like that, the podcast. I don't even care
if I get their name right because I really don't
care for them after this whole debacle. But anyway, just
added some background context. He sat down with them. They
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were on his show Flagrant, where it's him and like
a few other hosts. And while they're Andrew Schultz and
the guys had begun joking about black women, and you know,
just there there were a few different jokes thrown, but
you know, some of the things that were insinuated were like,
you know, black women are stressful. We you know, we're aggressive,
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we you know that whole thing. It's like the angry
black woman, the we stress our man out, we don't
know when to keep our mouth shut, like that whole thing.
And people did not take it lightly, nor did they
care for you guys know that me Andrew Schaltz have
had the conversation about this when he came to the
Breakfast Club. If you didn't see that interview, please go
take a listen to that as well. But he sat
down with the Pivot and on the Pivot they talked
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about this, because when all of this happened, Ryan Clark
had actually they talked about it on the Pivot. On
that platform, and Ryan Clark shared sentiments that went pretty viral,
and in the sentiments he shared, he was basically saying, like, Okay,
so y'all are over there talking about black women, but
let me tell about the black women. I know, they're amazing.
They do this, they do that, they take care of us,
They hear the world on our back. And I'm, you know,
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making things up, not making them up, but I'm paraphrasing
and just summarizing a bit. But his sentiment was that
you guys have all of these negative things to say
about black women, you want to lean into these tropes
with the black women that, in my life literally are everything.
And Andrew Schultzen and Ryan Clark had a very one
on one conversation. Either are other people in the room
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about that moment Andrew Schaltz shared, you know, with Ryan
Clark that he felt like Ryan was not trolling, but
that it was like a clout chase because at that moment,
everybody was talking about Schultz and his jokes and blah
blah blah blah blah. Ryan made it very clear it
wasn't about you. He said, you know, basically, respectfully, I
don't care about you. I used you as a symbol
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of here's what happens when it comes to black women
in these little jokey jokes. Here's what happens when it
comes to black women in this non respect Basically, he
said that he felt like it didn't feel like a joke.
Like a lot of the things that Andrew Schultz said
and that sit down with the Shits and Giggles podcast,
I feel like that's something you heard, you regurgitated, that's
how you felt. Andrew Schultz of course took that offensively.
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He you know, felt like in the moment, you know,
you're throwing it on me that I don't know that
these tropes and these things exist that I don't know,
amazing women in general, but also amazing Black women, and
you know, like he kind of was offended that Ryan
thought that he was he was that ignorant to you,
you know, all of the things that you know, us
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as black women deal with, the stereotypes and the walls
that we, you know, fight against. But I think Ryan's
point was it's like, well, you know, I honestly might
not have been trying to make that point, but since
we're here, if that is what you understand, if that's
what you know, why would you even make that joke.
I understood why people were bothered. For me, it was
like it was the messenger like that's never gonna land
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well from white men. It's just not even if I
think it's funny as hell, like I think Andrew Shows
is funny. Especially after meeting him, I feel like, you know,
our conversation was a one and done conversation at the
breakfast club, but I feel like after meeting him, I
understand that he takes aim at everybody. You know, nobody
is a safe per se. But I do think that
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there is this like thing when it comes to black women,
and I think rightfully so one of my homeboys asked
me today, like, well, you know, that's kind of unfair.
So you want him to treat you different because you're
a black woman. And I was like yeah, and he
was like, well, I don't understand that. And I was like,
I mean, it's one of those things where to me,
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I feel like we carry so much, we deal with
so much, we are the ingredients so much that yeah,
handle me, talk to me nice. I think that there
is just a level of understanding that doesn't have to
happen when you're white. Period. My friend actually came back
around and was like, you know what, I kind of
understand it because it's like if a white woman were
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to say certain things about a black man. And they
brought this up in a podcast. They talked about Chelsea
Handler saying that because of how aggressive she is, white
men can't handle her. She was making a joke white
man can't handle her, she needed a black man, and
they were talking about how like you know that leans
into like black men have to be aggressive, they have
to be tough. And after this and after that, and
when they were telling the joke, my friend was like,
I don't really like that. I said, oh, you want
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to talk about mothers, Like, okay, now you understand, And
do you think Chelsea Handler is racist? He said no,
do you think she means it will to you. He said.
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No.
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I'm like, but it's because it's like, who are you?
That's all that the people are saying, and that is
the conversation that they were having on the pivot. I
do think that like somebody in the room at some
point could have been like, all right, bro, all right,
you know, like I feel like comedians should be able
to be comedians. They should be able to joke, they
should be able to have a good time. But I
do think that they got to stand on their shit though,
And that's why I'm like, I don't want to even
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really discuss the guys from the Shits and Giggle's podcast
who sat in that room and he ha ha joke,
he joked, and then after that we're like, oh my god,
we were so intimidating. We should have said something. If
we knew, we would have punched him in his face,
but we were just like, you know it just you know,
time and place, time and place. No, if they would
have stood on like yo, no, I thought the joke
was funny, it would have been like, okay, cool. I
think standing on it is the big thing. And that
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was like when me and Andrew Schultz had the conversation
at the breakfast club. That was my whole thing. It's like, okay, cool,
if that's how you you know, you want a joke,
but like, stand on it. And I do appreciate that
he does stand on I don't mean harm by this.
I'm a comedian. I understand He also in the Pivot
interview says he understands people that are upset. He gets it. Like,
if you're upset, he gets it. You have a right
to be upset. But he's still going to tell his joke.
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I don't think that comedians, white comedians should not be
able to joke about black people and black things. I
think funny is funny. But I do think that there
are you know, cultural awarenesses and certain levels of tone
deaf that you just have to be knowledgeable of so
that when the backlash or the response comes your way,
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you know how to deal with it. And then I
think they raised a good point too. In this interview.
The conversation came up in the room of like, okay,
because Andrew Schultz is white or whoever, right, should you
only as a comedian be able to joke about things
that you've actually experienced? So like if he had actually
experienced a black woman or like whatever the case may be.
I don't think that that should be a rule either,
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Like I'm so free flown when it comes to this,
But at the same time, I still kind of felt like,
m you know what you did, Like it's a hard
middle place to be in and rightfully so, I think
it depends on the day. And I think when my
friend asked me, like, as a black woman, you want
people to regard you differently, Yes, we do. But again,
at the same time, I'm still one that believes that
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people should be able to laugh and joking he ha
like and all that good stuff. But I will say
like it was I felt good watching the pivot and
them having a very respectful conversation about black men, feeling like, nah,
but don't play with them though, don't do that because
other way around, black women we coming out swinging like
we we moved, like we pushing protest lines about y'all period,
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And that's I think that that's the biggest thing as
well too. I think it was the optics of this
white man making the jokes regardless if you thought it
was funny or he could or not. But then it
was okay, there's these other black men who are there,
and it's no like, yo, bro, relax like. Even if
it was jokingly like yo, relax like, it was nothing.
So make sure y'all go check out that conversation on
the Pivot with Andrew Schauss. It was a really good conversation.
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I would love to hear what you guys thought about,
you know, the middle point that they came to in
that conversation. Now, next up, we're gonna take a very
hard rite and head on down to the South where
the Brick Squad be at in Atlanta. Waka Flaka so
Whaka Flaka posted this video today and in the video,
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he's having some internal thoughts about the fact that now
he's older and he don't want no holes no more.
He wants his woman. He say, he don't want no
thoughts no more. He wants his woman. He talks about,
you know, as you get older, becoming sensitive and more
sensitive and just wanting to be with one person, somebody
that's gonna hold you. And the people are in the
(10:41):
comments flaming my guy, Waka. You know I love you,
but they were flaming you, and I was kind of
I know why the people are doing it, because most
people are like, well, you had Tammy. She was a
dedicated wife, a loving wife, and you just couldn't hold
it together. It's given like waka, isn't it very I
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know he's still like doing shows and performances and all that,
but it seems like he's just in the mental space
of like, I just want something a little bit more
of substance right now, not even right now, but at
this point in my life, and whatever made him arrive
to that feeling. I'm not mad at it. I know
some of you guys make me mad about it. I'm
not mad about it. And the reason why I'm not
mad about it is because I think a lot of
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times as a woman, I think, and I've been guilty
of this and probably will be guilty of this again.
I think sometimes we date men and we try to
like be with men and you know, engaged and married
and having kids by these men because of where we
see them going, not where they're actually at. And I
think as a man, it's like men can kind of
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like compartmentalize a little bit. It's like, Okay, I know
I might not be ready for all of this, but
let me sit back and think about it. Like what's logically.
Men are so much more logical sometimes than we are,
even when the logic is like stupidity. And let me
explain that. When I say that, I mean like, okay,
so a a man will be like, all right, I
might not be the most happiest, but this home brings
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me peace. I'm here afraaidy to have kids. I know
so many men right now who are in situations where
they you know, they're married. They locked into these situations,
and to be honest with y'all, like, if they could
go and figure it all out again, they would, but
they're so locked in they can't. But it's because at
the time it made sense for like what they needed.
They needed that family unit they needed. Like some men too,
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also don't feel like anything unless they're providing in a
unit like that. So they fulfill that void. They compartmentalize,
They put to the side of things that that you know,
might seem like a hoop dream and take. You know,
it's like the eighty twenty rule and lock in, and
then things happen. They're not happy, the cheating comes in
and all of that stuff. I would rather be with
a man who's like, yo, look, I'm in a space
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right now where like I can't really give you everything.
And when I say be with the man, I mean
you can't really be with someone who's in this space.
But I mean I would rather have a man tell
me and be honest with me about Hey, right now,
I'm not in a space where like I can be
what you want me to be for you, Like I
can't be with you, I can't lock in. I'm not
Monogamy is not a thing that I'm doing right now.
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I'm not there then, leaning. So I don't understand why
we get upset at men getting to that point, because
women get there too. Like us as women, we like
like we really act like sometimes like just because a
man is a man, like we're both not like human
like as women, Yeah, I think that we do have
the tendency to lean in a little bit more, locking
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a little bit more or whatever. So it seems depending
on the man that you're dealing with. But like we
all have that time in our life where we're like, oh, okay,
like I gotta do the kids thing, It's time to
buy a crib. Okay, normal clubs, maybe just lounge just now,
you know, maybe not even lounges, maybe cute, little dinner,
little drink, a little happy hour. It's time to have them.
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Like we all have that shift in our life where
it's just like substance. I want more, I want a level?
What up? I need to do more? What's wrong would
a man be allowed about that? I don't understand it,
because when you're getting the other thing, a man who
is playing all these games, not saying much of anything.
Now now we all andressing the boy page trauma, bonding
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in the comments. So I don't really understand it. But
the girls are dragging him. So I wonder know how
y'all feel. Please go take a listen to that Waka
Flocka video. I don't know if Waka serious, why could
play so dang much? I don't really know, but take
a listen. Let me know what you think. And I
believe that Waka Flocka is actually single. Now, he did
have a little girlfriend that he was a little girlfriend,
no shade Waka. He had a girlfriend that he went
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public with a little bit for a little bit of time.
This was after Tammy. I remember they like posted photos
on like the helicopter and it was like out hookah
and all of that. But I haven't seen him post
it up or you know any of that recently. So
maybe this is him throwing his shot out there to somebody. Okay,
I don't know what is happening, but take a listen
to that video. Let me know what you guys think,
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and come on back. Matter of fact, don't even come well,
come on because we got more episodes ago. This is
the first week where we got more to go. But
tweet me at Laura le Rosa, you know, comment tag
on Instagram where you're listening to it, Screenshot the podcast
and post it because I want to see y'all. I
want to see what my listeners look like, and I
want to hear what you guys have to say. Do
you think that it is okay for a man to
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get to wait until he is at the point, well,
most men don't wait, but to get to a point
where he is ready to be like, hey, I'm ready
to lock in. I'm at this big old age of forty,
this big old age of fifty. Now I'm ready, let's
do it. The merri saying, are kids and kids or
do you feel like it's unfair to their partners? It's
because it's like you done did all this dirt and
now not their partners with their potential partners. You didn't
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did all this dirt. You didn't live your life, and
now you want to come lock me down because most
of the time too, you know they're gonna lock down
somebody younger. So let me know what y'all think. Okay,
at the end of the day, like I tell y'all
every single episode, there's always a lot to talk about.
But every single guy, every single time, you guys join
me right here to talk about it. You know I
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appreciate you. I'm Lauryn de Rosa. This is the latest
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