This episode Loren LoRosa was joined by B.Dot one of the producers from the Breakfast Club. In this discussion they speaks on the latest of Shannon Sharpe's sexual assault lawsuit, and find out he stepped down from co hosting ESPN show "First Take". They also spoke on the forever first lady Michelle Obama and her comments about her marriage with Barack Obama and wanting people to see him as a human.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
even hot?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What's up y'all? It's Lauren l Rosa. This is the
Latest with Lauren L Rosa. This show, as you know,
is your daily dig into all things pop culture and
the conversations that are really shaking the room.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Now. I'm your home gird.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It knows a bit about everything and everybody. So today
joining me and Patrick'll say hey to Patrick was good, y'all,
Brandon is here, Brandon, I don't know what you want
to get the people your Instagram.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Or like what you want to go by.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm Brandon. Instagram is d dot d dot Underscore twenty seven.
I'm not copying anybody's name. That's what they called me
since college. Yeah, and I was just highly surprised. Laurena
asked me to come on here with her today because
I was being very opinionated at work and just you know,
talk about topics.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
She's like, hey, come on the show.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I said, why not where you work at orcat
power one on one with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm a producer on the show.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, I swhear me and Lauren get our our argument.
Argument usually just give me a real dirty look. I
have to take back what I said.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So today what we do. You know, We're going to
get into a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I think you guys would love hearing from Brandon and
got to do a check in behind the scenes of
the grind. This is where we check in and we
just see, you know, how people are feeling. But the
rules with our check in are that you have to
use one word and you.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Can describe why you said that one word, but you got.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
To do it one word first, and you gotta be
real about it, Like if you're not feeling it today,
you can be like I'm down.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So we start off Patrick, how are you feeling today?
I'm feeling great. We just came back from Dell State
last night late, but we still got to it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
For those who don't know, I graduated from Delaware State University.
Love my HBCU, so I go back often, like you know,
whenever they ask me to. If I can accommodate, I
try to because I know how important it is for
the students to see somebody that's like really out here
doing things that's not like eighty years old.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Up close and personal. So I went.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
They were honoring a lot of the student athletes. They
have a lot going on with the athletic program. That
Sean Jackson is there now. He was there as well
last night. If you want to see some of that.
We did do videos, so make sure you're following me
on Instagram at Laura the Rosa YouTube where you guys
are watching this, you know, check out. It'll be on
YouTube as well too, and photos. We'll have photos posted.
So that was that was dope to be able to take,
(02:21):
you know, Patrick to my HBCU.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But Brandon, yes, how you feeling today?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Feeling activated?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yes, yes, I'm feeling activated. You know I made, you know, a.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Little hundred dollars on the stock market, so.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I'm not a financial advisor at all. I've been taking
big losses.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's why. That's why today is a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But it's like you're excited today.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But I'm glad you're feeling activated. I'm glad you're stick
it to your goal. It's summertime. You trying to have
the guns out.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, No, I.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Feel good as well too.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think because the weather is warm, I'm feeling energized,
which is ironic because we were out last night at
Dell State.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But yes, the weather is nice outside.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
My niece is here and she's gonna be at American Dreams,
so I'm gonna go ride go by and see her.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'm just up. So yes, now let's get on into
the latest.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I would say we're taking y'aut of court, but again
this hasn't even made it the court yet. But you
know your girl love to take y'aull of court. Lot
to take y'all a court. Shannon Sharp just posted a
statement to his Instagram. The statement that he posted is
actually have a screenshot of a text that he sent
to someone, so it says my statement is found here
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and this is the truth. The relationship in question was
one hundred percent consensual. At this juncture, I am electing
to step aside temporarily from my duties at ESPN. I
would be devoting this time to my family and responding
to and dealing with these false and disruptive allegations set
against me. I plan to return to ESPN at the
start of the NFL preseason. I sincerely appreciate the overwhelming
(03:58):
and ongoing support I've received from my family, fans, friends
and colleagues.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Shannon Sharp. When is NFL preseason Brandon usually.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
In the summertime, in the summer, so like around August.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So he's supposed to be over fairly quick.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could almost have predicted that this
is what was going to happen. Yeah, which is why
I had been reaching out trying to, you know, figure
out previously, like was ESPN going to make the call
or was he and not because I want to see
anybody out of a job, I think. I think in
a matter like this, it is very unfortunate that you
can't wait until something has actually been proven or disproven,
(04:37):
like guilty not guilty, Like he can't keep his job
until then. But it's just how it works with brands,
especially a brand like an ESPN Disney, because those brands
don't want, like Disney like esp the big money.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They want to stay out of the muddy waters.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And even though Shannon Sharp has not been proven guilty
of anything that has been alleged against him, it's still
a lot of conversation around the brand every single time
he gets on television on that show. Yeah, Like people
are like, well, why is why is he still there?
Last night, literally I was reading a reddit, like a
(05:13):
long conversation on Reddit, and then I saw, you know,
some conversation online on Twitter, and sad to say, the
court of public opinion matters to these brands, like they
care about what their image is, guilty or not guilty
if you're the person in question. And when I started
to see these things, that's what made me reach out
and say, hey, look, you know, because people are online
(05:34):
talking about this, I'm starting to see more stories. Because
there was a story that came out I believe it
was a Yahoo. They did this story early Tuesday morning,
the twenty third, that Shannon Sharp was not let go
from ESPN right now. Since then, there has been more
audio that has come out, There's been text messages, there's
been a lot of conversation. The photo of the woman
the accuser in question has come out. There's been a
(05:56):
lot of online discourse as well. Because all of those things,
Shannon Shart posting a video, all that stuff, it makes
it bigger, makes people talk about it more, and so
it's unfortunate, but it's not uncommon at all, and it
doesn't signal that he's guilty at all.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It could honestly be a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
What I predict that happened is ESPN needed to make
a decision for their brand, to protect their brand, to
protect their shows, and protect protect their other talent because
he's on first take with Steven Naseman, which is unfair.
It puts everybody in a very unfair position. So I
get it, and this is what happens. We were all
in here when he posted a statement that literally just happened.
What y'all think of the statement outside of it being
(06:33):
not a text from him but a text.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
To him, I think the statement is fair. I actually
thought that was a good amount of time. You said
the summertime like NFL preseason times a little soon. I
thought that's enough time to really figure out, you know,
conclude everything that's going on, or and then him come
back like a fresh slate. Hopefully he learns from this situation.
I don't know if you want to get here yet. Yeah,
(06:56):
but he seemed very like green about all this, verry
naive about having all this recorded. If he is, if
this is just a situation of him doing like BDSM
and just that type of kink they have together.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, if that's the case, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Very negligent on his behalf to just have so much
evidence that writing and audio of it there was trust there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, And that's what it is for me.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's like, you know, as this developed in the story
comes out, because even in us talking about it in
here today, I'm just trying to figure out where, like,
if there was trust there as it seems to have been,
where did that go wrong? If this is just a
case of him just you know, that's how they get off, right, I.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Mean, that's what makes it tricky, and to see like
there might be something way more to just the kink
or just text message.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's something way more on some sides.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I just wanted you to tell me because you said
that in that article mentioned in twenty twenty three to
now what else does.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
It say that they had consensual sexual activity with Jane
Doe about one hundred times in both Los Angeles and
Nevada from late twenty twenty two to January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I knew when I read the headline, I'm like, this
has to be sourced somewhere close to or you know
what I mean, something coming from Shannon Sharp's side, because
it's they're trying to you know, continue to push the
narrative of and just further expose the narrative of this
was a consensual relationship according to Shannon Shark, and in
this statement comes right after I literally reached out to
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ESPN because reports at beginning there were more reports that
begin to happen about Shannon Sharp being let go from
ESPN and them, you know what I mean, saying hey, we're.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Good off you.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So I reached out to sources close to production over
there just to figure out what's going on, Like is
this true? Because I see the reports and then people
will report that it's not true, and then I see
it again and like, what's what's up?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I need to know for myself.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And what I was told was that, you know, Shannon
Sharp at the time before he just announced that he's
stepping away, was on the it was business as usual.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He's there Monday, Tuesday, he's not there.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The rest of the week, and if anything changed, you know,
we would know. We'll have to, you know, see what happens.
But it's a long it's be a long summer.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
What do you what are your thoughts on people like
from the outside kind of showing that they've never been
on his side.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Or like everybody kind of dog piling him now with like.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Maybe the Matt Barnes audio came out the shack don
rawlins Babe Mama, Like everybody's kind of like, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Not flipping, but yeah, it's a crazy dog pole going on.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think it comes to the territory. I'm not surprised
at all.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I think more so it's like I think people kind
of think that it's funny, Like I'm seeing a lot
like there are a lot of people who are like,
he's weird as hell.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That girl is way too young.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But the jokes that people are making, I'm like, and
it's not jokes about what happened to the alleged victim.
It's more so jokes about Shannon Sharp just doing too
damn much democracy.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's like him always like kind of coming at people
for messing with younger women and making fun of them.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And he's bessing with a nineteen year old.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
At the time, early twenties took her off from I
don't know if I don't know, no nineteen when they
started though, but now she's in her early twenties.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, and there's that Cat Williams video. Let's throw that
on in here.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Just for you know, they don't want to get with
a white woman because I was scared she might have
me running down the street like Jonathan Chah.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Not because I didn't like white women.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think white women are as great as any other women.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But I'm not gonnac like.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I'm not scared of them.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I have a reason to be scared. You could be King.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
The conqueror and they could take your rabbit ass down.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
In two weekends.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
And that's the truth of the matter.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So what happens, you know what I mean, especially when
Cat Williams prediction your year.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
All right, y'all, so moving on.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
This is the reason why I got Brandon here, don't
say all me and now. So Michelle Obama has a podcast.
I've talked about her podcasts. On this podcast, I enjoyed
it so much. I'm learning so much about her. But
she's just really good at being vulnerable insurance parent, and
she has great guests.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
She had Taraji p.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Hinton on her podcast or podcast, Michelle Obama's podcast it's
called in My Opinion, So they sit down with your
talking about her career and the decisions that she's made.
And Taragi has been very vocal about the spiritual journey
that she went on. She talked about it when she
came to the Breakfast Club as well, where she's learned
a lot about herself and saying no and protecting her
peace and you know, because she was in a really
(11:14):
dark place at one point, so she's had to be
more just protective of everything. And Michelle Obama starts having
a conversation with Taraji about you know, her saying no
and her protecting her piece and her being able to
speak out for herself and be vulnerable. This led into
this conversation. Now, I remember when Michelle Obama first made
the comments, some of the comments she's referencing. Let's go
(11:36):
to the other YouTube video of her where she's sitting
down a revolt with Anjie Martinez and Kelly Rowland and
Winnnie Harlowe and all of the girls. So this is
back in December of twenty twenty two. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
But there were ten years why I couldn't stay my
husband and say that taking all years and guess when
it happened when those kids were little, right, yes, right?
Because you know you can be all great individually when
you when you're just married, you got your life, he's
got his.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You come together. It's like, oh, get.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
To see ye take it easy and then you have kids,
suck taking taking anything you're traveling, that's great. Good, I
can hang out watch the TV. I want to watch her.
The minute we had kids, it was like where are
you going and how far? And you start measuring. It's
like how many diapers did you change?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And oh you're golfing? You have time?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Oh you go?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
How you at the gym all the time? You were
right right, Well, I'm like.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's that's when all the measuring starts, because you got
this project and guess what little kids they're terrorist.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Brandon was pissed off at those comments.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm not pissed off. It's a little fresh thrating.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Listen to right So I'm listening at this one with
Angie Martinez and Kelly and the rest of the gang.
So she was like, I hated my husband ten years
and if I heard right, Edge was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like, yeah, you do say that. That's my issue.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It's like, I feel like she says it a lot,
like she takes every opportunity to tell us how much
you hated the greatest black man, what of the greatest
black men? To ever live, and it's just like, dang,
what can we do? Like, I'm sorry if I don't
have time to change diators. I'm the leader of the
free world right now. I gotta figure out, you got it?
Do this Jones strike or no golfinnes is to take
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off some of the pressure.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll go through it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's just tough. I don't I don't like, you know,
the constant you know, I feel like beating of Barack
Obama that I see on her behalf.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And it's because she talks about when things are not perfect. Yes, okay,
So I can't understand the sentimate because I have male
friends who also, you know, we have conversations about different things.
They deal with the women that they're dating, the women
that they're with, and a lot of times I get upset.
I be like, does she know how much you're going
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out of your way? And you this, you that, and
I'm you know what I mean like, and I'm going
through all the things as a friend or as a
sister because it's like I hear you doing everything you
can do and it not being enough.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And I think that's where your sentiment comes from.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Right yeah, pretty much, It's like you worked you know,
to become the president of the United States as a
black man, is like, it still kind of feel like
you're not doing enough at.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Least in the household.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Like I don't know what's going on in their marriage
per se, but it was one part where she was
like everybody says, I'm bitter for trying to humanize him.
I'm like, Yeah, why does he need to be humanized
if we have him maybe if we have him on
some type of maybe he's a symbol of hope for
a lot of people, or we put him on a pedestal.
And it's like, cause, I'm like, there's kids who literally
like growing up, they didn't think like now, I probably
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can't be president.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm black.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Like it's a simple passion. But it's like, if we
hold him in that high regard, why do you have
to bring him down and humanize him to us? Like
we know he's not perfect, but I don't think there's
a need to constantly tell us how imperfect he is.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
What I'm hearing in the second clip with Traji is
that what she learned to do was she needed to
create the space for her husband, and in doing that,
he's a human as well.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
He has flaws.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's not perfect, but he knows how to come back
and get it right. And she knew that there were
other women going through that, and I think if you,
I think she probably felt like, if I can humanize him,
then maybe y'all take it a little bit easier on him,
because y'all see, he's not perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He can't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No one's perfect just because he is that man that
you look at that I'm a little black boy or
Believen a little black girl. Now I think I can
be the president because of Barack Obama. Yes, and that's amazing,
but this means that has flaws. He's not the perfect dad,
he's not the perfect husband. He might not be the
perfect president, but he's always a trying dad, a trying president.
I think that's where it was coming from. But also too,
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I think that there's a lot of women. Kelly Rowland
instantly was I girl, you in my head, it's a
lot of people that probably could relate to that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I've hated you for ten years. Does it sound like
what you just said? You're right, I completely understand what
you're saying, But I don't know. I just feel like,
on the flip side, anytime he speaks of Michelle's it's
just positive. He writes paragraphs of how she's the greatest
woman ever. I just wish she got some of the
grades with what you's going through.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So you don't think that she ever speaks positivity of him.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No, she does, she does, she does does.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
She does take a lot of opportunities, also ejectively, because
she feels like we need to see as heside.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think men just view that type of vulnerability and
conversation differently. And don't get me wrong, it's some women
that like I don't know if I would have came
out and said I hated my man for ten years.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Only because hate somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But to her point, she said, okay, they've been together
for thirty two years. Because she also said this in
the same clip, and I've heard her say multiple times
on our podcast. Right, if someone were to tell you, okay,
you might not like this person. Out of thirty two years,
there might be ten of those years if you put
it all together, that you're not gonna like this person. Right,
But the other years you're in bliss, you're in peace,
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You're you're so in love. You gotta take the good
with the bad.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I get it, there is gonna be bad, but we
don't need to know about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Are you only saying that because he's the president or
you feel like women in general what happens at homes
just stay at home.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I think it's more so because he's the president at like,
he probably has.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
One of the hardest jobs in the country.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
As a man is dope When year girl feels like
you one of the dopest dudes out there, why can't I.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Feel like you? Dope?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But like, you really get on my nerves sometimes, Like
I really dislike you some days, but I dislike you,
but I learned how to love you through the dislike at.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Each phase of our life. Like, I think that that's human.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You think that people that are married, first of all,
do you believe that people can be married for thirty
two years and never step outside their marriage?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I haven't been. We mean to step outside? Like, look, yeah,
I think so okay, So.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
In doing that because you believe that, do you believe
that there's times within those thirty two years that those
people are going to not desire each other, not want
to be with each other, not agree. When I say
not desire, I mean physically, mentally, all of that.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I understand that it's just a platform, it's publicly. I
think we do need to hold certain people as it
was a hope. I really think that's important for.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The it's the president.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Martin Luther King's wife kept talking about how much you
cheated all the time. She said, no, the movement is
bigger than our marriage.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
She did Martin Luther King's wife. But it's also a
generation thing. She is older than Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Making recipes, so we lose a recipe.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think because it's so crazy is Michelle Obama and
Tracy Ellis Ross talked about this on the episode that
we talked about prior to this, how as the generations
come along. That's why Chercy Alice Ross was saying she
dates younger, because she was saying that like younger men
are just open to different ideas of what relationships and
the rules of engagement should be, not engagement like marriage,
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but like just how a relationship is set up. Like
we come from the era of what happens in the
house stays in the house. Right, You're not getting on
a platform talking about your men and nothing in general.
And I do for me I'm an honor that like,
especially because I'm on the like I get on the
radio every day, and even in the small relationship stuff
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that I do talk about, I'm always thinking about how
the other person will perceive that or how it can
be taken for the other person. And I can't imagine
if the world knew, you know what I mean, Like
if I had a boyfriend and y'all knew who my
boyfriend was, and he is, you know what I mean,
out here doing his thing and then he got to
run into people.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's like, oh yeah, Because Learne was just saying, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think about that, But I think the younger that
the generations get you feel a certain type of freedom
or power where it's like, it's empowering me to talk
about this because now I feel like I don't got it.
Like if Michelle Bob's ex to Barack and we catch
a little side eye, now we know I she don't
like him every day, but she loved him, And don't
say nothing to her man or to her about her man.
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She's human. It's sanity at the end of the day.
And that's what she was talking a lot about in
this episode. It's like for her mental health, she had
to learn how to say no. If I want to
talk about what goes on because it helps me to
feel human and it helps the world to see him
as a human, I gotta do it. And I'm not
angry bitter because of it. Is there anything else you
want to yell at black women about today? So I
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don't want to yell by outside of our household.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't like whatever specific thing, you know what I mean?
And I do want to acknowledge she probably went through
a lot, and we talked about it for you. You
yelled at me again that you know, she probably had
that hard like put having to put her career on
this side, and it's soly be a mother and being
the public eye, and she maybe wasn't ready for a
lot of the things. So I'm not even downplaying everything
she went through.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I just do you feel like men's feelings are equally
considered in relationships and marriages?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And it's not all on y'all either, Like we we
downplay our feelings a lot too, So y'all wouldn't even
think we better end it all? But uh no, it's
not I don't think so I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Pick up on it more now.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And that's why to me, when I hear her talking
about human eyesing Barack, I feel like it's almost like
a method of protection, Like I want you to see
him as the person and I see him as so
that you can, yeah, so that he can get some
empathy because he needs it, because he probably goes through
so much behind the scenes trying to keep things together.
Y'all have to think about y'all feelings first, we think
about her last, we think about our feelings first.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I don't know, crying, the thought like crying for the
girl feels crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You never cried with any of your girlfriends or you're
like girls you were talking to.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I was in the bathroom, the closest away from the door.
I came outside, but.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Brandon, Brandon tried to put water on his face. When
he came out, he was just like, yeah face, Yeah,
then that's crazy. I don't want my man had to
go and cry in the bathroom. I want you to
be human. I want you to be vulnerable. I want
you to be you know, all of these things with reason, though, like.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Here we go, here we go, the reason would.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You say, Patrick, Yeah, no, now with a condition.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But just like, Okay, what's the list of things I
can't cry about?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Wait if you send your man cry watching the movie?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But my man would laugh at me crying at a movie,
So why can't I laugh at him? Like it would
be funny, Like it'd be like, oh, look at you,
and I would laugh. But when I said with the reason,
I just mean like I don't want you to be
so emotional that it's like a you're not even a hindrance,
but like you're emotionally unstable, you know what I mean?
Where like have you ever dated somebody or dealt with
people where it's like like, yes, granted, things should have emotion,
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you should be able to feel, you should be able
to be a person. But sometimes it's just like WHOA
did this equal all of that? Like that type of thing,
Like I want you to be able to feel and
all of that, but I don't want I don't want
to be your emotional punching back is what I'm saying.
And I think sometimes when you create space and create
room for things, I just don't ever want it to
(22:56):
be miscommunicated because I don't want to. I don't want
to punch it back nobody else, Like if I'm having
a day, You're not gonna have a bad day because
I'm having a bad day. It is what I'm saying,
So like emotion, but us knowing how to like navigate
each other's emotions so that I'm helping you through it
or I'm at least supporting you through it, even if
it's just like I'm sitting there in silence and we
just like scrolling on our phones like they're like, you know,
I'm just you called me, you need to talk, and
(23:16):
I'm just listening, but not like, okay, now you're throwing
dark that darts my way because it's something you experience
because you know I'm there for you, And I don't
think that it should be the other way around either.
I don't think that it should be like that with
women as well. And I've done that in my past
as well too.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So I'm being.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Accountable or whatever. But leave Michelle about my alone brand
and keep her name much of my own.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I think very highly of Michelle about I just wish, well,
we're gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
You on that.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And wrapping it up, what have we learned from today, y'all?
This is the part where we kind of summarize everything
that we have been talking about into like one overall,
Like all right, here's here's today's takeaway. So we went
from Shannon Club to Michelle Obama and Obama Household.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What do we learn today?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
You know, y'all really can learn how to control yourself,
Like that's ridiculous. One of the things you're doing is ridiculous.
Or if you really need to get that off, you
gotta be more disagreet with it. But it's ridiculous, Michelle Obama.
What I've learned from that is like, from what you're
saying is like the other side of it, the grace.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You know she may need and why she's lashing.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Out, lashing out while she's.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Expressed herself in these ways.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But yeah, I think there's different things you learn from
both the stories we talked about.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What I learned from all of this is there should
be a golden rule, and I think that there probably
is one. I just don't know the quote for, but
it should be golden to be able to protect your peace,
your household, your reputation, your brand, just like how you're
interacting with people and how you deal with an impression
that you leave when the people you interact with and
like how that echo into the world. So I don't
know what went down with Shannon Sharp with and this
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girl or what didn't go down, but something wasn't protected
somewhere on someone's side, and now we're getting all of
this like and it's it's it's it's not good. And
I think that you know, just learning how to protect
everything you've worked for. But that's I don't know. That's
kind of crazy to say, because if if on the
(25:23):
other side, like if what she's alleging is true, like
if right, yeah, there's no way that you yeah, no, no, no,
because there's no way that you know, you don't you
don't go somewhere like not trying to protect yourself from
things like sexual assault. So I don't know, its crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But no, you should definitely, I don't know to say anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't I don't know if I don't know if
I've learned anything from Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So I'm gonna just leave that there. I think that
that's just I'm gonna just leave it there.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
But as far as Michelle Obama, while I tweeted this thing,
he tweeted he said, too much exposure invites entitlement and
too much access disrespect. When people feel they can reach
you at any time, see you everywhere, and speak to
you however they want, they begin to forget your value.
Mystery protects respect, boundaries protect peace, and I think I
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think that it goes to your point of what you're
saying about Michelle Obama and how she speaks out about
certain things that go into you know what I mean. Yeah,
But I also think that it speaks to what she's
trying to say as well too. She's managing how people
deal with her so that they deal with her in
a way that is respectful and according in a line
to you know, where her mental was at.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So that is it. That is all. But we had
a good time, Brandon, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Had a great time.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Also, I probably didn't expressed myself in the best way
of this episode.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But then you gotta come back. You gotta come back,
You gotta come back. So this has been the latest
with Laura l Rosa. I am Laura l Rosa, your
homegrowl that knows a bit about everything. And everybody tell you,
guys this every time because I want you to know
I mean it. At the end of the day, you
guys could be anywhere with anybody, because it'd be a
lot going down talking about all this stuff. But y'all
used to be right here with me every single episode,
(26:59):
and for that I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Guys. I will see you in my next episode.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
even hot?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What's up y'all? It's Lauren l Rosa. This is the
Latest with Lauren L Rosa. This show, as you know,
is your daily dig into all things pop culture and
the conversations that are really shaking the room.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Now. I'm your home gird.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It knows a bit about everything and everybody. So today
joining me and Patrick'll say hey to Patrick was good, y'all,
Brandon is here, Brandon, I don't know what you want
to get the people your Instagram.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Or like what you want to go by.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm Brandon. Instagram is d dot d dot Underscore twenty seven.
I'm not copying anybody's name. That's what they called me
since college. Yeah, and I was just highly surprised. Laurena
asked me to come on here with her today because
I was being very opinionated at work and just you know,
talk about topics.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
She's like, hey, come on the show.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I said, why not where you work at orcat
power one on one with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm a producer on the show.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, I swhear me and Lauren get our our argument.
Argument usually just give me a real dirty look. I
have to take back what I said.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So today what we do. You know, We're going to
get into a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I think you guys would love hearing from Brandon and
got to do a check in behind the scenes of
the grind. This is where we check in and we
just see, you know, how people are feeling. But the
rules with our check in are that you have to
use one word and you.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Can describe why you said that one word, but you got.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
To do it one word first, and you gotta be
real about it, Like if you're not feeling it today,
you can be like I'm down.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So we start off Patrick, how are you feeling today?
I'm feeling great. We just came back from Dell State
last night late, but we still got to it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
For those who don't know, I graduated from Delaware State University.
Love my HBCU, so I go back often, like you know,
whenever they ask me to. If I can accommodate, I
try to because I know how important it is for
the students to see somebody that's like really out here
doing things that's not like eighty years old.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Up close and personal. So I went.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
They were honoring a lot of the student athletes. They
have a lot going on with the athletic program. That
Sean Jackson is there now. He was there as well
last night. If you want to see some of that.
We did do videos, so make sure you're following me
on Instagram at Laura the Rosa YouTube where you guys
are watching this, you know, check out. It'll be on
YouTube as well too, and photos. We'll have photos posted.
So that was that was dope to be able to take,
(02:21):
you know, Patrick to my HBCU.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But Brandon, yes, how you feeling today?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Feeling activated?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yes, yes, I'm feeling activated. You know I made, you know, a.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Little hundred dollars on the stock market, so.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I'm not a financial advisor at all. I've been taking
big losses.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's why. That's why today is a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But it's like you're excited today.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But I'm glad you're feeling activated. I'm glad you're stick
it to your goal. It's summertime. You trying to have
the guns out.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, No, I.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Feel good as well too.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think because the weather is warm, I'm feeling energized,
which is ironic because we were out last night at
Dell State.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But yes, the weather is nice outside.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
My niece is here and she's gonna be at American Dreams,
so I'm gonna go ride go by and see her.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'm just up. So yes, now let's get on into
the latest.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I would say we're taking y'aut of court, but again
this hasn't even made it the court yet. But you
know your girl love to take y'aull of court. Lot
to take y'all a court. Shannon Sharp just posted a
statement to his Instagram. The statement that he posted is
actually have a screenshot of a text that he sent
to someone, so it says my statement is found here
(03:35):
and this is the truth. The relationship in question was
one hundred percent consensual. At this juncture, I am electing
to step aside temporarily from my duties at ESPN. I
would be devoting this time to my family and responding
to and dealing with these false and disruptive allegations set
against me. I plan to return to ESPN at the
start of the NFL preseason. I sincerely appreciate the overwhelming
(03:58):
and ongoing support I've received from my family, fans, friends
and colleagues.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Shannon Sharp. When is NFL preseason Brandon usually.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
In the summertime, in the summer, so like around August.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So he's supposed to be over fairly quick.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could almost have predicted that this
is what was going to happen. Yeah, which is why
I had been reaching out trying to, you know, figure
out previously, like was ESPN going to make the call
or was he and not because I want to see
anybody out of a job, I think. I think in
a matter like this, it is very unfortunate that you
can't wait until something has actually been proven or disproven,
(04:37):
like guilty not guilty, Like he can't keep his job
until then. But it's just how it works with brands,
especially a brand like an ESPN Disney, because those brands
don't want, like Disney like esp the big money.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They want to stay out of the muddy waters.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And even though Shannon Sharp has not been proven guilty
of anything that has been alleged against him, it's still
a lot of conversation around the brand every single time
he gets on television on that show. Yeah, Like people
are like, well, why is why is he still there?
Last night, literally I was reading a reddit, like a
(05:13):
long conversation on Reddit, and then I saw, you know,
some conversation online on Twitter, and sad to say, the
court of public opinion matters to these brands, like they
care about what their image is, guilty or not guilty
if you're the person in question. And when I started
to see these things, that's what made me reach out
and say, hey, look, you know, because people are online
(05:34):
talking about this, I'm starting to see more stories. Because
there was a story that came out I believe it
was a Yahoo. They did this story early Tuesday morning,
the twenty third, that Shannon Sharp was not let go
from ESPN right now. Since then, there has been more
audio that has come out, There's been text messages, there's
been a lot of conversation. The photo of the woman
the accuser in question has come out. There's been a
(05:56):
lot of online discourse as well. Because all of those things,
Shannon Shart posting a video, all that stuff, it makes
it bigger, makes people talk about it more, and so
it's unfortunate, but it's not uncommon at all, and it
doesn't signal that he's guilty at all.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It could honestly be a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
What I predict that happened is ESPN needed to make
a decision for their brand, to protect their brand, to
protect their shows, and protect protect their other talent because
he's on first take with Steven Naseman, which is unfair.
It puts everybody in a very unfair position. So I
get it, and this is what happens. We were all
in here when he posted a statement that literally just happened.
What y'all think of the statement outside of it being
(06:33):
not a text from him but a text.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
To him, I think the statement is fair. I actually
thought that was a good amount of time. You said
the summertime like NFL preseason times a little soon. I
thought that's enough time to really figure out, you know,
conclude everything that's going on, or and then him come
back like a fresh slate. Hopefully he learns from this situation.
I don't know if you want to get here yet. Yeah,
(06:56):
but he seemed very like green about all this, verry
naive about having all this recorded. If he is, if
this is just a situation of him doing like BDSM
and just that type of kink they have together.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, if that's the case, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Very negligent on his behalf to just have so much
evidence that writing and audio of it there was trust there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, And that's what it is for me.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's like, you know, as this developed in the story
comes out, because even in us talking about it in
here today, I'm just trying to figure out where, like,
if there was trust there as it seems to have been,
where did that go wrong? If this is just a
case of him just you know, that's how they get off, right, I.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Mean, that's what makes it tricky, and to see like
there might be something way more to just the kink
or just text message.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's something way more on some sides.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I just wanted you to tell me because you said
that in that article mentioned in twenty twenty three to
now what else does.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
It say that they had consensual sexual activity with Jane
Doe about one hundred times in both Los Angeles and
Nevada from late twenty twenty two to January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I knew when I read the headline, I'm like, this
has to be sourced somewhere close to or you know
what I mean, something coming from Shannon Sharp's side, because
it's they're trying to you know, continue to push the
narrative of and just further expose the narrative of this
was a consensual relationship according to Shannon Shark, and in
this statement comes right after I literally reached out to
(08:20):
ESPN because reports at beginning there were more reports that
begin to happen about Shannon Sharp being let go from
ESPN and them, you know what I mean, saying hey, we're.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Good off you.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So I reached out to sources close to production over
there just to figure out what's going on, Like is
this true? Because I see the reports and then people
will report that it's not true, and then I see
it again and like, what's what's up?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I need to know for myself.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And what I was told was that, you know, Shannon
Sharp at the time before he just announced that he's
stepping away, was on the it was business as usual.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
He's there Monday, Tuesday, he's not there.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The rest of the week, and if anything changed, you know,
we would know. We'll have to, you know, see what happens.
But it's a long it's be a long summer.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
What do you what are your thoughts on people like
from the outside kind of showing that they've never been
on his side.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Or like everybody kind of dog piling him now with like.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Maybe the Matt Barnes audio came out the shack don
rawlins Babe Mama, Like everybody's kind of like, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Not flipping, but yeah, it's a crazy dog pole going on.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think it comes to the territory. I'm not surprised
at all.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I think more so it's like I think people kind
of think that it's funny, Like I'm seeing a lot
like there are a lot of people who are like,
he's weird as hell.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That girl is way too young.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But the jokes that people are making, I'm like, and
it's not jokes about what happened to the alleged victim.
It's more so jokes about Shannon Sharp just doing too
damn much democracy.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's like him always like kind of coming at people
for messing with younger women and making fun of them.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And he's bessing with a nineteen year old.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
At the time, early twenties took her off from I
don't know if I don't know, no nineteen when they
started though, but now she's in her early twenties.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, and there's that Cat Williams video. Let's throw that
on in here.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Just for you know, they don't want to get with
a white woman because I was scared she might have
me running down the street like Jonathan Chah.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Not because I didn't like white women.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think white women are as great as any other women.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But I'm not gonnac like.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I'm not scared of them.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I have a reason to be scared. You could be King.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
The conqueror and they could take your rabbit ass down.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
In two weekends.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
And that's the truth of the matter.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So what happens, you know what I mean, especially when
Cat Williams prediction your year.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
All right, y'all, so moving on.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
This is the reason why I got Brandon here, don't
say all me and now. So Michelle Obama has a podcast.
I've talked about her podcasts. On this podcast, I enjoyed
it so much. I'm learning so much about her. But
she's just really good at being vulnerable insurance parent, and
she has great guests.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
She had Taraji p.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Hinton on her podcast or podcast, Michelle Obama's podcast it's
called in My Opinion, So they sit down with your
talking about her career and the decisions that she's made.
And Taragi has been very vocal about the spiritual journey
that she went on. She talked about it when she
came to the Breakfast Club as well, where she's learned
a lot about herself and saying no and protecting her
peace and you know, because she was in a really
(11:14):
dark place at one point, so she's had to be
more just protective of everything. And Michelle Obama starts having
a conversation with Taraji about you know, her saying no
and her protecting her piece and her being able to
speak out for herself and be vulnerable. This led into
this conversation. Now, I remember when Michelle Obama first made
the comments, some of the comments she's referencing. Let's go
(11:36):
to the other YouTube video of her where she's sitting
down a revolt with Anjie Martinez and Kelly Rowland and
Winnnie Harlowe and all of the girls. So this is
back in December of twenty twenty two. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
But there were ten years why I couldn't stay my
husband and say that taking all years and guess when
it happened when those kids were little, right, yes, right?
Because you know you can be all great individually when
you when you're just married, you got your life, he's
got his.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You come together. It's like, oh, get.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
To see ye take it easy and then you have kids,
suck taking taking anything you're traveling, that's great. Good, I
can hang out watch the TV. I want to watch her.
The minute we had kids, it was like where are
you going and how far? And you start measuring. It's
like how many diapers did you change?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And oh you're golfing? You have time?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Oh you go?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
How you at the gym all the time? You were
right right, Well, I'm like.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's that's when all the measuring starts, because you got
this project and guess what little kids they're terrorist.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Brandon was pissed off at those comments.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm not pissed off. It's a little fresh thrating.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Listen to right So I'm listening at this one with
Angie Martinez and Kelly and the rest of the gang.
So she was like, I hated my husband ten years
and if I heard right, Edge was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like, yeah, you do say that. That's my issue.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It's like, I feel like she says it a lot,
like she takes every opportunity to tell us how much
you hated the greatest black man, what of the greatest
black men? To ever live, and it's just like, dang,
what can we do? Like, I'm sorry if I don't
have time to change diators. I'm the leader of the
free world right now. I gotta figure out, you got it?
Do this Jones strike or no golfinnes is to take
(13:23):
off some of the pressure.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll go through it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's just tough. I don't I don't like, you know,
the constant you know, I feel like beating of Barack
Obama that I see on her behalf.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And it's because she talks about when things are not perfect. Yes, okay,
So I can't understand the sentimate because I have male
friends who also, you know, we have conversations about different things.
They deal with the women that they're dating, the women
that they're with, and a lot of times I get upset.
I be like, does she know how much you're going
(13:59):
out of your way? And you this, you that, and
I'm you know what I mean like, and I'm going
through all the things as a friend or as a
sister because it's like I hear you doing everything you
can do and it not being enough.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And I think that's where your sentiment comes from.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Right yeah, pretty much, It's like you worked you know,
to become the president of the United States as a
black man, is like, it still kind of feel like
you're not doing enough at.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Least in the household.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Like I don't know what's going on in their marriage
per se, but it was one part where she was
like everybody says, I'm bitter for trying to humanize him.
I'm like, Yeah, why does he need to be humanized
if we have him maybe if we have him on
some type of maybe he's a symbol of hope for
a lot of people, or we put him on a pedestal.
And it's like, cause, I'm like, there's kids who literally
like growing up, they didn't think like now, I probably
(14:41):
can't be president.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm black.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Like it's a simple passion. But it's like, if we
hold him in that high regard, why do you have
to bring him down and humanize him to us? Like
we know he's not perfect, but I don't think there's
a need to constantly tell us how imperfect he is.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
What I'm hearing in the second clip with Traji is
that what she learned to do was she needed to
create the space for her husband, and in doing that,
he's a human as well.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
He has flaws.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's not perfect, but he knows how to come back
and get it right. And she knew that there were
other women going through that, and I think if you,
I think she probably felt like, if I can humanize him,
then maybe y'all take it a little bit easier on him,
because y'all see, he's not perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He can't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No one's perfect just because he is that man that
you look at that I'm a little black boy or
Believen a little black girl. Now I think I can
be the president because of Barack Obama. Yes, and that's amazing,
but this means that has flaws. He's not the perfect dad,
he's not the perfect husband. He might not be the
perfect president, but he's always a trying dad, a trying president.
I think that's where it was coming from. But also too,
(15:40):
I think that there's a lot of women. Kelly Rowland
instantly was I girl, you in my head, it's a
lot of people that probably could relate to that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I've hated you for ten years. Does it sound like
what you just said? You're right, I completely understand what
you're saying, But I don't know. I just feel like,
on the flip side, anytime he speaks of Michelle's it's
just positive. He writes paragraphs of how she's the greatest
woman ever. I just wish she got some of the
grades with what you's going through.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So you don't think that she ever speaks positivity of him.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No, she does, she does, she does does.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
She does take a lot of opportunities, also ejectively, because
she feels like we need to see as heside.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think men just view that type of vulnerability and
conversation differently. And don't get me wrong, it's some women
that like I don't know if I would have came
out and said I hated my man for ten years.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Only because hate somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But to her point, she said, okay, they've been together
for thirty two years. Because she also said this in
the same clip, and I've heard her say multiple times
on our podcast. Right, if someone were to tell you, okay,
you might not like this person. Out of thirty two years,
there might be ten of those years if you put
it all together, that you're not gonna like this person. Right,
But the other years you're in bliss, you're in peace,
(16:51):
You're you're so in love. You gotta take the good
with the bad.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I get it, there is gonna be bad, but we
don't need to know about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Are you only saying that because he's the president or
you feel like women in general what happens at homes
just stay at home.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I think it's more so because he's the president at like,
he probably has.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
One of the hardest jobs in the country.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
As a man is dope When year girl feels like
you one of the dopest dudes out there, why can't I.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Feel like you? Dope?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But like, you really get on my nerves sometimes, Like
I really dislike you some days, but I dislike you,
but I learned how to love you through the dislike at.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Each phase of our life. Like, I think that that's human.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You think that people that are married, first of all,
do you believe that people can be married for thirty
two years and never step outside their marriage?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I haven't been. We mean to step outside? Like, look, yeah,
I think so okay, So.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
In doing that because you believe that, do you believe
that there's times within those thirty two years that those
people are going to not desire each other, not want
to be with each other, not agree. When I say
not desire, I mean physically, mentally, all of that.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I understand that it's just a platform, it's publicly. I
think we do need to hold certain people as it
was a hope. I really think that's important for.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The it's the president.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Martin Luther King's wife kept talking about how much you
cheated all the time. She said, no, the movement is
bigger than our marriage.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
She did Martin Luther King's wife. But it's also a
generation thing. She is older than Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Making recipes, so we lose a recipe.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think because it's so crazy is Michelle Obama and
Tracy Ellis Ross talked about this on the episode that
we talked about prior to this, how as the generations
come along. That's why Chercy Alice Ross was saying she
dates younger, because she was saying that like younger men
are just open to different ideas of what relationships and
the rules of engagement should be, not engagement like marriage,
(18:51):
but like just how a relationship is set up. Like
we come from the era of what happens in the
house stays in the house. Right, You're not getting on
a platform talking about your men and nothing in general.
And I do for me I'm an honor that like,
especially because I'm on the like I get on the
radio every day, and even in the small relationship stuff
(19:12):
that I do talk about, I'm always thinking about how
the other person will perceive that or how it can
be taken for the other person. And I can't imagine
if the world knew, you know what I mean, Like
if I had a boyfriend and y'all knew who my
boyfriend was, and he is, you know what I mean,
out here doing his thing and then he got to
run into people.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's like, oh yeah, Because Learne was just saying, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think about that, But I think the younger that
the generations get you feel a certain type of freedom
or power where it's like, it's empowering me to talk
about this because now I feel like I don't got it.
Like if Michelle Bob's ex to Barack and we catch
a little side eye, now we know I she don't
like him every day, but she loved him, And don't
say nothing to her man or to her about her man.
(19:53):
She's human. It's sanity at the end of the day.
And that's what she was talking a lot about in
this episode. It's like for her mental health, she had
to learn how to say no. If I want to
talk about what goes on because it helps me to
feel human and it helps the world to see him
as a human, I gotta do it. And I'm not
angry bitter because of it. Is there anything else you
want to yell at black women about today? So I
(20:14):
don't want to yell by outside of our household.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't like whatever specific thing, you know what I mean?
And I do want to acknowledge she probably went through
a lot, and we talked about it for you. You
yelled at me again that you know, she probably had
that hard like put having to put her career on
this side, and it's soly be a mother and being
the public eye, and she maybe wasn't ready for a
lot of the things. So I'm not even downplaying everything
she went through.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I just do you feel like men's feelings are equally
considered in relationships and marriages?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And it's not all on y'all either, Like we we
downplay our feelings a lot too, So y'all wouldn't even
think we better end it all? But uh no, it's
not I don't think so I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Pick up on it more now.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And that's why to me, when I hear her talking
about human eyesing Barack, I feel like it's almost like
a method of protection, Like I want you to see
him as the person and I see him as so
that you can, yeah, so that he can get some
empathy because he needs it, because he probably goes through
so much behind the scenes trying to keep things together.
Y'all have to think about y'all feelings first, we think
about her last, we think about our feelings first.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I don't know, crying, the thought like crying for the
girl feels crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You never cried with any of your girlfriends or you're
like girls you were talking to.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I was in the bathroom, the closest away from the door.
I came outside, but.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Brandon, Brandon tried to put water on his face. When
he came out, he was just like, yeah face, Yeah,
then that's crazy. I don't want my man had to
go and cry in the bathroom. I want you to
be human. I want you to be vulnerable. I want
you to be you know, all of these things with reason, though, like.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Here we go, here we go, the reason would.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You say, Patrick, Yeah, no, now with a condition.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But just like, Okay, what's the list of things I
can't cry about?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Wait if you send your man cry watching the movie?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But my man would laugh at me crying at a movie,
So why can't I laugh at him? Like it would
be funny, Like it'd be like, oh, look at you,
and I would laugh. But when I said with the reason,
I just mean like I don't want you to be
so emotional that it's like a you're not even a hindrance,
but like you're emotionally unstable, you know what I mean?
Where like have you ever dated somebody or dealt with
people where it's like like, yes, granted, things should have emotion,
(22:36):
you should be able to feel, you should be able
to be a person. But sometimes it's just like WHOA
did this equal all of that? Like that type of thing,
Like I want you to be able to feel and
all of that, but I don't want I don't want
to be your emotional punching back is what I'm saying.
And I think sometimes when you create space and create
room for things, I just don't ever want it to
(22:56):
be miscommunicated because I don't want to. I don't want
to punch it back nobody else, Like if I'm having
a day, You're not gonna have a bad day because
I'm having a bad day. It is what I'm saying,
So like emotion, but us knowing how to like navigate
each other's emotions so that I'm helping you through it
or I'm at least supporting you through it, even if
it's just like I'm sitting there in silence and we
just like scrolling on our phones like they're like, you know,
I'm just you called me, you need to talk, and
(23:16):
I'm just listening, but not like, okay, now you're throwing
dark that darts my way because it's something you experience
because you know I'm there for you, And I don't
think that it should be the other way around either.
I don't think that it should be like that with
women as well. And I've done that in my past
as well too.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So I'm being.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Accountable or whatever. But leave Michelle about my alone brand
and keep her name much of my own.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I think very highly of Michelle about I just wish, well,
we're gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
You on that.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And wrapping it up, what have we learned from today, y'all?
This is the part where we kind of summarize everything
that we have been talking about into like one overall,
Like all right, here's here's today's takeaway. So we went
from Shannon Club to Michelle Obama and Obama Household.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What do we learn today?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
You know, y'all really can learn how to control yourself,
Like that's ridiculous. One of the things you're doing is ridiculous.
Or if you really need to get that off, you
gotta be more disagreet with it. But it's ridiculous, Michelle Obama.
What I've learned from that is like, from what you're
saying is like the other side of it, the grace.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You know she may need and why she's lashing.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Out, lashing out while she's.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Expressed herself in these ways.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But yeah, I think there's different things you learn from
both the stories we talked about.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What I learned from all of this is there should
be a golden rule, and I think that there probably
is one. I just don't know the quote for, but
it should be golden to be able to protect your peace,
your household, your reputation, your brand, just like how you're
interacting with people and how you deal with an impression
that you leave when the people you interact with and
like how that echo into the world. So I don't
know what went down with Shannon Sharp with and this
(25:02):
girl or what didn't go down, but something wasn't protected
somewhere on someone's side, and now we're getting all of
this like and it's it's it's it's not good. And
I think that you know, just learning how to protect
everything you've worked for. But that's I don't know. That's
kind of crazy to say, because if if on the
(25:23):
other side, like if what she's alleging is true, like
if right, yeah, there's no way that you yeah, no, no, no,
because there's no way that you know, you don't you
don't go somewhere like not trying to protect yourself from
things like sexual assault. So I don't know, its crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But no, you should definitely, I don't know to say anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't I don't know if I don't know if
I've learned anything from Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So I'm gonna just leave that there. I think that
that's just I'm gonna just leave it there.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
But as far as Michelle Obama, while I tweeted this thing,
he tweeted he said, too much exposure invites entitlement and
too much access disrespect. When people feel they can reach
you at any time, see you everywhere, and speak to
you however they want, they begin to forget your value.
Mystery protects respect, boundaries protect peace, and I think I
(26:13):
think that it goes to your point of what you're
saying about Michelle Obama and how she speaks out about
certain things that go into you know what I mean. Yeah,
But I also think that it speaks to what she's
trying to say as well too. She's managing how people
deal with her so that they deal with her in
a way that is respectful and according in a line
to you know, where her mental was at.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So that is it. That is all. But we had
a good time, Brandon, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Had a great time.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Also, I probably didn't expressed myself in the best way
of this episode.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But then you gotta come back. You gotta come back,
You gotta come back. So this has been the latest
with Laura l Rosa. I am Laura l Rosa, your
homegrowl that knows a bit about everything. And everybody tell you,
guys this every time because I want you to know
I mean it. At the end of the day, you
guys could be anywhere with anybody, because it'd be a
lot going down talking about all this stuff. But y'all
used to be right here with me every single episode,
(26:59):
and for that I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Guys. I will see you in my next episode.
Host
Loren LoRosa
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