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Yes, y'all, So the studio that we've been shooting out of,
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So we really appreciate you and all hip hop y'all know,
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do things a bit differently, all though they will feel
the same. There's a lot happening literally right now in
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the news for guarding shann and Sharp. So we're gonna
talk there for the show today, and because we have guests,
I want to make sure they get, you know, their
time and their opinions, and so that'll be the only
topic that we cover. But before we get to all
of that madness, how y'all feeling, how's everybody's days? How
are you for real? Like when we ask that this
is you know, the behind the scenes of the grind
(02:26):
check it.
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That's a deep question. I don't know if I can
answer that right now. But you know, we've been rocking
for a minute, me and Wonder Impact, and we've been
on this track for a long time. That said that said,
I ran six miles yesterday. I'm training for a half
marathon in the fall, so I'm really getting my endurance
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up for life as well as running. So I'm good.
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Is it true that y'all really use the bathroom on
y'rselves at the end of the maria You ever heard that?
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No, I actually ran a full marathon and I had
to do the use the bathroom in the middle of
the marathon, and that is no fun.
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You'll use the bathroom on yourselves when you're running.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
No no, no, no, no no, not your boy, no,
not me.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Wonder what about you? How you feeling today?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Feeling good, New York. The well is finally breaking.
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Good.
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Everybody's head woke up this morning. We got the cameras rolling.
Everything's lovely. Got no complaint.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I love that. No complaints.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's a first.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh, you be complaining. What's your sign?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But you know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
What's your sign? Wonder? Okay, yeah, y'all complaining y'all very stubborn,
very stubborn. Yeah, I dated a tourist slid. Yes, very solid,
loyal people. All the tourists that I know are very solid,
very loyal. But once y'all stuck on something, baby, all stuck. Okay,
stuck and it's up. Well, it is really nice in
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New York today. It is like eighty degrees outside. So
I'm feeling great. I'm feeling energized, and I'm actually excited
to have guests today for this topic, especially male guests,
because I think a lot of times I'm in here talking,
Patrick never interrupts me, he never, He just let me go.
I'll be Robbling. Yes, but I think on a topic
like this where we're talking about Shannon Sharp and you know,
(04:25):
everything that's surrounding him right now with the sexual assault
and rape allegations, I'm excited to have a male perspective
or male perspectives on the show. So let's get on
into the latest. You know your girl love to take
y'all a court, A lot to take y'all a court.
Now the latest with Shannon Sharp. There is a ton
of things. As I was preparing to be on my
(04:48):
way here to the studio, Shannon Sharp actually spoke out
on everything that is happening again. He released a written
statement a day or so ago, but he released a
video today. Before we get to the video, I want
to play an audio that was released by TMZ literally,
I would say maybe fifteen minutes before Shannon Sharp posted
(05:11):
his video statement. Let's take a listen to this audio
that TMZ released of Shannon Shark.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I say, You're just gonna like get mad at and
you're just gonna hang up on me.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So I feel like I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Not letting up on you. Here's what it is?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Who?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yet?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You want to be a dick to me now, so
I don't want to be don't manipulate me.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I don't know that mercy.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
If you said that one one more time, I'll will
fucking chump.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
This shit out of you when I see it. I
don't want to be true.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
At the end of that audio, he says, I don't
think you have a choice in the matter. Now, that
audio was released for some background context this morning when
I was reporting the story on Breakfast Club. If you
guys have went and listened to those clips, you will
remember this. If not, I'm gonna briefly just talk about
what we talked about here because it adds context to
why this audio was released. So last night I reached
(06:12):
out to Tony Busby, who is the attorney for the
alleged victim, and I said to him, Hey, there is
this statement now from Shanna Sharp. In the statement, he
directly names the woman. The woman when she filed the
lawsuit was listed as a Jaine Doe. We talked about
on that on yesterday's episode. Right, So normally when you're
listened as a Jaine Doe, it's done for multiple reasons,
(06:32):
of course, to protect your identity. Normally a high profile
cases like this, it's because the woman is saying, Hey,
I don't want people to know who I am, because
I don't want retaliation. It will get publicized, like I
don't want to be a focal point of the media
or of conversation. I just want to file my claim
and go about my business. You do have people that
feel like if a person is suing someone for something
(06:54):
as serious as sexual assault, rape, whatever the case may be,
a Jane Doe should not be allowed a lot of
times in these cases, like we've seen it in Puff's case.
In other cases, the person that the accusations are being
thrown on will go to court and say, yo, Judge,
this person's identity need to be revealed. The judge will
determine that right. But a judge determines that when Shannon
Sharp released his statement in response to all of the allegations,
(07:16):
just the overall lawsuit being filed Monday, he revealed this
woman's name in that statement. When I saw that, I said, oh,
her attorneys. He kind of just like played into their
hand a little bit. And I don't know why and
what the thinking was behind that, but that is in
my opinion, if I was an attorney for a Shannon Sharp,
a high profile x NFL Hall of Famer at the
(07:40):
height of his career. I would not put a woman's
name out there. I would allow a judge to make
that decision, but it was done. So once that was done,
I reached out and I said, hey, Attorney bus we
have a couple questions. Number one, the time of this
is odd. You can't ignore that. People feel like the
one hundred million dollar podcast deal conversation happened and boom,
here comes to sexual assault. What's up with that? He
said to me. We had been negotiating, not negotiating. We
(08:02):
had been in conversation with Shannon Sharp's legal team since February.
There was a many mediation conversation that had happened. Tony
Busby says that Shannon Sharp threw money their way, that
the woman in question did not accept the offer, and
she moved forward with found the lawsuit. I also asked, now,
(08:23):
I will say Shannon Sharp's attorney center that is not true,
that it didn't go that way. I also asked him,
you know, what was their response to now her identity
being out there because they originally found as Shane do
you could tell that Tony Buzzby was not happy with
that whatsoever. There was also a video that Shannon Sharp
talked about in his statement where he said, hey, there's
(08:43):
this video. The video may come out. The video is
going to be edited. According to what he's saying, he's
a legend that the video is edited in a way
to make whatever sexual act they were involved in looked
non consensual when it was consensual. He admits that there
are things that they would do while having sex with
each other that were asked from this woman, but it
was all consensual. But these are things I'm assuming it's
(09:05):
maybe like role play, stuff like that that can be
if taken out of context, it'll look crazy. So he
kind of was given like a full warning. And he
says that that video was presented to him in this conversation.
It's meeting that his attorneys had and it was used
as blackmail. These are his words. It was used as blackmail,
and he was like, we're not gonna stand for this.
Right fast forward to today. This morning, I was able
(09:31):
to speak to Shannon Sharp's attorney. Shannon Sharp's attorney then
let me know a few things. He said that number one, yes,
Shannon Sharp's prior attorneys did see this video, but they
do not believe they saw the video in full. Shannon
Sharp did not see the video, but the attorneys, from
what this new attorney is saying to me, they asked
for the full video to be able to take it.
(09:53):
They wanted to take it to an expert to make
sure that it was full and in full context, and
they were told, no, you cannot receive this full video.
That is what they're like, s had Tony Buzby said
to them. They're also saying that that whole mediation, sit
down conversation that happened because Tony Busby approached them to
do so and they asked for a certain amount of money.
(10:13):
He told me that it was a thousands of thousands,
that it was millions of dollars, and that at the
time Shannon Sharp said, no, like, we're not doing this.
This is a shakedown. I'm not going lean into this.
We'll handle this up in another way. But Shannon Sharp's team,
they're standing on, you know, their statement that they're released
(10:34):
saying that he is innocent. They also said that they
put out you know, they put out these text messages
because they wanted to show there was a consensual sexual
relationship between Shannon Sharp and this girl, and that was it,
and that everything that is being put out, they're alleging
everything that Tony Buzby is putting out is being misconstrued
purposely and misleading, and it's misleading purposely. Now fast forward
(10:55):
to today, Buzby said to me in an email, I'm
not trying this case in the press. We released this
only because Sharp's lawyer chose to attempt to discredit and
docs Jane Doe by releasing multiple texts with no contexts.
Did they release the entirety of the text surrounding the
ones from yesterday? Question mark, The audio is very clear
of the situation and speaks for itself, period. And that
(11:17):
is all he said to me, so obviously, And I
could tell by Buzzby's tone when I reached out for
a response to Shannon Sharp's statement, which included those sex messages,
that they were pissed off. He has said to me
that there was some sort of agreement where they all
agreed that certain things would not be released. That's why
they didn't even mention this particular video that Shannon Sharp
is now addressing in their filing. They do talk about
(11:38):
this woman feeling like or saying that she allegedly was
recorded and it was against her will. But that was it.
They didn't mention anything else. Now, there is a video
that Shannon Sharp also just posted to his Instagram, and
he is speaking not to the audio, although this was
released after the audio. He's speaking to a video that
(12:00):
he's saying will probably be released next. Let's take a
listen and friends, supportingly.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Colleagues. I want to speak to you directly and from
the heart. This is a shakedown. I'm gonna be open,
transparent and defend myself because this isn't right. This is
all being orchestrated by Tony Buffley, who is targeted jay Z.
Tony Buzzy targets black Man, and I believe he's going
to release a thirty second clip of a sex tape
that tries to make me look guilty and played into
(12:27):
every stereotype you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He does not address the audio in that video.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I don't know if that's because this video was recorded
before the audio dropped. I also reached out to Shannon
Sharp's attorney, who I've been talking to all morning trying
to get a direct quote in response to that audio,
and I did not get anything back, but then this
video was posted. Shannon Sharp mentions his career in this video,
question to the room, what do y'all think is about
(12:54):
to happen? Career wise?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's gonna be a tough fight because the way that
audio sounds. I mean, although choking is something that takes
place in certain settings, you know, some people like it,
but the way it sounds, it doesn't sound good. It
almost sounds like a punishment. It doesn't sound like it's
part of what they do when they're you know, pleasure
(13:16):
in each other. It sounds more like a punishment. So
I don't know how he's gonna fight that. I don't
know what the rest of the audio sounds like, but
the way it's looking now doesn't sound good, especially considering
the age difference. I think that's the biggest issue is
that he's so much older than her, right, so it
just makes it look like she's powerless. Yeah, and she
(13:39):
sounds powerless, so.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
There's definitely a power dynamic. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean
I think it sounds bad as well, but I do
I do feel that it's manipulative to only release that
short of a clip. Clearly they are driving.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
This the perception right now, the narrative, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Narrative exactly, And so I think it's still up in
the air. I mean, Tony Buzby is you know, a
nefarious name, an afarious name right now at this point.
It was fouled in Nevada, and so I think there's
a lot of context that we're kind of glossing over
(14:25):
right now. So, but on a personal, more personal level,
I think that Shannon Sharp has to smarten up. I
think he has to use more discernment. If you're into
that type of thing, there are certainly professionals that can
help you get off if you will, and handle your
(14:45):
personal business in a way that's far more discreet. And
I think that he has to move and shake in
this world like someone that knows what they're doing. He's
old enough, he's a big old age. What fifty six.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Now, yeah, he's fifty six.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah. I think that he has to move much more,
much different. And then what you mentioned, you know, the
timing of it all. Obviously, sure they've been talking and
he's been paid, so that that doesn't it doesn't like
somehow not line up now because this new deal came through,
he's been had money.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, for sure. I just for me, I'm just a
little confused because I feel like whenever I see situations
like this, it's just why do you get that much
trust to somebody?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Like facts, but granted background info, and I think people
are you said, there's a lot of being glossed over.
I think the aged situation and how that power dynamic
is gonna play into how it's gonna make him look
which I'll tell y'all. They open this lawsuit saying like
he is a powerful man, he is a wealthy man.
He is fifty years old, I'm sorry, thirty years older
(15:52):
than this woman. At minimum, they know exactly what they're
playing into, right, But there was a two year relationship.
It was it seems like it was very rocky, explosive
or whatever according to the woman. According to Shannon Sharp,
it was consensual. But even in that time, I just think,
even if I'm trusting you a bit, like the fact
that he said showed a full video because I don't
(16:14):
have it, Oh no, If that video is something that's
consensual and it's whatever we both got that, I need
to be able to come out swinging just in case,
Like I think we air dropped me that I need
to air drop me that before you fall asleep. Come on,
send that on over. Like, it's just certain things that
I think, in certain precautions I think he should have taken.
I do know in this doc, Tony Buzby, like when
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they filed it said that he had asked this girl
on two separate occasions to sign the NBA, but he
kind of just like let it go. The first time
was in the beginning, and it was another time like
during the course of their relationship, and he just like
went with it. So what do you call a gabby
from OnlyFans? She she had a little hold on uncutetsha right.
Look to answer the question, I think his career is
(17:00):
on the line. Unfortunately. I feel like, first take Disney
to let people go for less. So I think his
one hundred million dollars deal, depending on how this shapes up,
is definitely on the line. The one hundred million dollars
is a separate situation that was a podcast situation he's
trying to do for club station. He ain't negotiating a
dang thing at this point, like and won't be able
(17:20):
to do that for a while until all of this
clears and even if even if he had, like at
this point right now, if he decides to settle and
just all right, let's just you know what I mean,
it's out there now, so now you still gotta speak
to it. You still got to explain it. That's on
the podcast side, that he's gonna have to figure something
out over there independently, something unless Brands decided to sit
by him, and I don't. I'm a little confused public
(17:41):
opinion wise, because it's like, I think people are naturally
swaying with the it's Attorney Busby who just went through
all of this muddy water with jay Z and that
puffy case and you know, things getting dismissed or whatever.
But then you hear this audio, and the audio it's
not the full audio, so we all like, well, wait,
we're the fool. But what you hear it's like, is
this role play? But then she's talking about she being manipulated.
(18:03):
It's like, what is happening right now? And that's just
the podcast stuff, right, and the feelings there, But then
you have the network stuff. I don't know. I would
not be surprised if we see a statement in the
next twenty four hours from ESPN Disney saying, Hey, we're
just gonna suspend such and such until we figure out
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Can we go back to the Stewart Scott days of
commentators like where I don't want to see a sex
tape from Shannon Sharp. I don't want to even know
it exists.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Just feel like ever since that Instagram live and he
just been talking so crazy, you talking about the young girls,
and the point that he's at his career and at
his age, it's just certain things I don't want to
hear from him. To me, I look at him as like,
you've been doing this for so long, and you have
so much bank and so much bread. It's like you're
a coveted you know what I mean, Like you're coveted
in sports. You're supposed to be a coveted voice. Even
(18:54):
the interviews he has started to do. I think that's
why they were getting such to pushback that they were,
because it's like, Yo, what are you doing? You not
third before you're fifty something years old talking to these
young artists. The conversation should have more substance and more
death to it.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
No, I totally agree, And I've studied Shanning for a
long time. I know his one time producer, I don't
know if it's still his producer, A younger, younger guy too,
And I appreciated how they were moving because they were
shaking things up, they were disrupting. But in this day
and age, I think that you have to take both
(19:28):
sides of that coin, how that looks on both sides.
Some of these things they all flow into the same bucket.
You don't get one hundred million dollar deal because you
just reported the facts. A lot of it comes with
the controversy, a lot of it comes with the extras,
you know, and ultimately those people are oftentimes rewarded for
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bringing the drama and the attention in this cluster we
call media. Now.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, it's some things you've got to find out. I
guess about it. If this tape does lead. The only
thing with that though, is I don't see them leaking
the tape or giving the tape because their client Isn't
it like this young woman is in the tape engaging
in these activities as well. Well, well, I was going
to say, so, it's it's two folds. So it's if
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the tape is what Channon Sharp originally is saying that
it is which is a consensual sexual act where they
you know, do different things at the you know, request
of the of this woman she's in the in the video,
and no woman wants to have to put what she's
doing in her bedroom on a tmz dot com or
you know, a breakfast club or wherever. Right, But if
it's not consensual and what they have does show physical
(20:37):
violence or you know, alleged rape or whatever, I don't
think that a victim of something wants it to be
plastered around. As the point that I'm trying to make,
But I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
What about the police? What about filing a police report?
The statue of limitations hasn't expired on this.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Case, right, right, true?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So why wouldn't they file charges before filing.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Off I can't answer that. I have no no answer
to that. I don't know. It's an unfortunate situation to
see anybody in. But you were saying this earlier. It
just happened so fast. It's like one day, one hundred
million dollar podcast negotiation, conversation and reports. The next day
we're talking about is this, you know man an alleged
(21:19):
rapist or not? Which is a heavy allegation to have
on your lady. This is typically a part where you know,
as we're closing the show, we always like to we
have a really big community here on the Latest with
long En Roads of the podcast, and our community is
called the low Riders because they be riding hard for me.
They be going in riding hard for me. But we
take it outside to the streets a lot to take
(21:41):
y'all outside to the streets in the tweets, which is
where we just get online and see what are people
talking about and how are they talking about this? We outside,
we outside, we outside outside. So I tweeted a bunch
of different exclusive conversations that I've had with you know,
both attorneys on Busby, the attorney for the accuser, and
(22:03):
Shannon Sharp's legal council as well. And here are just
a few tweets that happened in response to the information
I tweeted out. So John Thomas twenty four said, there's
nothing illegal about him being a freaky a niga that's
how he spelt it. But that's besides the point. Busby
is a known liar and seems to always be behind
(22:24):
these cases. After an athlete or entertainer gets a big payday,
another low Rider said her name is Tree Threat. She
said believe all women or whatever. But publicizing all this
now feels like the volume wants to keep him and
scare away other media outlets. So Tree Threat is saying that, Okay,
so you're supposed to believe all women. But at this point,
(22:46):
because all of this is being publicized, she's saying that
it feels like kind of like an attack between the
media company that Shannon Sharp was at, trying to keep
him a scare away other media companies because he was
supposed to be doing this other deal. Then she says,
on the other hand, why would anyone field offers if
they know he's been in the mediation regarding in assault
since February. Somebody's lying. I doubt that he shared that
(23:08):
he had been in this mediation or this conversation since February.
Now the last tweet. Kay N McCorkle says, I agree.
Timing of this is horrible for Shannon, whether he's guilty
or not, he should have tried to settle this one.
I get why he didn't want to do it, though,
but based on the recording, things can get back quick
in terms of public opinion. It's a sad situation for sure.
(23:30):
I kind of said this earlier. I feel like maybe
he should have just settled out and just let it
all go away and had these NDAs and things that
people agreed to and just went on about his business.
You know what I mean. I want to hold it
out for Shannon Sharp that you know, we gotta wait
until this goals further. He is innocent to proven guilty,
but there are all these claims out there, so we
got to consider both sides of it. Okay, Okay, Lauren,
(23:53):
what are we taking away from this episode? From this episode,
I'm taking away that, you know, in all my consensual relations,
airdrop meet that video. I need to have my own
proof air Drop meet that video right now, and I
ain't deleting no threads. Don't play with me. What y'all
taking away from this episode?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Don't record at all.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Because you're not an air Drop not Airdrop. Don't play
with me. So you're basically saying you be recorded.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
What I'm saying is is that when you're intimate with somebody,
you years in with somebody. If you choose to do that, cool,
But I just need to know that I always got
my own back. I honestly though, feel like for me
as a woman, I'm not doing all that with somebody
I even have to think would even do things like this.
But it's a scary time. You just never know what
about you wonder.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
I mean, I was gonna say the NDAs. I mean,
I know they don't really hold as much weight, but
it shows some type of consent, you know what I'm saying,
Whereas something like this is just he has nothing to
defend himself to say that, well, this is something that
we've both been doing and we know that this is
(25:00):
what we're gonna do, and this is our relationship, right,
you know so, and I mean you can't be the
age difference, you know that that is what kind of
makes it really look bad. If she was in her
thirties or something, maybe even in her twenties, but teens.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, she was nineteen and he was dealing with her
early twenties. So yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that's good.
I'm just saying you talking about twenties she was. She
eventually turned twenty, but to be nineteen to take her
out for her first legal drink is crazy.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Right, And then it's just like, you know, you kind
of like, what do you expect? Almost you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you guys for joining me today.
I've enjoyed the conversation. These are did y'all are first
like guests outside of my mom. I'm so proud to
show so I appreciate you guys. It's so so much.
Let the people know where they can find all of
your stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You can reach me at all hip Hop Com All
Hip Hop Com or at Chuck Creek, Mercy R, E
E K, m U R everywhere, and.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm Djboy one Dog, djb Oy WNDA on all platforms,
and you could also follow on One World Studio so
you can kind of get an idea of what goes
on in here, One World WN, One World Studios, at everything.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, y'all, this has been another episode of the Latest
with Lauren le Rosa. And at the end of the day,
I tell y'all this every single day. Y'all could be
anywhere with anybody talking about this stuff, but y'all are
right here with me, and I appreciate you guys always.
I'm Laura le Rosa, the homegrowld that knows a bit
about everything and everybody. I'm signing out, I'll see you
in my next episode.