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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
Jewis I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about
everything in every body.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
can't even hot.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What's up, y'all, It's Lauren le Rosa.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm your homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You are now tuned into the latest with
Laura Rosa. Now this is like your daily dig on
everything pop culture and all of the conversations that shake
the room right here with me every single day, six am, period.
So you're gonna start with a check in. When you grinding,
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y'all know, it's token brown girl grinding. That is when
you see me. That is what you know me as.
That's what you identify me as. When you are brown
girl grinding or grinding in general. You don't gotta be
a girl when you grinding in general. Sometimes you need
like that whole check on your strong friend thing. So
I always want to do a check in. It's me
and Patrick. Can hear Patrick say, what's up to the people?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
People?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I want to know Patrick, how are you feeling, like
really feeling today?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Feeling inspired?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
What you inspired by?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Inspired for new opportunities, inspire for this show and where
we're going with it. And today I feel like today's
gonna be something interesting for for your listeners. Yeah, we
got it, you know we're getting it. Together the vibes
going today's okay, I'm feeling your.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Energy, okay, going for you.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I'm feeling centered today, like I feel like when
I say centered, I also mean alignment. And I think
that's important as a creator, as a human being, as
you know, a woman, a god, or y'all watching a man,
a guy, whoever you are. I think it's very important
for people to get to a place of centering and alignment.
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And I will say that I've realized that that looks
different at different levels, phases and times and seasons of
your life.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But you use the.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Same tools to get back to the things, like to
keep the main thing the main thing, but it changes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Does that happen with you sometimes?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Absolutely? Just suggesting just being able to kind of like
go with how everything else is moving.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You know, Yes, adjust when you need to.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And that's a big part of this episode, episode eleven,
New Levels, New Devils, adjusting when you need to. And
now let's get into some of the trending topics. I
want to start out talking about some legal drama. So
you know, your girl love to take y'all a court,
lot to take y'all a court. Okay, So DMX's estate
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has been in a very long term intellectual property feud.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now this feud is over control over his estate. So
currently Desiree Lyndstrom, who is who was DMX's fiance at
the time of his passing. Her and dmxi's ex wife, Tashira,
who we all know, uh, you know, DMX spent decades
of his life with Tashier. She is the mother of
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you know, his kids. Desiree is also the mother of
his last kid, his son. But they've been in this
back and forth battle. Now the battle again.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I mentioned that he died without a will, so there
has been some conversation just about who has ownership and
what that looks like over his state, which ultimately is
his legacy as an artist. So a judge ruled recently
that DMX's ex wife, to Share has no ownership over
his music rights or trademarks. Now, in twenty sixteen, to
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Share claimed that a divorce settlement that her and DMX
had entitled her to fifty percent of DMX's intellectual property.
Now that would mean that she would be able to
make decisions on things as far as like licensing and
you know, just a lot of a lot of things.
And y'all know you know, after DMX passed away, I
think that there was like there was such a want
and a need for people to learn his story, learn
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more about him. I think a lot of us. He's
my favorite rapper. I listened to how it was going
down every single day.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
If you really know me, you know this.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's like a common fact amongst anybody who actually really
knows me. As I've gotten older, I went from looking
at DMX as this rapper who was so hot and
lost it on, like oh my god, like a failure story,
to that's a story of you know, encouragement and courageousness
and just the talent of DMX and how he saved
death Jim and you know, all of that stuff. People
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want to hear more about that, They want to see
more about it. So anybody right now that is deemed
in control of the you know, the rights to be
able to tell his story, to use his likeness to
very hot commodity. So the court declared that DMX's estate
is going to remain exclusively the owner of all of
his copyrights, his trademarks, and anything else that is tied
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to DMX's name and work, including those created during his
marriage with Tashira, this was a big blow so to
Share and DMX were married from nineteen ninety nine to
twenty fourteen. I watched the interview that Sashia did with
Carlos King. I know she also did a sit down
with me a Belle for BT Talks, and she has
a book out right now. Her book is all about,
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you know, her life for real, her upbringing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Who she is. But DMX and their love.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Story played a huge role in a lot of that
because of the amount of time they spent together. For me,
when I thought about DMX, his legacy, his life story,
and who would be in control of it, I just
naturally always thought that it was to cheer. But then
we found out that he died with no will, so
he didn't get to make that decision for himself. So
a judge is basically saying, like tashar, no, we're gonna
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put it over here. And Desiree, who would have been
his Mexican once he passed away, because they were together,
she is now in control now. Desiree posted on Instagram.
You know this was three days ago when the ruling
came down.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Patrick. What does her Instagram paption say?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I'm overwhelmed with emotions. Sasha and I who run the
state at forced synally for so long to protect Earl,
his legacy and his art. Now justice has finally been served.
The court's decision is more than just a legal win
in a moment of peace in the middle of so
much pain.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So, I just remember the time period, and I remember
there being conversation or background reports. Again, it's this all
alleged and reportedly that Tashira sent into a big DMX's
wife for some time and mother of his kids.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And Desiree were not seeing out of eye on a
lot of things.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Now I read to you guys what Desiree said on
her Instagram after this ruling came down. I actually reached
out to a rep for t Shira who sent me
a statement from Tshira on this whole thing. The statement said,
from to Shira, this evil is too big for a statement.
I'll be sharing everything with the world on my upcoming show.
So she has a show that she's you know, coming
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out with again. I mentioned to you guys that she
also dropped a book. But in this ruling, another part
of the dispute was centered around there's these like five
letters of direction that DMX signed before his death, so
there was no real will, but there were these letters
that DMX before his death tried to put into place
so that, you know, people could have something to like
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guide themselves by. And here's the catch, though, Tashira was
basically saying, okay, based off of our divorce, you know,
in our marriage like agreements in these five letters, I
should be entitled to ABC and D.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
A judge looked at those and said no.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
According to these five letters that dmxign before his death,
they only gave these letters only gave instruction about royalty
payments to be split with to share for specific recordings. Now,
these recordings that the judge is referencing were made between
nineteen ninety eight and twenty thirteen, so during the time
of their marriage. Basically, this was you know, DMX's way
of ensuring that she would get money from certain things
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that he had done while they were together. But it
didn't ensure and it doesn't ensure ownership or like leadership
or say so over something as big as the estate.
So as y'all can imagine, this is a devastating hit
for Tashira. But Desiree, you know who was his you know,
new life partner was his new life partner at the time.
Of course, she's looking at this as a win because
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I don't think anybody in this those two women who
love him and if he was here, he wouldn't want
them to be beefing, you know what I'm saying. So
I think for both of them are like, Okay, this happened,
We got to turn the chapter. But there will be
more coming out about this. As you guys heard from Tashia,
like you know, it doesn't seem like she's done talking
about her side of things and what that back and
forth was. But the biggest thing to me here is
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the fact that these women got kids, their kids are siblings.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
They gonna have to figure this on out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Topic number two Wendy Williams.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This week, there were a ton of stories and reports
that dropped around Wendy Williams this week. So on every
ninth there was a story that broke that Wendy Williams
was denied the ability to do dinner with her niece
in her attorney Joe Takapina. Now for background, and the
reason why this is so crazy is because probably about
a month ago, I reported on the fact that the
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judge in Wendy Williams situation made it very clear that
Wendy was allowed because you remember Wendy came on or
and I came on, but she called into the breakfast
club and she said, y'all'm in a prison. I can't
go now where I can't see nobody.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Y'all know.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I went to where she's stay. They wouldn't let me
up to see it. They wouldn't let her down to
see me. The conservatives and the judge came out and said, no,
she's allowed to see family, she's allowed to go out.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
She's very monitored. So then this story breaks.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
On on April ninth, that Wendy Williams is not allowed
to do dinner with her attorney and her niece. So
her new attorney, her personal attorney, Joe Takapina a sapt Joe,
he just you know, defeated you know, the prosecutor's office
and got asap Rocky off on those gun charges. It
makes no sense. It's like at her niece, it's her attorney, Like,
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why not she's been able to move around with her
other attorney when she had the black woman a personal
attorney that she had been you know, talking to so
it made no sense. And then after that we then
saw photos literally like I think this was like the
eleventh So a few days after this, we didn see
photos of Wendy out with Don Lemon and her niece
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Alex Finney, which is weird because it's like, Okay, why
can't she do dinner with Alex in her attorney, but
she can do dinner with Alex and Don Lemon? It
almost is given, like Okay, wait, is the conservativeship trying
to block Joe Tacopina out at least because they can't
control Wendy's calling them you know what I mean, things
like that, but trying to block him out as much
(11:11):
as they can. And the reason why people are like, hey,
is this should we be worried? Is this retaliation against Wendy?
Is because not only did the judge and the conservativeship
come out and say Wendy's allowed to go out and
do dinner with her niece and you know these people
as it's approved now TMZ broke this story. But we
had been you know, and I say we like the
Breakfast Club, We had been in a know of this
for some time that Joe Tacapina was approached by the
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conservator who wanted Joe Tacopina to represent Sabrina Morrissey in
this A and E lawsuit. So instantly, when you know
all of that background and you see that he can't
do dinner, or from what it looks like reportedly, he
can't do dinner, you're like, is this a retaliation thing?
Especially after a judge came out and said, you know,
(11:54):
they didn't like the fact that Whendy was speaking to
the media. They allowed Sabrina Morrissey to talk on record
when she wasn't allowed to talk on record for a
while about the conservatorship because they felt like she talking
but from our standpoint, what she's alleging is not true,
So they let Sabrina come out to clarify some things.
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There was a letter that was sent, you know what
I mean, There was There was a lot of different
things that happened, so you could tell the judge was
pissed off. The same week that all this happens, the
denial for the dinner, her being able to pop out
with Don Lemon. It is then reported that Wendy Williams
is in court and a judge allegedly tells Wendy Williams.
Your career is over and it's not coming back, so
give that up, which sounds very personal, which the judge
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is not a person that works in entertainment. I will
tell y'all my own self from me being, you know,
just close to this situation. I don't think that these
people knew who Wendy Williams was to us in the
beginning of this. I think that they realized that when
she did the Breakfast Club interview. They realized that, and
you know the interviews that came after that, But I
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don't think that they understood who Wendy Williams was, you know,
just culturally right. So I reached out to Joe because
I'm like, look, Joe, I need to know what's going
on and why does this look like this is retaliation?
Here on the Latest with Laura Rosea the podcast, I'm
telling y'all from what I'm being told, how it looks
is not exactly what it is, and it needs to
be explained a bit more.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
On the Breakfast Club. We're gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Joe Tucapina is gonna call in during the last with
Lawna Rosa and he's gonna clarify this because right now,
we feeling like our girls being targeted and I don't
don't I don't know about y'all, but I don't like
that right wrong, aren't different. I think anybody that is
in a situation where they are like almost like helpless
because of their mental capacity there like just sold many things, y'all.
(13:44):
Like I I've told y'all multiple times, I'm a caregiver
my mother and my grandmother. I wish somebody would you
leaning on the fact of what they cannot do. And
I'm not saying that this is what the judge is doing.
I'm telling you, guys, how it feels and how it
looks to Wendy's fans and her audience, which is why
you keep asking me to provide context.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And we are going to do that tomorrow morning on
the Breakfast Club. So you got the little breakdown here.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'm telling you, guys what I've been told as far
as like when we put all these reports together, make
sure you tune in to Lace with Lorna.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Rosea on the Breakfast Clup tomorrow and we'll clarify.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
There's one thing though, I did want to mention Don Lemon.
He has you know, his show that he does on
his YouTube channel now after leaving CNN, but he has
this like written newsletter that he does on substack. I
thought that this was really good, especially in lines of
what we're talking about today of like, you know, new levels,
new devils, being able to just kind of like adjust
and grow and feel and just how that flows and
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how that makes you feel. Patrick, can you read that
first graph from me from a don limit Substack.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
We don't talk enough about what it means for women,
especially women in the spotlight, to age on their own terms,
to be seen without being picked apart. There's this outdated
idea that if you're not chasing youth, you're letting yourself go,
But what if you're just letting yourself be?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Now that to me that hit home, especially in recapin
it's whole Wendy Williams situation and just you know where
I'm at today as we're recording and when he talks about,
you know, women being seen without being picked apart, there's
an outdated idea that if you're not chasing youth, you're
letting yourself go, But what if you're just letting yourself be?
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To me, it's not even about a number of an age.
It's about chasing a trend. It's about, you know, feeling
like you gotta fit within this box or just check
a box for things to work out. And I know
from my own personal experience that you do, especially if
you're a woman, you feel like if you're not the
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hottest topic and everybody's not like everything's not all good,
it's all bad and it's not. Sometimes being able to
sit in things and sit in life experience and going
through the things and doing it in front of people
is tough. It is really tough to learn and grow
and all that here on this platform with you guys
in front of the world. But the record, like the
reckoning that you learn from doing it, and for where
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Wendy is right now in her life, Me and Charlemagne
and Wendy went out to dinner with her with her
niece Alex and there were some things that she said
to us that I was just like man number one,
I don't want to have to go through some of
the things she went through to get to this point
of reckoning. I want to be able to catch you early.
But also it was just like man, that was deep,
(16:25):
Like Wendy's different right now. The way life will sit
you down and humble you. But that era of just
being is so good, and I'm excited to see that.
Judge said her career is over. I don't believe that.
I'm excited to see what Wendy comes back with and
does once she gets through all of this and figures
it out, because you know it's gonna be some hiccup.
Just real quick. I saw this video of Serena Williams
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on my timeline. She had sat down with People magazine.
She did an exclusive chat with People magazine. She was
at the she was at like a beauty shopify like
pop up, and they were talking to her just about
being the let's take a.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Listen your boss.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What does it cost you and.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Has it been worth it?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It definitely costs a lot. I'm here now without my kids,
and that's a big cost for me because I spend
a lot of time with my children and they're very
attached to me, which a pardon it loves and so
it's always, you know, some costs my whole life. I've
had to kind of way like, if I want to
win a championship, well, what is that going to cost me?
It's going to cost me time, with my family. It's
gonna cost me friends instead of cost me relationships, and
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they're very expensive. We have decided it's worth it for you,
and so I definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Agree with that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Saym let me tell y'all something. Go on, watch our
vlog on my YouTube channel, Laura La Rosa TV. We'
vlogged every time we record an episode on a Sunday,
We're going vlog it. And I've been doing vlogs on
my YouTube channel for a minute. But I was like,
I was like, yo, it's nine o'clock. I know my
grandmother's going to sleep. I'm not using not being able
to talk to my mom and my grandmother every day,
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but because things have changed where I have so much
more going on now these last couple weeks, it's been
happening and it's been tearing at my heart because, like
Lord knows, they depend on hearing from me and depend
on me so much.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
When I saw this video, I was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
My god, I feel seen like I like I hear her,
but I also it made me think about so much,
like because family time and the things that make her
feel full, it's literally like that's her sacrifice for where
Serena Williams is in her career today. But I remember
when Serena Williams made the decision to like step away
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from tennis and focus on being a mom and a
wife and all of these things.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
People were like, Yo, she crazy she did. But it's
like I think people in general.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I don't think it's just women that have to pick
and choose and have the sacrifice and make things better
and to you know, level up the way that they
want to. But I do think that it hits women
harder because a lot of times we are the backbone,
like in a nurturing way, like men are the backbone
as a provider financially as a strength, but women in
a way that we provide as a backbone. And it
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was strength and nurturing and we have the kids, were
taking care of home. It's so much, it's so different,
like sometimes it halts us. It's like you have to
choose between the things. And these last couple of weeks
for me, I've been not good at choosing between the
things until I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
take control back.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I am.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Charlemagne said something to me last week that made me
be like, who what we were talking about? You know,
just some decisions that he makes day to day in
his career when it comes to doing things he doesn't
want to do. And he was telling me a story
about you know, you know, him making a choice and
being like, in the moment, I don't want to do this,
so why am I doing it? And he just didn't
do it, and I was like, well, you can do
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that because you're Charlemagne, the god Louren l Rosa is
still building. I'm trying to get to my cost to
be the boss moment, like Serena Williams. I'm figuring it out.
And he was like, yeah, but like you can still
choose and I do things you don't want to do.
At the end of the day, you're still at a
sp where you can make that choice and it creates
a pattern and a rhythm of what people will bring
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to you and what you allow to happen.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And you should do that.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You should set that boundary now because if not, you're
gonna find yourself in the space of doing things you
don't want to do and just fall into the motional
things and sacrificing things you don't want to sacrifice. You
have to sacrifice, But y'all get my gist of what
that conversation was. So when I saw this video and
I thought about all the topics I wanted to do today,
I thought about how different it is for me. Like
I'm a young creator, it's twenty twenty five. I've been
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granted the opportunity of platform. I've been blessed to be
in a space where I can curate what this looks like,
what this feels like, and how y'all get it from me.
So my sacrifice is going to still have to be
sacrificed some time. I'm not gonna get back. So I
thought that this video was a great way to end
the show because again, it makes me think of so
many different things. It makes me feel so many different
ways too.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
So what we takeing away from episode eleven, Laurn.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So from episode eleven, we're gonna take it, you know,
for the tweets, for the tweets segment. You're gonna bring
this whole thing to get their new levels new Devils,
I had tweeted a couple of days ago. Every level
of growth requires change and adjustment. And when I think
about like Wendy, I feel like she sacrificed her ability
to really live for career, like to really really live
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life for her career. And you know, she's in her
readjustment stage because she's learning now that just being and
sitting still and being able to live and remember that
everybody's living too. That's her new phase of career. Serena
Williams had to sacrifice her family, but now in her
new life, she's prioritizing family, the things that make her
feel whole. DMX's family, as I mentioned, had to on
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so many different levels sacrifice the ability to adjust because
he was young, he was figuring it out. Resources were different.
Up until the day he passed away. I think things
were just still figuring and it was new levels and
new devils and new people and knew all of this.
And you know, like today, in this episode and just
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in this moment where I'm at today, what I've learned
is that adjustment is necessary.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You can't escape it. But in learning that, I'm feeling
like a sense of.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Like renaissance from this episode of you know, I want
to make a way. I want to make a space
for those people who are adjusting in real time, learning
to live in real time, learning to utilize their resources
in real time, but not always getting it right because
we're not gonna always get it right. And when we don't,
use that as an inspo. Baby, that's the vision board,
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that's the pinterest, that's the move board. Use that refuel,
come back stronger than ever pop out, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Like, we don't gotta in today's.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Time, you don't have to fully lose grip before you
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And if you do, talk about it, share it. That's
the beauty of where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
At the end of the day, there's always a lot
to talk about and you guys, y'all could be anywhere
in the world talking with anybody about it, but you
choose to be right here with me, and y'all know,
I appreciate y'all for that. I'm Laura l Rosa. This
is the latest with Laura Rosa. I'm the homegirl that
knows a little bit about everything and everybody a bronco
on her grind. I appreciate you all for tuning in
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this episode and I will see you in the next episode.