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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Came in hot.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
All right, y'all, clap it up, clapping. This is the
latest with Laura La Rosa.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You know, I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit
about everything and everybody, and this show right here is
your daily dig into pop culture and all the conversations
that are gonna shake the room now. So I hope
you guys are here, You're feeling good, You're looking good,
you spend time with your family for the holidays, because
now is the time.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Where we check in.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
This is an audio only exclusive episode. So how am
I feeling today? I am feeling like, oh, you think
it's a good like this is not a game, baby,
This is not a game. I live my life every
single day when it comes to career, when it comes
to family, when it comes to everything. You know, very seriously,
(01:50):
I am proudly an overachiever. If I say I'm gonna
do something, it's gonna get done, and it's gonna get done, done, done, done, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But I think in this new.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Space of me, know, having so many things that I'm
doing at once, you know, the elevation and the growth
and having to employ, you know, team and move people
around and position people and just understand.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
All of that. It is a very different level of that.
For me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've been figuring that out on my own. It's literally
like I am first generation at this level of career
success and business because I am, and I'm figuring that
out in real time.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
And I think my platforms are very.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Transparent and they've always been, especially my YouTube channel. So
for you guys on the audio side, check out my
YouTube channel. It's Lauren the Roads at TV. I've logged
there and I've been sharing my journey since day one
of me deciding to move to la to figure out
this whole entertainment industry thing, and I've been very transparent
in doing so.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
The bio of the YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Is from my friend's couch to National TV, because that
is the journey that I took you guys on and
that I continue to take you on, even though I'm
here in New York and not in la and I'm
on radio now in the podcast and not on television.
So staff meeting Lauren is talking to Lauren and saying,
you gotta remember that this is not a game. The
people that you bring into this, the schedules that you keep,
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the pre planning, it's not a game. It cannot be
a game. You are delivering and you have to deliver
every single mark. You can't miss your mark, baby girl.
Now let's get on into the latest. Now, I am
taking y'all of court because one thing y'all know, I
love to do, y'all girl, love to take y'all a court.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
To take y'all a court. And first up on the docket,
we have Little Dirk.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now, Little Dirk is asking for his case in California
to be dismissed. Now that is the murder for a
higher indictment that has to do with the cousin of
another rapper, Kwando Rondo. Now for background real quick for
those of you guys who do not know up until
this point, Quando Rondo, who is also a rapper, and
Little Dirk.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
They don't get along whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
One of Little Dirk's artists, King von was killed after
a outing at a nightclub, which was then pinned on
Quando Rondo because there was a back and forth between
them verbally leading up to it physically. That night, one
of Quando Rondo's crew members ended up shooting King Vonn
was hit did not survive. Now we fast forward to
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where we are right now, Little Dirk is indicted, indicted
because there was a shooting in California not too long
after King Von was shot and killed, where a car
that Quando Rondo's cousin was traveling in was shot up.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
The intention, from what we're learning from this indictment.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Was that the people that are currently locked up who
had shot at this car had believed that Quondo Rondo
was in the car and was shooting was solely in
the car, was shooting just at him moving forward. Come
to find out, Quandor Rondo's cousin was actually hit in
the shooting and did not survive the shooting. Dirk is
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indicted along with five other men. The five other men
were indicted first, and then Dirk was brought into it
in a superseding indictment, which means there was an indictment,
there was these charges, there was these you know, people
that were throwing charges at them and arrested, and then
there was more evidence and more conversation, and little Dirk
was brought into it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So that brings us to where we are today. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
The reason why Little Dirk is asking for this indictment
to completely be dismissed is because he's saying that in
the original indictment, which happened in October of twenty twenty four,
this indictment was predicated or based on the fact that
there were these text messages you know, that ordered this
like hit, this alleged hit on Quando Rondo, which resulted
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in his cousin being killed in the shooting of the car.
That I just explained to you guys. Now, that was
October twenty twenty four. In November of twenty twenty four,
there was a superseding indictment which added additional evidence by
the prosecutor's office, and that evidence basically said, well, in
addition to these five men that we have and all
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that information that we've already told a grand jury, we
believe that rap artists Little Dirt is at the helm
of this.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And here's why.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And they mentioned, in addition to the text messages they
had already talked about, Little Dirt originally was mentioned as
co conspirator number one in the original indictment that went
down in October of twenty twenty four. Now, when he
was mentioned as co co conspirator number one, there were
text messages that the prosecutor's office included. These text messages,
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as I mentioned before, said basically, don't use my name
when y'all booking none of this, none of these flights,
so none of this travel.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Don't use my name at all.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
When this new indictment comes in November of twenty twenty four,
the Prosecutor's office are then able to say, well, Cochin's
for the number one is little Dirk. And not only
did these text messages happened, but there was a song
that was released and this song basically admits to this
killing or the setting up of this killing allegedly.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Now, the song.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
That the Prosecutor's office refers to is actually a song
by Baby Face Ray, who is a Detrie artist, and
the song is called Wonderful Wayne and Jackie Boy. Now
Dirk is a feature on the song, so it's not
even Dirk's song. Dirk just hops song, gives his verse
and gets out. He's later in the song, baby Face
Ray opens a song, but they're talking about lyrics in
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this song where Dirk mentions like no, no, he talks
about like getting revenge and that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
There's a news.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Audio from Kwondo Rondo from the day that his cousin
was killed, and you see him and you hear him
on the scene and he's screaming, let's take a listen.
Now that no, no, no, that you guys just heard it.
That audio from that news outlet.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Was actually dubbed.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It was taken and it was put under this track
that little Dirk recorded the wonderful Wayne and Jackie Waite
verse that he did. It was put under and it
was made to sound like Dirk sampled that news recorded.
Now here's the issue with this that Dirk's team is
pointing out in this request for dismissal. Dark's team is saying, wait,
so y'all are telling us that when you went to
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go talk to this grand jury and show them evidence
of why Dirk should be indicted, y'all predicated it on
this song. That song was released in January twenty twenty four,
even without the news audio right if they used it
and had the date right the prosecutor's office for they
had basically been saying, well, he was able to tell
the future and knew that this was gonna go down,
and knew that that audio clip was gonna be available
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to them reference it in the song seven months prior.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Now, even with the audio right from that news article.
What little Dirk's team is arguing.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Is is, even if this was true, the dates are off,
and y'all could have found that from a simple investigation.
So what Dirk's team did was they went and they
talked to all their producers, all the audio engineers who
have time stance of when things were submitted, when things
were published, when things were put in certain systems, to
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prove the dates of what they're alleged, right, seven months
prior to this killing, seven months prior to that news
clipping of kwander Rono screaming no, no, no, no no.
Not only are they doing that, but they're also saying, well, right,
we have the time stamps, but we also have additional
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timestamps that show from the moment that Dirk's original verse
was turned in to the point when the song actually debuted,
there was nothing change, no lyrics, no audio, no anything.
And they're saying that they have proof of this. They
have affidavits from affidavits which are like statements, right, sworn
testimony and statements from produce audio engineers showing that there's
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no course, nothing was changed.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And they're saying, well, even though y'all have.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
These these text messages, right, which I asked when I
spoke to my sore as close to the situation, I said, well,
if they have the text messages, even if even if
the song stuff is tossed out and we can't lean
anything on this song anymore, they do have these text
messages allegedly.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
How do you explain that?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And what I'm what I was told was that, I mean,
you're gonna have to explain it. You're gonna have to
speak to it. But that's not something that can be
used to indict somebody. That is something that is evidence
that you take the court that a person then has
a fair shot at arguing against when they brought this song.
This is the issue right here, and this is what
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they're leaning the dismissal request on when they use the
song lyrics and failed to disclose the fact to a
grand jury that the song was actually released seven months
prior to the death of this person, which would have
been seven months prior to the audio of this news
report that was allegedly using this song, which would have
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been pinning Dirk to basically creating a song about something
he did, which, if y'all are tracking what I'm saying,
it doesn't match up the timeline doesn't match up right,
So if this were to happen, if this song words
have been presented as fact to the grand jury, which
it would have had to have been. If this is
what the grand jury used to indict Dirk.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
This is false.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This is not true, which is against the law a
grand jury and a prosecutor going before a grand jury
and presenting evidence as facts, not just evidence, but these
are facts. You present facts. It's against Dirk's rights. And
they want this dismissed now. I'm not even gonna hold y'all,
Dirk Legal team eight with this one. I just don't
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understand how prosecutor's office would have overlooked something that simple.
I was able to google n seed dates that everything
is time steeing, from YouTube to everything. And honestly, even
if I was a prosecutor, I'm not even gonna hold y'all,
I would have did my due diligence, Like you don't
bring a high profile case like this for something as
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serious as a murder for hire and you and you
just you miss step like that. It makes no sense.
And Dirk's team is taking a step further. Look, they're like, look,
if you're not gonna dismiss this. All right, cool, but
let's let's let's let's let's put everything on the table now.
We want to see the transcripts from what was said
in front of that grand jury, because what's quad happen
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is is if this is not dismissed, right, and they
get the transcripts, and it is true that they leaned
heavily on this song and it's released in the lyrics
to indict Dirt, And now the timeline is all large
portion of this. You know what I mean, it's it's
I don't know, because Dirk literally was only indict Dirk
was indicted a month after the original indictment. They didn't
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even mention his name in the original indictment. They needed
something more to back up the mentioning of his name,
and they use the song to do this. There are
two fundamental things that they that they're leaning the indictment
on the original indictment. The only one thing that they
leaned on was the text messages the second indictment, the
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superseding indictment. So the addition to the original indictment, Now
that makes two things, which are the text messages in
this song, y'all, Dirk's legal team is on or something here.
We're just gonna have to see how this plays out.
I do know, and I have confirmed that they are
also a Dirk's legal team is also asking.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
For bond again.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Dirk's bond was denied before, and you know, it was
a whole thing with like there was a bunch of
flights booked in his name and you know, blah blah
blah blah blah, so they deemed him like a flight
rist and all of those things. But this go round,
they've offered up a pretty hefty bond package, which includes
note hundred thousand dollars in real estate equity, a million
dollars in cash from Alamo Records, one hundred and fifty
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thousand dollars from business associates. And they also say that
he'll have twenty four to seven private security, he'll be
electronically monitored, and he'll have a strict reporting requirement back
to the judge and to his attorneys and the prosecutors.
And they're offering all this stuff to secure his bill.
Maybe second time is a charm for Dirk.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We will have to see.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Now, next up on the docket, this didn't even make
it the course. I don't even know if this is
fair to say, next up on a docket, y'all not
refrained from cussing, So I'm not gonna use the words
I want to use.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But this is crazy. Honestly, this is this is scary.
This is very scary.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
DeMar DeRozan got into a physical altercation with a man
in a sushi bar in Calabasses over the Eastern holiday weekend.
You see a video of the mar de Rozan standing
over top of a man who was on the ground.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
There is a phone.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
With a light up and then in the video the
man as the DeMar DeRozan backs up off of him,
and there's a woman yelling to DeMar de Rozan, who
was obviously there with him, saying, Yo, it's not worth it.
He's not worth it. He's not worth it. The man
is like, give me my phone, give me my phone.
I need my phone. So, you know, onlookers in the
restaurant told TMZ that Damarrow and this man got into
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it because there was a light that was shining into
his face, which Damar did not like, and things kind
of just escalated from there. Police have confirmed that they
are investigating this. Police say that they're reported to that
sushi bar on April eighteenth, a little bit after ten
thirty pm. Now that was all that was out there
when reports first dropped, right. So of course, when that happens,
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if you don't know DeMar DeRozan and his temperament and
you know all those things, you originally are like, ooh,
he done went off on somebody. I've interviewed DeMar de Rozan.
I met him when he came to the Breakfast Club
and we did an interview with him. And ironically enough,
his book was about just mental health, the piece that
he's found recently, and you know how he deals with
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a lot of different things like the anxiety and the
pressures and you know, all these things, and his temperament
was very composed when we spoke with him. So when
I saw the story, I was like, there has to
be more to this, and baby there was. So following
these reports, there is then a video that begins to
circulate on line of a man who is you know,
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posting a video. His caption says that he had just
gotten into an incident with Damar DeRozan. I'm going to
read to you guys exact caption because I want to
make sure that I get this completely right, so y'all
can see how insane this was. So the caption actually reads,
I got attacked and body slammed by DeMar DeRozan. Don't
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meet your heroes, kids, I don't think. Then he tagged
Drake will like this behavior. I think Drake won the battle.
Then he hashtags for you page this parton and hashtags
basketball this person hashtags Calabasis, the Sacramento Keynes, Damar DeRozan.
He then tags TMZ, ABC seven, l A in the
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Hoop Central, which are all media outlets now. In this video,
the man is walking through a restaurant. He says in
the video, well, let's take a listen. I want you
guys to hear that.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They're trying to kick me out.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Let me give my call now.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
This man then ends up in the back of an ambulance,
uh and.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Apparently it's going to go get checked out.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He says that, you know, he just wants to make
sure that everything is okay, because he said that there
was like a swelling of his head and just different things.
And then the video cuts off as he enters the
hospital because you hear the parabedics tell him he can
no longer record.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I reached out to a source familiar with what went
down that night. What I was told was that the
man allegedly had been disruptive outside of this very restaurant
prior to Damar's arrival, and as Damar was arriving, DeMar
de Rozan then arrived, he was seated. It was very very,
very very very shortly after he was seated, this man
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in Damar's interaction happened. Now, I asked my source, because
it makes no sense that if a man is disruptive
outside of a restaurant, why would a restaurant then allow
him in. I'm told that the man that asks to
use the bathroom and that's how you made his way
into the restaurant. In the video, you hear him say tomorrow,
they're throwing me out, and then he flashes the lights
of DeMar de Rozan and then the altercation happens.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
What I'm taking from this just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
This man came in there looking for someone and at
the end of the video with the mar de Roz
and he is also this man promoting a book on
Amazon that, from the looks of it, from the looks
of his social media accounts, is his book. Now police
are still investigating what exactly happened here, what exactly led
up to it, But that is all that I am told.
And this is scary as hell as a person that
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is beginning to you know, navigate and understanding that this
is not a game and things are elevating it and
there moving. It is so scary to me that people
will intentionally do things.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Just to have a little bit of a moment.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
But I will be back here with more facts on
thiss as things develop, because that's what.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We do here. That is the latest.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Now, what we're learning from this whole episode is that
it doesn't matter if you are an artist deciding what
song you're featured on, what the lyrics will be, you know,
a basketball player just out having some sushi with your homegirl,
with a family member or whatever, or if you are
me and you're you know, figuring things out and you're
building career and you're building team, and you're putting people
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in position, and you're trying to figure out what's working here,
what's working there, what should I add, what should I subtract?
It gets a certain point things are not a game anymore,
and it's a really great.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Place to be.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But baby you gotta protect that like no other, like
no other. And that brings me to our final thoughts.
Outside We Outside, We outside Okada. I actually went and
saw Ryan Cougler Sinners today for the second time. I
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saw the movie when he came to the breakfast club.
We do get the preview to movies and things of
that nature before we talked to.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
The people, but I went and saw it again.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
There was reporting over this weekend that Ryan Cougler Sinners
earned nineteen point two million dollars in the film's domestic
opening day, which is right now second biggest opening for
an original horror film this decade.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Now, that's how the weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Started off for the film, and there was numbers and
great numbers and news and news after that, and I
was so happy.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
First of all, in meeting Ryan Coogler and getting to
have a conversation with him, you just realized, like I
knew he was brilliant, but to see and hear it
and be in conversation with him up close, y'all, I
was like, oh my god, Everything I create has to
have substance, that has to have purpose. There has to
be a reason. I want nuances, I want double on tendrous.
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I just want so much for myself after being in
conversation with him. So I was so happy to see
the response to the film. But I did tweet out
tonight after seeing the movie and I said, I went
and saw Sinners this weekend for the second time. I
have a lot of thoughts about the segregated reactions to
the film. And I don't just mean black versus white
when I'm talking about segregation. I mean Bible thumpers versus
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non Bible thumpers, black versus white, men versus women, quotation marks,
mainstream media versus non mainstream media, and some more. So
I tweeted that out and people had different emotions. The
emotions were mixed. I want to bring that back here,
you know, in the next episode in full, but I
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wanted to mention in it here because lowriders, I want
you to go out there, Okay, I want youry to
go out there.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I want you try to see the movie.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I want you guys to tweet me at Laura Laoz
and let me know how you feel about it, and
let me know about how you feel about some of
the coverage, particularly what I'm talking about. What I'm saying
is that a lot of the mainstream media right now,
instead of focusing on how well the film did, you know,
how it surpassed and how it broke history and how
it is, they're making headlines to talk about what it
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didn't do. They're making headlines to talk about, you know, like,
oh my god, we're so surprised that it did this well,
and it's like, what that's shady as hell? Ben Stiller
tweeted out because Variety tweeted, Sinners has a mass sixty
one million dollars in its global debut. It's a great
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result for an original, R rated horror film. Yet the
Warner Brothers release has a ninety million dollar price tag
before global marketing expenses, so profitability remains a ways away.
It's the opening weekend, y'all. It has a mass over, y'all,
sixty million, sixty one million dollars, and it has a
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ninety million dollar price tag before the global marketing expenses.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It's done that in two forty eight hours a weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I'm not even on the seventy two hour point yet
when I'm talking to y'all right now, and it's done that,
and that's the conversation. So Ben Stiller tweeted out and said,
in what universe does a sixty million dollar opening for
an original studio movie?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Warn't this headline? Clock it?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Ben, Please please clock it, because what's what's going on?
But I'm trying to tell y'all, it's really not a
game out here like it's so you think it's a game.
You think it's a game when you're you're creator of
any sort, but especially if you're a black one out here.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
We don't have room.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
To think it's again, y'all, because these are the type
of things that happen. So we gotta be good. We
gotta be damn good, period. So i'mnna leave it at that.
I'll be back with some more. I really want to
get into that Centers conversation a few other things, so
we will be back at the end.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Of the day.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
You know, there is always a lot to talk about,
but every single time you guys are right here with
me to talk about it, I appreciate y'all so much.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I'm Laura lo Rosa.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
This is the Latest with Laura Rosa, your daily dig
on everything pop culture in all the conversations that shake
the room. I'll see you guys in my next episode