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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Goo night.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing
a heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey, welcome to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in. So
we are. It's ten days, ten days. I'm broadcasting this
is live today on Saturday, October twenty six. Ten days
until we can relax. No more text messages, no more emails,
(00:30):
no more flyers in the mail, no more phone calls,
no more pathetic begging for money. Well, the homeless and
the panhandlers will still keep doing that. But the panhandlers
and the homeless and politicians I kind of all.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Put in the same group. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You can't like a bunch of drug addult, you know,
addicts wandering around just begging for money. Anyway, I'm glad
to have you with me today. There's a there's a
lot to cover, some of which I can't cover in
depth because I haven't had a chance to listen to
it yet, because it's three freaking hours long. No, I
know this program is about what I need to listen to.
(01:06):
And you know what it is, right, It's Donald Trump's
sit down and discussion. I don't I don't even want
to call it an interview, a discussion with Joe Rogan
on the Joe Rogan podcast. And it's two hours, fifty
eight minutes and forty nine seconds or something like that.
And I thought, well, I'll talk about that today. And
(01:28):
then I thought, well no, because I you know, I
get up, I walked the dogs really early this morning,
you know, oh, dark thirty, and I'm just like, no,
I don't want to and I'm taking a road trip
this afternoon to our home and to our undisclosed location
in northern New Mexico. And so I thought, well, it's
about a three hour drive, you know, give or take.
Since the wife's not with me, I'll be able to make.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It in three hours. It should be a four hour,
but I'll make it fast. So I'll listen to it then.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But I pulled up a couple of clips just to
give you an idea, because when I when I woke
up this morning, one of the first things I did
was I went to the Drudge Report. Now I know
the Drudge Report is kind of a you know, since
Matt Drudge sold it or transferred it or whatever he
did to that website. It's become a really left wing
(02:18):
rag what shouldn't surprise any of us, but nonetheless that's
what it's become. So here are the headlines on Drudge
at this very moment, at ten oh eight Mountain Time,
twelve o eight Eastern Rogan Trump is on adderall a
man baby quote, existential threat to democracy. Oh there it is.
(02:40):
Next keeps fans waiting three hours in the cold. That's
apparently because the interview went three hours and he was
going to Michigan for an event and so people had
to wait. I don't think that people showing up at
a Trump event are surprised. They might they might have
to wait three hours because they show up like twelve
hours before it starts.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So you know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But there's Drudge trying to make sure that you think
it's all negative. And then this one. I have no
clue what this one is about. And ask me if
I care. I don't yet because I haven't heard it.
But the Dawn botches Lincoln history. Okay, well, let's take
a listen to this. It started out I think fairly early.
(03:26):
I did listen to maybe the first two minutes of it,
and Joe Rogan starts out by talking about I was
going to play a clip and we decided not to
play this clip, and Rogan explains why, And I think
it's worth a short discussion because I play clips all
the time because under the fair use doctrine in copyright law,
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I can take snippets if it's newsworthy, and I can
use it as commentary. Now, if I just sat down
today and just started playing Joe Rogan's interview and didn't
do anything else, just said, here's Joe Rogan talking to
Donald Trump, and Scooter the chair back got my diet
(04:13):
coke came back in three hours, that would be a
copyright violation because I have now taken the entirety of
that podcast and used it and rebroadcast it without permission. However,
there's a thing called fair use, and fair use is
a valid part of copyright law that says people can
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take parts of Now, when I say parts of, that
is subject to interpretation because through the course of the
program today, as I look at some of the stories
that I've got, there are oh, I don't know, maybe
a total of six, eight, ten, let's say fifteen minutes
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fifteen minutes spread over three hours, Rogan's interview with Donald Trump.
I think that's fair use. Now, why do I think
it's fair use? Because I have the I'm using it
because it's a news story, it's newsworthy. I am telling
you it's from the Joe Rogan podcast, and I am
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telling you what my comments are about it. I'm telling
you my opinion about what took place, what happened, what occurred.
That's fair use. I tell you all of that because
at the very beginning of the program, Joe Rogan wants
to play a clip of the View. Now, I play
clips from the View quite a bit during the weekday
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program because when you listen to those ditches on the
View and you listen to the low information voters that
are clapping seals all clapper, yay yay, with not having
a clue what they're clapping for.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Have you ever been one of those programs?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
If you ever go to one of those programs in
Last Angels or New York, you know, a studio program,
there's an audience manager, and in addition to the audience manager,
there are applause signs basically so that the trained seals
I e.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The audience knows when the clap.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Now, they may not have heard what was going on
on stage, depending on the sound and all the interruptions
and the noise around them, but when.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They're told to clap, you clap.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah. Okay, so they're just trained seals. But anyway, Rogan
is talking about the View and he wants to play
a clip where Trump appeared on the View in twenty fifteen,
just prior to his announcement that he was running for president,
and Boopy Goldberg is giving him a hug, Joey Bear
(06:48):
Behar is all talking about how they love him. Oh,
he's just wonderful. They really hope he runs, and he's
just wonderful. We understand that you're conservative physically, but we
understand you might be a little liberal on social issues,
and we just, oh, my gosh, you're just such a
wonderful human being. And now he's hitler, and so Rogan
decides and tells Trump I was going to play and
he described it kind of like I just did, and says,
(07:11):
I don't want to play that clip now because Rogan
and his staff have decided that they don't want to
give the cabal, the dominant media any excuse, any excuse
whatsoever to flag them for a copyright violation, even though
in my legal opinion, I think that would be fair use,
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but they're not willing to run the risk. Now, I
want you to think about what that means in terms
of what you get to hear, because I doubt Now
I don't know what the percentage would be, but I
bet it's less than half. I BET's less than a third.
Quite honestly, if you wan't know what my gut tells me,
it's probably less than ten percent of this audience. We'll
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listen to the entire three hours of the Joe Rogan
EXCS Experience podcast unless you are already a Joe Rogan fan,
and that's already in you in your repertoire, and that's
what you listen to all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Otherwise, people who do who don't know who Joe Rogan is,
they know that Trump was there. They look at it
and it goes three hours. For a nation that already
suffers from ADHD, I doubt seriously that they're going to
listen to the entire three hour broadcast. So we'll do
a few snippets of it. Ten days away from the election,
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one thing I want you to think about is.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Why is it that?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And I completely understand, Don't get me wrong, I would
probably give Rogan the same exact same advice, you know,
rather than run any risk whatsoever that you're going to
get dinged for a copyright violation and then having because
he's been threatened with this before and advertisers. His advertisers
have been threatened, So why take any of that risk.
Let me just tell you what the clip says instead.
(08:59):
The lesson from that is to show you how the
media can pressure, whether it's the network or the cables
or anybody else, of what to say or not to say. Fortunately,
I work for a company that for the twenty years
it almost will it'll be twenty years next year that
I've been on radio. Not once have I been told
(09:22):
you can say this or you can't say that. The
only thing I've ever been told is just don't violate
the FCC rules, which means I can't say bull. I
have to say bull crap Joe Rogan and Donald Trump
in a point that's really important coming up next. Hey,
(09:44):
welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
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(10:05):
And yes, one of you picked up that I will
not be on air Monday because I'm still trying to
burn up vacation days because iHeart and Premiere won't let
me bank vacation days and I'd much rather be with
you guys. But I'm not gonna you know, I'm not
gonna give those days back to them. My contract says
I can take them, so I'm gonna take them. So
I'm gonna sneak out here when I finish today and
(10:28):
take Monday off and I'll be back on the air Tuesday.
So I explained about Joe Rogan and the whole copyright issue.
But immediately after that, Rogan's trying to or trying to
ask Trump, so how is it that you go from
being so loved to being hated? And I thought this
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answer was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I navigate a good story, I only get bad press.
Say this, it's a lot easier if you're a Democrat.
If I were a Democrat, you get a lot of
positive would get a lot of positor.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yes, no, it's a it's a creepy, corrupt business, and
the media to a large extent, acts as a propaganda
arm for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Its not it's not even believable.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, it's believed. I mean it's bizarre to watch. And
most you know, most young people I think are aware
of it. I think most boomers still, unfortunately read the
newspapers and believe in CNN.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But no, no, no, no, no, no, we don't come on, Joe,
don't let us all boomers in the same night. Maybe
I first of all, I yes I read the newspapers.
But why because I want to see what the La
Times or the Washington Post I.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Want to hear. I want to read about who they
don't endorse them.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's getting younger, Yes, it's getting for us for a consensus.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And you know, I don't know why I consider myself
the Internet. It's because the Internet's given people information that
they're not getting from anywhere else, and they like the
very fine people hoax, the Russia Gate hoax, all these
different things that they've done. They try to pin on you.
That's like, it's a clear distortion of what you actually said.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Blood bath hop Yeah, I was talking about the auto industry.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I like the fact that Trump brings up You forgot
about the blood bath hoax too. I was talking about,
you know, with the Democrats get leg it's gonna be
a blood bath for the auto industry.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I heard that hoax again this past week. They will
not stop and it's having an effect. And I don't
think it's having the effect that the media wants. And
I'll explain why in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's a bloodbath because Japan and China are taking our
auto and I said it's a bloodbath. They said, oh,
he's the word.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Bloodbased's going to be a blood bath that's going to take.
But that's the problem with propagandists, because they take things
out of context and of Ultimately, what they do is
they diminish their own credibility because people don't want to
listen to them anymore because they see that they've done
that and they recognize what's going on, and I feel insulted.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They're intelligent. Well, look at the ratings. You know, shows
are like yours. So I have a son who's very
smart and tall, Baron right, and he knows all about you.
He knows about guys I never heard of. He said, Dad,
you don't know how big they are. They're pick you know.
I said, Oh the hell is it like Ross?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He said, Daddy's a great guy. I mean, I said
at door.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's a whole new world out there, and.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's brilliant of Trump to be doing this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I I told Michael, my LA producer, that when I
got up this morning and I looked at YouTube as
of you know, about six am Mountain time this morning.
Rogan dropped this at six or seven pm last night,
West coast time. As of six am, twelve hours later
(13:53):
Mountain time, you ever, take an hour or two, it
had almost eleven million views. Eleven million views. So they're
absolutely right. Baron's right, I'm right, you're right, We're all right.
But let's not gloss over what this is doing to
the cabal.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You see. I do believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We're on the precipice of a really giant awakening in
this country. And I think this election, although this election
could be a setback. If Kamala Harris wins, if Trump
wins and really does the things that he says he's
going to do, and particularly if we get a Republican
House and Senate and they're actually able to truly affect
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some change, the country might be saved. But to the
point about the media, Gallup has released their latest trust
in Media survey and it leaves zero doubt, I mean
no doubt whatsoever that the media in this country is
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the lowest life form in the country. Gallup asked this question. Listen,
here's the question. In general, how much trust and confidence
do you have in the mass media such as newspapers, TV,
and radio when it comes to reporting the news fully,
accurately and fairly A great deal, a fair amount, not
(15:21):
very much, or none at all. What do you think
the numbers are? What percentage of people that Gallup surveyed
have a great deal of confidence that the media is
going to report the news fairly, accurately and fairly only
eight percent. That's worse than members of Congress. That's worse than,
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unfortunately for used car salesmen who get a bad rap.
By the way, I think that's worse than lawyers. My god,
lawyers are better than that. The percentage that believes the
media reports the news fairly, accurately and fully a fair
amount of the time only twenty three percent, less than
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a quarter. So right now we have thirty one percent
of Americans, according to Gallop, believe that the media presents
the news fully accurate and fairly only thirty one percent,
not very much. That they don't report the news very accurately,
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fairly and fully very much. That's at thirty three percent.
And those that believe that the media does not at
all present the news fully accurate and fairly, that's at
thirty six percent. That is sixty nine percent. Two thirds.
More than two thirds of Americans have zero trust or
very little, not much trust at all in the media.
(16:50):
Y all went through this little fight yesterday with a
story that I did on my local program, which I
want to share with you later in this program about
some ballot fraud that we have in Colorado, and I
played directly from a local news station's website a two
point three two and a half minutes. And then as
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I'm going through the SoundBite, I realized, oh wait a minute,
they left out a salient point. And of course the
little reporter here in Colorado gets all upset about it
and things me on Twitter, and I'm like, wait a minute,
you know what I did. I just played your SoundBite
and you're accusing me of having edited it. No, I
just played it as it was on your website. Interestingly,
(17:36):
that video is no longer available on their website, and
now the entire newscast is on the website instead.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I wonder why people don't have trust in the media. Yeah,
I wonder why. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Be
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Speaker 1 (18:05):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing
a heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Let's get my numbers up as great as Joe Rogans.
Wouldn't that be fantastic? Yeah? On your podcast app, you
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(18:35):
to that one podcast. Go do that right now. So
back to this Gallup poll. Now, some of you have
asked me on Twitter on x if I wouldn't post
a link, So I just I just retweeted, reposted. I
guess is the new technical term. I just reposted the
Gallop story on X so you can go find that
on my feed at Michael Brown USA. So the great
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deal fair amount number which I said, you know, is
about thirty one percent that believe that the media fully,
accurately and fairly reports the news. That ties Gallop's lowest
ever number that was first recorded back in twenty sixteen. Now,
the more shocking result is the combined not much that
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they don't report it fairly at not much or none
at all, at sixty nine percent. That is four points
worse than the sixty five percent figure posted by the
usual standard setter for mistrust the legislative branch consisting of
the House and the Senate. Obviously it's not really that close.
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So the Congress and the media are pretty much both
in the toilet. The most distrust of Congress is of
the softer not very much variety. That's about forty six percent,
while the press lapse elected counterparts by seventeen points in.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
The far more hardcore at.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
None at all category. This should be a complete and
utter embarrassment to the media at every level, state, local, national.
Now you say, well, but you might say to yourself, well, Michael,
you're on the radio. You're doing a naturally syndicated program
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right now, so aren't you part of the mass media.
Here's the difference. I'm not a journalist. I'm not reporting
the news. I'm talking about the news. I'm giving you
my opinion about the news. I'm giving you ways that
I think you ought to think about the news. I'm
trying to change your perspective. I'm an opinion guy. I'm
not a news guy. I'm not a journalist. So when
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you look at those numbers, if you're a journalist, whether
you're the little local journalist that's you know, bitching at
me because oh you took me out of context. No
I did not. I just reported what was on your website.
Or you're David Muir of the you know, ABC World
News Tonight, whatever level you're at You gotta be a
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little embarrassed by this. You The new figures are driven
by a sixteen percent drop among Democrats over the past
two years. Now that's important because press watchdogs, those people
that you know over why they don't oversee the press,
(21:44):
they watch over these things about the press. They blew
off these low survey results. They kept arguing that they
were artificially waited because being anti media is part of
Republicans' political identity. That's how the website five point thirty eight.
But at one time, well that was back when most
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corporate media companies were proudly in the dolling feces out business.
And now they're actually just eating that feces. They're serving
and eating crap sandwiches. And you can't you can't say,
as they'd like to, well, it's Fox's fault, and then
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it's Trump faults, Trump's fault.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
The Economist had an article titled for Americans, trusting the
media has become a partisan issue. Donald Trump, they write,
has convinced Republicans to disbelieve mainstream journalism. No, no, I
don't think so. I think Donald Trump, what we've watched
how the media has treated him has exposed them for
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the propagandists that they are. Over at CNN, Oliver Darcy
reacted to one of these polls complaining that, you know,
some of the most popular media and political figures actively
pollute the information landscape. Really, because I think you're one
of those guys that does that. Brian Stetler explained bad
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numbers as again because of Republican sentiment. You know, if
Republican sentiment is so is so broad and we're able
to drive those numbers down so dramatically, we ought to
be winning every election everywhere in the country, but we're not.
They give us way too much credit, and ask yourself why,
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because they are trying to find a scapegoat.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Those in the media.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Want to blame Republicans for their low numbers when Gallop
When you look at the tabs on the Gallup poll,
it's pretty evenly divided among Republicans, Democrats, and independents. So
if you have a broad spectrum of consumers of news,
and that broad spectrum sixty nine percent says that you
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rarely have ever report the news fully, fairly and accurately,
then the media ought to stand up and take notice this,
you know, Brian Steller at one point. I was listening
to this yesterday Brian Stetler over at CNN, formerly with
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The New York Times, then at CNN, and then fired
from CNN, and then brought back to CNN. And I've
actually sat on a set with Brian Steller. I've actually
been in New York with him when he first started
and sat down with an interview with him about some
disaster going on in the country. This was post This
was after I was the undersecretary, and I found him
(24:42):
to be again, kind of a ditz. He was pretty
effective at reading the teleprompter, but not very effective but
asking or listening to the questions. He tried to divide
it between reporters and repeaters, and I found that hilarious,
because why wouldn't I to turn into one of the networks,
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or for that matter, Fox News or CNN or MSNBC.
I don't care, and actually have reporters just telling me, hey,
here's what happened today. The sun came up at seven
five am. Give me some facts, just facts, but that's
not what we have. I don't call them repeaters, but
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indeed that's what they are. I call them stenographers because
what they've been doing is they've just been taking whatever
the press release is from their preferred party affiliation and
just oh, Kamala Harris says this, Okay, well, let's just
put that into a press release. I've actually watched that
occurring in a newsroom. I've actually watched a news director
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sit with a press release next to them and just
on their screen and they're just cutting and pasting out
of the press release into a news story to be
broadcast live. And I thought, yeah, that's the repeater, that's
the stenographer.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
The reason for you know, we could talk for days
about the reasons for this, and I think that Joe
Rogan was right about one thing. He's right about several things,
but one in particular regarding this story, and that is
that the Internet has pretty much killed off big media
you and I. And this is why, even even today,
with the Internet, you have to be pretty discerning about
(26:27):
where you get your news. Now, if you come to
this program expecting me to just give you factually the news,
then you came to the wrong place. Oh, I'll tell
you factually what happened, but then I'll tell you what
I think about it, and I'll tell you why what
happened is either stupid or smart, or good or bad, dumb, crazy, brilliant.
(26:50):
I'll tell you whatever I think about it, and I
think that's why you listen. But don't come and listen
to me, expecting from me for three hours just to
talk about well today, you know, blah blah blah happened.
And that's the way it is. On Saturday, October twenty six,
twenty twenty four, this is Walter Cronkite signing off.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, not going to happen. Not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But you can find those places, and you can also
find lots of people who will either challenge your beliefs
or will confirm your beliefs. There's a lot of confirmation
bias on the internet, which is fine, but even those
who might confirm your already held biases might give you
(27:37):
some factual data points that help you understand. Oh, you know,
I believe this, and now I understand why I believe it,
And now I've got some factual evidence back here to
back up what I believe. That makes you a smarter person,
That makes you a good debater, That makes you a
good person to really sit down and have a discussion
(27:57):
with about why terror are good or tarifs are bad,
which took up a lot of the conversation between Joe
Rogan and Donald Trump, which we'll talk about later. Also,
you know, I think this really kind of kind of
reached its point or its peak during COVID because the Internet.
I remember thinking during COVID that I couldn't wait until
(28:21):
we got to the point where we started looking back
at what governments at all level did, including Trump and
Fauci and all of those doctor Burk's and all of them,
what they did, What Fizer and all of them, you know, Johnson, Johnson,
Milderna did what they all did. I couldn't wait. I
was hoping that I would live long enough. And sure enough,
I think the Internet sped that up because we're already
(28:42):
beginning to understand that some of those things that I
said on air that people said, oh my gosh, that's
just a conspiracy theory, well it's all become true. It's
all it's all coming true. And I think that's because
the Internet, and I would say X in particular, where
Elon Musk said, you know what, We're gonna quit deplatforming people,
(29:04):
and as long as people aren't inciting violence, they have
a First Amendment right on X, which is why I
emphasize X so much. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown.
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(29:29):
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how to Listen. So, speaking of the media, both the
Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post, and I'm sure
there are others around the country, have refused to endorse
a presidential candidate this year. Now, the La Times I'm
(30:15):
kind of not surprised by, but the Washington Post kind
of surprises me for a couple of reasons. Now, ownership
comes with its privileges. I forget the name of the
owner of the new owner of the La Times. It's
it's an Asian name, and I just I'm sorry, I
just forget it right now and right and the current
owner of the Washington Post is Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon. Well,
(30:41):
the neo conservative Washington Post editor at large Robert Kagan,
has resigned from the Post at because it refused to
endorse or Bezos said, we're not going to endorse a
candidate in this race. Now, Kagan writes a column for
the Washington Post. But here's something you probably out to
know and probably don't know. He's married to the Biden
(31:04):
Harris government's former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Newland,
who's the globalist architect of the Ukraine War. Kagan's resignation
came after Bezos made it clear to the editorial page
that they're not going to endorse Kamala Harris for president.
(31:24):
You know, two weeks and now ten days before the election.
This is the first time the Post has declined to
endorse a candidate since the nineteen eighty eight presidential election.
The publisher and CEO Will Lewis announced the decision to
the newsroom yesterday on Friday. Now, I don't think the
resignation of this editor at large is surprising at all,
(31:48):
coming from a long line of neo conservative intelligentsia who
are opposed to the more humbled and you know, non
interventionist foreign policy is being advocated by Donald Trump. Kagan's
late father, Donald Kagan and his brother Fred Kagan have
both been leveling their own criticisms of Trump for a
(32:10):
decade now. So in addition to the familial ties to
anti Trump sentiments, Kagan's wife, Victoria Newland, is no fan
of Trump either. A senior official in the Biden Harris administration,
Newland was the chief architect of the policy on the
Ukraine War, that policy that says, hey, we're not gonna
(32:32):
try to win the war, We're just gonna try to
just keep helping you, Zeleiski, as long as it takes.
It's not how you conduct a war. You conduct a
war by going in to win. Why would Victoria Newlan
want to just push a policy that says, hey, we're
gonna stick with you as long as it takes. Oh maybe,
(32:53):
because when you push for allowing Ukraine to expand the
conflict by conducting military strikes deep inside Russia, a red
line that Putin says that could listen to nuclear response
or having failed to sufficiently escalate the conflict in Eastern Europe.
Newland announced her resignation near this past March, but she
(33:14):
still accomplished what she wanted to accomplish, and that was
what well, the military industrial complex, they've got a gravy
train going on right now, a never ending war, a
war that has no discernible mission statement that says, here's
what we're going to do. We're going to give you
whatever it takes to push you know, putin back out
(33:38):
of Ukrainian sovereign territory and then hold those lines and
call it a day, kind of like we did South Korea,
you know, pushing north of the parallel, call it a day.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And while that.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
War is still ongoing, there's at least a nonofficial truce
that has kept any more casualties from a curry, you know.
Just months after Newland resigned Biden was forced into a
sort of resignation of his own following that disastrous debate
(34:13):
against Donald Trump, and then he gets replaced by in
July by the Vice President as the twenty twenty four nominee. Yeah,
it seems to me that the party that keeps accusing
Conservatives and Republicans and Donald Trump in particular of being
a threat to democracy, that they themselves are the threat
(34:33):
to democracy, and they themselves believe that. You know, ownership
can't dictate what a company does.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
What.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Huh, let's think about that. So ownership can't.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Dictate what a company does, but government can dictate what
a company does. Oh yeah, that's called fascism. Yes, So
the very people that accuse us of somehow being a
threat to democracy, are they themselves the ones that are
the threat to democracy. My timing's off a little bit,
(35:13):
but let me start this anyway. Trump's been floating the
idea of eliminating the income tax, with the revenue from
the income tax being replaced from important export tariffs. Now,
he first floated that change, not during and this shows
(35:33):
you the power of the Joe Rogan podcast. Trump actually
kind of floated that idea during a recent campaign stop
at the Bronx where he went to that barbershop, and
then it kind of caught fire on social media a
little bit, but then when he and Rogan talked about
it in depth last night, took off like wildfire this morning. Now,
(36:00):
the concept might sound far fetched in modern American politics.
I've always advocated I've always wanted to get rid of
the income tax, the sixteenth Amendment, what an abomination to
the American economy, to the American worker. Tax your labor, No,
(36:20):
don't tax my labor. Labor is something that I do
so that I can feed myself, so I can shelter myself,
shelter my family, feed my family, provide myself clothing and
food and transportation. But you want to tax my consumption,
Now you can do that, because that's something I get
to choose to do, not something I have to do.
(36:42):
So it's maybe surprising to some of you that there
was a time in this country when we did not
have an income tax and we actually relied on tariffs.
That's coming up next
Goo night.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing
a heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey, welcome to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in. So
we are. It's ten days, ten days. I'm broadcasting this
is live today on Saturday, October twenty six. Ten days
until we can relax. No more text messages, no more emails,
(00:30):
no more flyers in the mail, no more phone calls,
no more pathetic begging for money. Well, the homeless and
the panhandlers will still keep doing that. But the panhandlers
and the homeless and politicians I kind of all.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Put in the same group. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You can't like a bunch of drug addult, you know,
addicts wandering around just begging for money. Anyway, I'm glad
to have you with me today. There's a there's a
lot to cover, some of which I can't cover in
depth because I haven't had a chance to listen to
it yet, because it's three freaking hours long. No, I
know this program is about what I need to listen to.
(01:06):
And you know what it is, right, It's Donald Trump's
sit down and discussion. I don't I don't even want
to call it an interview, a discussion with Joe Rogan
on the Joe Rogan podcast. And it's two hours, fifty
eight minutes and forty nine seconds or something like that.
And I thought, well, I'll talk about that today. And
(01:28):
then I thought, well no, because I you know, I
get up, I walked the dogs really early this morning,
you know, oh, dark thirty, and I'm just like, no,
I don't want to and I'm taking a road trip
this afternoon to our home and to our undisclosed location
in northern New Mexico. And so I thought, well, it's
about a three hour drive, you know, give or take.
Since the wife's not with me, I'll be able to make.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It in three hours. It should be a four hour,
but I'll make it fast. So I'll listen to it then.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But I pulled up a couple of clips just to
give you an idea, because when I when I woke
up this morning, one of the first things I did
was I went to the Drudge Report. Now I know
the Drudge Report is kind of a you know, since
Matt Drudge sold it or transferred it or whatever he
did to that website. It's become a really left wing
(02:18):
rag what shouldn't surprise any of us, but nonetheless that's
what it's become. So here are the headlines on Drudge
at this very moment, at ten oh eight Mountain Time,
twelve o eight Eastern Rogan Trump is on adderall a
man baby quote, existential threat to democracy. Oh there it is.
(02:40):
Next keeps fans waiting three hours in the cold. That's
apparently because the interview went three hours and he was
going to Michigan for an event and so people had
to wait. I don't think that people showing up at
a Trump event are surprised. They might they might have
to wait three hours because they show up like twelve
hours before it starts.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So you know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But there's Drudge trying to make sure that you think
it's all negative. And then this one. I have no
clue what this one is about. And ask me if
I care. I don't yet because I haven't heard it.
But the Dawn botches Lincoln history. Okay, well, let's take
a listen to this. It started out I think fairly early.
(03:26):
I did listen to maybe the first two minutes of it,
and Joe Rogan starts out by talking about I was
going to play a clip and we decided not to
play this clip, and Rogan explains why, And I think
it's worth a short discussion because I play clips all
the time because under the fair use doctrine in copyright law,
(03:51):
I can take snippets if it's newsworthy, and I can
use it as commentary. Now, if I just sat down
today and just started playing Joe Rogan's interview and didn't
do anything else, just said, here's Joe Rogan talking to
Donald Trump, and Scooter the chair back got my diet
(04:13):
coke came back in three hours, that would be a
copyright violation because I have now taken the entirety of
that podcast and used it and rebroadcast it without permission. However,
there's a thing called fair use, and fair use is
a valid part of copyright law that says people can
(04:36):
take parts of Now, when I say parts of, that
is subject to interpretation because through the course of the
program today, as I look at some of the stories
that I've got, there are oh, I don't know, maybe
a total of six, eight, ten, let's say fifteen minutes
(04:57):
fifteen minutes spread over three hours, Rogan's interview with Donald Trump.
I think that's fair use. Now, why do I think
it's fair use? Because I have the I'm using it
because it's a news story, it's newsworthy. I am telling
you it's from the Joe Rogan podcast, and I am
(05:17):
telling you what my comments are about it. I'm telling
you my opinion about what took place, what happened, what occurred.
That's fair use. I tell you all of that because
at the very beginning of the program, Joe Rogan wants
to play a clip of the View. Now, I play
clips from the View quite a bit during the weekday
(05:39):
program because when you listen to those ditches on the
View and you listen to the low information voters that
are clapping seals all clapper, yay yay, with not having
a clue what they're clapping for.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Have you ever been one of those programs?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
If you ever go to one of those programs in
Last Angels or New York, you know, a studio program,
there's an audience manager, and in addition to the audience manager,
there are applause signs basically so that the trained seals
I e.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The audience knows when the clap.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Now, they may not have heard what was going on
on stage, depending on the sound and all the interruptions
and the noise around them, but when.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They're told to clap, you clap.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah. Okay, so they're just trained seals. But anyway, Rogan
is talking about the View and he wants to play
a clip where Trump appeared on the View in twenty fifteen,
just prior to his announcement that he was running for president,
and Boopy Goldberg is giving him a hug, Joey Bear
(06:48):
Behar is all talking about how they love him. Oh,
he's just wonderful. They really hope he runs, and he's
just wonderful. We understand that you're conservative physically, but we
understand you might be a little liberal on social issues,
and we just, oh, my gosh, you're just such a
wonderful human being. And now he's hitler, and so Rogan
decides and tells Trump I was going to play and
he described it kind of like I just did, and says,
(07:11):
I don't want to play that clip now because Rogan
and his staff have decided that they don't want to
give the cabal, the dominant media any excuse, any excuse
whatsoever to flag them for a copyright violation, even though
in my legal opinion, I think that would be fair use,
(07:34):
but they're not willing to run the risk. Now, I
want you to think about what that means in terms
of what you get to hear, because I doubt Now
I don't know what the percentage would be, but I
bet it's less than half. I BET's less than a third.
Quite honestly, if you wan't know what my gut tells me,
it's probably less than ten percent of this audience. We'll
(07:56):
listen to the entire three hours of the Joe Rogan
EXCS Experience podcast unless you are already a Joe Rogan fan,
and that's already in you in your repertoire, and that's
what you listen to all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Otherwise, people who do who don't know who Joe Rogan is,
they know that Trump was there. They look at it
and it goes three hours. For a nation that already
suffers from ADHD, I doubt seriously that they're going to
listen to the entire three hour broadcast. So we'll do
a few snippets of it. Ten days away from the election,
(08:32):
one thing I want you to think about is.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Why is it that?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And I completely understand, Don't get me wrong, I would
probably give Rogan the same exact same advice, you know,
rather than run any risk whatsoever that you're going to
get dinged for a copyright violation and then having because
he's been threatened with this before and advertisers. His advertisers
have been threatened, So why take any of that risk.
Let me just tell you what the clip says instead.
(08:59):
The lesson from that is to show you how the
media can pressure, whether it's the network or the cables
or anybody else, of what to say or not to say. Fortunately,
I work for a company that for the twenty years
it almost will it'll be twenty years next year that
I've been on radio. Not once have I been told
(09:22):
you can say this or you can't say that. The
only thing I've ever been told is just don't violate
the FCC rules, which means I can't say bull. I
have to say bull crap Joe Rogan and Donald Trump
in a point that's really important coming up next. Hey,
(09:44):
welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in. You
know we have rules of engagement on this program. You
know what they are. The first one is, if you
want to send me a message, text your question or
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Just start your message with the word Mike or Michael,
and you can tell me anything or ask me anything.
(10:05):
And yes, one of you picked up that I will
not be on air Monday because I'm still trying to
burn up vacation days because iHeart and Premiere won't let
me bank vacation days and I'd much rather be with
you guys. But I'm not gonna you know, I'm not
gonna give those days back to them. My contract says
I can take them, so I'm gonna take them. So
I'm gonna sneak out here when I finish today and
(10:28):
take Monday off and I'll be back on the air Tuesday.
So I explained about Joe Rogan and the whole copyright issue.
But immediately after that, Rogan's trying to or trying to
ask Trump, so how is it that you go from
being so loved to being hated? And I thought this
(10:52):
answer was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I navigate a good story, I only get bad press.
Say this, it's a lot easier if you're a Democrat.
If I were a Democrat, you get a lot of
positive would get a lot of positor.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yes, no, it's a it's a creepy, corrupt business, and
the media to a large extent, acts as a propaganda
arm for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Its not it's not even believable.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, it's believed. I mean it's bizarre to watch. And
most you know, most young people I think are aware
of it. I think most boomers still, unfortunately read the
newspapers and believe in CNN.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But no, no, no, no, no, no, we don't come on, Joe,
don't let us all boomers in the same night. Maybe
I first of all, I yes I read the newspapers.
But why because I want to see what the La
Times or the Washington Post I.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Want to hear. I want to read about who they
don't endorse them.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's getting younger, Yes, it's getting for us for a consensus.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And you know, I don't know why I consider myself
the Internet. It's because the Internet's given people information that
they're not getting from anywhere else, and they like the
very fine people hoax, the Russia Gate hoax, all these
different things that they've done. They try to pin on you.
That's like, it's a clear distortion of what you actually said.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Blood bath hop Yeah, I was talking about the auto industry.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I like the fact that Trump brings up You forgot
about the blood bath hoax too. I was talking about,
you know, with the Democrats get leg it's gonna be
a blood bath for the auto industry.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I heard that hoax again this past week. They will
not stop and it's having an effect. And I don't
think it's having the effect that the media wants. And
I'll explain why in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's a bloodbath because Japan and China are taking our
auto and I said it's a bloodbath. They said, oh,
he's the word.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Bloodbased's going to be a blood bath that's going to take.
But that's the problem with propagandists, because they take things
out of context and of Ultimately, what they do is
they diminish their own credibility because people don't want to
listen to them anymore because they see that they've done
that and they recognize what's going on, and I feel insulted.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They're intelligent. Well, look at the ratings. You know, shows
are like yours. So I have a son who's very
smart and tall, Baron right, and he knows all about you.
He knows about guys I never heard of. He said, Dad,
you don't know how big they are. They're pick you know.
I said, Oh the hell is it like Ross?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He said, Daddy's a great guy. I mean, I said
at door.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's a whole new world out there, and.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's brilliant of Trump to be doing this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I I told Michael, my LA producer, that when I
got up this morning and I looked at YouTube as
of you know, about six am Mountain time this morning.
Rogan dropped this at six or seven pm last night,
West coast time. As of six am, twelve hours later
(13:53):
Mountain time, you ever, take an hour or two, it
had almost eleven million views. Eleven million views. So they're
absolutely right. Baron's right, I'm right, you're right, We're all right.
But let's not gloss over what this is doing to
the cabal.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You see. I do believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We're on the precipice of a really giant awakening in
this country. And I think this election, although this election
could be a setback. If Kamala Harris wins, if Trump
wins and really does the things that he says he's
going to do, and particularly if we get a Republican
House and Senate and they're actually able to truly affect
(14:39):
some change, the country might be saved. But to the
point about the media, Gallup has released their latest trust
in Media survey and it leaves zero doubt, I mean
no doubt whatsoever that the media in this country is
(15:00):
the lowest life form in the country. Gallup asked this question. Listen,
here's the question. In general, how much trust and confidence
do you have in the mass media such as newspapers, TV,
and radio when it comes to reporting the news fully,
accurately and fairly A great deal, a fair amount, not
(15:21):
very much, or none at all. What do you think
the numbers are? What percentage of people that Gallup surveyed
have a great deal of confidence that the media is
going to report the news fairly, accurately and fairly only
eight percent. That's worse than members of Congress. That's worse than,
(15:44):
unfortunately for used car salesmen who get a bad rap.
By the way, I think that's worse than lawyers. My god,
lawyers are better than that. The percentage that believes the
media reports the news fairly, accurately and fully a fair
amount of the time only twenty three percent, less than
(16:06):
a quarter. So right now we have thirty one percent
of Americans, according to Gallop, believe that the media presents
the news fully accurate and fairly only thirty one percent,
not very much. That they don't report the news very accurately,
(16:27):
fairly and fully very much. That's at thirty three percent.
And those that believe that the media does not at
all present the news fully accurate and fairly, that's at
thirty six percent. That is sixty nine percent. Two thirds.
More than two thirds of Americans have zero trust or
very little, not much trust at all in the media.
(16:50):
Y all went through this little fight yesterday with a
story that I did on my local program, which I
want to share with you later in this program about
some ballot fraud that we have in Colorado, and I
played directly from a local news station's website a two
point three two and a half minutes. And then as
(17:12):
I'm going through the SoundBite, I realized, oh wait a minute,
they left out a salient point. And of course the
little reporter here in Colorado gets all upset about it
and things me on Twitter, and I'm like, wait a minute,
you know what I did. I just played your SoundBite
and you're accusing me of having edited it. No, I
just played it as it was on your website. Interestingly,
(17:36):
that video is no longer available on their website, and
now the entire newscast is on the website instead.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I wonder why people don't have trust in the media. Yeah,
I wonder why. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Be
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I'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing
a heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Let's get my numbers up as great as Joe Rogans.
Wouldn't that be fantastic? Yeah? On your podcast app, you
search for the situation with Michael Brown, the Situation with
Michael Brown, and then once you hit subscribe, that will
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So you get all of my radio programs by subscribing
(18:35):
to that one podcast. Go do that right now. So
back to this Gallup poll. Now, some of you have
asked me on Twitter on x if I wouldn't post
a link, So I just I just retweeted, reposted. I
guess is the new technical term. I just reposted the
Gallop story on X so you can go find that
on my feed at Michael Brown USA. So the great
(18:57):
deal fair amount number which I said, you know, is
about thirty one percent that believe that the media fully,
accurately and fairly reports the news. That ties Gallop's lowest
ever number that was first recorded back in twenty sixteen. Now,
the more shocking result is the combined not much that
(19:19):
they don't report it fairly at not much or none
at all, at sixty nine percent. That is four points
worse than the sixty five percent figure posted by the
usual standard setter for mistrust the legislative branch consisting of
the House and the Senate. Obviously it's not really that close.
(19:46):
So the Congress and the media are pretty much both
in the toilet. The most distrust of Congress is of
the softer not very much variety. That's about forty six percent,
while the press lapse elected counterparts by seventeen points in.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
The far more hardcore at.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
None at all category. This should be a complete and
utter embarrassment to the media at every level, state, local, national.
Now you say, well, but you might say to yourself, well, Michael,
you're on the radio. You're doing a naturally syndicated program
(20:33):
right now, so aren't you part of the mass media.
Here's the difference. I'm not a journalist. I'm not reporting
the news. I'm talking about the news. I'm giving you
my opinion about the news. I'm giving you ways that
I think you ought to think about the news. I'm
trying to change your perspective. I'm an opinion guy. I'm
not a news guy. I'm not a journalist. So when
(20:58):
you look at those numbers, if you're a journalist, whether
you're the little local journalist that's you know, bitching at
me because oh you took me out of context. No
I did not. I just reported what was on your website.
Or you're David Muir of the you know, ABC World
News Tonight, whatever level you're at You gotta be a
(21:21):
little embarrassed by this. You The new figures are driven
by a sixteen percent drop among Democrats over the past
two years. Now that's important because press watchdogs, those people
that you know over why they don't oversee the press,
(21:44):
they watch over these things about the press. They blew
off these low survey results. They kept arguing that they
were artificially waited because being anti media is part of
Republicans' political identity. That's how the website five point thirty eight.
But at one time, well that was back when most
(22:05):
corporate media companies were proudly in the dolling feces out business.
And now they're actually just eating that feces. They're serving
and eating crap sandwiches. And you can't you can't say,
as they'd like to, well, it's Fox's fault, and then
(22:25):
it's Trump faults, Trump's fault.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
The Economist had an article titled for Americans, trusting the
media has become a partisan issue. Donald Trump, they write,
has convinced Republicans to disbelieve mainstream journalism. No, no, I
don't think so. I think Donald Trump, what we've watched
how the media has treated him has exposed them for
(22:51):
the propagandists that they are. Over at CNN, Oliver Darcy
reacted to one of these polls complaining that, you know,
some of the most popular media and political figures actively
pollute the information landscape. Really, because I think you're one
of those guys that does that. Brian Stetler explained bad
(23:13):
numbers as again because of Republican sentiment. You know, if
Republican sentiment is so is so broad and we're able
to drive those numbers down so dramatically, we ought to
be winning every election everywhere in the country, but we're not.
They give us way too much credit, and ask yourself why,
(23:33):
because they are trying to find a scapegoat.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Those in the media.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Want to blame Republicans for their low numbers when Gallop
When you look at the tabs on the Gallup poll,
it's pretty evenly divided among Republicans, Democrats, and independents. So
if you have a broad spectrum of consumers of news,
and that broad spectrum sixty nine percent says that you
(23:59):
rarely have ever report the news fully, fairly and accurately,
then the media ought to stand up and take notice this,
you know, Brian Steller at one point. I was listening
to this yesterday Brian Stetler over at CNN, formerly with
(24:20):
The New York Times, then at CNN, and then fired
from CNN, and then brought back to CNN. And I've
actually sat on a set with Brian Steller. I've actually
been in New York with him when he first started
and sat down with an interview with him about some
disaster going on in the country. This was post This
was after I was the undersecretary, and I found him
(24:42):
to be again, kind of a ditz. He was pretty
effective at reading the teleprompter, but not very effective but
asking or listening to the questions. He tried to divide
it between reporters and repeaters, and I found that hilarious,
because why wouldn't I to turn into one of the networks,
(25:03):
or for that matter, Fox News or CNN or MSNBC.
I don't care, and actually have reporters just telling me, hey,
here's what happened today. The sun came up at seven
five am. Give me some facts, just facts, but that's
not what we have. I don't call them repeaters, but
(25:23):
indeed that's what they are. I call them stenographers because
what they've been doing is they've just been taking whatever
the press release is from their preferred party affiliation and
just oh, Kamala Harris says this, Okay, well, let's just
put that into a press release. I've actually watched that
occurring in a newsroom. I've actually watched a news director
(25:48):
sit with a press release next to them and just
on their screen and they're just cutting and pasting out
of the press release into a news story to be
broadcast live. And I thought, yeah, that's the repeater, that's
the stenographer.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
The reason for you know, we could talk for days
about the reasons for this, and I think that Joe
Rogan was right about one thing. He's right about several things,
but one in particular regarding this story, and that is
that the Internet has pretty much killed off big media
you and I. And this is why, even even today,
with the Internet, you have to be pretty discerning about
(26:27):
where you get your news. Now, if you come to
this program expecting me to just give you factually the news,
then you came to the wrong place. Oh, I'll tell
you factually what happened, but then I'll tell you what
I think about it, and I'll tell you why what
happened is either stupid or smart, or good or bad, dumb, crazy, brilliant.
(26:50):
I'll tell you whatever I think about it, and I
think that's why you listen. But don't come and listen
to me, expecting from me for three hours just to
talk about well today, you know, blah blah blah happened.
And that's the way it is. On Saturday, October twenty six,
twenty twenty four, this is Walter Cronkite signing off.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, not going to happen. Not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But you can find those places, and you can also
find lots of people who will either challenge your beliefs
or will confirm your beliefs. There's a lot of confirmation
bias on the internet, which is fine, but even those
who might confirm your already held biases might give you
(27:37):
some factual data points that help you understand. Oh, you know,
I believe this, and now I understand why I believe it,
And now I've got some factual evidence back here to
back up what I believe. That makes you a smarter person,
That makes you a good debater, That makes you a
good person to really sit down and have a discussion
(27:57):
with about why terror are good or tarifs are bad,
which took up a lot of the conversation between Joe
Rogan and Donald Trump, which we'll talk about later. Also,
you know, I think this really kind of kind of
reached its point or its peak during COVID because the Internet.
I remember thinking during COVID that I couldn't wait until
(28:21):
we got to the point where we started looking back
at what governments at all level did, including Trump and
Fauci and all of those doctor Burk's and all of them,
what they did, What Fizer and all of them, you know, Johnson, Johnson,
Milderna did what they all did. I couldn't wait. I
was hoping that I would live long enough. And sure enough,
I think the Internet sped that up because we're already
(28:42):
beginning to understand that some of those things that I
said on air that people said, oh my gosh, that's
just a conspiracy theory, well it's all become true. It's
all it's all coming true. And I think that's because
the Internet, and I would say X in particular, where
Elon Musk said, you know what, We're gonna quit deplatforming people,
(29:04):
and as long as people aren't inciting violence, they have
a First Amendment right on X, which is why I
emphasize X so much. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Don't forget. You can text me anytime. The numbers three three,
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(29:29):
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(29:51):
and when they air and reair the program. So if
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how to Listen. So, speaking of the media, both the
Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post, and I'm sure
there are others around the country, have refused to endorse
a presidential candidate this year. Now, the La Times I'm
(30:15):
kind of not surprised by, but the Washington Post kind
of surprises me for a couple of reasons. Now, ownership
comes with its privileges. I forget the name of the
owner of the new owner of the La Times. It's
it's an Asian name, and I just I'm sorry, I
just forget it right now and right and the current
owner of the Washington Post is Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon. Well,
(30:41):
the neo conservative Washington Post editor at large Robert Kagan,
has resigned from the Post at because it refused to
endorse or Bezos said, we're not going to endorse a
candidate in this race. Now, Kagan writes a column for
the Washington Post. But here's something you probably out to
know and probably don't know. He's married to the Biden
(31:04):
Harris government's former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Newland,
who's the globalist architect of the Ukraine War. Kagan's resignation
came after Bezos made it clear to the editorial page
that they're not going to endorse Kamala Harris for president.
(31:24):
You know, two weeks and now ten days before the election.
This is the first time the Post has declined to
endorse a candidate since the nineteen eighty eight presidential election.
The publisher and CEO Will Lewis announced the decision to
the newsroom yesterday on Friday. Now, I don't think the
resignation of this editor at large is surprising at all,
(31:48):
coming from a long line of neo conservative intelligentsia who
are opposed to the more humbled and you know, non
interventionist foreign policy is being advocated by Donald Trump. Kagan's
late father, Donald Kagan and his brother Fred Kagan have
both been leveling their own criticisms of Trump for a
(32:10):
decade now. So in addition to the familial ties to
anti Trump sentiments, Kagan's wife, Victoria Newland, is no fan
of Trump either. A senior official in the Biden Harris administration,
Newland was the chief architect of the policy on the
Ukraine War, that policy that says, hey, we're not gonna
(32:32):
try to win the war, We're just gonna try to
just keep helping you, Zeleiski, as long as it takes.
It's not how you conduct a war. You conduct a
war by going in to win. Why would Victoria Newlan
want to just push a policy that says, hey, we're
gonna stick with you as long as it takes. Oh maybe,
(32:53):
because when you push for allowing Ukraine to expand the
conflict by conducting military strikes deep inside Russia, a red
line that Putin says that could listen to nuclear response
or having failed to sufficiently escalate the conflict in Eastern Europe.
Newland announced her resignation near this past March, but she
(33:14):
still accomplished what she wanted to accomplish, and that was
what well, the military industrial complex, they've got a gravy
train going on right now, a never ending war, a
war that has no discernible mission statement that says, here's
what we're going to do. We're going to give you
whatever it takes to push you know, putin back out
(33:38):
of Ukrainian sovereign territory and then hold those lines and
call it a day, kind of like we did South Korea,
you know, pushing north of the parallel, call it a day.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And while that.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
War is still ongoing, there's at least a nonofficial truce
that has kept any more casualties from a curry, you know.
Just months after Newland resigned Biden was forced into a
sort of resignation of his own following that disastrous debate
(34:13):
against Donald Trump, and then he gets replaced by in
July by the Vice President as the twenty twenty four nominee. Yeah,
it seems to me that the party that keeps accusing
Conservatives and Republicans and Donald Trump in particular of being
a threat to democracy, that they themselves are the threat
(34:33):
to democracy, and they themselves believe that. You know, ownership
can't dictate what a company does.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
What.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Huh, let's think about that. So ownership can't.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Dictate what a company does, but government can dictate what
a company does. Oh yeah, that's called fascism. Yes, So
the very people that accuse us of somehow being a
threat to democracy, are they themselves the ones that are
the threat to democracy. My timing's off a little bit,
(35:13):
but let me start this anyway. Trump's been floating the
idea of eliminating the income tax, with the revenue from
the income tax being replaced from important export tariffs. Now,
he first floated that change, not during and this shows
(35:33):
you the power of the Joe Rogan podcast. Trump actually
kind of floated that idea during a recent campaign stop
at the Bronx where he went to that barbershop, and
then it kind of caught fire on social media a
little bit, but then when he and Rogan talked about
it in depth last night, took off like wildfire this morning. Now,
(36:00):
the concept might sound far fetched in modern American politics.
I've always advocated I've always wanted to get rid of
the income tax, the sixteenth Amendment, what an abomination to
the American economy, to the American worker. Tax your labor, No,
(36:20):
don't tax my labor. Labor is something that I do
so that I can feed myself, so I can shelter myself,
shelter my family, feed my family, provide myself clothing and
food and transportation. But you want to tax my consumption,
Now you can do that, because that's something I get
to choose to do, not something I have to do.
(36:42):
So it's maybe surprising to some of you that there
was a time in this country when we did not
have an income tax and we actually relied on tariffs.
That's coming up next
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