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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Since we love countdown so much around here, only a
few seconds till the BS begins.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That fits kind of perfectly with what I'm starting out
with today, Sure doesn't it? With this total BS total BS?
I was going to because I walked in this morning
and I said down, I was running a little bit
late this morning, and I have a friend that's stuck
in an airport, and so i'd listened to his story
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of woe, which you know, I feel bad when someone
calls you because they're on their way, like overseas and
they know their flights that's arriving in Denver is late,
and so they start counting down to make sure that
you know, am I going to make my connection in
San Francisco? And so they're texting me yesterday that you know,
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I don't think I'm going to make my connection. Of course,
I'm an aggressi flyer, like I guess I'm an agressy driver.
I'm aggressy flyer. I already start looking for alternatives, knowing
that I'm probably gonna miss that fly even if I
even if I land in San Francisco, knowing the gates,
I'm not going to be able to get from Gate
eighty Gate B. So I'm already, you know, chatting with
a gate agent or I'm on the app whatever, already
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looking for alternatives. And I can't understand why. I mean,
because he flies all the time, I can understand why
he's not doing this. And and then I wake up
this morning and there's a text message and he's sitting
on a bench in San Francisco in SFO, and he
has been all night long, and I just, you know,
and he's waiting on bags. He's been waiting for four
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hours for bags. And I'm like, well, why why are
you waiting four hours for bags? You know? Have you
been to the baggage Fame office? You know? And I
don't know. Just the whole point is, I just I
It bothers me when something happens and I can't or
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I feel helpless, like I can't do anything to help
somebody or to help the situation, or I can't correct something.
It's not entirely analogous, but this happened to me yesterday
and it really drives me crazy. So one of the
things that I get to do, which I consider to
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be I'm lucky I get to do it. It's also,
I mean, everything has its good side and it's bad side,
I suppose. But when I'm doing show prep, I get
to like open up x formerly Twitter and just go through.
And because I've got a lot of followers, I can
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just go to my timeline and just see what all
my followers are saying and talking about, and find news
stories and find interesting things. And I'm doing that yesterday
and I run across a post that catches my eye
because it it's from someone that I don't know this
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person personally at all, but they are a disabled Marine
Corps Gulf War veteran, husband, father, grandfather's the way they
go on to describe themselves, an ac networking engineer, a
business owner, and America First guy. So you know, this
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guy follows me. So I'm reading through, and you know,
he's got twenty one He's got slightly more followers than
I do. He's at twenty one thousand. I'm at twenty thousand.
But he posted something that caught my eye because the
first sentence is arrested, COMMA arrested. USDA Inspector Phyllis Fong,
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a twenty two year Deep State operative, is one of
the key players behind the artificial inflation of poultry and
egg prices in the United State fates, she ordered the
calling of millions of healthy birds using the fake excuse
of mutating bird flu. But here's the truth. There was
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no pandemic. Now, if you listen very closely to me,
you might understand why that caught my eye. Two reasons. One,
we spent I don't know a for a four hour
program a significant amount of time yesterday talking about bird flu.
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And I had said that the day before I had
been interested in bird flu, and I started asking a
question about whether bird flu could be passed on to eggs,
which then led to a lot of text messages, a
lot of conversation about bird flu and the eggs. I
can't find any scientific evidence that bird flu is transmitted
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to the eggs. Then I learned the difference between a broiler,
which is a chicken ray for meat versus a chicken
that is raised for eggs. Chickens that are raised for
broilers are, uh, they don't live, but you know, I
have to go back and look, but just for a
few months, because they get pumped up with so much
antibiotics and the food that they eat and everything else
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that if they don't you know, harvest those chickens. Their
their legs will break so real quick. Just imagine being
named for how you're going to be cooked, right exactly.
We should start, well, you know, dragon, we should look
to go around like, let's go around the buildings that
when people start showing up, and let's you and I
just look at individual people and think, well, how will
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we cook them? Barbecue? Yeah? Right, and then we could
we could start. I guarantee you there's nobody here's gonna
be sushi oven baked.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, there's nobody here's gonna be sushi none at all.
There's all of this conversation yesterday about bird flu. So
this caught my eye. Now, there was something in the
first paragraph that unless I think you have background or
you have a similar background to me, you've probably glossed
over it. But here's what it said. Arrested USDA US
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Department of Agriculture inspector Phyllis Fong. So when I think
about a USDA inspector, the very first thing I think
about is literally an inspector, you know, like a health inspector.
Someone that goes to uh, you know, goes to a
chicken farm, a poultry farm, goes to a restaurant, goes,
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you know, to a slaughter house, goes to a meat
packing plant, goes somewhere. They're the USDA. You know, us
DA inspected, So I thought it's one of those people.
So that caught my eye. I'm thinking, oh, everything we
talked about yesterday, Here is some additional information, because listen
to the rest of the of the post. It's a
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fairly large post. So let me just read through the
entirety of the posts knowing that what this guy is
saying is that this is a USDA inspector and a
deep state operative and is one of the key players
behind the artificial inflation of poultry and eight prices because
she ordered the culling of millions of healthy birds using
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the fake excuse of the mutating bird flu. And then
but here's the truth, in all caps, there was no pandemic.
So of course this naturally catches my eye. Here's the
rest of his post. Phyllis Fong personally ordered mass bird
exterminations in twenty twenty four, targeting farms in Colorado, Ohio, Arizona, Louisiana,
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and Nebraska. One case in Louisiana set the stage. A
man parentheses who did not work on a poultry farm.
Closed bread was allegedly diagnosed with H five in one
after quote finding dead birds close quote in his yard.
The CDC then in all caps, invented. The CDC then
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invented a panic story claiming sixty six people were infected.
Sources say that number is all caps entirely fabricated. Excuse me.
Before the media even blasted this fake outbreak, Fong and
Biden's corrupt FDA sent teams of inspectors in full hazmat
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suits to Nebraska, ordering the instant killing of six hundred
thousand birds. The farm owner, who recently tested his flock
and found zero signs of bird flu, refused, but it
didn't matter. Fong had already signed off on the order,
threatening him with four billion dollars in fines and prison
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time if he didn't comply. She thought she was untouchable.
When Trump began cleansing the deep state in January, she
refused to leave, publicly claiming Trump had no authority over
federal watchdogs. The next day, karma strucked security forced her out,
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delivering her straight to JAG investigators. Now you know why
the price of eggs have shot through the roof. Now,
what I want to do is I want to dissect this.
But before I dissect it, I want you to know
this is entirely false. It's entirely false. But there's some
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wording in here again which caught my eye that made
me start to dig further on this story. And it
is a it is a quintessentially classic example of Now,
my guess is, if you're an ex and if you're
on Facebook, you'll find this post and you'll find a
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picture of this woman. Now again, part of the reason
that this is going to take up portions of this
program today is because I know what it's like to
be falsely accused of something, and I know what it's
like when your photo gets plastered all over And this
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was even before social media was really a thing. We're
going back to two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
So I've got a real bugaboo about people who are
falsely accused of doing something that they did not do
and using half truths and partial language out of other
stories to compile a compilation of just bull crap, utter
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bull crap. And then it pisses me off because I thought,
based on our conversation yesterday I was going to because
I then went down the rabbit hole, because you know me,
I can't let it go. I went down the rabbit hole, thinking, aha,
I have found a USDA inspector who is the source
of the slaughter of all of these chickens, and I
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can talk about it tomorrow. Well, sure enough, here I
am talking about it tomorrow, but not for the reasons
that you think, for the reasons that it's a completely falsehood.
It's a total, complete falsehood. And it's a great example
of how things spread so rapidly. I mean, I think
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about how things spread rapidly with me, this spread even
more rapidly. So I go down the rabbit hole. I
first want to find out who you know, misfallng, who
is Phyllis Fong. So I go on Lexus and Nexus
and I checked Phyllis Fong. Well it turns out now,
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remember it said that she's in USDA inspector. She's not
a USDA inspector. She was the Department of Agriculture's Inspector General,
which is an entirely different category of personnel. She's a
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presidential appointee, she's not, and she's not a poultry inspector.
She's the inspect or. She was the inspector general of
the United States Department of Agriculture. So when I first
discovered that by just finding the first story about her,
the truthful story about her, I thought, oh my god.
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I went back and read the post again, and sure enough,
the post talks about because remember I said that she
refused to do something that she had signed off an order.
And then at the very end of the post, this
guy wrote, when Trump began cleansing the deep state in January,
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she refused to leave, publicly claiming Trump had no authority
over federal watchdogs. That statement is true. She was one
of the inspector generals that Trump fired because he wanted
to put in his own inspector generals, and she did
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refuse to leave her office, and either the Federal Protective
Service or the US Marshals, I'm not quite sure which,
but some law enforcement authorities, in other words, people with guns,
showed up her at her office and escorted her out
of the USDA building. So you see, here's a great
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example of throw in a little bit of truth but
apply it to something that's totally false. And the conclusion
this entire story was now you know why the price
of eggs have shot through the roof. No, I do not,
because now I understand that you have completely made up
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out of thin air a story about a woman who
was not an inspector. She was the inspector general. She
was one of the people that got terminated by the president,
which was the group of inspector generals, and she was
one that refused to leave her office until law enforcement
showed up and escorted her out of the building. Nothing
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at all to do with the slaughter of birds. I
then decided that it was time to Okay, well, maybe
I can find out who did order the slaughter of birds.
So I go back to Lexus Nexus again and I'm
digging through trying to find everything. And by the way,
when I talk about using Lexus and Nexus, this is
this is not something that's free. This is something that
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costs money to do. So I'm actually spending resources which
this company will out imburse me for. But nonetheless I
use this because when I'm on this air, when I'm
doing this program, I want to be able to cite
quality sources about you know, whether things are true or
not true. And I want to get to the because
I truly am curious about this whole thing about why
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are we slaughtering birds when the eggs don't transmit the disease?
Or why when we have one bird do we slaughter
thousands of birds? Because if you've identified that one bird,
why don't you kill that one bird? I mean, I
understand that I may not fully comprehend how it spreads
or transmits inside a poultry farm, but I still would
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just like some answers, I dig did some digging and
kept digging and digging and digging, and they're just no stories.
There are no stories other than there's stories about, you know,
we're slaughtering all these birds and they're slaughtering all this
bird flu. But then I come across Snopes. Now I
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don't put a lot of credibility in Snopes, but when
you're now I'm off Lexis nexas and now I'm doing
a Google search. And remember sometimes I specifically go to
Google as opposed to duck duck go because I want
to see what they're feeding me, because they're going to
feed me what they want me to see, and they
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wanted me to see the Snope story. Guess what the
headline is a Snopes USDA Inspector General did not order
mass extermination of bird's drive up cost of poultry and
eggs the claim, and they repeat the very first claim
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that this guy had posted on X. But then they
they rate the claim as false and write this following
the forcible removable of Phyllis Fong, the former Inspector General,
the former Inspector General of the Department of from her
office after she ignored President Donald Trump's termination order in
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late January, twenty five posts shared online and They've got
them Archive began to claim that she was the key
player behind the artificial inflation of poetry and eg prices
in the US. And it links to a Facebook post,
And I go to the Facebook post and the Facebook
post is an article from the Guardian. So I look
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at the Guardian story. The Guardian story is about her
being escorted out of the building. It has nothing to
do whatsoever with her allegedly ordering the extermination of chickens.
But before you click on the Guardian story on Facebook,
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it has the same thing that he has over on X.
Do you see how this misinformation just spreads like the
Pacific allis ages fire. Is it too early to make
that comparison? Do you see how early it just spreads,
like the Marshall fire. You see how quickly it just
spreads like Oh, I don't know USAI d money to
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fund you know, drag shows in Peru? Do you get it?
The point I want to make is simply this, anybody
can anybody can fall for these false stories. And I'm
fortunate enough from the position that this is my job,
so I get to dig around. But the lesson to learn,
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I think, is one, when you read something, please don't
take it at face value, and to be really careful
because a guy that said well shows that engineers are crazy,
but a guy who has a pretty good bio is
as susceptible to it as anybody else. Oh, Master, poor
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grasshopper here figured out that story was wrong and thirty
seconds and was going to bring it to you to
find that you already knew. I should just listen. Yeah,
that's right, by golly. That's why I'm the talent and
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you're just the goober. But I'm not done yet because well,
one there's a text message I want to address. But
two the point about this is now I pulled the
original post back up so far it has two point
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four million views. Now that doesn't mean that two point
four million people agreed with it, But two point four
million people have seen this now, almost five thousand people
have commented, thirty five thousand reposted it. Now, I don't
know whether all of those reposts could have done like
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I could have done last night and put this is
a false story and reposted it. But thirty five thousand
people have spread it, seventy four thousand people have liked it,
and eleven thousand people have bookmarked it, meaning that they
have kept it in their information because they now think
and I, you know, I was I had a meeting
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yesterday and during the meeting, it was a business meeting,
and it's you know, it was a well it was
it was a bit. That's all you need to know
is it was a business meeting and I had to
do this. Yet you know, look, do Dragon and I
sometimes are we susceptible to having the wool pulled over
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our eyes? Absolutely? But I'm sitting in this lunch meeting
and something is said about I forget what it was,
and I had to win, oh time and time out,
that's that's not true. Well, but you know, blah blah
blah blah blah. Well, no, because of X y Z.
So I'm doing this all the time, and I just
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I am amazed at the amount of stuff that gets reposted,
spread emailed, tweeted, posted on Facebook. Whatever it is that
is just utterly false, and it really confounded. It confounds
me because I know that I'm susceptible to it, just
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like I could have easily fallen for this because it
caught my eye because you know, one of the things
I do when I'm looking at posts on X particularly
one that catches my eye because I have so many followers,
don't I don't personally know everybody that follows me, So
I look at their bio because I'm always curious about
their Yes, sometimes they tell you a lot, sometimes they
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don't tell you anything. But here's a guy that's, you know,
an engineer and has got all this background. He's retired marine. Well,
you know, so I give some credence to that, and
then I when I read the post, I'm thinking it
just something. My radar goes off and says it's just
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not right. Now. The other point I want to make
it is with regard to a text message that says
this is from Guber number sixty seven ninety one Mike,
when you started talking about the story, I wanted to
verify if it was true. I came across a Snopes
fact check that said the story was false. When I
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read the fact check, it said it was unproven. So
is the entire So is the story entirely false as
Snope says, or is it unsubstantiated, unproven? And should Snopes
flag it that? It was? That it flag it that woe?
So should Snopes flag it that way instead of false? Well,
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here's the problem that Snoops has. There are truths in
this post. Let's see where did this truth start? See
dig into it. She is part of the deep state,
in that seatless When Trump began cleansing the deep state
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in January, she refused to leave, publicly claiming Trump troup,
publicly claiming Trump had no authority over federal watchdogs. That
is true. That's exactly true, And in fact, you could
even argue that part of the next sentence is true too.
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The next day, karma struck. Security forced her out. That
is true. Whether you want to call it karma or not,
I don't care, but that is true. Security forced her out.
But then the closing clause of the sentence is false,
delivering her straight to JAG investigators Judge Advocate General of
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the military JAG investigators. No, so Karma did strike and
security did force her out, but they didn't shackle her
and deliver her to a JAG investor over it, you
know Fort Belvoir or at you know, Fort Mead or
at the Pentagon somewhere. No, they did, they didn't do that.
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They didn't do it. So I'm not trying to look
Snope semi Snopes is like Wikipedia, Wikipedia, you know, the
book of knowledge. Wikipedia is if you just want to
get some basic things as your starting point. I don't
have problems people going to Wikipedia, but don't buy everything
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that Wikipedia says. Snopes same thing. At least Snopes is
addressing that the plane that she ordered the culling of
millions of healthy birds using the fake excuse of mutating
bird flu that is demonstrably false. So without dwelling on
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this forever this morning, which I really do want to
dwell on it, because there's so much As as I
told this person that a's a business meeting yesterday. They
were talking, you know, asking questions about, you know, how
the show's going, and you know, and asking me a
lot of questions about what Trump's doing and everything else,
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and I made the comment that show prep for me
has has we don't get me wrong, I still enjoy it,
but there is so much going on, so much going on,
and it's it is difficult for me at times. I
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feel overwhelmed because there are so many things in it.
It oftentimes appears in the text messages why don't you
talk about this today? Why didn't you talk about that today?
To which I usually reply. If I do reply, get
your own damn show. And then you go figure out
what you want to talk about, because unless you're talking
about what you're interested in, it's not gonna be very interesting.
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You have to have a passion about what it is
that you're discussing. And this is passionate to me because
it's a great example of how social media, which I
have always said is both good and bad. But if
you don't cautiously use social media, or if you just
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allow yourself to be trapped into just taking everything at
face value, and you become one of the how many
the one of the seventy four thousand people that liked
this story or the thirty five thousand that reposted it.
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Now listen to some of the comments. The comments are
pretty interesting because it shows it shows just how crazy
our society is. Somebody posted us a meme about USAID,
which I have no clue what this has to do
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with the story, but it's a meme about USAID. It's
all just international money laundering, always has been. And then
Doge standing behind you know, people in the astronaut suits
killing the person in front of them. Who's killing the
person in front of them? That's hilarious. Somebody posts a
story about the New World Order and the UN's twenty
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thirty agenda about what we're going to eat and not eat.
I think somebody left the text message yesterday about this
is all part of it. You know, we're gonna get
rid of cows and get rid of chickens. We're all
gonna eat bugs. Well, you know, yes, they talk about that,
but I don't think that's really going to happen. Now,
do we run into some dystopian future way out somewhere,
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you know, fifty years, one hundred years from now, where
suddenly that's the only source of protein we have. I
don't disbelieve in dystopian futures because I understand based on
things I've had to deal with that. We really could
have sorts of all sorts of world calamities. This is interesting.
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See this is a comment I didn't see yesterday, but
here it is today. Somebody writes, somebody says, AI says,
so they're quoting some form of artificial intelligence. As of
December of twenty three, there were three hundred eighty nine
million egg laying chickens in the United States. This was
a three percent increase from the previous year. In twenty
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twenty two, the average number of eggs produced per layer
was two hundred and eighty nine, approximately six eggs per week.
That's two trillion, three hundred and thirty four or two billion,
three hundred and thirty four million eggs per week. Okay,
I'm not sure why your point is, but they try
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to point out that somehow it's price scouting. Then there
was this, see if I can find this one again. Oh,
this person says escorted out, probably true, arrested. Can't find
on any news site. Improper calling chickens hard to determine
at this point, and they cite a USA Today article.
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Then there was I do want to read this one
to you because it's kind of disgusting. Oh, some guy
named Harold writes, Now, this woman's name is Phyllis Fong Fong.
That's a Chinese surname. Is she dual citizenship? Does she
have family connections to communists China? You know? Really, so
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anybody who has an Asian surname is susceptible to being
a connection to the Chinese Communist Party. I'd say that's
pretty racist and paranoid. Racist and paranoid. Finally, someone points
out that from a NEWSMAC story, there was no arrest.
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She was just escorted out of the building for defying
President Trump's firing. So yeah, when Trump fired all these
inspectors general, then of course that there see that part
is true. That has nothing to do with the price
of eggs. The commis just go on and on and on,
and yesterday I started to post up because I don't
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know how, but I became someone who can posed a
community note on X and I was going to do that,
and I comprised. I composed one, but then it asked,
do you have any link to support the point you're making?
And it's like proving a negative. I couldn't because there
were no stories. I couldn't find any stories that debunct
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it until I later in the day found the Snope story.
So it just don't be careful what you read, be
cautious about spreading things, and always look at things with
somewhat of a lawyer brain. Is this true? Because it
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may not be.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Where was that outreach? In nineteen ninety three, when Bill
Clinton issued an executive order to reduce the federal workforce
by one hundred thousand employees, he had listed that each
department or agency that had over one hundred employees must
reduce its workforce by at least for per over the
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next three years. Never an outreach then.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No, because they knew that he didn't really mean it.
There is a Bill Clinton has a new memoir out
or maybe it's coming out. I've read excerpts from it,
and it's the gist of what I've read about it
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is he's trying to kind of not rehabilitate himself, but
kind of do a little bit of revisionist history. And
I don't know that that particular part, because he does
talk a little bit about how he had to work
with Nut Genrich and the contract with America election and
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kind of move back to the center, and that may
or may not be in the book. I don't know,
but clearly there is an attempt from the Clintons right
now to kind of do this revisionist history. Now, remember
that this is something true about executive orders. The big
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news is always that the president signs the executive order.
And Trump has been an absolute amazing marketing genius, an
absolute producer genius. And these executive orders, not only are
they doing publicly, oftentimes in the Oval office with a
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gaggle of reporters there and then just take questions. I mean,
he just he's signing documents as as the Cabinet secretary
is telling him what he's signing, and you know, all
this is yeah, this is a big one. This is
a really good one. And you know he looks up
at the reporters. What do you think about that? You know,
and so he's making a big deal of it. And
then of course, just like this morning, I wake up
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in my inbox, my White House inbox, and that is
now full of all these comms emails out you know,
what the president's doing and what they're doing today, and
blah blah blah, all this stuff. And this is not
meant to criticize Trump, because I think it'll be slightly different.
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But let's see, you know, a year from now, how
many of these executive orders, how far they've gone. I
think all of them will make some progress, just like
Bill Clinton probably made a little progress, and there were
some people somewhere because they have to be able to
show that we did something. So Clinton could probably go
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back and show, yeah, you know, I ordered this reduction
in force one hundred thousand. You know, if truth be told,
if there was an actual audit done, there may have
been instead of one hundred thousand, it might have been
a thousand. But it still allows you to lay claim
that I reduced the federal workforce. And some of the
same things may be going on here too. It it's
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we're The other thing that's going on right now is
that all of these executive orders and actions that he's
taking are so difficult to keep up with that the
media cannot keep up with it. Which is why I
think at some point once they've got to get off
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their asses and get these cabinet secretaries in the position. Because,
for example, somebody asked me, why on the text line,
why wasn't the IG of the of the Department of Justice,
Michael Horowitz. Why wasn't he fired, Well, because I think
they were waiting for Pam Bondi to get in so
she could find out what he knows.
Good morning, Michael and Dragon.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Since we love countdown so much around here, only a
few seconds till the BS begins.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That fits kind of perfectly with what I'm starting out
with today, Sure doesn't it? With this total BS total BS?
I was going to because I walked in this morning
and I said down, I was running a little bit
late this morning, and I have a friend that's stuck
in an airport, and so i'd listened to his story
(00:28):
of woe, which you know, I feel bad when someone
calls you because they're on their way, like overseas and
they know their flights that's arriving in Denver is late,
and so they start counting down to make sure that
you know, am I going to make my connection in
San Francisco? And so they're texting me yesterday that you know,
(00:50):
I don't think I'm going to make my connection. Of course,
I'm an aggressi flyer, like I guess I'm an agressy driver.
I'm aggressy flyer. I already start looking for alternatives, knowing
that I'm probably gonna miss that fly even if I
even if I land in San Francisco, knowing the gates,
I'm not going to be able to get from Gate
eighty Gate B. So I'm already, you know, chatting with
a gate agent or I'm on the app whatever, already
(01:12):
looking for alternatives. And I can't understand why. I mean,
because he flies all the time, I can understand why
he's not doing this. And and then I wake up
this morning and there's a text message and he's sitting
on a bench in San Francisco in SFO, and he
has been all night long, and I just, you know,
and he's waiting on bags. He's been waiting for four
(01:34):
hours for bags. And I'm like, well, why why are
you waiting four hours for bags? You know? Have you
been to the baggage Fame office? You know? And I
don't know. Just the whole point is, I just I
It bothers me when something happens and I can't or
(01:57):
I feel helpless, like I can't do anything to help
somebody or to help the situation, or I can't correct something.
It's not entirely analogous, but this happened to me yesterday
and it really drives me crazy. So one of the
things that I get to do, which I consider to
(02:19):
be I'm lucky I get to do it. It's also,
I mean, everything has its good side and it's bad side,
I suppose. But when I'm doing show prep, I get
to like open up x formerly Twitter and just go through.
And because I've got a lot of followers, I can
(02:42):
just go to my timeline and just see what all
my followers are saying and talking about, and find news
stories and find interesting things. And I'm doing that yesterday
and I run across a post that catches my eye
because it it's from someone that I don't know this
(03:04):
person personally at all, but they are a disabled Marine
Corps Gulf War veteran, husband, father, grandfather's the way they
go on to describe themselves, an ac networking engineer, a
business owner, and America First guy. So you know, this
(03:24):
guy follows me. So I'm reading through, and you know,
he's got twenty one He's got slightly more followers than
I do. He's at twenty one thousand. I'm at twenty thousand.
But he posted something that caught my eye because the
first sentence is arrested, COMMA arrested. USDA Inspector Phyllis Fong,
(03:49):
a twenty two year Deep State operative, is one of
the key players behind the artificial inflation of poultry and
egg prices in the United State fates, she ordered the
calling of millions of healthy birds using the fake excuse
of mutating bird flu. But here's the truth. There was
(04:11):
no pandemic. Now, if you listen very closely to me,
you might understand why that caught my eye. Two reasons. One,
we spent I don't know a for a four hour
program a significant amount of time yesterday talking about bird flu.
(04:32):
And I had said that the day before I had
been interested in bird flu, and I started asking a
question about whether bird flu could be passed on to eggs,
which then led to a lot of text messages, a
lot of conversation about bird flu and the eggs. I
can't find any scientific evidence that bird flu is transmitted
(04:53):
to the eggs. Then I learned the difference between a broiler,
which is a chicken ray for meat versus a chicken
that is raised for eggs. Chickens that are raised for
broilers are, uh, they don't live, but you know, I
have to go back and look, but just for a
few months, because they get pumped up with so much
antibiotics and the food that they eat and everything else
(05:15):
that if they don't you know, harvest those chickens. Their
their legs will break so real quick. Just imagine being
named for how you're going to be cooked, right exactly.
We should start, well, you know, dragon, we should look
to go around like, let's go around the buildings that
when people start showing up, and let's you and I
just look at individual people and think, well, how will
(05:36):
we cook them? Barbecue? Yeah? Right, and then we could
we could start. I guarantee you there's nobody here's gonna
be sushi oven baked.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, there's nobody here's gonna be sushi none at all.
There's all of this conversation yesterday about bird flu. So
this caught my eye. Now, there was something in the
first paragraph that unless I think you have background or
you have a similar background to me, you've probably glossed
over it. But here's what it said. Arrested USDA US
(06:12):
Department of Agriculture inspector Phyllis Fong. So when I think
about a USDA inspector, the very first thing I think
about is literally an inspector, you know, like a health inspector.
Someone that goes to uh, you know, goes to a
chicken farm, a poultry farm, goes to a restaurant, goes,
(06:35):
you know, to a slaughter house, goes to a meat
packing plant, goes somewhere. They're the USDA. You know, us
DA inspected, So I thought it's one of those people.
So that caught my eye. I'm thinking, oh, everything we
talked about yesterday, Here is some additional information, because listen
to the rest of the of the post. It's a
(06:57):
fairly large post. So let me just read through the
entirety of the posts knowing that what this guy is
saying is that this is a USDA inspector and a
deep state operative and is one of the key players
behind the artificial inflation of poultry and eight prices because
she ordered the culling of millions of healthy birds using
(07:19):
the fake excuse of the mutating bird flu. And then
but here's the truth, in all caps, there was no pandemic.
So of course this naturally catches my eye. Here's the
rest of his post. Phyllis Fong personally ordered mass bird
exterminations in twenty twenty four, targeting farms in Colorado, Ohio, Arizona, Louisiana,
(07:46):
and Nebraska. One case in Louisiana set the stage. A
man parentheses who did not work on a poultry farm.
Closed bread was allegedly diagnosed with H five in one
after quote finding dead birds close quote in his yard.
The CDC then in all caps, invented. The CDC then
(08:07):
invented a panic story claiming sixty six people were infected.
Sources say that number is all caps entirely fabricated. Excuse me.
Before the media even blasted this fake outbreak, Fong and
Biden's corrupt FDA sent teams of inspectors in full hazmat
(08:32):
suits to Nebraska, ordering the instant killing of six hundred
thousand birds. The farm owner, who recently tested his flock
and found zero signs of bird flu, refused, but it
didn't matter. Fong had already signed off on the order,
threatening him with four billion dollars in fines and prison
(08:56):
time if he didn't comply. She thought she was untouchable.
When Trump began cleansing the deep state in January, she
refused to leave, publicly claiming Trump had no authority over
federal watchdogs. The next day, karma strucked security forced her out,
(09:17):
delivering her straight to JAG investigators. Now you know why
the price of eggs have shot through the roof. Now,
what I want to do is I want to dissect this.
But before I dissect it, I want you to know
this is entirely false. It's entirely false. But there's some
(09:40):
wording in here again which caught my eye that made
me start to dig further on this story. And it
is a it is a quintessentially classic example of Now,
my guess is, if you're an ex and if you're
on Facebook, you'll find this post and you'll find a
(10:04):
picture of this woman. Now again, part of the reason
that this is going to take up portions of this
program today is because I know what it's like to
be falsely accused of something, and I know what it's
like when your photo gets plastered all over And this
(10:28):
was even before social media was really a thing. We're
going back to two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
So I've got a real bugaboo about people who are
falsely accused of doing something that they did not do
and using half truths and partial language out of other
stories to compile a compilation of just bull crap, utter
(10:52):
bull crap. And then it pisses me off because I thought,
based on our conversation yesterday I was going to because
I then went down the rabbit hole, because you know me,
I can't let it go. I went down the rabbit hole, thinking, aha,
I have found a USDA inspector who is the source
of the slaughter of all of these chickens, and I
(11:13):
can talk about it tomorrow. Well, sure enough, here I
am talking about it tomorrow, but not for the reasons
that you think, for the reasons that it's a completely falsehood.
It's a total, complete falsehood. And it's a great example
of how things spread so rapidly. I mean, I think
(11:35):
about how things spread rapidly with me, this spread even
more rapidly. So I go down the rabbit hole. I
first want to find out who you know, misfallng, who
is Phyllis Fong. So I go on Lexus and Nexus
and I checked Phyllis Fong. Well it turns out now,
(11:56):
remember it said that she's in USDA inspector. She's not
a USDA inspector. She was the Department of Agriculture's Inspector General,
which is an entirely different category of personnel. She's a
(12:16):
presidential appointee, she's not, and she's not a poultry inspector.
She's the inspect or. She was the inspector general of
the United States Department of Agriculture. So when I first
discovered that by just finding the first story about her,
the truthful story about her, I thought, oh my god.
(12:40):
I went back and read the post again, and sure enough,
the post talks about because remember I said that she
refused to do something that she had signed off an order.
And then at the very end of the post, this
guy wrote, when Trump began cleansing the deep state in January,
(13:02):
she refused to leave, publicly claiming Trump had no authority
over federal watchdogs. That statement is true. She was one
of the inspector generals that Trump fired because he wanted
to put in his own inspector generals, and she did
(13:25):
refuse to leave her office, and either the Federal Protective
Service or the US Marshals, I'm not quite sure which,
but some law enforcement authorities, in other words, people with guns,
showed up her at her office and escorted her out
of the USDA building. So you see, here's a great
(13:45):
example of throw in a little bit of truth but
apply it to something that's totally false. And the conclusion
this entire story was now you know why the price
of eggs have shot through the roof. No, I do not,
because now I understand that you have completely made up
(14:10):
out of thin air a story about a woman who
was not an inspector. She was the inspector general. She
was one of the people that got terminated by the president,
which was the group of inspector generals, and she was
one that refused to leave her office until law enforcement
showed up and escorted her out of the building. Nothing
(14:33):
at all to do with the slaughter of birds. I
then decided that it was time to Okay, well, maybe
I can find out who did order the slaughter of birds.
So I go back to Lexus Nexus again and I'm
digging through trying to find everything. And by the way,
when I talk about using Lexus and Nexus, this is
this is not something that's free. This is something that
(14:54):
costs money to do. So I'm actually spending resources which
this company will out imburse me for. But nonetheless I
use this because when I'm on this air, when I'm
doing this program, I want to be able to cite
quality sources about you know, whether things are true or
not true. And I want to get to the because
I truly am curious about this whole thing about why
(15:17):
are we slaughtering birds when the eggs don't transmit the disease?
Or why when we have one bird do we slaughter
thousands of birds? Because if you've identified that one bird,
why don't you kill that one bird? I mean, I
understand that I may not fully comprehend how it spreads
or transmits inside a poultry farm, but I still would
(15:41):
just like some answers, I dig did some digging and
kept digging and digging and digging, and they're just no stories.
There are no stories other than there's stories about, you know,
we're slaughtering all these birds and they're slaughtering all this
bird flu. But then I come across Snopes. Now I
(16:01):
don't put a lot of credibility in Snopes, but when
you're now I'm off Lexis nexas and now I'm doing
a Google search. And remember sometimes I specifically go to
Google as opposed to duck duck go because I want
to see what they're feeding me, because they're going to
feed me what they want me to see, and they
(16:22):
wanted me to see the Snope story. Guess what the
headline is a Snopes USDA Inspector General did not order
mass extermination of bird's drive up cost of poultry and
eggs the claim, and they repeat the very first claim
(16:44):
that this guy had posted on X. But then they
they rate the claim as false and write this following
the forcible removable of Phyllis Fong, the former Inspector General,
the former Inspector General of the Department of from her
office after she ignored President Donald Trump's termination order in
(17:05):
late January, twenty five posts shared online and They've got
them Archive began to claim that she was the key
player behind the artificial inflation of poetry and eg prices
in the US. And it links to a Facebook post,
And I go to the Facebook post and the Facebook
post is an article from the Guardian. So I look
(17:28):
at the Guardian story. The Guardian story is about her
being escorted out of the building. It has nothing to
do whatsoever with her allegedly ordering the extermination of chickens.
But before you click on the Guardian story on Facebook,
(17:49):
it has the same thing that he has over on X.
Do you see how this misinformation just spreads like the
Pacific allis ages fire. Is it too early to make
that comparison? Do you see how early it just spreads,
like the Marshall fire. You see how quickly it just
spreads like Oh, I don't know USAI d money to
(18:13):
fund you know, drag shows in Peru? Do you get it?
The point I want to make is simply this, anybody
can anybody can fall for these false stories. And I'm
fortunate enough from the position that this is my job,
so I get to dig around. But the lesson to learn,
(18:35):
I think, is one, when you read something, please don't
take it at face value, and to be really careful
because a guy that said well shows that engineers are crazy,
but a guy who has a pretty good bio is
as susceptible to it as anybody else. Oh, Master, poor
(18:56):
grasshopper here figured out that story was wrong and thirty
seconds and was going to bring it to you to
find that you already knew. I should just listen. Yeah,
that's right, by golly. That's why I'm the talent and
(19:17):
you're just the goober. But I'm not done yet because well,
one there's a text message I want to address. But
two the point about this is now I pulled the
original post back up so far it has two point
(19:38):
four million views. Now that doesn't mean that two point
four million people agreed with it, But two point four
million people have seen this now, almost five thousand people
have commented, thirty five thousand reposted it. Now, I don't
know whether all of those reposts could have done like
(20:01):
I could have done last night and put this is
a false story and reposted it. But thirty five thousand
people have spread it, seventy four thousand people have liked it,
and eleven thousand people have bookmarked it, meaning that they
have kept it in their information because they now think
and I, you know, I was I had a meeting
(20:24):
yesterday and during the meeting, it was a business meeting,
and it's you know, it was a well it was
it was a bit. That's all you need to know
is it was a business meeting and I had to
do this. Yet you know, look, do Dragon and I
sometimes are we susceptible to having the wool pulled over
(20:47):
our eyes? Absolutely? But I'm sitting in this lunch meeting
and something is said about I forget what it was,
and I had to win, oh time and time out,
that's that's not true. Well, but you know, blah blah
blah blah blah. Well, no, because of X y Z.
So I'm doing this all the time, and I just
(21:08):
I am amazed at the amount of stuff that gets reposted,
spread emailed, tweeted, posted on Facebook. Whatever it is that
is just utterly false, and it really confounded. It confounds
me because I know that I'm susceptible to it, just
(21:33):
like I could have easily fallen for this because it
caught my eye because you know, one of the things
I do when I'm looking at posts on X particularly
one that catches my eye because I have so many followers,
don't I don't personally know everybody that follows me, So
I look at their bio because I'm always curious about
their Yes, sometimes they tell you a lot, sometimes they
(21:54):
don't tell you anything. But here's a guy that's, you know,
an engineer and has got all this background. He's retired marine. Well,
you know, so I give some credence to that, and
then I when I read the post, I'm thinking it
just something. My radar goes off and says it's just
(22:14):
not right. Now. The other point I want to make
it is with regard to a text message that says
this is from Guber number sixty seven ninety one Mike,
when you started talking about the story, I wanted to
verify if it was true. I came across a Snopes
fact check that said the story was false. When I
(22:37):
read the fact check, it said it was unproven. So
is the entire So is the story entirely false as
Snope says, or is it unsubstantiated, unproven? And should Snopes
flag it that? It was? That it flag it that woe?
So should Snopes flag it that way instead of false? Well,
(23:00):
here's the problem that Snoops has. There are truths in
this post. Let's see where did this truth start? See
dig into it. She is part of the deep state,
in that seatless When Trump began cleansing the deep state
(23:24):
in January, she refused to leave, publicly claiming Trump troup,
publicly claiming Trump had no authority over federal watchdogs. That
is true. That's exactly true, And in fact, you could
even argue that part of the next sentence is true too.
(23:47):
The next day, karma struck. Security forced her out. That
is true. Whether you want to call it karma or not,
I don't care, but that is true. Security forced her out.
But then the closing clause of the sentence is false,
delivering her straight to JAG investigators Judge Advocate General of
(24:10):
the military JAG investigators. No, so Karma did strike and
security did force her out, but they didn't shackle her
and deliver her to a JAG investor over it, you
know Fort Belvoir or at you know, Fort Mead or
at the Pentagon somewhere. No, they did, they didn't do that.
(24:32):
They didn't do it. So I'm not trying to look
Snope semi Snopes is like Wikipedia, Wikipedia, you know, the
book of knowledge. Wikipedia is if you just want to
get some basic things as your starting point. I don't
have problems people going to Wikipedia, but don't buy everything
(24:53):
that Wikipedia says. Snopes same thing. At least Snopes is
addressing that the plane that she ordered the culling of
millions of healthy birds using the fake excuse of mutating
bird flu that is demonstrably false. So without dwelling on
(25:15):
this forever this morning, which I really do want to
dwell on it, because there's so much As as I
told this person that a's a business meeting yesterday. They
were talking, you know, asking questions about, you know, how
the show's going, and you know, and asking me a
lot of questions about what Trump's doing and everything else,
(25:37):
and I made the comment that show prep for me
has has we don't get me wrong, I still enjoy it,
but there is so much going on, so much going on,
and it's it is difficult for me at times. I
(26:00):
feel overwhelmed because there are so many things in it.
It oftentimes appears in the text messages why don't you
talk about this today? Why didn't you talk about that today?
To which I usually reply. If I do reply, get
your own damn show. And then you go figure out
what you want to talk about, because unless you're talking
about what you're interested in, it's not gonna be very interesting.
(26:21):
You have to have a passion about what it is
that you're discussing. And this is passionate to me because
it's a great example of how social media, which I
have always said is both good and bad. But if
you don't cautiously use social media, or if you just
(26:42):
allow yourself to be trapped into just taking everything at
face value, and you become one of the how many
the one of the seventy four thousand people that liked
this story or the thirty five thousand that reposted it.
(27:02):
Now listen to some of the comments. The comments are
pretty interesting because it shows it shows just how crazy
our society is. Somebody posted us a meme about USAID,
which I have no clue what this has to do
(27:23):
with the story, but it's a meme about USAID. It's
all just international money laundering, always has been. And then
Doge standing behind you know, people in the astronaut suits
killing the person in front of them. Who's killing the
person in front of them? That's hilarious. Somebody posts a
story about the New World Order and the UN's twenty
(27:47):
thirty agenda about what we're going to eat and not eat.
I think somebody left the text message yesterday about this
is all part of it. You know, we're gonna get
rid of cows and get rid of chickens. We're all
gonna eat bugs. Well, you know, yes, they talk about that,
but I don't think that's really going to happen. Now,
do we run into some dystopian future way out somewhere,
(28:09):
you know, fifty years, one hundred years from now, where
suddenly that's the only source of protein we have. I
don't disbelieve in dystopian futures because I understand based on
things I've had to deal with that. We really could
have sorts of all sorts of world calamities. This is interesting.
(28:31):
See this is a comment I didn't see yesterday, but
here it is today. Somebody writes, somebody says, AI says,
so they're quoting some form of artificial intelligence. As of
December of twenty three, there were three hundred eighty nine
million egg laying chickens in the United States. This was
a three percent increase from the previous year. In twenty
(28:53):
twenty two, the average number of eggs produced per layer
was two hundred and eighty nine, approximately six eggs per week.
That's two trillion, three hundred and thirty four or two billion,
three hundred and thirty four million eggs per week. Okay,
I'm not sure why your point is, but they try
(29:13):
to point out that somehow it's price scouting. Then there
was this, see if I can find this one again. Oh,
this person says escorted out, probably true, arrested. Can't find
on any news site. Improper calling chickens hard to determine
at this point, and they cite a USA Today article.
(29:37):
Then there was I do want to read this one
to you because it's kind of disgusting. Oh, some guy
named Harold writes, Now, this woman's name is Phyllis Fong Fong.
That's a Chinese surname. Is she dual citizenship? Does she
have family connections to communists China? You know? Really, so
(30:04):
anybody who has an Asian surname is susceptible to being
a connection to the Chinese Communist Party. I'd say that's
pretty racist and paranoid. Racist and paranoid. Finally, someone points
out that from a NEWSMAC story, there was no arrest.
(30:27):
She was just escorted out of the building for defying
President Trump's firing. So yeah, when Trump fired all these
inspectors general, then of course that there see that part
is true. That has nothing to do with the price
of eggs. The commis just go on and on and on,
and yesterday I started to post up because I don't
(30:51):
know how, but I became someone who can posed a
community note on X and I was going to do that,
and I comprised. I composed one, but then it asked,
do you have any link to support the point you're making?
And it's like proving a negative. I couldn't because there
were no stories. I couldn't find any stories that debunct
(31:12):
it until I later in the day found the Snope story.
So it just don't be careful what you read, be
cautious about spreading things, and always look at things with
somewhat of a lawyer brain. Is this true? Because it
(31:35):
may not be.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Where was that outreach? In nineteen ninety three, when Bill
Clinton issued an executive order to reduce the federal workforce
by one hundred thousand employees, he had listed that each
department or agency that had over one hundred employees must
reduce its workforce by at least for per over the
(32:01):
next three years. Never an outreach then.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No, because they knew that he didn't really mean it.
There is a Bill Clinton has a new memoir out
or maybe it's coming out. I've read excerpts from it,
and it's the gist of what I've read about it
(32:27):
is he's trying to kind of not rehabilitate himself, but
kind of do a little bit of revisionist history. And
I don't know that that particular part, because he does
talk a little bit about how he had to work
with Nut Genrich and the contract with America election and
(32:47):
kind of move back to the center, and that may
or may not be in the book. I don't know,
but clearly there is an attempt from the Clintons right
now to kind of do this revisionist history. Now, remember
that this is something true about executive orders. The big
(33:08):
news is always that the president signs the executive order.
And Trump has been an absolute amazing marketing genius, an
absolute producer genius. And these executive orders, not only are
they doing publicly, oftentimes in the Oval office with a
(33:31):
gaggle of reporters there and then just take questions. I mean,
he just he's signing documents as as the Cabinet secretary
is telling him what he's signing, and you know, all
this is yeah, this is a big one. This is
a really good one. And you know he looks up
at the reporters. What do you think about that? You know,
and so he's making a big deal of it. And
then of course, just like this morning, I wake up
(33:53):
in my inbox, my White House inbox, and that is
now full of all these comms emails out you know,
what the president's doing and what they're doing today, and
blah blah blah, all this stuff. And this is not
meant to criticize Trump, because I think it'll be slightly different.
(34:14):
But let's see, you know, a year from now, how
many of these executive orders, how far they've gone. I
think all of them will make some progress, just like
Bill Clinton probably made a little progress, and there were
some people somewhere because they have to be able to
show that we did something. So Clinton could probably go
(34:36):
back and show, yeah, you know, I ordered this reduction
in force one hundred thousand. You know, if truth be told,
if there was an actual audit done, there may have
been instead of one hundred thousand, it might have been
a thousand. But it still allows you to lay claim
that I reduced the federal workforce. And some of the
same things may be going on here too. It it's
(35:06):
we're The other thing that's going on right now is
that all of these executive orders and actions that he's
taking are so difficult to keep up with that the
media cannot keep up with it. Which is why I
think at some point once they've got to get off
(35:26):
their asses and get these cabinet secretaries in the position. Because,
for example, somebody asked me, why on the text line,
why wasn't the IG of the of the Department of Justice,
Michael Horowitz. Why wasn't he fired, Well, because I think
they were waiting for Pam Bondi to get in so
she could find out what he knows.
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Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!