Episode 114: Large Intestine

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
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Speaker 1 (01:42):
Is this year we are worlds by us so quickly.
We're already into November now, and November brings us to
the second organ that's linked to the metal.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Organ, the metal element.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, sorry, the metal element and the meddal organ. But
as we talk about the metal element, what is it
and whin metal and why now?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well, as you mentioned last month, metal has to do
with protection of self while moving into the winter and
the months of shutting down and hibernation our large intestine
for this time versus what we just left, which was
the lung. Energy is part of the metal element, and
so this particular month we focus on the health of
the large intestine, which will influence the lungs, and we'll

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also have an influence with the largest organ in the body,
which is the skin. And all three of those, the skin,
the large intestine, and the lungs make up the metal element.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
So what is the role of the large intestine.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
There's so many mark absorbing water, producing and absorbing vitamins,
forming and propelling feces, neutralizing acidity, protecting against infection, immunity,
and breaking down of billy rubin. I mean, there's just
lots of things that the large intestine does, and I.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Think I just thought it was really just about receiving
and transporting the waste material out of your body just
to elimination.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, it is involved in that, and that's certainly one
of the things that it does. It is the final
opportunity to absorb what is necessary for the functioning and
maintenance of the body based on the ingredients that have
been offered to the system.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So, but I didn't really realize how much there was
the absorbing of nutrients and fluids that happens in the
large intestine. I just thought it was about getting it out.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, again, it's the final opportunity of the body to
sift through the waste for any residual needs to support
the body.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Doing its job in a healthy, normal fashion.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Now, this is the time of year where you're dealing
with the organ elimination. Why this time of the year,
Why is that the right time?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, this is the time nature.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Let's go of what has run its course before shutting
down and to start again in the spring. And the
large intestine is the final arbiter of the process with
our solid and so the energy is highest in the
large intestine, making sure that we're getting all the necessary
ingredients that are available to us as we head into winter,

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where the body and the energy of the body shuts down.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, you said it had to do with the solids,
but also you were talking about how the fact that
your large intestine actually helps you maintain the proper balance
of moisture in your body.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Then the fluid level, Sure, it's forced the reabsorption of
water from the digestive tract as ordered by the kidneys
based upon their needs for the body. And so the
kidneys communicates with the large intestine and says we need
a little bit more fluid over here in a kidney
organ and so the large intestine will accommodate by absorbing
as much fluid that they can out of what's coming

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through your digestive system.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, that would sound like that might lead if you're
not getting enough water in your diet that you might
be constipated if it's extracting moisture out of your large
in testine.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, that's exactly right, and so constipation typically has to
do with an imbalance and the large intestine and the
hydration levels of the person. Most people don't drink enough water.
We need to drink one quart of water for every
fifty pounds we weigh, and that's every single day.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
You're going to enhance that with more.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Water based upon the exercise levels that you do in
addition to what you.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Need just to get through your day.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
So if you're exercising by lifting weights and doing some
anaerobic activity, you're going to need one cord of water
for every hour that you do that. And if you're
working out aerobically by running or an elliptical or cycling
or rowing or whatever the case happens to be, you're

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going to need another court for every half hour of
doing that.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Now, how does the large intestine divide up what's coming
out in terms of the solids and the fluids as
it goes through your system?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well down the consistency of the material. Solids can't be absorbed,
but liquids can. The liquids are satisfying the needs again
of the kidneys as mentioned, and the solids are released
by the large intestine out into the toilet.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
He also said that the third thing that's related to
this time of year as an organ of eliminations the skin.
So how does the skin conditions relate to the large intestine.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, the skin is also a filter and the largest
filter of the body itself, and within the metal element,
it is the external filters for the outside of the body,
where the lungs and the large intestine are for the
air and the solids respectively. And so the skin is
also a protective barrier and acts as a shield based
upon what the body lets in versus what it doesn't

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let in.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Now, again this has to do with the metal element,
And I guess you know, one of the things that
is interesting to try to get my head around in
terms of this theory is things I fire and wood
and earth. Those all seem to be nature. But I've
always thought of metal as something that humans have actually
taken minerals and converted them into metals. So is there

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some relationship that has to do with what the purpose
of metal is and how it relates to your health
concerning those kind of things.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, again, metals is a protective barrier. You know, human
beings have used shields all through our earlier history, and
what was the purpose of a shield. It would protect
you from the elements that we're trying to attack you.
And so the metal element related to the lungs, large

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intestine in skin has to do with that protective barrier,
and it's the last line of defense before something actually
physically gets into the body, either through your skin, either
through breathing in the air that we breathe in and
then it crossing into the bloodstream, or whether it comes
in through our digestive system and then ultimately gets absorbed and.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Reconcile within the large intestine.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I guess you were saying at the beginning, you're really
dealing with there's the things coming in, but then also
the things going out. So just like you're breathing, you
breathe in and then you exhale out right right, you
eat food and then you release it back out.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right, and things come in through the skin, and you
excrete things out through the skin through sweating and perspiration
and all of that. And so you know, ideally those
three main barriers external filters, your lungs, large intestine, and
skin that make up the metal element acts as a discerner,

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if you will. That helps the body figure out what
to allow versus what not to allow into the body proper.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now, in this relationship between the lungs and the large intestine,
both these metal elements, is there a relationship between the
conditions you might have like congestion and coughing. Do those
relate to what's going on in the large intestine at all?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Well, they do because.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Part of the respiratory system that is tied up to
the digestive elimination system. So the extension of the lungs
are your sinuses, okay, and the lungs is the counterbalance
to the large intestine. And so when you get congestion
in your large intestine and the lungs try to help

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out in it as an indicator of what the body's
dealing with is you're gonna end up having congestion in
your sinuses and so helping the body to release and
to let go. A lot of times when a person
comes to my office and they have a lot of
nasal congestion, we'll have a discussion. We'll probably do some

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emotional work on what they're holding onto, what is involved
in creating the congested thoughts that they're experiencing that ultimately
leads to the head congestion, and will help them to
understand how to process so that they can release that,
so that their sinuses can open back up again and
they're no longer constipated and things begin to flow the

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way that they're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So why do so many people have problems with elimination?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, in terms of what we talked about last month
with the lungs and proper breathing, you know, diaphragmatic breathing
and belly breathing is something that the average person doesn't
typically do because we are as human beings, we are
emotional holders.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
And so what that.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Does is that paralyzes or freezes the diaphragm's ability to
expand and contract. So people become chest breathers and they
breathe in an upward fashion. As opposed to in a
downward fast and this interferes with paristosis and ultimately leads
to constipation and leads to more congestion. And so just
understanding the cascade of effects that are associated between how

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the bowels are moving and the impact that that can
have in its counter organ which is the lungs, and
the extension of the lungs, which is the sinuses that
leave the head congestion.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
So do all these problems kind of hover around the
big problem of constipation.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Possibly, or the opposite of constipation could be diarrhea where
things are going through faster than they should be going
through and there isn't enough opportunity, and then the body
has to fight for different resources and has to make
choices as a result of that.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
That too can lead to congestion.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Even though the lower half of that pair is actually
not congested at all.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's actually flowing too freely.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Too freely. So I mean, can these be a result
of improper eating and drinking or are there other factors?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, they're definitely has everything to do with what you eat.
You know, the phrase you are what you eat is
very valid in terms of this question. And so it's
like Okay, if you're consuming foods that are difficult for
the body to break down and digest and process and
move through you, then you're setting yourself up for constipation.
And once you get constipation and things aren't being processed

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through the body the way that they're supposed to, that's
going to put pressure on your liver and your gallbladder,
and that's going to create problems in some of the
other organs and hormonal system, etc. And so you want
to keep things moving and the best way to do
that is to make sure that your metal element is
intact by breathing properly, expanding and contracting your diaphragm in

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the belly breathing that you're doing, which massage is a
digestive organ and helps to promote normal paristolsis and normal digestion.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So is the problem that you're not getting enough fiber
in your diet. That's the thing I keep hearing about
and various advertisements and stuff. It is to add more
fiber to your diet and that will help.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, that may be part of it, but what we
need to appreciate that that fiber isn't going to be
a be all, end all If you're not having enough
fiber in your diet, then you're going to have other
deficiencies as well, and so you want to You could
just try to manage it yourself and go out and
buy some meta fiber or some whatever fiber that's out

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there on the stores and increase the amount of that
that you're doing, but you ultimately want to consult with
somebody that can help assess what is the current level
of functioning within your intestines and then what's going on
with counterbalances that the intestines may be over compensating for
because of what's going on in your lungs or what's

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going on in your skin.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Now, I mean, I guess the fibrous types of food
are considered prebiotics, and then one of the things that
you're advocating for your digestive health is a probiotic. So
how do those two things relate.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, the probiotics sets up the foundation for which the
probiotic can thrive. And so by having fibery type foods
that act as a prebiotic, it sets up the home,
if you will, that's going to promote the normal growth, expansion,
and maintenance of a good microbiome. And the probiotics that

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occupy that microbiome and.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
That fiber that's really part of the plants that you
can't digest. It kind of just go through you.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, it's the part of the plant that's harder to digest.
But it's not impossible if you have a healthy digestor
tract and a microbiome, and you use the thirty two
teeth that God gave you to chew your food and
help to begin digesting and pre digesting the fiber. And
there's an enzyme in your mouth known as salivary amylase,

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and so if you're chewing your food properly, the salivary
amylase is going to go to work on breaking down
that fiber mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And that I mean again, this whole idea is that
from from beginning to end, you want your digestive system
to be moving smoothly. So that microbiome is that everywhere
throughout your entire digestive system. And is it different at
the top of the digestive system versus what's going on

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in the large intestine.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yes, it changes as the portion of the digestive system changes.
And so you know you got three parts to your
small intestine. The duodenum, the jujunum, and the ilium. You've
got four parts to your large intestine, the asending, transverse descending,
and sigmoid Colin's. You know, you got the influence of

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your liver gallbladder system feeding into the first part of
your small intestine.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
You got your pancreas.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's also contributing to how things are going to be
processed in the upper part of your small intestine.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
And then what feeds the small.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Intestine, which happens to be the stomach where the food
you originally came into the body.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I would seem that this issue of constipation or I
guess it's counterpart diarrhea, either one of those could be
the source of a lot of different health problems.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I mean, at the end of the day, if you're
transit time it takes too long, okay, and things are stagnating,
that's going to lead to probably excessive absorption of things
that you shouldn't be absorbing, and ultimately that will lead
to problems and inflammation. And if food is going through
you too quickly and you don't have the opportunity to

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absorb the nutrition that is passing through the digestive system,
that too is going to create a problem to itself.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
So what kind of problems are you going to have?
If you have that kind of constant constipation.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
You're gonna have weight gain, toxicity, headaches, inflammation of the
colon also known as colitis, and then all the ramifications
that come as a result of those things just failed
slowly failed health over time, and which can manifest in
heart disease, can manifest in diabetes, it can manifest we've

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already mentioned obesity. You know, these are all things that
you could, if you understand it, get in front of
and be able to reconcile in a healthy way, as
opposed to, you know, throwing your hands up and giving
up because nobody seems to be giving you the right
information or the right advice.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Now, what about all the digestive gas that people produce?
Is that normal? Is that problematic?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, yes, it's normal, but it can become problematic, and
it's due to the overgrowth of yeast and candidia and
the fermentation of the carbohydrates in the system that create
the gas as a result of improper digestion. And so
having gas like that tells us that there's imbalances within
the digestive system. That you're going to need a professional

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similar to myself, that it will help you to understand
and unwind it so that you can get over it.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well, this is a good first introduction into the topic
of the large intestine and this last of the metal
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Speaker 1 (19:26):
So now that we've sort of covered a very generalized
view of what's going on with the large intestine. I
thought I would ask about some of the conditions that
people specifically may have where they're having some problems with it.
And the first one that I wanted to ask you
about is this alternative colitis. What is alternative colitis?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Also known as you see all sortive colitis is a
chronic inflammatory bowel disease that causes ulcers, an inflammation of
the colon and possibly the rectum. And it's not a
pleasant condition to have, but there's medication out there for it,
and I would rather you not take the medication for

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the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I would rather help you fix it.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's fixable.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
It is fixable.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, I imagine that everything that you're going to ask
me about, the commercials have probably told you that it
isn't fixable. I'm going to say that whatever you're going
to ask me about going forward in this section is fixable.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well. How interesting. Well let's find out. So the next
one I wanted to ask you, and I think you
mentioned this one in our first section, is irritable bowel syndrome.
What is irritable bowel syndrome?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Irritable bowel syndrome also known as IBS, is a chronic
condition that affects the digestive system and can cause discomfort
in the abdomen and changes in bowel habits. It's a
very non specific moniker that they give people. Your bowel

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is irritated and you've had it for a little while,
So we're going to call it a syndrome, and we're
gonna call it irritable bowel syndrome.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
So it's a syndrome. Is something less than a disease
or would you category that? Categorize those things in a
similar way?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, I would categorize those in a similar way. Irritable
bowel syndrome is considered a disease state. Alterative colitis is
considered a disease state. What's another one that you want to.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Ask about, diverticulitis.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's another disease state.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
It's condition that occurs when the small pouches in the
colon become inflamed or infected. But what they don't ever
tell you about diverticulitis is, well, why would your colon
create small out pouches in the colon when that's not
a normal circumstance. And that's basically the bodies trying to

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solve a surface area issue, and so it's if it
can't increase the length of the colon, it can increase
the surface area of the colon by putting a finger
shaped object either into the colon, which would be a polyp,
or it going out the other way, which would call

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it a diverticula. And when those get irritated and filled
with putrefying food that causes inflammation and irritation, then that's
the condition that they call diverticulitis.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, why would your large intestine need more surface area.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
If it's not getting enough value based upon the surface
area that it has. You know, we are a self healing,
self maintaining organism as long as we give our body
the right fuel that it needs to maintain itself. And
so when you don't have enough probiotics in the system
and it makes it hard for your body to absorb nutrition.

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If you can't absorb nutrition with the current sur that
you have in your large intestine, well then it makes
sense to me if we increase the amount of surface
area in your large intestine, then we would have a
better opportunity in absorbing what we need. And so that's
what a diverticula is. Or that's what you know a

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polyp would be. It's an opportunity. It's an effort by
the body to increase the surface area to allow for
more absorption of food through that digestive barrier.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Now, there's another thing that I've heard about quite a bit,
which is called Crone's disease. What is Crone disease.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's a chronic inflammatory bowel disease that causes inflammation in
the digestive tract. It doesn't necessarily have to be in
the large bowel. It can be in the small bowel
or what's known as the small intestine as well. And
so it's just that chronic inflammatory bowel disease.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
That is ultimately clinically Chrohn's disease.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Another condition is hemorrhoids. What are hemorrhoids in What causes them?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Hemorrhoids is swelling in the veins of the anus or
rectum that can be painful, itchy, or cause bleeding. What
causes them, They're typically caused by people who strain when
they're trying to have a bowel movement on the toilet.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
It also would be prominent in somebody.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That has that ability, that needs that ability to strain
in order to move their bowels, and they also have
a calcium deficiency, and so what happens is is some
of the blood vessels in the area they swell and
expand and balloon, if you will, and that's what ends
up becoming a hemorrhoid.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Now, can hemorrhoids be internal or external or either way, or.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
They can be both.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
They can be inside directum or just outside the anus there,
and so that's the difference between an internal hemorrhoid versus
an external hemorrhoid. But the management of them is still
the same, and we're going to definitely want to increase
a person's calcium levels in an effort to.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Stop that from happening more.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I guess the big word has got to be the
C word, you know, and chorectal cancer is one of
the reasons preventing that is one of the reasons that
doctors recommending getting colonoscopies.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, they say, if you're over the age of forty
five or fifty or whatever it is, that you should
have a colonoscopy. And it's the fear based mentality they
promote in healthcare, and it does serve a vital reason
for catching things early. My perspective is it should be
offered to those with symptoms in their large intestines, not
just simply given to everybody. And you know, there's certainly

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consequences that could come with having a colonoscopy, and that
there's things like bowel perforation, which actually is is more
common than finding colon cancer. Uh is the real reason
uh to use other methods to look for problems.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
You know, there's there's there's.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Different methods, and my thought is is that they need
to to develop technology that is a little bit more
appliable but still allows for the viewing inside the whole
distance of the colon without it being such a harsh,

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uh invasive way of of evaluating what the colon is
doing to see if there's any kind of problems with
the colon that would relate to the conditions that we've
talked about, the al sort of colitises, the irritable bowels,
the the colitis, the chron's disease et set right.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So in a colonoscopy, I mean basically they're looking at
a clean colon with a camera. What are they looking for?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
They're looking for any kind of abnormalities in appearance, whether
there's polyps, whether there's diverticula, whether there's you know, growths
in the wall of the large intestine, which can ultimately
end up being colon cancer. And so they just want
to see that the inside looks the way that it's

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supposed to look, and they want to inspect it to
make sure that there nothing is being missed because the
earlier they catch something, the higher the success rate of.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Getting well again.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Now, what are some of the conditions that you might
see that arise from an imbalance in the large intestine?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Constipation, diarrhea, irritable vowel symptoms, pain, bloating, generally having lower
belly discomfort. Those are all the kinds of conditions or
symptoms that people will come in and talk about. It
tells me that they probably have a large intestine issue.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And as we were talking about the microbes and the
other things that are in that in your gut health,
do those microbes affect your feeling of well being or
are they just helping you get the food digested and
eliminated and absorbed.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
No, the balance of those microbes in the microbiome definitely
influence ourselves emotionally and what we feel and how we
respond to the world and so it's important to make
sure that you maintain balance. And if you have highs
and lows in your moods and affects in terms of
dealing with life, then don't be afraid to come see

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somebody like myself that can help assess what your large
intestine is doing and determine the levels of imbalanced that
it has without all the huge, expensive tests that the
medical practitioners will put you through.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, what's interesting about what you said about those medical
tests like the colonoscopy. They may be looking at visually
what can be going on with that, and they can
see growth or whatever. But what your talk about is
being able to address the function of this system but
also all these other aspects of it that are go

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much further than just simply what does it look like
and is it doing the one, two three parts of
its job right?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
And so it's important to evaluate function within a person,
which is why I'm a functional practitioner, and we assess
a person's function every time they're in the office, and
we reset the circuitry to whatever it is that isn't
flowing the way that it should in an effort to
help get it to flow the way that it's supposed to.
And you know, a person knows pretty quickly whether their

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bowels are moving in a normal fashion or not. And
you know, we need to become more comfortable with having
conversations with our doctors about what our bowel habits are
because they are an indication of potentially chronic, really severe
health issues.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
And you know, it's not something that you.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Just want to blow off and things that it's not
going to happen to you.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I actually have a colleague of mine who had
ended up getting diagnosed with bowel cancer and he just said,
he's pretty sensitive to his body and he just said
something didn't feel quite right, and he was kind of
you're trying to figure out what it was that was
going on with him. It just didn't feel bad, it

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wasn't painful. It was a very subtle thing. But he
decided to get it checked out. And when he when
he had it checked out, they found out that he
actually had cancer and he ended up getting treated for
that by his doctor.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Well, I'm glad they found then.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'm sorry for his circumstances, but yeah, it's important to
be mindful of what's going on in your body, be
aware of what's going on in your body and getting
appropriate understanding from any kind of practitioner that can help
you understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, that's I think one of the things that is
really unique about the kind of practice that you have
is that it doesn't necessarily have to wait until something
is actually symptomatic before you can actually deal with what
the problem is.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Right, you know, because if you're looking at somebody from
a functional standpoint as opposed to a symptom standpoint, I
can detect a loss of normal function with as little
as three percent loss, whereas healthcare is going to wait
until you've lost greater than sixty percent and have active
symptoms before they're going to intervene. And that's just the
politics of how healthcare works. But I would think that

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anybody in their right mind would want to find things
earlier rather than when it's already there.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. Now, the other thing about this whole lower part
of your anatomy is that there's this area this part
of the brain I guess the belly brain called the
enteric nervous system. So there's a lot of things. Because
I know you have talked about emotions related to the
various organs and the various systems, and certainly anybody that's

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ever had a gut feeling about something can understand what
that is referenced. You know what that's referring to. Can
you describe a little bit about what goes on with
the enteric nervous system and how the large intestine plays
its part there.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, the enteric nervous system is like a second brain
because it actually has nervous tissue and nervous cells within it,
and it coordinates the absorption and the release of what
the intestines have to sift through as food material in
order for it to pass through the body. And so
it's a boots on the ground kind of command center

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that interacts with at the level of absorption in the
body to help understand what's being let in, what's being
kept out, and the concentrations of it and the inventory.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Of it and all of that.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
And you know, it still communicates with the brain proper
in your head, but it's a more direct brain interface
at the level of the digestive system.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Now, the in between I think between the small intestine
and the large intestine is a valve that keeps the
food from backing up and going the wrong direction through
your digestive system. That's called the ilios secal valve, if
I'm correct.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
That is correct, because the last part of your small
intestine is called the ilium and the first part of
the large intestine is called the secum, and so when
those two come together, it's just Anatomus are very very smart.
They just tell you directly what it is. They don't
beat around the bush. So the ilio sekal valve is

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the valve that separates the small intestine from the large intestine.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
So, because you want your digest testing food to go
through in one direction, so it should be a one
way street.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
It should be a one way street.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
And you know the challenges that we have because of
the standard American diet and the poor digestive systems that
we have and the lack of proper chewing because everybody
eats like a shark. When the food gets there, the
valve should be closed and it should remain closed until

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the small intestine's done doing its part with whatever food
is in the body, and then the valve will open
and through the peristaltic action, some of the material in
the small intestine will then be pushed out through the
iliosecal valve that's opened into the secum of the large intestine,

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and then when it's done doing that, the valve will close.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Well.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Sometimes due to the abuse that we give to our
digestive system, the valve either gets stuck closed, it's spasm closed,
and then things don't go through and things have a
tendency to back up and get absorbed by your low
back and create low back pain, or it fatigues open.

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The sphincter stays open so that things are going in
from the small to the large intestine before they're actually
ready to go in, and that creates a different set
of problems that ultimately leads to inflammation and low back pain.
And so this particular iliosecal valve, which is in the
area of your appendix on your lower right belly, halfway

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between the point of your hip and your belly button,
when that becomes irritated, inflamed, or active, putting a cool
pack over that part of the belly for about twenty
twenty five minutes will help to normalize that illeosecual valve
so that it goes back to functioning in a normal,
healthy fashion.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
And I guess you know, of course you want that
to be as functioning as regularly and healthily as possible.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Right, because you don't want to have unexplained low back pain.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yep, Well, this is a great part of our conversation
to put in our next break. We're listening to the
Alternative Healthcare Network dot com. We'll get back. I want
to get into some more questions about the large intestine.

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Speaker 1 (36:59):
You know, one of the things that you have a
unique way of understanding the functionality of the body is
that you also understand how your muscular skeletal system relates
to the different organ systems in your body. So what
are the muscles that you might associate with what's going
on with large testino if you have a whether it's
working wide, or if you're having an issue.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Right, So, the ham strings at the back of your
thigh are related to the large intestine. There's a small
triangular muscle on the side of your hip that attaches
tendonously wise all the way down just below your knee joint.
That's called your tensor fascialotta at the side of the
thigh and then right at the base of the pelvis

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that ties into your low back that supports how the
spine sits.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
On the pelvis is a small.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Muscle known as the quadratus lumborum, and again it's in
the low back, So the ham strings that the back
of the thigh, the tensor fashi a lotta at the
lateral aspect of your thigh, and the quadratus lomborum just
above the pelvis on both sides. Those are the primary
muscles associated with the large intestine.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And if you notice the problem with those muscles, should
you seek out help.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Oh, you should always find a functional doctor who can
assess if they are digestive issues associated with them, or
if it's you know, potentially a muscle pull or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Would I I mean, we're talking about the idea of
elimination and letting go, and if somebody's having difficulty releasing
some of those muscles, could that be related to a
digestive health and to the large intestine health.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well, the internal relationships between an organ and the muscles
affected by the organ are the reason for that particular circumstance.
And so having somebody that understands those relationships and has
techniques and tools in which to assess if that's the
problem and is that where the problems coming from, would
be important.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Now another thing is I mean, I think I mentioned
this earlier, the idea of gut sensations, of having a
feeling in the pit of your stomach, whether it's a
nervous feeling an excited feeling. What should you do when
you notice something like that? And does that relate in
any way to health?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Or of course it does.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
So I would ask for you to assess the emotions
that you're experiencing in that moment and look for the
why you were feeling that way, and if you cannot
address them yourself, get professional help sooner rather than later.
Small problems are easy to fix, and large ones are
not as simple. And we want to fix problems when
they're small and not have to work so hard if

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they become big.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, I try to prevent that. So we always often
talk about the emotions associated with various organs. What are
the emotions that link directly to the large intestine and
its function?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Probably the most important and most common one is an
emotion called dogmatically or rigid in your way of thinking,
dogmatically positioned, you know, things have to be a certain.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Way in order for you to relax, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Then we get the other emotions like crying, compelled to neatness,
and the sense of being defensive.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Those are all large intests and emotions, all right.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
So but I mean, if you're talking about letting go,
I mean, doesn't that affect all of your emotions?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
It does, And it's important to understand that the large
intestin has the final say in the emotional circumstances and
the cascade of how.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
To release those emotions.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
So by recruiting the diaphragm to help create the pumping action,
it's also the emotional processor that will allow your large
intest and to let go of things. Once and for all,
you know, and as.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
You talk about that, it's since the lungs are processing
so much and it's through your breath that you can
express so much. Now we're talking about the lower part
of the torso, so we have the full range from
the top to the bottom of the of the functional
organ system in the body is actually participating what goes
on with these emotions and the releasing of them.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Right, So, breathing through your belly by maximally expanding and
relaxing your diaphragm with each breath is what's going to
help you to release those suppressed feelings and return back
to balance.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
And so.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Having methods in which to do that would be important.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
What happens when you don't get rid of those suppressed feelings.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
While you're going to trap those emotions, then they're going
to lead to dysfunction in the organs that are directly
impacted by whatever emotions it is that you're holding onto.
If it's fear, it's going to be your kidneys. If
it's grief, it's going to be your lungs. If it's
anger or frustration, it's going to be your liver. If
it's self esteem, it's going to affect your spleen, you know.

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So it just depends on what it is that you're
holding onto. Feeling wise, it's going to get transferred to
the specific organ in charge of that emotional feeling and
it's going to stress that particular organ gland.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Right. But I mean, if I'm thinking about releasing my emotions,
I mean I wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to
release my spleen. So when you want to release emotions,
suppressed feelings, whatever, what kind of methods can you use
to sort of get those to process through.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
You can talk about your feelings, you can sing, you
can exercise, you can run, you can yell one by
yourself and focus on the releasing aspect of them fully.
There's a wonderful book out there called the Sedona Method.
The author's name is Hail Dwoskins Dwoski ns Hail Dwoskins

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Sedona Method, and it teaches you how to let go
of and release anything that doesn't serve you and your
overall health. And if you're having difficulty releasing, it actually
teaches you how to deal with the difficulty that's blocking
you from releasing so that you can release that first

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and then that'll help open up the door to help
you release other things.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
So that sounds like, because my next question was really
about can you expand your ability to let go, it
sounds like there are actually methods and techniques that you
could learn that might help with that.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, And so making sure that your belly breathing is
most important and getting used to letting go of things fully.
You know, if when you're done, be done, don't ruminate
on it, don't carry it with you. You know, it's the
old metaphor of the two monks who were walking the
countryside who take a vow of silence, and they were
walking along and they came across this woman who was

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in distress because her husband had gone ahead, and she
wanted needed help getting her stuff across this particular stream.
And so the older of the two monks said, yes,
we will help you, and ask the younger monk to,
you know, help carry some of this stuff across for
the woman. And then let's carry the woman across. And
you know, that night, sitting around there campfire, the younger

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monk said to the older monk was just like, I
can't believe you did that, And the older monk was
like did what. He's like, you broke your vow of
silence today, and he says, let me get this straight.
That was about seven hours ago, and you're still holding
on to it. So it's like, you know, you got
to learn to let go of things that are no
longer important, and it's important to know how to do that.

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And if you need help understanding how to do it,
this Sedona Method by Hal Dwaskins is a wonderful book
to teach you how to do it for yourself.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
So w another method being able to do like rigorous exercise,
so you're you know, pumping a lot of air and
oxygen in and out of your body.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Well, it can be as long as you're breathing while
doing the exercise.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
You know, there are a lot of people who are
doing rigorous exercise, let's say, lifting weights, and every time
they push the weight, they hold their breath instead of
breathing out while you're pushing the weight, and so you know,
you could potentially create problems if you're doing the rigorous
exercise and you're not breathing while you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Now, when we were speaking of before about some of
these diseases that people have, like Crohn's disease or irritable
bell syndrome. Are there ways that you can help and
how do you go about helping somebody that has that
kind of condition?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Well, the first answer is absolutely. It's one of the
things that I really enjoy doing is helping people with
chronic health conditions that they believe or somebody made them
believe that is a permanent condition, and then helping them
to overcome and get over the condition once and for all.
And so the first thing we need to do is
do an evaluation so that we can understand what the

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cause is, and then we need to address the cause
and then support the healing process. And until you address
the cause, the problem will simply continue and we'll always
need management. And we don't necessarily want you to be
a lifetime manager of your condition and never get over
your condition.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Now, are there herbs or other supplements that you can
use it would help somebody that has a problem of constipation?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Oh? Absolutely there are, and you need to know what
they are and what they cause before you just start
taking these random supplements or herbs that you think will
help you. You need to have a full understanding of
which herb is appropriate or which supplement is appropriate, and again,

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understand what is causing the constipation, so that you're addressing
it at its source, not just simply putting a band
aid on it.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Would the same thing be true for somebody has diarrhea
consistently chronic diarrhea.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
There are definitely supplements and nerves for that too. And
again you want to be aware of the reason for
the diarrhea so that you can fix it once and
for all. And I'm going to promise you this that
if it's you're having diarrhea, that it's not an intestinal problem,
gallbladder problem, and until you address the imbalance in the gallbladder,
you're going to have chronic diarrhea.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I was going to ask you because you had mentioned
before about sensitivity to gluten things like that. So is
that one of the major components and what's causing people
to have problems with their large intestines.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
It could be for some people, and it's usually about
the dysbiosis or the imbalance in the microbiome first, and
then the allergy sensitivity comes as a result. And so
in the process of fixing somebody with a gluten analogy
or even a weed allergy, we need to understand the
effects of having that allergy, why the body has gotten

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to the point of producing that as a response, and
then reverse engineering what needs to be done in order
to address it at its source so that the body
can then deal with what typically should be a normal
ingredient in the standard American diet keep that from being

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a problem.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Another area of things that foods that seem to cause
a lot of people problem is dairy. What's going on
with that? Why would that create such a problem for people.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Dairy does create a problem for some people because they
usually lack the digestive enzyme called lactase to break down
the milk sugar which is called lactose. So if you
don't have enough lactase, you're going to have a problem
breaking down lactose and you'll become dairy sensitive. And you know,
so helping people with enzymes but also helping their body

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to not fight with milk sugar and have dairy issues
as a result would be important.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Now, we often are looking at, you know, these issues
that are causing the digestive problems that people have, and
you know, people want to come in there and say,
you know, I'm tired of having this problem. There are
so many different ways that it relates to you. So
when you talk about looking for the why, the reason

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why you have this problem, are those why answers typically emotional?
Can they be physical? Can they be like we're talking
about a lot of the foods that are causing these problems.
When you look for that source of what's causing the
initial problem, where do you go on that hunt.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Well, in my office, we look for the foreign main
causes of all health issues, whether it's your foods, whether
it's some kind of pathogen, bacteria, virus, parasite, fungus, It
could be chemicals, it could be heavy metals. And so
we got those four main causes that help us to
assess why something is happening. And we can certainly link

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in the emotional reflex to see if there is an
emotional component to it. And a lot of times anybody
that has a chronic condition, I promise you there's an
emotional component. And until you address that emotional component, person's
probably not going to get better.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
And so.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Whether emotions are involved, whether it's pathogens, whether it's food,
whether it's chemicals, and those chemicals, believe it or not,
could be from the medicines that you take whether they're
over the counter medicines or whether they're prescription medicines. And
so you just want to be mindful, certainly when you
come to my office, I'll help you to become mindful

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of taking a look at all the various reasons when
we evaluate those four main causes to see which category
and which subcategory within those categories are contributing to and
associated with the imbalances.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
That you have.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
And so we look at all four of those reasons
and we look to find the specifics of why those
causes are creating the problems that a person has.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Well, it would seem to me that one possibility, as
you said, might be you might have a side effect
from medication that's causing your large and testine problems, right right.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
And so what you want to do is you want
to look at the side effects of your medication. And
consulting with Google is easy enough. You type your medication in,
and I promise you as you're typing the medication in,
it'll finish typing it for you, and it'll give you
the choice of side effects associated with taking your medication.
You want to read every one of those side effects
and see how those side effects relate to you see

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if you're experiencing any of them, and then if you are,
take that information, print it out and go have a
conversation with the doctor that prescribed you the medication and say, listen,
this is what it's causing for me, and I need
to find a better solution, and probably a more natural solution.
If they're not going to offer you that kind of solution,
and then that would be a wonderful reason to call me.

(52:02):
And I would love the opportunity to help you and so, and.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
If somebody wants to avail themselves with that opportunity, what's
your number? What are the best ways to reach you
and get the questions that they may have answered?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, the best thing to do would be to call
me directly on my cell phone, which is area code
eight four five five six one two two two five
again eight four five five six one two two two five.
That would allow us to have a conversation. I could
ask you questions that you've probably have never been asked before.
That's going to give me some insights as to what's
going on with you. But short of calling me, you

(52:38):
can email me directly at doc Rick d O c
R c K at spine boy dot com. Doc Rick
at spineboy dot com. You can certainly stop into the office.
I would ask you probably to call ahead, because I
see patients by appointment only, and so if I'm in
with a patient, I won't necessarily stop what I'm doing

(53:00):
come talk to you, but I will introduce myself and
take your information and get back in touch with you
as soon as I can. But so the best thing
to do would be to call me directly, Let's have
a conversation, and then let's see if it goes anywhere
from there.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Well, that's great, because I know that when we do
these shows, we go topic by topic, we go season
by season, but we cover a lot of different health issues,
so we're not covering every one of them on every show,
but we certainly make it known that you're available to
answer questions. And what's unique about the practice that you

(53:35):
offer is that there really is the full range of
health issues that a person might be facing that you
actually can address. And I've seen this over the years
of knowing you. I've seen you treat a lot of
people that were in situations that they thought they had
no other answer for, and that you've actually been able
to offer significant help.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah, and so it's you know, having somebody that cares that,
it's really trying to look for the source of your
issue and how to address you at the source is
just vitally important. And I don't care what your health
condition is. I don't care what stage it's in. I
don't care how old you are, I don't care any
of that. I just want to help you. And so

(54:16):
if there's anything that we've said that has intrigued you enough,
please reach out and let's have a.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Conversation and I would look forward to helping you.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
But until then, I'd ask you to tune back in
next week, same health time, same health station. Thank you
for your listenership. Today, this is doctor Richard Huntune with
Mark Saban saying, we look forward to supporting you when
your health matters.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
My physician, he said, you're definitely ill, that's it. The
nurse seen worse.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
So the doctor just ka me a pill.