NOT the Sermon

NOT the Sermon

NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!

Episodes

October 6, 2025 49 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi...

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric dives into the strange world of the Amish Mafia and Jamie talks about staff meeting word games. In Weird Worship, they ask if there’s a secret worship cabal—are just a handful of people running the whole industry? Then it’s on to Odd News, where they debate whether becoming a Christian actually makes you “hotter.” Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrest...

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September 22, 2025 48 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, swapping stories about college football heartbreak and debating whether you’ve got a “bestie” or a “worstie.” In Shady Theology, they wrestle with the tough question: Does God cause natural disasters? Then in Pester the Pastor, Eric manages to trigger Jamie during a heated discussion on small groups—are they helpful or just hype? Finally, in Christian Con...

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September 15, 2025 46 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie leaves Phoenix an unfortunate voicemail and Eric ends up with a female locksmith story he can’t shake. In Weird Worship, the guys unpack the social media spat between Cory Asbury and Forrest Frank—asking if worship leaders should rise above the drama and act as role models. Next, in Houston, We Have a Question, they dive into the confusing world of end-t...

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where a Sermonot takes a stab at interpreting Eric’s dream, and Jamie goes off on people who insist on backing into parking spaces. In Pester the Pastor, the guys dig into the Billy Graham/Mike Pence Rule and whether it’s wisdom or overkill. Then, in How Great is Our Pod, they debut Goodbye Sanity—a parody of Elevation Rhythm’s Goodbye Yesterday that you’...

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September 1, 2025 47 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric serve up a fresh round of theology, comedy, and chaos. In Shooting the Skybalon, Jamie tells the story of a fine dining experience that somehow featured a DJ, while Eric shares about catching a stray “Pharisee” insult in the church foyer. Next, in Shady Theology, the guys dive into stories of people claiming to visit heaven—are they legit or just tall tales? Over in So Help Meme God, they can’t sto...

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August 25, 2025 50 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric bring you MOOODALISM!!! and everything that comes with it. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric owns up to a Facebook joke about compassion that may have landed a little too harsh, while Jamie recounts a mishap at a funeral. In Houston, We Have a Question, the guys tackle the big one: Modalism vs. the Trinity—why it matters, and how to keep your theology straight. Over in Weird Worship, they riff on Bran...

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August 18, 2025 46 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about whether baptism is necessary, they show a little greek with the 4 Greek words for love, and play their favorite game, "Life's a Preach!"

 

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https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon 00:00:12 Shooting the Skybalon: Mormon Temples and Chest Tattoos   00:10:17 Shady Theology: Bapt...

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August 11, 2025 49 mins

Season 3 is finally here! And we’re back, baby! Jamie and Eric return with a fresh batch of unfiltered (it's definitely filtered) comedy and theology.

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off by Shooting the Skybalon with a roast poem from one our listeners. They move on to Shady Theology, diving into the weird world of church membership. In Bible Says What!? they ask why John ran faster than Peter and discuss the nature o...

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In this episode Eric is joined by friend of the pod, Noah Asher. They talk chaos, prison, and finding hope and humor in hopeless situations.  This is the last Summer Short Shorts of the season! Next week Jamie & Eric are back with new topics, new songs, and a new platform! Tune in August 11th for details!

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric are joined by Jamie's wife Tiffany to talk about the time giant possum and her family moved into Jamie's house! Season 3 begins August 11th! Stay tuned for some major announcements and new features!

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July 21, 2025 44 mins

REPOST: In this episode, Jamie. & Eric talk denominations, cults, and heresy hunters! They also release a new NTS original song "My Name is On a Mailbox, Down the Great Dirt Road of Heaven"

 

Season 3 is right around the corner! Keep on keeping on, Sermonots!

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In this episode Jamie & Eric are reunited (and it feels so good)! The boys shoot the skybalon, give some summer updates, and then dive in to their mid-summer shady...theology: Confession.

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In this episode Jamie brings on friend and former youth group member Doug to discuss the wild west of the mid 2000's youth group era. Enjoy!

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June 30, 2025 47 mins

Let’s rewind to our most listened-to episode of 2024: Holy Debauchery! Jamie and Eric were live on-site in Orlando, Florida, joined by a few staff pastors to talk all things conference culture, pastors tithing, and more. And don’t miss the original roast song written by a Sermonot.

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Fresh off the podcasting press, Eric is joined by a special guest, Cynthia Bryan as he debriefs from his sabbatical and talks about how he got stuck on a train in Switzerland.

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One of Jamie's favorite NTS episodes. Enjoy!

00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Tongue Twisters   00:08:19 Eric's Edumakation: The Gospel Overseas   00:22:32 So Help Meme God: Funeral Music   00:34:33 Pester the Pastor: Conflict  

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Rejoice, Sermonots - it's our first Summer Short Short! Join Jamie and his wife Tiffany as they talk about the time Jamie almost paralyzed one of his children's classmates. Tiff also takes a quiz to prove if she's really been listening to her husband's podcast. Hilarity ensues!

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Enjoy one of Eric's favorite episodes from Season 1: Momma Bear Needs Her Wine! 00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Happy New Year   00:10:04 Pester the Pastor: Daniel Fasts   00:22:24 Shady Theology: Alcohol   00:32:23 Houston, We Have a Question: Pets in Heaven  

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May 26, 2025 47 mins

The final episode of Season 2! Don't be dismayed, Not the Sermon will be releasing our "Summer Short Shorts" episodes throughout the summer, along with Jamie & Eric's favorite episodes from the past 2 seasons. In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about the spiritual gift of time travel, release a new song, and review some of the highlights from Season 2.

00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Season 2 Review   00:10:53 Shady Theolo...

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