NOT the Sermon

NOT the Sermon

NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!

Episodes

December 1, 2025 48 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie talks about officiating a Sermonot wedding and Eric shares how his “guest speaker workout” turned into an accidental leg day. In Christian Conspiracies, they dive into the strange and sensational world of the Red Heifer theories. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle how churches should select worship songs and what actually makes a song theologic...

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking poddy humor and the chaos of Black Friday shopping. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle listener questions about whether spouses should hold each other accountable spiritually and whether the Holy Spirit speaks to people in comas. Then in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a new Thanksgiving-themed parody: Here I Am to Pig Out. Finally, in P...

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November 17, 2025 47 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie calls out Eric for making faces at him during a serious ministry moment, and the guys reflect on how the D.A.R.E. program failed an entire generation. In Pilgrim or Florida Man?, they debut a new game where they read insane headlines and try to guess whether the chaos came from early American settlers or modern-day Floridians. In Shady Theology, they ta...

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November 10, 2025 49 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric start off with Shooting the Skybalon, featuring The Crazy Halloween Lady—a woman who messaged the church calling it a “synagogue of Satan” for hosting Trunk or Treat. In Shady Theology, they explore Holiday Rituals and Symbols—from jack-o-lanterns to Christmas trees—and ask if these traditions are kosher for Christians. Then, in Houston, We Have a Question, they take on listener questions: is casti...

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November 3, 2025 47 mins

In this episode of Not the Sermon, the boys are back from overseas—jetlagged, dog-bitten, and running on fumes. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric shares the chaos of losing one dog and getting bitten by the other. Pester the Pastor tackles the balance between local and international ministry. In Weird Worship they dive into whether worship teams should use backing tracks, and Your Greek is Showing unpacks three Greek words for “sin.” ...

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October 27, 2025 40 mins

You are in for special treat! This is an "on site" recording from a recent international trip that Jamie & Eric took. They give you on-the-ground information about the state of Christianity abroad and share some of the precious moments, mishaps, and delirium they experienced on the trip!  [00:00:20] Part 1: Funny Stories   [00:20:37] Part 2: Ministry Update   [00:31:28] Part 3: Airport Lounge Wrap Up

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric are back from India… kind of. In Shooting the Skybalon, they talk planes, trains, and autorickshaws In The Bible Says What?!, they dive into wisdom literature and how it hilariously reminds us of how dumb we can be. Then in Communion Clapback, they respond to all the snarky social media comments. Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with the idea of God’s wrath—what it is, what it isn’t, and wh...

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October 13, 2025 47 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, asking life’s tough questions: how much effort is too much when squeezing cheese out of the mac-and-cheese packet? Plus, Jamie shares how State Farm dumped him like a crazy ex—only to come crawling back. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a hot topic: should kids stay in the main service with their parents, or do they need their own space? Then in Odd News, th...

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October 6, 2025 49 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi...

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric dives into the strange world of the Amish Mafia and Jamie talks about staff meeting word games. In Weird Worship, they ask if there’s a secret worship cabal—are just a handful of people running the whole industry? Then it’s on to Odd News, where they debate whether becoming a Christian actually makes you “hotter.” Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrest...

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September 22, 2025 48 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, swapping stories about college football heartbreak and debating whether you’ve got a “bestie” or a “worstie.” In Shady Theology, they wrestle with the tough question: Does God cause natural disasters? Then in Pester the Pastor, Eric manages to trigger Jamie during a heated discussion on small groups—are they helpful or just hype? Finally, in Christian Con...

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September 15, 2025 46 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie leaves Phoenix an unfortunate voicemail and Eric ends up with a female locksmith story he can’t shake. In Weird Worship, the guys unpack the social media spat between Cory Asbury and Forrest Frank—asking if worship leaders should rise above the drama and act as role models. Next, in Houston, We Have a Question, they dive into the confusing world of end-t...

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where a Sermonot takes a stab at interpreting Eric’s dream, and Jamie goes off on people who insist on backing into parking spaces. In Pester the Pastor, the guys dig into the Billy Graham/Mike Pence Rule and whether it’s wisdom or overkill. Then, in How Great is Our Pod, they debut Goodbye Sanity—a parody of Elevation Rhythm’s Goodbye Yesterday that you’...

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September 1, 2025 47 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric serve up a fresh round of theology, comedy, and chaos. In Shooting the Skybalon, Jamie tells the story of a fine dining experience that somehow featured a DJ, while Eric shares about catching a stray “Pharisee” insult in the church foyer. Next, in Shady Theology, the guys dive into stories of people claiming to visit heaven—are they legit or just tall tales? Over in So Help Meme God, they can’t sto...

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August 25, 2025 50 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric bring you MOOODALISM!!! and everything that comes with it. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric owns up to a Facebook joke about compassion that may have landed a little too harsh, while Jamie recounts a mishap at a funeral. In Houston, We Have a Question, the guys tackle the big one: Modalism vs. the Trinity—why it matters, and how to keep your theology straight. Over in Weird Worship, they riff on Bran...

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August 18, 2025 46 mins

In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about whether baptism is necessary, they show a little greek with the 4 Greek words for love, and play their favorite game, "Life's a Preach!"

 

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https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon 00:00:12 Shooting the Skybalon: Mormon Temples and Chest Tattoos   00:10:17 Shady Theology: Bapt...

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August 11, 2025 49 mins

Season 3 is finally here! And we’re back, baby! Jamie and Eric return with a fresh batch of unfiltered (it's definitely filtered) comedy and theology.

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off by Shooting the Skybalon with a roast poem from one our listeners. They move on to Shady Theology, diving into the weird world of church membership. In Bible Says What!? they ask why John ran faster than Peter and discuss the nature o...

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In this episode, Jamie & Eric are joined by Jamie's wife Tiffany to talk about the time giant possum and her family moved into Jamie's house! Season 3 begins August 11th! Stay tuned for some major announcements and new features!

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July 21, 2025 44 mins

REPOST: In this episode, Jamie. & Eric talk denominations, cults, and heresy hunters! They also release a new NTS original song "My Name is On a Mailbox, Down the Great Dirt Road of Heaven"

 

Season 3 is right around the corner! Keep on keeping on, Sermonots!

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In this episode Jamie & Eric are reunited (and it feels so good)! The boys shoot the skybalon, give some summer updates, and then dive in to their mid-summer shady...theology: Confession.

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