April 16, 2025 • 42 mins
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It is the media Match. Joe Hoyt, ed Warder got
Clarence sale on new He scruggs. We've just left the
retirement press conference for Tyron Smith of the Dallas Cowboys
number seventy seven and Edwarder. I will start with you, okay.
Jerry Jones said he's going in the Ring of Honor.
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He said, he's going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
You are in the Canton Writers' Wing of the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
How would you welcome to make knowledge?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
And I'm not sure there's really a writer's wing.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
But I mean go to then you're in. I mean,
y'all got to say, who's your classmates?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
My classmates?
Speaker 7 (01:03):
I followed Chris Mortenson, Actually Andrea Kramer came after me.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Williams Goose Wan's famously said he was in talking about
a player he's in my class.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Jerry was actually inducted in the same year. I went, ironically,
enough your class there you go. Yeah, I mean, it's
it's kind of And I was just talking to Zach
Martin about this because we saw him retire just a
couple of weeks ago in the same building, and it
was like, how do you have all these great potentially
Hall of Fame players and all of them leave without
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ever playing in a championship game, much less a Super Bowl.
And I mean Jerry even said it right, he said,
it's a tragedy that we were never played a Super
Bowl with you.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Out there at left tackle.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
And you know, also, you forget that the guy was
twenty years old when they drafted him with like ninth
overall pick from USC.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You know, obviously Hudson Howe coached at USC and.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
Was a big advocate of his And we'll tell you
he had everything it took to be great, especially the
desire to be great beyond all the physical skills. But
for Jerry to say he was the youngest player in
the NFL his first two seasons in the NFL is
quite remarkable. And that he had the highest character grade
of any player in that draft. And you just look
(02:22):
at him now, You're like, he looks like a rookie.
Now I mean that incredible body kind. I mean it's
over three hundred pounds, that he looks like he's two fifty.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I was talking to Deck and he said he's down
to two ninety and like Zach martinzlready down to two seventy.
But yeah, he looked like it could still play. It's
interesting when you bring up him not being able to
win and regret and these great players. Another great player
leaves here. And I've been written about this for a while.
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Jerry gets to blame, right, and you list the quarterbacks
to get the blame with the Deck or Romo, you know.
And we never attached the failure to the Wittings of
World or the Zechs or the World or Times of
the World, of all the guys who've come through here
and have not had success. But it's always attached to
Jerry or attached to the quarterback, and they're the ones
who can't get it done. But we don't really attach
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it to these other great players. And I'm just saying that, yes,
it's it's disappointing, you know, you see time and time again.
And I think that's why one reason why Cowboy fans
fall in love with players, because that's all they have
the whole on too, because they don't have the Super
Bowl success and so another great player. And at the
end of the day, it's not all just Jerry, it's
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on the player. They all carry some of that way.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I spoke to here, but I spoke to DeMarcus.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Wear one on one and they question.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I said to him, you got the ring, you had
to leave, but what is what do you think is
going through their minds to have this kind of press
conference and they're not gonna get.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What you had.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
They'll they'll end up in the Pro Football Hall of
Fame like you, but they won't have that ring and say, man, yes,
got to be really hard to be that good and
to be you know.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Because Zach Martin said, it's a blemish on all of
our rights.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I asked Theaware the same thing, and he said when
I when I when when Tyron talked about it his
regret or not winning, he said he looked in Dak side,
he looked at Zack side, and he saw them all
you know, feeling that that left that that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's something that would regret, you know, and so you know, yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Tough well, and and and the frustrating about us as
media people. We always want to put it on one thing,
and we always want to put it on one person
or one thing. This is why they haven't won in
thirty years of this is why they couldn't get it done.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And it's not just one thing. It is not just
one person.
Speaker 8 (04:43):
Yeah, and I am glad that you brought up the
fact that DeMarcus had to leave to get that ring,
because when you look at the careers of Zach Martin
and Tyron Smith, they also made an investment in the Cowboys.
Tyron Smith's not an eight year deal. That's kind of unhearded.
He wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy for the rest
of his life, but also to win a title here.
It didn't happen. It is kind of a traged and
to your point, there's a lot of reasons why it
didn't happen. You know, you kind of look at some
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of the things that happened in the postseason, and you know,
if this would have happened, if that would happened, ultimately
it didn't. And these guys are going to go in the
Hall of Fame one day without rings on their fingers.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Different all that talent and never have a good enough team.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And because it's always it was they had great talent offense,
they weren't great on the defense.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And like look at you look at the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
They had a great offensive line, they got the quarterback,
they got receivers, they got great running back. They also
got the number one defensive league. I mean, the Cowboys
never put it all together. And so we focused on
the line, the great wall, but we don't focus on
what was lacking on the defense side of the way,
why they can't stop the run, which is ultimately you
know what failed them. And you brought up d where
he had to leave. No, the Cowboys cut it.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
Yeah, okay, but in order to get it wasn't here.
Speaker 10 (05:45):
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But it wasn't like he left on his own volition.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Okay, if the Cowboys wouldn't have cut him in the
stadium and you probably still be ring.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
He would be one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, one of those guys.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
You know he left they cut him, Yeah, you know,
but it wasn't here. Is my point.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I think the most amazing thing about Tyron Smith, and
to me this kind of says it all about how
great he was despite not playing on a championship or
a Super Bowl contending team, is he got drafted before
JJ Watt, who was a three time Defensive Player of
the Year in the NFL in Houston. And not one
person has ever said, how could we have taken Tyron
(06:21):
Smith over JJ Watt?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You're very very correct about that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And I remember that draft and it was so many
years of holding on the Floes l Adams, Okay, what
are they going to replace him? Where you replace him?
And they finally decided, Okay, we've got to make this move.
And it was a twenty year old right tackle. A
lot of people don't remember Matt Kalill was basically the
guy at left tackle at USC and Tyrone was playing
on the right and he was the young guy. There
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were less questions about Matt Kalill, who turned out to
be an okay player than actually his little brother, the
center at US. He turned out to be a better
football player than he did.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
But ironically, all these years later, when we talk about
the what the cow was missed?
Speaker 9 (07:04):
Yeah, they ain't it.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Ain't they missed him both. They only get criticized for
missing one.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
No, they didn't miss o JJ because they got a
Hall of Famer. They missed on TJ.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
You know what else is interesting is and Jason Garrett
was here today that that was his first pick, right,
the first pick of the Jason Garrett era was Tyrone Smith.
And they hadn't drafted an offensive lineman in the first
round since nineteen eighty one before that. And it's like
Jerry said, you know, he he made us think differently
about the value of taking an offensive lineman in the
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first round because then they did it with Travis Frederick,
they did it with Zach Martin. Because they did that,
and because of Garrett wanting to play a certain way,
then that justified taking Ezekiel Elliott with the fourth overall pick.
And Garrett said, that first pick kind of defines your identity.
It's a symbolic of the kind of team you want
to have, and Tyron Smith certainly was that for him.
(07:55):
And in a week's time, Brian Schottenheimer gets a chance
to do the exact same thing with the twelfth overall pick.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, Garrett wanted to go back to the nineties style,
so he wanted to rebuild office lines also focused on
the running game, which is why they went and got
Zeke and focused on that and paid z ultimately because
he was about he was still part of that ninety philosophy.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So what about Tyler Giden? What does that say? We'll see.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, right them off. I mean the second year, you
have to be concerned.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Talas Smith worked. Tyllas Smith is damn good.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Okay, he's one of the most impressive young people walking
this building I've seen since I've been covering the team.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
But Tyler Guiden, Tyrone Swith said he's the next one. Yeah,
Tyler Smith.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
There's two things that take from that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
The question about guy one, they did say, Okay, we
know it's going to take a while, and if we're
looking fairly at how many starts that he had in
college and then what he missed in training camp, there's
a gap. So what kind of work are they doing
in the off season with him? What is he doing?
And man, if you're Brian Schottenheimer a tiring can we
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hire you for a couple of weeks to come on
after training camp and and help this young man?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
That's what the office line coach is for you know
what they got.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
They got a new coach, a great office line coach office,
the coordinatory got a teacher from Kansas.
Speaker 11 (09:19):
Date.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So I'm going to form a players to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I'm gonna push back on you. What did we just
talk about? Hey, you had d Wear out here helping
you out. So so some point in time, I do
think a third party validation from dudes who were doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hey, this is what it is.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
But d Ware was helping him as a defensive player,
teach them about what defenders are gonna do.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We're talking about now, right right? Former Giants? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Then the Cowboys hated right, what was it at Here's
a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I was there too, hated it.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
But coaches are limited to coaches are limited. I mean
players are not limited in how much they can help
each other to new his point, I mean you can
bring in someone if.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You want to work with, if you want to coach.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
He worked next to Zach Barton last like.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Coach or you want to coach. Just wants to argue,
I don't. We we're not supposed to agree. It is
the show. We're not supposed to all have the same
thought process. That's fine, and you're we're not You're wrong,
all right, he wrote, I just.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Just let's just let's just bring Dion, let's bring everybody
to two to every position and let the coaches go.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Well, they had a chance to bring Dean, but.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
They yet, You've got you Roger back.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They got got a first running back, you got a
first round receivers. Don't have got her first round pick
last year.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
By all accounts, last year's first round pick was below standard.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
With John Lee to comes ironically, I don't e think
they should have let Tyan go and they should have
had him to work with Tyler last year.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
That's why Tyler, if he was a teammate, I think
I think he got more mileage at him being a
teammate and teaching than than him coming in.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I was more interested in making ten million dollars and
playing for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Fair.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So before we just throw guy out here, I'm trying
to find I'm trying to say it again.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Why can't why can't it just be a bad pit.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
It's too early to write it off.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I look, I look at tern awful rookie. What's the
standard level.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
For Tyler Guiden or for for what you should be
getting already at left tackle to be a serviceable starting
left tackle. Say what they need from Tyler Guiden.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We're not looking for serviceable.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I think you're not looking for serviceable.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
If he's serviceable, you're a blind side protective.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
He was not single last year.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
I think it's a service ball in year two eventually
takes all their steps in year two.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think if he's serviceable, that's a step.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
The worst indictment of Tyler Guiden. And he was changing
levels right from college chapro and changing sides from right
and we are like Tyrone Smith did successfully. But the
biggest indictment to me is at the end of the
season when Mike McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer and all these
coaches were working for their jobs, they.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
Didn't want on the field because he wasn't ready.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
They picked a veteran journeyman over him.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
These are all legitimate and correct points, and that's why
I bring up there.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
So let's got to effect guy.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Let's got to motivate the guy, like he's got to say, hey,
I'm better than this.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
This is a big year for him.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So I'm talking about putting resources that you have as
a as an organization towards trying to make sure, Hey,
let's not let this guy fall down. How do we
get him better? Obviously there's got to be work from Guidon.
He's got to be worked with the offensive line coach.
But if I'm sitting up here asking Tyrone Smith to
come in as a consultant for a couple of weeks
out in Oxgard, California, how is that bad?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
You know what's not bad either? They got a twelve
pick in the draft. They got a twelve pick in
the draft. They brought in two first run office in
line at least two Membo and uh, the guy from
Texas Banks. They brought him in for visits, thirty national visits.
If they're on a board, you can do that too.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't think they'll do that. I think I said
you can't Obviocely. We don't know what they're going to do.
But they brought him in for a reason, and they
they're doing their due diligence for a reason.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Sure they not line in replace.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yeah, they're doing their due diligence. Well they you know
they didn't they just sign another right guard. I got
like five right guard.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
They've got a lot of competition the right guard. And
if you're looking for you're looking for a step up
with that first round pick you could.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Get there, you're not taking it.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Right to Claire's point, In all fairness, Brian Schottenheimer did
make a point of emphasis bringing in offensive line coaches. Right,
I mean the offensive coordinate Clayton Adams is an offensive
line coach. Uh, And so is the offensive line coach
that they brought in from Kansas State. So right, Riley Dixon, Right,
So I'm.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Throwing I'm throwing all. I'm throwing all I can to
try to. I guess I come from that old school
of everybody deserves a chance opportunity to fail. You know,
for sure helped if you give him everything and he
still can't do it. And this just in some ways
even helps you get to the decision quicker, either we
trade the guy or we move on. But after one year,
when they said, will mclak talked about take him a minute,
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all right.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
I guess so I would help speed up. I'm a
okay with Tyron Smith being part of it. If the
two coaches who are coaching the offensive line sign that, well.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's what consulted with me. Like Hey, look, we're gonna
do this and this.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
But as a player, and as you know, sometimes hearing
it from someone who's done it is a little bit.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
What worked for him might not work for Tyler. He
might not three voices when he's trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Tyler, what Tyron Smith has size? Friends got don't guy
that body.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
That ability, don't have it.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I know, that's my point zero.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
So what made him especially but you know what you know,
but you know what he can do. You got all
this time was with nine training camp. Go over Tyler's
Tyrans Smith's house, let's get some one on one. You
know they do it. DeMarcus Lawrence does it. We don't
have to bring him to training camp. If you want
him to Tildrin, go go.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
So you just don't want official capacity, but you want
him to work.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't want to have a problem with either way.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I'm just saying that I don't know him coming to
camp was going to make the difference. It's all I'm saying.
I was addressed. Listen, there's nothing wrong with getting outside. Hell,
that's what you do. These guys getting outside help all
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
They got tight end camps, they got off of the
line camp there. There's a ton of it's.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Mike because a ton of resources out of here to
be coach. You got Big Duke over there and he
and he works with some of the best office line
of the league. So he and he's been under Duke
when he was drafted before. Yes, this is all he's
been with Duke since the end of the season. He's
getting help.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
This is a huge offseason for Tyler gud Yeah, he's
getting it. I'm not ready.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
I'm not ready to write him off yet, to be honest,
I'm concerned. Yeah, that's fair early indications. They don't encourage
your sure.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
And hasn't had a lot of experience anyway, he's changing.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Levels, getting paid like a first round pick because he
was a first round pick.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Thank you, so all that, But.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
He's taking a check.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
He took that starting job.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You don't have a choice.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He taking a check. He took their starting job. It's
on him, wanted to put out, it's on him. He's
on Dak's blind side. That's the job.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
They've talked about it.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
They went over their skills a little bit, they went
over their skis a little bit with him because he's
so raw. They shouldn't have just thrown him in the fire,
and they should have more of an insurance plan in
mind that that is the job.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
And Mike McCarthy would say that wasn't our plan. Like
the worst thing to happen to us in training camp
was we lost our veteran left tackle that we planned
to have.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Who was the Journeymanduka Orga, Yeah, who's who's in Jacksonville now?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
He's not a journeyman. Yeah, he's a journey That's what
I call it.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's a Jacksonville now.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
But that I would say McCarthy would say that was
not their plan to have Tyler Geyiton just give it
be given the job.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
In training camp.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I also don't think having Tuma as your insurance plan
was probably the best ultimate result anyways.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
But Tyran will be missed. Just tied a bow on
this segment. Tyron Smith will be missed.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He talked more today than he did at ten years
he was here.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
You just had to bring the little parting shot. He
tied the boat.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
He did take talk more today. It's a fact the facts,
because you.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Don't judge a guy based on that. And he's still
a great player.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Would you love a little more cooperation. You're inside out
of the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I think he's a first battlet Hall of fame where
I think he's a Hall of fame.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I don't know IF's gonna get in the first batle.
I think he's a ring honor guy.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I think he's one of the best left tackles during
his time, and he was a uh All Decade team
twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
He is all of that. Okay, he's still talking more
than day than he did all his intocurreer. I see
where it's going today.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
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I'm Newie Scruggs press conference for Tyron Smith retirement today
signs of contract one day to be with the Dallas
Cowboys and Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones with their all
the dice is tiring of talking. Didn't do a lot
of talking about he did today, REDI statement out there.
I got talked to his mother afterwards, and she talked
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about how proud she was of him.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And he'll be missed. You know.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
It's funny, I thought when he was reading uncomfortably from
his script making his retirement announcement and going through it
kind of chronologically, and he says, and then I met
the person who changed my life, And.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I thought he's talking about his wife. He's talking about
Joe pano his agent.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Agent, and and and Will was and Will was the
fut what Jerry knew Joe penal Well.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Jerry made a NodD at that too.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I know Joe Panos's name.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
I don't know. David Mulla Getta yea.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yes and is more Holly thought, I mean David mullaged, Molly,
would you.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Give Jerry an eight year contract for a Hall of fame?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
More, Holly thought of Mulla Getta salty Dog's back here.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, keeping it real is back, okay, and.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Well we are we are having these reunions of you know,
recently great.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Cowboy's talking about talking about another t.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
L C looks lighter. You stopped playing the game?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Stop ready, wait already wait?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Well, actually Bill Roman ask, he says, it's two things.
You get fit or you get fat. Right when you leave,
you leave the game here and speaking of fit, Dak
Prescott right now.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Well, Bill Roman asking, he got off them Royd So
don't do that salty.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's the facts. I don't like the truth.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
You know Roman, he ain't wrong about that one.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know, Roman on them Roy's. But he's still marking now,
oh yeah, he got off them Royds too, was still
working out.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Man got newt bring Bill Romanowski did this company?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He did not?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I I did, Bill Roman as he said, you know,
because he was it was a super Bowl, a radio row.
He's pitching his nutritional product, Get Nutrition Royd Free.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I used them so they're good, y, I used them back.
Just do the dirtiest. Why's that dirty dude is a
roy guy? That's the fact.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yes, I think you're going to Prescott, Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Ed, thank you, Dak Prescott, not on Royce. He looks fit.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
He always looks fit. He ever, he looked like he's
in shape.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
He admitted.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Today we were doing a little walk off, says Board.
Tad tried to break us up.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
In the morning. We were talking to Dak right, he calvit.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
The nada sent up talking this time we're talking about
the crawfis ball, talking about his way, talking about running
all that stuff anyway, and then Tad walks over there
to end it.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
At some point, somebody has to.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You got Zach, you got Jerry, you got Marcus, where
twenty guys.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
You got to tell you you don't have to be
over here trying to end and thinking that gonna give
us something.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You got plenty things to worry about. Leave us alone.
Were not positive. He's a grown man. He doesn't need
a babysitter.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
That could be salty anyway, he said, he's he and
his wife said they recalibrated his redistributed his weight, which
he told us last weeks. I said, you already had
big legs, because they tried to say he moved his
weight from his chest to his legs. I said he
already had big legs. He said, but yeah, my legs
more muscle. I have more muscle and more muscle now
(23:14):
than they were before. So he says he maybe five
pounds lighter. He's always around two thirty, you know, maybe
five pounds lighter, but he has redistributed his weight from
his chest to his leg He's doing more legs stuff,
obviously coming off.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Of the torn uh hamstring.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
He's also admitted that because of the torm hamstring rehabbing
the torm hamstring. He told us last week he's running more.
He's running more, doing more running, doing more sprinting. And
he also told us last week not today. We were
at the Gale on Friday night, which we talked about
that he can run and want he needs to, and
that's part of the game that needs to be part
(23:52):
of his game to be able to run, you know,
just like a shot. He's not necessarily doing the zone
read stuff, but extending plays and doing things when it's
third down, because I can tell you that that turned
down opportunities, you know, since the ankle injury, to make
plays with his feet to stait there and throw the ball.
And I'm saying, well, they're plays there. You need to
go get the first down.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
They need to have somebody else who can run the
football effectively and not be counting on a thirty two
year old quarterback and me making plays with him, no doubt,
but find the bucket right all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
But he does. He's not a dual quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Two point three. When he gets above to two point three,
you know about two point three still on the seventeen games.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
He needs to start seventeen games. That's what he needs
to prioritize.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It knows seventeen games. You got the two point three.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
That element was missing last year too. I think Frankly
a lot of it and go.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And he had his year before when he was an
MVP candidate. He did did more than that. I was saying,
go back to that Detroit game when he avoid a second.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
You know yeah, I was gonna say, ce Lambs one
of the best kind of off kilter, like, oh, hey,
this play is going this way. Receivers I think there
are in the league so that you can you're gonna
have to need that.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I thought it was interesting when when Tyron Smith was
giving out the platitudes, he talked about Dak Prescott went
in and said, you're my QB one forever.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
He mentioned Romo earlier, but he did not call him
his QB one forever. He did not, and he attributed
his love of Dak for the deep feelings and relationships
he has throughout the locker room, that there'll be lifelong friends.
And everybody seems to talk about Dak like that. I mean,
Zach Martin said something very similar.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
He's a quarterback. I mean, Dak is assalted earth guy.
We talked about the leadership and this is natural he does.
It's not fake with him, and he's same day with
the media. You know, one thing I've noted, We've all
noted that he sits in the locker room every day.
He comes every day and he'll talk to you, not
just on his day, but he'll talk and he treats her.
He's always treated everybody saying, and you talk about the
leadership is always first one in you talk to him.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Always being healthy. He's always been healthy, but ben in state.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
But he treats people like people. He's never been too
big for his bridges.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
He also answers questions too, and I think he actually
gives and honestly, yeah, he even had a moment at
the at the Gale the other day where like there
was a question I don't think he was necessarily too
thrilled about, and he had a kind of a salty
response and even mid answer goes, yeah, you know, to
be honest, I'm trying to be more of an optimist.
I probably shouldn't have said it like that anyway.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
So he's had this self.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Calvin asked hibout being injury prone.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
You named him.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, he tried to, you know, he tried to say
he had the finger.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
You had the finger and you had to ankle, getting
your anchor fractured. Because the way someone tackled you on turf,
breaking your thumb on a helmet and pulling a hamstring
to me is not examplely injured prone. Yes, you miss games,
but that's not he's always hurt or that's not because
you know the finger, like every how many quarterbacks have
(26:35):
hit the hand on helmet and and busted a finger
all the time. It's all the time, that's not it.
But we as media group it all together. And so
he was salty with Calvin on this.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Most of the last five seasons. No, it's fair to
say that injuries are concerned with that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Injury of the concern, but that doesn't make you injury prone.
But yes, is that salty? He said, that was I'm
just sending he's poort of you.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
No, No, Dak is salt of the earth. Are you salty?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Keep I've been trying to be honest.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I'm just trying to be honest and I'm just giving
you the real I'm not sugarcoating it that because you
don't sugarcoat things that make you salty.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, so be it.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
It is amazing and Dak said this right, it's amazing
that he's one of the oldest players on this team
and going into his tenth season as a starter.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, and what's so crazy about the injuries that you
go through? His first five six seasons, he never missed a.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Game right under Jason Garrett, he never missed again, never
missed the Carthy gets here, he's gone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And it's all flu you know, different things.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
But it's you know, it's not like like Romo had
to call him on that rebroke the color on because
when once you do what, you do it again. It's
not like that they had to back what is recurring
and once you just like sure, once you get a
back injuries never getting healed it's always gonna you know,
we're still dealing with that back. It's like with tiring.
And we talk about Tyre you talking about in Entrew Pro.
Youre talking about a guy who has only had four
full seasons in the NFL Okay during his Hall of
(27:56):
Fame career. He since twenty fifteen, he has not played
a will miss at least three games a season is
twenty fifteen. That's more injury prone than what Dek has
gone through.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Well, and doesn't that When you look at Tyron Smith,
the physical specimen that he is even today, and you
realize how much how many games he's missed because of interests,
You're like, what a violent game this is? That it
could do something to take that guy off. You don't
yield on a consistent base.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Sometimes you can be two round tight, you know, and
maybe his body is so tight, is so sturdy that
you know it's prone to things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know, because.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
That's a problem.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Right, Well, he had a neck, but it was a
back all of that, and then you know, then you know,
but but some of those things that that were reoccurring.
But I'm just saying that because he's a great god.
He he's built like a block of granted, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
There before he talks like one before.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Tyron Smith showed up.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
You know it was and we've covered a lot of
office linemen. You know there were fat boys. There were
big boys. I mean they were no one was built
like him. I mean even after Zach Martin and Grays,
he got built like Tyron Smith. Right, you know talent,
you know Nate, you know those were big boys.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You know, you look at Derek Knar's big boys.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Tyrone Smith looked like a tight hen playing left tack
on his body. So you know he got Yeah, and
you know people talking about him having a six.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Pack, thirty with a six pack, yeah, and he said
thirty seven inch arms.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Well, we were talking about like you either get fitter
you get fat, right, Zack barn is gonna slim down,
you know, and he already.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Who said that you either get fitter you get fat?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Who you said that?
Speaker 9 (29:26):
He said it?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Who said it?
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Who?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Your point, Tyron, though, we are not going to see
Tyron like slim down or anything.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
No, that guy is just going to be jacked I
think forever.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I like what he said.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
He's got to fight with his kids and now he's
got to wrestle with his almost boy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, big boys, that's take a break. I need a break.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
You need to tell him when to stop, which is.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Like Romano, What do you need? Next week is a draft?
Speaker 9 (29:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
What are you hearing? You insiders? What are you hearing?
At the Cowboys? If they stay at twelve? Do that next?
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Speaker 4 (32:12):
Welcome back to the mediamash right here on Dallas Cowboys
dot Com. We've got Claire Till, We've got Edward. We've
got Joe Hooyd. I merely knew he scruggs. The draft
is next week in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Dallas Cowboys
have the twelfth overall Pickbrian Schottheimer's the new head coach,
so Will mcclay's the player personnel director, along with Stephen
Jones and staff. I've been putting in the work here,
So we'll just go round the table. Joe, what your
(32:34):
source is in telling you right now? Cowboys pick number twelve?
What do you anticipate?
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Yeah, the thing I would anticipate is, oh, he goes
hook him already. I think a pass catcher is probably
what I would put my logical bet on. I think
they want to pair someone next to CD Lamb, and
I think if you look at the way the draft
is structured, if you're not getting him at twelve, I
don't know if you're getting him at forty four in
terms of a viable, instant impact candidate that could be
opposite a CD Lamb. So I look at a guy
like tedro McMillan or Matthew Golden as potential candidates, maybe
(33:01):
a Mecca Buka in a trade down situation. The one
wildcard I kind of keep coming back to, though, is
what if they don't want to get with that first
pick a robin for Ceedee Lamb, but if they want
to get a robin for Michah Parsons in the long run.
I know they signed Dante Fower, but you saw what
the Eagles did. Shamar Stewart's kind of a guy that
has all the talent in the world but no production,
and I love I think NFL coaches love to say, here,
(33:22):
let me put my hands on him, and I'll take
him to places that he hasn't been yet. I don't
know how successful that usually is. It Could he be
Daniel Hunter or could he be Vernon Golston.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
That's kind of the wildcard I'm looking at. But I
think receivers still the logical.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Best ABUCA got from a championship program.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
That's right with that ed I've been told that if
one of the two top receivers is there, that's where
they'd like to go. If not, then they take the
best offensive lineman, best pass rusher, or best corner. I
think they're more concerned about corner than we recognize. You know,
we've been so fascinated by Hey, they need a dynamic
(33:56):
playmaker or two on offense, and I think they feel
that as well.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
But don't overlook.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Uh, they're concerned about the cornerback positions, especially slot corner
without the great Jordan Lewis one of your favorite clients.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What what player with corner?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I don't know which corner?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Will Johnson?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
J Bart Know what will Johnson?
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Isn't he going to concern people like because he wasn't
concerned about his speed coming off a foot injury where
he only played six games, and he wouldn't run for anybody.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I don't want to on the slow corner. I want
is Everson Walls, Cubby. That's the only one I want.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I know.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
They want long armed guys like Dan Quinn did at
corner with great speed.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
And that's the problem with jadd Ay Baron is that
he doesn't have long arms. But the dude is a
playmaker and could be in the slot. That's the one thing,
but it doesn't really fit.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
And so piggybacking on that. And I love joahday Baron.
I think it is a playmaker. I think he has
a high floor. I think he can't miss prospect. He's
gonna help a teams. Yeah, he's gonna help a team regardless.
I don't I'm not a philosophy to draft a nickel
corner slot corner with twelve. And I don't think the
Cowboys are if he gonna be outside. One thing they
do have neat outside they could move. Yeah, yeah, they
(35:03):
got to dad outside because Diggs is you know, is
he won't be there to start the season.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
But just getting back to what Joe's talking about. And
I've for.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Weeks been saying it's gonna be tat, It's gonna be taped,
It's gonna be taped. But just the more I drilled down,
the more I think about it, I think Golden speed,
Golden's route running pairs so well with CD. And I
just think that that four two nine, that route running, Uh,
big game player. Uh, he has a lot of upside
(35:33):
because he was what I will say late Bloom. He
didn't really bloom until the second half of the season
in Texas was Isaiah Bond got hurt. Uh, there's a
lot of production that there that that the untapped production
that can be there for him. I think he's the
perfect fit as well. Yeah, for genty, I think they
would move up. They would take genty if he was there,
but he's not gonna be there. Uh where they're added twelve,
(35:54):
I'm seeing receiver. I will say golden. But yeah, they
want to move back. Steven said it on the radio.
They would love to move back, but I don't know
the mark is going to be there for them to
get value in a trade back.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
I think the interesting couple of quick stats on on McMillan.
We know, I mean, he's got prototypical size right, and
he makes he has ridiculous catch radius. He's acrobatic, but
he doesn't have great speed, Like he doesn't have elite speed.
The Cowboys going to be scared of that. But listen,
one stat I want to give you here.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He's a chain mover.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
He led the FBS with one hundred and forty five
receiving first downs over the last three seasons. His sixty
receiving first downs in twenty twenty three, third most in
the FBS, behind Roma Duze and Malik Neighbors, both first
round picks.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Incredible production.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yes the guy could play. Let me just throw this
one at no offense. Joe, your little fine.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
I know where I'm staying.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But Alvin Harperpojoe.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
When they brought in Alvin Harper to go with Michael Irvin,
you know he wasn't the speedster. They got that from Alexander, right,
and then they kept bringing in different speed guys. Could
we see Tet in that type of role and Alvin
Harper to a Michael Irvin Or am I going trying
to connect too much to old cowboy?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Well? The problem?
Speaker 7 (37:12):
I mean, Golden's a great speed guy, right, he ran
four to nine the fastest time at the combine, but
he doesn't have height.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
He's only five. Was he five to eleven?
Speaker 9 (37:21):
Yeah, he's about five one.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Five small though he's not five. He's bigger than Brandon.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Cooks, but he's not as big as McMillan.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
McMillan six body type wise is more like Alvin Harper
to Michael Irvin to Cede Lamb. But do you trust
that he's gonna get be able to get open. I mean,
he made a lot of downfield plays, but he's not open.
Is Dad gonna be comfortable throwing at a guy who's
not necessarily open?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Out and the end?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know, Steve Young said one of the greatest things ever.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
He said, you know the difference between playing quarterback in
college football and playing quarterback in pro football. In college football,
everybody's open. In the NFL, nobody's open. You got to
throw him open.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
One thing about this offense, one of criticisms that there's
so many that the lack of separation.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We don't know what the offense is.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Well, he's gonna be he's gonna be a little Michae McCarthy,
but it's running. But but one thing to criticize this
receiving corps in the passing game over the past few
years was a lack of separation, you know, and this
another guy that doesn't get separation. And yeah, you're not
gonna out athlete and out bully guys NFL like you
did college.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
That should not. That can't be your calling card, your
only calling car. That can't be your main calling card.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Is also said Jerry Rice wasn't fast enough. They also
said Emmon Smith wasn't fast enough, so true.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, they're famous, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
And Tom tom Brady was the sixth round pick, so yeah,
so every every sixth round pick gonna be Tom Brady too.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
This is now minsault.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, but anyway, but all I'm saying is I'm just
gonna kid it this humor. But yeah, I mean I
like that, I don't I like a guy big body.
I don't think that has had that in this offense.
And and I don't think he's had a guy that
can make contested counts. But it's too many times his receivers.
I didn't like the slats and stop Rowse to Brandon Cooks,
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it's two minutes to have.
Speaker 9 (39:01):
You have McMillan like Dez, he can't be Yeah, No,
I think I.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Don't know if he has Dead's passion. You know he hasability, but.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Truck gout of trouble you when you're investing a twelve
pick of the guy who says he doesn't want to
watch film anymore than I.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Don't know if it does his passion.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
But but again I don't you know, those are the
two options I think, And there's no question I just
spend in.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
Terms of being athletic when the balls in the air
competing for the ball and not necessarily creating separation.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
That to me is like Dez yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
And this this discussion is fascinating though, because this is
exactly I think the discussion is going to happen in
the Cowboys warning when it comes down to it, because
I think both these guys are going to be available.
And if you look at what Steven Jones kind of
talked about over in the Owner's meaning, they want to
get explosive someone opposite a seed Lamb.
Speaker 9 (39:40):
Well explosive.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Yes, you think four two nine speed, even though Matthew
Golden doesn't really play with four two nine speed, but
you think of also just big plays. And actually Tteroro
McMillan had more yards per yards per catch than Matthew
Golden did last year.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
He had sixteen point five.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
And I think when you have a big play guy
that his thing is going up and making fifty fifty balls,
you can push the all downfield. That can be explosive too.
It depends on what kind of flavor you want.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
And it'd be interesting how much you know how much
you go back to to not last season, but two
years ago when when they were good and before their
coach left, and yeah, and they were, they were top
twenty five teams.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
He's a good play. Both both players are very good.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
If they stay at twelve and you say one of
these two guys is your pick here, I don't think that.
I don't think they'll be off base. But my goodness, gracious,
we're talking about this, and what if it happens like
it did a couple of years ago when uh uh oh,
you know, they take the corner from Alabama, Denver takes
the corner from Alabama. Then JC goes to Carolina and
that the corners you've been talking about are gone.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
What if the receivers have got to be interesting? We'll see,
I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
And then you trade down for Micah Parsons.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Gotta have somebody want to trade up.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
And this draft is not especially not filled with special players.
And we don't know if guys are going to trade up.
And again, once you try to trade back, are you
gonna get the value?
Speaker 7 (40:53):
And you I mean, you talk about the Cowboys on offense, obviously,
thirty three touchdowns last year. They were the second worst
team in the red zone to the Giants. But don't
overlook the fact that only Carolina allowed more points. So
they're bad on They were bad on both sides of
the ball. When you look at all the numbers and
break it all down, like you know, red zone, home records,
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point differential, it's amazing. They even considered bringing Mike McCarthy back.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Did you say they were home wreckers home wreck or
did the wreckers they were home rerecords?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Nobody was happy and home. They wasn't happy home last year.
It was a home wrecker.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
A home record they got, they.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Got, but serious they got.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Needs the cornerback, they got, need to running back and
needs the receiver as a tackle.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
They still need help there. Let's say linebacker. Let's end this,
let's in it. Thank you, home rerecord, thank you. That's
what they You called the Cowboys home wreckers.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
You called them home wreckers.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
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Clarence sale on new He scruggs. We've just left the
retirement press conference for Tyron Smith of the Dallas Cowboys
number seventy seven and Edwarder. I will start with you, okay.
Jerry Jones said he's going in the Ring of Honor.
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He said, he's going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
You are in the Canton Writers' Wing of the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
How would you welcome to make knowledge?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
And I'm not sure there's really a writer's wing.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
But I mean go to then you're in. I mean,
y'all got to say, who's your classmates?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
My classmates?
Speaker 7 (01:03):
I followed Chris Mortenson, Actually Andrea Kramer came after me.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Williams Goose Wan's famously said he was in talking about
a player he's in my class.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Jerry was actually inducted in the same year. I went, ironically,
enough your class there you go. Yeah, I mean, it's
it's kind of And I was just talking to Zach
Martin about this because we saw him retire just a
couple of weeks ago in the same building, and it
was like, how do you have all these great potentially
Hall of Fame players and all of them leave without
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ever playing in a championship game, much less a Super Bowl.
And I mean Jerry even said it right, he said,
it's a tragedy that we were never played a Super
Bowl with you.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Out there at left tackle.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
And you know, also, you forget that the guy was
twenty years old when they drafted him with like ninth
overall pick from USC.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You know, obviously Hudson Howe coached at USC and.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
Was a big advocate of his And we'll tell you
he had everything it took to be great, especially the
desire to be great beyond all the physical skills. But
for Jerry to say he was the youngest player in
the NFL his first two seasons in the NFL is
quite remarkable. And that he had the highest character grade
of any player in that draft. And you just look
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at him now, You're like, he looks like a rookie.
Now I mean that incredible body kind. I mean it's
over three hundred pounds, that he looks like he's two fifty.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I was talking to Deck and he said he's down
to two ninety and like Zach martinzlready down to two seventy.
But yeah, he looked like it could still play. It's
interesting when you bring up him not being able to
win and regret and these great players. Another great player
leaves here. And I've been written about this for a while.
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Jerry gets to blame, right, and you list the quarterbacks
to get the blame with the Deck or Romo, you know.
And we never attached the failure to the Wittings of
World or the Zechs or the World or Times of
the World, of all the guys who've come through here
and have not had success. But it's always attached to
Jerry or attached to the quarterback, and they're the ones
who can't get it done. But we don't really attach
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it to these other great players. And I'm just saying that, yes,
it's it's disappointing, you know, you see time and time again.
And I think that's why one reason why Cowboy fans
fall in love with players, because that's all they have
the whole on too, because they don't have the Super
Bowl success and so another great player. And at the
end of the day, it's not all just Jerry, it's
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on the player. They all carry some of that way.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I spoke to here, but I spoke to DeMarcus.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Wear one on one and they question.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I said to him, you got the ring, you had
to leave, but what is what do you think is
going through their minds to have this kind of press
conference and they're not gonna get.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What you had.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
They'll they'll end up in the Pro Football Hall of
Fame like you, but they won't have that ring and say, man, yes,
got to be really hard to be that good and
to be you know.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Because Zach Martin said, it's a blemish on all of
our rights.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I asked Theaware the same thing, and he said when
I when I when when Tyron talked about it his
regret or not winning, he said he looked in Dak side,
he looked at Zack side, and he saw them all
you know, feeling that that left that that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's something that would regret, you know, and so you know, yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Tough well, and and and the frustrating about us as
media people. We always want to put it on one thing,
and we always want to put it on one person
or one thing. This is why they haven't won in
thirty years of this is why they couldn't get it done.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And it's not just one thing. It is not just
one person.
Speaker 8 (04:43):
Yeah, and I am glad that you brought up the
fact that DeMarcus had to leave to get that ring,
because when you look at the careers of Zach Martin
and Tyron Smith, they also made an investment in the Cowboys.
Tyron Smith's not an eight year deal. That's kind of unhearded.
He wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy for the rest
of his life, but also to win a title here.
It didn't happen. It is kind of a traged and
to your point, there's a lot of reasons why it
didn't happen. You know, you kind of look at some
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of the things that happened in the postseason, and you know,
if this would have happened, if that would happened, ultimately
it didn't. And these guys are going to go in the
Hall of Fame one day without rings on their fingers.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Different all that talent and never have a good enough team.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And because it's always it was they had great talent offense,
they weren't great on the defense.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And like look at you look at the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
They had a great offensive line, they got the quarterback,
they got receivers, they got great running back. They also
got the number one defensive league. I mean, the Cowboys
never put it all together. And so we focused on
the line, the great wall, but we don't focus on
what was lacking on the defense side of the way,
why they can't stop the run, which is ultimately you
know what failed them. And you brought up d where
he had to leave. No, the Cowboys cut it.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
Yeah, okay, but in order to get it wasn't here.
Speaker 10 (05:45):
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But it wasn't like he left on his own volition.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Okay, if the Cowboys wouldn't have cut him in the
stadium and you probably still be ring.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
He would be one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, one of those guys.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
You know he left they cut him, Yeah, you know,
but it wasn't here. Is my point.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I think the most amazing thing about Tyron Smith, and
to me this kind of says it all about how
great he was despite not playing on a championship or
a Super Bowl contending team, is he got drafted before
JJ Watt, who was a three time Defensive Player of
the Year in the NFL in Houston. And not one
person has ever said, how could we have taken Tyron
(06:21):
Smith over JJ Watt?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You're very very correct about that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And I remember that draft and it was so many
years of holding on the Floes l Adams, Okay, what
are they going to replace him? Where you replace him?
And they finally decided, Okay, we've got to make this move.
And it was a twenty year old right tackle. A
lot of people don't remember Matt Kalill was basically the
guy at left tackle at USC and Tyrone was playing
on the right and he was the young guy. There
(06:47):
were less questions about Matt Kalill, who turned out to
be an okay player than actually his little brother, the
center at US. He turned out to be a better
football player than he did.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
But ironically, all these years later, when we talk about
the what the cow was missed?
Speaker 9 (07:04):
Yeah, they ain't it.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Ain't they missed him both. They only get criticized for
missing one.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
No, they didn't miss o JJ because they got a
Hall of Famer. They missed on TJ.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
You know what else is interesting is and Jason Garrett
was here today that that was his first pick, right,
the first pick of the Jason Garrett era was Tyrone Smith.
And they hadn't drafted an offensive lineman in the first
round since nineteen eighty one before that. And it's like
Jerry said, you know, he he made us think differently
about the value of taking an offensive lineman in the
(07:35):
first round because then they did it with Travis Frederick,
they did it with Zach Martin. Because they did that,
and because of Garrett wanting to play a certain way,
then that justified taking Ezekiel Elliott with the fourth overall pick.
And Garrett said, that first pick kind of defines your identity.
It's a symbolic of the kind of team you want
to have, and Tyron Smith certainly was that for him.
(07:55):
And in a week's time, Brian Schottenheimer gets a chance
to do the exact same thing with the twelfth overall pick.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, Garrett wanted to go back to the nineties style,
so he wanted to rebuild office lines also focused on
the running game, which is why they went and got
Zeke and focused on that and paid z ultimately because
he was about he was still part of that ninety philosophy.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So what about Tyler Giden? What does that say? We'll see.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, right them off. I mean the second year, you
have to be concerned.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Talas Smith worked. Tyllas Smith is damn good.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Okay, he's one of the most impressive young people walking
this building I've seen since I've been covering the team.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
But Tyler Guiden, Tyrone Swith said he's the next one. Yeah,
Tyler Smith.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
There's two things that take from that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
The question about guy one, they did say, Okay, we
know it's going to take a while, and if we're
looking fairly at how many starts that he had in
college and then what he missed in training camp, there's
a gap. So what kind of work are they doing
in the off season with him? What is he doing?
And man, if you're Brian Schottenheimer a tiring can we
(09:05):
hire you for a couple of weeks to come on
after training camp and and help this young man?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
That's what the office line coach is for you know
what they got.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
They got a new coach, a great office line coach office,
the coordinatory got a teacher from Kansas.
Speaker 11 (09:19):
Date.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So I'm going to form a players to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I'm gonna push back on you. What did we just
talk about? Hey, you had d Wear out here helping
you out. So so some point in time, I do
think a third party validation from dudes who were doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hey, this is what it is.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
But d Ware was helping him as a defensive player,
teach them about what defenders are gonna do.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We're talking about now, right right? Former Giants? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Then the Cowboys hated right, what was it at Here's
a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I was there too, hated it.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
But coaches are limited to coaches are limited. I mean
players are not limited in how much they can help
each other to new his point, I mean you can
bring in someone if.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You want to work with, if you want to coach.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
He worked next to Zach Barton last like.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Coach or you want to coach. Just wants to argue,
I don't. We we're not supposed to agree. It is
the show. We're not supposed to all have the same
thought process. That's fine, and you're we're not You're wrong,
all right, he wrote, I just.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Just let's just let's just bring Dion, let's bring everybody
to two to every position and let the coaches go.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Well, they had a chance to bring Dean, but.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
They yet, You've got you Roger back.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They got got a first running back, you got a
first round receivers. Don't have got her first round pick
last year.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
By all accounts, last year's first round pick was below standard.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
With John Lee to comes ironically, I don't e think
they should have let Tyan go and they should have
had him to work with Tyler last year.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
That's why Tyler, if he was a teammate, I think
I think he got more mileage at him being a
teammate and teaching than than him coming in.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I was more interested in making ten million dollars and
playing for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Fair.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So before we just throw guy out here, I'm trying
to find I'm trying to say it again.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Why can't why can't it just be a bad pit.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
It's too early to write it off.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I look, I look at tern awful rookie. What's the
standard level.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
For Tyler Guiden or for for what you should be
getting already at left tackle to be a serviceable starting
left tackle. Say what they need from Tyler Guiden.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We're not looking for serviceable.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I think you're not looking for serviceable.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
If he's serviceable, you're a blind side protective.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
He was not single last year.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
I think it's a service ball in year two eventually
takes all their steps in year two.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think if he's serviceable, that's a step.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
The worst indictment of Tyler Guiden. And he was changing
levels right from college chapro and changing sides from right
and we are like Tyrone Smith did successfully. But the
biggest indictment to me is at the end of the
season when Mike McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer and all these
coaches were working for their jobs, they.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
Didn't want on the field because he wasn't ready.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
They picked a veteran journeyman over him.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
These are all legitimate and correct points, and that's why
I bring up there.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
So let's got to effect guy.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Let's got to motivate the guy, like he's got to say, hey,
I'm better than this.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
This is a big year for him.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So I'm talking about putting resources that you have as
a as an organization towards trying to make sure, Hey,
let's not let this guy fall down. How do we
get him better? Obviously there's got to be work from Guidon.
He's got to be worked with the offensive line coach.
But if I'm sitting up here asking Tyrone Smith to
come in as a consultant for a couple of weeks
out in Oxgard, California, how is that bad?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
You know what's not bad either? They got a twelve
pick in the draft. They got a twelve pick in
the draft. They brought in two first run office in
line at least two Membo and uh, the guy from
Texas Banks. They brought him in for visits, thirty national visits.
If they're on a board, you can do that too.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't think they'll do that. I think I said
you can't Obviocely. We don't know what they're going to do.
But they brought him in for a reason, and they
they're doing their due diligence for a reason.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Sure they not line in replace.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yeah, they're doing their due diligence. Well they you know
they didn't they just sign another right guard. I got
like five right guard.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
They've got a lot of competition the right guard. And
if you're looking for you're looking for a step up
with that first round pick you could.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Get there, you're not taking it.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Right to Claire's point, In all fairness, Brian Schottenheimer did
make a point of emphasis bringing in offensive line coaches. Right,
I mean the offensive coordinate Clayton Adams is an offensive
line coach. Uh, And so is the offensive line coach
that they brought in from Kansas State. So right, Riley Dixon, Right,
So I'm.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Throwing I'm throwing all. I'm throwing all I can to
try to. I guess I come from that old school
of everybody deserves a chance opportunity to fail. You know,
for sure helped if you give him everything and he
still can't do it. And this just in some ways
even helps you get to the decision quicker, either we
trade the guy or we move on. But after one year,
when they said, will mclak talked about take him a minute,
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all right.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
I guess so I would help speed up. I'm a
okay with Tyron Smith being part of it. If the
two coaches who are coaching the offensive line sign that, well.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's what consulted with me. Like Hey, look, we're gonna
do this and this.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
But as a player, and as you know, sometimes hearing
it from someone who's done it is a little bit.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
What worked for him might not work for Tyler. He
might not three voices when he's trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Tyler, what Tyron Smith has size? Friends got don't guy
that body.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
That ability, don't have it.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I know, that's my point zero.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
So what made him especially but you know what you know,
but you know what he can do. You got all
this time was with nine training camp. Go over Tyler's
Tyrans Smith's house, let's get some one on one. You
know they do it. DeMarcus Lawrence does it. We don't
have to bring him to training camp. If you want
him to Tildrin, go go.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
So you just don't want official capacity, but you want
him to work.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't want to have a problem with either way.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I'm just saying that I don't know him coming to
camp was going to make the difference. It's all I'm saying.
I was addressed. Listen, there's nothing wrong with getting outside. Hell,
that's what you do. These guys getting outside help all
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
They got tight end camps, they got off of the
line camp there. There's a ton of it's.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Mike because a ton of resources out of here to
be coach. You got Big Duke over there and he
and he works with some of the best office line
of the league. So he and he's been under Duke
when he was drafted before. Yes, this is all he's
been with Duke since the end of the season. He's
getting help.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
This is a huge offseason for Tyler gud Yeah, he's
getting it. I'm not ready.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
I'm not ready to write him off yet, to be honest,
I'm concerned. Yeah, that's fair early indications. They don't encourage
your sure.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
And hasn't had a lot of experience anyway, he's changing.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Levels, getting paid like a first round pick because he
was a first round pick.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Thank you, so all that, But.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
He's taking a check.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
He took that starting job.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You don't have a choice.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He taking a check. He took their starting job. It's
on him, wanted to put out, it's on him. He's
on Dak's blind side. That's the job.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
They've talked about it.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
They went over their skills a little bit, they went
over their skis a little bit with him because he's
so raw. They shouldn't have just thrown him in the fire,
and they should have more of an insurance plan in
mind that that is the job.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
And Mike McCarthy would say that wasn't our plan. Like
the worst thing to happen to us in training camp
was we lost our veteran left tackle that we planned
to have.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Who was the Journeymanduka Orga, Yeah, who's who's in Jacksonville now?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
He's not a journeyman. Yeah, he's a journey That's what
I call it.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's a Jacksonville now.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
But that I would say McCarthy would say that was
not their plan to have Tyler Geyiton just give it
be given the job.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
In training camp.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I also don't think having Tuma as your insurance plan
was probably the best ultimate result anyways.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
But Tyran will be missed. Just tied a bow on
this segment. Tyron Smith will be missed.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He talked more today than he did at ten years
he was here.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
You just had to bring the little parting shot. He
tied the boat.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
He did take talk more today. It's a fact the facts,
because you.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Don't judge a guy based on that. And he's still
a great player.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Would you love a little more cooperation. You're inside out
of the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I think he's a first battlet Hall of fame where
I think he's a Hall of fame.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I don't know IF's gonna get in the first batle.
I think he's a ring honor guy.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I think he's one of the best left tackles during
his time, and he was a uh All Decade team
twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
He is all of that. Okay, he's still talking more
than day than he did all his intocurreer. I see
where it's going today.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
We got salty Dog Clarence Hill here, the LS Hall
of Famer, Edwarder WFAA TV, the LS is on child,
on the truth. See the media mash when we come back.
Dak Prescott looking good. He was in the press conference today.
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I'm Newie Scruggs press conference for Tyron Smith retirement today
signs of contract one day to be with the Dallas
Cowboys and Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones with their all
the dice is tiring of talking. Didn't do a lot
of talking about he did today, REDI statement out there.
I got talked to his mother afterwards, and she talked
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about how proud she was of him.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And he'll be missed. You know.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
It's funny, I thought when he was reading uncomfortably from
his script making his retirement announcement and going through it
kind of chronologically, and he says, and then I met
the person who changed my life, And.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I thought he's talking about his wife. He's talking about
Joe pano his agent.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Agent, and and and Will was and Will was the
fut what Jerry knew Joe penal Well.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Jerry made a NodD at that too.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I know Joe Panos's name.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
I don't know. David Mulla Getta yea.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yes and is more Holly thought, I mean David mullaged, Molly,
would you.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Give Jerry an eight year contract for a Hall of fame?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
More, Holly thought of Mulla Getta salty Dog's back here.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, keeping it real is back, okay, and.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Well we are we are having these reunions of you know,
recently great.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Cowboy's talking about talking about another t.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
L C looks lighter. You stopped playing the game?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Stop ready, wait already wait?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Well, actually Bill Roman ask, he says, it's two things.
You get fit or you get fat. Right when you leave,
you leave the game here and speaking of fit, Dak
Prescott right now.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Well, Bill Roman asking, he got off them Royd So
don't do that salty.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's the facts. I don't like the truth.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
You know Roman, he ain't wrong about that one.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know, Roman on them Roy's. But he's still marking now,
oh yeah, he got off them Royds too, was still
working out.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Man got newt bring Bill Romanowski did this company?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He did not?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I I did, Bill Roman as he said, you know,
because he was it was a super Bowl, a radio row.
He's pitching his nutritional product, Get Nutrition Royd Free.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I used them so they're good, y, I used them back.
Just do the dirtiest. Why's that dirty dude is a
roy guy? That's the fact.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yes, I think you're going to Prescott, Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Ed, thank you, Dak Prescott, not on Royce. He looks fit.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
He always looks fit. He ever, he looked like he's
in shape.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
He admitted.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Today we were doing a little walk off, says Board.
Tad tried to break us up.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
In the morning. We were talking to Dak right, he calvit.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
The nada sent up talking this time we're talking about
the crawfis ball, talking about his way, talking about running
all that stuff anyway, and then Tad walks over there
to end it.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
At some point, somebody has to.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You got Zach, you got Jerry, you got Marcus, where
twenty guys.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
You got to tell you you don't have to be
over here trying to end and thinking that gonna give
us something.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You got plenty things to worry about. Leave us alone.
Were not positive. He's a grown man. He doesn't need
a babysitter.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
That could be salty anyway, he said, he's he and
his wife said they recalibrated his redistributed his weight, which
he told us last weeks. I said, you already had
big legs, because they tried to say he moved his
weight from his chest to his legs. I said he
already had big legs. He said, but yeah, my legs
more muscle. I have more muscle and more muscle now
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than they were before. So he says he maybe five
pounds lighter. He's always around two thirty, you know, maybe
five pounds lighter, but he has redistributed his weight from
his chest to his leg He's doing more legs stuff,
obviously coming off.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Of the torn uh hamstring.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
He's also admitted that because of the torm hamstring rehabbing
the torm hamstring. He told us last week he's running more.
He's running more, doing more running, doing more sprinting. And
he also told us last week not today. We were
at the Gale on Friday night, which we talked about
that he can run and want he needs to, and
that's part of the game that needs to be part
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of his game to be able to run, you know,
just like a shot. He's not necessarily doing the zone
read stuff, but extending plays and doing things when it's
third down, because I can tell you that that turned
down opportunities, you know, since the ankle injury, to make
plays with his feet to stait there and throw the ball.
And I'm saying, well, they're plays there. You need to
go get the first down.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
They need to have somebody else who can run the
football effectively and not be counting on a thirty two
year old quarterback and me making plays with him, no doubt,
but find the bucket right all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
But he does. He's not a dual quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Two point three. When he gets above to two point three,
you know about two point three still on the seventeen games.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
He needs to start seventeen games. That's what he needs
to prioritize.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It knows seventeen games. You got the two point three.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
That element was missing last year too. I think Frankly
a lot of it and go.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And he had his year before when he was an
MVP candidate. He did did more than that. I was saying,
go back to that Detroit game when he avoid a second.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
You know yeah, I was gonna say, ce Lambs one
of the best kind of off kilter, like, oh, hey,
this play is going this way. Receivers I think there
are in the league so that you can you're gonna
have to need that.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I thought it was interesting when when Tyron Smith was
giving out the platitudes, he talked about Dak Prescott went
in and said, you're my QB one forever.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
He mentioned Romo earlier, but he did not call him
his QB one forever. He did not, and he attributed
his love of Dak for the deep feelings and relationships
he has throughout the locker room, that there'll be lifelong friends.
And everybody seems to talk about Dak like that. I mean,
Zach Martin said something very similar.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
He's a quarterback. I mean, Dak is assalted earth guy.
We talked about the leadership and this is natural he does.
It's not fake with him, and he's same day with
the media. You know, one thing I've noted, We've all
noted that he sits in the locker room every day.
He comes every day and he'll talk to you, not
just on his day, but he'll talk and he treats her.
He's always treated everybody saying, and you talk about the
leadership is always first one in you talk to him.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Always being healthy. He's always been healthy, but ben in state.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
But he treats people like people. He's never been too
big for his bridges.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
He also answers questions too, and I think he actually
gives and honestly, yeah, he even had a moment at
the at the Gale the other day where like there
was a question I don't think he was necessarily too
thrilled about, and he had a kind of a salty
response and even mid answer goes, yeah, you know, to
be honest, I'm trying to be more of an optimist.
I probably shouldn't have said it like that anyway.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
So he's had this self.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Calvin asked hibout being injury prone.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
You named him.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, he tried to, you know, he tried to say
he had the finger.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
You had the finger and you had to ankle, getting
your anchor fractured. Because the way someone tackled you on turf,
breaking your thumb on a helmet and pulling a hamstring
to me is not examplely injured prone. Yes, you miss games,
but that's not he's always hurt or that's not because
you know the finger, like every how many quarterbacks have
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hit the hand on helmet and and busted a finger
all the time. It's all the time, that's not it.
But we as media group it all together. And so
he was salty with Calvin on this.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Most of the last five seasons. No, it's fair to
say that injuries are concerned with that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Injury of the concern, but that doesn't make you injury prone.
But yes, is that salty? He said, that was I'm
just sending he's poort of you.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
No, No, Dak is salt of the earth. Are you salty?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Keep I've been trying to be honest.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I'm just trying to be honest and I'm just giving
you the real I'm not sugarcoating it that because you
don't sugarcoat things that make you salty.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, so be it.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
It is amazing and Dak said this right, it's amazing
that he's one of the oldest players on this team
and going into his tenth season as a starter.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, and what's so crazy about the injuries that you
go through? His first five six seasons, he never missed a.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Game right under Jason Garrett, he never missed again, never
missed the Carthy gets here, he's gone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And it's all flu you know, different things.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
But it's you know, it's not like like Romo had
to call him on that rebroke the color on because
when once you do what, you do it again. It's
not like that they had to back what is recurring
and once you just like sure, once you get a
back injuries never getting healed it's always gonna you know,
we're still dealing with that back. It's like with tiring.
And we talk about Tyre you talking about in Entrew Pro.
Youre talking about a guy who has only had four
full seasons in the NFL Okay during his Hall of
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Fame career. He since twenty fifteen, he has not played
a will miss at least three games a season is
twenty fifteen. That's more injury prone than what Dek has
gone through.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Well, and doesn't that When you look at Tyron Smith,
the physical specimen that he is even today, and you
realize how much how many games he's missed because of interests,
You're like, what a violent game this is? That it
could do something to take that guy off. You don't
yield on a consistent base.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Sometimes you can be two round tight, you know, and
maybe his body is so tight, is so sturdy that
you know it's prone to things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know, because.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
That's a problem.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Right, Well, he had a neck, but it was a
back all of that, and then you know, then you know,
but but some of those things that that were reoccurring.
But I'm just saying that because he's a great god.
He he's built like a block of granted, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
There before he talks like one before.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Tyron Smith showed up.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
You know it was and we've covered a lot of
office linemen. You know there were fat boys. There were
big boys. I mean they were no one was built
like him. I mean even after Zach Martin and Grays,
he got built like Tyron Smith. Right, you know talent,
you know Nate, you know those were big boys.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You know, you look at Derek Knar's big boys.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Tyrone Smith looked like a tight hen playing left tack
on his body. So you know he got Yeah, and
you know people talking about him having a six.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Pack, thirty with a six pack, yeah, and he said
thirty seven inch arms.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Well, we were talking about like you either get fitter
you get fat, right, Zack barn is gonna slim down,
you know, and he already.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Who said that you either get fitter you get fat?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Who you said that?
Speaker 9 (29:26):
He said it?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Who said it?
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Who?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Your point, Tyron, though, we are not going to see
Tyron like slim down or anything.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
No, that guy is just going to be jacked I
think forever.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I like what he said.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
He's got to fight with his kids and now he's
got to wrestle with his almost boy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, big boys, that's take a break. I need a break.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
You need to tell him when to stop, which is.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Like Romano, What do you need? Next week is a draft?
Speaker 9 (29:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
What are you hearing? You insiders? What are you hearing?
At the Cowboys? If they stay at twelve? Do that next?
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Speaker 4 (32:12):
Welcome back to the mediamash right here on Dallas Cowboys
dot Com. We've got Claire Till, We've got Edward. We've
got Joe Hooyd. I merely knew he scruggs. The draft
is next week in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Dallas Cowboys
have the twelfth overall Pickbrian Schottheimer's the new head coach,
so Will mcclay's the player personnel director, along with Stephen
Jones and staff. I've been putting in the work here,
So we'll just go round the table. Joe, what your
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source is in telling you right now? Cowboys pick number twelve?
What do you anticipate?
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Yeah, the thing I would anticipate is, oh, he goes
hook him already. I think a pass catcher is probably
what I would put my logical bet on. I think
they want to pair someone next to CD Lamb, and
I think if you look at the way the draft
is structured, if you're not getting him at twelve, I
don't know if you're getting him at forty four in
terms of a viable, instant impact candidate that could be
opposite a CD Lamb. So I look at a guy
like tedro McMillan or Matthew Golden as potential candidates, maybe
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a Mecca Buka in a trade down situation. The one
wildcard I kind of keep coming back to, though, is
what if they don't want to get with that first
pick a robin for Ceedee Lamb, but if they want
to get a robin for Michah Parsons in the long run.
I know they signed Dante Fower, but you saw what
the Eagles did. Shamar Stewart's kind of a guy that
has all the talent in the world but no production,
and I love I think NFL coaches love to say, here,
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let me put my hands on him, and I'll take
him to places that he hasn't been yet. I don't
know how successful that usually is. It Could he be
Daniel Hunter or could he be Vernon Golston.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
That's kind of the wildcard I'm looking at. But I
think receivers still the logical.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Best ABUCA got from a championship program.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
That's right with that ed I've been told that if
one of the two top receivers is there, that's where
they'd like to go. If not, then they take the
best offensive lineman, best pass rusher, or best corner. I
think they're more concerned about corner than we recognize. You know,
we've been so fascinated by Hey, they need a dynamic
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playmaker or two on offense, and I think they feel
that as well.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
But don't overlook.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Uh, they're concerned about the cornerback positions, especially slot corner
without the great Jordan Lewis one of your favorite clients.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What what player with corner?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I don't know which corner?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Will Johnson?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
J Bart Know what will Johnson?
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Isn't he going to concern people like because he wasn't
concerned about his speed coming off a foot injury where
he only played six games, and he wouldn't run for anybody.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I don't want to on the slow corner. I want
is Everson Walls, Cubby. That's the only one I want.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I know.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
They want long armed guys like Dan Quinn did at
corner with great speed.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
And that's the problem with jadd Ay Baron is that
he doesn't have long arms. But the dude is a
playmaker and could be in the slot. That's the one thing,
but it doesn't really fit.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
And so piggybacking on that. And I love joahday Baron.
I think it is a playmaker. I think he has
a high floor. I think he can't miss prospect. He's
gonna help a teams. Yeah, he's gonna help a team regardless.
I don't I'm not a philosophy to draft a nickel
corner slot corner with twelve. And I don't think the
Cowboys are if he gonna be outside. One thing they
do have neat outside they could move. Yeah, yeah, they
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got to dad outside because Diggs is you know, is
he won't be there to start the season.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
But just getting back to what Joe's talking about. And
I've for.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Weeks been saying it's gonna be tat, It's gonna be taped,
It's gonna be taped. But just the more I drilled down,
the more I think about it, I think Golden speed,
Golden's route running pairs so well with CD. And I
just think that that four two nine, that route running, Uh,
big game player. Uh, he has a lot of upside
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because he was what I will say late Bloom. He
didn't really bloom until the second half of the season
in Texas was Isaiah Bond got hurt. Uh, there's a
lot of production that there that that the untapped production
that can be there for him. I think he's the
perfect fit as well. Yeah, for genty, I think they
would move up. They would take genty if he was there,
but he's not gonna be there. Uh where they're added twelve,
(35:54):
I'm seeing receiver. I will say golden. But yeah, they
want to move back. Steven said it on the radio.
They would love to move back, but I don't know
the mark is going to be there for them to
get value in a trade back.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
I think the interesting couple of quick stats on on McMillan.
We know, I mean, he's got prototypical size right, and
he makes he has ridiculous catch radius. He's acrobatic, but
he doesn't have great speed, Like he doesn't have elite speed.
The Cowboys going to be scared of that. But listen,
one stat I want to give you here.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He's a chain mover.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
He led the FBS with one hundred and forty five
receiving first downs over the last three seasons. His sixty
receiving first downs in twenty twenty three, third most in
the FBS, behind Roma Duze and Malik Neighbors, both first
round picks.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Incredible production.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yes the guy could play. Let me just throw this
one at no offense. Joe, your little fine.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
I know where I'm staying.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But Alvin Harperpojoe.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
When they brought in Alvin Harper to go with Michael Irvin,
you know he wasn't the speedster. They got that from Alexander, right,
and then they kept bringing in different speed guys. Could
we see Tet in that type of role and Alvin
Harper to a Michael Irvin Or am I going trying
to connect too much to old cowboy?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Well? The problem?
Speaker 7 (37:12):
I mean, Golden's a great speed guy, right, he ran
four to nine the fastest time at the combine, but
he doesn't have height.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
He's only five. Was he five to eleven?
Speaker 9 (37:21):
Yeah, he's about five one.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Five small though he's not five. He's bigger than Brandon.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Cooks, but he's not as big as McMillan.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
McMillan six body type wise is more like Alvin Harper
to Michael Irvin to Cede Lamb. But do you trust
that he's gonna get be able to get open. I mean,
he made a lot of downfield plays, but he's not open.
Is Dad gonna be comfortable throwing at a guy who's
not necessarily open?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Out and the end?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know, Steve Young said one of the greatest things ever.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
He said, you know the difference between playing quarterback in
college football and playing quarterback in pro football. In college football,
everybody's open. In the NFL, nobody's open. You got to
throw him open.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
One thing about this offense, one of criticisms that there's
so many that the lack of separation.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We don't know what the offense is.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Well, he's gonna be he's gonna be a little Michae McCarthy,
but it's running. But but one thing to criticize this
receiving corps in the passing game over the past few
years was a lack of separation, you know, and this
another guy that doesn't get separation. And yeah, you're not
gonna out athlete and out bully guys NFL like you
did college.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
That should not. That can't be your calling card, your
only calling car. That can't be your main calling card.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Is also said Jerry Rice wasn't fast enough. They also
said Emmon Smith wasn't fast enough, so true.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, they're famous, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
And Tom tom Brady was the sixth round pick, so yeah,
so every every sixth round pick gonna be Tom Brady too.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
This is now minsault.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, but anyway, but all I'm saying is I'm just
gonna kid it this humor. But yeah, I mean I
like that, I don't I like a guy big body.
I don't think that has had that in this offense.
And and I don't think he's had a guy that
can make contested counts. But it's too many times his receivers.
I didn't like the slats and stop Rowse to Brandon Cooks,
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it's two minutes to have.
Speaker 9 (39:01):
You have McMillan like Dez, he can't be Yeah, No,
I think I.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Don't know if he has Dead's passion. You know he hasability, but.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Truck gout of trouble you when you're investing a twelve
pick of the guy who says he doesn't want to
watch film anymore than I.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Don't know if it does his passion.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
But but again I don't you know, those are the
two options I think, And there's no question I just
spend in.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
Terms of being athletic when the balls in the air
competing for the ball and not necessarily creating separation.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
That to me is like Dez yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
And this this discussion is fascinating though, because this is
exactly I think the discussion is going to happen in
the Cowboys warning when it comes down to it, because
I think both these guys are going to be available.
And if you look at what Steven Jones kind of
talked about over in the Owner's meaning, they want to
get explosive someone opposite a seed Lamb.
Speaker 9 (39:40):
Well explosive.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Yes, you think four two nine speed, even though Matthew
Golden doesn't really play with four two nine speed, but
you think of also just big plays. And actually Tteroro
McMillan had more yards per yards per catch than Matthew
Golden did last year.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
He had sixteen point five.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
And I think when you have a big play guy
that his thing is going up and making fifty fifty balls,
you can push the all downfield. That can be explosive too.
It depends on what kind of flavor you want.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
And it'd be interesting how much you know how much
you go back to to not last season, but two
years ago when when they were good and before their
coach left, and yeah, and they were, they were top
twenty five teams.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
He's a good play. Both both players are very good.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
If they stay at twelve and you say one of
these two guys is your pick here, I don't think that.
I don't think they'll be off base. But my goodness, gracious,
we're talking about this, and what if it happens like
it did a couple of years ago when uh uh oh,
you know, they take the corner from Alabama, Denver takes
the corner from Alabama. Then JC goes to Carolina and
that the corners you've been talking about are gone.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
What if the receivers have got to be interesting? We'll see,
I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
And then you trade down for Micah Parsons.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Gotta have somebody want to trade up.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
And this draft is not especially not filled with special players.
And we don't know if guys are going to trade up.
And again, once you try to trade back, are you
gonna get the value?
Speaker 7 (40:53):
And you I mean, you talk about the Cowboys on offense, obviously,
thirty three touchdowns last year. They were the second worst
team in the red zone to the Giants. But don't
overlook the fact that only Carolina allowed more points. So
they're bad on They were bad on both sides of
the ball. When you look at all the numbers and
break it all down, like you know, red zone, home records,
(41:13):
point differential, it's amazing. They even considered bringing Mike McCarthy back.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Did you say they were home wreckers home wreck or
did the wreckers they were home rerecords?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Nobody was happy and home. They wasn't happy home last year.
It was a home wrecker.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
A home record they got, they.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Got, but serious they got.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Needs the cornerback, they got, need to running back and
needs the receiver as a tackle.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
They still need help there. Let's say linebacker. Let's end this,
let's in it. Thank you, home rerecord, thank you. That's
what they You called the Cowboys home wreckers.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
You called them home wreckers.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
The second question from now on at all Press confers,
that's the second question.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
We got murder Joy Chris By, Producers, Jazz, Josh, everybody
part of this. Thank you so much for watching media
action on dask Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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