Mick Shots: Yes Danny Yes

While Bill and Mickey dive into Bill’s “Big Green Notebook” dealing with the upcoming draft, they also dive into another book: "Danny White Spotlights and Shadows,” the former Cowboys quarterback joining the show to talk about his new book dealing not only with his career but with his family life in a joint effort with his daughter Heather.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Mick Shots streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys APT now Here are Bill Jones,
Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well two out of three ain't bad. No Everson Walls today,
but we will be joined in just a little bit
by someone from his era, the great Danny White on
this edition of mix Shots. As we are now less
than three weeks, in fact, two and a half weeks
away from NFL Draft Day, and Mickey, you would not
leave how much I have filled up my big green

(00:49):
NFL Draft scouting notebook in the last week. There's all
sorts of scribbles all over this book right now.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
So do you have like five pages of potential backup core?

Speaker 5 (01:02):
That's where I started, That's at the very beginning.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
In fact, I've been pages are coming out on the notebook.
I've been perusing these backup quarterback prospects.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, but wait a second, I thought the Cowboys had
their backup quarterback since the last time we convened they
acquired Joe Milton.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Did they acquire them before. Last time we talked about
him last night, I can't remember.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
It was like Tuesday or Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Well, but we did Monday.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
That's what I'm saying. We haven't talked about Joe Milton.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
I thought you said we talked.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
About No, we haven't talked about Joe Milton. By the way,
before we get into Joe Milton any White, we're going
to have him on in the second segment, and he
and his daughter, Heather, Joe have written a book called
Spotlights and Shadows, and I read it last night late
after I got home from work.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I love the book.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I can't wait to talk to him and it's it's
not there is football in it, but it's basically a
book of life lessons and I can't wait to hear
Danny talking about it.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
As a matter of fact, when I ran into him
a year ago when he was the it was the
Quarterback Award in fort Worthvy O'Brien award. He was the
I guess they bring in a form of legend, relegend

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or whatever, and he was there and his daughter was
with him, and they were talking to me about it
and they asked, they said, can we send you kind
of a pre publishing book to read and let me
know what you think and if you have any suggestions.
And so I hurried up and read it, and you know,
it was fine, and I kind of congratulated him on

(02:50):
what they did, gave him a few suggestions, and then
I had already read it, and I said, all right,
well when it comes out when we're in training camp.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Then we'll get him on.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, one thing leads to another and we get busy
doing what we do, and I never got around to
doing it, so I thought, Okay, now's a good time.
So yeah, it'll be interesting to hear why he did
it and how they did it.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Too, and really good stuff, especially for those of us
who followed the Cowboys Cowboys fans back in the seventies
and eighties and have had a ton of respect for
Danny White over the years.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
All Right, speaking of quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Okay, so we jump right in on Joe Milton.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
What do you make of the acquisition of Joe Milton,
a Cowboys roster that of course has Dak Prescott. It's
out there on the practice field in the rehab group
throughout this offseason and looks good. And you got Will
Greer who was acquired reacquired late season, and now you
add Joe Milton to the mix.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
So here's the way I look at it. The Cowboys
were going to use, or at least we were projecting
that they would use a third day draft choice on
a young quarterback that they could groom to potentially be
a backup of the future, sort of in the vein

(04:14):
of when they drafted Dak Prescott in twenty sixteen. Their
idea was, Okay, we're going to use our second fourth
round pick on maybe the backup of the future, not immediately,
but the backup of the future to Tony Romo. And
so basically what they did this year was, instead of

(04:36):
using a fifth, sixth, or seventh round pick on a quarterback,
they used the fifth to trade for Joe Milton, the third,
a former sixth round pick of the Patriots. And so
that's what they That's how they drafted their quarterback with
a year of experience. Now I thought everybody needed to

(05:00):
ap breaks a little bit, because immediately the Cowboys have
acquired their backup quarterback for this season. I don't think
they look at it that way necessarily.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Right, he can come in and compete for it.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
He can compete for it.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
He's got to compete with Will Greer, so he could
compete for the backup job.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
He could be competing.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
For the third quarterback position on the roster. And I
was told this does not preclude them signing a veteran
quarterback who's out there.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I think it's likely right they will, and I don't
in as far, I don't think it changes anything as
far as the acquisition of a quarterback, whether it's in
the draft and or free agency. The Patriots gave him away,
right basically. I mean, that's what I don't understand about it,

(05:57):
especially with the potential that Joe Milton showed in the
one game that he did play, which was against a
lot of Bills backups in the last week of the
regular season because the Bills did not need to win
that game. I went back and watch the game Drake
May played the first series. It was very, very cold,
it appeared that day when they played Buffalo.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
So the Bills were less than enthused to play.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
There, and they were protecting players because everything was locked
up for them as far as the division and their
seating goes. And he looked in Milton, you've seen the stats.
He looked good. Okay. The issue with Joe Milton is
that he when you look at his stats going back
to college, over the last seven years, he has not

(06:46):
played a lot of football. This is going back to
his first year at Michigan in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
I mean he familiar.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, it's he has literally thrown over the last seven
years out one hundred and fifty two hundred more passes
in games than what Trey Lance has the last seven years.
And so that's I agree, tap the brakes on that now.
I think it's a great move for the Cowboys to
bring him in, but I just I'm just scratching my

(07:16):
head with the Patriots. This is a guy with three
years left on a contract that pays him nothing a
million dollars a year, not.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Even I think what he's costing the Cowboys base salary
is nine hundred and sixty ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
You're giving him up to move up forty six spots
on the last half of the third day of the draft.
You're giving him up to move up from number two
seventeen to one seventy one because they they're getting the
Cowboys are getting the Patriots' first seventh round pick as well.
As and the Cowboys are giving up a fifth You're

(07:53):
they're moving the Cowboys are moving down forty six spots
and get Joe Milton. Yes, well that's a no brain,
but it doesn't change anything else. In fact, I would
take it a step further on this draft, and I
think that the only way that the Cowboys would take
a quarterback in the top one hundred picks is if
they trade down and pick up an extra pick, like

(08:16):
trade down in the first round and pick up at
least I'm saying you could if you really like a
quarterback who's still there even in the second or third round,
if you really like him, okay, and you think he
can be an eventual starter four years from now for
you and in the meantime back up Dak Prescott, you

(08:38):
can do that if you acquire another top one hundred pick, right,
And that's the only scenario I can think of that
the Cowboys would would pull the trigger on something like that,
and they would really have to like that quarterback. But
they're still in the market definitely for a third day
quarterback regardless, and without a fourth round pick, that would

(08:59):
be fifth round, sixth round, whatever. But that's no knock
on Joe Milton. I mean the Patriots were giving him away.
And what the Patriots did. They have Drake May obviously,
but they signed Joshua Dobbs, who has a history with
Mike Vrabel at Tennessee and he might, you know, Joshua

(09:21):
Dobbs might be the brightest person in the league.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
He's a rocket scientist.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So he was going to be their backup quarterback. But
the problem with Joe Milton is he does not have
enough snaps. He has not played enough football for him
to say, if Dak Prescott got hurt the first.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Game of the season, Joe Milton's going.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
To be be able to go in there with that
limited experience and do what Cooper Rush did.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
You caught lightning in a bottle with Dak that same scenario,
because that was not the plan.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
But Dak had so much more experience in college. Joe
Milton starting starting experience in college at Mississippi State. I mean,
he got Mississippi State all the way to number one
in the country playing in the SEC. Joe Milton spent
three years at Michigan as a backup, two years at
Tennessee as a backup, and finally, in his sixty year

(10:15):
of college, got on the field and look decent enough
to be a sixth round draft pick.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
So that was my point, because if I had heard
it one more time or seen it written, the Cowboys
just traded for their backup quarterback. No, they traded for
a candidate to possibly become because, as Bill said, the
day tomorrow Dack's out, you're going to put this guy
in there with one game of NFL experience and say, okay,

(10:43):
save the season.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
And having said all of that, Joe Milton might come
in here next week when they start off season, brokouts
and hit the ground running. And there's no quote he
could pull a Dak Prescott and be the backup quarterback
without and when over whoever else they bring in here,
and the Cowboys hope that happens. But there's a reason

(11:08):
that the Patriots gave up on him after one year,
with where they could have had him as a backup
to Drake May for the next three years, and the
fact that no other team in the league. Now apparently
the Patriots are saying that they did Milton a solid
and send him to a place that he wanted to
go and had better offers on the table. But even yeah,

(11:30):
I rolled my eyes at that too. But clearly the
market was not great for Joe Milton looking at what
the Patriots got back for.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
You know, it was funny because when this happened, I
made a list, like I think it was maybe on
Thursday of veteran quarterback that are backup types.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
That were available still in free agency.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
By Friday afternoon, I had to scratch two of them
off the list already because the Chargers ended up signing
Trey Lance to a one year deal.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
How about that? Up to six point two million?

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Okay? How about that? How about this? What would the
reaction have been? Okay?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
You you talked about the reaction by the Cowboys trade
Joe Milton. Yeah, okay, and there's excitement, Okay, what would
the reaction have been from most of the fans out
there if the Cowboys had re signed Tree Lance?

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Right? Oh? What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Right?

Speaker 6 (12:31):
And a lot of that already wasted six million dollars.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
And a lot of that has to do with the
fact that Trey Lance was the third pick in the
draft and is considered a draft bust and this guy
and Joe Milton is a sixth rounder. And but if
you look at their resumes, there's no In fact, the game,
the one game that both of them played last year,
in the final game of the regular season, it is

(12:56):
very similar what both of them did statistically in that
in those games against playoff boundte right exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
So I had to I scratched Trey lance Off. I
had to sketch scratch off case Keenum because he ended
up signing. So my list ended up with Josh Johnson,
c J. Bethard Ian Book, Desmond Ritter, Joe Flacco, Easton Stick,

(13:27):
Carson Wentz.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
And my favorite one true.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Locke And we're talking a guy that was very successful
in college. Uh, never really got a clear shot at
a chance to start in the NFL, not with Denver,
not with Seattle. He was the backup what last year
in with the Giants, believe, and he's available. And I

(13:51):
think what the Cowboys are doing with this kind of
list of veteran backups is they're waiting for the price to.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Come down, or they're also or they're waiting for after the.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Draft, right and see what they can do in the draft.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And say what they can do in the draft. The
other thing that happens after the draft, and the same
thing happened with the Zeke Elliot signing last year. Then
you sign an unrestricted free agent and it doesn't count
against your compensatory picks for the following year exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
And these guys who are probably looking for the best
deal available will wake up on May first and go, huh,
many camps are starting and I don't have a job,
so I better sign somewhere.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'll throw another name out there. I don't know if
you mentioned CJ. Bethard, Yes, I did, okay, And Bethard
has a history with Shot with Shottheimer, and he could
be a veteran guy that comes in here and that
would be competition.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Here's a guy who has started games in the league,
and then we see how it pans out throughout the
offseason and training camp.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Now and then there were I heard and then the
people that, you know, whatever the Cowboys do, there's going
to be a negative reaction like they don't know what
they're doing. So this is well, this is the same
thing with Trey Lance. They brought Trey Lance in Da DA.
This guy has has an advantage because he's going to

(15:18):
be here for the off season for the OTAs. He's
going to be here for training camp, and he's going
to be here for preseason games. If you remember, Trey
Lance got here the week before the season started and
had none of that pre experience with the team, with

(15:38):
the offense, with the offensive system.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
So at least this.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Guy doesn't have one hand tied behind his back learning
things in the off season.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
All right, very good. Now, what time was we're gonna
hear from Danny?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Well you're hoping that about eleven twenty, okay, all right,
so take a break here.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Four minutes away.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Anything else on your legal pad that you would like
to get to. And again, the Cowboys are other teams
in the league. If you have changed head coaches this year,
today is the day you can start off season voluntary
off season workouts.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Teams like the.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Bears, Patriots, a couple of other teams a believer starting today.
Cowboys are not starting that until next month.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Right The Jets are in there two and one of
whenever they end up starting.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
So it looks like the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
So right now, if guys come in and want to
rehab or do some strength and conditioning, they can do
it with the strength and conditioning coaches.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
But the regular coaches.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Can't have meetings or anything like that can make a
phone call.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think it seems like even though the Cowboys aren't
starting THEIRS until next week, they officially starting it until
next week, that the coaches should be able to have
interactions starting today even though they weren't on the list,
because they do have a new head coach, right, Yeah,
And I'm not sure we need to check into how

(17:08):
that works. Are the Cowboys then extending into June an
extra week in June their voluntary program and that's why
they're not starting a week early.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
I know.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
The other thing that's happening behind the scenes here at
the Star this week, I assume it is happening, is
there's a lot of draft meetings going on. Yeah, and
because we're now two and a half weeks out from
that draft.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
And they had I want to say three three days
worth of thirty visits last week.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
That was a big week, and especially the end of
the week and on bleeding on into Saturday of guys
coming in here in dallasdowna also.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
And there were some significant names that are being reported
that came in for those visits. So yeah, they were
pretty and they were busy on Saturday too. By the way,
with more visits taking place.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
And with the Cowboys looking for a veteran backup quarterback,
maybe we'll ask Danny White if he has some interest.

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Speaker 3 (21:10):
And we'll be joined by Danny White, former Cowboys great
here in just a moment. He's got a book out
he wrote with his daughter, Heather Joe Kennedy, and the name.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Is Spotlights and Shadows.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And so we'll be joined by Danny here in just
a moment. Anything on your legal pad there, Mickey, you
want to get to before that?

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Well, I had some names that.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Reportedly since the Cowboys don't confirm visits that came in
for either the thirty visits or coming in or have
come in for Dallas Day when they bring guys in,
and interesting that I see a bunch of running backs.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
We're going to come in for visits.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Some of these guys are local guys like Ashton Genti.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Damian Martinez is another local guy.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Collie Gordon Ye another local running back, and one of
my favorite guys Ohio State running back Quincheon Judkins. I
think that this guy's got something. And I think when
people ask me what position do you think they'll draft,
and I said, they've got so many choices between running back,

(22:33):
wide receiver, defensive end, cornerback that I think you look
at the draft and say, okay, which of those positions
has the least amount of depth in the draft, Because
if I can get somebody that I need in the
second round, then in the first round, unless this guy's

(22:54):
just got the blinking light, I'll take the position that
has the least amount of depth. Because I probably can't
get a good one in the second round.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Okay, Well, we started the show talking about the quarterback
situation with this team, and of course Dak Prescott on
the roster, Will Greer on the roster, Joe Milton acquired
Nicky Spagnola. I'm thinking the Cowboys need a veteran backup
quarterback on this team, right. I think I would go
to Arizona State University to acquire this backup quarterback. Let's

(23:29):
see if there's anything left in the tank. As the
Great Danny White joins us on mix shots, Danny, you
got Bill Jones and Mickey here. We appreciate for some reason,
Everson didn't show up today for this podcast, but you'll
take Everson spot here, Danny.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Great to hear from it.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Hey, I'm good. How you guys doing, Bill, Nicky, good
to be with you.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Great to have you with us, Danny, And you got
anything left in the tank about how about it?

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Come on? Come out of retirement here you go.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
The mind is willing, but the body is weak. Something
like that, something something something like that. You know what.
It's a funny feeling because in my really, in my mind,
I'm I'm twenty five years old, and I go out
and I think I can still throw the ball, and

(24:20):
it just doesn't happen. I don't know, I don't know
what happened.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Well, I'll tell you a funny thing happened. I think
it was yesterday.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I had gone skiing, and I had a beard for
the last month, and only one or two people noticed
that I shaved it on Friday, right And I said
something to my wife and she goes, oh, yeah, you
shaved it. And I'm going huh, and she goes, why'd.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
You do it?

Speaker 4 (24:49):
I said it was starting to make me look old,
and she goes, you are old.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
It's like, okay, thanks a lot, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh funny, how that works?

Speaker 5 (25:00):
All right? Well, Danny, let me tell you this.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I worked at CBS eleven yesterday and I worked late.
I had a show at ten thirty at night. I
get home last night close to midnight. I picked up
a book that Mickey gave me called Danny White, Spotlights
and Shadows with daughter HJ.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Kennedy. Right here. I was up to two o'clock.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
This morning reading your book. And I absolutely love this book.
I read it back from front cover to back cover. Now,
I didn't have to skip through because I needed to
go to bed at some point. I had to skip
through some of it. But I just absolutely love this book.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Danny.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, thank you, Bill. I appreciate it. It was a
lot of fun. I never I swore I would never
write a book, because it's just to me, writing a
book is just being presumptuous, you know, like I got
to say, and you need to hear it. And and
you know, but my kids, especially my daughter Heather, she

(26:07):
they talked me into it is mostly for her. She's
a certified life coach and she's written a book of
her own now and uh so and and they just
convinced me that, you know, I've lived kind of a
charmed life. I've had a lot of things go my
way and had some opportunities that most people don't get
to have and and would love to have, you know,

(26:31):
to be the quarterback of America's team and what and
and maybe there's some things that I ow to share.
And the stories started coming back, you know, and and
uh some of that stuff about coach Landry and and
coach Cush in college were we're just priceless and they've

(26:52):
all they've all got a real moral to them. Uh,
And that's what I was trying to do, was was
make it somehow make it apply to everyday life so
people could get something out of it. And that's what
I was hoping. I didn't want to write a sports book.

(27:12):
I wanted to write a self help or a motivational
book at least a little bit. And that's why all
the poetry and all that stuff. But I loved ended up.
When it was done, I was so glad I did it,
and so I hope people enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, Danny that I was going to ask you that
that was the unique thing about this book because normally
when former players write a book, it's memory of this
game and this game and this story and all that
kind of stuff. But yours was more in depth about
kind of emotional feelings you had about playing, Heather's thoughts

(27:53):
on growing up with a celebrity dad and what that
was like.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
A celebrity dad who didn't ever want to be a celebrity,
right exactly.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
And thus, thank you, thank you, thus.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
The title of the book, right, And it was so
unique and and and you gave us some more of
the background kind of feelings you had about doing this job.
But being able to juggle raising a family at the
same time.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, it's about it's about priorities, mickey, you know, and
I think, and I hope, I hope. If nothing else,
the one thing people get out of it is that,
you know, we we all develop talents and have gifts,
and some are permanent and some are temporary, and unfortunately,
most of us spend a large amount of time most

(28:48):
of our life developing temporary talents. And by that I
mean stuff things you can't take with you, things that
are you know, I learned two skills in my life,
throwing a football and playing the piano. Well, thanks to
my mom, I spent eight years learning taking formal piano lessons.
I don't throw footballs anymore, you know, but I played

(29:11):
the piano every day and it's brought me so much
enjoyment and relaxation and all that and and so it's
it's it's developing things that are going to be around
your entire life and even beyond your life, you know, family, friends, faith.

(29:33):
Those are the things that I hope people got out
of it, That to me, at least, are the most
important things we can we can develop in our lives.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
All right, let's talk about playing the piano, yes, and
how it affected your football career, you know, and for
most of us, Okay, I know myself. We had a
piano and I never my parents never made me take
piano lessons, but the piano sitting there, and I would
get on it occasionally and bang on it. And now,

(30:03):
after reading your book, I'm sitting there going And I
had a great friend growing up who could play the piano,
and then I was envious of him once we got
into high school in college because all the girls flocked
to him because at parties he could play the piano.
But you told a great story in here, how the

(30:23):
piano lessons and the discipline of every single day a
half hour on the piano, how it affected you as
a football player.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah. That And never had any clue, nor did my
mom that I was developing skills that would help me
as a as a quarterback. But the discipline of practicing
every day, her coming out and getting me off the
street a few times and dragging me in by the
here and slamming me down practiced the piano. But not

(30:57):
only that, but then you know, I got to the cowboy,
said Bob Ward sat me down in front of a
computer and said, take this test, and they started flashing
right hand, left foot, and I had these paddles and
I had to hit them and see how many you
can do in thirty seconds. And when I got done,
he just was standing there with his mouth open. He said,
do you happen to play the piano? And I said, well, yeah,

(31:20):
I do. What's that got to do with this? He said, well,
you look at notes on a page. Your eyes send
a message to your brain. Your brain sends a message
to your body, and you do what you see. And
the faster you can make that process work, the better
piano player you are. And I could just tell by
the way you take this now. So well, what's that

(31:40):
got to do with football? And he said, well, what
do you do as a quarterback? You look down the field,
you see an open receiver. Your eyes send a message
to your brain, Your brain sends a message to your body,
and you react to what you see. And the faster
you can do that, the quicker you can get the
ball to that receiver before the defense we had, the
better quarterback you are, you know, And man, I just

(32:03):
I never ever dreamed. Almost hours of knocking the ivory
off of those keys was going to actually, but anybody
that plays the piano will tell you that it is
so true. You have to anticipate and you and and
the quicker you can react to what you see, the

(32:25):
better you are both. And uh yeah, that's one of
the stories in the book. And uh it's it's it's
so true.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
You know, the Cowboys are looking for a quarterback in
this draft, maybe maybe a drafted quarterback. I'm thinking Jerry
Jones is going to hear this and he's that's a
question now that's going to be asked to the quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, yeah, and Bob said that to me. He said,
you know, I found that players who play a musical
instrument make better athletes. And you know, of course Bob
Ward was a deep thinker and he he went for
stuff like that. But you know, if they have a
piano in the quarterback room, I'm available.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
There you go. All right.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
So I thought I knew you awfully well.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
We spent a lot of time, especially these last what
ten fifteen years when you were doing the Compass broadcast
for the Cowboys radio broadcast, So I didn't know about
the piano playing, and I think I'd forgotten how good
a baseball player you were, and how did you make
that decision between Okay, I'm going to baseball or I'm

(33:36):
going to football.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Before you answer that question, let me for those who
aren't aware of how strong a baseball program Bobby Winkles
had at Arizona State. Here are a few of the
names that came out of the Arizona State baseball program
in the sixties and seventies. Sal Bando, Rick Monday, Reggie Jackson,
Larry Gurra, Randall went to Arizona State. I didn't realize

(34:02):
that Eddie Bain was.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Like football scholarship, did he really?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
And uh and and then it was probably after and
shortly after your time. Floyd Banister was there, Kenny Landrou
Bob Horner uh played there as well. I mean that
was a baseball factory. So now answer Mickey's question.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well, it's it's funny because yeah, I mean, baseball was
my my love growing up. Uh. And I got to
a s U and Bobby Winkles recruited me, and then
he left my freshman year and Jim Brock came in
and and a lot of things changed. I mean I
grew up going to all those baseball games and watching

(34:45):
them sprint from the from home played to the dugout
when they struck out, and sprint to first base if
they walked, and you know, it was just so much
fun watching those guys work the way they did, and
and that was that was part of the draw. But
my baseball career just just kind of took a nosedive.
In my football career. I went from being one of

(35:08):
five freshman quarterbacks playing one year of quarterback in high
school and going there as a punter and a defensive
back to becoming the starting quarterback my sophomore year. And
that is a long way to go in a short
period of time. And it was because of guys graduating, quitting, transferring,

(35:30):
and really Frank Cush was stuck with me and we
had a great team and all I had and he
told me before the first game is now white. All
you got to do is get the ball from the
center and give it to one of our guys without
dropping it, and we'll be fine. And that was his
pep talk, you know, And I kind of made a
career out of that, whether it was Woody Green and

(35:52):
Benny Malone and Steve Holden or Tony Dorsett and Herschel
Walker and Drew Pearson, and you know, I just always
was surrounded by great talent, and so my football career
just took off. We won the first three Fiesta Bowls.
We led the nation in scoring and offense. And so
my senior year I didn't even play baseball. I tell

(36:15):
the story in the book about striking out to make
the last out of the College World Series. That's a
story not many people know about until now, and but
that was the last time I played baseball.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
If you would have if they would have let you hit,
then you wouldn't have struck.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Out though, if it would have let me swing at
And I was one of those guys that did everything
the coach. You know, there are times, and I learned
this kind of the hard way, when you as a
quarterback or as an athlete, you have to do what
you feel and not what the coach tells you to do.

(36:55):
And that was one of those times. The last play
of the forty nine er game Championship game after the
catch was another one of those times when I always
had done what I felt instead of what coach Landry
told me to do. So there are times like that
when you just got to go with with your feel
and that that was one of those times that I

(37:16):
had a two and o count and a fastball was coming,
and I could hit any fastball. Nolan Ryan couldn't throw
one by me, but I couldn't. If it broke a
quarter of an inch, I couldn't hit it.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
That's why you became a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's why I became a quarterback. I'd still be riding
around on a bus in West Texas playing minor league
baseball if I hadn't been for that. I could hit
a curveball, but uh yeah, the next two pitches were curves.
And that was the end of my baseball career.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
You know.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
You you mentioned.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Things about how things you were fortunate, how things fell
for you, and I thought, the interesting thing, and I
think this is indicative of some of the story, as
you told in the book, is how you met your wife,
the mother of your children, and how important family became
to you. And I thought, maybe you can tell the

(38:13):
story of of when you first met her.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Are you talking about our first day? Yes, yeah, we
had just met. They just moved into town from Canada,
and and I'll tell this pretty quickly, but it was
homecoming and I asked her to go to homecoming with me,
and we we didn't even know each other hardly, and

(38:37):
she was not a big football fan. And I got
kicked in the head by one of my own players
early in the game, and I was out, I mean
I was out, and concussion and and all that went home.
I'm sitting on it in front of the TV, watching
watching television. Mom walks in and says, Danny, didn't you
have a date with that new girl tonight? And I said, Mom,

(39:01):
I don't remember anything. So she said, well, I better
call him, And so she and joe Lyne had been
sitting there in her dress and all made up. She
didn't go the game. She didn't know what happened. And
now it's like eleven o'clock at night. And anyway, my
dad ended up driving me over and picking her because

(39:22):
I couldn't drive with Mike with a concussion. Picked her
up and we went down to Bob's Big Boy on
Main Street in Mates and went in and I bought
he of Hamburger, and my dad sat in the car
and waited for us, and we went back out. He
took us home and that was our first day. The
next day, I didn't remember a thing about it, and that.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Led to forty six years of marriage.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I must have done something right, I say, And how
many kids? Four? Four kids? Sixteen grandkids? And then and
then I just got remarried. She passed away six years
ago from brain cancer. And then and then I remarried
two years ago. And Linda has fifteen grandkids, so we

(40:08):
have thirty one between us and nine kids, and life
kind of started all over again.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
You have lost.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Those are the kind of things. Those are the kind
of things I'm talking about that are that are really
really important to me anyway. And my football career is
kind of just a blur now.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
And the poetry part too, right.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh, I loved. I loved because that was how I
trained my brain for Landry's game plans. You know, we'd
get a game plan on Tuesday night and had to
have it memorized Wednesday for offensive day, and he would
change things up every week. He'd never run the same
play from the same formation two weeks in a row,
so we had to be able to memorize. And and

(40:54):
that was back before players had receivers in their helmet
and that you know, the to just talk to him
and call the play. That's probably the biggest thing that's
changed in the game since I played, at least the
quarterback position is being able to talk to the quarterback well,
so we have signals and we had to memorize all
that stuff. So I would train my brain by memorizing

(41:17):
poetry and I some of those not only were they
great to memorize, but they were inspirational as well.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
You know, Uh, just reading reading the book, and uh,
I love how transparent both you and Heather Joe are
about the tragedies that have happened in your life.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
You mentioned, uh, Joe Lynn's brain cancer, and.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I think for a lot of people it will help
them who are dealing with with things like that. I've
got a good friend it just was diagnosed, and you know,
uh that sort of thing. This book. I bring that
up to say that this this book goes far beyond football.
They're so many life lessons and one of the things

(42:01):
I love. I've three daughters coached him in basketball. Heather
Joe told a story on page one, twenty six. She said,
my parents are my biggest ride and die. I was
playing in a basketball game one time when I stole
the ball headed for a fast break as my defender turned,
I caught her foot on mine and took a good dive,

(42:23):
cracking my head loud on the hardwood. The referees didn't
stop the game, didn't even blow a whistle. Instead of
attending to me, they were focused on the game. So
in the middle of the game, my dad stormed the court.
Words were exchanged, and he was asked to exit the gym.
Your biggest fans should be concerned about one thing, you.

(42:45):
I guess I should have said there was an attempt
to throw him out of the game.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
They weren't successful, exactly right, Bill. I told them. I
told them they better go get the Arizona National Guard
if they think they're going to give me that, because
I was sitting right behind him other she was on
the bench, and I mean, if you could have heard that,
the echo of her head getting the floor, I just

(43:09):
I freaked out, you know, and I did. I just
ran straight out into the middle of the game. And
I don't wonder you guys doing stop the game. And they, yeah,
they they tried to kick me out, but they didn't.
I didn't. Budge wasn't about.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
She said, they let you stay in the gym.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I was fine by the way our trainer took care
of me while dad and the ref were facing off.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
That made me feel better about my antics as a
youth basketball coach.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
In the reference, parents can be the worst, can't they?
Or the best?

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Again, it's a great example of there's stuff for parents
in here too.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
I love this, I was gonna say, and me too.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Trying to help coach junior high fast pits girls software
and I to get thrown out of a game one time.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Well, I tried to help Joe Germaine here coach high school.
I got. I got thrown out of two games. I
had to go sit up in the booth and coach
from the boot because I just couldn't handle the officiated
high school officiating. Just oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Well, and so now in your retirement life, are you
keeping just as busy as you ever were?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
No? I hope not.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Well, you got how many grandchildren?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Thirty one?

Speaker 3 (44:41):
There's got to be tons of games you have to
get to, right every Saturday.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Saturday Saturday is I mean, Linda goes one way and
I go the other way, and we divide and conquer
and try to get it done. But yeah, I'm then
Sunday afternoon dinners and and uh, there's a lot of
stuff going on. But you know what, I went for
a number of years by myself, and fortunately I had

(45:09):
my kids, you know, around me. But I'm not one
of those guys. Some guys can live by themselves. I'm
not one of them. So I'll take it. I'll I'll
take of being busy any day over just having nothing

(45:29):
to do.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
And grandparenting.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
You know the importance of the parents and the grandparents
being at the games because you lived it with your
great parents that you had.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
Well, do you have a roster on your refrigerator? What
everybody's name?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
All the grandkids have it in my phone? Yeah, not
on the fridge. I can't carry that fridge around in
the car with me. I gotta have it with me
at all times. But you know, I just personally, I
think it's one of the real problems in our society
and our culture today is just parents. Either they're not

(46:06):
there at all, or they're too soft, or you know,
I've got an answer for everything, and that's that's one
of my answers, is parenting. Good parenting will solve a
lot of problems.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Well, I think people need to be able to read
your book. So it's Danny White Spotlight and Shadows.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
And you can go to.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Amazon dot com and you can get a copy on Kindle.
You can get a hardcover copy or a paper back copy.
And I suggest that if you're interested in a career.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
That Danny White made for himself.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
And the family he raised and how he was raised
by a very strict father, I think you would enjoy
this book.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
And and Vicky also they if they want to sign
the copy, if they go to my website Danny White
dot com, they can get U We'll sign one and
send it to them.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
Oh very nice, Well, very good.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I'm going to read it again. I just I was
able to. Like I said, go slow down. I can
slow down and take it all in.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
I mean, I'm sitting before I go to bed to
night after the National Championship game tonight, I'll read Danny
White Spotlights and Shadows once again.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
And while well, I'm impressed. Bill, you're one of those
guys that can read with one eye closed. I guess
that's great.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
And by the way, kudos to Heather too. I thought
her insight in the book was invaluable. She's She's spot
on with her memories and how that affected the relationship.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
You had with your daughter, how it affected her life.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I am just a little bit proud of her.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
I could imagine.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Well, Danny, we appreciate it and hope to see you
soon and hopefully this Cowboys team can win some games
for you.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Well, thanks for having me on, guys, Let's do it
again sometime. I'd love to.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Absolutely this was a fun trip down memory lane, especially
your memory lane.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
It was what's left of it.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah, the great Danny White here on mix Shots. Thanks
Danny again. The book is Spotlights and Shadows with his
daughter Heather Joe Kennedy. Thanks Danny and mix Shots continues
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Speaker 3 (51:14):
All Right, final segment here mixed shots, got nine minutes left.
Great to have Danny White on and I'm serious, that's
make sure you've especially you're Danny White fan going back
to when he was playing for the Cowboys. I think
this book is well worth it. It gives you an
insight into Danny the person and his family, and there

(51:38):
are a lot of life lessons in that.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Book, and he had and he was right, He had
a lot of fortunate things happen for him to end
up being. You know, the Cowboys started off as the
punter right after he started his career at WFL World
Football League with the Memphis.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
The show Memphis Southmans.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah, it was a weird name. Anyway, two years there
the league folded. The Cowboys had taken and they knew
he'd signed a personal services contract with the Southmen, and
the Cowboys took a third year, a third round flyer
on him, thinking that the WFL would eventually fold, which

(52:27):
it did, and in seventy six he came to the Cowboys.
And how fortunate was he by landing with the Cowboys
and as the backup quarterback that year they had traded
away Craig Morton and Clint Longley was the backup gets

(52:51):
in the infamous fight in the locker room with Roger Staubach,
he leaves, the Cowboys get rid of him, and suddenly
he's the backup quarterback in nineteen seventy six, and the
punter too, by the.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Way, that's right, all right.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
In our final few minutes some things to talk about.
Of course, the annual NFL Annual meetings happened last week
since we got together. They were in the middle of
the meetings when.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
We write it.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
That's right last Monday.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
The rules were they've tabled the tush push till May.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I think they're going to be able to word that
where we're not going to see the tush push done
the way.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Well what they need to do, and this was a
simple fight.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
My thought was, you just go back to the rule
that was in the NFL through two thousand and four
that there was no pushing players from behind, and that
that encompasses the running back going up the middle and
five offensive linemen getting behind him and all of a

(54:03):
sudden it keeps going, going and going. That's where it's dangerous.
Somebody's gonna get hurt doing that, and that would include
the tush push. So it's not like I'm outlawing one
team's play and.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
The Eagles or anyone else they can line up like
they they've done the tush push. You just can't put
someone behind the quarterback pushing them right exactly. All you
have to do to change the rule, and whether it's
a quarterback or any other spot on the field. You
can't push a player forward.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
And I think that's what and even Roger Goodell pointed
that out. He brought up the other pushes that go
on because the defense can't get pushed.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
And it doesn't even have to be a penalty.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
What you can do is it's almost like forward progress.
A guy dash is from behind, that's that's where that's
where it's marked. That play's over, that's where it's run
the next down from.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
And the other rule changes they did, I'm all for,
why would you have one rule for overtime in the
playoffs and not have it during the regular season where
each team gets a possession.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
So that passed.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
The touchbacks out to the thirty five yards which will
help be significant.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Yes, And then and then giving more jurisdiction to the
video replay assist from the official up in the booth
that all he has to do is see something's wrong
and buzz down and say, hey, fix this.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
It doesn't have to be challenged. We don't need a replay.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
You either missed the call or you got the call wrong.
And they expanded what that guy can do up in
the in the coach in the basically the replay booth.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
All Right, as I mentioned off the top of the show,
I've been I've been able to really aren't filling up
my big green notebook looking at these prospects. And I
actually love this time in my process because there's a
certain I've got so many other things I have to
do it. I'm not like the Brian Brodis's and Dame

(56:14):
Bruglers of the world, who can go ahead and do
it a lot of bills like yemens and all that,
and so now's the time, and this is when I
get really interested. And so I just if I'm not
staying up late reading Danny White's book, I'm staying.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Up late looking at draft prospects.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
And just like on Friday afternoon, I'm going through these
wide receivers, and I'm not going through the top wrong
wide receivers. I'm Okay, what options do the Cowboys have
in the mid rounds with wide receivers? And you have
to know this stuff to know whether you have to
take that Tep McMillan in the first round or Matthew
Golden in the first round. Well, can you fill another

(56:52):
position there? If every if all things being equal, if
you're choosing between a wide receiver or a corner back
or line back or whatever it might be. You got
to know how deep the positions are throughout the draft.
And so I'm going through on one page here, I
got four wide receivers that are probably projected to be

(57:13):
anywhere from third to fifth round picks. I'm going I
like that guy. Oh, I like that guy. I mean,
there's a bunch of guys that now can they And
I'm looking at guys who can eventually be number two receivers. Obviously,
if you're looking for someone who can be a CD Lamb,
it's probably going to be a first round pick. Now,

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there are occasions Pookin Nakua, who was a fifth round
pick and it's now the number one receiver along with
DeVante Adams with the rams he had, Amen Ross Saint
Brown who was a fourth round pick for the Lions
who emerged as a top rung receiver, Stefan Diggs going
back further, and so you can find guys like that.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Just percentages aren't with right right.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
But you can find good quality receivers in the third
the fifth rounds, and the same goes for other positions.
I mean, this draft you've got a bunch of defensive linemen.
You've got a bunch of edge rushers that can be contributors.
And really, the way I look at it is, I'm
looking at guys not so much for this year, although

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you want them to contribute their rookie year when you're
talking about mid round guys, but who are guys that
can eventually be a starter in this league. They can
fill a role right now and then like what the
Cowboys did four years ago getting OsO, Digga Zua and
Chauncey Golston. And Osa came on quicker than Golston did,
but we saw what Golston was able to do this

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last year. There are a bunch of players like that
that you can get on the defensive line in the
third round.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
And that's what.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Especially that second day, the second and third round picks.
And again, so I had asked you the question the
depth of those positions, which of those positions the Cowboys
would be interest has the least amount of depth that
you'd say you better get that guy in the first one.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Well, and then where's yeah, where's the drop off?

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Right? And and see you look at the running back
position and it's a deep draft of good running backs. Okay,
now it's going to be interesting to see how quickly
they start coming off the board because it's a deep
draft of good running backs, right.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
However, I'm thinking that some of those running backs are
so good that teams are going to think, well, I
don't want to wait all the way to the fourth round.
I got to get my guy in the second or
third round otherwise, because we love these guys so much.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Thanks to Saquon Barkley, by the way, well now showing
how important the running back can be, yep.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
And wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
They might wait on wide receivers because you have of
those top one hundred type players or to say, top
fifth d type players you probably for the first time
have in a while. You've got more running backs than
wide receivers. Probably that or at least that many that
fit into that mix.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Where do cornerbacks fit in?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
You know, I haven't I haven't dug deep enough into
the depth of the cornerbacks yet, but I mean there
are good cornerbacks and one that the Cowboys need to
really consider in the first round. Who you looked at
down in Austin, John A. Barn and what I like
about him? As much as anything beyond what I see
on film. He checks all the boxes as far as

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being a quality, high character, smart player who is a
barring injury, I think is going to have a long career.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
And the thing that stood out to me most just
listening to his interview afterwards was his confidence.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
This is a confident.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Guy and if your cornerback, you better have that because
you are going to get beat. So how do you
respond to that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
And think of the competition that he's gone up against,
especially this year in the SEC and then in the
College Football Playoff. Not only this year but also last year.
He went up against those Oregon guys in the in
the National semifinal last year in Oregon had all those
good wide receivers. This year going up against Ohio State,
and so you have some real tape to look at

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against NFL quality players, and so you make a good
judgment on someone like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Beer and a lot of that position seemingly is getting
overlooked because you lose Jordan Lewis the Cowboys right now,
if they're going to start whenever, it's Doron Bland and
tell me who you know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
I know they.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Traded for a career Kyral, but this is a guy
that you know, Okay is a former high pick, but
he hasn't really bled a drop in the league so far,
and so I don't think they can sit there and
say Trayvon Diggs is going to be ready to go
for the opening of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
And I think you got to look at both Diggs
and Overshown as guys that in your own mind as
you're planning out this year, is what are you doing
at cornerback and linebackers right? Because you cannot count on
them being there the first half of that And.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I think for sure Overshown he's not going to get
back in time. He'll be on pup to start the season.
He'll be on pup to start training camp. And Trayvon Diggs,
you know we're going to see here in a in
a little bit if when they start their offseason program,
is he here rehabbing.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
I see Dak every day.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
But I do think your first round pick has to
be a guy who can step on the field and
place absolutely and start immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Picking at number twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
And the second round guy too, when we're looking at
defensive lineman also, which we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Even well it'd been in a rotation on the defensive
linefe So yeah, yeah, because I don't think just like
mcneiland last year.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
I mean, he was in a rotation last year.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
And so now if he can step up and be
a guy, right, and Sam Williams comes back as the
player they thought they were going to have until he
tore his acl and Micah Parsons which we didn't even
touch all that business.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
But even as far as the edge rushers going, I know,
we're out of time here. Even as far as the
edge rushers go, you got to keep in mind, and
this is this ups the need for edge rushers, is
that Williams is in the last year of his contract.
Dante Fowlers on a one year deal as well, and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
You know, and he may be best as a rotation guy,
not having to play.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
He had snaps a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Game, yeah, and he and that's what he's been lately.
He had a little over five hundred snaps with Washington
last year, but the year before with Dallas he was
around three hundred snaps. And that's basically what Sam Williams
has topped out in the first two years of his career.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
And even five hundred snaps, that's probably that's half of
thirty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
It's you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
You typically will get eleven hundred snaps in a season
on defense, and so that's about fifty percent of the
snaps anyway, all right, thanks to Danny White for joining
us here ever since. We'll be back next week and
we will see you again next Monday at eleven on
mix Shots.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
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